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I trained doctors all over the world.
I trained nurses all over the world.
I trained, Reiki masters, housewives,everybody, anybody who wants to learn.
I believe there should bea healer in every home.
I believe if you have Tylenol inthe medicine cabinet, you should
have a healer in your home.
Every mother on the planetshould heal their child before
they take them to the doctor.
If it doesn't work, then go to the doctor.
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Yeah, there are certain surgeriesthat have to take place.
but why not let me do a healing on you
so you don't have to geta hip replacement, right?
Or if you have a surgery, Let me do ahealing on you to take the inflammation
down from the surgery so you have aquicker and more profound healing from
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what you've just had a surgery because of.
I've worked on people that are blindand they're not blind anymore or people
that can't hear and now they can hear orpeople that couldn't walk and now they
can walk or and then I've done healings onpeople that are having, 40% better or 50
percent better, but not completely healed.
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And at the end of the day,this all belongs to God, right?
So if it's time to gohome, you're going home.
We can't override our creator.
My guest today on the Beautiful Side ofGrief, Candace Silvers, was born with
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the ability to understand human behavior.
So we will delve into that a littlebit more, plus what led her to become
a world renowned healer, creating theSilvers Healing Modality and being a
teacher of that, as well as a humanbehavioral expert featured on Gaia and
other global platforms, which feature justsome of her quantified medical miracles.
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We'll also talk about NEDs,no evidence of disease.
How cool is that?
We're also going to explore howshe discovered and connected
to ancient Balinese healing
Though, what attracts me most aboutCandace, that I want to share with you, is
her belief that we are the healers of notonly ourselves, but our families as well.
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You know that this is something thatresonates with my own story, except
it took me many life lessons anda very long path to discover that.
But Candace knew it withoutknowing it from a very young age.
All I can say is, wow, what anabsolute privilege it is to be
speaking with you today, Candace.
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Oh, what a lovely introduction.
thank you so much for having me, Helen.
Ah, you're most welcome.
I don't, I have to calm myselfdown because I am literally so
excited to be talking to you.
The research I did into you just,ah, it just ticked so many boxes.
But I thought what we'd start with isexploring your childhood, because you
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grew up in a very privileged Hollywoodcommunity, yet within your family, you
were different even from your twin sister.
You were a vegetarian with a lisp.
Tell us a little bit about that becauseI believe a lot of people who are on a
path to helping others feel that also.
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Well, I, I believe that Igenerally share it this way.
if God wants to create a pearl,he has to put sand in the oyster.
Oh Good.
We see obstacles and problems in ourlives as blockers or, dislocations or
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ways of stopping our own personal desires.
And, we unfortunately culturally seeit as someone did it to us or we're not
good enough or, we were born in the wrongfamily or we don't make enough money
or, we just make up all of this stuff.
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We have forgotten to see, to connect.
We've forgotten to get that.
We are all here by God's grace.
We have forgotten that everything thathappens to us actually happens for us.
That the only way to learn and growis to go beyond what you know, which
means there has to be a wall or a blockor an out of order in order to have a
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reorder to have the wall come down andbe the drawbridge to walk out over.
We are stopped by our obstacles insteadof inspired by them as possibilities.
Oh Yeah, I love what you've just saidthere because it's about us breaking
to rebuild ourselves into what weneed to be, and we need that journey.
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We need those experiences.
We need those lessons tobecome the best we can be.
Like, I would not be here speakingwith you, unless I had gone through
everything I've been through.
This has led me on this incrediblejourney and I'm so grateful to be in
this place now, but it took a lot ofheartache and it took a lot of trauma
and it took a lot of courage, to pickmyself up, dust myself off and carry on.
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And that's what you'retalking about, isn't it?
It's like being able to see past it.
100 percent and I, your story is obviouslya great one and enchanting and mystifying
because it deals with different sides.
However, I don't believe we break.
I don't think we break to grow.
I think it feels like we're broken.
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Good distinction.
I, it's just like when you fall out oflove, your lover leaves you, you say,
you know, I have a broken heart or myheart is broken as opposed to my job is
to break the heart To learn from it andmake it user friendly to see where I
was once in and out of order, where ourconnection wasn't co creating anymore,
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maybe because of my partner or myself orboth of us together, but instead of saying
my heart is broken, that person left me.
What was in my way?
How did that occur?
What could I do to grow and develop?
So we're looking at opportunities andpossibilities and growing ourselves
instead of, well, you know, you can sayfeeling sorry for yourself or quitting
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or giving up or blaming or, a myriad ofother cultural normalities that don't
do us any good except take us out ofthe pool of life and put us on the weigh
station or the sidelines having opinions.
yeah, I agree with that.
You also talk about, you not seeingthe outsides, which, you say can
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also sometimes get you in trouble.
When you refer to the outsides, are youmeaning the carefully moulded masks we
wear and present to the world that youactually see what the person truly is?
100%.
However, life is a paradox and itdepends on where you're standing,
what the meaning is, right?
So if you're happy and we havethe same conversation about the
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day you got married, you're goingto see it from a great place.
If you're very upset with yourspouse today, and we have that same
conversation, you're going to seewhere you were in lack or they were
in lack or something was missing.
So paradoxically, when you say howI see someone, it depends on the
conversation of the conscious contactof that individual in that moment.
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But yes, interrelated as a concept,when we see others outsides, we see
the color of your hair, how tallyou are, what we know about you.
That is my mind meeting your mind.
That is my set of circumstancesmeeting your set of circumstances.
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When we let's just say fall in love, wehave fallen from our mind to our heart.
We have bridged into each other.
We have had what we all knownow as intimacy in to me.
I see.
When I'm connected to you,I feel deeper into me.
Therefore, I enjoy being connectedinto you because I feel deeper.
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We call that, well, that isn'twhat we call love, but love
takes place in that investment.
One step further than that is where,when someone will, a lot of people run
around saying they're clairvoyant, orhave ESP or the like, when you have
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learned to disintegrate yourself fromyour experiences so that you are co
creating with other as self, yourmind comes down like the hourglass.
That sand that's falling has fallen.
It sits in a meditative state while youreyes are open and your lips are moving.
So you're not thinking, thinking isoccurring, but you're not connected to it.
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Therefore, whoever's standing in frontof you, when you have something come
through you, you know, it belongs to them.
