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What is up bros, I'm Jonathan and I'm Caleb and
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We're a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out there with as little bias as possible
Welcome to the all bros
This week on the podcast
Caleb literally has the floor when it comes to
Weekly watch I must forgot the name
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Because yeah, like the guy's been watching some stuff so can't wait to hear about that
Well, not really actually like there's nothing new this week. These are just ones that I've had saved for like
at least a month
Yeah, if you guys haven't noticed we've been gone for
Has it been a month already? No, it's been like three weeks
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Damn, okay
This is our longest gap period ever
Holy shit. Wow
Yeah, because
Yeah, for those of you that don't know I live on the East Coast. I got freaking hammered
by
hurricane Helene without lube and
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Yeah, so she she killed my power for
six days and
So and and luckily luckily one of those days
The first day was the day that we needed to record and I was like, yeah and so I
Couldn't record the following week because we had just gotten power back and we're still getting everything like
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Put together and whatnot and then last week we got royally screwed once again because we had so we attempted to record last week
But it didn't end up happening because we tried to switch services because StreamYard for example
Services because StreamYard frickin sold out and made their prices outrageous. Like we were paying what 25 a month?
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Yeah, sounds right. Yeah, and then they frickin bumped it bumped it up adding so little
features like if they would have added some like AI features like the ones that a lot of these other services have like
Yeah, would have made sense. Like I probably like it probably would have been a little bit easier to justify
But no they decided to add like oh now you can have rounded corners on your
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near squares and you can have like all this all this super dumb frivolous bullshit and
I'm just like and then they're like, yeah, but we're gonna like practically double the
Monthly amount and like that is horseshit by
but
One of those things we we left without a plan and we
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Attempted to use a different service last week
Paid for like the pro membership and everything and then would I was like man all these AI features are super dope
And then we attempted to record and it was like yeah
Not gonna happen like it would record us for like what like a minute maybe before it. I think so
Yeah, yeah, it was always Caleb like it was always like everything was fine on my side
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But it would keep stopping Caleb's recording. Yeah, and I don't know
Listen, this isn't to brag, but I have better hardware than Rose
No, yeah, he's absolutely right
Can I'm working off a laptop? This guy has freaking what two three monitors? I got two monitors
I do want a third, but that's besides the point
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Of course, you know, I have I have two. Yeah. Well, it's not even that it's it's my my desktop computer is just out of this world
Like art at least out of this world compared to what I've had in the past
And so and then there's me just working off of an HP laptop
yeah, but it's just like
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You would think that if if either of if any of ours were to have issues
You would think it would have been roses, but no his was working
Flawlessly and I'm like dude what the shit?
Because it kept kicking me off. I was like, what the fuck is wrong with this?
I'm going from cooler to cooler guys are like off and WINNERS
That's the point. And I was like dude. Who would what is wrong with this?
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Then get WNNs
Okay, well that's really cool. Thanks guy that's funniest. How's everybody doing tonight?
Are you excited to look at your personal
can we just get refunded?
And they're just like, well, you only get the full refund
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if you quit within the first two days.
And I'm just like, I needed to get set up
for the first two days.
So that's what I spent my time doing.
And they're like, well, too bad.
But anyway, we got refunded a majority
and now we're on a new service.
And I am just fingers crossed that this doesn't come
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and screw us in the ass.
Yeah, we will.
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see how it goes.
Fingers, fingers crossed.
So far, so good.
Yeah.
Knock on wood.
Dude, yeah.
No freaking joke.
Don't freaking jinx us like that.
My bad, my bad.
Oh, shit.
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I was like, yeah, freaking nightmare.
So I just got all this shit set up today, which luckily,
it's basically the same setup as StreamYard.
It's just a little bit different.
So anyway, we'll see how it goes.
Yeah, let's do this.
So like I said, Caleb will be talking to us
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about his weekly watch.
And then after that, we'll be jumping right
into our headliner of the evening,
which will be our breakdown of Transformers 1.
Hell yeah.
All right, let's do this.
Let's do it.
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All righty.
Oh, this is you.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I am so messed up this week.
So forgive me for all the mistakes I'm going to be making.
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Yeah, man.
But yeah, jumping into weekly watch.
Before we talk about what Caleb has watched,
I just want to point out, I don't have an excuse this week.
But all my time has been dedicated to finishing
Monster season 2.
And you know what?
Even though a lot of it is not actually factual right,
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factually right, Ryan Murphy changed a lot of things,
I still enjoyed it as much as season 1 when he did Domber.
Because have you seen any clips from it by chance?
I have not.
OK, so Nicholas Chavez.
OK, so I've added so much shit to my list lately.
It is ridiculous.
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So Nicholas Chavez, who plays Lyle Menendez,
he literally is a caricature of Lyle.
Because Lyle was never that angry as they make Lyle out
to be in this series.
But there is, and it's been memes so much,
that when they're in prison and they're trying to get dimes
so they can make calls, his grandma sends him money.
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And he's just like, grandma, I don't need money.
I need dimes.
Don't you understand?
Dimes, dimes, dimes, motherfucking dimes.
Oh, just.
Shit, don't be mean to granny, you asshole.
I agree.
No, I absolutely agree.
But the memes that have come out of that,
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you've had to see the one when he's just like,
yes, motherfucker, yes, you're getting those pants
in every color, bro.
Are you seeing this shit?
You've seen that one, right?
I have literally seen nothing.
I'm really shocked that that hasn't come up on your For You
page.
It might have.
But any time I see something that
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looks like it's come from that show, I usually swipe on.
OK, that's good.
It's me trying to avoid spoilers.
No, that's smart.
Like I said, despite what inaccuracies it gets,
because I know it gets a lot, even
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frickin' Eric Menendez actually commented to his wife,
told his wife to comment, why are we still
lying about our case and putting these facts out
that aren't true.
It's still, I feel it's still a really good second season.
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And it's actually brought awareness more so
to the Menendez case.
And I don't know if you've heard this,
but there's actually talks of there being a resentencing
so that the two brothers might actually not
spend the rest of their life in jail, which personally, I
feel they shouldn't.
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You don't think?
You'll understand.
Oh, OK.
I watched the show, and you'll understand, I feel.
Well, didn't you just say the show's factually incorrect?
So in a lot of aspects, it is.
But it still gets the point across.
What their parents did to them was really messed up,
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especially their father.
And I don't want to get into it.
So what exactly did they get wrong?
Was it a characterization that they got wrong?
Or what was it?
The biggest one that they, because Eric and Lyle Menendez
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have a really close brotherly bond,
they really love each other.
But the show kind of like brotherly bond.
Brotherly bond is a very special thing.
But when you over-sexualize it, when you're just like, OK,
maybe that's a little too much.
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Yeah.
And it kind of leans into that category a little bit.
Yeah, there are some scenes that I'm just like,
they're like the way that Eric is touching Lyle in a party
scene, rubbing his hand down his face or something like that.
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And I'm just like, yeah, that, no.
What the hell?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a bit too much.
That's just Ryan Murphy being dramatic with his actors.
Fair enough.
But yeah, I'm excited for you to check it out
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and get your opinion on.
Yeah, I still need to watch freaking,
there's a couple of movies kind of dispersed
that I need to watch.
I still want to watch The Penguin, which I think I'm
waiting for all the episodes to come out.
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I'm waiting for that.
Then I want to watch Agatha all along.
And then what else?
Oh, and then I was wanting to watch that mythology series
that Zack Snyder put out on Netflix.
Oh, I didn't know about that.
Yeah, it's like animated.
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Oh, shit, OK.
So I'm super big into mythology.
And so he does like this whole Norse mythology thing.
And it's like animated.
And I've seen a couple of clips.
And it looks really good.
It looks really freaking good, like highly stylized.
And I love that.
Ooh, OK.
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So yeah, I want to check that out.
And then I think after that, I need
to watch the first season of Monsters.
