Ep. 345: Moana 2 Breakdown

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What is up bros? I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we are a couple of bros on a mission to

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give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros. This week on the podcast we are going to be updating you guys
and what we've been watching this week in our weekly watch segment. And then we are
going to get right into our breakdown of Moana 2. Yeah. Yeah. Which I just saw today as of

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the day that we're recording. So same here. I am very fresh off of this. You saw it today?
Yeah. I would have sworn I got that message from you that it was good last night. No,
I sent it this afternoon. Oh, did you really? Yeah. I don't know what. No, dude, like literally
I just told you like a half hour ago, like, oh, I was going to watch the first one. My

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original plan was to watch this second one last night, but I decided to just push it
to see on five, but Tuesday and watch the first one again Monday night. But that didn't
happen and then just and just still saw more to today. So, okay. Yeah, I just checked or

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double check. I think I got it confused with a different message. Okay. Oh, man. But yeah.
So we'll we'll get right into that breakdown. But yeah. So with that, let's say we get right
on into this. Let's do it. Hell yeah. Need motivation? Angry Dad podcast. Trying to jumpstart

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was missing something. Oh shit. I am freaking dumb. Can you upload them once you've started?
We're about to find out. Okay. Oh, man. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can. Okay. Phew. But anyway,
so that gets pulled up. You want to tell everyone what you've been doing? Yeah. So for me for

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weekly watches, me and my buddy Ryan wanted to meet up and go to the movies since it had
been I think, like a month or so since we'd met up outside of work. And so we decided
to go see Gladiator 2. But before that, I had never seen Gladiator. Just usually these

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kind of movies just aren't my thing. I don't know what it is. I'm not the biggest fan of
I have like, you know, like Roman Empire, that kind of stuff. I mean, it I mean, shit
looks really cool. But you know, like 300 Gladiator, these kind of movies, they're just
not my thing. But usually when I actually do watch them, I still I end up doing. Oh

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my god, I end up enjoying them still. And it was the same case with both of these movies,
honestly. First, first with Gladiator. I thought it was really good. Russell Crowe was amazing,
as he always is. Russell Crowe is an amazing actor. But I was shocked to see a frickin

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young Joaquin Phoenix in here as the bad guy. And just as as he is amazing as Joker, he
is amazing in this movie. I think personally, I think he stole the show from Russell Crowe.
They're dead ass. But yeah, so the the story was good. The what? Freaking this guy went

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through like, holy shit, like, damn, like, I don't, you know what, I'm just gonna you
know what this movie came out, what 24 years ago, I'm gonna spoil it. Who gives a shit?
Fair enough. I won't spoil the sequel. But this one, I think is fine. Um, just what he
goes through for how like, he's like, at the top, the frickin the the king is basically

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going to pass his mantle on to him. But then Joaquin Phoenix, his son, kill kills the king.
And so he gets passed down to him. He basically, Russell Crowe gets stripped of everything
his family is brutally murdered, murdered, and then hanged for his for him to stumble
upon. And just he is thrown in as a Gladiator. All the shit that he has to go through, and

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then he dies a noble death at the end, like, just after he kills Joaquin Phoenix, his character,
like, holy shit. Like, God damn, dude, I, I actually don't believe I've seen this movie
all the way through before. Like, I've seen, I've seen like bits and pieces of the beginning,

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and I've seen bits and pieces of the end. So I'm kind of left to fill in the the middle.
All right. But yeah, I've, I've never quite watched it in its entirety. I recommend it.
I mean, are you a fan of these kind of movies? Roman Empire, gladiator kind of stuff. They're
not my first choice of movies to watch. I kind of had the same relationship with them

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that I do with like, war movies. Like, I'm not super big into war movies, even though
that's like one of my favorite. This is how weird I am, dude. I as much as I love watching
or learning and reading about World War Two, or like any of the World Wars or either of

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the World Wars, probably any, anytime soon. But once I wrong, yeah, I'm very interested
in learning about the World Wars. I love learning about like the Romans Spartans, like that
type of, of era. I love the mythology of of Greece and all that good stuff. But for whatever

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reason, the movies don't quite get me. Like even the like, even though the myths or mythology
movies don't really like spark an interest in me, even though I'm super interested in
the mythology, it's just the movies themselves don't do it for me. So I don't know what it
is. But I, I'm with you though. I enjoy it when I do watch it. But they're never my like,

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my go to.
Oh, fair enough. Yeah, no. Um, yeah, like, if it weren't for Ryan wanting to go see the
sequel, I probably maybe I would have watched this years down the road. I don't know. But
you know, I'm glad I finally checked it out. 24 years later. I it's crazy how many frickin

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awards this one though, like frickin it swept the year. It came out for the Oscars. Like,
oh yeah, damn. But yeah, no, no, good movie. Had a good time. The action was insane. A
lot of blood, a lot of blood. If you can't handle blood, do don't watch these kind of

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movies because they are definitely raw. They definitely want you to know what it was like
back then, which you know what I respect.
Yeah. So for that, I feel gladiator. These kind of movies should be seen on the big screen.
So I'd give it a $5 Tuesday.
Fair.

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And then after seeing this went and saw gladiator to like I said with my buddy Ryan. And I had
a really good time with this one. I think I might have actually liked it more than the
first. Yeah. Yeah, like honestly. Yeah, the cast was fantastic. I forget the main guy's

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name. I feel bad. But Pedro Pascal is amazing. Oh my God. He's playing the human torch. Oh
shit. I've Joseph Quinn. Yep. Yeah. So frickin him and his brother. I can't remember if they're

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in the movie. But him and his brother are now like the kings. I'm saying the right term,
right? Like, is it still kings in this in this era? Yeah. Or it'd be like, okay, an
emperor or something like that. I think it is emperor. Is it emperor? But I think so.

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Okay. I don't know. Maybe I could be wrong. I'm sure maybe someone will yell at us. Be
like, can't believe you got that wrong. Yeah. But like, since it had been like so long since
Maximus had died and all that stuff, like the Roman Empire is like still under. It's

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not as free as everybody wants it to be. It's under very how do I want to say this? Yeah.
It's under. There we go. It's under a certain power that I'm not going to touch upon because
don't want to talk about that kind of stuff here. But anyway, so it's under Joseph Quinn

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and his brother and frickin both of them are like one's more insane than the other. But the way
that they rule is so entertaining. And I frickin loved both of their performances, especially
and I feel bad for forgetting their names, but the brother that was not Joseph Quinn,

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he was frickin off the rails and I loved him for it. Denzel Washington was amazing as always. I
mean, Denzel, come on. And just yeah, like the action was on point. Kept my attention from
start to finish. Really, really solid sequel. I mean, it's insane that it had been 24 years

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in between the this and the first one. But I know, right? But they do a good job though,
at continuing the story. And I love that. Like if you, I mean, it's going to be all confusing as
hell if you haven't seen the first one. So like, if you ever do plan on watching this one, do
watch the first one because you're going to be lost, man. Okay. Yeah. I was actually just about

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to ask you like how important is it that you watch the first? Very, especially with the main
character. Yeah, you definitely want to know the past. Okay. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. But frickin,
the opening credits is like a retelling of the first one and super cool. It looks badass,

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but like, you know, like there's no like audio or anything. So like, I understood it. Ryan understood
it. But like, I can think like anyone that's never seen the first one, they're just like,
what the hell is going on? Oh, man. I'm so glad you said something because that's a move or this is
a movie that Brielle has been wanting to watch for a while. And I like, I want to take her to it.

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But I was, yeah. Okay. So good. I refresh your course for everyone. Yeah. Because like,
I looked it up a couple days ago, a couple days before we're going to go see it. And I'm just like,
okay, do you need to see the first one? And someone pointed out. So I got two answers. One's just
like, Oh, no, like, you know, like, maybe just know, like the characters from the first one,

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you'll be fine. And then the other one's just like, no, you need to understand where those
characters came from, where that first one took them to, and why it sets up where these characters
come into place. And yeah, it really does. Because you're going to be lost as all hell when you see
some familiar faces and you're just like, who the f is that? Okay, I guess a sorry, a familiar face.

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I don't I think there was just one character that came back from the first one. Okay, cool. Cool.
I'm so glad you said something about that. I would have gone in and be like, yo, what?
What? But yeah, no, I'd give gladiator to the same as the first $5 Tuesday, these are

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for how like frickin amazing the set pieces are the action. Coolest hell. Like I feel these are
movies that I don't say need to be like full price, but like at least see it on a big screen.
And go for a $5 Tuesday. Okay. So that's all I got though, for weekly watch. Caleb, what you got?