Therefore you are involved, not outvolved.
You're not, you're two eyes from yourown history, doing the looking of what
but involved, I am connected to you.
Therefore our community coming tounity, our interaction, we, how we
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enter the action of the presence, howwe communicate will be other as self,
not my thinking, thoughtful mind, tryingto get something from you, whether what
I'm getting, what I want from you ishappiness or joy or love or lunch or
money or business or sex or, any of theabove when we surrender our mind, our
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wants, our recipe of I've come to get.
My day is about waking up in themorning, driving the car, getting
to the place, accomplishing thatgoal, going to the next place.
How do you live your life and be involvedin your world and not be of your mind?
Wow.
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that's a huge conceptto get your head around.
But I, is it to do with the energythat you're putting out, that you pick
up, that goes beyond the mind and whatpeople are seeing from the outside?
It's what you feel, whatyou feel for that person.
Of course, everything is energy.
Everything is energy.
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nothing isn't energy.
It's that we will see that energy asa shape, as an idea, as an experience.
And then we will co create withthe idea, losing the energy.
Not that.
Think about a table thathas a table cloth on it.
It's not that the table is not there.
It's that you don't see the table anymorebecause you're dealing with the cloth.
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And then you deal with the clothfor so long, you forget that
there was ever a table under it.
So it's when you're connected.
So, think about, let's do it this way.
Think about E equals MC squared.
Think about energy equals Manifestationmaterial assistance material times
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itself times the speed of light.
Think about, you know, we're still ina quandary of Albert Einstein's theory.
And, what came first,the chicken or the egg?
What came first energy?
And then we saw it or we saw it andthen therefore it created an energy.
So my job is to teach people tostand in the equals in between.
So you're not in the energyor the manifestation.
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It's energy.
E equals mc square.
So what if you were in the equals, youwere in a, as a peaceful witness, you
were in a meditative state of observance.
So when things come in and go out theLela, the things the aptitude, the
investigation would become the viewer'sdirect experience of what came into
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existence instead of from energy.
Or material assistance, and we couldhave energy as we could flavor it as
happy, sad, glad, mad, or we could favorit as love or hatred, manifestation.
We could also flavor that is, a bed, ahouse, a car, or we could flavor it as a
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war or a cultural consciousness, right?
So there isn't.
There isn't, it isn't athing until we name it.
So let's add this piece to it.
When we're born, when we'reall born, it's a wall of dough.
It's all things are all things.
A one day old baby, a two week oldbaby doesn't know it has a mother or
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it landed in France or America or it'srich or poor or it's a boy or a girl.
It's just a witness observing.
The more it begins to learn,I am a girl or I am a boy.
These are my parents.
I have parents.
I speak this language.
When I cry, I get a breast or a bottle.
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If we start to learn things.
As we learn things, we react to something.
It gives us something.
We identify it in a habitedreaction until we get old enough
to put a word to it, a label to it.
We call that, or I call that, thatthe wall of dough that we're born
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into pops and becomes wall dough.
oh.
Once we see wall dough, we will never notsee it again for the rest of our life.
When we see that wall of dough, we willsee girl, or California, or wealthy,
or angry, or And that is how we'll see.
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It'll never un pop.
Again, just you and I rightnow, neither one of us.
Have you been to Russia?
No.
Okay, neither have I.
So we'll pick Russia.
You and I are driving down the streetand they have huge billboards that say
things on it that are selling things,like we would have a Coke can or whatever.
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They have huge billboards.
We're driving down the street.
You and I, we're in Russia together.
It's a wall of dough.
We have, we don't knowhow to speak Russian.
We don't know what they're selling.
All we see, we have no wayto distinct out what it is.
All we see are billboards because wecan't make out what's on the billboard
because it's still a wall of dough.
We haven't pre decided what to read.
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The minute you and I take a Russianclass and we learn, we've now lived
there for eight months, we know aboutthe foods and the diet and what's for
sale and maybe it's about politicsor whatever's on the billboard.
Now you and I drive down thatexact same street eight months
later and we know what we see.
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Once we know what we see,we'll never unsee it again.
yeah.
So now energy has manifest into Waldo,and when I see you, I see the you
that my history tells me you are.
Maybe I had a third grade teacher thatreminds me of you, and she was the
sweetest, kindest, you know, thing onthe planet, and I see you, Helen, and
I immediately feel close and comforted.
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Or maybe, when I was two years old, adog bit me, and I see the dog sitting
behind you, which you don't have,but let's pretend it never happened.
Yep.
You have a dog sitting behind you andnow I'm in a little bit of fear or
dislocation because my body is reactingto the wall of dough that popped into
Waldo that said dogs are dangerousand I see a dog on your screen.
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So now when I see the dog, Ijust immediately go to fear, even
though we're not even on the samecontinent and it's on your screen.
It will still color and shape,what my eyes doing the looking see.
So my two eyes that do the seeing areonly connected to my own personal history.
We know this, his story bookor her story book, right?
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Your history and your history is made upof the experiences that happened to you
with you, for you, because of you in thosefirst seven or eight years of your life.
Pre verbal pre you understood them.
They happened to you.
You came into existence with it.
Not you chose to feel happy, sad,glad or mad, but it happened to you.
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As that begins to happen, youdevelop in your her story book.
You write on that page.
This is what this means.
Dogs are scary.
Your dogs are cuddly.
Only your intellect never getsto read the book, understand
the book, create the book.
Your who am I just reactsto what your eyes see.
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you can only see what your history has predecided, pre labeled that billboard is.
Until you speak with someonethat goes, that billboard says
that Putin is a good person.
And then you talk to 12 people,because you just moved to Russia, and
you decide Putin is a good person.
And then you get on the phone and youtalk to someone else who you trust and
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enjoy, who goes, Putin is a bad person.
Now, when you see the billboard, ,it'sa bad billboard because someone colored
that, what your two eyes see thatshifts The label in your Her story.
So now, when we're driving down thestreet, we only see what we know.
Okay, so now we have an awareness.
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And this takes years of practice, butwhat else are we doing besides nothing?
Worrying?
so once you get to a place where youknow my two eyes that are doing the
looking, are only seeing what my ownpersonal history has dictated as true.
