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April 3, 2024 63 mins

What would you do if you were facing a life-ending diagnosis at 46? Would you just hunker down and do the best you can? Or would you step outside conventional medicine and thoughts and do whatever it takes?

 

The latter is what my guest, Ian Clark, did. Facing bankruptcy at the same time as his greatest health challenge, with eight children he didn't want to leave, he used his research skills to get rid of his 'incurable' cancer. This research also led him into groundbreaking areas, including advanced information on how to literally stop the body from aging, and how to self heal all injuries while correcting structural adhesions and distortions.

 

This is a fascinating conversation that is sure to get you thinking... and you may never look at your health the same way again!

 

 

Ian's Bio

At 46 years old, I watched my life turn from bad to good. I fell in love with nature and watched it turn my life completely. Now, I am 65 years and I feel healthier than ever. Click the link below to watch my story and hope it inspires someone today!

 

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"And I thought, why are they losing their health? Is it just because they're older? Or is there something else?" ~ Ian Clark

 

 

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Website:   https://shop.activationproducts.com/

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(00:00):
so I sprayed it in any way.
I didn't really see anythinghappen outside of the one thing.
When I woke up the next morning.
I noticed that I was a littlebit puffy where the tumor was
when I was having a shower.
And every day I kept spraying, theseven sprays at night and go to bed.
And by the 14th day, it was like this big.
wow.

(00:20):
It has fallen right up and it was soft.
And, but it was big.
Like I could squish it.
I could feel it.
I had to wear loose jeans within a week.
I had to start wearing loose jeansbecause it was, it would hurt
if it got pressure put on it.
And then on the, around the 15th day.
I woke up in the morning to have ashower after having sprayed the stuff the
night before and it had gone back downand deflated back to his normal size.

(00:45):
So it was still there, but itwas just back to his normal size.
And so I kept spraying.
I did that spring for two more weeks.
And nothing changed.
It didn't go smaller.
It didn't get bigger.
And so I just stopped using that stuffand never thought much more about it.
I just knew that that somehow caused it.
I didn't understand yet why.
And then within a year from then,my body literally dissolved that

(01:07):
right out of my body completely.
It just slowly went away and nothingwas ever cut out or anything.
Great to have you tuned into thebeautiful side of grief today, where
I get to chat to inspiring peoplewho have faced adversity head on

(01:30):
and who have come through the otherside stronger and more resilient.
This is true of my guest today IanClark, who is CEO of activation
products and a health researcher,who at the age of 46 was bankrupt
and given a thousand days to live.
If that isn't confronting,I don't know what is.

(01:51):
However, five years later, hehas not only survived, he has
learned to heal himself naturally.
So he is a man after myown heart in that regard.
His research has led him intogroundbreaking areas, including
advanced information on how toliterally Stop the body from aging.
This also involves how to selfheal all injuries while correcting

(02:15):
structural adhesions and distortions.
So up ahead, we have a very interestingepisode indeed to share with you today.
So a very warm welcome to you today, Ian.
Yeah.
Thank you, Helen.
It's a pleasure to be here.
And this will be aninteresting conversation today.
Absolutely.
But I wanted to start with who is thatcute little dog you have in your posts?

(02:40):
I have a little dog, I have dogs andcats and, have some golden retrievers
and, the cat's name is Everett.
He's a little white Siberian.
Ah, yeah, they're suchgood company, aren't they?
And I think they, they teach us so much.
And, and I don't think we realize justhow much we're learning from our pets
and animals that we have around us.

(03:02):
Let's get an understanding of whatyour life looked like leading up to
receiving that diagnosis that you onlyhad a thousand days to live, because
that would have been really confronting.
Yeah that was a very unexpected turn,when I was just turning 46 years
old when I started to notice somevery unusual things about my body.

(03:27):
And it turned out to be a tumour in thebottom of my abdomen that was diagnosed
and discovered through medical analysis.
And
then I had some very bad heart diseasesymptoms as well around the same time.
And I was going to medicaldoctors in Toronto, and I had

(03:47):
to go to some specialists.
My oldest brother was also amedical doctor for 30 years.
And he was a general practitioner.
He wasn't a specialist, but Iwould call him once in a while,
whenever something would come up.
And when this stuff came up, I definitelygave him a call to find out what his
thoughts were on the whole situation.
And so he basically pointed out to me thatI was very similar in look and appearance

(04:12):
to my uncle Don and on my mom's side ofthe family, my uncle Don and my uncle
Bob, her two younger brothers, both diedof cancer in , one was 51 and the other
one was 54 and they died two days apart.
So one got a cancer diagnosisthe year prior to his death and
the one got a cancer diagnosisthree months before he passed.

(04:36):
And so that was a very fast, rapidmovement and it shocked our families.
My uncle Bob, the older one dideverything possible, from the
chemo, radiation surgeries and on.
My other uncle Don, who I looked likehe had, he was so full of cancer that
they just opened him up and closed himup and said, get your affairs in order.

(04:56):
He was gone in 90 days.
So it, it just impacted the family.
And I remember that because now Iwas looking at some very serious
health conditions myself, butI thought here we are in 2004.
We're not back in the dark ages of 1978,where there was only these things offered.
And, but it was exactly the same.

(05:16):
I was being told the same thingsand it was, and then my brother,
my medical brother, doctor told meit's genetic predisposition, there's
nothing you can do about this.
You just have to follow the ordersof the doctors and hope for the best.
And I offered my idea that maybe itwas me that was causing the problem, or

(05:37):
maybe it was something that I could do.
And he says, there's absolutelynothing that you can do
Oh,
that, you over the years of hisexperience, he said, I've seen thousands
of people come through my clinic becausehe had not only his own practice, but 11
doctors working in his clinic with him.
And so he got to see abroad spectrum of society.

(05:57):
And he said, everybody from youngto old, every shape and size, every
nationality, every religious belief.
All are the same becausethey're all your genetics are
going to dictate your outcome.
He said, I saw some people completelyabuse their bodies and live till they're
95 and other people be very healthconscious and live till they're 35.
And so I, I said, that's not givingme any hope here, really, other

(06:20):
than hopefully the doctors knowwhat they're doing in Toronto.
But my problem was the tumor wasright at the bottom of my abdomen,
wrapped all around, the male plumbing,the prostate attached to the colon.
And it was, it wasgrowing and it was nasty.
Like just sitting awake, I wouldfeel it with every heartbeat
and they wanted to cut it out.

