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(00:09):
大家好今天来的是Angus左左
又见面了
又见面了呀
上一次还还不错呀
上一次在上海
应该有两年了吧
对上一次
刚才来的路上看是2022年8月27号
long time ago
没错啊
你也经历了蛮多的
(00:29):
上次你的
其实
上次你的vlog不是叫现在的这个vlog
对啊
现在跟大家说一下
what happened
哈哈
因为之前的话
我拍vlog
主要是拍我和我老婆
的一些日常生活
包括旅游
一些东西
然后后面的话
呃就我也搬去韩国住了一年
(00:51):
然后就发现
有更大的世界等着我去探索
所以我就改了
改成叫做佐哥勇闯地球
而且而且
因为我也30岁了
所以叫左哥
哈哈哈
左左不适合了吗？
左左听起来比较小一点
十几二十岁的感觉哈哈
(01:13):
you know what
我们上次也聊过这个
我到现在我的entire family都还叫我斌斌
哦
是吗斌斌
even though我现在快40了
still斌斌
我就觉得家人没关系
那个当然哈哈哈
是
那现在呃
从那个时候到现在
你经历了真的不少
(01:33):
有两年然后也搬到韩国那边住
对
how was it感觉怎么样
我觉得还不错
对我来说
其实是一个很难得的一个体验
因为呃
最早去韩国是七年前 2017年
然后当时也是去旅游去见我的
呃当时是女朋友
(01:54):
嗯哼
呃但我觉得
旅游见到的韩国
和你实际在那边生活学习肯定不一样
体会到了
完全不一样
一样而且对我来说
去年也是因为我辞职之后
然后去那边
学重回学校
重回校园
去学习一个新的语言
(02:14):
所以我觉得哇
这个体验真的很难得呀
这个你学了一年
感觉你的韩语现在还有谁
你说几句吧
啊哈哈哈
你看谁哦
刚刚抄臭玉米的
哈哈哈
说的是什么
哈喽我说大家好
我是左超啊
(02:35):
你觉得你学了一年
能在韩国跟大部分人沟通吗
嗯我觉得可以
而且像我上一次
就上个月吧
上个月我回去韩国见我老婆
然后我有跟她说
我说呃
阔别一年我再来韩国
(02:56):
然后这个感觉很不一样
因为我二三年去的时候
那时候不会讲韩语
嗯就觉得一切都很陌生
然后我等我再去的话
然后我发现就是很熟悉
一切都变得很熟悉起来
嗯然后呢
也会讲了韩语
我可以自己去做很多
做更多的事情
right就觉得这个观感也是有一些变化
(03:18):
嗯嗯这好的变化吧
我觉得是好的变化
有很多回忆
嗯哈哈
啊我记得我第一次来上海的时候
也是来学中文啊
我跟我妹妹从美国基本上中文为零啊
人民广场
这四个字都基本上认不出的一个过程
然后到复旦大学学了三个月啊
(03:41):
三个月后我们稍微可以沟通
跟大部分路边的一些人可以you know
买一碗面
或是我俩不就可以比较舒服的在中国
没错然后我这一次
然后后面再来中国的时候
就真的是感觉
哦也现在要住在这边
it's different
(04:02):
没错
你觉得哪一些点是比较不一样的
旅游跟真的生活啊
区别在哪
嗯首先我觉得旅游的话
呃会集中在几个点啊
就比如说一些观光地
就是游客经常去的这些地方
但如果你生活在那边的话
(04:23):
你平时是完全不会去这些地方的呀
就举个例子说啊
首尔的明洞
大家都知道是一个就购物的地方呀
但其实本地人是不常去的呀
几乎也完全不去
但是每次有朋友来
如果在韩国他们来找我的话
一定要去
对带他们要去
但我觉得那边你看不到什么
(04:44):
真正的韩国人也是
都是游客
都是观光客对啊
我觉得跟上海是一模一样的
对啊
就啊我朋友
那好吧我们去一个豫园
我们去一个南京东路
没错没错
我平时i hate these places
哈哈哈
是人太多
人太多了
然后每天就是挤来挤去
(05:06):
i never wanna go
可是人家来
好吧那我们走一趟陆家嘴吧
就看一下东方明珠
然后哦OK
到了就旅游一定要去的地方
所以你说你觉得呢
这个这一年体验是
感觉怎么样呢
你what's the difference
(05:28):
就其实还有一点想补充一下
就是因为很多他们去韩国的人
都是因为KPOP
咿呀
是的
但其实我对KPOP就是原来完全不关心
就是不感兴趣这样
所以我看到的韩国
和喜欢KPOP的人看到的韩国
可能也不太一样啊哈
然后首先
对我来说
最大的一点差别是地形上的差别
(05:49):
就是之前我生活在上海
对上海是平的
这个三角洲是很平的
没有什么山啊
但是在首尔百分之六七十都是山
i didn't know that
真的吗真的
你你今天跟我说我也是吓一跳
10你说十朵山that's crazy
真的
首尔周边有十几座比较有名的一些山
(06:10):
啊哈然后我去年一年全都已经爬过
爬完对
我就感觉有
其实有点像香港
我觉得很多人不知道香港全部都是山
是啊你你半小时跑去一个地方
就有很美的一个山谷
没错
可以去徒步
我也是第一次听说
因为我了解的啊
(06:32):
香港都是就是城市
我以为就是一个大城市
对啊然后发现
哦其实很多nature啊
听说soul也是
是的
所以你为什么就选择就每个都要爬呢
就感觉
呃当时其实呃是这样的
就是我住的那边
是离首尔北边一个叫道峰山
道峰区有一个道峰山
(06:53):
嗯然后比较近
呃
然后每天我会在家从阳台看到这座山
从家看的时候觉得它很高
然后也很远耶
然后就想
我也不知道什么理由
想去爬到那个山顶啊
我想去征服它
想在山顶也看看我住的家right
(07:14):
这样这样这样这样的一个感觉
所以我就开始我爬了第一座山
嗯
呃
然后爬了不久
那个其实还好
因为说的山他不是很高
大概就几百米OK
但是路还是比较野一点
就不是像中国这样都是给你修好的
什么水泥台阶啊这样的东西
他都是比较原始一点
(07:35):
呃爬了大概四个小时吧
嗯
然后上下这样子
然后通过这个爬山
我认识了当地一个爬山的一个俱乐部
叫climbing in Korea啊
CIK简称CIK
然后他们就开
启了一个挑战
嗯
叫做啊首尔七七七座山挑战啊
(08:01):
然后就加入他们这个挑战
他们大概每周或者是隔两周
会有一次一起爬山的这样一个活动
呀所以呢
我通过这个活动
呃一方面爬山
另外一方面也认识了很多
不就不同国家
他们也工作生活在首尔啊
这样的一些一些朋友
就感觉呃
(08:22):
一个是运动
另外的话
通过这个运动也认识了很多朋友
也感觉还不错
嗯
我觉得很多来到中国的这些外国人
也是通过这些group
对
才能稍微生存下来
因为基本上你来到这边
外国人也没有那么多
(08:43):
从一个角度是百分比不是很多的
然后你要找到这些人
你要找到合适你的这些人是比较难的
所以我也是通过一些爱好
比如说柔术
攀岩这种
然后突然就可以meet new people
然后特别是像上海
像首尔也是
嗯
(09:04):
路过的这些人比较多
然后你就可以更好觅到这些人
至少我还是蛮喜欢
然后在柔术圈哦你是这个行业的
然后是这个国家的人
包括你
就可以觅到很多比较有趣的一些
啊你你这些人还keep in contact吗
还会对还有欧阳
(09:26):
会每次回去
你回去会不会跟他们再排一次
呃有时间的话会
而且像最近昨天
有那个Strava的一个年度总结
然后还post在我的那个朋友圈
还有那Instagram
我说
有一个给我点赞最多的一个朋友
是来自法国的一位一位黑人朋友
(09:46):
然后就我在Instagram然后tag他呀
然后他跟
我有了回复
我说下次等我去我们可以一起再爬呀
就联系还蛮多的
it's great我觉得这种运动的朋友真的是
我感觉会比较close一点
因为在特别是这种大城市
你在比如说在上海
就感觉朋友没有那么多
(10:07):
然后也没有很多机会可以更close
对啊你有一些similar的爱好会好很多
是
那你在韩国这些
还有什么一些别的group吗
嗯因为就是除了爬山以外
我之前还一直在跑步嘛
嗯所以我在韩国之后
也去寻找当地的一些跑团
Rony club
呃有一家跑团
(10:29):
有有一个跑团在收入很有名
嗯其实我没有去之前
已经从我老婆那边也听说过
叫PRC OK private road running club
OK
哈然后呃也是通过Instagram
然后给他们
给他们发私信我说
呃你们下次什么有有有活动
可不可以加入你们这样参加
(10:49):
当然我还那时候还不会韩语
然后发的是英文啊哈
他们非常欢迎
来自中国也非常欢迎
然后就跟他们一起跑了
呃首尔市中心视听附近的一条路
然后他们是环景福宫
你知道景福宫
类似于就是北京的故宫这样啊
(11:12):
但是要小很多
然后他们就从室町这边出发
然后环景福宫一圈
然后这样回来
第一次跟他们一起跑
呃
感觉体验上
和上海的一些running club
体验还蛮不同的呃
区别在哪
嗯
首先有一点就是
(11:33):
我觉得他们配速会快很多
哈哈哈
他们跑团的配速
平均配速比上海这边要快很多
OK
大概就是5
分多这样的样子
然后在跑的时候很有秩序
我觉得还有一点是很有秩序耶
嗯这个秩序体现在哪一方面
一方面是他们行进的路程中
(11:56):
比如说遇到窄路
你需要两人一对啊
他们真的是两人一对呀
很遵守这个规则
然后在行进的过程中
遇到对象过来的这个行人
嗯
在开头的两位会聚首
示意有新人要注意呀
然后新人来的时候会说不好意思啊
(12:19):
就垂缩哈密达
然后过去了之后再说
谢谢康斯哈密达他们
这个哇
我感觉就有点就是震撼的感觉
我觉得是一个礼貌的一个
对对对
yeah i like it
是嗯在喂hahaha
that's so funny
(12:40):
因为我也感觉到上海的这些running club
pushes in a running club
我一直觉得上海的running club
they're dating clubs
let's be real okay
我真的觉得上海就是it's just to be social
and it's for girls and boys to meet
这个这个很man
完全不是it's nice
(13:02):
只是一个side effect的一个东西
所以这边真的就是很熟手
他们主要不是为了跑步而跑步
是为了后面我们可以去喝酒吃汉堡
对whatever
就
我觉得这些running club的人
很多都不是真的喜欢跑步的
哈哈哈
这个我倒不是很清楚啊
(13:23):
啊你在上海没有running club吗
啊有
也有跟很多一起跑
今年在上海也是跑了很多
嗯然后就最大差别还是我刚才说的
速度比较慢嘛
然后跑的过程中可以就是聊天这样呀
你可是也有跑快的吧
也跑快了yeah
我觉得我朋友Calve上的时候
(13:44):
他是dark runners第二档
我最近也跟他们一起也跑
我觉得dark runners还有蛮多快的
一些朋友
没错然后他们也是认真在那边训练
准备备赛吗
没错所以我也想说
就是呃
其实Dr drunders和PRC他们是互相认识的
哦是吧
真的i didn't know that
所以哈哈
所以我觉得Dr还是真的
(14:07):
有几个人是真的很爱跑步的
没错
哎呀那你觉得嗯
上海这群人跑去maybe别的国家
他们应该expect什么呢
就如果你是一个跑步团的这边
然后在那边你应该准备一些
心理上准备一些什么
(14:27):
嗯我觉得也不太需要准备什么东西
因为呃
首先就说起跑步这一块的话
呃刚才你说的这个大Runner
嗯大Runner
和说的PRC
然后其实还有包括呃
美国的
呃是纽约还是哪里的
呃
(14:48):
bridge bridge
the gap还有什么
OK然后还有东京的AFE
就很多国家的这个跑团都认识
他们互相都有联系的
i see i see
然后也是
就是很纯粹
嗯哼
啊比如说这边有首尔马拉松呀
那么可能其他国家的人一起过来
来首尔跑步
那我们前几天会有一些跑步的活动啊
(15:10):
哈
就大家可以互相认识
这个认识也是就是了解不同的文化
right对
是非常好的一个途径
yeah
然后在跑比赛当天
然后也会就互相加油
嗯我们会提前通知
在多少公里有这样的一个加
油站go对
大家过去的话都会给你加油
(15:33):
都是英文吗
嗯英文可以啊
好
那如果
因为其实关于跑步的英文也还不多了
其实对吧
耶哈哈
然后如果不会英文的话
呃比如说PRC他们
其实有几位是会讲中文的
oh great that's what i wanted to know
有一位有一位女生
然后她跟我说
(15:54):
她之前在上海的复旦大学有读书cool
yeah
非常酷呀
就然后他现在就啊一直住在瘦
所以他可以做这个桥梁对对对
我也觉得这有这种人就是特别重要
是的因为比如说你在这边
你看到很多柔术馆
(16:14):
他们90%都是外国人
可是他们还是需要一两个
可以说叫community manager
嗯哼然后必须要会中文
必须要
就是你可以把大家就是bring together yeah
因为没有的话
那然后这个只会越来越少人
对啊对啊
所以你可以永远都欢迎不一样的国家
(16:34):
不一样文化的人
还是很重要的
是的
所以你觉得你到售如果你没有韩语
你能跟这些
嗯running club或是
当然都可以沟通
当然没问题
主要就是用英文
因为像我的话也是大概三个过程嗯
第一个过程是纯英文呀
(16:57):
因为那时候完全不会韩语嗯
然后后面知道有会讲中文的话
会英文加中文
嗯哼
然后再往后我的韩语开始学习
然后不讲中文
我讲韩文和英文
哈哈哈然后再往后面的话
哦我英文也不讲
我可以直接韩语跟他们大概讲一下
that's great你觉得这个过程需要多久
(17:19):
呃
其实基础的韩语
就你不考虑这个什么晋语啊
平语这样
他们会有一个这个
这种不同的尊尊敬体系