So I might just binge both seasons.
Just know that season one is definitely more
effed up than season two, just because the person out there
they're focusing on.
Yeah, I had a feeling.
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I will say one.
So I saw the first episode of Everybody Still Hates Chris.
Have you seen any clips from that?
I saw the trailer for it.
Is it as good?
It's not as good as the original,
but it's still really good.
Ah, damn, I was hoping it was going to be as good.
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Like, personally, I don't think it's as good.
I think it's just like a step down.
But I'm still having a good time from what I've seen.
But the way that they put it into animation,
you're just like, OK, it's funny.
But you're just like, OK, I guess that's really
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all that you could have done.
Do you remember the ending of Everybody Hates Chris?
Yes.
I actually recently rewatched all of that.
OK, so it opens with when they're all in the diner.
And they open up his essay, what is it, GED scores.
Yeah.
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And it has, literally, it's still in live action.
And he's like, oh, what does it say?
And it pans out to the front of the diner.
And the mom goes, you failed.
And he's like, what?
And she goes, boy, I'm going to slap you into animation.
Slap some
And there we go.
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There's Everybody Hates Chris.
OK, obviously, they can't do original cast.
Did they get?
So they got the mom and dad back.
They got Terry Crews.
And I forget the lady that played Rochelle.
But actually, a lot of the other adult actors
came back, which was freaking, it's honestly crazy.
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You could pick up the voices.
You're just like, oh, that's Doc.
Oh, that's Mr. Lamar from upstairs.
It's really cool being able to pick out their voices.
So do they play their characters?
Or are they playing?
OK, good.
I was so worried about that.
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I was like, I mean, obviously, you can't not do the freaking,
or you can't have the kids, because they're old and grown.
And the guy who plays, or who played Chris, his voice
is all types of deep.
Yeah, like damn.
Yeah.
And have you watched the show that he's in, Abbott Elementary?
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I've seen clips, but I've never actually watched it.
Great show.
That's what I've heard.
The first, it takes a solid minute to get into.
But it's good once you get into it.
Once you start caring for the characters,
then you're like, all right, I'm here for it.
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But yeah, I figured that they'd have to recast the kids,
but I was hoping that with the adult characters,
they would keep.
No, from what I've heard, all of the adult actors
came back, which is awesome.
But the kids are doing great, too.
The kid that they picked to play Chris,
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I think is a really good fit.
Awesome.
What's that on?
So it's premiering on Comedy Central,
but I think it's on Tubi or Freevy.
That's how you can watch it.
It's not on Hulu or anything like that.
OK.
Well, cool.
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Yeah, so outside of shows, there's
a couple of movies I've watched within the past month
that I've been holding onto for quite a while.
The first movie that I'm going to talk about
is Uglies on Netflix.
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This, it has very divergent vibes about it.
Is that good or bad?
Yeah.
Because I mean, divergent never finished.
Right, right, right.
No, it was first divergent, where it was actually
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kind of good.
OK.
This wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination.
It is very dystopian future situation.
So what happens is there are these,
there's a community of people.
And when they are born, once they reach a certain age,
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they go to live in this community
of what they call Uglies.
And it's just people with their natural features.
Yeah.
And then when they get old enough,
and I believe the age was 16, it might have been,
it might be 18.
It's 16 or 18.
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But once they reach that age, they're
eligible to go and get this procedure done that makes them
what they call pretties.
And so it basically just gives them whatever features they
want, gets rid of basically any insecurity
that they have about their face, it'll fix it.
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And so some people want to be taller.
This dude, I mean, if you're looking at the poster
right now, the second guy in the freaking blondie,
he has, he kind of has like a busted up nose a little bit.
It's not bad.
I mean, it's obvious, these people look normal.
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And then they go and get this procedure done.
They just look very plasticky.
And then they have strange colored eyes and whatnot.
But this whole time, they're trying
to like freaking sell that Joey King is one of these uglies.
And I'm like, dude, I could buy a lot of shit.
Cannot buy this.
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But anyway, so she, her and her friend,
her super close friend, so like freaking blondie here,
they make a pact that once he gets the surgery
or once he goes through the procedure
that they'll meet at this bridge.
And they'll be like, he'll let her know what it,
like how it is and blah, blah, blah, blah.
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It doesn't end up happening.
She basically gets stood up.
He, or so she's like, OK, something
must have happened to him.
She goes and tracks him down, realizes that he's basically
just been taken over, like his brain and whatnot.
And so she goes back to her little community of uglies,
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connects with the chick in the back.
They become close friends.
And then she introduces her Joey King's character
to like a revolution, where their whole goal is just
for people to live and be in their own natural state.
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And honestly, it's definitely like one
of those cheesy utopia situations.
But I dug it.
And I liked it enough.
They did kind of leave it on the cliffhanger.
So I am hoping that they do a follow up.
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I'd love to see a sequel to this.
But I mean, it was good.
I enjoyed the movie.
But yeah, so I'm giving uglies a stream it.
This isn't one that's like I would say is worth going
to check out in like theaters or anything.
It's definitely meant to be viewed at home.
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The CGI in this, though, surprisingly good.
Like considering a Netflix like it.
Does it look rubbery?
Yes.
But I think they do enough cool shit with it that I'm like,
I can get behind it.
The next movie I watched is The Union.
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This was also surprisingly good.
I heard nothing but like bad shit about this movie.
I liked it a lot.
So it's Mark Wahlberg and who else?
Halle Berry.
Oh, Halle Berry.
Yeah, but they are old high school sweethearts.
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Or like the thing that they're there are the roles
that they're playing.
She is an agent within this secret intelligence agency
called The Union.
And the way that they differentiate themselves
is that they basically go undercover and hide
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as blue collar workers.
And most of the people that work there are blue collar workers.
So they hide around as garbage men.
Basically like the help.
Right?
I got you.
OK.
So any blue collar, that's how they blend into their environment
or whatever.
So she's an agent within The Union.
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He is just, he still lives in his old hometown
and is just not really doing much with his life
until she comes and recruits him because they need someone
that no one knows, someone that's completely off books
and whatnot because there's a risk of all
the names of people within the FBI and CIA,
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their names possibly getting leaked.
So that's the whole thing that they go through there.
But their chemistry is off the charts.
It is so much fun.
Watching them interact is hilarious.
Like I thoroughly enjoyed this movie.
And I heard nothing but bad shit about it.
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Like, oh, this movie is garbage.
It's not.
It's definitely cheesy.
It's over the top.
But turn your brain off.
Have a good time with it.
Yeah.
My only real complaint about this, it's a bit long.
Like they.
How long is it?
That's a great question.
Let's find out.
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Oh, yeah.
That's right.
That's right, my browser doesn't work.
Oh, don't I look it up?
No.
Hour 47.
OK, so like you think they could have like 15 minutes?
Yeah.
This they could have easily taken this to an hour and a half.
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I think they filled it up just a bit too much.
And that's saying a lot because like the movie feels longer
than an hour 47.
Damn.
Which isn't necessarily a good recommendation,
but it's a recommendation nonetheless.
Yeah.
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So I'm giving this.
Oh, I gave it nothing better to do.
It was enjoyable.
But OK.
Just hyping this movie up and then nothing better to do.
Honestly, I stand by it.
No.
I respect that.
I had this on as like background noise.
And it worked well for that.
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So the stuff that I did catch, I was like, hey,
that's pretty good.
But yeah, it's definitely better as background noise
than anything.
But it's still an enjoyable movie.
Like this is touching that stream at line,
just not quite passing it.
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The next one is another movie I've heard was kind of garbage.
Atlas.
Oh, god, dude, this movie got shit on so bad.
Not that bad.
Not that bad.
It is, again, a little over the top, like action wise.
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But freaking JLo brings it, dude.
Like her acting in this is pretty freaking solid.
The only thing I don't think I enjoyed
was Simo Liu's character.