(06:41):
And I just couldn't stand the ideaof that being cut out with sutures,
like with, scalpels and then suturedup, with this big gaping thing.
So I opted out of the operation andwas told promptly that was going to
basically guarantee my termination,because if I didn't do what they
wanted, I would not make it verylong based on their, the prognosis.

(07:05):
But here was the problem.
I kept asking them, whydo I have what I have?
Because I didn't acceptmy brother's opinion.
I suspected that it was me, that it wassomething that I didn't know, or something
that I may have done that was causingthis, or maybe it was a lifestyle thing.
And every time I suggested that toany of the people in the medical
profession, they kept telling me,it's just going to make it worse.

(07:28):
If you try to take responsibility andblame yourself because it's not you.
I wasn't, no, I wasn'tdrinking or smoking.
I wasn't doing any of those things.
I stopped out when I was 21.
I lived a very regular lifestyle.
We had, I was married to mywife, at that time for about,
20, what was it, 21 years, 1983.

(07:50):
And we had seven children already.
Our youngest child was six.
We kept having children.
We got some girls.
so we had five boys and two girls, andit was a really great situation with
the family, but I had a big problem, notonly with my physical health, but I'd
also had a business failure in that sametime where a company who had bought my

(08:12):
company went into bankruptcy and theyfailed to make the royalty payments
on the technology we had given them.
So that put me into financial bankruptcy,which was totally bad news, but.
I was like, okay, this is avery interesting situation.
I don't like what's being offeredon any case, any of the remedies I'm
being given felt very uncomfortable.

(08:34):
And I woke up one morning and I thought,what if there are people on the earth
who have knowledge of what I need?
And I said, there have to bepeople because there's just people
that seem naturally healthy.
And they don't have these things happen.
Like even my mom, at the time shelived all the way till almost a
hundred years old, she passed in2022 and she was born in 1922.

(08:58):
And she was the sister of my two uncles.
So I thought, in her mom, she haddied in 1995 at 103 years old.
And that was nine years before this.
So I thought, there's some geneticsthere that, I don't think it's genetics.
It's got to be something else and myuncles had been, they drank and smoked

(09:18):
and partied and had a good time andwhat they called a good time and that
was so good for them and I don't knowif that's what caused their cancer
either because I hadn't been doingthat and I had these major problems.
It was in the next two yearsbetween 24 2004 and 2006.
I found out my liver wasin very bad condition.

(09:39):
And the enzyme numbers were off.
And anyway, I just knew there were people,they had to exist who I could be led to
potentially, if I could find favor andhear the truth about natural healing.
Maybe I'd be able to find that out.
And if I was told somethingthat was different than what the
medical rules would tell me, andit sounded good, I would try it.

(10:03):
And so slowly but surely I started meetinga few people and I went to some health
events in Toronto and began learningabout what really causes tumors, which
is usually fungal infections, yeastovergrowth, bacterial overloads, chemical
sensitivities, and heavy metal toxicity.

(10:24):
Whoa.
Bye.
sure enough, that's what it was.
It, I started doing these differentdetoxification programs and
it took from 2004 until 2011.
To get rid of the tumor completely.
It went through a bunch of weird things.
It did grow a lot more during that time.

(10:44):
And it would, it was very painfuland it just sat there and pulsed.
And then within the five years, aroundthe end of 2009, it stopped pulsing.
And then I, and then it shrunka bit and it just sat there.
Cause you, I could feel it.
I could physically feelit when I had a shower.
And then in around the spring of 2010, Iran into a group of people who had this

(11:07):
thing called silver dihydrogen citrate.
Now, this is not something you consume.
This is a hard surface cleaner.
It makes all surfaces totally bacterialfree for 72 hours, and people use it in
commercial kitchens and things like that.
But I was being told, hey, youcan sanitize your house, you can
sanitize your bathroom, and also,because it's not toxic, you can

(11:29):
actually spray it in your mouth.
We're not saying to dothis, but you can do this.
And people have done it and feltmuch better after they did it.
So I thought, I'll give that a try.
It was just one of thosethings trying anything.
And so I started, I sprayedseven sprays in my mouth.
It tasted like, like lemon juice.
Cause it's silver dihydrogen citrate isa citric acid molecule combined with a

(11:52):
silver ion, but it's in the people realm.
yes.
Yes.
And so I sprayed it in any way.
I didn't really see anythinghappen outside of the one thing.
When I woke up the next morning.
I noticed that I was a littlebit puffy where the tumor was
when I was having a shower.
And every day I kept spraying, theseven sprays at night and go to bed.
And by the 14th day, it was like this big.

(12:16):
wow.
It has fallen right up and it was soft.
And, but it was big.
Like I could squish it.
I could feel it.
I had to wear loose jeans within a week.
I had to start wearing loose jeansbecause it was, it would hurt
if it got pressure put on it.
And then on the, around the 15th day.
I woke up in the morning to have ashower after having sprayed the stuff the

(12:36):
night before and it had gone back downand deflated back to his normal size.
So it was still there, but itwas just back to his normal size.
And so I kept spraying.
I did that spring for two more weeks.
And nothing changed.
It didn't go smaller.
It didn't get bigger.
And so I just stopped using that stuffand never thought much more about it.
I just knew that somehow caused it.

(12:57):
I didn't understand yet why.
And then within a year from then,my body literally dissolved that
right out of my body completely.
It just slowly went away and nothingwas ever cut out or anything.
been gone.
It
so there are a couple of things here thatare really fascinating, because even 20
years ago, do people think you were kooky?

(13:18):
Because it's not like today where, it'sreally readily accepted to go alternative
and find solutions for your health.
But back then, not so much so.
I think you were sort of walking onthe fringe of things, weren't you?
was, it made people angry actually.
My family got angry with me.
My brother was very upset.

(13:40):
He phoned my mom.
Cause when I told my brother that Iwasn't going to follow through with any
of the doctors in Toronto, he calledmy mom and said, Oh, Ian's committing
suicide, just so you know, total.
He's a total nut this is not good.
So be ready.
This is not, this is a badsituation because families focus
very much on their siblings and,and plus all my wife and children.