这个我知道
这个很复杂的
就是你想表表达你的意思的话
还是比较容易的
大概学4个月左右啊
(17:39):
差不多可以讲
然后他们也能理解
就是也不会在乎你是不是用了敬语
没有尊敬这样的感觉
无所谓我知道你什么意思
没关系
然后这些比较polite的韩语需要多久
嗯
其实我现在也还在继续在学
(18:01):
不过因为我觉得还是对还是不足啊
而且包括现在我回来
我去年回来上海入职的也是韩国公司
虽然我们公司不要求你会韩语
我们公司英文沟通
但如果你会韩语当然更好
因为毕竟领导层都是韩国人
对
所以你觉得这个就需要花a lot more time
(18:21):
对我觉得一直要学
包括其实也像中文一样
不是每年会有一些新的
什么网络用语什么的
韩国也是一样
每年会有一些新的词
他们自己造出来的字呀
很有意思
我也觉得
我最近我都感觉到很多年轻人
我是不能跟他们沟通的
(18:41):
哈哈就是因为网上的一些词对
然后他们自己发明的like
普通话我OK
然后normal的沟通也应该OK
可是我感觉你
我说的普通话跟你说的完全两码
what
然后就听他们这样子沟通
有我
有的时候这些00后i'm lost就completely lost
(19:04):
嗯感觉他们的世界跟我的世界
就是有太大的代沟这种
是的
那你会推荐
比如说我在中国就先说中文吧
我应该怎么办
就是完全不跟他们沟通也是不可能的
嗯
这个我觉得要看你会有没有一个
(19:26):
就是接受新鲜事物的一个想法
嗯但其实对我来说
呃我在互联网方面
我觉得我是一个老人呀
就是我在互联网
我不愿意接受一些什么太新的东西呀
什么抖音什么
我其实对
我也不喜欢这种什么短视频
(19:47):
所以这些东西
我有的时候就觉得他们聊着一些
不管是话题或是他们的
就语言方面我就很lost
就有的时候我很难跟他们
我也是这样
选一个you're not even that
oh you're not even that
对我来说也这样
啊哈哈哈
别说你了
(20:07):
哈哈哈
那你不会觉得
就这沙里就很分裂了吗
就你
以前我觉得我可以跟年纪比我大很多
跟比我小很多的人都能沟通
嗯哼然后现在我要考虑到代购
就每一个
都不一样
对00后90后吧
(20:29):
都不一样了现在
然后就这个沟通的门槛变越来越高
对更不要说你现在就是年龄有问题
然后你的地区OK
我是美国
然后跟中国又有一个分裂
就你能沟通的就变现在变得越来越小
对
II don't know what to do
(20:50):
你有没有想过这个就是
其实我觉得就是现在大家在说一个词
叫信息减防呀
你有知道这个意思吗
我听说过
就虽然是说互联网啊
大家想要互联
但其实现在是每个人有自己的信息
建房你就在自己的建房里面
然后不会去了解到别人的
(21:11):
嗯哼他们每天看的每天想的呀
不会去了解到
所以你觉得怎么破开这个解放呢
这个我觉得还蛮难的
嗯因为你会想吗还是你觉得这样子
就这就是我的舒适区
我就活在这边也不错了
我会去想了解的呀
我也是我会去想了解可是怎么跳出呢
(21:34):
你觉得
嗯
我觉得还是要多接触人
先接触到人的话应该会有解决的
好解决的好办法吧
我我尽量
就是用这个电台
或是用我的一些对你这个很好的办法
然后找一些人拉过来然后跟他们聊
(21:55):
因为有一些人真的跟我想法就totally
totally different
然后你在这边你是人吗哈哈
what what's going on
所以有的时候我们沟通的时候
我就在那边
就像完全不一样的世界
跟更想不出
你知道我们都活在上海
(22:17):
可是你的体验跟我的体验不一样
对然后你跑去搜应该更不一样
对所以what are the big differences
你觉得在上海跟在
啊韩国在首尔
你觉得最大的一些区别在哪儿
嗯
(22:38):
因为都是大城市
呃还有个
还有个感受是
我觉得其实对比来讲就是soar
他的外国人占比会更高一些
都不管是生活在那边还是观光客
嗯他外国人的占比会更多一些
所以显得会比较国际化一点
(23:00):
嗯所以在那边生活的话
你作为一个外国人就
虽然虽然中国人和他们长得差不多
不不会太有这种就是
嗯就怎么说
就比如说
一个外国人在中国的话
可能还是会有一点引人注目的感觉
(23:20):
啊但
是你在soar的话
不会太有引人注目的感觉
感觉是这样的
一个就你比较容易去融入
嗯哼你不是一个特别的存在
对呀
这样的感觉
可是你也是长一个亚洲脸
对他们会不会第一
第一反应就是你会韩语
哈哈哈呃
(23:42):
这个我老婆跟我说
我说韩语第一句话的话
对方就能听出来我不是
我不是韩国人耶
就比如我只说你好
安妮啊see you啊
我觉得
我已经说的很接近他们韩国人的发音
对但是我老婆说
韩国人只要一听这一句话
就知道你不是韩国人那样
哈哈哈啊
(24:03):
因为我前几天在跟朋友聊天
然后他说他也有个
我们也有个韩国朋友
嗯哼
我们坐在一个新疆餐厅
服务员就一直对着他说中文
啊因为他是中国人
因为他脸就感觉是亚洲人
然后别的都是外国人
(24:24):
所以他们就一直对这个亚洲脸说中文
然后他就在那边蒙了就听不懂
我完全听不懂
就在那边一直在摇头
可是因为我也感受到
我一来中国的时候
他们第一反应就是
你长得这个中国脸啊
肯定会中文啊
然后我再念no
(24:44):
一点都听不懂
一句都听不懂
哈哈然后就
他们就想象不到不了你是no Chinese
对啊
然后我不知道在韩国看到你
第一反应就是why
Don't you speak
的那种感觉没有
这个好像没有
嗯这种感觉没有了
因为我去年在那边
其实是以学生的身份呀
(25:05):
就一直在每天去学校上语言课
这样的感觉
所以以学生身份来讲的
话我觉得还是蛮容易融入的
嗯nice
呃
因为都比较多是国外过来在学韩语的
对对
像我们老师是就是韩国人
嗯然后他面对的学生也是
(25:26):
虽然大部分还是来自中国了
但是其他各国家里都有啊
所以我觉得作为学生这个角色
去融入一个新的国家
确实是一个很快捷
很便捷的一个方式
就觉得没有太多的门槛对于我来讲
而且我表面是一个学生
然后背后还有韩国的老婆
(25:47):
所以我觉得好像没有太大的
这个融入的过程
很快就融入了耶
可是你不觉得
因为我在这边的体验就是我很快能
表面的融入
可是我觉得中国还是很排斥你
如果不是中国人
(26:08):
还是很会有一个门槛的
韩国我听说更有
因为我也感觉到我来到这边
一开始的时候哦就很easy进来了
可是是有一个天花板的
对对
就中国人还是觉得no你不是我们的
这个的话一定会有呀
(26:31):
呃就像你说的你了解到的
确实韩国人他们很喜欢自己抱团呀
如果你是外国人的话
他们核心的圈子你肯定是融入不了的
嗯但是就你日常生活而言的话
你去融入
我觉得这个门槛还是比较低的呀
就是他门槛比较低
当然天花板相对的也是比较低一点
(26:53):
对呀
是这样的感觉
你觉得这个天花板是能破的吗
嗯
就其实我不太了解
但是我接触到了一些
比如说在韩国生活的中国人呀
呃就生活很多年的
我感觉他们是没有融入啊因为
(27:13):
我不知道首
先他们是想融入还是不想融入
that's what i want to know
对吧这是第一点
对就是因为看到他们的一个现状呢
就是还是在和当地的中国人一起去玩
这样子但是我的话呢
我是想和当地的人呀
呃当地的中国人当然也有
(27:34):
当然当地的韩国人或者其他国家的人
我是想去了解他们的right
所以
我是有这样一个主动去融入的心理呀
那像对其他的这个在韩的中国人
他们有没有起初的这样一个动机
和心理我不了解
但看到的现象是
他们还是比较喜欢自己在一起这样
(27:54):
嗯啊艾米
你看上海你也可以感觉到
对就是法国人全部都在一起
然后就大家都还是分的
说在一起也是在一起
可是也是到最后
你的close friends
基本上都是你的国家的人
或者你的地区的人
对啊你跑去美国的一些学校
(28:17):
你看到那些留学的中国人
全部都是抱团的印度人
全部都是在一起的
都因为那是你的舒适区嘛
对你就觉得哦
我跟他们的沟通的门槛就是0
我还是可以跟他们说继续说中文
我有的时候觉得这是不对的
就你跑去一个新的国家
(28:38):
你也是你应该多享受这个国家的
当地的一些文化
对我是这样的想法
都不是这样做
然后我来到这边
我现在大部分朋友
也都是中国这边的朋友
而不是外美国的
或是美就比较少
(28:59):
我的感觉就是
我想融入到这边的一些一个
可是我还是感觉到
他们会给你一个天花板就
觉得你不是我们的
然后这个天花板就很难破
至少在中国
我觉得真的觉得很难破啊
最简单的就是
我在美国
很多朋友都会说
this is my Chinese friend Arthur
(29:20):
这是我中国朋友art
哈哈哈no problem
小的时候我
我没有那么在意
来到这边的时候哦
这是我美国朋友Arthur啊
就你还是把你排到外面去啊
就你为什么要加这是我美国朋友
为什么我为什么不支持你朋友呢
嗯
(29:41):
这首先呃
我想说就是我和你的想法是一样的
比较想去融入或者体验嗯
这个不同的国家不同的种族的文化呀
呃但像你后面说这种
比较刻意的去强调哪里来的这种
我好像还没有体验到啊
还没有体会到
(30:02):
他们不会说这是我中国朋友
还应该是
对这个好像不会啊
嗯
但可能虽然没有说
但是大家能感觉到right
那我我第二个话题就是你
如果我没有直接说出来对
可是你也感觉到
嗯
(30:23):
我给你我的贴吧
我在中国
有的时候我的上海朋友会不maybe
自然而然换成上海话
啊哈
然后我我的感受就是
你不想让我听到你说的
(30:43):
或是你不想让我全部了解
会有你就上话
啊哈
然后我就觉得why
你知道这个东西是我听不懂的
我已经站在这边
我没认哈哈
可是你就又switched
有礼貌的一些朋友会转回你说普通话
嗯
but
(31:05):
有的时候就会switch
然后就你为什么这样
就就感觉你是
我不知道你是不是故意的
有一些人我觉得
确实是故意的
嗯哼but
就这个天花板却硬放在你面前
you're done你
这个是你的新的门槛
可是我不让你进
(31:25):
有一点annoy对我来说
明白了
那通过你说的这个点也可以了解到
打破这个天花板有一个方法
就是语言
yeah for sure
如果你完全掌握对方的语言
包括上海话也好
英文也好
韩文也好
你语言没有这个问题的话
天花板会上升很多
(31:46):
没错你觉得你因为比较会啊韩语
我没有很会其实
可是你比普通人会一点
那你可能就天花板就一直会往上
还有一点就
语言只是第一步
我觉得就是第一个台阶
嗯
是你踏向更高天花板的第一个台阶
那当然后面还有
你是否去了解过他们的一些文化背景
(32:10):
他们的历史啊
他们现在流行的文化
或者是当然
如果你们有共同的兴趣爱好
这也是一个台阶
嗯让你的天花板更高一点
对呀所以我觉得
嗯如果你想去融入的话
呃你是需要主动去做很多事情的呀
当然对方的善意
(32:31):
那个是比较客观的一个原因是不是
所以你觉得韩国还是偏难
嗯
首先对方的善意
我觉得是有
嗯这个善意的占比很大
really就是对方其实是欢迎的
啊
那么所以的话
就是你主观的问题呀
(32:51):
你是否有去努力学习right
或者想要去了解
其实我最近我看了很多
就是关于呃
韩国的历史
嗯
包括就是近代的这个独立历史也好
然后还有就是呃
之前的朝鲜王朝
这些我有去专门去看很多
你觉得我会有帮助吗
(33:13):
我觉得蛮有意思的其实
interesting
我从来不会聊这些东西
所以我就比较不会去学习这些东西
我平时聊的就是攀岩
对
我的兴趣爱好对
这也是一个方法
啊呀
然后我呢
在这个领域跟人本地人沟通会好很多
(33:33):
对就感觉我会close一点
对
可是我个人还是感觉到在
在中国
有很多人会把门槛就是放在那边
就是故意不让你进我这个圈子
嗯
(33:54):
就不知道索尔那边你有没有这种感受
嗯还是maybe你的老
因为有一个韩国的一个老婆
会有一个通道
我觉得这也是一个通道
嗯然后另外我刚才考虑说这可能也
呃是时代变化的一个问题吧
(34:16):
interesting okay
因为中国就是很久以前
大家也是比较邻里之间
互相关系都很好
这样但是随着社会发展
包括城市化的一些进展
像我们从其他地方来到上海耶
我们现在住的邻居是谁我也不知道耶
(34:37):
完全也不会去认识
就大家都是陌生人这样子
所以有这个时代发展的一个背景在
嗯啊也会造成这样的一个隔阂
或者是一个圈子的一个存在
嗯但也不能说这个是好还是不好
我觉得
啊interesting
(34:58):
嗯对
我觉得也有双方面的
对啊
啊
你保持一个圈子也是很重要
你让谁进来
让应该是有一点门槛的
对
可是我有的时候觉得
maybe是礼貌上面
我就感觉很i don't know upset
(35:18):
就是我也想进啊
然后我也出了我的这个诚意
我想在这个圈子
no you're on the outside
这种感觉我偶尔会遇到
然后会有一点upset
明白
嗯那我换个话题你觉得在韩国啊
(35:40):
吃应该是问题不大
哈哈
这个我觉得可以聊的还蛮多的
够会
就是其实来讲
我在韩国一年我是有瘦一些
就是因为不习惯吗
也不是不习惯啊
分两种一种是学校的食堂餐
另外的话
是在外面和家人朋友一起吃的
(36:02):
这种韩餐
呃首先对比中国来讲的话
最大差别就是种类会比较少一些
种类少很多
我在那边天天想吃火锅羊肉串什么
虽然也有也有但大概两倍贵的价格
对
然后学校餐的话
(36:22):
每天虽然也在变一些花样
但我感觉差异都不大嗯
呃
就包括说肉也好都有
蔬菜也都有但我觉得差别还是不大
他们烹饪的方式相对来说
还是比较少一些
嗯
要么就是各种酱加在里面煮或者炒