That's unfortunate.
Yeah, so he plays like an AI that JLo's mother invented.
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And he goes rogue because he and yeah, he goes rogue,
threatens to destroy the planet, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like you know the shtick.
But he and his AI buddies, they freaking
piece out to a new planet.
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So they develop these new AI robots that hardwire.
You have to connect with them, like what they call it, sinking.
So they're basically connected, where the AI and the human
are both connected once they sink.
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She refuses because she's super anti-AI because, of course,
the freaking Simo Liu's character killed her mom
and whatnot.
Like I said, a little over the top, little cheesy,
but pretty freaking good.
Very predictable.
Like I don't think there's anything
like groundbreaking with the story.
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Like a lot of the twists and turns,
you can see coming from a mile away.
So like I said, nothing too special there.
But I'd say for her acting, pretty freaking solid.
So I am giving this a stream it.
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Like, I don't remember when I gave this.
I psyched myself out.
But yeah.
But yeah, that's what I ended up watching this, or a few weeks
ago.
I think that's it.
Yeah, that's it.
OK.
All right, well then, moving past weekly watch,
what do you say we jump into our headliner of the evening?
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I say, let's do it.
All right.
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All right, getting right into our headliner
of the evening, which will be our breakdown of Transformers 1.
Caleb, do one of the people know how we break down
movies on this podcast?
and personal review.
I would love to.
If you're new to our breakdown system,
we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter
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grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing,
acting, character development, effects, music, costumes,
And then we give our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up
and spit through our algorithm and give us a letter grade
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to compare this movie to others of a similar grade.
If you have not seen Transformers 1,
please do yourself a favor and go check it out.
Oh my gosh.
You have to see this on the big screen.
So freaking good.
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So yeah, spoilers.
Yeah.
But yeah.
So if you have not seen this movie,
yeah, stop, come back, listen to this episode.
But if you listen beyond this point
and anything's spoiled for you, sorry.
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Yeah.
Yeah, so Rose is about to spoil the entire freaking movie
for you in our favorite segment that we
like to call Reading with Rose.
Let me still get used to this new system.
Hold on.
There we go.
You're good, man.
Yeah, I'm glad we kept that title.
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Just kidding.
So yeah, if you listen beyond this point,
everything is going to be spoiled for you.
So you have been properly warned.
We are posting that spoiler warning now.
All right.
Cybertron is a planet inhabited by sentient robots fueled
by a substance called energon and fitted
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with transformation cogs, devices that allow them
to transform into vehicles.
In the city of Lakin, Orion Pax, a mining robot without a cog,
sneaks into an archive and watches
a documentary on the primes, the first Cybertronians made
directly by their creator Primus.
Security guards catch Orion, but his best friend, D16,
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bails him out.
Later, a cave-in occurs in the energon mine,
where the two work, trapping fellow miner jazzed.
While Orion and D16 save him, their overseer, Darkwing,
blames the incident on their superior, Elita I,
and has her demoted.
Cybertron's leader, Sentinel Prime,
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returns from an expedition to the planet's surface,
claiming to have fought off invading quintessence.
Is that what it is?
That sounds right.
Let's go with that.
Quintessence aliens and organizes a race and celebration.
To prove themselves as more than miners,
Orion and D16 enter illegally using jet packs but lose.
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While Sentinel promises to reward them for inadvertently
boosting mining morale, Darkwing reassigns the two
to garbage incineration, where they
meet the eccentric B127.
Yeah, sorry.
That's the end of the sentence.
After discovering a chip among the junk containing
a distress message from Alpha Trion, one of the Primes,
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Orion convinces D16 and B127 to travel with him
to his coordinates on the surface,
later also persuading Elita to join after she catches him
hitchhiking on a cargo train.
The four of the four eventually find a deactivated Trion
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in a cave alongside the corpses of the other Primes.
Upon reactivation, Trion is it Trion?
Trion.
Trion fought.
Jeez, what the hell?
Why is this word so hard for me to say?
I know, that's not even the most difficult word.
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No, it's not.
Trion reveals that Sentinel betrayed the Primes
and has secretly been working for the Quintessens,
giving them regular energon supplies in exchange
for letting him rule Cybertron while removing the miners'
cogs to keep them subservient.
That's a big word.
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Trion?
Is that what it was again?
Trion.
Trion.
Fuck.
Trion provides the group with cogs,
allowing them to transform in a chip-carrying evidence
of Sentinel's treason.
Sentinel and his forces then arrive,
capturing and killing Trion.
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Evading their pursuers, the team travels back to Laken
to expose Sentinel, but is captured by the High Guard.
By the High Guard, Warbots rebelling against Sentinel.
While D-16 takes command of them by defeating their leader,
Starscream, Orion grows concerned by his friends
increasing aggression since learning the truth.
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Sentinel's forces then find them,
and in the ensuing battle, the evidence chip is destroyed,
while D-16, B-127, and half the High Guard
are captured and taken back to Laken.
Orion, encouraged by Alita, rallies the remaining High
Guard members and returns to Laken to rescue their comrades.
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Once there, Orion convinces the miners
to rebel, while Alita exposes Sentinel
by broadcasting his Lieutenant Arachnid's memory recordings
throughout the city.
After defeating Sentinel, however, Orion and D-16
argue over whether to execute him,
resulting in the latter accidentally shooting
the former.
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While initially horrified, D-16 ultimately
lets Orion fall to his death.
Now calling himself Megatron, he kills Sentinel
and commands the High Guard to destroy Laken.
The spirits of Primus and the Primes
bestow Orion with the Matrix of Leadership,
reviving him as Optimus Prime, who then defeats Megatron
before exiling him in the High Guard.
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After the Matrix restores the miners' cogs
and Cybertron's dried-up energon reserves,
Optimus christened his followers as Autobots
and sends a message warning the Quintessens to stay away.
Meanwhile, Megatron renames the High Guard into the Decepticons
and declares war on Optimus.
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Hail to the yes.
So fucking good.
Oh, my gosh.
I don't know why I'm blaming myself.
I already said the F for quite a few times this episode.
Yeah.
It's already getting marked as explicit.
Freaking half at it, dude.
OK.
But bro, this movie had no business being this good.
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No, it did not.
I honestly, when I walked out of this movie, I told myself,
OK, you know what?
I'm going to finally go watch the original Transformers movie,
and I still haven't.
Kicking my ass for that.
Oh, my god.
Have you seen the original?
No.
Yeah.
OK, well, OK, we both need to watch that now,
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because I'm assuming it's just as good as this,
because that's what I've heard.
Dude, they killed this.
This movie is better than anything
that we got from Michael Bay.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
The first Michael Bay movie is pure nostalgia.
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If you really dive into it, the writing's not great,
the characters are hit and miss.
We were all just in awe of seeing these huge ass robots
transform in front of our eyes.
And I feel that's why the first one holds a special place
in a lot of the Millennials' hearts.
But as the movies went on, it just
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got worse and worse and worse.
And then you got Bumblebee, which
was a high point in the Transformers series.
And then, shit, what was the one that we got last year?
Rise of the Beast.
Which I thought was just, eh.
This, oh my.
Literally, it felt so nice walking out
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of a Transformers movie and being just like,
fuck, that was good.
Dude, chills throughout this movie.
Oh my gosh.
They did everything right.
They didn't miss a beat at all.
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They did not.
They established the brotherhood between Optimus
and Megatron flawlessly enough to,
and then you see the descent of Megatron.
And I'm like, dude, because this whole time,
I know the route that he's going down.
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You know where this is headed.
Like, even knowing that knowledge, it breaks your heart
to see, because you're just like, oh man.
Like, this isn't going to end well for them.
Like, obviously.
Like, you kind of hope that it does
in the back of your heart, but you know it's not.
And it just.
Dude, that moment when he told Optimus, I'm done saving you
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and just dropped him, my mouth dropped.