(14:03):
My wife was, became verysupportive at the start of that.
She was not supportive at all.
She was like, when I didn't do whatpeople were suggesting and I tried, I
said, there's gotta be a different way.
And I started doing some of the more,simple things like, changing everything
I was eating and getting into juicingand getting into these things that
these people in the health space weretelling me she didn't like it because

(14:25):
these people look like hippies,
Ah, yep.
and they're like, Oh,look at them, you know?
And I said, hold it.
I'm not concerning myselfwith how people look at all.
I'm not concerning myself withany, I'm not going to be in any
way prejudiced about anything.
If somebody has information, I willlisten to them and I will do what they
say if they look good and they feel greatand they're telling me and it turned

(14:48):
out that they were very intelligentand that got me through the first phase
and I learned all about eating, properfoods, at least what I thought at the
time and doing these different protocols.
In 2006, at the end of 2006,I found out about a nutrient
called marine phytoplankton.
This was the first thing that camealong that was profoundly different than

(15:11):
anything anybody was looking at that
How did you find
And I was just searching onlineand just, as I was searching, I
met all these different people.
And then this one person who I metin the States, called me, got my
number through email and called meand said, Hey, I've got something
that I think that will help you.
And it's called marine phytoplankton.
I go, okay, so how does that work?

(15:32):
And he said, it's in thisproduct called frequency.
And it was from a multi levelmarketing company out of the States.
And so I bought a case of these bottles.
It was four bottles and itarrived in the mail in a week.
And I looked at the bottle and itsaid it had 37 milligrams of marine
phytoplankton in the whole bottle.

(15:53):
And I thought, that'snot very much milligrams.
Yeah, I knew
And I took the, it wasactually not the whole bottle.
It was what was in the, ineach dose, 37 milligrams.
So it was however big the bottle was,and it was supposed to be a month supply.
But I thought, I don't, 37 milligrams.
So I drank the whole entire bottle

(16:13):
you were going to say that.
Yep.
it was like mostly like the special fruitjuices and it had this phytoplankton
in it and I didn't notice anything.
So then I drank a bottle a day.
And I didn't notice anything, didn'tfeel really anything at all from it.
And I thought, that's,it just seems like that.
And, oh, there was a video that theyhad at the time called another day.

(16:36):
And it was about a man out of Vancouverwho had discovered this Marine
phytoplankton for consuming by he, hehad a type of cancer that was terminal.
They gave him somethinglike 10 weeks to live.
And when they opened them up, it waslike, open them up and close them up.
And that was it.
And he started eating this marinephytoplankton from his trough.

(16:58):
He was making this stuff himself.
He was a fish farmer andhe had this phytoplankton.
And so he had this claim and testimonythat within a very short period
of time, all his cancer went away.
As if it was the cure for cancer.
And I thought, okay, I don't know.
I don't have what he has.
I'm having this bottle of fruit juice.
So I went online the next morning.

(17:18):
I woke up and I typed in rawmarine phytoplankton bulk.
I put the word bulk after itbecause I just wanted to get some.
And it turned out there was this websitethat popped up that said Gesundheit.
And that was the name of the company,which means God bless in German.
And so I, I saw the number,it was out in Vancouver.

(17:39):
I was three hours ahead of them.
So I had to wait till 11 in the morning.
I called that number.
And this guy answered the phone.
His name was Dave.
And I asked him about it.
I says, Hey, what's this,phytoplankton you've got?
It looks like a green powder.
And I said, told him mystory about the Jews.
He goes, Oh yeah, no, that company.
I know that company, that frequency thing.
And I know the guy who was in thatvideo, I worked for him and he sold

(18:02):
his rights to this, to that company.
And he said that stuff.
Yeah, that's not even close to enough.
He said, I found out that there's aplace in Europe that grows this very
specific strain of marine phytoplanktonthat they know is the real thing.
And I said, so I went overto Europe and I have that.
And so I left that companywhen that guy sold out.

(18:23):
I left it and he said, Ican send you something.
So I said, perfect.
How much is it?
And it was 1, 500 for akilogram, which is expensive.
And I was like, okay, how muchdo I have to take of this stuff?
He goes, you got to take a teaspoon a day.
So I bought it from him and Isaid, I had to scrounge the money.
I was in bankruptcy.
I was about halfway throughthe whole bankruptcy problem.

(18:46):
And my, I got my older sons to get creditcards so they can at least, we can buy
I bet your wife was despairing with you.
Yep.
Yep.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, she was as patient as she could be.
She was very concernedand she didn't like that.
I was doing all of these, whatshe called radical things.
yeah, I
But anyway, I had to ignorethat and just bear with it.
And my children were very supportivecause they didn't want me to go anywhere.

(19:09):
And so then I got the stuff andit started to make me feel good.
It didn't cure anything, but Itook it and it made me feel great.
It like, I just had this energythat would come in my body and there
was no stimulants in it at all.
There was no caffeine or anything.
And I was familiar withwhat caffeine does.
But it felt different.
And after about three months of takingit, it was like my battery got charged

(19:31):
up and I just felt so good and I hadall kinds of energy to do stuff all day.
And I thought, people shouldfind out about this stuff.
So I phoned Dave up and I said, Dave,can I like, what happens if we want
to, resell it, he, Oh, I can give you,a special price and you can buy it
and then you take it a little bits andyou sell it for, a month at a time.
And so I started doing that.

(19:52):
And then I found out who the producer is.
Dave introduced me tothe producer in Europe.
And I found out that if you take the rawmarine phytoplankton before they freeze
dry into powder and you stabilize it ina hundred times strength ocean water.
And I didn't come upwith a, with this idea.
I simply had, I took two ideas and putthem together that were told to me and

(20:15):
it worked and the people in Europe.
Didn't think it was going to work.
So they went through a whole months oftesting to see if it was going to be
stable because the only way they couldstabilize it was by freeze drying.
And it worked.
And so I started bringing bottles ofthis stuff over to Canada and I showed
some people in Canada, but they didn'tthink it was interesting at all.
I don't know why I took it to afarmer's market where people were,

(20:39):
interested in health and I thought,Oh, they're going to love this.
Cause you know, I told him like, youwait, you take this stuff, you'll see.
But they were like, nah, that's likemicroalgae, we know all about that.
And I said, no, thisis something different.
This is from the ocean.
And there was a 40 year study thatwas done on research of marine
phytoplankton because it grows at thesurface of the ocean all over the world.

(21:01):
And it turns out that it's thefoundational food for the whole ocean.
Like you get your food chain.
And it's microscopic,but there's quadrillions.
Of these things in the ocean and theplankton eat the marine phytoplankton
and the largest mammal on earth, which isthe great blue whale eats the plankton.
That's all they eat.

(21:21):
They swim to the ocean with theirbig mouth open and it catches all the
plankton and that and they're some ofthe longest living mammals on earth.
It's like a superfood, is it, is that
it really is.
It's the ultimate
ultimate, yeah.
Wow.
The top one.
It's right up there with fruit and afew other things that we can talk about.
But the, it was just a phenomenal thing.

