April 9, 2025 • 28 mins
Gabe Cox is a goal planning and business strategist who teaches how to market your business without relying on social media, so you can ditch the hustle culture for good.
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Gabe is back today to share simple tips for setting goals that work for different times in life and help you succeed over the long term. She talks about why it’s good to have a flexible plan, be open to changing your plan, and make sure your business goals align with your personal values and life situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you planning your goals in 2025 and questioning
like how specific should they be?
What do you do for timelines?
What do we do if we mess up?
Should we put all of our eggsin one basket or should there be
a really solid plan B?
If you're curious, we have ourguest, gabe Cox, right back here
.
She was with us on the previousepisode and it was a lovely one
(00:23):
.
That one is linked up in theshow notes below, but if this is
your first time hearing, do youwant to introduce Gabe Jamie?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
So Gabe is a goal planning and business strategist
and the founder of Red HotMindset, which you can listen to
the previous episode to hearhow she got that name.
She helps entrepreneurspersonalize and take action on a
game plan that works with theircapacity in different seasons.
They don't have to sacrificeeverything to hit their goals,
(00:51):
and she teaches how to marketyour business without relying on
social media, which I find veryinteresting in today's day and
age, so that you can ditch thehustle culture for good.
So welcome back, gabe.
We're so glad to have you here.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, thanks for having me Excited for this topic
conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So are we quite frankly, so are we.
So I've heard two views.
One view is burn the proverbialship, so you have no recourse
and you must make plan A work asfar as setting a goal.
And the other view is that well, have like a very well thought
out plan B that you can fallback on if plan A doesn't work.
(01:30):
In your experience personally,and then in your experience
coaching folks, which one do youthink is great and which one do
you think is trash?
I love this question.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It comes from experience.
I've done both ways, okay.
I have burned the ships.
I have done the plan a and youhave to go all in and sacrifice
everything and do that thinguntil you get there, and where
that leads usually is to burnoutit or to us quitting on our
goals because it's just so rigid.
(02:03):
There is no room for error,there is no room for flexibility
, there is no give for theseason you're in, and so when I
was in that side of things, Iactually was working with a
multi-level marketing business.
So I've been in business forover 20 years now in different
capacities, and that one, it waslike we, you know, left our
(02:27):
kids with our parents, went toconferences, went to meetings,
went to we did all the things,but it was like focus on that
one thing, do it this one wayand it'll work for you, and we
were just too stubborn to giveup on that.
But what it did is it reallysacrificed our peace?
It sacrificed our family time,it sacrificed where we were
(02:47):
really being called Okay.
So that is, burn the ships, dothe one thing.
So there's that side and it ledto like, straight out, burnout.
The other side have plan B.
Now some people like, well, ifyou have plan B, then is that an
excuse not to do plan A?
You have plan b, then is thatan excuse not to do plan?
(03:11):
a well, I actually think youneed plan c, d, e, f, g, h, I, j
all the way down, because plana never happens okay, rarely
happens, it never goes the wayyou think it's gonna go.
So if you burn, you burn theshifts and you go only plan a
and you only focus on it, you'renot gonna get to where you want
to go.
Plan B great, have another wayto get there, right.
But it doesn't always happenthat way either.
(03:32):
So I would say I lean moretoward the plan B.
But I actually lean toward thethird option, which is create
the plan and have flexibility,knowing it may not be plan A, b
or C, but knowing that you'rewilling to rework the plan until
you.
Flexibility, knowing it may notbe plan A, b or C, but knowing
that you're willing to reworkthe plan until you hit the goal,
if you're still being called tothat goal.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Rework the plan until you hit the goal.
This makes me think of it's notmy own analogy, listener, you
probably have heard this too buthow there is an autopilot on an
airplane sooner.
You probably have heard thistoo but how there is an
autopilot on an airplane and soit might take off from atlanta,
georgia, with the destination ofparis, for the long-awaited
paris trip.
(04:12):
That hasn't happened since 2022.
Just fitting that one in thereyeah, just throw that in there,
actually not that long ago notthat long, not that long ago,
but it could be sooner and sothe plane is traveling and the
autopilot, you, you think likethe plane is directed directly
at Paris, you know, and it kindof is, but with prevailing winds
that are blowing against theplane and all these other
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factors, the autopilot iscontinually making course
corrections to keep that planeon track.
Is that kind of what you'retalking about by having a plan B
, c, d and just being willing totweak a bit?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, exactly, because you never know what
roadblocks are going to comeright.
You might have a detour, and so, for kind of my example too is
like you can't really get to adestination without mapping it
out.
You have to know where to go,or how to what turns to take,
what exits to go on.
But let's say you only havethat one direction, you only
know how to what turns to take,you know what exits to go on,
but let's say you only have thatone direction, you only know
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how to get there one way, andyou each were.
Now you have to decide am Ijust going to turn around and go
home because I don't know howto get there, or do I find a
different way and you know, getaround this detour and that's
how I see like having even.
I don't even think you have todefine what is plan B, what is
plan C, but just knowing thatthere might be a way that you
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need to shift and it's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Right, there's often so many things that are outside
of our control.
You know, in online business,there's, you know, things that
are always changing.
There's algorithms that arechanging.
I mean, as Facebook andInstagram ads managers, we're
constantly seeing meta justmaking changes like, oh, that
wasn't there before, or now youcan do this, or now you can't do
(05:53):
that and so all these littlethings.
I often think about a quickpersonal story.
When we were living in Xiamen,china, and we were, we had
gotten our teachingcertifications and so, like, our
end goal was we wanted to workat an international school, and
so, like, we actually had ourplan A, B and C was like this
was back in 2010,.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Right, keep going.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
This is a good story.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Nine 10, 11, 11, 12, 12, 13.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We're getting lost in time, it doesn't matter.
The point is is that we, ourfirst goal was to work at this,
this international school inXiamen, like we were going to.
We did our student teachingthere and so, like plan A was we
both get jobs there for thefollowing school year.
Plan B is maybe they only hireone of us and then the other one
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will keep working, maybe at alocal school.