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So for those of you that didn't listen last week, I've been knocking out
Doctor Who, I am finally caught up a little ahead of schedule. I thought I was going to be,
I thought, listen, I thought I had more. I didn't realize the second season, the of the
of Jodie Whitaker's Doctor, I didn't realize that was going to be so short. And then the

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the specials were also like a little over an hour long. So I knocked it out pretty quick.
But yeah, so I finished that and I am actually 100% caught up on Doctor Who now.
I love the new guy that's playing him. I think he's one of the best.

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One of the best, truly. Like his performance is so solid. I think that they're getting,
they're touching the line of being a little too preachy, but I think they, they walk that line
fairly well. But just go, if you're going to go into it, just go in with that hesitation.

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But I don't think they've full blown cross that line other than the first
special that with the return of Tenet, that special was very preachy and I didn't care for it.
After that is fine. But yeah, so that's what I've been doing. And so today,

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after we got back from seeing Moana, we were trying to find a movie and I want to put something
Christmasy on. So I turned on that Christmas, which just came out on the fourth. So this is
literally as the day we are recording. This is like six days old and I didn't have the highest

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of hopes, but genuinely surprised. I think this is a very fun movie. I didn't quite finish it. I got
probably three quarters of the way through it. So the only reason I'm talking about it today is
because of how much fun that first portion was. Imagine if you ended up hating the ending. Oh my

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gosh, dude. Just kidding, guys. She gets enough of that to do. But no, this one's cool. It shows
Santa kind of go like it's like begins with Santa kind of going crazy. And then it kind of sets up
these characters with the kids and stuff and how everyone's Christmas kind of goes off the wall.

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Like one kid, his mom and dad are separated and so his dad's supposed to fly in for Christmas,
ends up not being able to. So he's without his dad on Christmas, his mom works at a hospital,

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so she has to take off on Christmas day. And so he's basically left alone for Christmas. And so
Santa knows that he's dealing with that. Then they got really interesting stories. Then they got one,
like these twins. One of them's like really good and one of them's really naughty.

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And so and then Santa makes a mistake and accidentally delivers, like leaves nothing for
the good twin, but leaves the presents for the naughty twin. And then like, yeah, and then shit
goes crazy there. And then there's another like a group of children where their parents are

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all going to a wedding. But then a blizzard comes and hits and so their parents aren't able to
get there for Christmas, like for Christmas morning. And they end up crashing their car
and shit into a snowbank and aren't able to. Listen, they don't die. They're not able to

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get there for Christmas. They're not able to get there for Christmas. They're not able to get there
for Christmas. And so they're like, well, they're stuck in the snowbank and aren't able to like,
listen, they don't die. But they run their car off the road and are stuck and no emergency

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services are available and all this. So they're basically just chilling out in the van
to no parents. And but Santa's left them like strategic gifts and like just to kind of help
with their their Christmas holiday and stuff. And super fun. Like this this version of Santa's

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interesting. But I've liked it. I liked it a lot. I think it's very fun. Definitely gets you in the
Christmas spirit. And it's very funnily written. Like some of the jokes that are in this are
fantastic. So yeah, I'm giving this a stream it. This is definitely one better to watch at home

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with the family. It doesn't need a big screen, but still definitely worth checking out. Yeah.
So that's all I got. Anything else for you on on weekly watch?
No. Well, I mean, just speaking of watching, I can't remember. Did I

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talk to you about that new Snow White in the Seven Dwarfs trailer? Did I mention that all to you?
I watched it.
Dude, if you, you know, I don't know if Pinocchio was ever going to be a theatrical release, but
it was a good call putting that on Disney+. I don't know who the hell thought that this should
have been released in theaters or made it all personally. True. I think they rough. They're so

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bad. They're so fugly, dude. Oh my gosh. There was no world where accurate looking dwarves were going
to be, we're going to work. No, not at all. Oh, man. And they're trying to mimic some of the shit

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that like the dwarves did in the OG, like with Dopey having the diamonds on his eyes and like,
I'm like, dude, don't, don't. I swear, dude, they're going to freaking and it's going to look so weird.
They're going to have bashful doing the classic. Oh, Gorsh. Oh, no, that's going to look so. Oh,
God, so bad. That's going to be nightmare fuel. I'm calling it when bashful does that.

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Probably, probably. Dude, I'll even say this. I don't even think the mirror looks good.
No, it doesn't. Like, I know that they were going for like super accurate, like,
like a one for one. It didn't work. I don't know how the hell they made it. So it didn't work,

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but it did not work. Oh, man, dude. I project one of the biggest flops in Disney history. I'm calling
it right now. That would not surprise me. I will be shocked in its opening weekend if it opens with
above a two in front of it. Above a two. Yeah. So like if it gets above 20 million, it's going to

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be very shocked. Bold. But I also don't disagree. So we're calling it right now on the Albrecht's
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs when it opens in March is not going to make over 20 million
dollars. OK, it's OK. It's not going to make like 30 million and above. It's going to be in the 20

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million range for opening weekend. So I'm going to be shocked. I'm going to be shocked. I'm going to
be shocked. It's going to be in the 20 million range for opening weekend. OK, what's the budget
for it? Oh, boy, it's pretty high, I think, for how many, you know, like reshoots they had to do.

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Let's see. Snow White, two, three. Why say two? I'll even make this bold and claim if it makes
reasonable number 40 or 50. Yeah. Like, would 50 be like an outstanding box office? Probably.
Like, but I don't know, because the budget is I mean, the budget's pretty high. What was the

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budget between 240 and 269 million? Oh, damn, they're so screwed. Yeah, so screwed.
All right. What is like what's this? What's the super average opening weekend?
For I know depends on what movie you're thinking.

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Because like if you're if you're like Disney, an average would be about 50 million. You like the
goal is always especially if it's like a movie coming out around the holidays, it's a known
property like your goal would be like 100 million above. Right. And so, yeah, like with like other

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movies, like average would probably be I would say like 30 to 40 million for an opening. OK.
How about this? If it ends up making over excuse me, over 40 on its opening weekend,

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we will we will break it down. I hate you.
Do you want to up to 50 like we can up to 50? Yeah, can we? OK, so if it makes above 50 million
dollars on its opening weekend only, not total, not total opening weekend only, we will suffer

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through that movie for you guys. Otherwise, we will probably just wait for it to come to streaming
and also probably wait for a period of time where we have nothing else to do. That will be the
biggest I refuse to see it any other day but five dollar Tuesday movie I've ever seen. It's like

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I'll be hitting them with coupons like I have not put any money towards this goddamn dude.
Freaking whenever Cinemark as I'm checking out, like if I'm doing it on five dollar Tuesdays
and they're just like, oh, do you want to use your movie credit? I'm like, no. Why do I want to use
a movie credit on a freaking five dollar Tuesday movie? Like, no, I'm going to save that for when

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I go to freaking see either a late night or an XT showing. Yeah, no joke. But yeah, I will.
We can make that claim. So that'll be the deal. If it makes above 50 or did we say 50 or do we stick
with 40? 45? Yeah, sure. Let's meet in the middle. Meet in the middle. 45. All right. I'm going to

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make a note of that. So if Snow White makes above 45 mil opening weekend, we have to break it down.
Oh, no. When does Snow White open? March something. Let's find out.

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So there's the release date. March 21st. March 21st. OK. So yeah, we will get back to you guys.
That's March 21st. Wait. Oh, so by the time we record on the 25th,
we will that will be like the result. What? Hold the frickin bone. No, no.

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Do you know who the director is? Who? Mark Webb. Mark Webb. The guy that did the two
Amazing Spider-Man movies. Dude. Yeah. Oh, no. No. Why, Mark? Why? How did you get suckered into

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that? Disney money, man. Does that mean we're getting Amazing Spider-Man 3? Was that his
dealmaker? Was that the train? Oh, no. Because I'll accept those terms.
Yeah. So if Snow White comes out the 21st, we will be able to come back. When does like the
technical opening weekend stop? Does that end Sunday? Yeah. So it'd be the 21st through the

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23rd. OK. So we record on the 25th that week. So we will be able to come back like immediately.
Or if we're ball. Oh, if we're ballsy enough. No. If it makes over the 45, then we record Snow White
on the 25th. Like whatever the episode is. So like that episode would get released March 31st.

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So whatever March 31st is, like whatever that episode is will be like basically the results of
our little bet that we. Yeah. OK. Oh, no. Gosh, dude. Dude, how much are you going to stress if it
makes if it's like sitting at 44 when you go to sleep Sunday night? Thanks for the question.