(21:42):
And the fact that it's stabilized.
So I took it down to California in 2007and I showed some people down there.
And these were people who were in thehealth space and had learned a lot
and had people following them becausethey were helping them get healthy.
And the one, one guy told me, Hey,I'd love to get ahold of this stuff.
How do I, like, how can I get more?

(22:03):
I'd like to sell it to my people.
How can I get it?
And I said, I could, I can get it.
So they started buying from us.
That was in 2007, between 2007and 2009, we sold about 2.
8 million worth of this productby just, it was an amazing thing.
Like we had stuff shipped from Australiais where the sea, what the concentrated

(22:23):
semen was came from to Europe.
They blended it in Europe, send it to us.
We put it in bottles in Canadaand send it down to the States.
And that's how it started.
And that brought some, thatgave us some money to use.
I knew that was not my money,that was the money of people
who had gone and earned money.
They were investing in themselvesto buy something for their health.

(22:44):
And so I realized I'll take their moneyand I'll invest it into more information.
If I, if this is good, what else is there?
And that started the whole journeyand it enabled us to have the
funding to be able to do research.
So then we ended up since then.
We generated around a hundred milliondollars worth of revenue that we had

(23:05):
about 40 million of that, that wecould use for learning more for just
like we built a factory and we, gotall the equipment and we got certified
with the government agencies on makingsure we're doing things correctly.
And, a company in 2014 startedcalled activation products.
That we own with myself and myfamily and we just worked away

(23:25):
at that and learn more and more.
So I By 2011 when the tumor was gone andI was being measured for a very high level
of health for medical reasons, right?
I thought if the medical if I'min the normal medical range,
then how healthy could we get?
Maybe we could get really healthysure enough, that was true.

(23:47):
And I didn't want to, I didn't,I knew I couldn't do the research
because I didn't have time.
But if I was, if I went and researchedthe researchers, so the people who
really dedicated their life to learningabout brain health, endocrine system,
digestion, respiratory, circulatory,your whole autonomic nervous system,

(24:08):
all these things that your body runswith, and I learned that, the chain
is only as strong as its weakest link.
And if one of those systems goes off, itcould actually take you out, even though
you're really healthy in a bunch of areas.
I thought, what if we found outall the information to get all
the links totally strengthened?
And then the body would justget healthier every day going

(24:29):
forward, instead of less healthy.
Because we've seen all theseages that as people get older,
they begin to lose their health.
And I thought, why arethey losing their health?
Is it just because they're older?
Or is there something else?
And it turned out it was something else.
It wasn't because they're older, becausenormally when you do something long
enough, you get better and better.

(24:51):
Just if you were deciding right nowto decide, Hey, I want to learn how
to play the violin, and say, you'venever played the violin in your life.
And I said to you, okay, this isthe best violin to buy on the earth.
And here's the very top, bestteacher in the violin world.
That there is, and they've onlygot a very few slots because people
want to be taught by them, butthey actually have a slot open.

(25:13):
Would you be interested in buyingthis violin and getting taught
by the best teacher in the world?
And you would say yes, unless it wasnot affordable, but it's affordable.
Then you would become a violinplayer that would be better and
better and better and better.
You would always getbetter at violin playing.
Well, it's the same with health.
You are responsible for your body andwhen you're given the proper information

(25:38):
with the exact things to use and youknow what to do with your body's health
to support your body, to be healthy.
You just simply gethealthier into the future.
The same thing has to apply.
But the interesting thing about thatis that's not the way we think, because
if that were the way we would think.
Then, people would leap onto thisinstantly and just, grab this idea.

(26:00):
But it seems like, you are one of a smallpercentage of people who really think like
this, who think, okay, we don't have toage, naturally as we've done in the past.
It can be better.
We can have our wholesystem improved in that.
Why do you think thenthat, it's not mainstream?
And a mainstream idea.

(26:22):
The primary reason is not mainstreamfrom what I finally learned is that
there is so much propaganda and somuch information released that confirms
the reality of what we see around us.
Like when we're little children,we begin to grow up and then our
grandparents get old and they pass away.
Right.
And then we get older, we becomeadults, and then we watch our

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parents get old and pass away.
And that confirms that, Oh,that's just the way it is.
And everybody around usis doing the same thing.
Primarily, you've got, your mainstreambelief of the fact that we should
go to the dentist, go to the doctor,do what we're told, we should eat,
this is like the specific dietthat the government recommends.
And this is the recommended dailyallowance for different things.

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And so we're conditioned very deeplyprogrammed through media, through
schools, through churches, throughfamilies, through just the general
population that, that we just simplyaccept that, Hey, you're going
to get old and die, just face it.
Yeah, cycle of
life.
Yeah.
Yes.
And that the chances of having,statistically certain people, they

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have very tiny number die in theirthirties, a little bit larger number
die in their forties, a little bitlarger in their fifties, and then a very
large number dies between 75 and 85.
And the average life expectancy acrossthe board on earth today is 75 to 85.
And that even includes the blue zonesthat everyone talks about, where people
live in an area where they were morepeople live to 100 than other places.

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But that doesn't help us becausewho's going to move to the blue zone.
We can't have everybody.
Yeah.
And so it's not about that.
It's about hold it.
I, the only key performance indicator thatyou and I have is are we getting healthier
tomorrow than we are today and healthierthe day after that and measurably

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healthier because you can actuallymeasure the physical body is very clear.
You can see in the physicalworld very clearly whether or not
you're getting healthier or not.
Are you getting more energy, betterbrain power, better digestion,
better respiratory, betterbreathing, better circulatory,
your hormones are staying in line.
You are.

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You're more functional, you'remore flexible, you're more agile,
you have better mobility, you'restronger, you have more endurance.
Is that the way it's going or is itthe other way, going down from there?
So you know, if you're going down alittle bit, continue, between 60 and 80
years old, rapid decline with people.

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Whereas from, 20 to 60, there'schanges, but they're not huge.
A lot of 60 year oldsstill look pretty good.
And so I started doing math.
I went, okay, forgetwhat everybody thinks.
Forget what I think.
Let's just look at actualmathematical realities.
So you take a 20 year old andthe average 20 year old is pretty

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healthy and they have all theirbone marrow in their body is red
and they have, they recover quickly.
If they get an injury, like you cansee this in the professional athletic
world, people in their twentiesto thirties, They do really well.
They recover quickly if they get injured.
They have stamina.
They're high performing.

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That's when they, a professional athletewill have their career between 20 and 30.
Some athletes still keep their careergoing from 30 to 40, but there's very few
professional athletes that go beyond 40.
I was like, why is that?
That's because the bone marrowconverts from red to yellow about 40
percent between 20 and 30 years old.