Mine too.
Dude.
Dude, I like, again, I knew it was coming.
Like, you knew by the end of this,
they were not going to be friends anymore.
No, yeah.
You knew that the Autobots and Decepticons
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were going to be established.
Oh my gosh.
But yeah, dude, that wrecked me.
Yeah.
Like, watching him drop him, I was like, oh man.
And then the fricking badass lines that we get,
which obviously we'll get into with writing,
but when he just yells, I am Megatron, I'm like, ah.
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My brain was ready to explode all over the fricking seat.
It was so good.
So, so, so, so, so good.
Yeah, it's hard.
I don't know what else to say.
I know.
You see them go through some tough times together,
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even within this movie, where they're like, I mean,
you see Orion taking the time to get him one
of the Megatronus stickers or decals for D16.
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That was so cool.
Yeah, it was super cool.
And he's like, oh yeah, like hell yeah, this is dope.
And it's just like, oh, fricking early signs
of the Decepticons.
Yep.
And then fricking one Sentinel engraved it into his chest.
You're like, oh shit.
Dude, you're just like, you're making
this worse for yourself, bro.
And then you are literally creating Megatron
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right before your eyes.
Yeah.
I'm like, if you only knew what was coming, bro.
I am so happy that they incorporated
so much of what we've all been excited about
with Transformers.
They established the relationship
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between Bumblebee and Optimus Prime.
Yeah.
The only character I feel that got a little,
that felt maybe a little unnecessary was,
what was her name, Alita?
Yeah, so Arcee.
Arcee.
Arcee.
Yeah.
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Is that who she is?
Yeah, yeah, she's Arcee.
Oh, OK.
Not familiar with her character, so maybe that's
why she felt a little unnecessary.
I'm honestly not either.
But I don't know from what I've, and I
don't know how accurate she's portrayed in the Michael Bay
movies.
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The way that they portrayed her in this one,
while it is way better, it's still
on the same level of character development.
She's definitely one that plays by the books.
She's there to encourage.
And so yeah, Bumblebee is definitely Optimus's right-hand
man, but she, hell, she's also Optimus's right-hand man
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when it comes to the Autobots.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I wish that they would have done a little bit more with her,
but honestly, you probably could have cut her as much
as I hate to say.
Yeah, that's fair.
But I mean, for what we got.
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Yeah, a small complaint in the grand scheme of things.
This movie was just so good.
It's just like, hey, you probably
could have cut this out and been fine.
Yeah.
No, that's fair.
But oh, my gosh, dude.
So, so freaking good.
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Yeah, dude.
Let's just get straight into this freaking story.
Sounds good to me.
Oh, my gosh.
I was blown out of the water with this.
They had a freaking chore to set up with this movie.
They really did.
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Origin of Orion to Optimus and then D16 to Megatron.
That was a chore.
No, seriously.
And it still blows my mind that the director of this
was also the director of Toy Story 4.
And I'm not a hater of Toy Story 4.
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I think it's just all right.
It's good.
It's decent.
It didn't need to happen, but it's not awful.
I just think it's good.
Whereas this one is just freaking great.
Yeah.
So freaking, it's just so, I feel
it's definitely clear that he understands Transformers more
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than he does Toy Story.
This is where I'm at with that.
Yeah, this is where I'm at with that.
Yes, he knocked it out of the park with this one.
I feel like with Toy Story 4, how would you
have gone about it any different?
No, I absolutely agree.
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Cool, you get invited to Disney or to Disney and Pixar
to basically create this new story.
Like, you're not going to turn, like, let's face it.
You're not going to turn down freaking Pixar.
No.
There's no way.
So you don't turn down Pixar and like, oh, well,
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I don't really know where the story is going to go.
You're going to freaking figure it out.
And yeah, coming into a franchise that was basically
done, impossible task.
Absolutely.
And honestly, the end product that we got,
I feel was as good as it could ever be.
I don't think that you could have
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had a better story, character development, anything
like that in a fourth Toy Story film.
And so honestly, kudos to this guy
for actually being able to pull it off and as well as he did
with the fourth Toy Story.
But with this, they treated it like, oh, this is an origin
film.
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This is the goal.
You just have to get us here.
Where Optimus and Megatron are enemies and Bumblebee's
in the picture.
This is where you need to get us to.
This is where we're at square one.
Versus, hey, continue this story that's basically done.
Like he got to come in and kind of do whatever
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he wanted with it as long as the end result was
what we all expect.
Yeah, what we all expect.
Because I feel when it comes to the Autobots and Decepticons,
the two Autobots that people care about the most
are Optimus and Bumblebee and then
Decepticons are Megatron and Starshring.
Yep.
And they pulled all four of those characters
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off perfectly here.
Even though he's in it for just a little bit,
Starscream is absolutely fantastic.
Oh my gosh.
The origin for Starscream's voice, perfect, dude.
Yeah, dude.
Megatron's the one that makes him go high pitched.
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Like makes complete sense.
Yeah.
And then he gets frickin' roasted for it.
He's like, wow, that's annoying.
It's like, yeah, that's exactly how it should have been, dude.
That was perfect.
I was so impressed with that.
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I was like, dude, he knew what he was doing.
He knew damn well what he was doing.
First off, casting Steve Buscemi as Starscream already inspired.
And I was like, all right, cool.
So now we know why he has an annoying voice,
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And then they made it worse.
And you're like, yes.
Are you saying that Steve Buscemi has an annoying voice?
Not necessarily annoying, but you know what I mean.
Yeah, no, I know.
It's, I don't know.
Like they nailed it.
They absolutely nailed it.
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Yeah, god damn.
So, so good.
They, it's crazy how well they pulled off everything.
The origin behind Megatron and Optimus was just,
it was heartbreaking to watch, especially when they did
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the fricking flashback where they were just meeting.
Oh, yeah.
And then they just like, if you got my back, I got yours.
I'm like, oh, no.
Yeah, and then it cuts too, and they're fricking having at it.
Like, oh, man.
But you understand both perspectives, though.
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Like, especially with this origin,
I think that's another thing that they did really well.
You understand both sides, where Orion was just like,
we need to right this wrong.
There needs to be justice, or justice needs to be brought.
The people need to know the truth, like the righteous path.
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And then Megatron just like, no, this fool needs to die.
Like, he needs to be executed in front of everyone,
and just shown for the monster that he is, and all this.
And so he took a very dark turn.
And you understand both sides, because like,
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100%.
Optimus, he idolized these people,
and idolized the centurion because he was a Prime.
And they're just like, oh, they took different views
of what the Primes were, where he's like, oh, they're great.
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Optimus is like, they're great leaders.
They're protectors of the planet, and all this and that.
And Megatron looked up to them like dots.
And he's like, no, but they have betrayed their people,
deceived us, and all this other shit.
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So I'm just like, god.
You understand both sides, and I loved it for that.
I'm like, yeah, like this is true.
Whose side are you on?
Like, the side of the Autobots or side of the Decepticons.
This is one where you could go either way,
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and I don't think either is a bad decision.
Yeah.
Versus the other, it's like, yeah,
the Decepticons are here to wipe out humanity.
In Michael Bay's version, it's just
like, what was the goal?
To destroy this planet?
Like, OK, cool.
Like, super easy to be against them.
And if you were on the team of the Decepticons,
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you were just kind of like, I don't know.
Like, yeah, they were cooler and stuff,
so you could be on their team because they're cooler.
But I mean, story-wise, you don't make sense.
It doesn't make sense to root for them.
Here, it's like, yeah, you could absolutely root for them.
Yeah, no, definitely.
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Getting off tangent really quickly,
did you ever play Transformers the Game from the first movie?
The frickin' do you remember the,
if you're playing on the Decepticon side
during the New York battle, just the height difference
between Blackout and Ironhide is insane.
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It felt like Blackout could just squash Ironhide at any moment.
No joke.
No frickin' joke.