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I mean, I guess not, thankfully, because, you know, I literally it's like the thing that I look
forward to every single Sunday movie math with Grace Randolph. And so by usually Sunday morning,
like mid morning, early afternoon, they actually will know how it's going to end up. Like they're

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they're really good at projecting that kind of shit. So like I'll be sure to text you.
Sunday by noon your time. I'm going to. Yeah. I fully expect to get cussed out that day.
You son of a bitch. Oh, man. That will be fun. That will be. Yeah. Just now that we've got a bet,

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at least there's something worth looking forward to when it comes to that movie. Fair enough.
Holy shit. All right. All right. Well, let's say we get into this this week's breakdown.
Let's do it. Hell yeah. All righty. Like we said, this week's breakdown is going to be a lot more

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exciting. All righty. Like we said this week, we will be breaking down Moana to not it's not
a Christmas movie, but we're in the Christmas spirit right now. So that's why I got we got
the Christmas theme going on. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought you were going to say that we said that

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they were that we were doing a Christmas movie this week. And I swear we'd said that we were
doing Moana, too. I thought. Yeah. I don't know. I just with all the other movies that we were doing,
like, I don't think Sonic 3 is going to end up being a Christmas movie. Hey, you never know.
I I know. Like maybe surprised there. But yeah, I mean, we got frickin Moana. We got

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a Kraven next week and then we're doing Sonic sometime after. Yeah. Like to be determined.
Yes. But yeah, like no Christmas movies this year. And last year we had some like we had
some good movies. I think we did a couple of new ones. Yeah, I think we did. I mean, dude,

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honestly, the only what the only Christmas movies that I can think of that came out this year in
theaters were Red One and wasn't the best Christmas pageant ever or something. Yeah. Yeah.
That's that's all I can think of. I heard one sucked and the air was actually decent. Like it
was good. So I'm assuming Red One sucked. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I've heard like like critics

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destroyed it, but critics can go shove it up their ass. I know. But then like audience were just like,
oh, you know, it actually it wasn't that bad. But frickin so Sammy was telling me that her company
was having a holiday party and they were showing a movie at Megaplex. And so, you know, they brought

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all all the employees to Megaplex and they were going to show a Christmas movie. She was telling
me, I pray that it is not Red One. Was that today? No, this was a couple of weeks ago. A couple of
weeks ago. What movie was it? It was Elf, actually. Oh, yeah. The sigh of relief.

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It would be so funny if it was Red One. You just hear a collective, God damn it.
Coming from. I get a Snapchat from her. This is bullshit. Oh, man.
All right. Well, if you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different
categories that we individually score to come to a final Albrose letter grade. The eight categories

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that we score are story writing, acting, character development, effects, music, costumes. And we give
it our own personal score with this being an animated movie, though we will be replacing
effects with animation and then costumes will be replacing with character design.

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So with that, if you have not seen Moana 2, spoilers ahead. And I think this is one that
could be easily spoiled. Yes. Like, I'm glad that I didn't see any clips online before I
went and saw it. The only thing that like, and I had swiped really fast on TikTok from it was

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someone was showcasing the villain song, but I've never swiped faster in my life.
Yeah. So, yeah, if you have any interest in seeing this one, we would press pause because
we are going to begin in this spoiler territory here. Yes. So if you listen beyond this point,

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on the other hand, and anything spoiled for you, it's your own damn fault. Yeah. Damn right.
Yeah. So we will be posting that spoiler warning now. You have been probably the first
to hear a spoiler warning. I'm sorry. I was going to say, I apologize right now if I mess

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up some of these names. Dude, when I was watching this, I'm like, this reading with Rose is going
to be incredible. Screw you, man. We don't want to turn it into a reading with Caleb.
Not with this movie. Oh, well, that brings us to our favorite segment that we like to call

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reading with Rose. All right. Three years after her adventure with the demigod Maui and the island
goddess Te Fiti, Moana spends her days exploring other islands near her home island of Mata Nui
in the hope of finding people connected to the ocean. In a vision, her ancestor Tatua Vasa

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reveals why none of those people are connected anymore. The malicious storm god Nalo wanted
power over the mortals, so he sunk a legendary island called Mata Fitu,
which connected all islands down to the depths of the ocean.
Tauta, you know what? I'm just going to say it how I think it is. Tauta?

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Further warns that the people of the island are connected to the ocean.
Yeah. Further warns that the people of Mata Nui will go extinct in the future if Moana cannot
find a way to raise Mata Fitu. She assembles a crew of people from Mata Nui, clever craft woman
Loto, historian and Maui fanboy Mone, and grumpy elderly farmer. So it says Kiki, but I'm seeing

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like in cast listing, it's Keely, I think. I can tell you his name for the life of me.
Let me double check. Like even with it in the movie, dude. No dude, I was the same way.
I was so bad with names. Yeah, on the cast list it says it's Keely.

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So okay, I go with Keely. I assume Wikipedia is wrong. Yeah. So grumpy elderly farmer Keely,
alongside her pet pig and rooster Pua and Heihei, to follow the path of a meteor across the ocean
towards Mata Fitu. It's Mata Fitu, right? No, Mata Fitu? Yeah. Okay. I love how I said like,

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oh yeah, I'm not going to ask. I'm just going to say it how I think it is. Meanwhile, Maui is
seeking Mata Fitu himself since he had a previous quarrel with Nalo, but he is captured by Nalo's
enforcer Mataji. Sure, Mataji. Mataji. Mataji. Maui is reluctant to contact Moana as he fears she may

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not survive if she comes to help. Moana and her crew are captured by the Kakamora, a tribe of
savage coconut-like pirates previously encountered by Moana, who reveal that Nalo's actions against
Mata Fitu had caused them to be disconnected from their home island. One member of the Kakamora,
Koutou, helps the crew paralyze a gargantuan monster clam inside of which is Mataji's lair.

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I really hope I don't have to say that word again, but I probably will have to.
Yeah, a few times. God damn it. While the crew finds Maui, Moana meets Mataji and learns that
she is not happy serving Nalo, she helps Moana escape and reunite with Maui and her friends
before sending them to where Nalo is. Maui warns that Nalo's realm is deadlier compared to the

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mortal realm and that fighting him will spell certain death for mere mortals. Nalo's monsters
ambush the group, damaging their raft and washing them ashore on an isolated island. Moana begins to
despair, but Maui encourages her to keep on going. With Moana revitalized, the group plans to have
Maui raze the island so that Moana can touch it, as that is the only way to restore Mata Fitu

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and stop Nalo. Her crew repairs her raft, but when the group ventures forth to confront Nalo,
they encounter a gigantic storm. Moana, realizing that Nalo is trying to stop the humans from
breaking the curse, asks Maui to lift the island enough for her to touch it. As Maui begins to pull
up the island with his giant hook, Nalo strips Maui of his demigod status with a lightning bolt.

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Moana, in a moment of desperation, dives into the ocean to touch the island underwater.
Just as Moana succeeds, Nalo's lightning bolt kills her. Maui jumps in after her body and,
with a magical chant, summons the spirits of Tatui, Vasa, and Moana's ancestors, including
her grandmother Tala, who help revive her as a demigoddess, with Moana gaining a Wayfinder's

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Tatu. Maui, having also regained his powers as a demigod, finally razes Mata Fitu and helps
Moana reconnect the people with the ocean. The crew returns home to Mata Nui, leading a flotilla
of the peoples of the ocean, and a celebration is held in Moana's honor. In a mid-credit scene,
Nalo plans his revenge and is about to punish Mataji for helping Moana when the giant crab,

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Tamatoa, arrives to join his cause. Oh man, that was a mouthful.
Oh yeah, that was fun. Oh man, dude, this was so good.
It was. Yeah, I don't get the hatred. I really don't. People are calling this a bad sequel. No,

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this is a very good sequel. A very good sequel. Dude, this got me, this got me hit, like it
freaking hit my heartstrings something awful a few times. Dude, same here. Like, yeah, like, first of

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all, Moana's little sister, oh my gosh, she was so adorable. Oh my, dude, I would die for her. I love
when Maui got to Mata Nui, and she immediately freaking grabs his ear, and he's like, yep,
that's the one. Oh, so great. Oh, she was so freaking cute. But dude, like, this story was

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rock solid. Like, I wasn't sure where they were going to go with this, because it's just like,
all right, you've kind of, like, where are we going here? Like, you've restored Te Fiti,
and like, I didn't even think or like consider that there would be like other gods and stuff.