And I know I'm only on this planet fora certain period of time and I don't
want to just react as a puppet headuntil I die feeling safe in these areas,
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and unsafe in these areas, and goodin these areas and bad in these areas.
I want to learn.
I want to go beyond what I know.
So I'm going to begin to show upplaces to become willing to risk seeing
what's just beyond what I know, whichis going to create a discomfort and
a small bit of upsetment because nowI'm not just there reacting to Waldo.
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I'm now there holding still in thepause, observing what else could
be going on beyond what I know.
Now, if you're studying with me, I'mgoing to give you a what if to play with,
but right now, from the question you'veasked, I'm giving you the lay of the land.
Then you come and study with me andyou learn how to do energy work.
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Yeah.
Meaning in six weeks, I'm going toteach you in my, my academy, my level
one healing academy, how to actuallyprofoundly heal people where, you know,
if their backs are out, you can heal them.
If they have cancer, you can help them,whether the cancer goes away in one
session or, obviously this belongs toGod, not us, but huge percentage of.
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miraculous experiences.
So once you have been involved inmiraculous experiences and what is
a miracle, except something my mindcan't calculate, my eyes can't see, my
mind can't understand, that is clearlyculturally on our planet not happening.
And yet it's happeningwith me in the front row.
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So once you begin to start studyingwith me in, for instance, the modality
that I created, you're now dealing withenergy that your mind can't calculate.
It can't remember, repeat, do it again.
It can't, you can'tgrow ego because of it.
You can't think you're cool or greator better than someone else because
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you can heal cancer and they can'tbecause every time you put your
hands on someone is the first timeand you never know what will happen.
You are simply a servant,a selfless servant.
That's become willing to risk puttingyour hands on someone, whether it's on
zoom or in person or on a picture becauseyou want to play with energy, you want
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to help someone heal or to show someonehow to melt their mind to see that what's
possible is beyond their wildest dreams.
Now you're not necessarilyWaldo history book.
Now you're a peaceful warrior, apeaceful witness to the experience of
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what is possible that you have no ideawhat will occur until you show up.
Now you're residing onthe planet in a new way.
The peaceful warrior.
Yes.
That's such a great description for whatyou're describing because I think, a lot
of us are walking around still very muchoperating from a subconscious level where,
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you know, 90, 90%, 95 percent of whatwe're doing, we're not even thinking about
how we're doing it and why we're doing it.
We're not thinking it, it's thinking us.
We are, we're being used by our minds.
Yes, and then because we buy into,you know, belief systems that are not
necessarily beneficial for us and areout of alignment, that's where we start
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to get dis ease in our body, isn't it?
You know, that manifests intodisease and pain and things
think about it.
What is your belief system?
But what you be and livebelieve is to be and live.
Where did that belief system come from?
If it wasn't your parents or your clergyor your teachers or your siblings, who, if
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they all thought you were the cat's meowand you were the coolest thing and they
all looked to you as the oldest and first
born, your belief system says I havevalue and power and people come to me.
If you were the youngest and a runtand drove everyone crazy, your belief
system says I'm impotent and lessthan, and don't make a lot of, friends.
So that belief systemthat happened to you.
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You didn't do it.
It happened to you.
Your behavior, what yoube, you have, it's yours.
Behave your what you be,you have, it's yours.
Your behavior, how you reactedto the situation, brought it into
existence a particular way or not.
However, that then colors andshapes your belief system.
Your belief system thenis what you repeat.
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Like I believe this or I don't believethat you just repeat that ad nauseam
without any kind of investigation.
And when you stop to think for amoment, Helen, if you don't want to be
afraid, don't think a scary thought,
Yes.
but we have a superstition thatsays I have to think this scary
thought or it'll get worse.
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Who made that up?
Where, as opposed to the innerconnectivity and interaction of
beyond what you know, that you'renow playing with, I'm playing within
this to see what else there is.
Then certain things happen, right?
Someone dies or you go bankrupt or You'rein a car accident that, really harms you.
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I'm moving more toward you.
But, that, this now isa game changer, right?
This is the ever ready battery, butthe bunny, do you guys have that where
yes.
the wall bounces off the walland goes in another direction.
We can either say it happened to us,or we can say it happened for us.
You have to understand thatthe only thing on our planet
that doesn't mind Is the mind.
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The mind is the only thing onour planet that doesn't mind.
And yet the first placewe're sent is to the mind.
When in doubt ask, think it through,that's just the worst direction.
Anybody could give anyone when in doubt,take an action beyond your wildest dreams
to see what's possible or go find a guidethat's accomplished what you'd like to
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set out to do and ask them to teach you.
But your fear keeps you the same.
When you hit a wall back to youand you go beyond your wildest
dreams, like it happened to you,it's too big, too wide, too deep.
There's no way to understand itor assess it or stay who you are.
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you have to know, not that personwould know in that moment, it's
impossible, but you have to knowthat this is a pattern interrupt like
ever ready battery hitting the wall.
You have to at some point come toterms with, this is a new chapter
in my life or a new book in my life,that you are now being asked to
go beyond your total maximum self.
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Now, most of us live in shock.
And once we get into shock, we canactually atrophy on that bridge.
Shock is something I call thebridge in between two known places.
The place that used to be your reality.
Life is this way every day, all day long.
It's good or bad, happyor sad, but it's this way.
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And then something occursthat's beyond what you know.
It takes you on the bridge inbetween the way it will be once you
get used to it, the way it will be.
Once you get used to it and theway it was, it will never be
the way it was again, but itisn't the way it will be yet.
Why?
When we're on that bridge in between thetwo places, that's what I call shock.
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We have nowhere to land, no way toidentify ourselves, no way to sit,
to rest, or say, Oh, this meansthis because nothing means anything
anymore because of what has occurred.
When nothing means anything anymore,that's when people come and find me
because that's when while on thatbridge, you can actually recreate
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brilliance, Godlike behavior, thedepth of investigation, the miraculous
experiences, but most people on thatbridge in shock, atrophy and die there.
They develop bad negativebecause if something negative
happened, they say, wait a minute,something negative happened.
I'm in shock, right?
It's not the way it was ever again.
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It never will be, but it'snot the way it will be yet.
I've no idea where I am.
And all I have on this bridgeis the knowledge of this
death or this massive problem.