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So they don't recover as fast as theydid in their twenties because red bone
marrow produces very high quality blood.
Your body is a blood production facility.
It produces blood 24 hours a day.
And as you don't, if you don't know howto maintain healthy bone marrow, then
that blood starts to be less and less.

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Also red bone marrow is scientificallyproven to be the producer of stem cells.
A stem cell, what heals you, you geta bad, an injured knee, body sends
stem cell down, repairs that knee.
But if you're 60 and you injure yourknee, that's a whole different thing.
It's not going to repair very fast.
Some people never get it properlyrepaired, or they might have

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to have the knee replaced.
So I thought, okay, that's a known thing.
Then what else happens is you, what'sthe thing you do most physically
in your world is you breathe air.
Okay.

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You can't see it.
As a matter of fact, the air looksclean right between you and your camera.
Between me and the screen I'mlooking at you through is clear.
But we know that if we shine a verybright light in the room, suddenly
we see all these things we call dust.
But that we can see with thenaked eye, you need a microscope
to see a microscopic particle.

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And so you have a micronthat requires a microscope.
And the smaller the particle is, themore there can be that you can't see.
And then there's a thingcalled nanoparticles.
Which are also measurable.
You have to get a 1 million electronmicroscope to see a nanoparticle.
And the nanoparticles are made of thingsthat are in the air that are released all

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day long on the highways, like tire dust.
There's in the United States, there's10 billion pounds of tire dust
from tires wearing out, but there'sno rubber on the ground anywhere.
It's all in the air and it goes a mileand a half above all the highways,
which they've measured that as well.
They've taken samples and ittakes a mile and a half before
you run out of tire dust.

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Entire dust is made of rubber,cotton, epoxies, resins,
plastics, metals, and chemicals.
And that's just one thing, right?
And you're breathing it.
You can't see it, you can'ttaste it or smell it, but
you're definitely breathing it.
And the same with brake dust.
Brakes wear out in cars.
Those are made of heavymetals and composites.
And they're like little razor blades.

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And then you have all theother pollutants in the air.
There's more than 1, 000 differentsmall nano sized pollutants in the air
from industries, from construction,from Airplanes flying around to
whatever, and we're breathing it.
So if you look at a 20 year old to a60 year old, there's 160 million liters
of air breathed in that 40 year period.

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And so when you breathe it into yourlungs, it immediately goes into your
bloodstream, the oxygen goes in andall these little nanoparticles go in.
So when they go into your bloodstream,they, they then get deposited
entirely throughout your body.
People have got to learn afew things about their body.
It's not very much information.
It's you're breathing 11,000 liters of air a day.

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That's 4 million liters a year.
You are, you only have five liters ofblood in your whole body right now.
And that five liters is goingto pump entirely through your
whole body every 60 seconds.
That's how long it takes to pump fiveliters through 10, 000 kilometers
of arteries, veins, and capillaries.

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That means you pump 7, 600liters of blood per day.
That's a lot of blood and thatblood has to deliver to every
single cell to keep you alive.
Even to just keep your brainrunning right now, that oxygen is an
absolutely essential nutrient 24 7.
And if your heart stops beating rightnow, for some reason, you would be

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unconscious within eight seconds.
That's how long it takes for yourbrain to run out of oxygen and go dark.
Then you're unconscious on the floor.
It would take you eight minutesuntil you're dead, normally.
And three minutes untilyou have brain damage.
So the reason I tell you thatis because that's how deeply
complicated our bodies are.
And we, and so therefore is every singleday, you're pulling all this stuff into

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your system and it accumulates becauseyour kidneys filter the blood and they
filter the lymphatic fluid as well.
You have five liters of lymph fluid.
Your lymph fluid movesaround only when you move.
You jump up and down, or you movearound, or you flex, or you do something
that makes your lymphatic movement.
When you go down the road,your kidneys start to plug up.

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So if you look at a 20 year old to a60 year old, a 20 year old has what's
called a hundred percent kidney function.
They're working perfectly.
A 60 year old is 35 percent efficiencycompared to a 20 year old because of the
accumulation of all the things that you'dbe breathing and that plugs up the filter.
Okay.
That's why when you look at a 60year old to an 80 year old, it's

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a vast difference in appearance.
And most people arealready passed away by 80.
Because the average lifespan is74 to 79 in mainstream is 75 to
85 in the health conscious world.
So I knew that
Yeah.
So just let me just clarify for a minute.
So what is the solution to this?
Is it changing lifestyle and, usingthese types of products that are going to

(35:29):
enhance our cell quality or is it, Yeah,just let's go down that avenue and just,
explore that a little bit of what it isthat we need to do, because, I imagine
not very many of us are going to be ableto escape what we're exposed to here and
now on a daily basis without relocating,and that's not always feasible.

(35:51):
So what's the bottom line of this?
right.
You're a hundred percent correct.
And this is a very good point becauseyou need to survive where you are.
You are not going to change thearea of breathing anytime soon.
So what is it that will fix the problem?
This is where it gets very excitingbecause if there was no solution, if I
just pointed out all the problems andleft us there, that's like pretty dismal,

(36:15):
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loss of your beautiful loved one.
I don't know where to head next.
Yeah, I get that.
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(36:38):
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(37:03):
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(37:26):
looking for A Letter of Hope & Aroha.
It's an amazing thing to findout that you actually can
solve this problem completely.
And the way you do it is bygiving your body the raw materials
in the form of nutrients.
In a large enough volume in order foryour body to produce more clean blood

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because you're producing blood right now.
As you get older, you produceless and less clean blood.
Because your bone marrow is diminishing.
So I found out the exact raw materialsthat your body needs to produce a much
higher volume of clean blood is seaminerals and trace minerals from fruit.

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Those are your two major raw materials.
Now,
those types of things.
Is that what you're talking or?
and everything within the realm ofthe sea minerals for the electrolytic
side, for your electrolytes and thenthe trace minerals that are in fruit.
Now fruit is a very specific thingand I'll explain why they're so

(38:33):
powerful and the fact that people arepretty much missing this because they
don't consume even close to enoughfruit because everybody's worried
about the sugar that is in fruit.
Because doctrinally, we've beentaught that, Oh, sugar is not good.
Too much sugar is bad.
It could make you diabetic.
It can cause insulin resistance.
There's all this misinformationthat is released about this topic.