(36:44):
嗯嗯
这是一个学校餐另外的话
在校外和家人朋友吃的
这一边的话
我觉得种类我老婆觉得可能很多
但是每次她问我想吃什么
我觉得我说不出来
很多我觉得还是就那几种
(37:05):
烤肉
然后什么部队火锅然后冷面什么的
我觉得种类很少所以我很难选
你觉得你在那边最最想吃的是哪一个
你说羊肉串跟火锅
如果你韩餐吗
(37:25):
呃不中餐
中餐就
如果你很想家你会真的craving
什么东西
因为我北方人
嗯其实我最想吃的是面呀
当然是北方的面啊
然后那边我记得是有一家炒面或汤面
都可以我prefer炒面啊
干的有
(37:46):
有一个就是兰州的这样一个面馆
嗯然后里面会有炒面
如果我想吃的话我会去
嗯然后另外我会自己做
哈哈哈
这也是一个方法
就在那边
其实呃还做饭的次数还蛮多的
嗯就对比在上海生活的时候
因为上海又便宜又方便
(38:07):
也不会想去自己做在那边的话
因为吃不到
然后我就自己去买
去超市买
然后自己在家做啊
包括炒面我也自己做一下
也觉得嗯还不错
我第一年在中国
我十几年前
我很想家的时候
(38:27):
我会想吃苹果泥
嗯啊apple sauce
这个是我从小就爱的一个东西
然后我会去进口超市
一罐apple sauce
我记得那个时候35-40块钱这一罐
在美国一块一刀
哈哈然后在这边卖5刀
(38:48):
6I was like what
然后第一反应就是我自己来
第一反应就是苹果泥也就那几样东西
放进去你就自己做吧
然后就买出去
买了几个烂比较烂的苹果
然后打碎煮一下
放一点肉桂
我就可以OK了
(39:08):
可以吃了
可是那个时候我就吓一跳
我说我那么想家
我也没有花6倍的价格
那么想家就说不过去
那个时候
所以我也感觉到
我很多在这边的外国朋友
他们会更擅长自己做饭
(39:28):
对
因为你真的想家的时候
你去我去一个汉堡店
或者去一个地
有的时候你那个味道就是不对
就他们还是有一点本地话的对
把你的东西改良了
所以你吃到的
你就感觉
好像也没有hit到我的那个点
嗯哼所以我我还是自己做
吧我自己学
(39:50):
所以我完全理解你在家里
嗯
然后你你学会自己做你想要吃的东西
然后很推荐我那些朋友跑去别的国家
比较self sufficient
你自己能做你想吃的东西会舒服很多
(40:12):
对yeah
而且你去做自己想吃的东西
这个过程也是快乐的
你看然后你还可以分享给那边的人
说提出我们是这样做的
而不是你的那个什么快餐店
对it's terrible
你为什么在吃这个汉堡
it's so gross
可是他们就觉得
哦这个汉堡就是应该这个味道
(40:34):
有时候我就what are you doing
那吃的方面
你觉得比较单一我也是同意的
嗯
我一直觉得韩国菜就那几个就那几个
味道
是
你瞅
要么辣酱要么是大酱
哈哈哈
你的老婆有没有解释给你
(40:55):
她为什么感觉很丰富很多多样
嗯
就其实我也可以说出来就是呃
在韩国虽然国土比较小
但他们不同的城市
也会有一些独特的饮食存在
比如说
呃如果吃拌饭
(41:16):
那么最有名的是泉州拌饭
OK
在南部一点的城市
然后炒鸡在首尔东北边有个叫春川啊
这边的炒鸡非常有名
然后还有一些地方
呃
议政府市
那边是部队火锅的一个发源地
所以就是他们这个
(41:38):
每个饮食都有一个他们所谓最原本
最正宗的一个地方
你不觉得中国也有吗
对中国也是啊
所以他们觉得就是还是蛮多的
可是就我感觉就是那几个酱料
然后那几个发酵方式
只是用的东西稍微不一样一点
(41:59):
可是味道
都是一样的
对差不多
哎我不understand
就是有一些人跟我说
他们特别喜欢韩国料理
yeah韩国料理is great
我很喜欢烤肉
嗯我也一样
but
every day你一直吃这个味道
有的时候我感觉are you sure
这个真的有不一样吗
你真的吃出来不一样吗
(42:21):
i'm not sure
因为我我感觉我吃不出来
what do you think
我也觉得
就是烤肉的话
要么是肉的种类不同
要么是肉的部位不同
那么蘸料的话
还是差不多的
就那几个
对啊
会不会觉得在中国你被宠坏了
(42:41):
就有那么多不一样的美食
有可能我记得很清楚
就是我去年12月刚回上海的时候
然后我开始吃火锅
然后吃各种省的菜
我说中国有三十几个省
如果每天吃一个省的菜
我可以吃一个月月
哈哈哈great right
太夸张了
yeah
(43:02):
就有的时候
我感觉这边真的把我宠坏了
就你随时你要找什么东西都能吃到
对啊
amazing就永远都有新的东西出来
incredible中国真的就地区那么大
然后每个地方确实就是不一样
是的
有的时候
我吃不出重庆跟成都的火锅的区别
(43:26):
可是有一些人吃出来
maybe i can whatever
可是基本上每个地区都有比较特色
对比较特色
没错
所以有的时候我就
人家说中餐
我喜欢吃中餐
我说你can't say that哈哈哈
哟
太多了
对呀太多了
你说韩国料理II
(43:47):
get it
大概就长得那个样子哈
你说日料
我稍微也蛮蛮丰富的
可是日料我可以understand
大概你是什么意思
你中餐基本上就是all of this
太多了就太多了
然后很多中国人就会说我喜欢吃西餐
(44:07):
哈哈
也是很多
我就觉得你你说的太太太广了
太泛泛了呀
啊那还有什么一些cultural的不一样吗
你感觉到
嗯
我特别想聊一下就是这个礼貌方面的
(44:28):
就是高低的这个东西
哦礼貌方面啊确实
呃我觉得受这个影响
我有一个很大的改变
就是我现在特别喜欢点头
就很像韩国人就喜欢这样点头一下
就他们也是表示尊敬的方式
就包括呃
你去一个便利店
(44:50):
刚进去收银员会会给你打招呼
然后也会点头
然后买好东西你走之后也会
就是点头致意一下我觉得
呃这个这个礼貌
我觉得我们真的还是可以学习一下
嗯
就包括陌生人之间在街上啊
(45:12):
当然
但是这个和北美的那种还不太一样
我觉得北美的话直接会跟你问好呀
但他们的话就是点到为止
我就点头示意一下就好
嗯我觉得这个还很微妙
你觉得是可学的
因为这边比较少这样做对吧
(45:33):
嗯对我觉得
呃给你感受是什么呢
就是好像他有看到我的存在
嗯他有认可我的存在呀
然后展示了他的善意
向我展示了他的善意
嗯这样子
但是在中国的话
更多的大家可能就是我看不到你
(45:55):
我无视你
这样一个感觉
就是会很远
嗯
可能一个很小的一个动作
就会让人觉得很近这样的一个感觉
我哎呀我说到我一开始
来上海的时候
我记得最清楚的时候是
我在找人民广场
然后我可能在南京路附近吧
(46:19):
可是我在找人民广场
然后我进了一个便利店
便利店的这个老叔叔老阿姨我也忘了
就说往那边走啊
一句话就我说
我问人民广场
就这样
也没有
具体没有跟我说
(46:40):
那我就下一个一模一样的动作
嗯哈哈哈
我就感觉你就告诉我几条路吧
至少你给我一个something
什么都没有就嗯嗯嗯那边
我就很i didn't know how to feel
那个时候我就感觉如果是我
(47:01):
很冷漠
对很冷漠
就感觉你很不欢迎我
你就告诉我几条路
你往那边走两条
那边走几条something
可是你什么都不给我
你就给我一个
一个方向你就
哇我就
那个时候我真的很崩溃
我就感觉到自己
(47:22):
你这我感觉没有被尊重到
因为我是想我很礼貌的问你人民广场
对然后你就是呃
话都没有跟我说的那种感觉
所以我很understand你这种
不只是点了一个头
至少给你打了个招呼
(47:43):
there's something就可以拉近距离
对我还是蛮喜欢的
我也是
我感觉到至少日本
其实泰国特别热
热情就这种
几个地方就感觉到哦
你还是care到我的对
在这边我有的时候感觉就没有
可能是人太多
or something的这种感觉
就是you don't care why it's very
(48:08):
对我来说是比较拉远距离对
而不是拉近距离对啊
方向就是错的
一个是我推开你的感觉
另外一个是我主动把你拉过来
然后尊重你一点
对right
i think it's important
可是这个高低的你还没有说到
就是你是哥吗
(48:29):
欧巴这种的
i don't understand这个这个
这种关系你能解释一下吗
这个
你能understand吗
我可以OK
这个其实我觉得有一点难啊
就包括你叫怎么称呼你的朋友
首先的话
他们自我介绍的时候喜欢
喜欢
(48:50):
就是说自己的年龄就是哪一年生的
这样容易确认你是哥还是弟
你是姐还是妹
对然后在韩语里面的话
男生叫的哥和女生叫的哥是不一样的
包括男生叫的姐和女生叫的姐
也是不一样的
OK就完全不一样的单词
(49:11):
说一下
呃男生叫姐是Luna OK
女生叫姐是欧尼
欧尼okay
女生叫哥是欧巴
呃
男生叫哥是hum
就有点像中文的凶啊
所以完全不一样
然后另外如果你是和朋友在一起
(49:32):
第一次和朋友在一起的话
如果是你第一次见的朋友
你会叫他们什么什么名字
加西啊就有点像日语什么什么加sun
对
然后稍微亲近一点的话可以去掉名
叫某夕
嗯
左西这样左西
(49:52):
哎
我理解对
如果再亲近一点的话
姓和西也不要了
可以叫名字
比如说我叫左朝
这个朝朝
对可以直接叫朝
他们会有这样一个递进的一个感觉呀
随着你们亲密度
呃也可以
但一般这样跳的话
(50:13):
是对方主动可以说的
嗯就说你可以直接叫我什么什么
这样子呀
他觉得我们已经很关系很好
我们很亲近了
你可以直接叫我什么什么啊
也不用叫我哥或什么
你记得叫我名字好
这样也可以的
你觉得年轻人会比较
还是很尊重这个吗
还是开始离开
(50:34):
还是在做
还是在做对
why就我很喜欢这种
就是你的传统还在保留
因为我觉得很多传统
特别是美国越来越少
这个淡的很快
可是有一些地方
比说意大利
我觉得意大利很多
那些老意大利的一些传统
(50:57):
就还保持了很久
年轻人也还是觉得
这个就应该是这样做
嗯可是有一些国家
我主要说的是我看到美国
就感觉很多传统就根本就不存在
叫i don't need this
我能减少就减少
能直接就直接
所以我感觉到特别是在美国
(51:19):
没有什么传统
那那然后有一些国家
比如说韩国
比如说日本
他们年轻人还是在做
老一辈在做着
更老一辈在做
就是传的很深
为什么韩国能做得出来这样的
就韩国这种尊卑的这种观念的话
(51:41):
我觉得有点根深蒂固
嗯
就是包括最早他们受儒学影响
当然也不是说儒学不好
儒学有他很好的一面
就觉得就我认为
在他们看来就这个长幼是
(52:02):
亘古不变的
嗯
就是你比我年长的话
我肯定是要尊敬你这样
他们没有觉得这个是不好的东西
嗯哼他们觉得是正常的
也不也不是好的东西
就正常的东西
就应该是要流传下去
这样一个感觉我觉得
嗯
但是我这样认为我
我不知道他们具体怎么样认为
(52:24):
包括可能每个人认为不一样
我记得我小的时候叫老师永远都
是Mister然后他的姓名
嗯哼Mister Robinson
Mister whatever
然后我看到现在
有特别是在YouTube上
你就会看到一些小孩直接叫first name啊
(52:46):
就hey look
然后就
我感觉到美国很很喜欢push这个boundary
就大部分
我们从小我也以为这个一直不会变的
嗯哼
可是it's changing
就是感觉到这些年轻人更想看
这个极端到底在哪
(53:08):
这个边缘到底在哪
我能叫吗
啊他们想去试探这个边
我觉得美国很喜欢这样
就是what's up Luke
what's up Mr呃
就不会叫Mr Robin
只会叫直接就叫first name
然后就这个很不礼貌诶
可是我觉得美国就没有这个
(53:29):
就没有这个rule
就是说这个是必须要的
我小的时候我觉得是有的
嗯
我一定不会叫我老师的first name
一定不会
就感觉这个是一个尊重
对
可是新一代好像就they don't care so much
他们没有这个骨子里面
觉得这个是必须要做的
(53:50):
明白
and i don't understand这个
这个是哪里来的
为什么他们没有
觉得这个是很重要的一个东西
可是你像你说的就在韩国
我觉得在日本也是
就这个在骨子里面的就是的
对是的
就why这次有没有想过
(54:11):
我有想
就是可能我们认为这个是礼貌嗯
但是在一些就现在的小孩子
他们可能认为
他们是在打破一个权威呀
他们是更具有挑战性的
这样一个感觉
就可能我们认为的这个
(54:32):
同样的一个东西
定义已经不一样
了嗯
我们定义他是礼貌是传统呀
他们定义的是封建是权威啊
你在压制我
对所以我们还是遵守
我们认为好的东西
但他们已经认为这个是过时的啊
需要去打破的
(54:53):
需要去挑战的
所以我觉得还是认知的不一样
make sense
因为我觉得确实如果你去看maybe
他们就觉得现在的社会很不尊重他们
所以那我为什么要尊重这个社会
对然后可能比较好的一些地方
(55:14):
可能就觉得
哇我们现在过得蛮好的
那为什么要打破
anything就继续这样子下去吧
啊
我感觉到以前的意大利真的是他们的
比如说做面的方式
他们就很死板
就this is the only way to do it的那种感觉
and it's delicious
确实this is the best我为什么要改变
(55:36):
right然后就i understand
就是有一些东西传下来
因为已经有那么长的一个历史
都一直这样做
and that's maybe the best way就一直这样做
no problem嗯哼
可是我一直感觉到
美国就是不是这种国家