Plan C was neither of us getshired but maybe, like one of us
or both of us can still do likesome intern work there, kind of
know, as Quajo talked with thedirector of the school, like
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there were things that wereoutside of our control where
they actually could not hire usbecause of, you know, we had to
have, you know, two years ofexperience and things with the
government and visas and blah,blah, blah.
And so we were like, oh so nowour plan A, b and C just kind of
went up in smoke.
But then God just opened anotherdoor, like within two days,
(07:27):
literally, at another school andanother city and just literally
, like just lined everything up,had two ESL positions, that
which is what we both wanted forthe following school year, and
it was just all these thingsthat lined up.
That was like our initialliterally three plans did not
work out but then, like thiswhole other door opened and we
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still had that end goal of bothbeing teachers at this inner,
you know, at an internationalschool and you know, like got
moved to another city that wehadn't even considered, or you
know how quickly did that happen?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
was that like within a week?
It was within a week, because II remember I was like walking
down the street during like thelunch break at like a part-time
teaching job I had, and I waspraying and I felt like god was
like hey, tell like this, whatwas it like the principal or
something yeah, like call thisdude up and tell him your plans
really quick.
(08:21):
And I was like, huh, okay, thisis all right.
And so I called him and metwith him, and then he dropped
that bombshell like hey, youknow, none of those plans would
actually work, um, but they weresupposed to be able to work,
but everything had changed,right.
And then just that next week Ithink was it friends that came
into town this is bythanksgiving, I don't know and
(08:42):
at any rate, it all happened,really quick, it all happened
super quickly and it was such ananswer to prayer and we had a
cool school and two jobs thatwere in the same department
where we got to work together soyeah
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I love that I, like your, have your plan a, but just
know that and you know severalother people that we've
interviewed on the podcast aswell that just things change
that were out of your control.
And how are you going to kindof navigate those changes within
your business and say, hey, Iwas going to offer this, but
then this changed.
My audience actually wants thisinstead, and so, like, things
(09:18):
are always kind of shifting andyou just have to kind of make
those changes, right, you can'tjust hold fast to that one thing
if it's not working.
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that's a really goodanalogy because it's like plan A
is so that we can do the work,because you can't steer a parked
car, you have to take action inorder to hit your goal.
You can't just manifest itright, like you can't just think
about it all the time and it'llhappen.
You have to take the action,but you have to have a plan for
that.
But then when you're too rigidwith that plan, then you have
(09:49):
those issues.
So that way, with theflexibility, then you can see
those open doors when they'rethere, right, instead of just
having blinders are good, butnot blinders to the plan,
because that's not going to beexactly how it turns out.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Right.
So I wanna know about how tomake a goal.
I see here see it, plan it, doit.
And as far as choosing a goaland getting the goal done, gabe,
I would love for you to talkabout those right after.
I ask our listener for a favor.
(10:24):
Dear listener, here's thatfavor.
Can you comment below do youlike to hear more about our
personal lives?
I know I'm really curious,though, because on a podcast, I
feel like the episodes can bevery transactional.
There's a title, you click andwe only talk about that, and
(10:46):
after 50 episodes of gettingvaluable content, you know
nothing about us, and I amgenuinely wondering how to fit
in more of the personal side,because, like in real life, if
we were going to hang out withsomebody or do business with
them, we would hang out Like wewould go get coffee, and so I'm
like I'm quite curious, and so Iam looking specifically at the
(11:10):
comments on this episode, and ifyou got any ideas or if you
remember anything that we sharedabout us that resonated with
you or you're just like, yeah,we would like to know a lot more
about, like your personal lifeslipped into various episodes,
like now would be the time totell us.
And if you're listening to theaudio version of this podcast,
there is a link straight over tothe YouTube channel, this
(11:32):
specific episode, in the shownotes below, and you can leave a
comment too.
It would mean a lot to jamieand I yeah, I'd be curious to
know.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, super curious to know, all right gabe all
right well, see if planet do it,break it down for us.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I don't do it.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I love it.
Well, I'll tell, I do lovehearing about like personal life
things and transitions andupdates in episodes.
So, just so you know there's mylittle take on it.
All right, but yeah, see it,plan it, do it.
That is my simple three pillarsto crush your goals in a stress
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less, no hustle way.
And, like I said in lastepisode, I love all things
simple.
I'm like how?
My one of the questions that Iask in everything that I do is
how can I blink?
Simply.
So how can I, you know, runthis launch?
Simply.
How can I build out thisconference?
Simply, how can I do my goals?
Simply, you know.
(12:32):
How can I get this one X thing?
Simply Because I know I have afull plate, I know you all have
a full plate, and so it's likeadding this thing on to what
you're already doing might seemnear impossible because we're
stuck in the finish line.
We're stuck there, right.
So I'm a marathon runner, I'mall about running analogies, so
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you're probably gonna hear a fewof them.
That's what my books arelabeled.
They're not even for runners,but that's the title.
But essentially like if you'relooking at the finish line, if
you're looking at the summit,and that's all you see.
Then it feels so daunting andit feels so impossible and the
anxiety rushes, like how am Igoing to get this to go Right?
So the three pillars see it,plan it, do it.
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See, it is really about takingthat big vision.
I love dreaming, I lovethinking about what, if I could
do anything, if nothing wereimpossible to me, what would I
want to do?
Like that's where I would startand get that big vision.
Think about what is that biggoal that you have?
But we don't end there, becauseif you have make a plan for
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that big goal, then you don'treally have these stepping
stones to think about.
You don't have, you can't seethe results that you are
probably, you probably have alot of results along the way,
but you don't think you do,you're like're, like I am no
further in the process.
I don't know if any of you havebeen like I.
Just I feel like I've done somuch today but I've done nothing
right.
(13:59):
That's how it is when you takethat huge vision and that's all
you're looking at.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm cracking up, because he says this like every
day.
He's like how is it already oneo'clock and I've done nothing
today?
And and I'm like but you didthis, this, this, like we sit
right next to each other when wework, Right, and I'm like I've
seen you do like a millionthings, he's like, but I still
feel like I've done nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
But I haven't finished anything.
Yeah, exactly Right.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But the list is still so long, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
To clarify, but the to-do list is still so long.
Yeah, to clarify.
To clarify, because I am aFacebook and Instagram ads
manager specifically, thefrustration can be like days
will go by where I finish thethings I'm supposed to finish in
client accounts.