And so the death and the massive problemeat you instead of that's the calling
card into the growth of the depth of now.
And not to say if your child dies, thatyou say, I'm okay with it because I
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talked to Candace and she said, this isgrief, like this is just shock, right?
No, but that then right in the beginning,look, if someone gets molested, you don't
say in the moment, isn't that great?
You're going to learn so much, right?
Well, let's hug them and hold themat the level that inception is taking
place and you feed them well and putthem to sleep and make them feel safe.
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Over time you want to be able to bewith them as a guide in a way that
helps them see, had that not happened,you wouldn't know this to help that.
For instance, if Michael J.
Fox hadn't gotten Parkinson's, he wouldnot have become the name of Parkinson's
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making such huge strides and differencesand all the money he was able to gather,
in charity and to help to learn from.
If hadn't happened, all of thisgood grace wouldn't have happened.
He wouldn't have the relationshipwith his wife that he has today.
He wouldn't have theworld that he has today.
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But when he found out he had Parkinson'sand he was getting used to living
in a different seat, on this planet.
We're not going to sayto him, isn't this great?
All this goodness is going to comefrom you getting this disease, right?
So there's different, sub chapterswithin the chapter that must take place.
And I have found over, a long period oftime, my own investigation of being a
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human behavioral specialist for 30 some36 years, people don't know how to grieve.
They have no idea how to grieve.
They have no idea where they are, whatthey are, why they are, how they are,
how to move forward with what they are.
So they start atrophying
Why do you suppose that is?
Why do you suppose theyhave no idea how to
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we don't live in a culturethat has any ideas.
The wisdom has been inbred out.
Think about.
In the 5th century or the 15th century,think about nobody lived very long.
Death was part of life.
Death was just part of life.
You got a tooth infection and you died.
You died in childbirth.
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It was risky to be alive.
It was risky to be a human being.
And we worked very muchin unison of tribal.
No matter where you were born, it was yourcommunity against the tax collector or
your community against the other communityor your community against, the rapist
in the community or whatever it was.
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And there was no self doubt orself thought or self anxiety
because there was no choice.
Anxiety didn't come to this planetuntil we develop choice back.
Then you were the subjectof your experience.
As a unit, not an individual,back then you died.
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It doesn't mean that your mother didn'twaste away or your siblings weren't, you
know, it means that it was consideredpart of normal and people grieved to
whatever degree they were able to grieve.
They grieved because itwasn't considered bad form.
Today, nobody knows how to grieve.
So they say, okay, your mother died.
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You get two weeks off,go home, figure it out.
When you come back, don't bringany of that with you because
we got to get back to work.
Yeah.
And even, I would say a hundredyears ago on the farms here, even in
America, when great grandma got readyto die, she got in bed with the kids,
the grandkids, the great grandkids.
They all gathered around.
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They told beautiful stories.
She told everyone whyshe loved them so much.
They all got up close to herand she took her last breath.
Today, it's all based on and fear andseparation and what you're not gonna
have and what the medical communitydid to you and how your family wasn't
there to support and you don't have themoney and we've lost the ability not
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only to grieve but to understand the thepractice and the process in grieving.
Just think about if you got pregnanttoday but no one told you what
pregnancy was by the time you weresix seven months pregnant you would
get a stick and cut it out of youthinking there was an alien in you
you
no one shared with you, you'rebringing God into the world.
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You're bringing Your offspringin the world, given you a gift
by something greater by creation,you're not the doer of the deed.
You simply had sex.
It happened to you.
You can't go buy a baby.
you can in our medical
bet.
but not.
You can say I'd like toget pregnant tonight.
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Good luck.
Yeah.
So this is a, if you didn't havesomeone share with you, or young
girls years ago when they got theirperiod for the first time, if their
mother didn't share with them whatit was, they thought they were dying.
Now, grieving is something that everyoneeverywhere should, could, can, should
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be able to do and understand, but ifno one in your community is saying
you're pregnant or you're menstruatingand all of a sudden a loved one
dies and the rest of the world turnsan about face and looks the other
way, but what's available to you?
Alcohol, drugs, anger, disassociation,quitting, giving up, feelings of
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loss, helplessness, loneliness.
That's what our cultureis breeding right now.
And then you get people who saythey're helping you with grieving, but
they don't know what they're doing.
So now someone goes, I'm going toa counselor who's helping me with
grieving, but they're not feeling it.
They're not learning from it.
They're not growing.
They're not deepening as, because of it.
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Wow.
I, look, that analogy of being on thebridge in your grief is so apt and
so good and so descriptive becausethe length of the bridge obviously is
determined by the experiences you'vehad in your life up to that point.
So I feel that because I had experiencedso much from my childhood through my
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teen years into my adult years, that ina way, I was actually being prepared for
Tahl's death, even though I didn't wantit or like it, I was being prepared, which
enabled me to be on a perhaps much, muchsmaller and shorter bridge, because I
could look at it almost from the beginningthrough a different lens, through to
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say, okay, yeah, I don't like this, butI'm accepting it because it's happened.
And so why?
Oh, I didn't even ask why all I didwas just learn to understand what
I was feeling and to process that.
When you begin to understand, forinstance, when your daughter passed you
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now, she has given you this incrediblegift because now through your connection
to her, you can connect to the other side
Yes.
because when you can feel her on the otherside, you actually know the other side.
So she's gifted you this gift.
She has also taken time away fromyou because it becomes timeless
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when your loved one passes.
There are so many giftsthat someone passing gets.
Look, if one of my daughter, daughtersor sons, I have four children.
If one of them passed awaytoday, all bets are off.
You wouldn't hear from me for I probably.
if I didn't have other children andgrandchildren, I'm sure I would just
go to heaven with them because that's,you know, but and the conversation
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we're having would be one I wouldwant someone to have with me should
that happen, that one of the thingsyou begin to understand is that, and
I'll do this with you for you to you.
right now.
But one of the things you begin tounderstand is that when you see the
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death of your loved one is a badthing, you're actually sending them the
message that their death harmed you.
If their death harmed you, they thenbecome connected to you on Earth to take
care of you through that connection.
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They don't get to fly off and go toVenus or do whatever the heck they
want to do in their own nurturing stateof next developmental whatever that
is that none of us will ever know.
We could all say, write books on itand say, here's what I see and think.
