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February 19, 2025 62 mins

From Fame and Fandom to Final Forms, from Hollywood to Hidden Leaf, do celebs really Go Plus Ultra for Anime?

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In this episode, we are talking about celebrity anime fans and what we think about them bringing anime to the “mainstream”

  • Do we feel these people are legitimately into anime or is it for ‘clout’?
    • How would we gauge if it's genuine?
  • Have we seen any celebs getting involved in the anime community?
    • Do we know if they show up at conventions?
    • Do they only do stuff if it's paid?

  • How would we express our anime fandom if we were a celeb?
    • Are we loud with it or under wraps?
    • Would it influence the work that we take on?

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(00:00):
(Laughs)
Ahh, Lord take the wheel.
Shout out my man, he’s funnny as Hell Bruv.
What are you man saying though?
Oh, yeah, I'm Highlander,
by the way, for those that some reason don't recognise
my voice, as Gerrd likes to,
make sure you know that
everybody can distinguishone voice from the other.

(00:21):
Who’s speaking next?
P Zen on the Mic
For those who don't recognise my voice,I'm Parker Zensai
as Gerrd says, people don't know who we are
so, we're making sure that we
introduce ourselves, we don’t sound that alike, do we?
I know that we’re South London guys
Wait. Hold on.
I'm not here for one episode.
And all of a suddenwe just want to entirely cluster the.

(00:44):
This is what we’re doing now?
Gotta switch it up.
I can't believe what's going on right now.
Okay, well,That was Gerrd as well by the way
For those who don't recognise his voice.
Wow. And,Karto do you want to say something?
lovely.
(laughs)

(01:06):
Shout out to Karto though
Shout out to Karto, I hate you for that timewhere you were like.
I'm from North London.
Nah, I had to bruv.
Prime and his his prideand love from being from
North London is absolutely shocking givenhow much he adores
Emeli Sandé
What's going on, guys? We doing?What's happening?
What are you up to?
I’ll even start to be honest.

(01:28):
I'm reading, do you know what, off the back of apost that you sent in the group, right.
I started reading omniscient reader’sview.
Yeah. Viewpoint. that one. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, omniscient reader’s viewpoint.
Is it good?
Yeah. I think it’s pretty good.
Still, Is this the one that you and Karto
were talking about?
no
that was the beginning of the end.

(01:50):
The beginning after the end.This is the Beginning after the end.
So now I've read a fairamount of all three is in color.
Is it in colour?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s in colour,it’s also a South Korean Manhwa
The one that is,
the of the source that you.
Okay.
So I've now I've read a fair, I've learneda, I've read a fair bit of all three
and I can understandwhat homeboy was saying

(02:13):
in the post in terms of overall,
if we talk it over talking overallI think omniscient
read viewpointis probably like, is it an iseki?
It's above the other two
in terms of quality of life in the story.
Yeah, that kind of thing.
But it's like a reincarnation, premise.

(02:34):
It's,
so basically the story, as the storygoes, is, dude, like,
if I just give you a quickreference is a dude who,
is the only guy who's reading this, like,webcomic
or like, onlinekind of manga, like, he's the only person,
like light novel where
there's some animeversion of the page monster.

(02:56):
I love the page monster.
That was a good movie, bro.
It's, it's a good movie.
Classic.
I'd watch it again today. Sorry.
Carry on.
For years and years and years,and obviously
at the end, like, you know,he sends a message to the,
like, writer of the late night novel.
Not saying.

(03:16):
Yeah, like, you know, thanks for thanks.
Everything kind of thing. So you ready to,
I'm not today.
I'm not. I'm not today.I've read in the beginning.
I've read it, like, a while ago,before, the beginning of the end.
So I need to catch up.
I want to read to, like,maybe like chapter eight or some.
Then you've blitzed it.
Only chapter eight?
No, but you can get you can get through alike, novel quite quickly.

(03:36):
Like if you. Yeah.
To be honest like it'sI read it as basically
what I'll do is I'll downloada couple of chapters
and I'll read it on the trainback on the way to work and stuff.
I need to know.
Yeah, when you read and again,it's not fair comparison.
I was going to ask,do you did your imagination
still as vivid todayas it was when you were younger?
Probably like an adolescent or a teenager?

(03:59):
And the best example I get from reading,you know, reading Harry Potter and,
when it
when you visualize it, how,how did that go?
Do you know, the thing is,
I'll say it's I can't even saylike my imagination is more vivid.
Say, because the way that I readis different.
Do you go?
I mean, like, back in the day,I think when I was reading stuff,

(04:20):
I was really gettingwrapped up in the story.
So whereas nowadaysI read it to get through the story,
it's not the same kind of experience,if you get what I mean.
So you're not really tryingto visualize it as much
as when you're reading what you say.
Get through the story.
You mean to get to the end?
Essentially. Yeah.
I just want to see what happens next.

(04:40):
Would say that I'm trying to reallyjust get really into the story together.
I mean, come on, guys, what why did youcross the road to get to the other side?
Just.
Yeah. No.
No. Basically, sorry.
To piggyback,
I just said when I used to read things

(05:02):
back in the day,it would be a thing where I'd read and,
like, journal, get immersedand I'd actually read the paper.
Yeah. Save it.
I know, quote unquote substitute.
So I feel great that way.
If I'm being honest,when I used to read books back in the day,
they weren't anythingthat were mainstream, though, like books
that I'd get from, like the libraryor the would like around the house.
But yeah. Fiction.
I used to read a lot of goosebumpsand all that stuff as well, you know?

(05:25):
Yeah. But you did.
You used to read the ones that had, likethe if you, if you picked this option.
Good.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeahyeah.
No reason being that seriously.
Like I use you're on a deserted islandwith all these monsters.
I think I remember reading that one.
I think they very vaguely ringsa bell and decides to go for this tunnel.

(05:49):
You you end up often, you die like, oh,
yeah, I'll go back to the,
I didn't finish very well.
No, I didn't know that was serious.
Yeah, yeah, but when I used to read booksregularly, I'd get immersed
because the words.
But we didn't like a Manwha or a Manga.
It kind of does a heavy lifting for you.Yeah.

(06:09):
It's true, cause you can see it.
Rather than having to visualize the thing.
So even in that sense,like when you're reading stories
from back in the dayespecially, this is like old tech stuff.
They're more descriptive
in terms of the things that like,you know, you're reading.
So you can actually buildthat picture more so it's easier to get.
I think,
into more into it, if that makes sense.
So it's easierto activate your imagination.

(06:31):
Whereas when you're reading like a comicor like a manga or manhwa
or one of those things, essentiallyyou're already seeing the image that like,
you know, they're trying to build.
It's just you just kind of have to, Iguess, make that image live in your mind.
That's that's less there's less stuff
to do because I read comics tothis day and yeah, I think I

(06:56):
but yeah for me I just read,
I just need to get through the storynowadays rather than,
you know, find yourself,you know, you know, maybe going back
to a particular part of it because,you know, and I ra really enjoyed that.
No, I don't thinkI've really come across a story
that's not gonna come in for free still.
So I don't think that, does make you goback.