So I'm working in the business,but then I'm not necessarily
having the time I need to workon the business, to advance the
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business towards business goals,rather than just keeping
operations going well.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I feel like I need to give that clarification.
Let's be like what?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
is going on behind the scenes Honestly, I think
that a lot of them are probablylike oh, I, you're totally in my
head, I totally did the samething.
I actually did accomplish 10things, but I felt like I did
nothing Right, Like that's justhow we are, Our brain,
especially if you're an achiever, like you find a project and
you're like I got to do thattoday or yesterday, you know,
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and so we just don't feel likewe're getting anywhere even
though we are, and that's likelooking at that big vision.
So once you have that big visionand you know it, writing it
down is really important.
I do say post a picture, writeit down.
Now I am not one who's going tosay I don't teach manifestation
, okay, I don't teach that youcan just look at it and think
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about it all the time and thenyou'll magically get it.
Okay, that is not where I teach.
I teach that you write it downand make it plain and so that
you can see it, because the moreyou see it, the more apt you're
going to be to do somethingabout it, because action is what
matters, right?
So that's the see it, get thatvision, see that big thing.
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But then we're going to plan it.
And how we're going to plan itis we're going to reverse
engineer that big goal becausewe want to create multiple goals
out of it.
We're going to create what Ilike to call stepping stone
goals.
And these goals now your goalcould be monetary.
It could be I want to earn ahundred thousand dollars in the
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next year or two.
Okay, that could be a goal.
But when you break it down, itcan't be about the monetary, it
can't be like I'm going to have10 new clients, okay, because
you have no control over that.
Like we were talking aboutbefore.
You don't always have controlover how things go, but you can
control how much action you puttoward it.
So those stepping stone goals Ilike to think about as like
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projects.
So here's something I have todo in order to get to that next
goal.
So, for example, we'll take itinto a marathon.
I want to run a marathon.
I want to finish.
I've never run one before breakit down.
I have to run a half marathon,okay.
So I, if I can't hit a halfmarathon, I'm not going to hit a
marathon.
So in order to hit a halfmarathon, I have to hit a 6k or
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10k.
So six miles, right.
And in order to do that, I needto do a 5k.
I got to run three miles and Iactually have to run my first
mile if I've never run a mile,okay.
So those would be like thestepping stone goals.
In business, it might look likemy goal is to hit 100,000 in
revenue, but in order to do that, I you kind of have to think
about how much money or how manyclients maybe you need in order
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to hit that, right, so then itmight be okay.
I do need to hit 10 clients amonth, okay, but that wouldn't
be your goal.
Your goal would be okay, howmany people do you need to talk
to in order to usually, likeaverage, make it hit that next
client or get that next 10clients?
It might be 100 people, okay,so that would be where, where I
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would look at.
Okay, I know I need to talk to100 people in order to find 10
new clients, so that is my goal.
My goal is to talk to 100people this month, right, so
kind of thinking that way whenit comes to the numbers, because
I think sometimes we get stuckon the numbers.
I like to get stuck on what canI do?
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And then it's like I do thework and I leave the results to
God, right and so, but anyway.
But we break it down into somesmaller projects and the reason
I like to do that is because,one, it's easier to shift if you
see that you need to.
But also, once you hit that onegoal, because it's smaller,
it's more doable.
I, you want to do that withinlike 30 to 90 days.
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You don't want a goal that'slike the stepping stone goals.
You don't want them to belonger than 90 days.
Do a 90 day run, 30 day run,because otherwise we get weary
and like it's not happening.
It's probably just too big of agoal.
We want it to be doable andrealistic for these smaller ones
, because once you hit that goal, you see the results.
It's like I just had a win andthen we celebrate that win and
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then we can go, okay, what'sthat next project, what's that
next stepping stone?
And so we're not really lookingat that big vision anymore,
we're just looking at the nextright step Right.
And it's funny because as we dothat and we look, then we're
looking, we're like, wow, we'reway further than we thought we
were.
Wow, I do see that we startthinking and believing that that
bigger vision can come true.
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Because the hard part is, mostpeople look at that big vision
but they don't quite believe ityet.
So we need to set goals that weactually believe and so once we
believe that one, we canbelieve a little bit more, and
then we can believe a little bitmore.
We just build that confidenceand we build that actually even
stamina like the intention ofour actions, and we build the
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actions and consistency and thehabits that we need in order to
see the thing through.
So that's really the planet,part of it.
So, like breaking it down, andI would even break down those
smaller stepping stone goals toOkay.
So what's the my weekly tasksfor that?
Like, what does that look like?
Okay, what's my daily habits?
What does that look like If Ican only do one thing toward my
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goal this week?
What's the most important thing?
Right?
And then planning doesn't stopthere.
I always say have a weekly planwith yourself when it comes to
your business goals or even justyour life goals, right?
Like I had a weekly planningwith myself with my marathon
training.
How did it go last week?
Did I get the training in?
Did I do enough hill work?
Did I do the speed work?
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Am I on track?
Did I miss anything?
What obstacles came?
What distractions came?
Can I fix that for next week?
Right?
And so it's really importantfor us to check in, and the
check in is the way that we go.
Okay, we're going on the righttrack.
We're staying the course.
We're staying on plan A for now.
Nope, we need to shift a littlebit.
We're going to plan A minus,right?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We're going to plan B right.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So that is the planning stage, and planning
doesn't end.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Can I interject something really quick?
Yeah, I love that.
This is so practical and doinglike you said, doing those
check-ins and actuallyevaluating where you're at right
, and not one on the one handnot beating yourself up like, oh
man, I didn't do this week, butjust what do I need to do to
stay on track, because we can beso led by our feelings.
(21:17):
Well, I felt like I feel likeI've reached out to so many
people and like another businesscoach that we've worked with is
so I love that.
She's so, so practical and likehaving the spreadsheet and
everything and, like you know,reaching out.
If you just reach out, it's anumbers game most of the time,
right, if you just reach out tofive people a day, you know
that's 25 people a week, that's100 people a month, like you
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were saying, you know, and it'sjust a numbers game.
And then who is supposed tocome into your business will
come in.