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You know, I didn't either, and I can't, I can't remember if they touched upon in the first one
with there being other, like other people out there, like other tribes. I don't know if they did.
Yeah, so like, I think that's a great idea for a sequel, and how, because if they don't discover

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that, that will literally kill Mata Nui, Mata Nui? Mata Nui. Mata Nui, thank you. And literally,
that will just be the end of their story. The fact that it's, you know, Moana has to listen to this
call from the ancestors, bring not only her tribe together, but try to find all these other ones,

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is really solid story. And I love that this time she didn't go alone. Like, don't, don't get me wrong,
I love that the first one is just Moana and Maui, like, love that. But I loved the three
additions that they had when it came to the team, because all of them were great.
Yeah. You know, this, like the vibe it gave me, it was like the same vibe that I got from

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Buzz's team in Lightyear. Yeah, that's true. Like that, that's just like the total vibe that I got
from everyone. And it was so much fun. Like you got your cranky elder, you got like your super
excited, like, like smart person. You got your, your, your big imbecile. And then, yeah. And then

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your main like leader, obviously being Moana. Like it is so much fun, dude. It was so much fun.
And I love that. I love that there his or her team is the one that ran into Maui first.
Like I thought that was a creative little snippet. And that it was, it was Hey Hey,

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that gave it away that it was Moana. I loved watching, gosh, forget his name.
Sorry, one second. Is it the fanboy? Yeah, Mony. I love it. Freaking just yeah, fanboying over Maui.
Freaking like already had all those drawings ready. And freaking when the the tinkerer or the,

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yeah, let's call her, I forget her name too. I'm sorry. Loto, how she is able to create a new sale
once she kind of hits the fan. And Moana's just like, Oh, yeah, thank you so much. And she's like,
don't thank me. Thank freaking Mony for having all these drawings ready to go.

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Dude, that was freaking perfect. I love that like Maui finally got like the person he was
expecting to save him from the ocean. Yeah. So good. And, oh man, like I loved it, dude. Like
the story was so much fun. It made sense. It felt like it had stakes to it. It did. Like, especially

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because like you pointed out with the first one, there was didn't seem like there was a lot of
places that you could go. And the fact that this was a Disney plus series at first, but then they
decided, you know, we have a solid enough story here that I think that we can actually make this
into a full blown sequel and absolutely agree. I think this was the best call that they could have
made. And so most sequels, I feel they can be hit and miss. And some don't do a great job of continuing

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the story. They usually are just doing the sequels to one, two, three, four, five, six,
and one make more money. And also, so you can see these characters you love. This was one of those
sequels that like personally, it's not like one of the greatest sequels I've ever seen, but

(45:12):
it has a good story. You see a lot of familiar faces. Like I freaking smiled hard when Moana
and Maui got reunited. Loved seeing those characters together again. Yeah. And so like
the story to me, while not as, you know, strong, maybe as the first one,

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it's still a worthy follow-up to that one. It's still a very solid, good sequel story-wise.
Just, yeah, like I agree with Cale. Don't really have any problems. Just really solid story,
bleh, solid story for a sequel. Like bravo. Like this is how you do a continuation.

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Yeah. Like they tied in enough of the first that that was super fun. Like when they brought the
Kakamora back in, I was like, dude, I love these guys. And I just, I love them. Sorry. Before like,
you know, like they, you know, he's, oh my God, I'm going to get these names. Mone,

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he, you know, like he tells the story of what they're seeing. Like, you know, they pull it up
and he's just like, oh yeah, that's just fan fiction. That was so good. Oh man. There's also
another line that I'll point out with writing, but I'm just like, hey, I really liked that fourth
wall break. That was good. Dude. I love the Kakamora like in this. And dude, when he, when that one that

(46:53):
was with him, what was his name? Kotu. When he freaking cut the rope, I was like, yo, this
it's going hard. Yeah. Like, yeah, that was insane. Dude. I love that. Like, cause like you didn't know
like, or he didn't like, no one knew like they just thought that they were going to get eight.

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Like no one fricking knew that that was going to happen. Like he sacrificed himself and this
fricking like band of like basically incompetent people for the sake of his whole, um, of his,
of his people. And I'm like mad respect, bro. Yeah. True that dude. And also the fricking

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poison, hilarious. Yeah, that was great. Yeah. It was the, the fricking love that they were trying to
like explain the situation to like, to Moana and the team and they're like limp. And so they're all
being like held up by the, the Kakamora and I thought that was so funny. And then the, the fricking

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like slime of that creature and the snot of it or both the antidote and the, the, the, the poison,
the toxin, whatever. Yeah. I love that dude. I thought that was so funny. Yeah, that was hilarious.
Oh man. Like I love when it sneezed at any time it got, when it got Kakamora, they just like,

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they freeze and just drop. Oh, that was so funny. So fricking funny. And then I found the,
the, the bat lady. What, what was her name? The, um, Matanji. Yeah. I found her little story and

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like her connection to Moana to be super interesting. Yes, definitely. Like I would
say, I was afraid that she was going to be just like some other like stereotypical bad guy,
which it's honestly same. I was, no, so I was, I was waiting for her to fricking like, um,

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turn against Moana, but like, not helping you. Yeah. I'm so glad that didn't happen. Yeah. It
was the, uh, it was kind of like another like mini Te Fiti twists. Yeah.
And I love that. I like that, that Nalo is the only one that has like that stereotypical like

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bad guy vibe that, oh, I just hate humans. Like I hope they like, I hope they come up with a good
reason for him to hate humans. And it's not just like, he just feels like he's been that they're
beneath him or some bullshit like that. Like I want him to have like a genuine reason to hate.
No, I'm, I agree. Um, I'll bet you money that they'll announce Moana three, um, either early

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by the end of this year or early next year for how successful that the sequel was, or honestly still
is fricking 600 million and less than a month. Um, yeah, like Moana three is Moana three is
inevitable. Like come on. Oh yeah. And they set it up flawlessly. Like here it's like, all right,

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now we know what, where it can go from here. Yeah. So I, I'm super glad that, that they were able to
pull that off because like, like we said with the first, it's just like, okay, where do we go?
Yeah. And I don't think the teaser did this movie justice whatsoever. Yeah, I would agree.

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Like, like it wasn't bad. Like, like none of the trailers I feel were bad. Oh, no, no, no. It's
just like, they were so vague. Yeah. Which I mean, personally now after seeing it, uh, that might
have been a good thing because I liked walking into this movie and being as surprised as I was
for how the story unfolded. So cause I can appreciate the marketing team for that.

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Yeah. Um, dude, making Moana, uh, Demi goddess stroke of genius. That was so freaking bad ass.
Oh, freaking when her tattoo appeared, I'm just like, ah, hell yeah. Like that is awesome. Nope.
Um, I was, I was curious how they were going to handle Maui though. Like I was, cause when his

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tattoos disappeared, I was like, okay, like, here we go. Yeah. Is Moana going to be the one to raise
the island or, but, uh, yeah, I think they handled that fricking beautifully. Uh, I wish they would
have been a little bit more clear about what her, uh, about her, uh, about her, uh, about her,
uh, abilities were. That's fair. Um, hopefully they, uh, touch more upon than the third one.

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Yeah. Cause it seemed like all she did was she stuck her or in the water and then it just kind
of lit a pathway. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, cool. She was already navigating by the stars though.
True. So like she's got to have some more perks now that she's a Demi God, right? Like, come on.
Yeah. Like is the ocean a little bit better or like easier to control or something like that? Like

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does she not need the wind? Like we got some questions here. Yeah. But giving her, uh,
just like a super magic Dow or was awesome. Yeah. Just love her. Perfection.
Absolute perfection. I'm so, I'm so glad that they did that. Same here. Um, but yeah, like this was

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very well paced. Like there, there were like no real slow moments. And I feel like the moments
that I would, I would have normally considered slow, they were able to make seem faster paced
than they were. No, that's fair. Like, um, when it comes to the first one, love the first one.