But yeah, I personally, other than Optimus and Bumblebee,
the Decepticons have a much cooler selection.
Oh, dude, like, seriously.
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Dude, I am still so mad because Bone Crusher
was my favorite Decepticon in the first one.
And he died in like five minutes.
Yeah.
Such bullshit.
But he got one of the coolest scenes in all of Transformers
movies with him frickin' skating on the freeway.
That was so bad ass.
Dude, my favorite Decepticon, and this isn't from Michael Bay.
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This is just overall favorite Decepticon.
I personally really like Soundwave.
Oh, good choice.
Very good choice.
Yeah.
What's the other one, the one with the single,
like the one eye?
Shockwave?
Yeah.
Yeah.
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I love that Bumblebee's like, doesn't that get confusing?
Dude, straight up, though.
I love that they poked fun at the shit
that everyone's thinking.
Yeah.
I think that's just what kind of enhanced
my overall view of this movie.
Because they could have easily taken themselves too seriously.
But they didn't.
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They were just like, all right, we're going all in.
Like the shit that needs to be serious, we're taking serious.
But the shit that everyone just kind of unanimously agrees upon,
like Shockwave and Soundwave, like yeah,
or Starscream's voice, like yeah, we're
going to poke some fun at that stuff.
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So good.
But I loved it.
I frickin' loved it.
This story was so good, so well paced, and just, like I said,
so much better than it needed to be.
Yeah.
Like when the bar's on the frickin' ground,
like it doesn't take a whole lot to be better than Michael Bay's.
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But they did it.
This one frickin' shot to the moon.
Straight up.
Where are you sitting with story?
Oh, I am pretty goddamn high.
Same here.
I think story, I think it might be at 94.
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I'm at 97.
This is an almost perfect story for me.
No, that is completely fair.
Yeah, the only thing that might have affected it whatsoever
is the inclusion of, I want to say it's Aquila, or like.
RC, you can just call it RC.
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Yeah, RC is the inclusion of RC.
All right.
I don't think she was completely necessary.
But she was in it.
Are you passionate about Scar Joe?
No, I frickin' love Scar Joe.
This is some, we'll get into this in acting,
but this is some of the best voice work I've seen from her.
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Oh, dude, yeah, straight up.
Yeah.
Moving on over to writing again, frickin' top tier.
Yeah, dude, oh my.
Ah, so, so frickin'.
I know it's like it's the end credit scene,
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but frickin' when Megatron is like hyping all the Decepticons
up and he switches the Decepticon name,
and they all get the logos frickin' placed on them,
and they roll out, oh my god, his monologue,
I got frickin' chills.
Yeah, dude, I'll say this, his argument for naming them
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Decepticons a little weak, because him being like,
we're against deception, there will be no more deception.
But you're calling yourself Decepticons.
It kind of sounds like that's your thing.
Yeah, kind of a little stretch in there,
but you know what, I'll give it a pass.
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Yeah, I mean, your speech is hyping me up.
This is something that if I hear this speech,
I'm getting the tattoo, and then I'm like, you know what,
I'm just starting to realize that doesn't really
make any sense.
Oh, shit.
That was super good.
The fricking optimist, dude.
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Once that he became optimist, that was the bomb.
Dude, I love that both of them had badass ending monologues,
optimists at the end of the movie,
and then Megatrons in the end credits scene.
Again, this is getting into acting.
I am genuinely surprised that Peter Cullen did not
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do any voice work for the end.
Not because I felt like he should have,
it's because I would have sworn that Chris
Emsworth sounded exactly like him.
No, right, because I remember seeing it in an interview.
They had that plan that he was going to just start off
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sounding a little bit like Chris Emsworth,
but as the movie progressed and when he became optimist prime,
he was going to give the best Peter Cullen impression
that he could give.
And he did it.
Damn.
He nailed it.
And dude, nothing gets me more hyped than a good Peter Cullen
monologue.
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And now Chris Emsworth, oh, I love him.
He has pushed himself artistically to the edge.
And he's just constantly pushing himself past.
Anything that I'm like, when he first
got announced to voice optimist, I was so hesitant.
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I was like, there's no way that this is going to be good.
But he nailed it.
I had to think this is his first voice acting role.
Oh my gosh.
What a way to start out.
Right on the top.
That's not true.
Oh, it's not?
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I thought I heard that.
Well, outside of MCU, because he voiced Thor in What If.
Oh, OK.
So technically not.
Can we not count that?
What if is a good show, you asshole?
No, no, I'm not saying what if's a bad show.
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I'm just saying he's literally just doing the voice.
I get it's a voice over, but it's the voice of a character
he plays in live action.
This is actually a fully animated character
that he actually does a voice for.
So in my book, I'm going to say that this is his first actual big voice
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acting role.
Pick and choose.
All right, well, if we're going to be petty.
Oh, shit.
I'm looking just to see if there's anything
that we might have missed.
It doesn't seem like it.
So yeah, the only technically it was Thor.
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And then technically Optimus Prime.
Yeah, but bro, the dialogue here is freaking pristine.
They nailed this.
I'll tell you what I was shocked about.
The fact that they could get away with staying bad ass
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a tron like five or six times in a PG movie.
Same.
Completely same.
Oh, my gosh.
Bumblebee?
I was afraid for Bumblebee.
I was like, because sometimes I feel like Keegan-Michael Key
can take it a little far.
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I think he took it just far enough.
He was walking a line.
Don't get me wrong, but I think he stayed on the right side of it.
Because there was a lot of alliance with him that I was dying.
Yeah.
Like when they come in that room after he's done and sliced up
all the controls, and they're just like, what you do that for?
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And he's like, oh, that was already like that.
Right?
I hate that that joke got ruined in the trailer.
Dude, there was a lot of freaking one-liners.
I was like, yo, what?
I was taken so off guard by some.
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And I love when a movie can do that.
Yeah.
You freaking him when he would talk about his friends.
And what happens?
One of their heads falls off, and he's just like, no,
or some shit like that.
Yeah, and he tells Orion that he killed Steve.
And he's like, yo, I didn't kill Steve.
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And then Dee's in the back like, Steve wasn't even alive.
Oh, man.
So freaking funny.
Oh, man.
I love the writing here.
I don't think it was as perfect as the story, though.
I'm the same way.
This is one I'm probably down where you're at with writing.
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I'm at a 94.
It was top tier.
Don't get me wrong.
The dialogue that we get from both Optimus and Megatron,
prime.
Absolute pr-
Yeah, pun intended.
But yeah, it was peak Transformers.
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It was exactly what Peter Cullen would have been capable of.
100%.
And yeah, Hemsworth knocked it out of the park.
And it was just so well written, dude.
So well written.
But yeah, I'm at 94.
I think I'm just going to be one point below at a 93.
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All right, moving on over to acting.
Going through this cast, we got Chris Hemsworth,
who voiced the man, the myth, the legend, Orion Pax,
AKA Optimus Prime.
Then we got Brian Tyree Henry, who
voiced D-16, who becomes Megatron.
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Scarlett Johansson, who voiced Alita One.
It was Alita.
Why was I saying Aquila?
Yeah, Alita One.
Then we got Keegan Michael Key, who voiced B-127, AKA Bumblebee.
Then we got Steve Buscemi, who voiced Starscream.
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Laurence Fishburne, who voiced Alpha Trion.
And then we got John Hamm, who voiced Sentinel Prime.
This is going to be an interesting one when it comes to top three.
What?
Yeah.
Where are you sitting?
I think number one, just because I love Megatron so much as a character,
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and I love the Decepticons.
So I got to give number one to Brian Tyree Henry.
Same.
I love.
Same.
Hell yeah.
It was such a close call.
For a majority, I was sitting there.
I'm like, all right, Chris Hemsworth is definitely taking home number one.
And then he gives the whole I am Megatron line.
I'm like, boom.
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I'm done.