But you are taking that, thoseactionable steps to put in the
work and to get towards yourgoals of, you know, x number of
clients, new clients each monthor something, but it's like it's
, you know, she often has peoplein, you know, in the group.
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They're like well, I'm just notgetting any new clients and I
just I feel like I've beenreaching out to all these people
and she's like what are yournumbers say?
What does the spreadsheet say?
You know like who exactly haveyou reached out to?
How many you know?
And just keep at it.
And so it's.
I love the practicality of that.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Well, the evaluating is so important because then you
can look at it and go Iactually did reach out to a
hundred people and I didn't geta new client.
Okay, well, let's look at it.
Were they the right people?
What was the messaging like?
What do we need to tweak to tryit again?
Right?
Or you might be like oh, I didget another few clients.
Holy cow, I did work.
Okay, I just need to keep doingit.
Well, when you broke it downlike that, jamie, where it was
like I just have to talk to fivepeople a day, that sounds so
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much more realistic than I haveto talk that down.
Well, five people a day, you cando that in a half hour.
That's where I think about itwhat's doable and realistic for
your season?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Realistic.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Realistic.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I need to learn how to be realistic with my goals.
Before we talk a little bitabout the do it.
I guess we already startedtalking about the do it.
Right do it.
I guess we already startedtalking about the do it.
But you have a masterclass andon that page it says if you are
more than ready to finally takethat desire inside your heart
from conception to the finishline, this is for you.
You want to share a bit moreabout that for the listener, and
(23:24):
the link is in the descriptionbelow.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Absolutely so.
This masterclass, it's thethree pillars to setting and
questioning goals in a stresslesson.
Oh, that's a way long, I know,but it is essentially what we're
talking about here, but in moredepth.
So what does the see it looklike?
And I give you that visual lookand we do some practical
exercises on crafting that bigvision.
How do you plan it?
(23:48):
That's the hardest part, Ithink, for people because we get
stuck in our plan.
So how do we plan it with thatflexibility?
And then the secret sauce toactually taking action that
works, because we can takeaction all day long, like we we
talked about in the last episode.
We talked about how socialmedia was like banging my head
against the wall trying to getclients right, and it didn't
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work for me.
So I was taking the action, butit was not the right action for
me and my business, and so it'slike how do you find that, how
do you evaluate that, how do youmake those shifts and how do
you really get to that finishline without having to sacrifice
family?
Because that was the thing.
Like I had mentioned in thebeginning of this episode, I did
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go to burnout.
I've done that a couple of timesto go after my goal and like
thinking about it all the timeand doing it, and that's my main
focus.
Well, when you have otherresponsibilities, it can't be
your only focus, and so I don'twant to sacrifice my family, I
don't want to sacrifice my peace, I don't want to sacrifice
living in the moment, likethat's.
One of my biggest goals thisyear is just to live in the
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moment and be present wherever Iam.
If I'm at work, I'm at work.
If I'm at home, I'm at home,right, and so that's what this
workshop is going to do is goingto help break that down and
give you like a realisticstrategy to start working toward
that next big goal that youhave.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Wow, it's really good .
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I almost feel like that could be the end of the
episode.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I know it's powerful.
Yeah.
Do you have anything else youwant to ask?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think I would ask you to leave just to say a final
thought, a final thoughtrelating to actually doing the
work that it takes to get toyour goals and then we'll end
the episode there.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, that sounds great.
So the do it part is the workpart and, honestly, it's the fun
part If we're willing to.
And I know sometimes when we'replanning and we're shifting,
sometimes it can feel like it'san excuse not to do the work.
But that's not the point.
We don't stop working justbecause not working.
We might shift it and dosomething different, but it's
almost like the waiting isactive as well.
(25:53):
So we keep doing until.
So you keep doing that workuntil either you're told to
shift in some way or it's notworking.
Then you shift it because it'snot working.
And so really, that work comeswith consistency.
It comes with let's think aboutthat one or two, maybe three
things to do this week.
Don't overload your plate.
(26:14):
Don't be ambitious and thinkyou're going to do all the
things in one week, because ifyou don't hit all the goals you
have for that week, you're goingto feel like a failure.
Instead, think about what isthat one main thing that I need
to do to move my businessforward, to move my goal forward
and make sure that gets done.
Don't let things get in the wayof that.
(26:35):
Right, and so when we look atit in that way, it makes that
action so much more fun and somuch more doable and really
doing the action.
I like to talk about creatinghabits, but at the same time,
habits can become just that.
They can just become mundanepieces of our day when we have
no intention behind it.
So it's really about the actionneeds to be intentional.
(26:58):
What is my purpose behind whatI'm doing?
Am I posting a video just topost it, or is there a reason
behind it?
Is it going to make an impact?
Is it going to do the thingthat I want it to do?
I prefer quality over quantity.
To do the thing that I want itto do, I prefer quality over
quantity.
I prefer that you take thattime to really be purposeful in
what you do every day than tojust do menial things because
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you were told you needed to dothem.
So that would be myencouragement Be willing to do
it countercultural, be willingto do business differently.
Be willing to do goalsdifferently so that you can do
them in a way that aligns withyour values, with your capacity,
with your season and with whatyou enjoy.
Now your goal is you're goingto have hard times, like it's
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going to be hard.
That's why it's a goal, right.
If it weren't, if it were easy,we'd just have it all right,
like you will.
You can do hard things, andthere will be obstacles to
overcome.
Are you willing to overcomethem?
But it also needs to besomething.
If we don't enjoy it, if wedon't enjoy that journey, if we
don't enjoy the little things,then we won't stick with it, and
(28:04):
so it needs to be in alignmentwith what you really want it to
look like too.
So that would be myencouragement Do it differently.
It's okay to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Embrace different.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's really encouraging.
Thank you, Gabe.
Thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Thank you, listener, you've heard it.
If you want to hear more again,head down to the description
below so you can get thatwebinar and actually watch the
training about the three pillarsto setting and crushing goals
in a stress-less, no-hustle kindof way.
And, gabe, thank you for beingon this podcast and taking the
(28:40):
time to record this episode withus.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Absolutely Thanks for having me.
This was super fun.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's our honor.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Until you hear from us or see us next time, be
blessed, and we'll talk to yousoon.
Bye.