(07:18):
Yeah. Not yet anyway.
No, I think they probably will be onethat will let me go, but like,
that would make me go back
and then read over certain partsor read over the whole thing again.
But I just don't thinkI've come across that story just yet.
Then I don't read
as often as I used to as well.
So I think the likelihood of mefinding me like a book.

(07:39):
Yeah bro that's skill.
You know even I, I'm a fan of arts. Yeah.
So I need to get back on that.
But like soso it's at this point in my life is lifing, innit
you know what?
You know, solo leveling.
Sorry, where you say you find faults
solo leveling again.

(07:59):
Yes. I'm doing the wholeI was going to leave until like
it gets to the end stopsand then I'll watch it kind of does.
Highlander Said he's going to try.
It's, similar to the last oneand I'm waiting.
I need I need at least two.
But I only two episodes.
I go with back to backbecause I watched three back to back.

(08:20):
Was it a first for.
Well season two.
Yeah.
So when the restI was having troubles in my personal life.
But during that hour I didn't give a
I was like, thank God!
So we just go back right.
You know like for examplewith the book thing, when the next bit
drops, that luck or however much it isthat you need to drop comic.

(08:41):
No, no, no.
Solo leveling
so like, you know, like what you're sayingwith like there might be a story
that isn't, hasn'tthere been a story that may be good,
but let's say you enjoy solo levelingthat much right.
Because you've spoken very highly of it.
So when the next couple of let's sayyou're on episode three right now.
So episodes 4, 5, 6.
So that you can get the full thinglike would you
not just go back to episode oneand then watch episode six.

(09:05):
No. Because I remember all of it.
I remember the key, the album.
Fair enough. I just play my mind.
Now they're not here.
I hear.
Yeah.
Because this has been, I was saying to P ZenWhen was it? Was It after episode 3?
I believe. So, yeah, yeah.
Just off episodethe season to is has been,

(09:29):
the most gassedI've been for an anime in a long time still.
Yeah.
At some pointthe pacing is just beautiful story.
Beautiful action, lovely animationon point I was even saying to P Zen
And just when I think that maybedon't take too long regarding this, part,
the pacing’s decent. Yeah.Then they’re onto the next one.
Okay. Is that how it is?

(09:49):
Did you read the Manwha?
Nope. That's why it's just fresh bro.
Fair enough. Yes.
And this is is never
it never really goeswell you think I'm not good.
I mean you can tell me if I'm wrongbecause he read.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It just it it consistent in

(10:10):
being able to surprise you or keepyou guessing throughout the whole.
I'd say yes I think Gerrd would disagreeafter a certain point.
For what kinds of spoilers?
There was a section or fork in the roadthat I think you didn't really know
you liked it off as a story.
Like after a certain bit, it just it

(10:30):
it's not like, do you know what,I put it this way as an anime.
After the bit I'm talking aboutI think story wise, yeah.
Quality wise it falls off a cliff.
But as an animethat would still be very very watchable.
I'll keep it very chill.
But like has a story like the storypretty much ends there for me.
I find it funny that no oneseems to question how this guy looks.

(10:52):
Nothing like he did last week.
Oh he keeps going.He's, he is a completely.
Do you see the picture?
It's always just a side by sidecomparison of him before and after.
And he.
I'm so free a season one to like today.
That's what he looks like now.
He looks like his own dad.
I don't know an athlete.

(11:13):
Then he grows like a good.
Yeah, he grew, he grew.
There was actually a picture of, Saitamastanding next to Jin Woo,
and then they go,oh, what's your training regime?
And then he goes, oh, this is what I did.
And then Saitama was like,I don't think that's fair,
because they didpretty much the same thing.
But you had Saitama
Yeah. Miles over ten miles a day.
Yeah.
But, he's I can understand strangersnot questioning too much.

(11:37):
My own sister
doesn't.
Yeah.
My mind has grown like four inches.
Maybe not enough.
Not more then no more. He end uplooks like head up.
Going from like a recluseto like some kind of like J-pop artist.
He's hedging his clothes style changehis eyes.
Got shut up off the.
He needed the eyes on this guy becauseI guess he did the eyes and shut eyes.

(12:01):
And he's the only guy on that podthat actually looks Asian.
That's crazy.
I said pod it,
I’m tired, Show sorry
Shout out Solo
show it on Instagram, actually, of,
I think it was Liverpool players actually.
And it was watching it, so.
Oh yeah. On, on on the plane right.
Yeah yeah yeah.

(12:22):
And I was like Ra, Swear down like
Also a video where like the whole Man Usquad is watching it.
Too serious. No you're a prick.
He said it was such a straightface as well.
I hate it, I hate it.
Oh, Man U are the worst, You the way. Oh.
I see your, sweat on that famous people watch.
I don't know,
I had a conversations with, like, MKGand Yoshida and Prime the other day.

(12:44):
We did a stream, where
We reviewed the most recent episodeof Solo Leveling of listening, and we actually said
and agreed that we don't think or
to recent knowledgethat an anime has had a chokehold
on the casual anime fan basesince Attack on Titan
so do you think that famouspeople are like casual anime fans like,

(13:06):
oh, how do you know that?
Like, you know, this is the thing.
Like, how do you know an anime person thathow do you first of all,
consider someone to be a quote unquotereal anime fan and not secondly,
when it comes to like a famous person,like,
for example, let's say Meg the Stallion isa fan of My Hero Academia.
Yeah.
Well, she's a she's definitely he'sdefinitely a casual fan.

(13:29):
But how do you know likehow how can you tell that?
I believe based on the wayshe conducts herself
when it comes to anime, she she cosplay,she puts it in, she puts it in a craft.
She literally will embody anime, you knowthat he watches anyway, you can tell.
Is my herothe only one she didn't reference?
Now she's reference Jojo.

(13:50):
She's reference flipping.
Jujustu Kaisen is like, yeah,I've only ever heard her reference My Hero
I don’t listen to that much of her music, but I've seen her like,Do the Todoroki cosplay.
Yeah, my hero.
Half, half and half.
Oh, okay. fire and ice boy? Yeah.
Hot and cold

(14:10):
Yeah,
I remember that now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I said, hey,
that shouldn't have been funny,
because the way that I took, like,you know,
the way that I took a minuteto just load that joke he said,
he said no, we’re keeping that in.
So like, yeah, I don't know.