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Now, your blood, if you were totake an analysis of your blood,
it's very similar to the plasmathat you get out of the ocean.
Now, in the world wars, when they hadthese soldiers being injured and losing
blood, they would run out of bloodsupply because there's only so many
people donating the blood for these wars.
They shouldn't be at waranyway, but they are.

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And so they found out thatthey could go to the ocean, get
actual seawater in its raw form,
Saline.
Yep.
Itself.
They took two thirds, Of it.
They would make out of distilledwater, one third of the seawater.
And they called that isotonicplasma and they would intravenously
inject just that in there.

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Even though they had no blood supply,they would put that into the soldier's
body within two weeks, the soldier wouldhave enough blood to be a functioning
very well and actually be really healthybecause the body uses that raw material
to make blood that's intravenouslydone well, you and I don't want to have
to go and get on an IV bag with that.
No, but that is in Vogue at the moment.

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It is, but there's a muchsimpler solution, much simpler.
And that is this particular fluid I haveright here, for example, is a perfect
example, this is unrefined sea salt meltedinto water, the water is super pure,
and when you put the unrefined sea saltinto it, it structures it immediately,
and then I add fruit juices into it.

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So I have five grams per liter,which is the perfect exact amount.
This took many decades to figure out.
And I didn't figure this out.
Other people who did testing on thisfound out that if you drink it on a daily
basis, which tastes amazing, and youput the fruit juice into it, that this
is actually the raw material your bodygoes into high volume blood production.

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Now that doesn't mean you'regoing to have more platelets
and more this and more that.
No, you're just going tohave more blood overall.
And now instead of relying on yourfilters to clean out that same five
liters that's barely producing enough,Right now you're producing much more.
Now the filters don'tget stressed anymore.
In fact, the filters get cleaned outbecause the clean blood goes in and

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starts washing your whole body clean.
Why?
Because your body can dumpthe dirty blood often.
Whereas before it has to hang ontoyour blood cause you don't have enough.
When you're not producing enough,your body has to deal with that five
liters not being replaced very often.
When you replace the five literscontinuously, then it goes in and
it cleans out your whole body.
And I experienced that personally.

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It took me 12 months.
I'm drinking this, these fluids to havea total change in every part of my body.
I was already typical male in mysixties, having an enlarged prostate,
that enlarged prostate was causingtrouble with urination, with function.
There's a bunch of things that getaffected with the male females are the
same, they get different reproductiveorgan problems, also brain health,

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also gut health, because yourhydrochloric acid in your stomach.
When you don't have strong enough,high enough quality hydrochloric acid,
you'll get acid reflux because youget GERD and these different things,
you don't digest your food properly.
And then it gets foaming up and theacid will come up into your throat

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because your body is reacting.
As soon as you have highquality hydrochloric acid, all
that acid reflux goes away.
All the GERD goes away and all thedigestion issues go away because
you're digesting your food properly.
And you get very, because the hydrochloricacid is made from chloride minerals,
which is what the sea salt is.

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Sea salt is chloride minerals.
So we have this product calledtrace and we have another product
called Oceans Alive, which hasthese trace minerals in it.
Plus this marine phytoplankton.
And when you consume that, now you'regiving your body the raw material.
And so I went through all theseiterations and found out what the
actual amounts are that you need.
And I just focused on that.
And then I add the fruit juice.

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The reason the fruit juice is soabsolutely essential is because
that is the fructose that turns intoglucose that powered your cells.
That turns all the lights on.
If you want to have a bountiful energyall day long, regardless of how old you
are, you, you drink this all day long.
Now, one of the things that now, one ofthe things that's very interesting that

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has done a lot of research has been doneon this as well, that your body needs fat,
Yep.
Women need a little bit more fatthan men, but we all only need a
little bit of fat, not very much.
You do need it, but very little.
What you need a lot of is a lot ofglucose because every cell in your

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body, whether it's a bone cell orbrain cell or heart, it doesn't matter.
It needs glucose to power it.
Yeah, energy source, yeah,
yes, and as soon as you have too muchfat going into your system, in your
blood, that fat plugs up the lipidmembranes of each cell in your body.
Every cell has a lipid membrane and whenit gets over fatted, then it plugs it up.

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So the insulin, which shows upwhen you have glucose, Which would
drive the glucose into your cellcannot do it efficiently anymore.
So maybe you're only getting 30 percentof the glucose into your cell now,
because you're plugged up with fat
uh,
and the rest of the other 70 percentof the glucose and the insulin
is free floating in your body,which wrecks havoc in your system.

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I get
It's really bad for you.
So then people say, you take less sugar.
but what happens is when you only havethe very perfect amount of fat in your
diet, which you take at different timesthan this, you're now all of the glucose
and all of the insulin gets used up anddelivered to the cell to give you energy.

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But if people are not knowing this,then they're told, Hey, drop your
sugar down and then they feel better.
And they say, Oh, the sugar in thefruit is causing insulin resistance.
No, it's not.
What's causing insulinresistance is the too much fat.
And people eat all kindsof things with fat in them.
It doesn't matter where it's coming from.
It could be all these different formsfrom, coconut or animal fat or dairy or,

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seed oils or wherever it doesn't matter.
It's plugging the system up so itcan't get the energy into the cells.
So all I found out was,Hey, just drop it down.
I had way too much fat in my diet.
I dropped it completely.
And all of a sudden my whole bodycompletely changed within a few days.
And then after four or five or sixmonths of this, your body entirely

(45:30):
changes, and then you realize, that'swhat it is why is the big thing?
so tell me, can somebody who's listeningto this, can they just go into their
supermarket or health food store orhealth store and find a formulation
that's similar to what you're talkingabout and have the same benefits of that,

(45:52):
yeah, they have to be.
Yes.
They have to be very specificallyinformed with knowledge of how to do this.
So what we did instead of going tothe health food stores, we simply
provide our products direct to people.
So it was much more affordablebecause we don't have a whole bunch
of middle middlemen in between.
And because our products are superunique and they're dealing with

(46:15):
the functional foundational partof your business, your body, right?
So you don't have, you wantto get the foundation reset.
We sell directly to people so thatthey can get educated about it.
Is it now going to the health food store?
Yeah.
You can find Organic fruit atthe health food store or, organic
food at fruit at the grocery.
And it's not just fruit.