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Um, I feel one moment that I feel like maybe the movie just slows down a little bit. And maybe it's
just cause I don't love the song is, uh, when we're introduced to, um, shit, what's the crab's name
again? Oh, and the first, yeah. Uh, Toma Toa, Toma Toa. Thank you. Um, when we're introduced to him

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and, you know, the, do the whole shiny song, the movie kind of slows down and stops for me a little
bit. Maybe it's just, I don't love that scene, um, or that song. Whereas with this movie, kind of,
you know, like back in a cave got, got the villains song going on. Maybe it's just because I liked her
song better than, um, his at no point did it feel like, oh, okay. Like the movie's taken a halt for

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me. Can we, can we pick it back up again? Like let, let's, uh, let's start this ride back up again.
But it didn't feel that way. And the second one, dude, her song was sick. Easily my favorite of
the movie. I can't decide which my favorite one was, but I mean, shows that this actually was a,

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was a very good soundtrack. Oh yeah. Super solid soundtrack. The only one that I feel felt sure
was Maui's new song. I did not really funny. Cause I, I actually really liked Maui's song.
Yeah. Which we'll get into later, but, um, just getting into it story wise though,

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this was really well paced. It was really well told, super interesting story. I'm
probably sitting in the nineties with this one. Oh damn. Yeah. Like I, I'm trying, I didn't have
any real issues with the story. Like I probably like 92, it was, I feel it was, it was that strong

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of a story. I think I'm just going to be a little bit below you. I'm sorry. I can't crack nineties
fully. Um, but like, I'm like right there. Um, so, you know what, for how much I like the story,
I'm going to go in 89. Fair enough. All right. Next up we got writing, which this is the one

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that I struggled getting into the nineties. So like straight out of the gate, I'm at like an 89
with this one. Okay. That's yeah. That's fair. Like don't get me wrong. The writing was really
well done. It helped with the story. I do feel like some of the dialogue was a little on the

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blander side in some cases. Yeah. No, I can totally get behind that. Um, I feel, um, well, I mean,
one line that I just like, I was talking about earlier about the fourth wall break and I loved
it. And it's, uh, when Maui says, he says like something about like, oh, go get him, like, uh,

(56:38):
cur curly, my curly hair princess or some shit like that. And she's like, I'm not a princess
and fricking his tattoo looks, looks, uh, I don't know. So I had, that was good.
Fourth wall break. That was true. Yeah. That was a super solid fourth wall break. Yeah. I forgot

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about that one. I was thinking of the, uh, that when he was talking and being like, are you sure
that the gods didn't just like, but dial you. And then he like turns to the team and he's like,
that's going to be funny in like 2000 years or fricking, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

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the old guy, I feel bad for just calling him that. But, um, when he says, you know, Maui looks like
he, when, you know, Maui's wrapped up and I don't know exactly what that was, but he's like, you
look like kidney stone. Now he's just like, well, you look like someone would actually know what
that is. Yeah. There were some, there were definitely some solid one-liners. No, definitely.

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Um, but I'm with you. The, the writing's definitely not as solid as the story. Um, so, you know, I'll
just say my writing, um, score right now as well, give writing an 86. So, um, but, uh, like,
I don't know, like there was never a moment where, whether it came from, I mean, you know,

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cause like some of these characters are brand new. So, you know, like we can't compare to what they
would say in the first one, but like, when it came to anything that came out of Moana's mouth,
Maui's mouth, the chief, his wife, um, like none of it came out, none of it sounded out of place for
the characters. So, uh, I will say, I do appreciate that. Like they didn't try to freaking like do a

(58:29):
360 on any of these characters, um, which, which I really appreciated. Um, I love that Maui had to
point out that, uh, you know, Moana was wearing a different outfit in, uh, this movie and he's just
like, and I've been wearing a grass skirt for thousands of years. I was like, I wish you would
have told us about the costume change. Yeah. I think it would have felt weird had they put him

(58:51):
in anything else. True. Like Moana makes sense. She has like a, a higher title in her village.
Uh, yeah. So it, like the, the costume changed tracks. Yeah. And it looked great. I loved her
new costume. Oh yeah. It was so good. Um, but yeah, writing, writing was, was solid. Yeah.

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All right. Moving on over to acting. Oh, I am going to butcher her name so bad.
Don't worry. I still do too. I think it's Ali. He Ali. He. Yeah. Ali. He Kravola Kravola Kravolo
Kravolo man. Ali. He Kravolo. I think that's how you say it. Okay. Cool. She voiced Moana.

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So you're not going to try that again. Yeah. Uh, we got Dwayne Johnson who voice
or came back to voice Maui. Oh, good Lord. Do you, how do you think I felt typing these out?
Uh, we got Huala, Huala Lay Chung who voice Mone. Rose Matafeo who voices Loto. David Fane who

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voices Keely. Oh, God damn it. Uh, Khaleesi Lambert Su voices Simea, which is a Moana's youngest,
our younger sister, little sis. Those moments were so cute. Big sis, little sis. Oh my gosh. My heart.
Uh, Ahime Frazier who voices Matangi. Easily my new favorite character of this. Yeah. Yeah.

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Oh, amazing. Same here. Like obviously not counting the, the Kukumori or Mora. I freaking love those,
those little guys. Uh, then we got Timora Morrison who is Chief Tui. Uh, Nicole Scherzinger who

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voices Sina. Uh, Rachel House who voices Grandma Tala and that's it. Yeah. So I have a feeling our
top three is going to look pretty similar. Probably, but you might, I might surprise you. Um,

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so number one, Alihi Krivalo. Um, once again, she's incredible as this character. I love her so much
as this character. Um, and I know with the animated show or the Disney plus series that they
were doing, they had different voices for Moana and Maui. Um, and like, I feel bad. Yeah. Um, I,

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I mean, I'm sure they just didn't, they didn't want to pay, um, Alihi and Dwayne to come back
for a series. And I feel bad that the, you know, the two actors that played them in the series lost
out to jobs to these two, but I'm sorry. No one else can play Moana and Maui, especially Moana,
like Alihi Krivalo. I love her so much. Uh, like I said, in, in this role. And once again,

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she was incredible. Um, just, she hits every single beat that she needs to with this voice,
from the emotional parts to the fricking singing, just everything is incredible with her. So easily
number one. Yeah, totally agree. Uh, number two, Dwayne Johnson. Uh, he was fantastic coming back

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as Maui. Um, unlike Caleb, I liked his new song. Um, but yeah, no, he, he, he was just fantastic.
Um, I remember with the first one, it took me a minute to get used to his voice coming out of
Maui, like just cause he really doesn't disguise his voice. And you know, like sometimes that's

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fine with an actor, but like sometimes that's all you can hear. Um, but thankfully with this one,
you know, because with the first one, that's what I needed to get used to that. I didn't see the
rocket all, all I saw was Maui. So that, that was great. Um, but yeah, no, he, he, he was fantastic.
And just, it, I, it made me smile so hard seeing these two reunite on screen. Um, I, I, for,

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it made sense for the story, but it would have been cool if they would have reunited earlier,
but story-wise and what they, what they, uh, told made complete sense. So I was totally fine with it.
Yeah. A total side note. What do you think of how he looks for the live action?

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Oh, I, um, I'm one, I don't understand why they want to do a Moana live action when the movie,
the first one is not even a decade old, like no joke, dude, like at least with how to turn your
dragon, that's like, at least that's a decade. Like that, that I can understand that one.

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Yeah. And we're pretty well separated from the last one to come out too.
That's true. Yeah. Because that one came out in what, like 2018?
Yeah. When's the live action Moana supposed to come out?
I think next year or two. No, I think it's 2026.
Let me see. Yeah. Maybe if you want to check.

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Are they just calling that shit Moana?
Probably.
Shit. Yeah. 2026.
Okay.
So two, two year.
Okay. So, okay, wait. So if it's in 2026, then that means that it will come out the year that

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Moana officially turned 10 years old then. Still too soon, dude.
Yeah. Oh, I agree. And, uh, the, like, I know that they're trying and I'm sure Dwayne Johnson
is really trying to make Maui work in live action, but I'm, I'm not digging it. Like maybe when I
actually see footage of it, but the behind the scenes, it's not working for me.

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Yeah. This kind of feels like a bit of money grab on the rocks part.
It does. Honestly, you know what? I know he wants to say, um, you know, screen accurate,
but in this instance, I'd be fine if Maui was bald because he does not look good with that wig.

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I'm pulling it up again. Cause it is, I love that I have to specify the live action.
I don't think the wig is the worst part. All right. What is the worst part?
I couldn't tell you. It's like, I don't know. Like everything.

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Fair.
Like the, I mean, if they're going for like a screen accurate portrayal, they're doing a lot
of shit here. And I know why they're doing it too. I don't feel like they were able to like,
hide hit like the seam on the suit well enough. So that's why they gave Maui bracers.

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Yeah, that's fair.
The necklace is off. Like with him, it's like, it has like different teeth,
shark teeth and whatnot. Like his necklace here, it looks like it's all the same creature.
Like it's very symmetric. And I'm like, no Maui's necklace is not symmetric like that.
Yeah.

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The, the tattoos too. Like, I don't know. I don't know.
The, the tattoos too. Like the tattoos like stop like at the elbow. And I'm like, no, he's got
tattoos going all the way down to his wrists.

(01:07:04):
Yeah.
It's goofy. And I'm like, and the rock wasn't big enough on his own. You needed to throw him
in a muscle suit.
Yeah. No, like seriously, like the, the
arguably the most jacked man that I've ever seen still has to wear a muscle suit.