就let's see let's see
if i can change it make it make it different
(55:58):
make it better不一定better
but就一直有那种心态
像challenge一下我
到现在我在中国
我有的时候也有
我就想看到底你的你的底线在哪
哈哈
然后很多中国人就很反感我这样
可是我可能脸皮厚
(56:19):
i don't really care
因为其实像美国来讲的话
因为他也是一个文化的熔炉呀
不断有新
的移民
各个国家不同文化背景的移民
嗯
进来就一定会带来很多新的东西
素的话
毕竟他们主要的国民
还是就是他们所谓的韩民族
(56:40):
嗯这样一个构成
但是美国的话
用白人还是算60%
但也是多很多不同国家来的
包括创普
他们不是德裔吗
对德国过来
这样子
所以我觉得他和这个国家
国家的一个文化背景还是有一点影响
(57:03):
在
你你怎么形容韩国的国家的人民
你会用几个词
从我的角度保守
保守是一个
但我刚才想说
就我想说是其实不幸
OK
(57:24):
就我觉得他们不是很幸运的
嗯interesting悲观吗
我是觉得有点悲观
嗯
呃这个怎么讲
就从首先
首先从地理方面来讲
他们的这个位置
呃not great
对yeah not great
真的不好
而且左右上啊
(57:47):
都是演都是制衡的强国
嗯哈哈
呃
所以我觉得这个民族还是有点不幸
嗯
但是我觉得另外一方面
虽然第一个词我给的是不幸
但第二个词是坚坚毅坚忍
(58:08):
就他们没有这个
被步行压倒
嗯
还是一直在
所谓的反抗也好
包括最近他们也是在呀抗议
是的
所以我觉得
虽然在这样一个很大的压力
和很大的一个不幸之下
他们还是在在反抗的
(58:28):
嗯
在美国的韩国人我觉得是很很proud
就我是韩国人
很喜欢我是韩国人这个feeling II
我我觉得没有问题
因为我在觉得
在美国的中国人都没有这么proud
哦
可是
美国的韩国人真的就是Koreans are the best
(58:51):
就是那种感觉
是一个完全很站出来的一个一个culture
我觉得很多中国人就是低下头
我只是来这边读书的
我不那么care什么中国人外国人
我就是来这边读书就比较
一个人在那边暂住
嗯哼
可是韩国人在美国
(59:12):
我感觉到就是他们会团结起来
在美国韩国人就是他们是一个group
在美国的中国人
有的时候就是我一个人在这边就搞
然后而且我我需要吃东西
我找一个中餐会
但是我是一个独立的一个存在
(59:32):
就没有一个团
没有比较没有一个团结的一个feeling
是的这方面他们确实还很团结一样
去去anywhere都感觉他们是很团结
然后会work together
maybe自几个韩国人就开一个韩国餐厅
开一个韩国的一个地方
对就
还是他们出来的时候
是group的一个能力
(59:56):
对然后有的时候
我觉得
中国人就没有这个group的一个心态
是的
而且其实像很多中国人通过互联网
呃得到的认知
让他们就觉得韩国是有一些刻板印象
所存在的
比如说就是左右在大国之间
(01:00:19):
这样一个一个形象
但其实呃当然肯定也会有
但是客观来讲的话
毕竟他们是啊
一个小国没有那么多的资源
嗯所以一定是当下的最优解就是联盟
(01:00:40):
嗯或者是怎么样
of course
必须要
对啊可是他们也manage做出
比如说KPOP
对对吧KPOP从韩国突然爆发出来
now it's everywhere
这种文化方面的真的interesting
然后那个是章鱼游
戏i forget what to call
对对对
也是career game出来的
(01:01:02):
就突然这种
文化方面爆发出来
然后Koreans就很proud说这个是我们做的
是的这个feeling我能理解
我能理解你为什么这么proud
it's it's cool
it's a cool feeling
文化影响力
yeah你觉得他们what's coming up
从从韩国
(01:01:23):
你觉得你后面能看到一些嗯
比如说什么文化方面的爆发吗
嗯这个其实有一个很有意思一个点
就是我呃
刚到那边去学韩语的时候
嗯我们班上有不同的国家的人
我有做过一个采访
OK就问他们为什么来韩国学学
学习韩语
(01:01:44):
我觉得这个是一个很有意思的一个点
首先不可否认的是
大部分女生
她们的原因都是kpop
不管是中东的也好
俄罗斯的也好
就是他们一些白人脸
他们也是因为kpop来想学
对包括东南亚
越南泰国
嗯都是因为kpop
(01:02:06):
然后另外的话
他们觉得韩国是一个发达的国家
其实也确实是一个发达的国家
对于他们来讲就那么小
你发达的比较快
对
所以他们觉得是来学习一些先进的
对他们来讲是先进的东西
嗯所以他们愿意来学韩语
到这边来留学
(01:02:26):
对是这样的一个想法
这个觉得对我来说
还是我之前没有想到过的
包括他们影响力到东欧
中东这样的一些国家
我之前是没有想到的
that's interesting
那他们也看到比如说三星这种大公司
对是很有机会的嘛
就可以发展的一些对方向
(01:02:48):
那make sense wow k pop so big
是的
that's crazy我想象不了
就是能影响到那么多人跑去韩国
去学习韩语
你觉得有很多人因为Anime
动漫跑去日本去学日语吗
you think so i don't know i'm curious
(01:03:11):
Anime有KPOP那么大吗
应该有吧
嗯
首先Anime我觉得它历史更更长一点
包括其实我们小时候在中国也看
对也看日本的动漫
但
现在的发展的话
我觉得enemy它走的越来越小
(01:03:33):
小众
对越来越小众
但它是小而精的
就比如说二次元的一些
包括什么动漫展
但我作为不接触的人
我觉得可能我不去
不会去了解到太多的东西
但是像KPOP的话
真的是有一种出圈的感觉呀
包括最近很火的那个阿帕特APP
(01:03:55):
哦买噶那个那个
那个歌一听到哈哈哈whole day都在唱对
很洗脑哎
很洗脑就哎呀i hate it
我一我第一次看听到i loved it
然后现在听多了
还再也不要听这首歌了
我也觉得
我现在觉得反而那个副歌更好听呀
(01:04:15):
哈哈哈所以
你觉得这个东西
就是已经变worldwide的一个东西了
嗯我觉得是
我也可以感觉到
even Squid game
Squid game出来的时候怎么everybody knows
this TV show我是i was shocked
因为没有英文
(01:04:35):
全部都是subtitle
他说OK大家都愿接受这个东西
因为足够拍的足够好
是他就愿意接受
subtitle也很新颖
对啊i was我真的很impressed
马上scream game秒出2了really
真的马上
very soon
所以你后面的一些啊
韩国计划是什么呢
(01:04:57):
嗯因为其实现在的话
我和我老婆就分隔两地嘛
因为工作的关系
我虽然是韩国公司但是是在上海办公
然后我老婆的话现在还是在首尔呃
也是在工作
嗯所以现状的话是分开
然后我大概一个月去一次
(01:05:19):
后面的话我觉得
嗯
如果我有能力
就是在韩国也可以赚到钱
就养活我们自己的话
我觉得还是可以考虑搬到那边去生活
就和老婆那边的家人一起生活
我觉得还是一个在努力的方向
(01:05:40):
对我来说
所以包括学习韩语
也是一直还在去学习
去为了这样一个方向
我们之前录的时候你也说过
你希望你的vlog
或是一些video能赚足够钱
让你们两个旅游让你们两个生活
可是VLOG也拍的偏少了
(01:06:02):
最近对时间不够
呃也不是时间不够
其实时间还是蛮多的
偏少的话
就是去韩国之后有一个很大的变化
我觉得呃
突然我觉得我不想拍了
哎
我不想
发生了什么呢
就我不想告诉太多人我的生活呃
(01:06:23):
而且我也觉得
没有人太
没有太多人关心我的生活是怎么样
那么我就过好自己的生活呃
所以后面包括我只拍了很少的一部分
都是而且是竖屏的
很短的一两分钟就很快的
也没有去讲解什么东西
就只是我拍这些片段放进去
(01:06:45):
所以我觉得呃
VLOG是不错
是记录生活蛮不错的途径
但我觉得对我现
阶段来讲
用它来变现还是比较遥远
嗯
另外呃
我不知道你知不知道小红书
小红书其实
呃他的一些商业机制
(01:07:08):
还对比VLOG这种横屏长视频
还更多一点对
所以我觉得
这样的一个投入产出比来讲的话
可能小红书就剖一些图文
比你去花更长的时间
去做一些横屏的视频
vlog yeah
(01:07:29):
带来的一个商业价值还会更高一点
所以你会往小红书慢慢发展吗
小红书在一直在做
我看虽然做了也不久呃
然后也接了一些商单
其实有一些商业的变现
但其实也不多
我想还是在更传统的一些事业方面
去有所发展
然后能够呃更多的一些财
(01:07:52):
财富自由的这样一个方向
呃所以VLOG就拍的比较少了
嗯that's too bad
因为我记得之前你还说
什么西瓜视频啊
这些的对
都一直都就希望这个能push多一点
然后让你那种能财富自由
(01:08:12):
能多去旅游
然后带着老婆一起这样跑
对啊
能至少撑住你们这两个的兴趣爱好
是吧感觉暂时
暂时这个很难
但其实我现在工作的话
我觉得还不错
哎呀就是刚才有说是韩国公司
算是仅次于三星的一个
(01:08:33):
第二大的一个财阀公司
然后我们做化工
做环保方向的化工材料
然后也还不错
包括工作和生活的平衡也不错
虽然他是韩系
但没有那么卷呀
哈哈然后做的还比较开心
(01:08:54):
可是在别的国家的寒气
然后如果万一调回韩国那个
这个卷的程度就不一样了
对你说的很对
是的对吧
对因为我知道在别的国家的
比如说华为
they don't work that hard
(01:09:15):
对
你回到这边的话
要卷总总部的
华为is different
是的
所以你万一回到韩国的you know
这一份工作
it's我觉得性质就会不一样
是的
还要你还要担心那边的work like balance
跟就会
是
(01:09:35):
所以还在考虑
哈哈为什么不把老婆调回来呢
嗯就是
他来的话呢
也是需要先找到工作
但是你也知道
因为现在其实上海外国人的就业环境
就其实也不是外国人就业环境
包括中国人的大学毕业生
(01:09:56):
或者是有经验的人
他们找工作其实也很难
嗯
所以也是很多这种客观的影响吧
嗯
哼
还是目前我们在两边各自发展一下
看哪边发展的比较好
呀
那没有说不定我老婆发展的更好
我去哈哈哈
那边no problem
(01:10:17):
也可以啊哈哈
你们有没有想找一个中间的地方呢
比如说东南亚
或是i don't know some other place就是
嗯
有有想过有想过
呃比如说
其实我们之前有考虑就是加拿大
澳洲或美国这样的一些地方
(01:10:38):
呃但对我们来说
我们了解到的
都是我们各自角度了解到的
我们不是会有一个共识
比如说我有加拿大的经历
我我看到的是这样的一个感觉
但我老婆看到的是冷冰冷
没什么活力哦
没有工作机会
加拿大is cold
(01:10:59):
然后那他看到的美国
韩国人看到的美国
和我们中国人看到的美国也不一样啊
他们会有一个自
己的滤镜的啊
他们他对美国是什么想法
就觉得呃就是机遇很多啊
然后通过努力
可以实现自己的一些理想价值
这样的
(01:11:21):
但其实呃呃
所以我们1月份会去美国
通通通过旅游也去了解一下
OK
后面我们再看
有没有一些比较好的共识
yeah回来的时候you let me know
and ha ha ha
i think i think it's Gonna be very different
他想象的美国应该
HAHA
it's pretty different
(01:11:41):
现在我在做我们的旅游计划嘛
然后发现哇
美国的真的好贵
呀
什么都很贵呀
衣食住行
衣衣可能不贵
衣衣可能不贵
但是住行真的是很贵
SOS版型
你要对这个这个方面要省一点啊
(01:12:02):
我很多朋友也是
觉得每次去美国
你住一个最便宜的猴桃也是it's expensive
是的要要这个方面能省
the rest of it应该会好一点
因为我觉得吃的还好
food's no problem我觉得真的是住真太贵了
huge就是直接你的budget直接cut in half
(01:12:24):
对啊对啊
飞过去住
基本上that's eighty percent
然后后面的就那几个可以玩的
it's hard是的
而且我们去大概要半个月的时间
要要住蛮久
你们考虑找一个房车
就住房车里
这个还没有
但我们考虑呃
看一些Airbnb这样可能
(01:12:48):
但是应该也会再租个车
所以的话位置的方面也不会考虑
就是太便捷的方
就是稍微远一点
便宜一点
我们租个车
这样的话应该还会好一些
i think so too啊
特别是LA那附近
我觉得住远一点
it's not a problem everybody drives所以你只要开车
你基本上哪里都得到了要
(01:13:08):
对啊开车小心一点
哈哈哈OK
好啊i guess我等你回来
然后you let me know你对美国的一些想法
这次相当于我们讲了我韩国回来
对韩国的一些比较片面的
个人的主观的想法
right那么等明年从美国回来看看
(01:13:30):
我们有时间讲一下我对于韩
对于美国客观主观的一些片面的想法
OK好
大家谢谢
拜拜拜拜
Hello everyone, today is Angus Zuozuo
Hello again.