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There's things like sweet potatoes andrice and these different wonderful things
that you can eat that are very high carb.
So they're going to produce yourjuice, a major amount of glucose for
your system and just stay away fromanything that has fats in it, especially
if you've been doing that for yourwhole life, just drop them completely.
It's going to take you six months toa year to clear all the extra fat out

(46:58):
of your system that you don't want.
You don't need.
Because you only need a littlebit and then everything cleans
itself up and you just get betterand better and better and better.
And the products that we manufacture,we don't manufacture fruit products.
We manufacture detoxification products tosupport your body to more quickly remove

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those things that should not be in it.
The things that you'rebreathing particularly.
And we have other productsthat are concentrated nutrients
like the marine phytoplankton.
And we have one singleline called seed oils.
And I never recommend people to eatseed oils with their food because
much food is loaded with seed oils.

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You go down and get organic hummusis 40 percent seed oil, which is
definitely way over the top and waytoo much when it comes to seed oils.
There's one that's called black humanseed oil or known as black seed oil.
You only need one, one teaspoon a dayis the most you put into your body.
And that has so many elements in itthat are, it's like a whole body tonic.

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It helps to unglue the fatthat built up in your body
because it'll dissolve it down.
People get very gummed up.
That's why you see them, get biggerand bigger as they get older.
A lot of people because they'refilling up with all the wrong fats
Yeah.
Yep.
and it helps to dissolve it.
So it's a very simple protocol.
It's easy to do for everyone.
And we didn't want to compete withall the companies making all these

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supplements because there's hundredsof thousands of different supplements
in the world now from thousands ofcompanies that make all these things.
And most of them are not requiredat all because you're not
trying to get a remedy anymore.
I found out that the base problemin your body is what I just
talked about with the too much fatand not getting enough glucose.

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Once you remove the problem,you don't need all the remedies.
It's literally that simple.
And your whole body.
Yeah, can I interrupt for a moment?
What about those people that areon something like the keto diet,
which is incredibly high fat andSwear by it and say that's changed
their entire life and you know madethem feel healthier more alert.

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It's changed everything.
So how do you address that?
Oh, so what I did is I wentthrough an entire last 20 years,
I've researched everything.
And the way I researched it is Iactually did it because I can't talk
to somebody if I haven't done it.
And I have been through everythingfrom the vegan to vegetarian,
to keto, paleo, carnivore diet.

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I did that, like I dideach one for years at a
Because I wanted to find out, because Iheard the same things you did, hey, this
saved my life, this changed my life.
And it does change these people'slives because they are, they're still
combining everything incorrectly.
And so when they reduce theirsugar and go to ketosis.
Where their bodies, yourbody will produce ketones.

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And so you go into ketosis.
It makes you feel way better.
It makes you feel like you've got energy.
It makes your brain work better.
It does a lot of things.
And there's even science that says.
You can literally live, your brain cansurvive on ketones without the need for
glucose, if you're, if you go deep intoketosis enough, but that is so limiting,
what I, cause I tried them all and Iactually enjoyed each thing that I did.

(50:13):
I noticed various different attributesthat I experienced, but at the end of
the day, it comes down to one thing.
There are things that are good, thingsthat are great, things that are greater.
And there's things thatare the greatest of all.
And they're way up here.
And the greatest of allis the simplest of all.
And so after trying all those thingsand really going deep into each one,

(50:36):
I let it just saw all these iterationscame out and I started to think,
okay, I started to realize that,okay, there's pieces of the puzzle.
Now there's micro pieces for each puzzlepiece and then there's bigger puzzle
pieces and how do they go together?
How do they fit the best?
So after all this research andinvesting more than 40 million into
learning about all these things.

(50:58):
And doing them all at theend, it became super simple.
that when you, so people like I'llgive it, I always give people example.
If you and I wanted to goclimb Mount Kilimanjaro and say
you're into the ketosis thing,
Yeah.

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to be consuming tons and tons ofglucose to climb the mountain.
And you're not going tobe taking any at all.
You're going to be relying on ketonesthat your body has to produce.
I don't have to produce this.
I just drink it, right?
Or I eat it.
Who's going to, who's goingto get up the mountain better?
Okay, good point.
Okay.

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way more power, way more strength?
I mean, it's not evenclose to the same thing.
Who's going to have way better muscles?
The muscles are built from amino acids.
So I found out that there's avery specific type of amino acids.
You just take a little bitof it, just one tablet.
And we're procuringthese things right now.
One tablet is equivalent to half a poundof steak as far as available amino acids.

(52:26):
If you're eating animal productsand you want protein, only 34, this,
36%, 36 percent of animal products.
Provide utilizable protein aminoacids because you've got to
convert the protein to amino acids.
64 percent of that is catabolic.

(52:47):
That means it's releasing energy thatyou can't use and you have to expel it.
So it makes your body workvery hard to get the amino
acids out of animal products.
If you go to vegetable proteins andrely on that, you're only getting
16 percent which means that 84percent of the this is catabolic.
You have to work even harderto get stuff out of vegetables

(53:10):
Yeah.
that eliminates it altogether by,by simply using these very available
crystalline and they're all natural.
Acids.
So I don't need to worry about that.
That's totally taken care of.
I have more than enoughavailable amino acids in my body.
It's in my bloodstream within 23 minutes
Yeah.
and that only covers that.

(53:31):
So I don't need toworry about that at all.
And I don't have any fat excessat all coming into my system.
And so I have nothing preventingthe glucose from being utilized
fully by every cell in my body.
So brain power is maximized.
That's why, people go intodementia and Alzheimer's because.
They don't have enough glucose fuelingtheir brain and they think, Oh, more fat.

(53:53):
No, you're, that would be a fat head.
, your brain is mostly glucoseand only a little bit of fat.
And people think, Oh no, you get the,you get these fats are so important.
No, it's all misinformation.
And so people, they get good, great,greater or greatest, which would you like?
It's just like going to theokay violin teacher or the best

(54:13):
violin teacher in the world.
The okay violin teacher, you're goingto learn how to play the violin.
You're just not going to beamazing at it, that's all,
It's all about, the education and theinformation that we're exposed to as well
because, a lot of us are not hearing thestuff that you've just been talking about.
So this is absolutely fascinating foryou to run through all of this for us.

(54:34):
What's your biological andstructural age now, can I ask?
It's measuring between 25 and 35years old and it's maintaining there.
I don't know if I can get ityounger than that right now because
Do you need it younger than that?
That sounds, 25 year old, I'dbe pretty happy with that.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
25 to 30 in that range.
But the biggest thing isto maintain that ongoing.

(54:57):
sure.
So it becomes a lifestyle choice.
And I guess the more energized and themore efficiently your body is working,
and that you don't have those, uh,cravings for food and things like that.
I think you just, your bodynaturally attunes itself to
what it needs, doesn't it?
And it signals that to you.