But until you die, youdon't know for sure.
However, when you begin to understand thatsomeone that dies It doesn't go anywhere.
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You're born here.
You die here.
The world began here.
The Big Bang Theory is going on here.
There's never going to be a there.
There's never been a there.
You and I have been heresince we came to the planet.
Now we were here before we came tothe planet, but let's not have that
conversation because we were born here.
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Here.
Think of it this way, Helen.
You're on a people mover at the airport.
You're not walking.
You're not moving.
You're not going anywhere.
What's happening is the walls are moving.
The days are moving.
The experiences are moving.
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You have never moved from thefirst moment of your life.
Your physical physiologicalbody is altering.
Gravity is helping.
Food is helping.
Environment is helping.
But you're not going anywhere.
Every experience you have givingbirth, making love, burying your
child is all happening here.
You're not going anywhere.
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You're not coming from anywhere.
When your child is no longer herebecause of a car accident and their
body drops, they are physicallyphysiologically not here anymore.
as you and I are trained from birthto know each other, we're trained to
know each other as our five sensoryautomotive physical physic physiology.
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But once.
the body drops, that energy, thatconnection cannot go anywhere.
And as you begin to learn toconnect to other presently.
Now you and I can dothat right now together.
So I can show you whatI mean, close your eyes.
Okay.
Pick a time with your daughter.
Anytime.
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I don't care the birth of your daughteror a birthday or whatever time.
Let me know when you're there.
Okay, I'm there.
What are you two doing?
So she's walking through the door.
really excited, justgoing, Hey, Mama, I'm home.
and so instantly just hearingthat makes me feel, Oh, my gosh.
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And I turn around and I just smile at her.
Yeah.
Brilliant.
Now Helen, I'm going to ask youto go over and give her a hug.
Let me know when you're hugging her.
Oh, yeah, right
let me know when she's hugging you back.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
And feel her and let her feel you.
And back up and look into her eyes.
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As she looks into yours.
Now Helen, That experienceis called a viscerality.
Okay.
not an intellectuality.
That viscerality, that visceralreality that you just experienced is
as true as you and I talking right now.
You really and truly 100 percent justhad that experience and that cannot be
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taken from you under any circumstances.
Someone could make you feelcrazy for having that experience.
Just like I was born a vegetarian andpeople made me feel crazy in the 60s until
I think I was in my late teens or early20s before the word vegetarian existed.
Yeah.
And my mom used to make me sit atthe table for three hours after every
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meal because she came from Florida.
It was a very meat eating, like youhave to eat liver to be healthy.
And she thought she was helping me.
And then she made my four sisters sitat the table to bring peer pressure to
make me eat meat because she thoughtshe was helping me until I was about
25 years old and she would call me andsay, you know, you're the healthiest
member of this family and you knewwhat you were doing not eating meat.
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But they did their best to make mefeel crazy to do what the culture had
said at the time is the right thing.
this culture today can make you feel crazyfor having your relationship with your
daughter, which you will have again whenyour body drops, but why should someone,
because they live in our culture andthere's no word vegetarianism yet, be made
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to feel guilty for being able to co createand co connect with other, presently, you
are 100 percent clear you did not justfabricate and make that up, that you were
hugging your daughter, you really were.
As you learn, no, you're not going toget to have a wedding for her and see
her get married and have, no, you're notgoing to get to have the manifestation on
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this planet of those things our culturehas made up, but you're going to get to
have something much more dear than that.
You're going to get to have somethingthat very few people on this planet get.
Most people on this planet pay fortheir kids weddings and they have
Christmas with their families,but they don't have connection.
They, the family members don't likeeach other, they talk at each other,
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they don't want to be around each other.
They're physically here in humanform, but they're not connected.
What really matters, rememberE equals MC squared, matters.
What really manifests.
through connection, a visceral reality,direct experience, not the intellectual
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one where we've all agreed that thereis vegetarianism or there isn't.
And what you have is a direct experience.
Are you feeling lost, anxious,unsure of how to navigate the
loss of your beautiful loved one.
Don't know where to head next.
Yeah, I get that.
Then you may be interested in A Letterof Hope and Aroha to help you find
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out who you are right here and now.
And how you can navigate that withoutbeing on that emotional roller
coaster feeling out of control.
That's a feeling I really dislikedafter Tahl and then Adrian died.
So I've developed an eight weeksupport program where each week you
get an letter of what worked for me.
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As well as other tried and true toolsto help with grief, it's a beautiful
calming, mean healing resource thatI think you're really going to like.
And that you can use in youreveryday life to find out what
works for you and what doesn't.
And the great thing is you findyourself feeling stronger and more in
control, so you can work out what youwant life to look like going forward.
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So with this sounds like somethingyou would like to check out, head
over to my website, or check out thelink in the episode notes, you're
looking for A Letter of Hope & Aroha
Now I'll tell you something.
I know this is not being filmed.
We're just
However, which I usually don't do,because if I can't prove it, I don't
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want to speak it, but I'm goingto, cause it's going to help you.
Okay.
I don't know if you know who my dad was.
He was a very famous movie star.
And there's a picture of him.
You can look him up.
You can see him.
There is an actual orb.
You know what an orb
Yes.
I read orbs.
Oh, I used to years andyears and years ago.
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I don't read them anymore, butprobably 30, 35 years ago, whenever
I was in India or Indonesia orThailand or Tulum in Mexico.
And, I would, orbs would come in heartshapes and diamond shapes and, all over.
Sometimes there would be 200 orbson a picture and I would open them
up and read the energy inside.
So I was speaking with the main director,of, Gaia TV, Sid Goldberg one day, I don't
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know, five, six years ago, and I said,or he said he was doing an orb symposium.
And I said, Oh, my God, that's amazing.
Because that's, you know, I read orbs.
And, so I sent him some orbs really cool.
Impossible orbs and he sent me someand there was one picture of an
orb on the left side of his face.
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So I took that orb and Iopened it up as I always do.
And lo and behold, inside of that orb.
was a picture of my father.
Wow.
It was literally my father.
Not like where you can say, oh,there's a leaf and I can make
out, oh, look at the cloud.
It looks like an elephant.
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it's a, I've shown itto thousands of people.
Everybody sees my father.
He's wearing his horn rim glassesand his suit and it's my dad.