Are you planning your goals in 2025 and questioning
like how specific should they be?
What do you do for timelines?
What do we do if we mess up?
Should we put all of our eggsin one basket or should there be
a really solid plan B?
If you're curious, we have ourguest, gabe Cox, right back here
.
She was with us on the previousepisode and it was a lovely one
(00:23):
.
That one is linked up in theshow notes below, but if this is
your first time hearing, do youwant to introduce Gabe Jamie?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
So Gabe is a goal planning and business strategist
and the founder of Red HotMindset, which you can listen to
the previous episode to hearhow she got that name.
She helps entrepreneurspersonalize and take action on a
game plan that works with theircapacity in different seasons.
They don't have to sacrificeeverything to hit their goals,
(00:51):
and she teaches how to marketyour business without relying on
social media, which I find veryinteresting in today's day and
age, so that you can ditch thehustle culture for good.
So welcome back, gabe.
We're so glad to have you here.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, thanks for having me Excited for this topic
conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So are we quite frankly, so are we.
So I've heard two views.
One view is burn the proverbialship, so you have no recourse
and you must make plan A work asfar as setting a goal.
And the other view is that well, have like a very well thought
out plan B that you can fallback on if plan A doesn't work.
(01:30):
In your experience personally,and then in your experience
coaching folks, which one do youthink is great and which one do
you think is trash?
I love this question.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It comes from experience.
I've done both ways, okay.
I have burned the ships.
I have done the plan a and youhave to go all in and sacrifice
everything and do that thinguntil you get there, and where
that leads usually is to burnoutit or to us quitting on our
goals because it's just so rigid.
(02:03):
There is no room for error,there is no room for flexibility
, there is no give for theseason you're in, and so when I
was in that side of things, Iactually was working with a
multi-level marketing business.
So I've been in business forover 20 years now in different
capacities, and that one, it waslike we, you know, left our
(02:27):
kids with our parents, went toconferences, went to meetings,
went to we did all the things,but it was like focus on that
one thing, do it this one wayand it'll work for you, and we
were just too stubborn to giveup on that.
But what it did is it reallysacrificed our peace?
It sacrificed our family time,it sacrificed where we were
(02:47):
really being called Okay.
So that is, burn the ships, dothe one thing.
So there's that side and it ledto like, straight out, burnout.
The other side have plan B.
Now some people like, well, ifyou have plan B, then is that an
excuse not to do plan A?
You have plan b, then is thatan excuse not to do plan?
(03:11):
a well, I actually think youneed plan c, d, e, f, g, h, I, j
all the way down, because plana never happens okay, rarely
happens, it never goes the wayyou think it's gonna go.
So if you burn, you burn theshifts and you go only plan a
and you only focus on it, you'renot gonna get to where you want
to go.
Plan B great, have another wayto get there, right.
But it doesn't always happenthat way either.
(03:32):
So I would say I lean moretoward the plan B.
But I actually lean toward thethird option, which is create
the plan and have flexibility,knowing it may not be plan A, b
or C, but knowing that you'rewilling to rework the plan until
you.
Flexibility, knowing it may notbe plan A, b or C, but knowing
that you're willing to reworkthe plan until you hit the goal,
if you're still being called tothat goal.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Rework the plan until you hit the goal.
This makes me think of it's notmy own analogy, listener, you
probably have heard this too buthow there is an autopilot on an
airplane sooner.
You probably have heard thistoo but how there is an
autopilot on an airplane and soit might take off from atlanta,
georgia, with the destination ofparis, for the long-awaited
paris trip.
(04:12):
That hasn't happened since 2022.
Just fitting that one in thereyeah, just throw that in there,
actually not that long ago notthat long, not that long ago,
but it could be sooner and sothe plane is traveling and the
autopilot, you, you think likethe plane is directed directly
at Paris, you know, and it kindof is, but with prevailing winds
that are blowing against theplane and all these other
(04:34):
factors, the autopilot iscontinually making course
corrections to keep that planeon track.
Is that kind of what you'retalking about by having a plan B
, c, d and just being willing totweak a bit?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, exactly, because you never know what
roadblocks are going to comeright.
You might have a detour, and so, for kind of my example too is
like you can't really get to adestination without mapping it
out.
You have to know where to go,or how to what turns to take,
what exits to go on.
But let's say you only havethat one direction, you only
know how to what turns to take,you know what exits to go on,
but let's say you only have thatone direction, you only know
(05:07):
how to get there one way, andyou each were.
Now you have to decide am Ijust going to turn around and go
home because I don't know howto get there, or do I find a
different way and you know, getaround this detour and that's
how I see like having even.
I don't even think you have todefine what is plan B, what is
plan C, but just knowing thatthere might be a way that you
(05:30):
need to shift and it's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Right, there's often so many things that are outside
of our control.
You know, in online business,there's, you know, things that
are always changing.
There's algorithms that arechanging.
I mean, as Facebook andInstagram ads managers, we're
constantly seeing meta justmaking changes like, oh, that
wasn't there before, or now youcan do this, or now you can't do
(05:53):
that and so all these littlethings.
I often think about a quickpersonal story.
When we were living in Xiamen,china, and we were, we had
gotten our teachingcertifications and so, like, our
end goal was we wanted to workat an international school, and
so, like, we actually had ourplan A, B and C was like this
was back in 2010,.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Right, keep going.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
This is a good story.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Nine 10, 11, 11, 12, 12, 13.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We're getting lost in time, it doesn't matter.
The point is is that we, ourfirst goal was to work at this,
this international school inXiamen, like we were going to.
We did our student teachingthere and so, like plan A was we
both get jobs there for thefollowing school year.
Plan B is maybe they only hireone of us and then the other one
(06:44):
will keep working, maybe at alocal school.
Plan C was neither of us getshired but maybe, like one of us
or both of us can still do likesome intern work there, kind of
know, as Quajo talked with thedirector of the school, like
(07:06):
there were things that wereoutside of our control where
they actually could not hire usbecause of, you know, we had to
have, you know, two years ofexperience and things with the
government and visas and blah,blah, blah.
And so we were like, oh so nowour plan A, b and C just kind of
went up in smoke.