(14:31):
How do you I just, I
sometimes I do wonder to myself, like,do we feel like that
like these people up again?
I guess it's hard to say, isn't it.
But sometimes, you know.
Yeah.
I mean, it's maybe a little bit aheadon our part, you know, calling them.
Do you see randomly the interviewwith Terry Henry
where he was talking about,they asked during what his favorite

(14:52):
cartoon character was, and then he goes,oh, can I can I talk about manga?
And he referenced Goku.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How old is Thierry Henry? 40 something 45? 46? so he might.
Oh. So okay, so he, he's just on the,
the cusp of being part that generationwhen it came out,

(15:13):
telling youbecause it came out in the night.
Right. Dragonball.
You would have been a kidwhen it came out.
Yeah,you would have been a kid when it came out
because Dragon Ball came out, like late 1980s
Yeah, yeah. Oh, Dragonball. Dragonball.
And Goku was a kid.
Yeah, but in Dragon Ball Z, was I, what, mid 90s?
Early 90s, I think early. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

(15:33):
You would have just caught that as ayou didn't know.
We probably would have been maybelike on gonna taking our age into account.
He probably would have been like
what I think eight years.
He probably would have been like early
secondaryreally might've been like 12 saints.
Yeah.
Oh you're right. Goku, was it oh 47? Yeah.
There you go.
So yeah,probably would have been around 9015.

(15:56):
He would have probably been.
Yeah.
Early teens, early to mid teens. Right.
But okay.
That's interesting.
So here you are. You will be pleasantly.
Yeah. But you know what.
Sometimes you know commentswhat you're saying I think sometimes
maybe it's a thingwhere like we don't necessarily
and let me not say webecause it meant that to whatever reason.

(16:18):
Let me not say oui
sorry I did that.
I don't think, you know, sometimeswhen it comes down to these things.
Right?
Because anime has always kind of beenthat thing
that stereotypical has been that thingfor the people
who were not part of the popular kidswhen they were younger or like, you know,

(16:39):
the quote unquote children or whateveryou want to call them, that kind of stuff.
But like the guys who,like not necessarily social outcast
per se in their own lane, basically.
Yeah, very much to the side.
Did not. And, you know what I'm saying.
Like so they were they became a, like,a counterculture type of thing.
And so now, like, this is or justcompletely hidden or whatever it is.

(17:00):
Yeah.
So like this has become their thingand not they're very protective of it.
Well,so like gatekeeper mentality which is.
Yeah, 100% it's not.
So when now someone comes throughwho is quote unquote
very popular, if that's whatyou want to call it or whatever.
But like, you know, someone they're very
protective of
that because it's like, well, no, listen,this has been our thing.

(17:21):
This is our thing, that kind of thing.
You were there with us in the trenches,you know, when we were getting called
weird for watching anime and reading mangaand that kind of stuff.
Then you might get cool with, likean anime back in the day, where any point
I don't think I just, I didn't really knowanybody I was trying to think is
I think if I was called weird,I was oblivious to it.
If that made sense,because I still I still watched it anyway,

(17:42):
because the stuff,you know what the dumb Times did?
The stuffthat we're talking about back in school
and whatnot, was pretty much the stuffthat everyone was watching.
And everyone's talking about Dragon BallZ, because everybody what
no one reallyunderstood it was an animated thing.
Yeah.
So it goes back to what I was saying.
Like, I was protective over it.

(18:03):
I don't know if they really needto be like that, but yeah, what I'm saying
sometimes I get, oh, no, you're not,you're not a legitimate one or you're not.
You got, I mean, and it's likebecause I've seen it actually online
I guess, and that kind of stuffthat where people will be like
talking about,oh, I like this in that anime or so.

(18:24):
And so for
I like this thing in that anime, people come in the comments and stuff
and it'll be like they'll stop factchecking them or whatever.
They're correcting them.
When someone is saying in the comments,
to just get off social media because
some of the arguments I've seen on there,I just can really point it's
the guys will correct each other of a shitthat has an absolute, you know,

(18:45):
with an it just come back.
If I need to go back to,
you know,
the authority figures on how to watchNaruto.
Yeah, yeah.
So, like,let's talk about Michael B Jordan because
he's it that who's pronouncing that way.

(19:05):
Yeah, I knew that's on me. For me.
Yeah. Let's talk about it.
Because he's a guythat he claims to be a big fan of.
Muto. Yeah.
And and in general,that makes him sound kind of legit.
No, he did the. No.
But this is the thing that he didthe collaboration with coach
Right.
That was based on Naruto.
Didn't he also incorporate Hajime no Ippo?

(19:27):
You know, or some kind of aspects of animeinto the into the movie that he.
Creed 3.Yeah, I believe so.
The name I believe.
I swear Hajime no Ippo youif it had some relevance and tie in
Hajime no Ippo, you know, have you you have.
Yeah.
I think it wasthis move called the Dempsey roll
Now, the deputy role is a real thingthat also comes.

(19:49):
Yeah. Oh,
I mean, no way.
Who is it?
I think it was very much popularized by.
But they exaggerate using it.
Yeah. Yeah.
But basically he goesit's exaggerated anime
It must be. Yeah.
I mean he's like it's like it'slike it's like yeah.
He doesn't have the image. You know,what is the thing is. Right.
For example, I've seen a bunch of thingsin sports I can't speak on like the,

(20:13):
I can't speak on, you know,because I don't know, I've not watched it,
but I know,but I know a bit of boxing that not a lot.
But I know, like, surfing,
you know,you got two random pieces of information
that's only usablein very specific situations.
So Dempsey was likeone of those things in it, right?
I couldn't speak for like,let's say, tennis.
I know in Prince of Tennisthere's a bunch of stuff that they do that

(20:36):
exists in real life, howeverstupidly exaggerated I might exaggerated.
But those things do actually exist.
Okay, because I was going to saythat Dempsey roll the waves and portrayed,
yeah, impossible to do in real life.
So I'm sad to say, like a Pinocchiowhen I'm talking to him from

(20:57):
180
to 180 and just full on punch,you see.
Yeah. No one's doing it in real life bro.
No no no you're get knocked out.
No, no one's letting you do that.
No professional boxer is letting you
do this.
But yeah.
It's a it's legit. Yeah.
Oh I've had I've seen like that in.

(21:17):
Yeah.
In real lifeI've seen my cousin do it for example.
But like not as exaggerated as that.
But I've seen this guy swinging like a.
Yeah. Literally that. That's it.
Yeah. You might talk.
He puts into spine.
Yeah.
So do you think like you think. Okay.
I mean and you think he's legit.

(21:38):
I think he, I can say he's legit,
even though he might have slipped upwith the pronunciation of Naruto.
I think
because this is why people
aren't, like, working for himduring that period of time.
Because I ruminative.
You know, it's funny, though,you know as well with it.
Like, bear in mind, he'snow using an anime inspired thing to
go and get the bag.