Hello again.
It wasn't bad last time.
Last time in Shanghai
It must be two years.
Yeah, last time.
On the way here just now, it looked like August 27, 2022.
That's right.
You have been through a lot
Last time yours
actually
The last time your vlog was not called the current vlog.
Right.
Let me tell you now.
Ha ha.
Because of what I said before
I shoot vlogs
Mainly for me and my wife
Some of our daily lives
Including travel
Something.
Afterwards
Well, I also moved to Korea for a year
And I found out.
There are bigger worlds waiting for me to explore
So I changed it.
Change it to Zuo Ge Brave Earth
And and
Because I'm also 30 years old
So it's called Zuo Ge
Hahaha
Is left and left not suitable?
Left left sounds smaller.
I feel in my teens and twenties haha
We talked about this last time too
My entire family still calls me Bin Bin
Oh.
Is it Bin Bin?
Even though I'm almost 40
Still Bin Bin
I don't think family matters
Of course, hahaha.
Yes
Now uh
From then until now
You've been through a lot
For two years and then moved to Korea as well
Right
How was it?
I had a good time
For me
It's actually a very rare experience
Because uh
The first time I went to Korea was seven years ago in 2017
Then he also went on a trip to meet me
Uh, girlfriend at the time
Uh-huh.
Uh but I think
Travel to Korea
It's definitely different from when you actually live and study there.
Feel it
Completely different.
Same and for me
Last year was also because after I quit my job
Then go over there
Go Back to School
Back to campus
To learn a new language
So I thought, wow.
This experience is really hard to come by
You learned this for a year
Who else feels your Korean now?
Can you say a few words?
Ahahaha
Who are you looking at?
Just copied stinky corn
Hahaha
What do you say?
Hello I say hello everyone
I'm Zuo Chao
Do you think you have studied for a year?
Can you communicate with most people in Korea?
Well, I think so.
And just like the last time
Just last month
Last month I went back to Korea to meet my wife
Then I told her
I said uh
After a year's absence, I will come to Korea again
And this feels very different.
Because when I went there in two or three years
They didn't speak Korean.
Well, everything feels strange
Then I wait until I go again
Then I found it very familiar
Everything became familiar
Yeah, and?
He also spoke Korean.
I can do a lot by myself
Do more things
Right, I think there are some changes in this perception
Hmm, that's a good change
I think it's a good change.
Have many memories
Hmm haha
Ah, I remember when I first came to Shanghai.
Are you here to learn Chinese too?
My sister and I are from the US and basically have zero Chinese.
People's Square
These four words are basically unrecognizable in a process
Then I went to Fudan University to study for three months.
Three months later, we were able to communicate a little bit.
With most of the people on the side of the road, you know
Buy a bowl of noodles.
Or we can be more comfortable in China.
Yes, and then this time I
Then come back to China later.
It's just a feeling.
Oh, I'm going to live here now
Exactly.
Which points do you think are more different?
Travel and real life?
What's the difference?
Well, first of all, I think traveling
Uh, how many points will it be concentrated on?
For example, some tourist attractions
These are the places that tourists often go to
But if you live there
You don't usually go to these places at all
Just give me an example.
Myeongdong in Seoul
Everyone knows it's a place to shop
But in fact, locals don't go there often
Almost never.
But every time a friend comes
If they come to me in Korea
You must go!
Yes take them
But I don't think you can see much there.
Real Koreans too
All tourists
They're all tourists, right?
I think it is exactly the same as Shanghai.
Right.
Just my friend
Well then, let's go to a Yu Garden
Let's go to a Nanjing East Road
That's right. That's right.
I-i hate these places
Hahaha
It's just too many people.
There's too many people!
And then every day it's just squeezing around
But people come
Okay, then let's go to Lujiazui
Just take a look at the Oriental Pearl.
Then oh ok
Where you must go when you arrive
So what do you think?
This year's experience is
How do you feel?
In fact, there is one more thing I would like to add
Just because a lot of people go to Korea
All because of KPOP
Yiya
Yes!
But in fact, I just didn't care at all about KPOP
Just not interested
So what I saw in Korea
And what people who like KPOP see in Korea
Maybe it's not the same, huh?
And then first
For me
The biggest difference is the terrain
I lived in Shanghai before.
Yes, it is flat in Shanghai.
The delta is flat.
There are no mountains.
But in Seoul, 60 to 70 percent are mountains.
Really? Really?
You told me today, I was also taken aback.
10 You said ten mountains that's crazy
Really?
There are more than a dozen famous mountains around Seoul
Aha and then I've climbed it all over the last year
After climbing
I feel it
In fact, it is a bit like Hong Kong
I don't think many people know that Hong Kong is full of mountains
Yeah you run to a place in half an hour
There is a beautiful valley
Exactly.
Can go hiking
It's the first time I've heard of it.
Because I understand.
Hong Kong is a city
I thought it was just a big city.
Yeah, and then found out
Oh, there's a lot of nature
I heard the soul too
Yes!
So why did you choose to climb everyone?
Just feel
Uh, it was actually uh, it was like this
That's where I live.
It's a place called Dobong Mountain north of Seoul
There is a Daofeng Mountain in Daofeng District
Well, then it's closer.
Ah.
Then every day I would be at home and see this mountain from the balcony
I think it's very tall when I look at it from home.
And it's far away
Then I thought
I don't know why.
Want to climb to the top of that mountain?
I want to conquer it.
I want to see my house at the top of the mountain right now
Such a feeling
So I started. I climbed the first mountain.
OK
Ah.
And it didn't take long.
That's actually okay.
Because the mountain he mentioned is not very high.
About a few hundred meters OK
But the road is still a little wilder
It's not like China, it's all fixed for you.
What kind of concrete steps?
He's a little bit more primitive
Uh, crawled for about four hours
OK
Then go up and down like this
Then climb the mountain through this
I met a local club that climbs mountains
It's called climbing in Korea
CIK for short CIK
Then they open
It's a challenge.
OK
It's called the Seoul Seven Seven Mountains Challenge.
Then join them in this challenge
Maybe every week or every two weeks.
There will be such an activity as climbing a mountain together
Yeah, so?
I am through this activity
Well, mountain climbing on the one hand.
On the other hand, I also know a lot
Different countries
They also work and live in Seoul.
Some such friends
Just feel uh
One is sports.
In other words
I also made many friends through this movement.
It feels good too
OK
I think many of these foreigners who come to China
Also through these groups
Right
To survive a little
Because basically you come here.
There are not so many foreigners either.
And one way of thinking about it is that percentages are not very large.
And you've got to find these guys.
It's hard to find the right people for you
So I also through some hobbies
Like jiu-jitsu.
Rock climbing
Then suddenly you can meet new people
And then especially like Shanghai
Like Seoul too
OK
There are more people passing by
Then you can better find these people
At least I still like it
Then in the jiu jitsu circle oh you are in this industry
Then the people of this country
Including you.
You can find a lot of more interesting ones
Ah, you, you guys still keep in contact?
Yes, and Ouyang.
Will go back every time
Will you line up with them again when you go back?
Well, if I have time, I will.
And as recently as yesterday
There's an annual summary of that Strava
And then posted it in my Moments
And that Instagram.
And I said, "Okay.
I have a friend who likes me the most.
It's a black friend from France
Then I'm on Instagram and tag him
Then he followed
I have a reply.
I said wait for me next time, we can climb together again
There are quite a few contacts.
It's great I think friends of this sport really are
I feel a little closer
Because especially in a big city like this
You are, say, in Shanghai.
I feel like I don't have that many friends
And there aren't many opportunities to get closer
Yeah, it would be much better if you had some similar hobbies
Yes
Then you are in Korea
Any other groups?
Well, because in addition to climbing mountains
I was still running.
Hmm, so after I was in Korea
Also look for some local running groups
Uh, there is a running group
There is a running group that is very famous in income
Well actually I didn't go before
Already heard from my wife
Ha and uh also via Instagram
Then give them
Send them a private message
Uh, what will you do next time?
Can I join you in this way?
And of course, I didn't speak Korean.
Then it was sent in English, ha.
They were very welcoming.
People from China are also very welcome.
Then he ran away with them
Uh, a road near Audiovisual in downtown Seoul
And then they're around Gyeongbokgung
You know Gyeongbokgung Palace
It's like the Forbidden City in Beijing.
But much smaller.
And they started from Muromachi.
Then circle around Gyeongbokgung
Then come back like this
Running with them for the first time
Ah.
Sensory experience
And some running clubs in Shanghai
The experience is quite different.
What's the difference?
OK
The first thing is that
I think their pace will be a lot faster
Hahaha
The pace at which they run the group
The average pace is much faster than in Shanghai.
It's about 5.
Fenduo looks like this
And then they run very orderly.
I think there is another point that is very orderly
Well, in what way is this order reflected?
On the one hand, their journey
Like a narrow road.
Do you need two people in a pair?
They are really a couple
Abide by this rule
And as we go along
The pedestrian who encountered the object
OK
The two people in the beginning will get together.
Signal that newcomers should pay attention
Then when the newcomer comes, they will say sorry.
Just droop Hamilda
Then talk about it after it's over
Thank you, Consul Hamida.
This wow
I feel a little bit like a shock
I think it's a polite one.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes, I'm feeding hahaha.
Because I also feel these running clubs in Shanghai
I always thought the running club in Shanghai
I really think Shanghai is it's just to be social
This is very man
Not at all it's nice
It's just a side effect
So I'm really familiar with it here.
They don't primarily run for the sake of running.
It's so we can go drink and eat burgers later
Yeah, whatever
just
I think these guys running clubs
A lot of people don't really like running
Hahaha
I'm not very clear about this.
Ah, don't you have a running club in Shanghai?
Ah, yes.
I also started with a lot of people
I also ran a lot in Shanghai this year
Well, then the biggest difference is what I just said
Is it slower?
Then you can chat during the run.
You can run fast too, right?
Faster, yeah
I think my friend Calvin
He is the second gear of dark runners
I also ran with them recently
I think dark runners are pretty fast
A few friends.
That's right, and they also train there seriously
Are you ready for the competition?
That's right, so I also want to say
Just uh
In fact, Dr. Drunders and PRC know each other.
Oh, right.
So haha
So I think Dr is still real
There are a few people who really enjoy running
Exactly.
Oops, what do you think?
Shanghai and maybe other countries
What should they expect?
If you are a member of a running group
Then over there you should have some
What are you mentally prepared for?
Well, I don't think you need to prepare much either.
Because uh
So let's start with running.
Uh, the big Runner you just mentioned
Yeah. Runner
And said PRC
And then there are actually, uh
American
Uh, is it New York or something?
Ah.
What else is the gap?
OK, and then there's AFE in Tokyo.
I know this running group from many countries.
They are all connected to each other
And then also
Just pure
Uh-huh.
Ah, for example, there is the Seoul Marathon here
Then maybe people from other countries come along.
Come to Seoul for a run
So we'll have some running the other day?
Ah!
So you could get to know each other.
It's also about understanding different cultures.
Right. Right
That's a very good approach.
Then on the day of the race
Then they will cheer each other on
Well, we will notify in advance.
How many kilometers is there such a plus?
Gas station went right
Everyone will cheer you on if they go there.
Is it all in English?
Well, is English okay?
OK
What if
Because actually there's not much English about running.
Actually right
Yehaha
Then if you don't know English
Uh, such as PRC them
In fact, some of you speak Chinese.
There is a girl
And she said to me
She studied at Fudan University in Shanghai before.
Very cool.
And now he has been living in thin
So he can be the bridge -- yeah, yeah, yeah.
I also think it is very important to have such people
Yes because let's say you're here
So you see a lot of jiu-jitsu gyms.
90% of them are foreigners
But they still need one or two
Call it a community manager
Hmm, and then you must be able to speak Chinese.
It has to.
That you can bring everyone together yeah
Because if not
Then there will only be fewer and fewer people.
Yes, yes.
So you can always welcome different countries.
People of different cultures
Still important
Yes!
So you think you're on sale if you don't have Korean
Can you talk to these?
Um, running clubs or
Of course you can communicate
Of course no problem.
Mainly in English
Because like me, it's about three processes. Hmm.
The first process is in pure English
Because I couldn't speak Korean at all at that time.
Then I know that there are people who can speak Chinese later
Can English plus Chinese
Uh-huh.
And then I started learning Korean.
Then don't speak Chinese
I speak Korean and English.
Hahaha, and then go back.
Ooh, I don't speak English either.
I can talk to them directly in Korean
That's great. How long do you think this process will take?
Ah.
In fact, basic Korean
If you don't consider this, what kind of Jin language?
Plain language like this
They will have one of these.
This different system of respect
I know this.
It's complicated.
It's what you want to express your meaning.
Still relatively easy
About 4 months of study.
You can almost do it.
Then they can also understand
It doesn't matter if you use honorifics or not
There's no such thing as respect.