But then God just opened anotherdoor, like within two days,
(07:27):
literally, at another school andanother city and just literally
, like just lined everything up,had two ESL positions, that
which is what we both wanted forthe following school year, and
it was just all these thingsthat lined up.
That was like our initialliterally three plans did not
work out but then, like thiswhole other door opened and we
(07:49):
still had that end goal of bothbeing teachers at this inner,
you know, at an internationalschool and you know, like got
moved to another city that wehadn't even considered, or you
know how quickly did that happen?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
was that like within a week?
It was within a week, because II remember I was like walking
down the street during like thelunch break at like a part-time
teaching job I had, and I waspraying and I felt like god was
like hey, tell like this, whatwas it like the principal or
something yeah, like call thisdude up and tell him your plans
really quick.
(08:21):
And I was like, huh, okay, thisis all right.
And so I called him and metwith him, and then he dropped
that bombshell like hey, youknow, none of those plans would
actually work, um, but they weresupposed to be able to work,
but everything had changed,right.
And then just that next week Ithink was it friends that came
into town this is bythanksgiving, I don't know and
(08:42):
at any rate, it all happened,really quick, it all happened
super quickly and it was such ananswer to prayer and we had a
cool school and two jobs thatwere in the same department
where we got to work together soyeah
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I love that I, like your, have your plan a, but just
know that and you know severalother people that we've
interviewed on the podcast aswell that just things change
that were out of your control.
And how are you going to kindof navigate those changes within
your business and say, hey, Iwas going to offer this, but
then this changed.
My audience actually wants thisinstead, and so, like, things
(09:18):
are always kind of shifting andyou just have to kind of make
those changes, right, you can'tjust hold fast to that one thing
if it's not working.
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that's a really goodanalogy because it's like plan A
is so that we can do the work,because you can't steer a parked
car, you have to take action inorder to hit your goal.
You can't just manifest itright, like you can't just think
about it all the time and it'llhappen.
You have to take the action,but you have to have a plan for
that.
But then when you're too rigidwith that plan, then you have
(09:49):
those issues.
So that way, with theflexibility, then you can see
those open doors when they'rethere, right, instead of just
having blinders are good, butnot blinders to the plan,
because that's not going to beexactly how it turns out.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Right.
So I wanna know about how tomake a goal.
I see here see it, plan it, doit.
And as far as choosing a goaland getting the goal done, gabe,
I would love for you to talkabout those right after.
I ask our listener for a favor.
(10:24):
Dear listener, here's thatfavor.
Can you comment below do youlike to hear more about our
personal lives?
I know I'm really curious,though, because on a podcast, I
feel like the episodes can bevery transactional.
There's a title, you click andwe only talk about that, and
(10:46):
after 50 episodes of gettingvaluable content, you know
nothing about us, and I amgenuinely wondering how to fit
in more of the personal side,because, like in real life, if
we were going to hang out withsomebody or do business with
them, we would hang out Like wewould go get coffee, and so I'm
like I'm quite curious, and so Iam looking specifically at the
(11:10):
comments on this episode, and ifyou got any ideas or if you
remember anything that we sharedabout us that resonated with
you or you're just like, yeah,we would like to know a lot more
about, like your personal lifeslipped into various episodes,
like now would be the time totell us.
And if you're listening to theaudio version of this podcast,
there is a link straight over tothe YouTube channel, this
(11:32):
specific episode, in the shownotes below, and you can leave a
comment too.
It would mean a lot to jamieand I yeah, I'd be curious to
know.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, super curious to know, all right gabe all
right well, see if planet do it,break it down for us.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I don't do it.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I love it.
Well, I'll tell, I do lovehearing about like personal life
things and transitions andupdates in episodes.
So, just so you know there's mylittle take on it.
All right, but yeah, see it,plan it, do it.
That is my simple three pillarsto crush your goals in a stress
(12:11):
less, no hustle way.
And, like I said in lastepisode, I love all things
simple.
I'm like how?
My one of the questions that Iask in everything that I do is
how can I blink?
Simply.
So how can I, you know, runthis launch?
Simply.
How can I build out thisconference?
Simply, how can I do my goals?
Simply, you know.
(12:32):
How can I get this one X thing?
Simply Because I know I have afull plate, I know you all have
a full plate, and so it's likeadding this thing on to what
you're already doing might seemnear impossible because we're
stuck in the finish line.
We're stuck there, right.
So I'm a marathon runner, I'mall about running analogies, so
(12:55):
you're probably gonna hear a fewof them.
That's what my books arelabeled.
They're not even for runners,but that's the title.
But essentially like if you'relooking at the finish line, if
you're looking at the summit,and that's all you see.
Then it feels so daunting andit feels so impossible and the
anxiety rushes, like how am Igoing to get this to go Right?
So the three pillars see it,plan it, do it.
(13:18):
See, it is really about takingthat big vision.
I love dreaming, I lovethinking about what, if I could
do anything, if nothing wereimpossible to me, what would I
want to do?
Like that's where I would startand get that big vision.
Think about what is that biggoal that you have?
But we don't end there, becauseif you have make a plan for
(13:39):
that big goal, then you don'treally have these stepping
stones to think about.
You don't have, you can't seethe results that you are
probably, you probably have alot of results along the way,
but you don't think you do,you're like're, like I am no
further in the process.
I don't know if any of you havebeen like I.
Just I feel like I've done somuch today but I've done nothing
right.
(13:59):
That's how it is when you takethat huge vision and that's all
you're looking at.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm cracking up, because he says this like every
day.
He's like how is it already oneo'clock and I've done nothing
today?
And and I'm like but you didthis, this, this, like we sit
right next to each other when wework, Right, and I'm like I've
seen you do like a millionthings, he's like, but I still
feel like I've done nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
But I haven't finished anything.
Yeah, exactly Right.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But the list is still so long, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
To clarify, but the to-do list is still so long.
Yeah, to clarify.
To clarify, because I am aFacebook and Instagram ads
manager specifically, thefrustration can be like days
will go by where I finish thethings I'm supposed to finish in
client accounts.
So I'm working in the business,but then I'm not necessarily
having the time I need to workon the business, to advance the
(14:55):
business towards business goals,rather than just keeping
operations going well.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I feel like I need to give that clarification.