(21:58):
I'm not saying that like, he shouldn'tdo that because there's bad people.
That is a new movie.
There's a new movie, every animethat's quite conceptual.
You know, we jumped on the no.
Oh no.
Since I haven't even come across that yet.
But he's got like, vampires.
And it was like, oh no.
But like,he's, he's, he's on a, he's on a vibe of,

(22:18):
you know, he's a big Naruto fan, but like,
even this is I guess this is why I likeI see I don't see the point
of what like, these gatekeepingpeople be doing, but like,
they're.
Yeah.
Right. Right.
If you really like this, then why is itthat you can't even pronounce his name?
Would you say that by.
Would you say thathe's using anime for clout?

(22:44):
You know, maybe.
Maybe.
I don't know if, you know,because he might
just be anything wrongwith using it for continuity.
Is there anything inherently better?
I would say, you know what?
That helps him, bro, is thing.
You know, getting a a more, more tractionfor whatever project.
Was he saying that it benefits animeeven though he's theoretically it doesn't

(23:05):
benefit anime in him to say that,like how it might do
because he might have fansthat go, oh, Michael B Jordan likes anime.
I like Michael B Jordan.
Let me try anime.
Yeah, someone that watched The Wireback in the day
and been following his career upuntil now, but I haven't watched anime
to hear himtalking about it now. I mean, literally,
hey, you know what,
I don't think I don't knowif I'm speaking like lapse in it.

(23:28):
I'm not. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Hypothetically speaking,I don't know if people will pick up
entire hobbies or whateveryou want to call it.
Let's say let's call anime a hobby.Yeah, yeah.
I don't know if people are picking upa hobby an entire hobby
of the strength of how much they messwith someone else. No.
Yeah, I think too much credit.

(23:48):
Don't forget, that was a whole title.
Each challenge.
Yeah. That will refresh my memory.
What happened to that?
These were washing machine tablets
that people were eatingbecause they were multi-colored.
People died.
Who started that trend?
It's just a quote unquote normal.
But I'm using it as a. Yeah.

(24:10):
So he's saying he's not.
That's a viral trend.
This is someone who's actuallyinfluencing you to do something,
let's say, like, oh, cool,I know, but stop Hasbro's person so much.
That's what I'm saying.
A lot of people are like that nowadays.
No, this is genuine. Genuine.
Yes. Industry for influencers,

(24:30):
people who influence people into,I guess, doing things.
What was that? What?
Didn't people die over herebecause there was a blackout challenge.
They put a plastic bag over their head.
Kids died of that, dude.
They suffocated those.
That's just a weird phenomenon.
That is challenge.
They broke the million challenge.

(24:53):
Ice bucket challenge.
Let's go for thingsthat were a little less.
Less morbid. This is.All right, let's let's see.
People became paralyzed with the move.Great. Yeah. Let's let's.
Oh, what what is trying to climb up?
They got to the top.
Did this want on bums became paraplegic.
That crazy.
All right, let's let's put it this way.
Right. Cool.
You're saying

(25:13):
he's.
But you're sayinghe's not doing it for clout?
That's not. I'm saying.
Yeah, like I don't see any problem,because if even if you liked it
just a little bit, I.
Cobra if he's doing it for clout,then it shouldn't.
Like you're saying that okay.
If he's doing it for clout,shouldn't anime benefit off of it somehow?
Like the anime scene?

(25:34):
Let's call it that.
Let's callthe anime scene should benefit off of it.
It depends on how much these lot don't necessarily.
For example, they don't show up at Cons.
They don't.
Don't necessarily get involved.
So I'm so so so hypothetically
I'm making money off stuffI don't really care about.

(25:54):
I'm just basically I got a moviecoming out and I know anime people
like anime.
So I'm gonna say oh you know what I like
King Piccolo because he soundslike my favorite instrument.
And then people go, oh, he's an amazinginstrument.
Piccolo is an instrument also known.
It is.
No, no, no, I assume there'sanother vegetable like Vegeta or whatever stuff.

(26:17):
No doubt.
I mean,
wind instrument such, guitar
or ukulele, like a recorder or,what's that one like?
Guess a flute. Flute? Yeah.
Because like that in Japanese. Piccolo.
I mean, whoever that instrument.
Piccolo is just so universalfor that instrument
also, I don't.
Yeah, I was going to say if he knowsthe character is good King piccolo.

(26:39):
Yeah. Oh no.
Oh yeah. You didn't know the surface levelI guess you mean.
I know what you mean. No.He probably will call it in in number.
Of course.
Well so it was a question like we knowif he's you know, let's say for example,
Michael B Jordan,like if he's doing it for clout,
but like the anime thingdoesn't get anything from it.
I mean, they seen H struggle in RoadDemon Slayer, whatever the last movie was,

(27:02):
and it the highest grossing filmof all time.
Animation, right?
Yeah.
Anime over time. Yeah.
Of all time.
Well, billions.
Yeah.
Over at leasta billion in dollars of all time.
Yeah, yeah,that's one movie anime scene. Is.
Yeah, they don't even pay their animators.
Was it the distributor?

(27:23):
Set it up of.
But you are can goI think I should not do you make it me
personally no I don't, but I guessit's something to talk about in it.
And it's not.
I'm just asking like, personally,
personally, I think the thing isthis is the this is the thing
you can't genuinely gauge how much intolike, how into anime someone really is.

(27:44):
Like, I mean, if youif imagine if he had his face painted,
tattooed over his
nose, his fingers, I you know,
you know, there's a lot of itthat a lot of men like, you know,
just like a lot of people will justthey will commit to
the facade in waysthat you'd be very surprised.
You're saying that there are
guys out there that will get a tattooof a fictional character

(28:05):
on a permanent part of their body,and not even really be numb to
it. Depends on how.
Okay, let's just say let's takeKofi Kingston and,
Xavier Woods, for example.
Wrestlers.
WWE they both yeah,they both recently done a heel turn
and now they've both got tattoosof the Majin Buu logo on themselves.

(28:29):
The Majin Buu symbol.
They definitely you it to confuse,you know, you know, the Majin
The Majin Buu reminds me of,
like an individual, and I mean, sure,
he said he was going to get the Berserkcause that's a red flag.
That's a red flag, you know?
You know, that's a red flag there.
It's like, okay, that's a red flag.

(28:50):
And I think you understand why.
Because you have this. You have, you know,and I'll let you finish.
Yeah. Go right in.
Was, discussed.
Mark, and bring you allkind of two men in suffering.
And I know it's not real, butI looked at this guy, I was like, hold on.
Yeah. You sure? Yeah. Yeah. Why?
But he's one of the, you know, and,surely you should know,
but yeah, I think it's I know some peoplewho have that same tattoo.

(29:14):
I know,but it doesn't know people personally.
And I'm like,I like them as people, don't get me wrong.
But before I knew certain people,if I ever picture
someonegetting the brand of the sacrifice tattoo,
it would make me runfor the hills completely.
But yeah.
So, is everyone's and Kofi Kingston.
They are examples of people who definitelywould not be getting the tattoos
just for getting tattoos.