It doesn't matter, I know what you mean.
That's okay.
And how long does this more polite Korean take?
OK
In fact, I am still learning
But because I think it's still right or not enough?
And that includes now that I'm back
I also joined a Korean company when I came back to Shanghai last year.
Although our company does not require you to know Korean.
Our company communicates in English
But of course it's better if you can speak Korean
Because after all, the leadership is Korean.
Right
So you think this will take a lot more time
Yes, I feel like I have to learn all the time.
Including is actually like Chinese
No. Every year there's something new.
What internet language or something
And Korea is no exception.
New words are added every year
They made up their own words.
That was interesting.
I don't think so either.
I've been feeling a lot of young people lately
I can't communicate with them.
Haha, it's because of some words on the Internet.
And they invented it themselves, like
Mandarin is OK.
Then normal communication should also be OK
But I feel you
My Mandarin is completely different from yours.
Then listen to them communicate like this
have me
Sometimes these after 00 i'm lost completely lost
Well, it feels like their world is my world
There's just too much of a generation gap.
Yes!
Then would you recommend
For example, if I am in China, I will speak Chinese first.
What should I do?
It's impossible not to communicate with them at all
OK
I think it depends on whether you have one.
It's the idea of being open to new things.
Yeah, but actually for me
Well, I'm on the Internet.
I feel like an old man
It was me on the Internet.
I don't want to accept something too new
Douyin what?
I'm actually right
I don't like this kind of short video either.
So these things
I sometimes think they are chatting
No matter the topic or theirs
I was lost in the language
Sometimes it's hard for me to talk to them
Me too.
It's the same for me.
Ahahaha
Stop talking about you.
Hahaha
Then you don't think
Is it very divided in this sand?
Just you.
I used to think I could be much older than I am
I can communicate with people much younger than me
Hmm and now I have to consider purchasing on behalf of others
Just each
Are different
Yes, post-00 and post-90.
It's different now
And the bar for that becomes higher and higher.
Yes, not to mention that you have an age problem now
Then your area is OK.
I am America
Then there is another split with China
As far as you can communicate, it's getting smaller and smaller.
Right
Have you ever considered that this is
In fact, I think it's a word that everyone is saying now
Call information reduction prevention
Do you know what this means?
Yeah, I heard about that.
Even though it means the Internet.
People want to connect
But the truth is now that everyone has their own information
Build a house, you are in your own house
Then you don't get to know others
Hmm, they look at it every day and think about it every day
Won't know
So how do you think we can break this liberation?
I think this is rather difficult
Yeah, because you think about it, or do you think so?
That's my comfort zone.
It's not bad for me to live here
I'll think about it.
Me too, I will try to understand but how to jump out?
What do you think?
OK
I think it's better to meet more people
If you contact people first, there should be a solution.
Good solution
I try my best
Just use this radio
Or use some of my good ways for you.
Then find some people to pull over and talk to them
Because there are some people who totally agree with me
Then you are here are you human haha
So sometimes when we communicate
I'll be right over there.
It's like a completely different world.
I can't think of anything more
You know we all live in Shanghai
But your experience is different from mine.
Yes, and then you run to search, it should be more different.
How do you feel about following in Shanghai?
Ah, Korea is in Seoul.
What do you think are the biggest differences?
OK
Because they are all big cities
Uh, there's another one.
Another feeling is
I think it's actually soaring in comparison
His proportion of foreigners will be higher
Whether they live there or are tourists
Well, his proportion of foreigners will be more
So it will seem more international
Hmm, so living there
As a foreigner, you are
Although although the Chinese look similar to them
No, it's not very common. It's just that
Hmm how to say
Like what?
A foreigner's words in China
It might still feel a little bit compelling
Ah but
If you were soaring
It won't feel too noticeable
It feels like this
One is easier for you to integrate into.
Hmm, you're not a special being
Right.
This feeling
But you also have an Asian face.
Will they be the first?
The first reaction is that you can speak Korean
Hahaha uh
This is what my wife told me.
I speak the first sentence of Korean
The other party can tell that I am not
I'm not Korean
Like I just say hello
Annie, see you?
I think
I've said it very close to their Korean pronunciation.
Yeah, but my wife said
Koreans only need to hear this sentence
I knew you weren't Korean
Hahaha ah
Because I was chatting with my friend the other day.
Then he said he also had one
We also have a Korean friend
Uh-huh.
We were sitting in a Xinjiang restaurant.
The waiter kept speaking Chinese to him
Ah, because he is Chinese.
Because his face looks Asian.
Then the rest are foreigners
So they just kept talking to the Asian face in Chinese.
And he just sat there and didn't understand.
I don't understand at all
Just shaking his head over there
But because I also feel
When I first came to China
Their first reaction was
Do you have a Chinese face?
You must know Chinese.
Then I read no
Don't understand at all
Don't understand a word
Haha, and then
They can't imagine that you are no Chinese
Right.
Then I didn't know I saw you in Korea
The first reaction is why
The feeling of no
This doesn't seem to have it.
Well, that feeling is gone
Because I was there last year
In fact, as a student
I have been going to school for language classes every day
This feeling
So as a student
I think it's pretty easy to fit in
Yeah, nice
Ah.
Because most of them are from abroad to learn Korean.
Yes, yes.
Like our teacher is Korean
Yeah, and so are the students he's working with.
Although most of them are still from China
But you have it in other countries.
So I think the role of being a student
To integrate into a new country
It's really a quick one.
A very convenient way
I don't think there are too many thresholds for me
And I'm ostensibly a student.
Then there is the Korean wife behind it
So I don't think it's too big.
This integration process
It blended in quickly
But don't you think
Because my experience here is that I can soon
Surface integration
But I think China still rejects you very much.
If not Chinese
There will still be a threshold
I heard there are more in Korea
Because I also feel that I'm here
In the beginning, it was easy to get in
But there is a ceiling
Yes, yes.
As far as the Chinese still think no, you are not ours
There must be this.
Uh like you said you got it
It's true that Koreans like to hold themselves together
If you are a foreigner
You definitely can't fit into their inner circle
Yeah, but in terms of your daily life
You go into
I think this threshold is still relatively low
That is, his threshold is relatively low.
Of course, the ceiling is relatively low.
Right.
It feels like this
Do you think this ceiling is breakable?
OK
I don't really know.
But I was exposed to some
For example, the Chinese living in Korea
Uh, I've lived for many years
I feel like they didn't fit in because
I don't know the first one.
First, do they want to fit in or don't they want to fit in?
Right? That's number one.
Yes, it is because I see one of their current situations.
Just hanging out with the local Chinese people
So what about my words?
I want to talk to the local people
Well, of course the local Chinese also have
Of course, the local Koreans or people from other countries
I want to know their rights
So
I have such a proactive psychology to integrate
That's like for this other Chinese guy in Korea.
Did they have such a motive in the first place?
And psychology I don't understand
But the phenomenon I see is
They still prefer to be together like this
Hmm Amy
You can also feel it when you look at Shanghai
Yes, the French are all together.
Then everyone still divides
Saying together is also together
But in the end
Your close friends
Basically people from your country
Or people in your area
Yeah, you went to some school in America.
You see those Chinese who are studying abroad
It's all Indians in a group
It's all together.
Because it's your comfort zone
Yes, you think so.
The threshold for my communication with them is 0.
I can still talk to them and continue speaking Chinese
I sometimes think it's wrong
You go to a new country
You too, you should enjoy this country more
Some local cultures
Yeah, I feel that way.
Neither do so
And I came over here.
Most of my friends now
They are also friends from China.
Rather than foreign American
Or less beautiful
And it feels like this.
I want to integrate into some of these
But I still feel
They will give you a ceiling
Think you are not ours
Then this ceiling is hard to break
At least in China
I think it's really hard to break.
The simplest is
I'm in America.
Many friends will say
This is my Chinese art
Hahaha no problem
When I was young, I
I don't care that much
When you come here
This is my American friend Arthur
Just you or put you outside?
As for why you want to add it, this is my American friend.
Why don't I support your friend?
OK
This first uh
What I'm trying to say is that I'm on the same page as you.
I prefer to integrate or experience
The culture of different races in this different country
Uh but like you said later
It is more deliberate to emphasize where this comes from
I don't seem to have experienced it yet.
Haven't experienced
They won't say it's my Chinese friend.
It should also be
It doesn't seem to be possible for this.
OK
But maybe I didn't say
But everybody feels right
Then my second topic is you
If I hadn't said it directly, yes.
But you also feel
OK
I'll give you my Tieba.
I am in China.
Sometimes my friends in Shanghai maybe
Naturally changed to Shanghainese
Ah-ha.
Then I feel like
You don't want me to hear what you say
Or you don't want me to know it all
If there is one, you will speak.
Ah-ha.
And I wondered why
You know this is something I don't understand
I'm already on this side.
I didn't recognize it, haha.
And then you switched
Some polite friends will turn back to you to speak Mandarin
OK
Sometimes it switches
Then why are you like this?
It feels like you are
I don't know if you did it on purpose.
There are some people I think
It was intentional
Hmm but
This ceiling is hard in front of you
This is your new threshold
But I won't let you in.
A little annoying to me
Got it.
Then you can also understand through the point you said.
There's a way to break this ceiling
It's language.
If you have complete mastery of the other person's language
Including Shanghainese
English is also good.
Korean is also good.
If your language does not have this problem
The ceiling will rise a lot
That's right, do you think you're better at Korean?
I'm not very good at it, actually.
But you are a little better than ordinary people.
Then you might just keep going up the ceiling.
One more thing
Language is just the first step
I think it's the first step
OK
It's your first step to a higher ceiling
And then, of course, there's more.
Have you learned about their cultural background?
Their history?
Their current popular culture
Or of course
If you have a common interest
This is also a staircase
Well, let's make your ceiling a little higher.
Yeah so I think
Well, if you want to fit in
Well, you need to take the initiative to do a lot of things.
Of course, the kindness of the other party
That's a more objective reason, isn't it?
So you think Korea is still difficult.
OK
First, the kindness of the other party
I think there is
Well, the good intentions are huge.
The other party is really welcome
Ah!
Then so
It's your subjective problem.
Do you have the right to study hard
Or want to know
Actually, I've been watching a lot lately
It's about, uh
History of Korea
OK
Including even the recent history of independence
And then there's, uh
The previous Joseon Dynasty
I have gone to see a lot of these specially.
Do you think I would be helpful?
I think it's quite interesting, actually
I never talk about this stuff.
So I'm less likely to learn those things.
I'm usually talking about rock climbing
Right
My hobbies are
That's one way.
Aargh.
And what about me?
In this field, it is much better to communicate with locals
Yeah, it feels like I'll be closer
Right
But I personally still feel that
In China
A lot of people put the threshold right there.
I just deliberately keep you out of my circle
OK
I don't know if you feel that way about Saul
Well, maybe your old
Because I have a Korean wife
There will be a channel
I think this is also a channel
Well, by the way, I was just thinking about saying that it might also
Well, it's a matter of changing times
Because China was a long time ago
Everyone is also comparing neighbors
They're very close.
However, with the development of society
Including some progress in urbanization
Like we came to Shanghai from other places yeah
I don't know who our neighbor is now
I wouldn't know him at all.
It's just that everyone is a stranger
Therefore, there is a context for the development of this era
Hmm, it will also create such a gap.
Or the existence of a circle
Yeah, but not good or bad.
I think
Ah interesting
Yeah, that's right.
I think there are also two sides
Right.
Ah!
It's also important that you keep a circle
Who do you let in?
There should be a little threshold
Right
But sometimes I think
Maybe it's polite
I just feel upset i don't know
Even I want to get in.
Then I also showed my sincerity
I want to be in this circle
I occasionally encounter this feeling
And then a little upset
understand
Well, let me change the subject. Do you think it's in Korea?
Eating shouldn't be a problem.
Ha ha.
I think there's a lot to talk about
Enough
In fact
I was in Korea for a year and I was a little thinner
Is it because you are not used to it?
It's not unaccustomed, is it?
There are two kinds, one is the school cafeteria meal
In other words
I ate out with family and friends
This Korean food
Well, first of all, compared to China
The biggest difference is that there will be fewer types
There's a lot less variety.
I want to eat hot pot mutton skewers every day over there. What?
Although there are some, it is about twice as expensive.
Right
Then school meals
Although some patterns change every day
But I don't think the difference is that big. Hmm.
Ah.
Including meat
We have both vegetables, but I don't think the difference is significant.
The way they cook is relatively speaking
Still less
OK
Either add various sauces to it and cook or fry it.
OK
This is a school meal, otherwise
Eating with family and friends outside of school
Words from this side
I think there might be a lot. My wife thinks there might be a lot.
But every time she asked me what I wanted to eat
I don't think I can say it.
A lot, I think it's still just those kinds.
Barbecue
Then what army hot pot, then cold noodles or something
I think there are so few types that it's hard for me to choose
Which do you think is your favorite food over there?
You said mutton skewers and hot pot.
If you eat Korean food?
Uh no Chinese food
Chinese food
If you're homesick, you're really craving
What's that?
Because I am a northerner
Well, actually what I want to eat most is noodles.
Of course, the north side.
Then over there, I remember there is a fried noodles or soup noodles.
I prefer fried noodles
Dry
There is such a noodle shop in Lanzhou
Well, then there will be fried noodles in it.
If I want to eat, I will go.
Hmm, and then I'll do it myself.
Hahaha
That's one way.
Right there.
In fact, uh, I have cooked quite a few times
Hmm, just compared to when living in Shanghai.
Because Shanghai is cheap and convenient.
I don't want to do it myself over there
Because I can't eat it.
Then I'll buy it myself
Go to the supermarket to buy it.
Do it yourself at home?
Including fried noodles, I also make it myself
I also think it's not bad
My first year in China
I was ten years ago
When I miss home
I would want to eat apple puree
Mmmm apple sauce
This is one of the things I've loved since I was a kid
Then I will go to the imported supermarket.