Let's be like what?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
is going on behind the scenes Honestly, I think
that a lot of them are probablylike oh, I, you're totally in my
head, I totally did the samething.
I actually did accomplish 10things, but I felt like I did
nothing Right, Like that's justhow we are, Our brain,
especially if you're an achiever, like you find a project and
you're like I got to do thattoday or yesterday, you know,
(15:26):
and so we just don't feel likewe're getting anywhere even
though we are, and that's likelooking at that big vision.
So once you have that big visionand you know it, writing it
down is really important.
I do say post a picture, writeit down.
Now I am not one who's going tosay I don't teach manifestation
, okay, I don't teach that youcan just look at it and think
(15:47):
about it all the time and thenyou'll magically get it.
Okay, that is not where I teach.
I teach that you write it downand make it plain and so that
you can see it, because the moreyou see it, the more apt you're
going to be to do somethingabout it, because action is what
matters, right?
So that's the see it, get thatvision, see that big thing.
(16:08):
But then we're going to plan it.
And how we're going to plan itis we're going to reverse
engineer that big goal becausewe want to create multiple goals
out of it.
We're going to create what Ilike to call stepping stone
goals.
And these goals now your goalcould be monetary.
It could be I want to earn ahundred thousand dollars in the
(16:28):
next year or two.
Okay, that could be a goal.
But when you break it down, itcan't be about the monetary, it
can't be like I'm going to have10 new clients, okay, because
you have no control over that.
Like we were talking aboutbefore.
You don't always have controlover how things go, but you can
control how much action you puttoward it.
So those stepping stone goals Ilike to think about as like
(16:51):
projects.
So here's something I have todo in order to get to that next
goal.
So, for example, we'll take itinto a marathon.
I want to run a marathon.
I want to finish.
I've never run one before breakit down.
I have to run a half marathon,okay.
So I, if I can't hit a halfmarathon, I'm not going to hit a
marathon.
So in order to hit a halfmarathon, I have to hit a 6k or
(17:13):
10k.
So six miles, right.
And in order to do that, I needto do a 5k.
I got to run three miles and Iactually have to run my first
mile if I've never run a mile,okay.
So those would be like thestepping stone goals.
In business, it might look likemy goal is to hit 100,000 in
revenue, but in order to do that, I you kind of have to think
about how much money or how manyclients maybe you need in order
(17:36):
to hit that, right, so then itmight be okay.
I do need to hit 10 clients amonth, okay, but that wouldn't
be your goal.
Your goal would be okay, howmany people do you need to talk
to in order to usually, likeaverage, make it hit that next
client or get that next 10clients?
It might be 100 people, okay,so that would be where, where I
(17:56):
would look at.
Okay, I know I need to talk to100 people in order to find 10
new clients, so that is my goal.
My goal is to talk to 100people this month, right, so
kind of thinking that way whenit comes to the numbers, because
I think sometimes we get stuckon the numbers.
I like to get stuck on what canI do?
(18:17):
And then it's like I do thework and I leave the results to
God, right and so, but anyway.
But we break it down into somesmaller projects and the reason
I like to do that is because,one, it's easier to shift if you
see that you need to.
But also, once you hit that onegoal, because it's smaller,
it's more doable.
I, you want to do that withinlike 30 to 90 days.
(18:40):
You don't want a goal that'slike the stepping stone goals.
You don't want them to belonger than 90 days.
Do a 90 day run, 30 day run,because otherwise we get weary
and like it's not happening.
It's probably just too big of agoal.
We want it to be doable andrealistic for these smaller ones
, because once you hit that goal, you see the results.
It's like I just had a win andthen we celebrate that win and
(19:02):
then we can go, okay, what'sthat next project, what's that
next stepping stone?
And so we're not really lookingat that big vision anymore,
we're just looking at the nextright step Right.
And it's funny because as we dothat and we look, then we're
looking, we're like, wow, we'reway further than we thought we
were.
Wow, I do see that we startthinking and believing that that
bigger vision can come true.
(19:24):
Because the hard part is, mostpeople look at that big vision
but they don't quite believe ityet.
So we need to set goals that weactually believe and so once we
believe that one, we canbelieve a little bit more, and
then we can believe a little bitmore.
We just build that confidenceand we build that actually even
stamina like the intention ofour actions, and we build the
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actions and consistency and thehabits that we need in order to
see the thing through.
So that's really the planet,part of it.
So, like breaking it down, andI would even break down those
smaller stepping stone goals toOkay.
So what's the my weekly tasksfor that?
Like, what does that look like?
Okay, what's my daily habits?
What does that look like If Ican only do one thing toward my
(20:08):
goal this week?
What's the most important thing?
Right?
And then planning doesn't stopthere.
I always say have a weekly planwith yourself when it comes to
your business goals or even justyour life goals, right?
Like I had a weekly planningwith myself with my marathon
training.
How did it go last week?
Did I get the training in?
Did I do enough hill work?
Did I do the speed work?
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Am I on track?
Did I miss anything?
What obstacles came?
What distractions came?
Can I fix that for next week?
Right?
And so it's really importantfor us to check in, and the
check in is the way that we go.
Okay, we're going on the righttrack.
We're staying the course.
We're staying on plan A for now.
Nope, we need to shift a littlebit.
We're going to plan A minus,right?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We're going to plan B right.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So that is the planning stage, and planning
doesn't end.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Can I interject something really quick?
Yeah, I love that.
This is so practical and doinglike you said, doing those
check-ins and actuallyevaluating where you're at right
, and not one on the one handnot beating yourself up like, oh
man, I didn't do this week, butjust what do I need to do to
stay on track, because we can beso led by our feelings.
(21:17):
Well, I felt like I feel likeI've reached out to so many
people and like another businesscoach that we've worked with is
so I love that.
She's so, so practical and likehaving the spreadsheet and
everything and, like you know,reaching out.
If you just reach out, it's anumbers game most of the time,
right, if you just reach out tofive people a day, you know
that's 25 people a week, that's100 people a month, like you
(21:40):
were saying, you know, and it'sjust a numbers game.
And then who is supposed tocome into your business will
come in.
But you are taking that, thoseactionable steps to put in the
work and to get towards yourgoals of, you know, x number of
clients, new clients each monthor something, but it's like it's
, you know, she often has peoplein, you know, in the group.