(29:35):
Like they did that into the culturethat the enemy had
and the is the like,someone can 100% fake it.
Yeah, 100%.
You can bear in mind as well a lot of thethese are people who've got bread.
Right.
What's my man's name?
Who's, he's a comedian.
I can't remember his name,
but he spent, like, recently, like,he had, like, bad tattoos on his body.

(29:56):
Yeah, loads of tattoos, but,
one of them ones that wherenone of the tattoos,
like, none of the tattoosreally, really belong together.
Well, with each other. So it justlooks like a random mess on his body.
Okay.
You got you paid 200 bagsto get all of those tattoos removed.
He got them all.
Lays it off and right, you know?
Yeah, they're they're not. There's no,

(30:18):
vestiges of the tattoo was left.
Nothing like skin is clean.
Then. Tattoo removal was never enough.
Like 100%.
How to put this is never 100% done.
I don't know, but, like,whatever the case
is, he's he's he probably has budget. You.
You've got money to do.
Well yeah. Yeah.
So this this this this tiersystem, there's probably no

(30:42):
anyway back to the back.
Like back to the mattress
that someone who'sin that kind of position, let's say you're
really just trying to commit to an imageor whatever it is you're trying to do,
then there's no reason
why you can't just, let's say,go and get a tattoo or whatever it is.
And then when you're done with that imageor whatever, you just go and get laid off
or you might even just get a tattoo,you know, there's like tattoos that you

(31:03):
that last like,let's say maybe like a year or two years,
you know, or so it them kind of fixed it.
So why couldn't you just do that.
And I'm saying yeah.
No that's that's a fair point.
That's fair point.
But if I was in that person's headspaceand I wasn't into anime
and I got myself a tattoo and I wentthrough the pain of doing it, I'm glad.
You know what?
I went for this pain. Let me actually see.What is it about? Let me.

(31:27):
God, it's just
like, if it's just for the back, it'sjust, like, you know, whatever.
Bear in mind, let's say, for example,
something like, you know,get like Puar from Dragon Ball Z, the cat.
Yeah.
Puar from Dragon Ball tattooed on your chest.
Right.
And I'm of all the things,part of a marketing campaign,
you're going to walk around shirtlesswith this poor tattoo for whatever reason.

(31:49):
But like at the end of it,there's 350 bags in it for you,
and we're going to get it removed for youif you don't want to keep it.
How big is this tattoo?
It's to it's like your pictorial,the size of your peck
It covers the entire peck
350. Bear in mind you're just doing itfor a promotional campaign,
but like, you're doing it to make itlook like you're super into anime.

(32:10):
Like you're right.
I'm so into anime that I've gotone of the side characters tattooed on me
because I really identify with my mindfrom whatever I like, even think of
like a really moist characterfrom any anime that you want garlic Jr
You know.
Right. What I,
I don't know, what's my man who does,
from my hero who does naval laser,what's his name?

(32:33):
The French guy.
Aoyama, I think his name is Aoyama
No, no. Yeah.Who the fuck knows what I got?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, get a tattoo of him.
You not do it right?
You still watch my hero?Does he ever get stronger?
He gets you full, but not stronger.
I'm not going to lie to you.I know he get.
No. Okay, let me let me know. Likehe don't get useful.

(32:53):
He gets a bit more incorporated intothe main plotline, but he doesn't get.
He didn't get stronger.
I can't. Yeah,he gets it. He's still in it.
Yeah, yeah, he gets incorporatedinto a big plot point.
I thought they would have ducked him outby now.
So, he's still around.
Let's not digress too.
Let's.
Okay. No, but. Oh, it's my answer.
Like I'm gonna put it,so I'll put the scenario.

(33:15):
But if we fish, I'llput the scenario to you. Yeah.
You're here.
You're your your mission or whatever it isif you choose to accept it.
The objective here is amazing.
The like the objective hereis to look like
you are super into animeso that you can tap into like the anime
community, like get them to really, reallymess with what you're doing.

(33:35):
So you find a characterthat's super relatable, so
and so forth and whatever, whatever.
I'll get a call.
I'll get I'll get some general
sangwoo, for example,let's just pick him from solo level.
And yeah, you got to getsome kind of tattoo that has to do a song.
Jin Woo,

(33:55):
arise, you know, whatever it is.
But it has to be a super prominent tattoo.
And everywhere that you're going
to promote your team,that tattoo has to be visible.
350 bags at the end of you arise,you get across your foot
of rise.

(34:16):
It's got to be one of one.
If I'm in this, if I'm if I'm in his headspace where I'm getting the money is
a rise is a phrase. So you're going to getthat across your chest.
Maybe it's a character. I'll say it's a
if you're doing aword, it's across your chest or something.
And it has to be on your,no. The throat. Never.
I'm sorry. Right.
Or give me a militarism throat is I'm,

(34:37):
diabolical.
It that's that's that's definitely the.
No, it's literally nasty work.
Are you guys from the Nasty
That's all you do with it?
For free for 350.
Because that's the kind of money Imight make from doing this kind of promo.
This is my skin.Suffered it. I'm a permanent damage.
Don't forget.
Forget about all of that.
Like, you know, whatever

(34:58):
in the situation, there'sno there's no ill or whatever.
There's no end effects or anythinglike that.
It's literally just you get the tattoo,keep the tattoo for X amount of time.
There's this amount of moneyat the end of it for you.
You need to promo this thingusing this tattoo,
tap into the anime communityand then you're done.
And then after you're done,you can remove it for you if you want.

(35:20):
You'll do that. Exactly.
So if that's the case, you're saying thatwhat do you say
if I'm in that has based on.
Yeah I do it. Cool.
So you are both saying you're doing it.
Why do you feel like a celebrity
who's actually got the means to dothese kind of things?
We're not.They're not even talking in hypotheticals.
That's okay.
But why do you feel like
they might not just do the thingto look like they're legit anime fans?

(35:44):
And then, you know, I mean, rub it in?
No, it's different.
But to me, I'm just saying that
there are no absolute.
So you know what? You know what? Wait.
Sorry to interrupt.
I said I would do it,but I think I'm coming from the space
of someone who's already anime fan.
So the idea kind of like intrigues me.
But say, for example,it was me as a football fan
and for promotional purposes,I had to look like I was a Spurs supporter.

(36:07):
I couldn't do it.
No, I couldn't do it like,you know, give me money to get just,
you know, whatever this person isas soon as it is on your chest.
One year for free.
If they said to me, oh,make yourself look like your Spurs fan,
get like, say, for example,Spurs are a big fan base.
That.
No, I'm going to
the free 55 on your right.