Yeah, we're going to finish with a punch.
Like seriously, just absolutely amazing performance.
Is this his first voice acting, or is Brian Tyree Henry done more?
That's a great question.
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I want to say that this might be his first.
Let me check.
Oh no, frickin' he plays Miles' dad in Spider-Verse.
I forgot about that.
Oh shit, that's right.
Yeah.
So yeah, Guy already has an impressive resume when it comes to voice acting.
And he just kicked it up a notch with how he voiced D16 slash Megatron.
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Like, holy shit.
Like, the way that he's able to deepen his vocal cords, especially like what you pointed
out when he says I am Megatron.
Like, fuck, dude.
Like, holy shit.
Goosebumps, absolute chills.
Same here, dude.
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That shit just resonated through the whole room.
And I'm like, ah.
So hyped.
So frickin' hyped.
Just like comparing the tone in his voice with that moment to when we were first introduced
to him, him and Orion's relationship.
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It's just insane.
Like, the journey that this character goes on.
But honestly, both him and Optimus, or Orion.
Such, such great.
Kind of like skipping ahead a little bit here.
Amazing character development in this movie.
Yeah.
So, Brian Tyree Henry, number one.
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Number two.
Gotta give to Chris Hemsworth.
Orion Pax.
Just as good.
Brian just a little edged him out a little bit.
But that doesn't take away for how amazing Chris Hemsworth was in this role.
If anyone could make Peter Cullen proud for taking on the role of Optimus Prime and not
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only making it his own, but trying to make his voice sound as close as he can to Peter
Cullen, Chris Hemsworth was truly the man for the job.
Just listening to how his voice starts out, you know, like kind of a little more soft
spoken, but then once we get to the ending and freaking you get him giving his bad ass
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monologue and saying, I am Optimus Prime.
We are the Autobots.
Any Decepticons that come in our way, let them know our wrath or I know I'm making shit
up.
I can't remember the whole freaking monologue.
But just so, so freaking good.
Yeah.
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Straight up.
Oh, all right.
What's it?
Who's your number three?
So number three, I think number three, I'm going to give to Steve Buscemi, Star Scream.
Really?
Yeah.
I, he was just absolutely fantastic and just, I felt, honestly, I felt a little bad that
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frickin just Star Scream got choked to death and that's how he got his high pitched voice.
But frickin Steve Buscemi was the perfect choice for Star Scream.
And he's a great voice actor to begin with.
Frickin Randall from Monsters Inc.
Like, come on.
And so just seeing him, seeing his voice come out of one, like he's, he's definitely, Star
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Scream is definitely up there for me when it comes to favorite Decepticons, even though
a lot of people frickin bitching complain about Star Scream and saying he's frickin
just he's just Megatron's bitch.
So, I think Star Scream can actually be cool.
And he actually has had some really good character moments written for him.
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But just, yeah, like I, every moment that Steve Buscemi was on screen as Star Scream,
I absolutely loved.
But like, I will say, like, Steve Buscemi, like, barely, barely, squeaked a little above
Keegan-Michael Key.
I, it was close.
Like Keegan-Michael Key was absolutely fantastic as Bumblebee or B127.
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But just, yeah, Steve Buscemi just, just inst, just a little more forward than him.
Fair enough, dude.
Yeah, his.
This didn't help with the whole being Megatron's bitch thing.
No, it did not.
But it did make a little bit more sense that they're like the high guard and that they
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were like, yeah, this is, this is how things are run.
It's basically whoever, like the strongest is their leader, which makes sense.
Totally frickin' tracks.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, when Megatron comes in, just frickin' wrecks him.
He's just like, yeah, sounds about right.
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Yeah.
Oh, yeah, really, really well done.
But my number three, it's just because I was, I was super impressed with her performance.
I'm giving it to ScarJo.
All right.
Hell yeah.
She, the, like, I don't know.
Like I think it was just like her yelling was really impressive because like a lot of
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her, she kind of keeps the same tone.
Like it's not necessarily monotone, but anytime like she's done voice work or even her acting,
she's very like, she keeps like the range consistent.
Like it fluctuates a little bit, like with different emotions, but you don't see it jump
from like kind of soothing to super intense.
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Like it, it jumps around a lot more than like some of her other roles.
And she, she does seem like very like soft spoken person.
And like, I mean, obviously I've seen her like kind of yell at our stuff in like Avengers,
but not, not quite to this degree.
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And it, it, she impressed me a lot, even though I didn't necessarily think her character was
a hundred percent relevant in this.
I, I did quite enjoy her performance.
And I think the only thing keeping Keegan Michael Key from getting four was, I think,
like I said, he was walking that line and I think he might've tipped out a little bit
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over it at times.
Like when he, like when he was yelling and he just like kept calling himself bad ass
at Ron, like four times in a row, I'm like, bro, can we be done with this?
Yeah, we get it.
Yeah.
Like you used up all of your bad ass at Ron jokes for the rest of the movie.
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Thank you, sir.
Yeah.
I, I, I wish, well, I think about it.
Sam with Wiki was the one that gave him the nickname, right?
Bumblebee?
Or did he have the name when he was at on earth?
No, he already, he already had the name.
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Sam didn't give him Bumblebee.
I want to know where the name came from.
I do too.
Like, I get that he has like the, the knife hands, the stingers, if you will, and whatever,
but I don't think they have the frame of reference for bees.
Fair.
So I'd like to know where that came from.
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But yeah, overall acting dude, pretty freaking good.
Yeah, I feel also one that really stood out was John Hamm as Sentinel Prime.
He was fantastic.
Oh, so good.
Dude, I had a hard time placing his voice.
Same here.
Like, I was like, when I was going through the cast list, I was trying to like, put it
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in place it because I was like, all right, obviously, Alpha Trion was Lawrence Fishburne.
Like, yeah, you can pick his voice out.
Yeah, million miles away.
And then like everyone else is like Steve Buscemi's key.
Like I was able to place all of theirs really quick.
But Sentinel, I was just like, I swear, like, I know this voice from somewhere.
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But yeah, I couldn't place it until like the credits were rolling.
And they're just like, yeah, freaking John Hamm.
But yeah, he did really good as well.
I don't think there's a single person that brought it down.
At least not too much.
If anyone, it was Bumblebee for me.
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That's fair.
But, I mean, even the extra Decepticons, like freaking Soundwave and Shockwave.
Like, they were freaking hilarious.
Like I love it.
Like, I think it was Soundwave that was like, like, why would we follow you?
And then she like, Alina freaking like rips like a new ass and he's like, we're going
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to follow you.
Like immediately.
I love the jokes that the Decepticons got.
And I love the lore behind them too.
Yeah.
This added such a good lore to the Decepticons where it's not just, oh, they're just automatically
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following Megatron and just like for no reason whatsoever.
It's like, no, they were the high guard, some of the greatest fighters of all of Cybertron.
And they knew the betrayal that happened from Sentinel.
And so they were just kind of like fighting the good fight in the shadows, if you will.
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I love that.
I love that aspect of them because it made them feel like superheroes.
Yeah.
Like, and even when like when Optimus started like more or less commanding them and like
leading them, I was just like, this tracks, dude.
Like this absolutely tracks.
One hundred percent.
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Yeah.
Acting, I'm pretty high, dude.
I'm probably like a 91.
I was thinking the same thing.
All right.
Moving on over to character development.
Prime time.
Like, this is how you do like you got everything like not including Bumblebee and Alita in
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this.
Like this is purely the development of of Optimus and Megatron.
Yeah.
And you.
They did it so well.
They did.
Yeah.
Like you pointed out earlier, you can understand both sides completely.
Yeah.
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And there's like in this instance, I don't feel like there's a wrong side.
Same here.
It's just are you more on the are you more of a revenge taker or are you more a seeker
of justice?
And and like that's really the deciding factor because both completely valid.
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Yep.
But yeah, I loved it.