A can of apple sauce
I remember the 35-40 yuan can at that time.
One knife at a time in America
Haha, and then sell it for $5 here.
Then my first reaction was to do it myself
The first reaction is apple puree is just a few things
Put it in and you can do it yourself
Then buy it
Bought a few rotten apples
Then break it up and cook it.
Put a little cinnamon
I'll be OK.
You can eat now.
But then I was taken aback
I said I miss home so much
I didn't pay 6 times the price either.
Then homesickness can't be justified
At that time
So I feel it too
I have many foreign friends here.
They get better at cooking for themselves.
Right
Because when you really miss home
You go, I go to a burger joint.
Or go to a place
Sometimes your taste is just wrong.
It's just that they still have a little local dialect
Improve your stuff
So you eat
You feel
Didn't seem to hit my spot
Hmm so I still do it myself
I'll learn it myself
So I totally understand that you are at home
OK
And then you -- you learn to make what you want to eat.
Then I recommend my friends to go to other countries
More self sufficient
It will be much more comfortable if you can make what you want to eat
Yeah, yeah
And you make what you want to eat
The process is also happy
You see, and then you can also share it with the people over there.
Say we do it this way
Not your fast food restaurant
Why are you eating this burger?
But they think
Oh, this burger is supposed to taste like this.
Sometimes what are you doing
The food aspect
You think it is more single, and I agree.
OK
I always thought that Korean food was just a few
taste
Yes
Look
Either hot sauce or big sauce
Hahaha
Did your wife explain it to you?
Why does she feel so rich and diverse?
OK
In fact, I can also say it, uh
In Korea, although the country is relatively small
But they are different cities
There will also be some unique diets
Like what?
Uh if you eat bibimbap
Then the most famous one is Quanzhou bibimbap.
A little bit in the south.
Then fried chicken. There's a place called Chuncheon in the northeast of Seoul.
The fried chicken here is very famous.
And then there are other places.
Ah.
Uijeongbu
Over there is a birthplace of army hot pot
So this is them.
Every diet has what they call an original
The most authentic place
Don't you think China has it too?
Yeah, China too.
So they think it's a lot
But I feel like it's those sauces.
Then those fermentation methods
It's just that the things used are slightly different.
But the taste
It's all the same.
Yeah, pretty much.
I don't understand
It's just that some people told me
They really like Korean food.
Yeah, Korean food is great
I love barbecue.
Yeah, me too.
You eat it every day
Sometimes I feel like are you sure
Is this really different?
Do you really eat it differently?
Because of me, I feel like I can't eat it.
I don't think so either.
If it's barbecue
Either the type of meat is different
Either the part of the meat is different
Then the dipping ingredients
Still about the same
Just those few.
Right.
Do you feel that you are spoiled in China?
There are so many different cuisines
It's possible that I remember it clearly
It was when I first returned to Shanghai last December.
Then I started eating hot pot
Then eat various provincial dishes
I said that China has more than 30 provinces
If you eat a saved dish every day
I can eat for a month
Hahaha great right
This is ridiculous.
Sometimes
I feel like this side really spoils me.
You can eat anything you want anytime you want
Right.
Amazing things always come out
Incredible China really is that big
Then every place is really different
Yes!
Sometimes
I can't tell the difference between Chongqing and Chengdu hot pot.
But some people eat it
But basically each region has its own unique characteristics
Yes, comparative features
Exactly.
So sometimes I just
People say Chinese food
I like Chinese food.
I said you can 't say that hahaha
Yo
That's too much.
Yeah, too many.
You Say Korean Cuisine II
That's what it looks like.
You said daily material
I'm also a little rich
But I can understand
Maybe what do you mean?
Your Chinese food is basically all of this
Too much is too much
Then many Chinese people will say that I like Western food.
Ha ha.
Also many
I think what you said is too broad
It's too generic.
Ah, is there any cultural difference?
You feel
OK
And I particularly want to talk about this little bit of civility.
It's the high and low thing.
Oh, politely, indeed
Uh, I think it's influenced by this
I have a big change
I just love to nod my head right now.
That's how Koreans nod their heads.
They are also a way to show respect
Including uh
You go to a convenience store.
The cashier will greet you as soon as you enter
Then also nod
Then buy good things, and so will you when you leave.
Just a nod, I think.
Uh, this is polite
I think we really can still learn
OK
That includes strangers on the street.
Certainly.
But this one is not quite the same as the one in North America.
I think North America will say hello to you directly.
But their words just stop there
I'll just nod and signal
Well, I think that's a little tricky.
You think it's learnable?
Because it's less done here, right?
Yeah, I guess.
Uh, how do you feel?
It's as if he saw my presence
Well, he acknowledges my existence
Then he showed his kindness
Showed me his kindness
Hmm like this
But in China
More of you may be that I can't see you
I ignore you
Such a feeling
It will be far away
OK
Maybe a small action
It makes people feel very close to such a feeling
I oops I said I started
When I came to Shanghai
The time I remember most clearly was
I'm looking for People's Square.
Then I might be near Nanjing Road.
But I'm looking for People's Square.
And I went into a convenience store.
I also forgot about this old uncle and aunt in the convenience store.
Just go that way.
Just say it to me.
I asked People's Square
That's all.
Neither
Didn't tell me specifically
Then I'll do the exact same next move
Hmm hahaha
I feel like you just tell me a few ways
At least give me something
Nothing, just um, uh, over there
At that moment, I felt that if it were me
Very cold
Yes, very cold.
I feel like you don't welcome me very much.
Just tell me a few ways
You go that way two
Go a few ways over there
But you don't give me anything.
Just give me one.
In one direction, you can
Wow, I just
I was really devastated at the time.
I feel myself
I don't feel respected by you.
Because I thought I'd ask you politely, People's Square.
Yes and then you are uh
The feeling of not saying anything to me
So I understand you
Not just a nod
At least I said hello to you
There's something to get closer
I still like it
So did I.
I feel that at least Japan
In fact, Thailand is very hot
Passion is like this
I can feel it in a few places.
You still care about me
When I'm here, I don't feel it when I have it.
Maybe there are too many people.
Or something like that
For me, it's a long distance, right?
Instead of getting closer, right?
The direction is wrong
One is the feeling that I push you away
The other is that I took the initiative to pull you over
Then respect you
Right, right
But you haven't talked about this high and low yet.
Are you the brother?
Oppa
I don't understand this
Can you explain this relationship?
This one.
Do you understand?
I can ok
I actually think this is a little difficult.
That includes what you call your friends
First words
They like to introduce themselves
like
That is to say, what year was your age born?
It's easy to confirm whether you are brother or brother
Are you sister or sister?
Yes, and then in Korean
The brother called by boys is different from the brother called by girls.
Including the sister called by boys and the sister called by girls
It's also different.
OK, it's a completely different word.
Tell me about it.
Uh, the boy's name is Luna OK.
The girl's name is Ernie
Ernie okay
The girl's name is Oba
Ah.
The boy's name is hum
It's a bit like fierce in Chinese.
So it's completely different.
Then another if you are with friends
The first time I'm with a friend
If it's the first time you meet a friend
What would you call them?
Kasi, it's a bit like Japanese or something plus sun
Right
Then if you are a little closer, you can remove the name.
Called Mouxi
OK
Zuoxi like this Zuoxi
Hey
I understand yes
If you were any closer
No more surname and West.
Can be called by name
For example, my name is Zuo Chao.
This dynasty
Yes, you can directly call Chao
They have such a progressive feeling.
With your intimacy
Uh, you can also
But usually if you dance like this
It is the other party who can take the initiative to say
Well, just say you can call me whatever you want
I see.
He thinks we're already very close
We are very close
You can just call me what?
You don't have to call me brother or anything
Remember to call my name
This is also possible.
Do you think younger people are more likely to
Do you still respect this?
Or start to leave
Still doing it
Still doing it right
Why I like this
Is that your traditions are still preserved
Because I think a lot of traditions
And especially in the United States, less and less.
This fades quickly
But there are some places
Than Italy
I think Italy is a lot
Some of those old Italian traditions
It lasted a long time.
Young people still feel that
This is how it should be done.
Well, there are some countries.
What I'm mainly saying is that I see America
It feels like many traditions don't exist at all
I can reduce it if I can.
If you can, directly
So I feel especially in America
There's no tradition.
Then there are some countries
Take Korea, for example.
For example, Japan
The young people are still doing it.
The older generation is doing it
The older generation is doing it
It's just very popular.
Why is Korea able to do this?
As far as the concept of Korean superiority and inferiority is concerned
I feel a bit entrenched
OK
That is, including the earliest days they were influenced by Confucianism
Of course, it's not that Confucianism is bad
Confucianism has its good side
Just think I think
In their opinion, this young and old is
everlasting
OK
If you are older than me
I must respect you for that
They didn't think it was a bad thing.
Hmm they think it's normal
Neither is it a good thing
Just normal stuff
It should be passed down
Such a feeling I think
OK
But I do think that I
I don't know exactly what they think.
Including maybe everyone thinks it's different
I remember when I was a child, I was called a teacher forever
Mister and his name
Mister Robinson
Then I see now
Yeah, well, especially on YouTube.
You'll see some kids go by their first names
And then
I feel that America likes to push this boundary
Just most of them.
We grew up and I thought this would never change
Uh-huh.
But it's changing
I just feel that these young people want to see it more
Where is this extreme?
Where is this edge?
Can I scream?
Ah they want to test the edge
And I think America loves that.
Would not be called Mr Robin
Just call directly and call first name
Then that's very rude.
But I don't think America has this.
There is no such rule
That is to say, this is necessary.
When I was little, I thought there was
OK
I will never call my teacher by his first name
Certainly not.
It feels like a sign of respect
Right
But the new generation seems like they don't care so much
They don't have it in their bones.
I feel that this must be done
understand
Where did this come from?
Why didn't they?
I think this is a very important thing.
But you are in Korea as you said.
I think in Japan too
It's in the bones
Yeah, I was.
That's why this time
I have thought
Maybe we think it's polite. Hmm.
But in some children today
They may think
They are breaking an authority
They are more challenging
Such a feeling
Maybe what we think
It's the same thing.
The definition has changed
Yes.
We define him as polite and traditional
They define feudalism as authority.
You are suppressing me
Yes, so we still abide by it.
We think it's good.
But they already consider it obsolete.
Need to break
Need to challenge
So I think it's still different
Because I think it's true that maybe if you look
They feel that the current society does not respect them very much
So why should I respect this society?
Yeah, and then maybe some better places.
Maybe feel
Wow, we're doing pretty well now.
Then why break
Anything goes on like this
Ah!
I feel that the old Italy was really theirs
For example, the way you make noodles
They are rigid
And this is the only way to do it
Indeed, this is the best. Why should I change?
Right then i understand
Something is passed down.
Because there has been such a long history
Do it all the time
And that's maybe the best way to keep doing it
No problem hmmm
But I keep feeling
America is just not that kind of country.
Make it better not necessarily better
But I've always had that mentality
Like challenge me
So far I am in China.
I have it sometimes
I just want to see where your bottom line is
Ha ha.
Then many Chinese people are very disgusted with me
But I may have thick skin.
Because in fact, like the United States
Because it is also a cultural melting pot.
There are always new ones.
immigration
Immigrants from different cultural backgrounds in various countries
OK
You will definitely bring a lot of new things when you come in.
vegetarian words
After all, their main citizens
Or is it what they call the Korean nation?
Well, such a composition
But the words of the United States
White people still count as 60%
But also from many, many different countries
Including Chuangpu
Aren't they German?
Come to Germany
like this
So I think he and this country
A country's cultural background still has a little influence
exist
How would you describe the people of Korea?
How many words would you use?
Conservative from my point of view
Conservative is a
But I just wanted to say
As far as I'm concerned, it's actually unfortunate
I don't think they are very lucky.
Hmm, interesting?
I feel a little pessimistic
OK
Uh, how do you say this?
Just from the beginning
So let's start with geography.
Their location
Really not good
And go left and right.
It's all about acting, it's all about checks and balances.
Hmm haha
Ah.
So I think this nation is still a bit unfortunate
OK
But I think on the other hand
Although the first word I gave was unfortunate
But the second word is perseverance, perseverance.
They don't have this.
Overwhelmed by walking
OK
Or has it been
So-called resistance
Including recently, they are also protesting
Yes!
So I think
Although under such great pressure
And a great misfortune
They are still resisting
OK
I feel very proud of Koreans in America
And I'm Korean.
I like the feeling that I am Korean II
I don't think it's a problem.
Because I'm feeling
The Chinese in America are not so proud
Oh.
But
Koreans in America are really Koreans are the best
That's what it feels like.
It's a completely stand-out culture
I think many Chinese people just bow their heads
I just came here to study
I don't care that much about Chinese foreigners
I just came here to study
I live there alone
Uh-huh.
But Koreans are in America
My sense is that they will unite.
In America, the Koreans are a group
The Chinese in America
Sometimes I do it alone here
Then and I need to eat
I'm looking for a Chinese restaurant.
But I am an independent existence
There is no group
No comparison, no one united, a feeling
Yes, they are still very united in this regard
They feel united anywhere they go
And work together
Maybe open a Korean restaurant since a few Koreans
Open a place in Korea
Yes
Or when they came out
Is an ability of the group
Yeah, and then sometimes
I think
The Chinese do not have a mentality of this group
Yes!
And in fact, like many Chinese people through the Internet
Uh gained recognition
Make them feel that Korea has some stereotypes
Exists
For example, right and left between major powers
Such an image
But in fact, uh, of course there will be
But objectively speaking
After all, they are.
A small country doesn't have that many resources.
Well, so it must be that the current optimal solution is the alliance.
Yeah, or what?
It has to.
Yeah, but they managed to
Like KPOP.
Right? KPOP just burst out of nowhere from Korea.