(36:30):
Yeah.
You're like, I'm not inviting you.
Are you? Like, no, no. If.
No no no hypothetically.
No no no.
Hypothetically. You're sayingif I'm a celebrity, I have the means.
I make my money other ways.Because you're saying.
You're saying if I'm a celebrity,you just got to promote it.
If I'm a celebrity, I'm making money.Lots of ways.
I think, no, no, no, no.
You ask me the question.

(36:51):
Your question was, if you're a celebrityand people approach you to basically,
why am I get why else would I get a tattooif I'm not going to be promoting it?
If I'm just a normal Joe?
What what what good with paying? Well?
What good?
What can we pay me 500,000?
Get me if I'm just a normal Joe.In this scenario, I'm a celebrity.
All I know is I.

(37:11):
I eat and you go.
I tell people, you turn it down.
Oh, yeah, bro, they don't need to.
No no no I'm not. No no no.
To be honest, I might be tribalism though.
I'm also a fan.
Can you imagine I would broI don't I will get Arsenal tattooed.
Who kills Man City LiverpoolI don't give a damn fan.
Do you not feel like some of these guysare actually just doing it for clout?
I'm not attracted there.
Don't forget that.

(37:32):
No, they might be putting on the greatest
weight in about Michael B Jordan,but just people in general
who said that you know, because,you know, anime right now is a really,
let's call it like a it'sa, it means anime.
Yeah.
Being an medium to anime is invogue is a very popular esthetic.
It would be anonymous. Right. So
anime has come a long way.

(37:52):
What's the chancesthat someone's just on that kind of vibe?
That, oh, you know what,this is what's cool right now.
And to look like I'm cool.
So I'm going to do this.
Like, do you not feel, I mean,
if anything,what does it offend you for? Me.
Not me personally.
I do what you want.
Like I don't really carebecause I'm into what? I'm into. You.
Whatever you want to be into,that's up to you.

(38:12):
That's not it.
But like, I know that there area lot of people in the anime community.
There's a lot of anime people in animefandoms, for example, who feel very like,
you know, strong degree of like ownershipover these things, isn't it?
And so they don't want to have peoplewho aren't
really genuinely into those things, like,you know, coming in spaces

(38:33):
and, and benefiting from,like their association with these things.
No. Look, I completely understandwhy some people, you know, would find it
offensive that someone is just pretendingto really work with anime
for a, for the bag or, you know,whatever this is, whatever it may be. But
at the end of the day,
nothing'sgoing to stop you from doing stuff.

(38:53):
So yeah, jobs,I mean, I said, I mean, we're coming from
I mean, we've seen at Comic-Con, people
go Ham Bruv.you know, some of the oh, dedication.
Yeah.
How much they really rock.
The thing is, like, it'snot even on the back of
or on the same vein as, like celebrities,but there are people
who go to conventions, only fan models,and they'll basically dress up

(39:14):
just because they knowthat they'll get eyes on them.
All these people,
for research purposes,
ways of holding.
You got a business card from one of thembefore you got a business card.
From that note, you can either really?
But yeah, only only valid modelswill go to conventions.
Dressing up in random cosplayjust to get eyes on.

(39:34):
I guess my thing is, maybe a question
that I'm thinking is like,what would it take to get one of these?
And this is not even to say thatthe people who do show up at anime
conventions or like, you know, Comic-Conand stuff that are not A-list celebrities.
Maybe they're not A-list celebrities,to be honest.
But like,what would it take for let's say okay,

(39:55):
like who's the most famousanime fan that you know, I
Me!
Samuel L. Jackson, who does he like?
He kind of grew up, like really into Afro Samurai.
You know, all that good stuff.
Yeah.
Afro samurai only came out in, like,the 2000.
He. That might be one of them.

(40:16):
I know that this is according to a sourcelike Simon Jackson is actually.
He's.
Oh, know, he's, like, 60.
Know he's gonna be.
You know, the thing is, you don't.
Age is really matter.
He doesn't matterif you're into anime. Into anime.
No, I'm just saying,we can't say he grew up watching, though
anime.

(40:37):
That was a slip.
I'm sorry.Samuel L. I'm sorry, Uncle Sam.
I mean, you might not be olderthan, you know, the very first
wave of, But.
Yeah. No, no.
Oh, yeah.
No, you're right.
76 nearly a damn.
So, so I missed it by saying I grew up.
By the way, he was born in the 50s.

(40:59):
You put in the 40s?
Oh, wait.
Late 40s. Yeah,but still the animated thing.
But then what? Theseman, world war in the 40s.
And the Second World War when it.
When the Astro Boy dropped.
When when it Astro boy drop again.
Because that's 1950. Yeah.
So he was he went from having Hiroshimaand Nagasaki bomb to fucking.

(41:21):
I'm never velocity.
That doesn't matter. Funny.
Okay, good.
Like, why are you moving your lips?
Sorry.
They went from Hiroshima and Nagasakigetting atomic bombed.
Yeah, to Astro Boy in the 50s.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, I think Astro Boywas even inspired by the war.
But like I said, I came up,the manga came out in the 50s.

(41:42):
I'm sure I don't know the animebecause, like, it was also the 50s,
but I feel like,but I'm pretty sure shot it in the.
But I don't get it.
He's, he's the most famous personthat I might find, you know.
Plus it 1952,
1950.

(42:02):
But yeah.
To circle back to what you're saying,who's the most
let's say for example, justif you can just randomly like just we of,
like as quickly as you canthe most famous person that you know.
Kanye.
Yeah.
No, not the famous anime fan, Kanye,I'll tell you like that.
I mean, he's stronger.
It was basically his musicvideo was inspired by Akira.

(42:24):
I think that's true.
Yeah, but it wasn't his thing.
No, his thing was inspired by Daft Punk,which was inspired by Akira,
but was also Akira vibes.
But he basically has direct connotationsto stronger
having Akira esque inspiration.
Oh no, but that's what I'm saying.
That's like.
That's not thethe the inspiration that he's.
I guess I get where you're coming frombecause whether

(42:46):
directly or indirectly, ultimately,you know, the inspiration is Akira.
But like what I'm saying ishe's like stronger.
I'm notmistaken, was inspired by like, Daft Punk.
Stronger. Oh no he's he's yeah.
He he sampled that but can't,can't two things be true visuals.
Yeah.
Can't two things be true thoughbecause because Akira
definitely was an inspirationin the music video for stronger.

(43:07):
Yeah, you can tell that the whole scenewas all bandaged up and he doesn't.
Yeah, yeah, I believe he even like,I think he's been quoted
basically mentioning that Akira was fairenough.
Like so let's say for example, actually,no, let's not use conjugate.
It's not a good example.
Snoop Dogg, because he wouldn't show upat like a convention,
someone who you could believewould show up at a convention, let's say,

(43:30):
like Snoop Dogg, for example.
I give it a shot to say,but let's not forget, this is Kanye.
You don't ever assumethat he will do something.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know what to do. Yes.
So Snoop Dogg, because he does. He'sdoing all the side missions.
He got the conventions.
Like, why is this happening?
Okay, Dragon Ball Z cool.
So why isn't Snoop Doggshowing up at an anime convention then?