(22:00):
They're like well, I'm just notgetting any new clients and I
just I feel like I've beenreaching out to all these people
and she's like what are yournumbers say?
What does the spreadsheet say?
You know like who exactly haveyou reached out to?
How many you know?
And just keep at it.
And so it's.
I love the practicality of that.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Well, the evaluating is so important because then you
can look at it and go Iactually did reach out to a
hundred people and I didn't geta new client.
Okay, well, let's look at it.
Were they the right people?
What was the messaging like?
What do we need to tweak to tryit again?
Right?
Or you might be like oh, I didget another few clients.
Holy cow, I did work.
Okay, I just need to keep doingit.
Well, when you broke it downlike that, jamie, where it was
like I just have to talk to fivepeople a day, that sounds so
(22:47):
much more realistic than I haveto talk that down.
Well, five people a day, you cando that in a half hour.
That's where I think about itwhat's doable and realistic for
your season?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Realistic.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Realistic.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I need to learn how to be realistic with my goals.
Before we talk a little bitabout the do it.
I guess we already startedtalking about the do it.
Right do it.
I guess we already startedtalking about the do it.
But you have a masterclass andon that page it says if you are
more than ready to finally takethat desire inside your heart
from conception to the finishline, this is for you.
You want to share a bit moreabout that for the listener, and
(23:24):
the link is in the descriptionbelow.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Absolutely so.
This masterclass, it's thethree pillars to setting and
questioning goals in a stresslesson.
Oh, that's a way long, I know,but it is essentially what we're
talking about here, but in moredepth.
So what does the see it looklike?
And I give you that visual lookand we do some practical
exercises on crafting that bigvision.
How do you plan it?
(23:48):
That's the hardest part, Ithink, for people because we get
stuck in our plan.
So how do we plan it with thatflexibility?
And then the secret sauce toactually taking action that
works, because we can takeaction all day long, like we we
talked about in the last episode.
We talked about how socialmedia was like banging my head
against the wall trying to getclients right, and it didn't
(24:08):
work for me.
So I was taking the action, butit was not the right action for
me and my business, and so it'slike how do you find that, how
do you evaluate that, how do youmake those shifts and how do
you really get to that finishline without having to sacrifice
family?
Because that was the thing.
Like I had mentioned in thebeginning of this episode, I did
(24:31):
go to burnout.
I've done that a couple of timesto go after my goal and like
thinking about it all the timeand doing it, and that's my main
focus.
Well, when you have otherresponsibilities, it can't be
your only focus, and so I don'twant to sacrifice my family, I
don't want to sacrifice my peace, I don't want to sacrifice
living in the moment, likethat's.
One of my biggest goals thisyear is just to live in the
(24:54):
moment and be present wherever Iam.
If I'm at work, I'm at work.
If I'm at home, I'm at home,right, and so that's what this
workshop is going to do is goingto help break that down and
give you like a realisticstrategy to start working toward
that next big goal that youhave.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Wow, it's really good .
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I almost feel like that could be the end of the
episode.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I know it's powerful.
Yeah.
Do you have anything else youwant to ask?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think I would ask you to leave just to say a final
thought, a final thoughtrelating to actually doing the
work that it takes to get toyour goals and then we'll end
the episode there.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, that sounds great.
So the do it part is the workpart and, honestly, it's the fun
part If we're willing to.
And I know sometimes when we'replanning and we're shifting,
sometimes it can feel like it'san excuse not to do the work.
But that's not the point.
We don't stop working justbecause not working.
We might shift it and dosomething different, but it's
almost like the waiting isactive as well.
(25:53):
So we keep doing until.
So you keep doing that workuntil either you're told to
shift in some way or it's notworking.
Then you shift it because it'snot working.
And so really, that work comeswith consistency.
It comes with let's think aboutthat one or two, maybe three
things to do this week.
Don't overload your plate.
(26:14):
Don't be ambitious and thinkyou're going to do all the
things in one week, because ifyou don't hit all the goals you
have for that week, you're goingto feel like a failure.
Instead, think about what isthat one main thing that I need
to do to move my businessforward, to move my goal forward
and make sure that gets done.
Don't let things get in the wayof that.
(26:35):
Right, and so when we look atit in that way, it makes that
action so much more fun and somuch more doable and really
doing the action.
I like to talk about creatinghabits, but at the same time,
habits can become just that.
They can just become mundanepieces of our day when we have
no intention behind it.
So it's really about the actionneeds to be intentional.
(26:58):
What is my purpose behind whatI'm doing?
Am I posting a video just topost it, or is there a reason
behind it?
Is it going to make an impact?
Is it going to do the thingthat I want it to do?
I prefer quality over quantity.
To do the thing that I want itto do, I prefer quality over
quantity.
I prefer that you take thattime to really be purposeful in
what you do every day than tojust do menial things because
(27:21):
you were told you needed to dothem.
So that would be myencouragement Be willing to do
it countercultural, be willingto do business differently.
Be willing to do goalsdifferently so that you can do
them in a way that aligns withyour values, with your capacity,
with your season and with whatyou enjoy.
Now your goal is you're goingto have hard times, like it's
(27:41):
going to be hard.
That's why it's a goal, right.
If it weren't, if it were easy,we'd just have it all right,
like you will.
You can do hard things, andthere will be obstacles to
overcome.
Are you willing to overcomethem?
But it also needs to besomething.
If we don't enjoy it, if wedon't enjoy that journey, if we
don't enjoy the little things,then we won't stick with it, and
(28:04):
so it needs to be in alignmentwith what you really want it to
look like too.
So that would be myencouragement Do it differently.
It's okay to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Embrace different.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's really encouraging.
Thank you, Gabe.
Thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Thank you, listener, you've heard it.
If you want to hear more again,head down to the description
below so you can get thatwebinar and actually watch the
training about the three pillarsto setting and crushing goals
in a stress-less, no-hustle kindof way.
And, gabe, thank you for beingon this podcast and taking the
(28:40):
time to record this episode withus.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Absolutely Thanks for having me.
This was super fun.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's our honor.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Until you hear from us or see us next time, be
blessed, and we'll talk to yousoon.
Bye.
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