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Yeah. And also his skirt is too long.
Yeah, that's fair.
Like, like, listen, I'm not calling for like booty shorts or nothing, but his leaves should
not be going past his knees. Like they should be like mid thigh, like boxing,

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uh, not boxing shorts, boxing shorts are long, like UFC shorts where they're like
above the knee. Like that, that, I don't know.
Yeah.
The whole movie feels, feels cash grabby and I don't care for 100%.
I don't either. I'll tell you what live action movie I'm actually interested in and they better

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not F it up because this Disney movie I hold, sorry. I hold near and dear in my heart, Lilo
and Stitch.
Dude.
They, they are walking a fine line and they've been doing good so far. They've been doing good so far.
The, the, the design of Stitch is great. You got the original voice back who also directed the

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original movie. Yeah. Like, so, and the little girl they picked for Lilo, she looks adorable.
Um, so yeah, like so far you're on the right track, Disney, please don't F it up, please.
Stick the landing bitches.
This is the one live action movie. You already messed it up for me with Pinocchio.

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This is the last live action movie you get for me before I'm just like, no F you like Pinocchio and
Lilo and Stitch way up there.
With me for classic Disney films. And so yeah, if you F up Lilo and Stitch, we're done. We are done.

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Done, done. Shit. All right. Anyway, getting back to, to acting.
Who's your, who's your number? Cause I agree with you on number two.
It was very close though. It was very, he was very close to getting booted. But he was very close.
He was very close to getting booted from two.

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Really? Damn. Yeah. Um, number three, I think, I think we're going to be different. Um, because I
would give number three, uh, to, uh, uh, Mony.
Dude, you are so on point.
Oh, really? Yeah. He's, he's my number three and like, really. Oh, I thought he almost

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pushed Dwayne off of two. That's fair. Oh dude, straight. I thought you were going to give it to,
um, what's her name? Uh, oh, uh, Matangi. Yeah. That, yeah. I thought you were going to give it to her.
Listen, she's a close number four. Yeah. But I don't think she was in it enough to

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outshine him. That's fair. No, that's fair. Um, yeah. Freaking amazing job. Like watching him fanboy
over Maui was just hilarious. Um, and like freaking how psyched he was to join Moana.
Um, it was great. He did, he did a great job. Like definitely my favorite addition, uh, to the sequel.

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Yeah. I think the only bit like that he was, that he was going or that he was, uh, doing that I
didn't think he quite sold was when he was talking about how Moana needed like a big strong
person to be on the team and all that while he was throwing a log over his shoulder. Shit.

(01:11:14):
Uh, yeah. Like his voice just sounded like he was implying it should be him. And I was like,
like, yes, it should be. But like the way that he was so surprised when she's just like, yeah,
you and he's like, I think he should have played it off as a little bit more sarcastic. Like,
what? Me? I couldn't, let's go. Yeah. Like freaking pull a freaking, uh,

(01:11:41):
Glinda, like come with me. I couldn't possibly, this is your moment. I'm coming.
Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, this cast was so good. It was so, so good.
You know, everyone did a fantastic job. Yeah. I don't listen. I don't know if anyone like
blew me out of the water or anything. That's fair. Yeah. I can definitely agree with you there.

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Yeah. I'm a little more of the above average on this one. Like I'm probably sitting at like an 86.
Like I said, I don't think any, I don't think anyone blew me out of the water.
Like everyone's performance was good. It fit the tone. I don't think anyone was trying to outshine

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the other. Like it felt good. Like very consistent across the board. Yeah. So yeah, I'm at an 86,
just a point higher than my above average grade. No, that's fair. Um, I think I'm just going to be

(01:12:54):
just a little above you just by one point. Um, you know, actually no, Lee Gravallo pushes me up
just a little bit. So I'm going 88. Fair. All right. Next up we got character development,
which obviously we need to do this one off of Moana. And I think like this, the team as a whole

(01:13:17):
could work, but I think Moana was, gosh, this is where I had a hard time with this. Cause Moana
was very consistent throughout. True. I don't think she had a whole lot of growth either, which way,
other than kind of becoming a teacher. Like she was, she was accepting of this new title, like

(01:13:40):
very willingly. She was excited to take this, like this new challenge on like happy, more than happy
to help her, her, um, her Island or her village and everything. And so I think the only piece of
real growth that she got was from that, that song of Matongis who said just that she needed to

(01:14:05):
look at things in a different way. And so I think that kind of helped her like picture like, oh,
there's more than one way to get to the Island when she went diving for it. Yeah. Yeah. That's
a good point. Yeah. So I think this is probably one of the weaker points of the movie. They,
it was still good. Yeah. No, it definitely, it, it, it, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was

(01:14:33):
really, it, it, it didn't change who she was, um, from the first one into the second one. And it
just, yeah, she definitely stayed at a state, stayed, she mostly stayed at a stay still. I
don't know. I know there's a word I'm sorry for, I don't know what it is. And we got just a little
bit of growth, but I agree with you. It's definitely one of the weaker aspects of the movie.

(01:14:58):
Yeah. This one, I don't even, I don't think it quite cracked eighties for me. Like I'm probably
at 79. Yeah, man. I think I'm going to match you there. Definitely. Yeah. Unfortunately,
like this was more story-driven than it was like character driven. Yes, absolutely. Which is totally

(01:15:24):
fine. I mean, you gave us pretty decent development with the first. It's just true. So I mean, it
happens. It definitely happens. Definitely. All right. Moving on over to animation.
Oh, all right. I'm curious how the animation looked in the show or how it was, was going to look

(01:15:46):
compared to this, because animation was just as incredible as the first one. Um,
I would actually disagree with you on that. Really? I thought it was at the same level.
I don't think it was really. Listen. Okay. Listen, quality wise. Yes. Like I think it was very

(01:16:06):
consistent with the first, but the first movie had a lot of like, very like just eye popping scenes.
Like I'm thinking of when she's like walking to Te Fiti, like after the oceans, like

(01:16:27):
basically been broken and she's walking in like that slow motion with all the water above her,
like that epic scene. And I felt like they had a couple of those throughout the movie. Like they
had a few of those like really epic, like grand scenery shots. Yeah. I think they had a couple of

(01:16:47):
those. Yeah. I think they missed out on giving us some of those. All right. Fair enough. Like
there was one that I was really looking forward to seeing. I don't know where I saw it. It might
have been in a trailer or something, but it was like while her, her boat and everything was going
up a wave and then it was just, it looked fricking magical. But, and I was, I was so ready for that.

(01:17:13):
Once the final confrontation was happening and we didn't get that. And then like, I think you
could have had like the same deal, like some really cool slow motion shots with like the lightning.
Like when they're like looking at the storm. That's right. Cause I mean, they, they frigging had the

(01:17:34):
lightning slo mo when she first gets hit at her, a village. Yeah. I mean, that was all right. I
I think they could have done better,
at least given us a cooler looking thing about it.
Because it was just so,
we just see the lightning coming through the roof
and then that was kind of it.
And then it was coming at her, I guess, too.

(01:17:56):
But I think we could have gotten something else.
I think it would have been cool to have it panned out
from, I think you could have had the hut that they were in,
have it panned out so you can kind of see everyone gathered.
You still see Moana and the chief sitting across

(01:18:20):
from each other and whatnot.
Maybe she's a little bit more centered in the shot.
And then you could have had the slow motion
of the lightning coming through the roof.
With freaking slow mo rain and everything.
I think that missed opportunity there.
That would have been pretty cool.

(01:18:42):
Yeah, I think there was just a few of those epic shots
that were missing.
But the quality wise, while everything was in motion,
all that, the quality was there.
It just didn't blow me away like the first one did.
That's fair.
It still does.
I still like chills whenever Moana's walking

(01:19:05):
through the water like that.
I'm like, oof.
Yeah, no, that's fair.
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
The freaking everything with the water in this one
and the first one is still amazing
with what they do in this one.
But I think maybe it's just because it's a bigger boat now.
Whenever they would have to maneuver with sailing,

(01:19:28):
ropes going this way, pushing the whatever the hell,
steering wheel, I guess, steering whatever,
that certain way, it just looked a lot more freaking cooler
in my opinion than the first one,
probably because it was a lot bigger of a ship.
And so you had to have a lot more moving parts.

(01:19:48):
So I will give a little bit of points
to the animation for that.
When it came to sailing,
I think this movie looked just a little cooler.
Fair.
Yeah, my critiques on it don't really diminish
from the quality too much, at least points wise.