(43:51):
Or, Comic-Con?
Do you go?
I mean, do we know this full effect?
I just want just to say just becausehe actually has popped into one.
But I mean, if you want,we can quickly Google it now.
But I just have to say it that, yeah,you don't see that
or even like, let's play, let's put it tolike let's say for example, the UK here.
Yeah, there are people who are well known.

(44:11):
All right.
For example, let's say like, I don't know,
actually, I don't,I can't use footballers as an example
because they would probably be playingfootball at a time, not a would guy.
But someone else, there'sdefinitely someone else out here
who's probably saidthat they are a fan of anime.
They're a big fan of anime.
Alright, that's super,super massive anime. But like

(44:33):
yeah,they've never been to a con or something.
It's not just a thing of like,okay, I'm just a fan of anime.
I'm not really into anime culture. Is it?
Just you would assume anyway that like,
they might show up at one of these things
at one point or another, or so let's say?
So injured some kind of scenarioI'm picturing if there was, for example,

(44:55):
let's just say X celebritywho says, oh, I like anime,
but they don't go to conventionsnormally, unless, for example, at a panel
or maybe thethey getting paid to be there,
they wouldn't actually show upcasually just to go, oh, you know what,
let me get tickets to thisbecause I fox of it people, you know,
because that celebrity peoplewould probably,
you know, make a point to goand speak to them.

(45:15):
Most people that they probably don't want.
I mean, if you're if you care about anime
that much, you, you,you immerse yourself into the culture.
Yeah.
The thing about celebrities probablyget sick of being approached on the street
and they go, oh, maybe an
in an enclosed environment like a con.
That might be a bit hard, but you

(45:36):
but you do see some celebrities go to consand actually do panels and stuff.
So isn't that the same thing?
No, because it's the same environment.
This isn't same environment whatnot.
And you know,they've got this way in areas
wherever they go to where they're a bit,separate.
And, you know, the main public and theycharge 500 pounds for the autograph, bro.

(45:57):
They've alreadythat's 95% of the people done right.
That's it.
So yeah, I can see I wouldn't want to go.
And they might have been once.
I'm not like that. You never know.
Coins aren't really how they used to be.Well, the UK anyway.
I can't speak for America.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They've only just I can tell

(46:17):
that also we went to.
We didI don't know it's getting back to pre
mcm it's getting back to pre-COVID
levels in terms of like putting effortinto like other things.
Were you there for thethe Tekken tournament?
Yes, that was a good friend.
Peach was one of the commentatorson that one.

(46:37):
Man. Woman.
Woman.
Peach.
I remember, too, that in there.
Is that the last one we went to?
It wasn't. We went to, you know,we were in the bean bags and all that.
Yeah.
Yeah,I think I see you guys are in every step.
And you go, you've got,
you go for pretty high profile.

(46:59):
How would you,
if you ever see your anime friends,how do you express your anime fandom.
Would you be loud with itor would you keep it under wraps.
Would you be like, are you are you doingthe showing off icons type thing?
Or are you just like,whatever, is it going to influence
the kind of work that you take on?
Yeah, I like to gamble on this.
People project some voice acting.

(47:22):
Well, projectscome along along the way, you know,
other than cons to
here and there,depending on how those initial experience
it would go with dictatehow involved I am in coins.
Kind of think

(47:42):
I would deal withpeople just calling you a producer
if theycall me a clout chase or anything, like.
Yeah, you know,this island is not really about design.
Meeting is about that life thing.
He said he's come up with stuff,but he doesn't even know
about the five apostles or,you know, the eight.

(48:05):
It reminds me of B.
What was it?
An example someone else gave regarding,is the Five apostles actually a thing in
I just made out oh five and oh,the God hand that's in a God hand.
That's five members of the quorum,not the five apostles.
If someone challengesmy anime credentials, then I would just
say, look, bro,
you may very well know more than I do,

(48:28):
but I know enough, bro, to to let you know
the I really I'm down for this thing.
I'm not just a casual fan.Yeah. I hear just watching.
I don't know what a casual watchis all about.
Anime that you probably don't even knowabout the 12 Kingdoms or academia.
I've mentioned it several times,and anybody here know what it was about?

(48:50):
No, that's what I'm saying.
No TV, this is actually true.
If you're basically,I think it'll be a thing where
if you are really into anime,it's going to be evident.
No one will be able to,especially have a lot about it.
No one will be able to questionthat about it.
Unless you're a super good actorwho's very good at like, no.
But like for example, the question
make the studyand they also question Michael B Jordan.

(49:12):
So I don't think that's necessarily validbecause I, I would say
a very generic descriptionof a proper anime fan is someone that
knows the
the mainstream ones, but then they alsobranch out into, you know,
which we've had to do recentlybecause variety.
Yeah,
it's not like you would be reinforced.

(49:34):
I know it was.
I've,
made a point, you know, because of youguys and, you know, just to expand
the repertoire of not being stuck on lowpower fantasy action stuff.
Yeah. And it's helped.
I'm the best I've been the better for it
because I don't know if back in the dayI would have watched the 12 Kingdoms.

(49:55):
Yeah. As on my free random.
But yeah you were making before is.
Yeah the mainstream ones are dragonloses and bleaches and whatnot.
Then you got 12 kingdoms.
For for me some some chino's journey,you know, journey that's doing the cause.
It is, death parade.

(50:17):
Oh, the parade is my favorite topics.
These are all your ones? Yeah.
You man rock with.
I might not necessarily go for them,but that's what I'm saying.
We've all got our own ones that we.
Yeah,I think it's in also with how you explain
or like demonstrate your story in anime.
Because if, for example,you're explaining your love for berserk
after listening toyou talk about it for three minutes,

(50:37):
no one's gonna say, yeah, he's not anime.
Then you go, I think it's very hardto fake passion as well, you know?
I swear, if you if you speak about.
I mean, I show a cyclamen.
Oh, no.
You know,that's what I call man confidence.
And I convince it was that con, Netflix.
I went to Cannes. Great pretender,literally the great pretender.
And this show, The Great Pretender.
You have the gift of the gab. Yeah, yeah.

(51:00):
And it's going to be hard to fake that,you know, we are talking about and know
you really, really have a passionfor the topic.
It'll be like megoing to like a chess grandmaster
and trying tobasically talk about gambits.
Rook to e4.
I mean, you don't know about Castle,do you?