I loved everything that they that they did with that.
I just love the fact that you know, they didn't try to focus on one over the other.
Like they wanted to make sure that both of them haven't had an even split of great character
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development so that no matter when we came to the ending of the movie, no matter if you've
always been an Autobot or Decepticon fan, if you thought about it, you could completely
understand why these two went against each other and why these two factions were formed.
Yeah.
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And this was a great this is a great way to divide what were essentially brothers.
Yeah.
Like one just took the dark road, one took the the road of of justice and light.
And obviously those two ideals clash and it just it came to to a head and that that made
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it feel very authentic.
One hundred percent.
But what was what was great about it, too, is you got to see their growth as characters
from the get go.
Like you got to see them kind of going through hard times like friggin Megatron hiding Optimus
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and like the trash bins and stuff kind of like distracting, like getting him out of
trouble.
And then you got to see like the nice side of of Optimus like to give him the decal for
his favorite prime.
And he's like he's just like sporting it.
He's like, yeah, super, super cool.
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And like you like you got to see them kind of be goofy together.
And then when they they're taken to the races and they're like like you saw like the trust
that they had in each other where it wasn't just Optimus like going and saving the day,
like friggin Megatron was was doing it, too.
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Like they were like they were helping each other out and to the point where it was just
like, yeah, like they almost won the damn race as like as miners.
Yep.
Like miners with jetpacks.
Yeah.
As as practically being nobodies.
They almost won that whole friggin thing.
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And yeah, it's it's crazy because they work together and it's just like them working together
is is is awesome.
And then just when when they go, it just like seeing that like that camaraderie and then
seeing the slow decline of them kind of like separating it was it was heartbreaking, dude.
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It was so that's when it gets like that scene where he's like, I'm done like watching your
back and then drops him.
I'm like, shit like that.
That was so intense kick to the nuts.
Oh, man.
But I loved it.
I there's zero complaints on my end, dude.
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Like this is another category that's in the the high 90s.
I'm the same way.
I got zero complaints as well.
Where are you sitting at?
I am at a 96.
I'm actually a 97 with that.
All right.
All right.
All right, next up, we got effects, but this is an animated movie.
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So we are going to be talking about the animation.
And boy, was it beautiful.
Oh, it was so cool.
It was so freaking cool, dude.
Like this animation was perfect.
I love that they took the classic designs from the TV show in the movie and just changed
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like just just a couple of things, you know, like update the designs a little bit.
But it's they still take state.
Wow.
They still stay true to how these characters originally looked and as as they should look.
Yeah, exactly.
And every upgrade that they got made perfect sense as to like what how why they look the
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way that they look like.
I love that they get their their initial cog, which just kind of gives them the ability
to transform.
And then Megatron actually goes through a couple where he's like his rage is like activating
these things.
So he gets the freaking cannon on his arm.
Yeah.
And then he goes defeats Sentinel, rips him in half, takes Megatronus' cog, replaces it.
(01:18:46):
And then he like freaking beefs up more.
I'm like, hell yeah.
And then same deal with freaking Optimus, like once he gets the the what's it called?
The oh shit.
Something of leadership.
Is it the matrix of the matrix?
Yeah, the matrix of leadership.
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Once he gets that and freaking beefs up to Optimus like the Optimus Prime, you're like,
hell yes.
Like so freaking cool.
Yeah.
I was worried, though, like when he did finally like kind of transform or once he got like
the initial cog, I was like his little his little ear things aren't sticking up as high
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as they should be.
So I was worried that they weren't going to do that.
But then obviously got the matrix and they popped up a little bit more.
Hell yes.
Like you guys, you guys killed it.
You guys absolutely killed it.
They really did.
Yeah.
But I mean, that was just prime time.
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One thing I appreciate about the animation, they like this is one of my big complaints
about the Transformers movies in general.
Sometimes the action is a little hard to follow.
Just because they're like clanging around.
They're trying to like project that these characters are big and massive.
Like compared to I feel.
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No, I completely agree, and that's what I'm.
That's what kind of sucks about Decepticons, or at least in the Michael Bay ones, because
like the Autobots are like most of them are like pretty colorful, you know, Optimus, Bumblebee,
Ratchet.
Whereas, for again, all the Decepticons, at least in the first movie, were either black
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or gray.
That's literally how they were.
And so freaking there were moments that, yeah, it was kind of hard to tell which apart.
Yeah, I think like this design or this overall look for those.
I mean, for the Autobots and Decepticons works a little bit better because then you got like
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shockwave who's purple.
Nope.
Soundwave who's purple.
Shockwave is the well, is Shockwave purple too?
No, he's great, right?
I don't know, man, you got me.
Shockwave is Shockwave purple.
Is that what you're asking?
Let's see.
Shockwave Decepticons.
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Looks like he is purple.
And then why is it when I bring up Shockwave, it brings up that marshmallow guy.
OK, and then Soundwave is like blue.
OK.
Or blue ish.
Why am I on freaking?
Oh, so she is.
Do I like Soundwave better?
I think I got it a little mixed up.
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Yep, I sure do.
Yes.
Soundwave is the.
Do I say Soundwave or do I say Shockwave?
I can't remember.
OK, whoever.
Basically the one that doesn't have two eyes is my favorite.
OK, Decepticon.
Got it.
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Yeah.
Yes.
Soundwave, Soundwave is my favorite.
So this just shows how much I know about the OG Transformers.
I had no idea that Bonecrusher was Decepticon that was just made for the movies.
I thought it was an actual Decepticon.
But literally, just see, I bring up Bonecrusher, Transformers, and all you get is like just
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Michael Bay.
Dude.
I guess he was like putting.
I felt the same way with freaking Jazz.
Like Jazz was my favorite.
Autobot to play as outside of Optimus and Bumblebee.
Yeah.
Oh, like from the games.
And so like seeing him kind of get a little shout out in this movie was great for me.
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That was cool.
Yeah, he definitely deserved that after Megatron wanted two, not one, or he didn't want just
a piece.
Yeah, that scene, like so messed up.
Like Megatron is such an asshole for that.
Yes.
It's like, oh, you got jokes, Megatron.
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Okay.
Oh, man.
Yeah, the animation was so good here.
Like it was really freaking good.
This is one I have zero complaints on.
Are you going 100?
Because I am not.
I'm sorry.
I don't think I'm quite 100 yet.
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I think what could have bumped this is like a stylized animation.
Like not obviously not doing exactly what's into the Spider-Verse did, but I think something
like stylized in that realm could have really boosted it up for me.
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All right.
I'm putting the animation maybe like a 92.
Wow, that's a lot lower than I thought you were going to be.
Well, I don't think it did anything too extreme with the animation.
That's fair.
Like animation, like this is one that I...
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The thing that like I would honestly, other than like a couple scenes, like if you were
to take a couple scenes out, I would probably be in the 80s.
All right.
Like because I don't think the animation is too fancy, I'll say.
Like that's like how I'll word it.
But I think with some of the scenes though, they did look freaking incredible.
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Like I loved when they got to the surface and just those wide shots of everything and
just seeing Cybertron.
Like how do you make a non-organic, organic planet?
And I loved what they did with it.
Yeah, shit, man.
Okay.
You know what?
I'm going to match you.
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92 as well.
All right.
Next up we got music, which this was...
This is probably one of the lower parts of the movie.
Yeah.
Nothing really huge to write home about.
Yeah.
I mean, they definitely did have some like epic action sequences or like the soundtrack
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for that was like, was epic and everything.
Yeah.
And it fit well with the scenes.
I just don't know if it's...
I'd probably be at like a six and a half.
So whichever way you want to go with that.
I'm personally at a six.
Yeah.
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Close call.
Really close call.
Yeah.
I think what really got me pumped up is during the credits have like a freaking crazy rendition
of the Transformers.
Yeah.
I would have gone nuts.
That would have been awesome.
Yeah.