Now, I figured if my dad couldget to me from heaven, then I
could get to him from earth.
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So very often I will do a healing forhim in heaven on the picture of that orb.
Because better than that, Sidsaid, that picture I just showed
you was from about 25 years ago.
how would my dad know 25 yearsago to jump into an orb that his
daughter wouldn't meet this personand look at it for 25 years?
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My father found a way.
To go somewhere that he knew Iwould look so that he could co
create and confirm for me other.
Now I've also been really blessed.
God, nature is very kind to me.
I've seen 12 foot birds.
I've fallen off thousand foot cliffs.
I've been in massive car accidentswhere cars went right through me.
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I've seen butterflies disappear andthen 15 seconds later reappear again.
things where you're really learningother side multidimensional through
direct experience, not because youread a book or you hope when you begin,
which is what you and I kind of started.
talking about E equals MCsquared, the difference between a
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thought, Waldo, or beyond what youknow, which is a wall of dough.
And my existence on this planet hasbeen to get back to a wall of dough.
Where no thing can be anything, where youcan multidimensionalize yourself, where
you can step through the wall of yourmind into other through direct experience,
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have confirmation of beyond what you know.
For someone who's grieving,this becomes monumentally huge
because you can connect them
Oh my goodness.
hey, my heart is just exploding as wejust went through that exercise and
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then you were talking about that andyou know that's always a sign to me
that my girl's right here with me islike she comes through my heart and the
more than fine more than a sign Idon't mean to talk but I want to
more than a sign you can feel her
Yes.
Why do we say things like a sign?
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You actually feel her here.
This is if close your eyes andhug her, that's not a sign.
That's not a hope.
That's not a, I'll justpretend I'm hugging her.
You can feel her and you can feel her.
And the better you get at this,you'll feel her hugging you back.
Candice, let me share with you thefunniest thing about these hugs because
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this is this is how it all works.
My daughter, if I was cross withher, she would stand in front of
my bedroom doorway and not letme go to bed until I hugged her.
I should go, no.
No, you're not, I'm not letting youthrough it, she would do this and
she was the most magical person fordissolving, anger and anything like that.
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She just went beyond and that'swhy those hugs were so amazing.
beautiful to me because this childwas my teacher in so, so many ways.
And I believe that's why she leftearly because she said, okay, done
everything I needed to do with you here.
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I'm off to do some other things.
And, But she's never left me.
Like you say, she's right herewith me, guiding me, being my
biggest mentor and, yeah, and justerasing that fear from my life.
And it is beautiful.
That's why I do this.
This is a beautiful side of grief.
This is what I want people to know.
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Let's talk about healing becausethat's what she also gifted me.
She took me on this journey where Ilearned how all about energy healing.
I learned how to do it myself, muscletest, work out what was within my
body, release it and come to thisplace of calm and peace and also
be able to do that with others.
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You have been healingpeople your entire life.
Let's, you probably have your entire life.
And I want you to explain to us now, justthis beautiful role of energy, medicine,
energy healing, and how that differsfrom the traditional medical world.
Because I still feel that both havetheir place, but I feel like we just
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need to really embrace energy healing.
Absolutely.
So I'm not really interested in talkingat people or talking people into or
I'm interested in connecting people.
So right now I know we'renot filming this, but you put
your hands up to the screen.
Do you feel that heat or
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Oh, yes.
So that heat or tingling I'm inAmerica, you're in New Zealand.
I put my hands up to my screen.
You put your hands up to your screen.
That's at least four dimensions.
Me, The screen, your screen, and you.
Yeah.
Now I'm going to blow in your face.
Tell me if you can feel wind on your face.
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Put your hands down.
Open your eyes when youfeel wind on your face.
Now I am not dead and you are not dead.
We are both here on the planet as we'veall agreed in our cultures to agree to.
And yet we've just gone through fourdifferent dimensions for you to feel
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me blow on your face, which means thereisn't other, there isn't over there.
There isn't.
start and stop there.
It's this is not intellectual.
What I do, who I am, what I teach.
This is not an intellectual concept.
This is direct connection.
So when I teach someone to heal.
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It takes me about six weeks.
I, when I first started doing thisyears and years ago, it would take
me about four years to teach someone,but I keep course correcting it.
I know you brought up in the beginning,my time in Indonesia, but I've spent
time in Africa, in, Tanzania, in,Kenya, in Rwanda, in Marrakesh.
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Time in, Thailand, differentplaces in Thailand.
Time in, India, all over India.
I spent 10 years in India.
I had a charity.
There are 200 kids I took care ofin a school, time in Indonesia, all
over Indonesia, developing with,different, tribes that I met with.
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And, and also healers and findingdifferent methodologies to course correct
and collapse time so that I could teachthis course to people in a quick way.
And in, you take a, take this coursewith me and in six weeks, you're
actually healing people with your hands.
And is this anybody?
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There is no limits to what aperson has experienced or that.
I won't take anyone under 21 years old.
Although I've had people lie to meand tell me later they were really 19.
I don't look for certificates.
I just say between 21 and I have trainedpeople in wheelchairs, people with
Parkinson's disease, people in their 80s.
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If you're a human being human,why shouldn't you get to learn?
There, there are a coupleof reasons I won't.
train someone.
I don't train lookie lose.
I don't train angry people.
It'll just burn you.
But with willingness,anybody can turn the lock.
Willingness is the keythat opens any lock.
Yeah.
So somebody who's been searching theirwhole life for, a way to cure their
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illness and what they're going through.
A lot of times I will train a motherbecause her child has cancer or
is getting, seizures or whatever.
So they'll come to learn.
I trained doctors all over the world.
I trained nurses all over the world.
I trained, Reiki masters, housewives,everybody, anybody who wants to learn.
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I believe there should bea healer in every home.
I believe if you have Tylenol inthe medicine cabinet, you should
have a healer in your home.
I believe Every mother on theplanet should heal their child
before they take them to the doctor.
If it doesn't work, then go to the doctor.
Yeah, there are certain surgeriesthat have to take place.
but why not let me do a healing on you
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so you don't have to geta hip replacement, right?
Or if you have a surgery, Let me do ahealing on you to take the inflammation
down from the surgery so you have aquicker and more profound healing from
what you've just had a surgery because of.