(51:20):
So yeah.
What was the question again?
Nuts.
Like, if you question me. Yeah.
I was just like, how would ifhow would you do some collaboration?
And then I'm going to referthe same question to you.
After sum up, they may very well know
more than me, an enemy as a whole,
but I would be able to prove,at least I hope, that people believe.

(51:41):
What is proof that,
And I know my team,
well, I think if you're if you're so.
Yeah, you express your anime fandom.
If you if you do like,you love it till you,
are you at every Con
I, you are that.

(52:01):
Yeah.
Are you saying how much you love Naruto?
Naturally. I'm. I'm glad about it.
I'm basically making surethat when people think about anime,
they like my name is also, like,associated with that thought process.
It'll be a thing where, like.
Like we're going to do about to makeand selling.
People basically use her as the faceof like anime emotes a celebrity.

(52:23):
So much so that you have like Crunchyroll
reaching out to her to do like,like the like hosting the wars and stuff.
It'll be a thingwhere like if I was just everyone I was in
that she in this positionto showcase my craft.
If I was a rapper, for example,it'll be in my songs.
If I was,if I was a big in like sponsorships
and we're in the hoodies,it'll be it'll be evident from

(52:45):
I would guide my way to execbe an executive producer for a quality.
You put your money where your mouthis, you'll be like, cool, whatever.
We will do it again.
We're taking it back.I'm putting my money into it.
It will. Basically,we pretend that things don't even exist.
And are you?
I don't know if you've seen it.

(53:06):
The, The fan made that it wasthat Chinese,
fan made fight with Goku and Vegeta.
No. I saw future go on up against androids17 and 18, brought it right?
This guy was flying.
Oh, live action version.
Live action fan, mate. Yeah. Sick.

(53:26):
No, no. Some good five, ten minuteslong as well.
Some of those family
pieces are so good future that I mighthave brought you here in hockey.
And you're the super say so the finance.
So you'll put your moneywhere your mouth is, you'll be in love,
but you're also basicallybacking back and acting, bro.
No, my credentials are platinum playerthen.
So we.
Yeah, but I what about you?

(53:48):
Pleasing.
I don't know if you can copy.
Do you know what the thing is?
I think, just this way in general.
And so I don't think I'd be, superloud of on any funding, but I would.
It's not an under wraps things do that.
I mean, even to drawing more fans,you know, just to let people know
is my first book, but I'll let people knowthat I'm not a big fan.

(54:09):
You know, them kind of things that like,
would I show up to cons?
Like just, you know, like just,oh, buy a ticket and pull up type thing?
I don't know, I'm not going to,I don't know,
maybe I'm.
You know, maybe
I don't know,I think I haven't panels, can't.

(54:29):
Well, if I like, if I'm doing a panel.
Well, yeah, but I also kind of.
I'm doing a panel by, by.
And I might just dare to just be there.
If I was to just go out,have to cosplay and,
probably not in a waythat my face isn't, my appearance and.
Right.
But just be there the night. So maybe
we'd have to say, I don't know.
Depends on how I'm feeling today.

(54:51):
But yeah, I'll just say somethingreally, really random.
We even speak about celebrities,and I just want to basically,
read a list of celebritiesthat are into anime.
I mean, honestly,if you guys are surprised by
I know these names just really quickly.
So we have Michael B Jordan,who we've mentioned before.
We have Megan Thee Stallion,Samuel Jackson, we have Jamie Lee Curtis
I'll saygo and say yeah we have Ariana Grande.

(55:11):
There we go Kanye West.
And you know what I mean.
She loves Spirited Away so muchso that she has a tattoo.
Is it right? Yeah.
But this, you know.
Okay, so this is also another,
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, does really, really messy movejust one thing, make you an anime fan
You just a fan of that thing?
Like, let's say.

(55:32):
So for example,we're taking Ariana Grande.
Maybe she just really like Spirited Away.
Does that make her an anime family?
Doesn't make a fan of Spirited Away?
If I'm in the Zinetsu andI only know no one attack.
Does that not make me a great swordsman?
I mean, no, not really
the net.
See, the net sees the sleepinglike less warm.
Like sleeping.
Oh, like if Iif I know one one's technique.

(55:54):
But I know it to a great degree.
Am I, am I still a swordsman?
No. I mean, you're a guy who
knows how to slash one way.
That's why saying no.
But to be honest, it's like saying. Right?
I mean, Bruce Lee did say, I fear the manwho practices one kick a thousand times.
If I can wax on, does that meanI can't wax off?

(56:16):
Well, I don't know.
I don't know.
All right, so I've got it all go.
We have, Elon Musk, apparently,who's into Death Note and Evangelion.
Do you know what I can I canI took a picture of that.
He looks like he would be in for that.
Don’t let this man
near any kind of Death Note.
Or Shinigami.
Oh, wait. Evangelion. The mecha one.

(56:37):
Yeah, yeah.
Evolution of this stuff.
No, I can't fully believe that he's.
It'll be the end times.
John Cena, the lateRobin Williams was John Cena.
John Cena was really into Dragon BallZ, he admitted,
Dragon Ball Z, Naruto,One Piece is but ten again.
He could be. He could be a fake actor.
I mean, he's

(56:57):
not a good actor, so I don't know.
It was in the middle, I don't know.
It's funny that he made The Peacemakerand I haven't watched peacemaker.
I mean, watch them.
I think he when he's like met serious.
And I'm like, bro,I believe in peace, I love it,
I love it with all my heart and soulso much that every man, woman and child,
oh, I see, I see, I see,I see that clip on socials.

(57:20):
Yeah.
Serious,he said I believe in peace so much.
I'll kill any man, woman and child I have to to uphold peace.
I don't look back.
I'm gonnaI'm going to find more really quickly.
You have, Leonard Di Caprio,Jennifer Lawrence, Chris Hemsworth,
Emma Stone,Tom cruise, Emma Stone, Tom cruise.

(57:44):
What are some cruisewhich I lied about the last five.
Oh, run.
Yeah,
but it's Jennifer Lawrence.
I swear Itadori from JJK Loves.
I'm sorry about asking you this, okay?
He basically mentions that he wants a girllike Jennifer Lawrence.
So you look,you see stuff like this? Yeah.

(58:04):
This is why, let's say, for example, you.
If he was a celebrity, you people wouldn'tbelieve that you are real out of me.
Because you always ask, like,who's every every other character
Like, who's that?
Oh. Wait a minute, loophole.
Well, if you like animehow do you not know what his name is?
No. But then I'm like, look, bro,
I know the story,

(58:25):
but it justwhatever reason, my memory doesn't.
Doesn't.
It's also what he tells.
But yeah that's it.
That's for me out of the country.
You know I like that. What else are you.
Fair enough about that.
I was going to say even say Oprah Winfrey.
But I know you guys want to believethat. Yeah.
Over the TV that Oprah don't watch TV.

(58:48):
She owns it. Oh you
But, Yeah.
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