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That would have been so freaking cool.
I got so freaking pumped, dude.
All right.
Next up, costumes.
But with this being animated, we're going to be talking about the character design.
I don't believe I have to say it.
Ten out of freaking ten.
Yeah.
Like literally, you took kind of like what I pointed out with the effects.
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You took the designs, how they originally looked in the cartoon and just bumped it up
to an 11 in the best way possible.
Yeah.
You freaking pimped them out.
I was honestly worried with how Megatron looked, but he got intimidating real quick.
Yeah.
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For real.
Yeah.
And then, gosh, he got so much cooler once he activated the freaking arm cannon.
I was like freaking, hey, this works so well.
And then I wasn't on like completely on team Orion Pax until he went Optimus Prime.
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Fair.
But Optimus Prime was the bomb, dude.
His freaking battle axe hand.
I was like, hell to the yes.
Dude, freaking, I've always loved the OG design for Starscream and freaking seeing that in
this animation was so freaking cool.
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That just put a huge smile on my face.
Yeah.
Same with some of my favorite sound wave and shock wave.
Perfect.
Yeah.
They couldn't have done it better.
I'll say Bumblebee, I dug Bumblebee's look.
(01:27:47):
Yeah, same here.
I think the only thing I maybe would have changed about Bumblebee is, would you have
wanted him to be a little more yellow, not gold?
Or were you fine with this color?
I was fine with the color.
I would have added some black.
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Okay.
Yeah, I can agree with that.
Especially with him working in like waste.
I think him having just a constant dark spot would have, and then once he transforms, that
just kind of goes with him.
Yeah.
I think that would have explained the overall look of him a bit better.
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But yeah, I was fully on freaking team Optimus.
Once he activates the freaking battle mask, I'm like, hell yes.
So pumped.
So freaking pumped.
Everything that they did was so good.
It really was.
Everyone looked amazing.
Exactly how you would imagine them to look in the old show.
(01:28:56):
Yeah.
So yeah, easy 10 out of 10 there.
All right, last up, we got our own personal scores.
Who's going first?
That's up to you.
Since I end the episode, do you want to go first?
Sure.
This is now my new favorite Transformers movie in general.
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This is an incredible, incredibly well done story that takes itself just the right amount
of serious, but still has like really good elements of fun in it.
And when they get serious, they get freaking serious, but when it's like the rest of the
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time, they keep it very lighthearted and fun.
And they keep it going.
The pacing here is incredible.
I love what they did.
Absolutely love what they did here.
It was really well done.
I plan on watching quite frequently once it comes to streaming.
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Gosh, I want to freaking blast.
I want to recreate that I am Megatron scene in my shop with the badass speakers and everything.
I want to freaking relive that.
Yes.
Gosh, I think I'm going to put this at like a 93.
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I'm crazy about this movie.
Absolutely agree with everything that Caleb said.
This is the best Transformers movie to date.
This was like the apology letter for not the first Transformers movie that Michael Bay
did, but all of the sequels that followed.
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This was Paramount being like, hey, we know those sucked.
And we know you guys actually love seeing Transformers on Cybertron where they should
be.
So we're going to give you this movie.
You guys deserve it.
And they were right.
We did deserve it.
They killed it.
Everything was just fan freaking fantastic.
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And I have very little complaints.
And just like Caleb, I can't wait to revisit this movie once it comes to streaming.
I got to point one thing out really quickly.
So I saw this movie twice in theaters, once in 2D, once in 3D.
3D was pretty damn good for this movie.
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I mean, honestly, you could say that about any animated film, but a Transformers animated
film, this shit looked fantastic in 3D.
Damn.
That's one thing I feel like I missed out on.
I did not get to see this in 3D.
It was kind of annoying though, because there was a family behind me that wouldn't stop
talking.
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But oh well.
Dude, we could have a whole other podcast about freaking movie theater etiquette.
We really could.
Freaking bullshit.
But yeah, so I think I'm just going to be a little below Caleb at a 91.
(01:32:30):
Hell yeah.
All right, going through these scores real quick.
Starting off with story, we ended up averaging out to a 95.5.
The writing is sitting at a 93.
Acting is sitting at a 91.
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Character development gets a little bit of a bump sitting at a 96.5.
The animation is sitting at a 92.
The music is the lowest point of this movie, sitting at a 6 out of 10.
The cost or the character design is sitting at a very strong 10 out of 10.
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And then our personal score ended up averaging out to a 93.
So with that, the final Albrose letter grade for Transformers 1 has come out to an A minus.
Let's go.
Hell yes.
That is perfect.
(01:33:36):
I was so worried that that 6 was going to bump it or throw it down into the B plus range.
I was too, but we pulled through where it pulled through.
Hallelujah.
Yeah.
So this is sitting at 92% even.
(01:33:57):
All right, I like that.
Like dead even, like 92.0.
Damn.
All right, let's go.
And I can't think the last time that's ever happened.
It's been a hot minute.
But yeah, so Transformers 1 is sitting below.
(01:34:20):
It's below Elvis.
Okay.
It is below A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood.
Okay.
It is below the Bob's Burgers movie.
Yeah, that's fair.
It is below Joker.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.
(01:34:41):
And it is below Pulp Fiction.
Okay.
Yeah.
Going the opposite direction.
It is sitting above Logan.
Wow, damn.
Right.
Holy shit.
It is sitting above the Batman.
Again.
Wow.
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Holy shit.
Okay.
It is also sitting above the Super Mario Bros.
movie.
Okay.
It is above Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2.
Okay.
And it is above Coco.
Whoa.
I had a feeling you were going to have some thoughts about that one.
(01:35:25):
No comment.
Dude, it's a pretty decent home.
So R8 minus.
No, it is.
R8 minus is between a 94% and a 90%.
And this is sitting right in the middle at 92.
(01:35:46):
Damn.
That's insane.
Yeah, like 94% is when you start getting into like the A range.
So this is one or 2% shy, which I think is totally on par.
Yeah.
I agree.
Honestly, if you would have given us the freaking Transformers theme, it probably would have been higher.
(01:36:08):
Missed opportunity.
Missed opportunities.
All right.
Well, unless Caleb, you have anything else you want to add for Transformers 1?
Nope.
Okay.
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Wow.
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If you can't find us, I would be very, very shocked.
Yeah, I would too.
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Did I miss one?
I don't think so.
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Next week on the podcast, we will be breaking down a movie.
I am actually, I'm very, because I don't think Caleb's seen it yet.
Not yet.
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I am really, really excited to hear what you think because I'm like one of the, I feel I'm one of the like people that is like actually, I think it's good.
So like, I'm very interested to see what you think.
But next week is going to be our breakdown of Joker, Filet A Du.
(01:38:02):
So I am freaking stoked for this, for that episode.
Dude, I'm so nervous about going to see this.
Dude, did you see that they already announced the streaming day for it?
Oh man.
Less than a month.
So not this coming, so yeah, not this Tuesday, the one that the day that we're recording this on.
(01:38:28):
Next Tuesday is when it comes to streaming.
So the next, or so the day we record.
Yeah, so the 22nd.
Yeah, I'm pretty, I'm okay.
You know what?
Let me just double check really quickly.
That is hilarious.
I, I'm not going to get into it.
(01:38:49):
I'm going to save it for the episode because yeah.
Where is this?
Oh, okay, my bad.
It's not next week, the following week.
So October 29th is when it will be available to purchase.
(01:39:10):
But like you said, less than a month.
Yeah, they pointed out right here, just 25 days after the movie opened in theaters.
Damn.
Yeah.
Oh, good.
I'm pumped.
I'm so pumped.
I am very, yeah, I cannot wait to hear your, your thoughts.
(01:39:33):
I'm very excited.
My gosh.
But yeah, you can look forward to that next week.
But until then, this has been the All Bros podcast.
I am Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we'll catch you guys next week.
So long.
Deuces.