I've worked on people that are blindand they're not blind anymore or people
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that can't hear and now they can hear orpeople that couldn't walk and now they
can walk or and then I've done healings onpeople that are having, 40% better or 50
percent better, but not completely healed.
And at the end of the day,this all belongs to God, right?
So if it's time to gohome, you're going home.
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We can't override our creator.
I know I follow this wonderful psychicmedium and she's such a hoot, but she's
got ME and she has direct connectionto, beautiful people, ascended masters
but she still has the effects of MEand she goes, I'm not quite sure why I
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haven't received total healing aroundthis, because she has received healing.
However, she says, I have to trustthat there is a purpose for that.
And maybe the purpose is because,she is able to then educate others
around her on that whole journey.
So like you say, sometimes we sign upto stuff that we are not aware of that
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we've signed up to, that we just haveto live our lives out experiencing
You said sometimes we sign up
oh, we always,
Yeah,
sorry.
none of us signed up for oursex or the time we were coming
or who our parents were.
there's a wonderful saying going aroundthat we pick our parents and we, but
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the truth is nobody knows the truth.
It's just a wonderful thing tothink that you picked your parents,
especially if they beat you, you cantake responsibility for it, but life
happens to us, our job is how do wedeal with what happens to, it's not how
far you fall, it's how high you bounce.
Oh, yes, that's what we're about.
How high do you bounce?
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what are we capable of?
If life is happeningto you, you're screwed.
If life is happening for you,then everything is your oyster
and pearls are everywhere.
And that doesn't mean again, thatthe day or the year that you lost
your child, that you go to a party.
It means that you have abridge that you're on and
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you have some learning to do.
And God said the ever readybattery hit the wall, that bunny,
and it was stop, drop and roll.
It's time now.
We are your ticket gotcalled at the deli counter.
It's time for a new way of life.
I hope you enjoyed the way it wasand you didn't spend your whole past
suffering and waiting for your futurebecause this is your future presently.
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Now you get to go tochapter two or chapter 32.
No one, unless your next chapteris a marriage or, a trip to a
foreign country you want to go to.
If no one actually says I'mlife is fired at us point blank.
Nobody says I'm ready for this diseaseor this death or this failure or this
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bankruptcy or to be fired or to find out,my spouse was having an affair with right.
Nobody is ready for life.
But how quickly can you get involved?
And I don't mean quicklythere's a speed to it.
But are you using your life?
Or, is your life using you?
I
So I just want you to, if youwouldn't mind, talk to us about our
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passions, our purpose, and, becauseI think we were just hitting there.
Let's finish up on that and thenI'll ask you three quickfire
questions to finish off.
How's that
Sure.
Absolutely.
So the way I teach passion isP A S S, pass, I, me, on, O N.
P A S S, I, me, O N.
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When we're passing ourselves on, wecannot not be successful beyond measure.
When we are using who we are to getwhat we need, we cannot succeed.
Even if Monday through Thursday looksgood, Friday, the mind is going to
peek out to say, am I there yet?
And it's going to answer no.
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And it's going to look ateverything in the way as what's
keeping me from being there.
Instead of My passion is, let's justsay mine, Candace Silver's, my passion
is to bring something brand new to thisplanet that the planet is really clear on.
I can't see it.
So it doesn't exist, but like yousaid, God was preparing you for
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what happened with your daughter.
I was born a vegetarian toa very meat eating family.
I was born, with the inability toread until I was, in high school.
I could read, but not really.
I didn't read my firstbook till 10th grade.
I was born with such severedifferences between my sisters and I.
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They were debaters.
I was a dancer.
I played an instrument.
I played the flute.
They didn't do any,everything about my life.
showed me different.
So I really got used to not fittingin, not being seen as, valuable, being
the black sheep, the one that caused,for instance, my sister's death to sit
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at the table every night after dinneruntil they'd try to manipulate me into
eating so they could get up and leavethe table, which I would have done if
I were them, but I couldn't, and thenI would have dry heaves if there was
meat around and then they would saywas dramatic and making it up until.
years and years and years had gone by, soI was heavily involved in getting ready
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to be able to carry the miraculous becauseI was a vegetarian at 14 years old.
I found Kundalini yoga and Yogi Bhajan,who had just come over from India.
So for some reason, I stumbledupon him because his son owned a
restaurant called the Golden Temple,and it was a vegetarian restaurant.
Because in India where theylived, everybody was a vegetarian.
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Exactly.
I stumbled upon this and fell madlyin love and I was born dancing.
I took cotillion and gymnastics andfrom the time I was 3 4 years old,
my dad and Gene Kelly were friends.
So, you know, thank goodness theyallowed me to go into dance classes.
None of my sisters did, but I did.
and so by the time I got to yoga, which,in the early seventies, everybody thought
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I was in a cult because they wore whiteturbans and they, today they teach yoga
in nursery school, but back then doingmeditation and yoga was blasphemous.
And so I've really spent my life.
Standing in the midst of notfitting in an impossible, but so
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connected to who I was like, Icouldn't change my mind about food.
I couldn't change my mind and just read.
I couldn't change my mind and not beinterested in the things I technically
wasn't supposed to be interested in.
I was supposed to be a debaterand do the things my family saw
fit, but how could I debate?
I couldn't even readbecause I couldn't read.
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It trained me to understand being andpeople in a way that if I could read and
fit in, I wouldn't have had a need for.
So you're
I
Yeah.
learned to understand why, whatwas coming at me and why everybody
was always upset with me and whyeverybody was always trying to tell
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me there was something wrong with me.
And I don't learn to identify whatwas coming because it was always, you
know, a slap in the back of the heador cold water from not where I resided.
And not that anyone ever slapped me orthrew cold water at me, but I was always
found myself places I didn't want to be.
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Like in history class, I didn't understandhistory until just a few years ago because
I've never been anywhere other than here.
So I didn't understand time.
I didn't understand 200 years ago.
I saw everything is now.
So it never made time.
It never made sense to me.
So passion was something that was churningin me long before I had an intellectual
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choice or capacity to decide anything.
When we share who we are because we notin the face of everybody saying, this
is crazy or you can't, or that's a cult.
You know, you can't be around whiteturban people in the early seventies
because whatever, whatever they're makingup, you get to a place where standing
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in your belief system, isn't a choice.