(01:20:11):
It's more just a critique on the movie.
I wish that they would have had more
of those epic sceneries.
That's fair.
I'm trying to think of one that would have looked
really cool.
I think definitely they should have had one
where it was like you could see the face in the clouds,

(01:20:32):
like on that storm.
Oh yeah, that would have looked awesome.
Yeah, like you could have had one of those deals going on.
Like I think that would have been sick.
Animation though, I'm probably,
probably an 89, like really close to cracking 90.
And I probably would have cracked 90
if they would have given me more of those shots

(01:20:56):
that I was talking about.
All right, you know, honestly,
I think I am gonna crack 90,
which is like, I feel that the animation
was just as good as the first one.
The sailing looked a lot cooler.
So I think I'm just gonna be just like two points

(01:21:19):
above yet at 91.
Fair.
All right, next we got music.
This is a tough one.
It is because me and Caleb were talking about this
before we started.
I don't, I mean, me personally,
I don't think it's as strong or as,
or maybe the songs aren't as catchy as the original.

(01:21:42):
That's exactly what I was gonna say.
I think overall quality goes to this soundtrack.
Yeah.
But the first one has more bangers.
It does, which it's crazy that I saw that the songwriters,
or at least some of the songwriters from the first one

(01:22:02):
actually came back for the songs for this one.
It shows.
Yeah, but definitely this movie missed Lin-Manuel Miranda.
It was definitely missing him a little bit.
Not me like knocking the soundtrack hardcore,

(01:22:22):
like the songs in here are good,
but unfortunately there isn't one that is as strong
as how far I'll go.
And so it's unfortunate that Lin-Manuel Miranda
had gotten signed on for Mufasa,

(01:22:42):
The Lion King to write the music for that
before they decided to make Moana 2 into an actual sequel
instead of the Disney Plus series.
So he was already working on that.
And so he couldn't come back for Moana 2,
but I'm glad that some of the songwriters came back
and I feel for what they set out to do.

(01:23:03):
I still do think that they did a really good job
with the soundtrack.
There are still some catchy songs.
All the songs make sense.
And yeah, I still think it's a good soundtrack.
Yeah, I agree.
I think what was holding Moana back
from being like a 10 out of 10,

(01:23:24):
actually I don't even know, did we grade Moana?
I don't think we did.
And there went Caleb.
Hey, there he is.
Don't know what happened there.
Yeah.
Dude, that is a, so yeah, Moana came out in 2016.
So we started the podcast in 2017.

(01:23:47):
So we just missed Moana.
Darn.
Yeah, like this is what I'll say.
I think the one thing that was keeping Moana
from being a 10 out of 10 was the shiny song.
Absolutely.

(01:24:07):
100% agree.
Like that song was just was bad enough to bring down
an otherwise killer soundtrack down a point.
So it feels so out of place.
It does.
It so does.
Dude, I had a minor like, oh no moment
when that character came back in the mid credit scene.

(01:24:30):
I was like, ah, shit.
Not you again.
God damn it.
Cause he was talking, like he made a joke
about having a song and I'm like, no.
Yeah, but listen, if cut that song from Moana
10 out of 10 soundtrack.

(01:24:51):
Absolutely.
With this one, this was missing the banger.
Yes.
I needed one solid banger to push it to a 10.
I am at a nine with this one.
I don't know if I can be on the same level as you.

(01:25:15):
I think I'm at an eight.
You're at an eight?
Yeah, I'm sorry, man.
Oh, didn't think I was gonna be harsher
on the soundtrack than you.
Yeah.
You know what?
Now that I'm thinking about it,
I know that you enjoyed this song.
I'm just, I'm going through the soundtrack in my brain.

(01:25:35):
I don't, this might've had the same effect.
I'm actually gonna lower, go down to eight as well.
All right.
Because of the new Maui song.
The Maui song did not do it for me, dude.
I feel that's so funny.

(01:25:56):
I couldn't even understand what he was saying
most of the time.
Oh, really?
Yeah, maybe that's just my shitty hearing,
but I couldn't understand.
Dude, no, I've been,
I don't know about you recently,
but every single time that I go to the movie theater,
now I have to make sure that I am laser focused

(01:26:16):
so I can catch every single line that characters say now.
Because yeah, my hearing has gone to shit.
And I really wish that you could have subtitles
in movie theaters.
Oh, man.
Apparently you can.
Like some theaters have closed caption machines
that you put in your cup holder and it like.

(01:26:38):
Like that's awesome, and I would love to get that,
but I don't wanna take that away from someone
that actually needs it that is.
Yeah, I know, that's the shitty part.
Yeah, I'm just, I don't wanna be a dick and do that.
So.
Yeah, so I feel you.
I have to be laser focused as well.

(01:26:58):
Like so much though.
Like taking a kid to a movie like that is tough.
Because I'm just.
Freaking like most of the songs now,
especially in like movies like this and Wicked,
like thank God that you can listen to the soundtrack
on Spotify, because it takes me a couple of times
with each song to be like,
okay, that's what they're saying,
that's what they're saying.

(01:27:19):
Okay, all right, I fully understand the song now, got it.
Oh my gosh, dude, there's a song.
I shit you not that I have,
I have sung in my car for a solid decade at least.
I accidentally pulled up the lyrics for it one time

(01:27:40):
while I was listening to the song on Spotify
and realized that there was a small bit
that I've been singing wrong for the past 10 years.
I was like, oh shit.
All right, do you know the name of the song
off the top of your head?
Yeah, it's a Zac Brown band song.

(01:28:02):
Okay.
Let me see if I can pull it up real quick.
Oops, sorry.
Yeah, I wanna say it's the, okay, yeah, this one.
Which one is it?
Oh, it's this song called Cold Hearted.
Let me see where the, it's not gonna show me the damn,

(01:28:24):
yeah, it's a song called Cold Hearted
and I couldn't, like, there's a series of words,
there's a, can't frickin' talk,
there's a line in one of the verses that says,
pretty little words covered your dark and crooked heart.

(01:28:44):
I don't know what I was singing.
Like, now that I'm thinking about it,
like, I couldn't tell you what, okay, hold on.
I need to play it in my brain real quick, one sec.
Oh, okay.
I think I was saying petty little worms

(01:29:06):
and like covered at like your dark and crooked heart
and I never understood that.
So I was just like, I always thought
that was like a super weird verse, like, or weird line.
I'm like, and so yeah, I pulled it up on accident
and it was like doing like the whole karaoke thing
where it was showing like line for line

(01:29:27):
and so that came up and I looked just to see
cause I know what, like that was something I struggled with.
Yeah, goddamn, 10 years I've been singing
that damn song wrong.
Oh, shit.
But yeah, that should just prove that, yeah,
I need a hearing device at all times.
I don't know if that's just like ADHD or what,

(01:29:49):
but yeah, like if I'm not laser focused,
like I miss shit all the time.
So yeah, I'll lower it down to an eight.
I did really like the song that he was singing at the end
when he like went back down to save Moana.

(01:30:10):
Oh yeah, that was really sweet.
Yeah, like I thought that was super good.
I'm like, where was that singing freaking Dwayne?
Yeah, yeah, right.
Like seriously, although I don't know about you,
maybe it was just me when the whole, once he got to her
and you know, like held her in his arms

(01:30:32):
and the bubble appeared and was like, oh, Aquaman days.
Or yeah, that's immediately what I thought of.
I thought of it too.
And then her freaking grandma came in
and I almost started crying.
Like I felt that freaking gut punch to the heart, dude.
I was like.

(01:30:53):
Yeah, no, it's great, great scene.
Yeah, so good.
All right, next up we got character design.
Moana, the first one, that I would probably give a 10 to.
Yeah.
Like they got good silhouettes.
They kind of like, you know the character you're looking at.

(01:31:15):
Definitely.
And we discussed this with like, with Deadpool.
Like you can give a 10 out of 10 to like the first one,
but if they don't change the costume all that much
for the second, it just kind of brings it down a hair.
And I think that's the same case here for me.
Yeah, that's fair.

(01:31:35):
I mean, you know, I appreciate that they changed Moana's
costume because it looked great.
Yeah, it wasn't too much.
Like honestly, if it had been a while
between me seeing the first Moana and this one,
I probably wouldn't have recognized the costume change.
Really?

(01:31:55):
Yeah.
Okay.
Like I think it was just subtle enough
because I mean the skirt was basically the same, right?
Yeah, no, the skirt was the same.
You know, the skirt was the same.
It was just the top that changed.
Yeah, because now she had like a strap on,
on her, was it her left or right shoulder?
I think it was her left.
Yeah, and like, don't get me wrong.