(55:18):
So that's really incredible.
Just before, we finish up here, I, whatare some of the key things that you
learned from facing your own mortality?
What do you think you learned the most?
The thing that there was the biggestimpact on me personally was to realize

(55:39):
that I am the one that is 100 percentresponsible and that if I didn't take
responsibility and I was going to givethat to somebody else, to a doctor,
to a practitioner, to somebody else,that they would do the best they
could, but they don't have the ability.
To take care of cause me, I'mwith myself day in and day

(56:00):
out every second of the day.
I'm with myself, right?
Whether I'm with other peopleor not, I'm still with me.
So I, what I had to learn was how my bodyrequired support and that I was going to
step up and say, you know what, if I dothe wrong thing, I'm going to pay a price.
I can't afford if I do the rightthing, I'm going to get a reward

(56:22):
that I'm going to be so thankful for.
And so it's a based eitheryou're going to pay a price.
You're going to get areward, which would you like?
And I honestly, at the, at thattime wanted to lay down and die.
I was so sick.
I was so messed up.
I was depressed.
I was way overweight.
I looked terrible.
I was, I stunk.
I was no fun to be around.

(56:43):
I had these different orders comingoff my body that were terrible.
I wasn't digesting my food, right?
I was addicted to all the horrible foods.
That was a whole nother story.
I had food addiction.
I didn't even know Iwasn't drinking alcohol.
I wasn't doing drugs.
I wasn't smoking cigarettes.
I stopped that when I was 21, becauseUnfortunately, I experienced, I
experimented with that stuff when I wasin my teens up to my 21st, 21st birthday,

(57:05):
all my 21st birthday, big things happened.
It was very interesting, but that,that, that wasn't the problem.
It was my, I was full of heavymetals because I had gotten poisoned
from working in the oil field.
I didn't know that I wasfull of fungal infections.
I had yeast overgrowth.
I had all this stuff.
So it was me.
If I lay down and died, thatwould be my responsibility.

(57:27):
And that would be so humiliating.
At that age, embarrassing.
Just that alone, just the egofactor was, would be just crushing.
And I thought, I've got tostand up and find out because
it's live, die, sink, or swim.
I'm either going to live and swimor I'm going to sink and die.
What are you going to do, Ian?
Wake up.
You're the problem.
I was the, I'm a hundred percent theproblem if there's something wrong.

(57:50):
And that's, yeah, that's basically it.
And that's the thing though, isn't it?
Is that we're always looking externallyfor the fix and often the fix comes from
within, so we've just got to be able totrust our own intuition on this, even
if it's massively going against whateverybody else thinks and says, exactly

(58:11):
like what you did with your family.
They thought you were probably abit cuckoo, you know, Having faith
in things that looked to be makingyou worse, not better, though
eventually they did make you better.
It's a lot about justlistening, to ourselves.
Yeah, that's incredible.
Just before we finish up, I have afew quick questions I want to ask you.

(58:33):
What is the best thing that hashappened to you so far today?
So far today, I just, I woke up, I got,drove in late last night and I woke
up in the morning and I was just superthankful for the thing for, I was just
walking around going, thank you God forshowing me these things, for letting
me in on this amazing information.

(58:55):
And every day it just gets better.
And I'm, that's whatI'm super thankful for.
And that I actually have somethingof incredible value to share with
people and they don't answer to me.
They answer to themselves.
All I do is I give them the gold.
It's up to them what they do with it.
I give it to them.
And now it's in their hands.
So that is the, that I was just thinkingabout that about two hours ago, how

(59:18):
amazing that is and how thankful I am.
what is something you'remost grateful for?
I'm grateful to be alive.
I'm grateful to be given access to thiskey information that allows people to
do better in their life and to allow meand my family to do better in our lives.
When you have moments in your day thatturn to custard, what's your go to?

(59:40):
How do you pivot out of those moments?
Sorry to
Oh, when you have moments inyour day that are not going well.
We just have a phrase here.
Sorry.
I, yeah, we have thephrase turn to custard.
So when things are not goingwell and they turn to custard,
how do you pivot out of that?
Oh, cool.
That's an interesting, I'venever heard that one before.

(01:00:01):
Very Kiwi.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Very cool.
So what I tend to do immediatelyis I just do a rhythmic breathing
because when things don't gowell, it doesn't help to be upset.
And so if you're put into sympatheticstress, suddenly then that can
make you not think as clearly.
So what I do is I just sit back andI do rhythmic breathing for around

(01:00:24):
five minutes, if it's really intense.
If it's just a little bit of anirritation, I'll do about 30 seconds.
And that means you breathe in throughyour nose to the count of five
very smoothly and breathe out tothe count of six very smoothly and
do that continuously, just calmly.
And what that does is it completelytunes your autonomic nervous
system into parasympathetic.

(01:00:45):
It calms you right down.
This is measurable.
I have a device that you can measure it.
You put it on your ear, you can seeit on a graph and within 30 seconds,
you're right into the green zone.
So that's one of my go toswhenever something is, stressful
and for a dozen.
that we all have the ability tobreathe and it's such an easy go to.
And I believe so much in the power ofour breath and how important it is.

(01:01:09):
And I think a lot of us don't realize.
About that power, just howwe are breathing and how
that affects how we feel.
So great.
I'm glad you brought that up in whatan absolutely fascinating conversation.
And I know we could have just kepttalking and talking about this because
it really is, diving into thingsthat are really fascinating for our

(01:01:32):
listeners who are, who want to knowmore about who you are, what you were
doing and how they can get hold of someof the products that you've mentioned,
how do they go about doing that?
Now, the best place to find thisis through our company website,
which is activation products.
com.
And we have a subscription where peoplecan subscribe to a list for free and

(01:01:55):
get a lot of this key information.
So just help them in their daily life.
We always give a lot of free info.
And I'm also on, I don't go on socialmedia myself because I don't have
time, but I do publish on social media.
So on TikTok, I have Ian activatedand on Instagram, Ian Clark activated.
So there's, I was putting shortlittle videos out there just to help

(01:02:18):
people along the road with differentquestions that come up a lot of times.
Yeah, that's great.
Hey, and I just want to thank you so verymuch for taking the time to speak to me
today and to share your experience, thejourney that you went through to find
this incredible health that you've gotyourself back to and the power of your

(01:02:40):
mind and your faith and your belief.
To do that, because I think without thosethings, you probably would have just
been listening to what everybody else wassaying that you should or shouldn't do.
So I, I think that's a keycomponent in your story and
yeah, thank you so very much.

(01:03:00):
Yeah.
Thank you, Helen.
It's been a pleasure.
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