Like I want to make money or I want to,but to I ran into people all the time
who were also other, they didn't fit inand I could speak with them quite simply
and they would just melt and join and notjoin me, join themselves, be passionate.
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And so it, it organically took care ofitself, that passion moving forward.
When someone works for a living,they go to work to make money.
They're actually, like it's prostitution.
They're actually trading eight hoursof their day to make money, which is
what a prostitute does, as opposed tonever going anywhere, doing anything
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ever where you're not involved insomething you would do for free.
Now, there are a lot of people on ourplanet that don't have that luxury.
So this isn't for everyone, but inthe evolutionary state of those.
Millions and millions and millions ofus that are lucky enough to, be willing
to risk investing themselves in a worthycause, not just I have to be a janitor
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to make enough money to pay for my family
at something that's, minimalto what we could even afford.
And that's where people like us getto take care of people like that.
We can create the spaceand the investment.
Like I had a charity in India for10 years where we have, or I helped
a lot of kids in Indonesia go toschool or, build water wells in Africa
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because it's something I could do.
when you speak with someone who hasthose rights and those means, and yet
they're lost, the ability to get them toco create with what's important to them.
You always want to havethem start as a hobby.
If they started as a job,it puts too much onus on it.
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It puts too much, I'mnot making money at it.
And so now Mike is involved andI don't feel successful at it.
And how am I going to do, you know,.
Where you say you have.
Eight hours a day for sleep.
Eight hours a day to be of selflessservice in the world to make enough
money to feed yourself and your family.
And eight hours a day off whereyou get to go get your nails done
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or buy groceries or mow your lawn.
Or also this is your hobby time.
And during that third section ofeight hours a day is where you would
make time to develop your hobbies.
Whether that's fishing or bowling orcreating what the next new now will be.
And you'll play within that realm.
Sending your passion forward tosee where you're out of order
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so you can reorder.
So you can grow the depth ofyourself, as that grows and develops.
And it, people start to come to buyyour wares and you start to make
enough money in your hobby world,whether it's painting and you can sell
the paintings or it's teaching andpeople are coming or it's inventing
invention worked or whatever itis in your hobby world where it's
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fishing and you sell the fish,anything, that it stays a hobby until
you start making a living at it.
When you start making a living at it,it starts to move over into the job
world where it is bringing an income,but you never want to move into the
consciousness or the label job or workbecause we have the ideology that job
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is something you do to make money.
So it takes all the fun out ofit as opposed to if you wouldn't
do it for fun and for free, youshouldn't do it to make money.
If you're lucky enough to bein the realm, you and I live
Yes.
And, but, look like we've gonethe hard road to get there.
And lucky, I
that's a lot.
open to it.
A lot of our world right now, especiallyin America is, I say all the time
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we've gone from being Cinderellato being the ugly stepsisters.
Yeah.
We've gone from living on the second floorof our own house that was taken from us
to serve those that took the house and toget to a place where it brings us joy to
serve someone because who cares who we'reserving when you're serving you're in joy.
Oh, yes.
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Yes.
To get to that place wherewe finally get invited.
To the palace, to the ball, and thatslipper fits and that slipper is slippery
and we felt we stayed Cinderella justlong enough to go through World War
II and to go through places where westarted to see what you were doing to me.
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And we started to scream and yell,I, me, mine, it's your fault.
You did it.
I woke up today and I don't wantto work, so give me something.
We forgot to remember that you canonly take a certain amount of someone's
taxes and then there's no money left.
Yes.
That it's about all villagers andwhat they can put into the pot.
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And if all you've got is water,go to the ocean and get some
water and put that in the pot.
But that everybody has toserve that black cauldron.
And when everyone is serving that blackcauldron, and some people put in 80
percent and some people put in half ofa percent, but that everyone is serving
it, then there's enough for everyone.
We have right now, at least in America,is 80 percent of the people not
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serving at Screaming Give Me More, andthere's nothing left in the cauldron.
Well,
just so believe in what you're saying.
I believe it needs to comeback to that community, that
cauldron, everybody contributing.
there is no choice.
Yeah, it is no choice.
It will.
It's just unfortunate that it'sgoing to take a lot of dysfunction
when people can't eat anymore.
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When people don't have time to geton instagram and say mean things
because they have to go out.
And find a way to put food on the table.
That's when Cinderella will be born again.
And how many years we're going to haveto live on the second floor serving.
I don't care, Russia, China, I don'tcare whatever your philosophy is,
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whatever, but how many decades we'regoing to have to serve again to
earn the right to selfless service
That's the key to it.
And the right.
Candice, I'm just aware of the time here.
So let's finish up with acouple of quick questions.
What is the best thing that hashappened to you so far today?
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today,
Today?
Yep.
meeting you
Oh, cool.
That's so lovely.
Thank you.
What is something thatyou are most grateful for?
this moment.
Oh, speaking to me.
And when you have moments in your daywhich may not be going so well, how
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do you pivot out of those moments?
I never have moments in my day that aren'tgoing so well because I'm always involved.
So, you know, it's waves go up andthey come down and if you appreciate
the wave, you don't see up and down,
Perfect.
Perfect answer.
Okay.
Candace, I just have to say whata privilege it has been to meet
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you to connect with you today tohear this beautiful wisdom that
you're able to bring us from yourlife and from your own experiences
and the beautiful healing world.
I recommend that anybody whowants to learn more about you.
Go check out Gaia where there aresome beautiful interviews there on
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the healing that you do and you talkabout that in a bit more depth that
we didn't get around to talking about.
So Candace, all the episode notes willbe in the, all the, sorry, all the
links will be in the episode notesof how people can reach you as well.
Any parting comments, thoughts?
If someone's interested in seeing thedocumentary I have right now, they can
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go on YouTube or on my website and seethat documentary that's already been
Oh, fantastic.
I'll add the link to that and make surepeople are able to just click into that.
If you want to ask my producer, I'mvery happy to have them put a link
to the picture of my father on insideof the orb so that people so they
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can actually see it for themselves.
yes, that would be beautiful as well.
I would love that.
Yeah.
What an incredibleconversation we've had today.
It was so much more than whatI thought it could possibly be.
And I'm a great believer that this iswhat people are needing to be hearing.
And so thank you.
Thank you so much for your time.
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Thank you.