(01:32:16):
It was good.
It was a good costume change and everything.
Yeah, no, yeah.
I personally liked it better than the first one.
Yeah, I just don't think that it was enough
to bump me up to a 10.
Because hers was really the only one that changed.
Everyone else kind of generic shaped

(01:32:38):
Disney characters, I'd say.
Yeah, fair enough.
And then Maui, exactly the same character model.
Yeah, yeah.
So I, it's still good.
Like don't get me wrong.
So I'm a nine out of 10 on that one.
Yeah, I think I met you there.
Nine as well.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of any other changes

(01:32:59):
that they made.
Like other than Pua having a tusk.
I think that was the only other change, right?
Wait, I thought that was a different pig.
No, the big old fat one?
Yeah.
Yeah, that was someone else's pig.
Okay, Pua had a tusk?
I didn't even notice that.

(01:33:19):
Yeah, he had like a single tusk.
I didn't even notice that.
Nice catch.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, so nine out of 10 on that one.
All right, last up we got personal score.
Where are you sitting?
Who's taking her?
All right.
I'm gonna hear where you're going from first.
That's true.
It's been a while since I've gone first.

(01:33:40):
Like it's been Caleb freaking weeks in a row.
No, so after seeing all the reviews and people saying,
eh, it's just an all right sequel.
Don't see why it needed to be made.
Yeah, no, I disagree.
I think this is a good sequel.
It was a really good sequel.

(01:34:01):
It expands on the characters how you want it to,
has a good story.
It's great to see Moana and Maui again.
The songs, while not as catchy as the first one,
like we pointed out, still a solid soundtrack.
And so just, yeah, like the fact that, you know,
this was originally a Disney Plus series

(01:34:21):
and they decided to turn it into a full blown sequel.
I'm glad they did because the story was definitely there
and it definitely warranted a sequel.
And if a Moana 3 does happen,
which at this point I feel is inevitable
because not only with the end credit scene
of how it sets up that,

(01:34:42):
that and also how profitable Moana 2 has been,
I think it would be dumb if Disney did not grant a Moana 3.
That will just be stupid.
It's not like people are just like,
oh, we don't need a Moana 3.
I'm sure a lot of people are just like,
well, we don't need a Moana 2.
And they showcase that like, yeah,

(01:35:03):
there's nothing wrong with giving you a Moana 2
because it continued the story well,
built on the characters.
This is great.
I'm glad that we got Moana 2.
And so I honestly hope that we get Moana 3.
Bantam, solid sequel, happy with what we got
and yeah, I look forward to seeing

(01:35:26):
what the future holds for the series and these characters.
So personal score, this is always the hardest.
It does get pretty tough.
It does.
You know what, for how much I enjoyed it,
I think I'm gonna give it an 88.
Yeah, personal score 88 for Moana 2.

(01:35:49):
Yeah, spoiler alert.
That's exactly what I was giving it to.
Hell yeah, let's go.
Dude, it was so good.
Like it was a lot more enjoyable than I expected it to be.
Like you said, I wasn't sure where this movie
was gonna go, but I was very impressed

(01:36:11):
with the story that they told.
Made sense, immediate stakes.
Like I think that's what I appreciated most about it
is that this isn't a mission she has to do.
Like her people could still,
like she didn't have to do this mission.

(01:36:31):
She could have just like let the village slowly die.
Like it would have happened over a span of time.
Like it wasn't a super necessary mission
unless she wanted the result,
which was the survival of her village
over a period of time.

(01:36:54):
So I was really impressed with that.
Yeah, I found the soundtrack to be better,
excluding the one that I've already talked about.
The cast was great, the new additions were great.
It kept my daughter's attention, which was awesome.
She loved it.

(01:37:16):
It was adorable at my screening that I saw
because I saw the nine o'clock showing.
Throughout the movie, a little girl just kept shouting,
Moana, it was really adorable.
So like it kept her attention,
but I think one of, I think it was the same family.
The other little girl, I don't think was like,
maybe she just had the zoomies

(01:37:37):
or just wasn't that entertained by the movie,
but like her dad was having to chase her
around the whole theater.
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
Yeah, I let her run up and down like the aisle,
as long as the aisle's empty.
But yeah, she did good this movie.

(01:38:00):
I love that she's picking up context a lot better too.
Some of the jokes that I thought
would have gone over her head,
like she actually got, which impressed the hell out of me.
That's awesome.
Like when they were talking about the Spears
and having like a bunch of backups,

(01:38:21):
that one was so funny because they dropped the one Spear
and she was like, oh no, and then pulls out another one.
And then she's like, oh, go, thank goodness.
And then they dropped that one and she's like, oh no.
Like she did it like all the time
and then when they were just like,

(01:38:41):
yeah, well four just seems excessive.
And I started laughing.
It's such a good joke.
Yeah, it's so funny.
And yeah, I had a great time with this.
It was fun watching my daughter experience it
for the first time and everything.
It was a great time, like super fun.

(01:39:04):
So that's why I'm giving it an 88.
Hell yeah.
All right, well with that,
that wraps up this week's breakdown.
So going through these scores real quick,
starting off with story, we are sitting at a 90.5.
Writing took a little bit of a dive, sitting at an 87.5.

(01:39:25):
Acting is slightly below that, sitting at an 87.
Character development is our lowest category,
sitting at a 79.
The effect or the animation is sitting at a 90.
Music is sitting at an eight out of 10.
Character design is sitting at a nine out of 10.

(01:39:47):
And then our personal score
ended up averaging out to an 88.
So with that, the final Albreos letter grade
for Moana 2 has come out to a B plus.
Not bad.
Definitely not bad.
They are very happy with that one.
Yeah, definitely.

(01:40:09):
It is currently sitting at an 87.12%.
So our cutoff for a B is between an 86% and an 89%.
So this one's sitting like right in the middle at an 87.

(01:40:31):
Okay, yeah, not bad.
Yeah, so like I said, that gives it a B plus.
So that will put it, and just so you know,
all of these margins are radonkulously close.
Like the difference between, like I'm gonna say

(01:40:51):
like five movies above, five movies below,
like I usually do.
The difference between five movies above,
so 87.12, five movies above
is not even a half a percentage.
Wow, damn.

(01:41:12):
Yeah, like going five above, so 87.12 to 87.5.
So that's 0.4 difference.
And then it's to say, or going down, it's,
one, two, three, four, five, point three.
Yeah, like actually 0.2, if I'm doing my math correctly.

(01:41:35):
Like that's freaking crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah, so anyone that wants to bitch and complain
about this ranking, know that the percentages
are so insignificantly small.
Yeah, like that's usually what happens when it's a B plus.
So fight us.

(01:41:56):
All right, this is currently sitting below the Willoughbys.
Okay.
It is sitting below Elemental.
Okay.
It's below Detective Pikachu.
Damn, I didn't know we gave it that high.
Dude, I rewatched that not too long ago.

(01:42:16):
Freaking love that movie.
Yeah, it still holds up.
It still holds up, it's so fun.
Okay, all right.
It is below Freaky.
Okay.
And then it is below How to Train Your Dragon.
Yeah, fair enough.
And then go in the opposite direction.
It is above Halloween 1978.

(01:42:39):
Bullshit.
Feeling.
It is above the Iron Claw.
Okay, wow, all right.
Not gonna argue.
Yeah, it is above Poor Things.
Okay.
It is above In the Heights.
All right.

(01:42:59):
And it is above Frozen 2.
Wow, okay, not bad.
Yeah, right?
So I think it has a pretty decent home.
I agree.
Yeah.
Well, unless you got anything else to add.
No, nothing.
All right.

(01:43:20):
Well, that would wrap up this week's breakdown.
Yeah.
So next week, we will be breaking down
the Sony movie that I don't think either of us
have super high hopes for again.

(01:43:41):
No, and apparently it's supposed to be the last,
at least for a while.
Good?
They're gonna try to more self-focus on just Spider-Man.
They're not killing it, this universe,
but yeah, for how little financial return they've gotten,
Sony decided to.

(01:44:02):
Yeah, shocker.
Yeah, I know, right?
Yeah, Sony's decided to take a break
from non-Spider-Man related Spider-Man movies.
Yeah.
Hey, you think these movies about Spider-Man's villains
aren't doing well because, I don't know,
maybe you're not including the goddamn superhero?

(01:44:24):
Exactly.
It's not hard.
Like just, sure, you can focus on the villain for a good,
like I'd say a solid 80% of this movie.
Like give us a reason why Spider-Man is the asshole
and then have Spider-Man come in and whoop his ass.
Yep, see, there we go.

(01:44:47):
Anyway, completely different tension.
But yeah, so you guys can look forward to that next week.
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(01:45:34):
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