This cultural aspect is really interesting
And that's the octopus swim.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's a career game
Just suddenly
Cultural explosion
And the Koreans were proud to say we did it
Yes, I can understand this feeling
I can understand why you're so proud
cultural influence
Yeah what do you think they're coming up
From From Korea
Do you think you can see some in the back?
Like some kind of cultural explosion?
Well, this is actually a very interesting point
It's me uh
When I first went there to learn Korean
Well, we have people from different countries in our class.
I did an interview.
OK, just ask them why they came to Korea to study.
Learn Korean
I think this is a very interesting point
First of all, it is undeniable that
Most girls
Their reasons are all kpop.
From the Middle East.
Russia is also good.
Just some of them with white faces
They also want to learn because of kpop.
Yes, including South East Asia
Vietnam Thailand
Well, it's all because of kpop.
And then something else.
They think Korea is a developed country
In fact, it is indeed a developed country
It's that small for them.
You develop faster
Right
So they think it's to learn something advanced
It's advanced for them
Yeah, so they're willing to learn Korean.
Come here to study
Yeah, it was one such idea.
This feeling is for me
Or something I hadn't thought of before
Including their influence in Eastern Europe
Some countries in the Middle East
I didn't think of it before.
Then they also see big companies like Samsung
Yes, it's a good chance.
Some of the right directions can be developed
Yes!
That's crazy I can't imagine
It can affect so many people to go to Korea
To learn Korean
Do you think there are a lot of people because of Anime
Did anime go to Japan to learn Japanese?
Is Anime as big as KPOP?
There should be
OK
First of all, Anime, I think it's a bit older.
Including, in fact, we also watched it in China when we were young.
Yeah, I watch anime as well.
But
The current development
I think the enemy is getting smaller and smaller
niche
More and more niche
But it's small and delicate
So, for example, in the second dimension.
What does it include? Comic Con?
But I, as the uncontacted person
I think maybe I won't go.
Won't learn much
But like KPOP
There is really a feeling of being out of the circle
Including the recently popular Apat APP.
Oh buy that that
As soon as I heard that song hahaha sang it right the whole day
Very brainwashed
It's brainwashed, oops, i hate it
I loved it the first time I saw and heard i loved it
And now I hear more.
Never listen to this song again
I don't think so either.
I think that chorus sounds better now
Hahaha so
What do you think of this thing?
Is something that has become worldwide
Yeah, I think so.
I can feel it too.
Squid game, everybody knows
Because there is no English.
All subtitles
And he said, "OK, people will accept this."
Because it's good enough to shoot well enough
He is willing to accept
Subtitles are also very novel
Yeah, i was really impressed
Immediately scream game seconds out 2 really
Really soon
So some behind you?
What is the Korean plan?
Well, because actually now
My wife and I are separated
Because of work
Although I am a Korean company, I am working in Shanghai.
And my wife's words are still in Seoul. Uh
Also working
Well, so the current situation is separate.
And then I go maybe once a month.
Later, I think
OK
If I had the ability
You can make money even in Korea
Just feed ourselves
I think it's still possible to consider moving there
I live with my wife's family
I think it's still a direction we're working on.
For me
So that includes learning Korean.
I'm still learning.
Go in such a direction
You also said when we recorded it before
Do you want your vlog?
Or some videos can make enough money
Let you two travel and let you two live
But VLOG is also less photographed.
I haven't had enough time recently.
Well, it's not that there's not enough time.
Well, there's plenty of time.
Less words
There was a big change after going to Korea.
I think uh
Suddenly I feel like I don't want to shoot anymore
Hey
I don't want to.
So what happened?
I don't want to tell too many people about my life, uh
And I also think
No one is too
Not many people care how my life is going
Then I'll live my life uh
So I only shot a small part of the back.
Both and it's portrait.
It's a short minute or two, it's fast.
Didn't explain anything
It's just that I take these clips and put them in
So I think uh
VLOG is good
It's a wonderful way to document your life.
But I feel that for me now
Stage-wise
Using it to monetize is still relatively far away
OK
In addition, uh
I don't know if you know Xiaohongshu.
Xiaohongshu is actually
Well, some of his business practices
Also compare the horizontal screen long video of VLOG.
A little more, yeah.
So I think
In terms of such an input-output ratio
Maybe Xiaohongshu will cut some pictures and texts
It takes longer than you go.
Go and make some horizontal videos.
The commercial value it brings will be even higher
So will you develop slowly in Xiaohongshu?
Xiaohongshu has been doing it
I think it hasn't been long since I did it.
Then I also took some orders
In fact, there are some commercial monetization
But it's not that many.
I think in more traditional careers.
To develop
Then be able to, uh, make some more money
The direction of wealth freedom
Uh, so there are fewer VLOG shots.
Because I remember you saying before
What watermelon video?
These pairs
I've always wanted this to push a little more
Then let your wealth be free
Travel more
Then run like this with your wife
Right.
Can at least support the interests of both of you
Yeah, it feels temporary
It's hard for now.
But in fact, if I work now
I love that shirt on you.
Oops, I just said it was a Korean company.
It's second only to three stars.
The second largest chaebol company
Then we do chemicals
Do chemical materials in the direction of environmental protection
And it was pretty good.
Including work-life balance is also good
Although he is Korean
But not so curly
Haha, and then I'm more happy to do it.
But the chill in other countries
Then if you are transferred back to Korea, that one
The level of this volume is different.
Yes, you're right.
Yes, right?
Yes, because I know that in other countries
For example, Huawei
Right
If you come back here
To roll up the main headquarters
Huawei is different
Yes!
So if you go back to Korea, you know
This job
It's I think the nature will be different
Yes!
And you have to worry about the balance of work like that
follow
Yes
So I'm still considering it.
Haha, why don't you transfer your wife back?
Well it is
What if he comes?
You also need to find a job first
But you also know
Because now in fact, the employment environment for foreigners in Shanghai
In fact, it is not a foreign employment environment
Including Chinese college graduates
Or someone with experience
It's actually hard for them to find work
OK
So there are a lot of these objective effects, right?
OK
Humph
Or for now, let's develop on both sides
See which side is developing better
Yeah.
Then maybe my wife is doing better
I go hahaha
There's no problem
You can also, haha.
Are you guys looking for a place in the middle?
Like South East Asia
OK
Have you thought about it?
Uh, like what?
In fact, we had considered Canada before
Places like Australia or the United States
Uh but for us
What we learned
It's all from our own perspective
We will not have a consensus.
For example, I have the Canadian experience.
And I -- I see this feeling.
But what my wife sees is cold
Not much energy
No job opportunities
Canada is cold
Then he saw America
What Koreans See in America
It's different from what we Chinese see in America.
They will have a self
Your own filter?
What do they think of America?
I feel that, uh, there are many opportunities.
Then through hard work
You can achieve some of your ideal values
Is that so?
But actually uh uh
So we are going to the US in January
Get to know it all through travel
We'll see later.
Is there any better consensus?
Yeah you let me know when you come back
He imagined that America should
Now I'm doing our travel plan
And found wow
American is really expensive.
Yeah.
Everything is expensive
food, clothing, housing and transportation
Clothes may not be expensive
Clothes may not be expensive
But housing is really expensive
SOS version
Do you want to save a little bit on this aspect?
So are many of my friends
I feel that every time I go to America
You live in the cheapest monkey peach, it's expensive too
Yes, it is necessary to save this aspect.
The rest of it should be better
Because I think the food is okay
Food's no problem I think it's really too expensive to live
Huge cuts to your budget in half
Yes, yes.
Fly over
Basically, that's eighty percent
Then there are only a few that can be played at the back.
It's hard
And it will take us about half a month to go.
It's going to take a long time
You guys are considering finding an RV
In the van.
This is not yet available.
But we consider uh
Check out some Airbnb like this
But I should also rent another car
So the location will not be considered.
It's too convenient.
Just a little further
A little cheaper.
We rent a car
It should be better.
Especially around LA
I think live farther away
It's not a problem everybody drives so you just drive
You basically get it everywhere.
Yes, drive carefully
Hahaha OK.
Ok i guess I'll wait for you to come back
Then you let me know some of your thoughts on America
This time it is equivalent to talking about my return from Korea.
Some of the more one-sided views on Korea
Personal subjective thoughts
Right, so come back from America next year
We have time to talk about how I feel about Han
Some one-sided ideas about the objectivity and subjectivity of the United States
OK. Okay.
Thank you.
Bye. Bye.
大家好今天来的是Angus左左
又见面了
又见面了呀
上一次还还不错呀
上一次在上海
应该有两年了吧
对上一次
刚才来的路上看是2022年8月27号
long time ago
没错啊
你也经历了蛮多的
(00:29):
上次你的
其实
上次你的vlog不是叫现在的这个vlog
对啊
现在跟大家说一下
what happened
哈哈
因为之前的话
我拍vlog
主要是拍我和我老婆
的一些日常生活
包括旅游
一些东西
然后后面的话
呃就我也搬去韩国住了一年
(00:51):
然后就发现
有更大的世界等着我去探索
所以我就改了
改成叫做佐哥勇闯地球
而且而且
因为我也30岁了
所以叫左哥
哈哈哈
左左不适合了吗？
左左听起来比较小一点
十几二十岁的感觉哈哈
(01:13):
you know what
我们上次也聊过这个
我到现在我的entire family都还叫我斌斌
哦
是吗斌斌
even though我现在快40了
still斌斌
我就觉得家人没关系
那个当然哈哈哈
是
那现在呃
从那个时候到现在
你经历了真的不少
(01:33):
有两年然后也搬到韩国那边住
对
how was it感觉怎么样
我觉得还不错
对我来说
其实是一个很难得的一个体验
因为呃
最早去韩国是七年前 2017年
然后当时也是去旅游去见我的
呃当时是女朋友
(01:54):
嗯哼
呃但我觉得
旅游见到的韩国
和你实际在那边生活学习肯定不一样
体会到了
完全不一样
一样而且对我来说
去年也是因为我辞职之后
然后去那边
学重回学校
重回校园
去学习一个新的语言
(02:14):
所以我觉得哇
这个体验真的很难得呀
这个你学了一年
感觉你的韩语现在还有谁
你说几句吧
啊哈哈哈
你看谁哦
刚刚抄臭玉米的
哈哈哈
说的是什么
哈喽我说大家好
我是左超啊
(02:35):
你觉得你学了一年
能在韩国跟大部分人沟通吗
嗯我觉得可以
而且像我上一次
就上个月吧
上个月我回去韩国见我老婆
然后我有跟她说
我说呃
阔别一年我再来韩国
(02:56):
然后这个感觉很不一样
因为我二三年去的时候
那时候不会讲韩语
嗯就觉得一切都很陌生
然后我等我再去的话
然后我发现就是很熟悉
一切都变得很熟悉起来
嗯然后呢
也会讲了韩语
我可以自己去做很多
做更多的事情
right就觉得这个观感也是有一些变化
(03:18):
嗯嗯这好的变化吧
我觉得是好的变化
有很多回忆
嗯哈哈
啊我记得我第一次来上海的时候
也是来学中文啊
我跟我妹妹从美国基本上中文为零啊
人民广场
这四个字都基本上认不出的一个过程
然后到复旦大学学了三个月啊
(03:41):
三个月后我们稍微可以沟通
跟大部分路边的一些人可以you know
买一碗面
或是我俩不就可以比较舒服的在中国
没错然后我这一次
然后后面再来中国的时候
就真的是感觉
哦也现在要住在这边
it's different
(04:02):
没错
你觉得哪一些点是比较不一样的
旅游跟真的生活啊
区别在哪
嗯首先我觉得旅游的话
呃会集中在几个点啊
就比如说一些观光地
就是游客经常去的这些地方
但如果你生活在那边的话
(04:23):
你平时是完全不会去这些地方的呀
就举个例子说啊
首尔的明洞
大家都知道是一个就购物的地方呀
但其实本地人是不常去的呀
几乎也完全不去
但是每次有朋友来
如果在韩国他们来找我的话
一定要去
对带他们要去
但我觉得那边你看不到什么
(04:44):
真正的韩国人也是
都是游客
都是观光客对啊
我觉得跟上海是一模一样的
对啊
就啊我朋友
那好吧我们去一个豫园
我们去一个南京东路
没错没错
我平时i hate these places
哈哈哈
是人太多
人太多了
然后每天就是挤来挤去
(05:06):
i never wanna go
可是人家来
好吧那我们走一趟陆家嘴吧
就看一下东方明珠
然后哦OK
到了就旅游一定要去的地方
所以你说你觉得呢
这个这一年体验是
感觉怎么样呢
你what's the difference
(05:28):
就其实还有一点想补充一下
就是因为很多他们去韩国的人
都是因为KPOP
咿呀
是的
但其实我对KPOP就是原来完全不关心
就是不感兴趣这样
所以我看到的韩国
和喜欢KPOP的人看到的韩国
可能也不太一样啊哈
然后首先
对我来说
最大的一点差别是地形上的差别
(05:49):
就是之前我生活在上海
对上海是平的
这个三角洲是很平的
没有什么山啊
但是在首尔百分之六七十都是山
i didn't know that
真的吗真的
你你今天跟我说我也是吓一跳
10你说十朵山that's crazy
真的
首尔周边有十几座比较有名的一些山
(06:10):
啊哈然后我去年一年全都已经爬过
爬完对
我就感觉有
其实有点像香港
我觉得很多人不知道香港全部都是山
是啊你你半小时跑去一个地方
就有很美的一个山谷
没错
可以去徒步
我也是第一次听说
因为我了解的啊
(06:32):
香港都是就是城市
我以为就是一个大城市
对啊然后发现
哦其实很多nature啊
听说soul也是
是的
所以你为什么就选择就每个都要爬呢
就感觉
呃当时其实呃是这样的
就是我住的那边
是离首尔北边一个叫道峰山
道峰区有一个道峰山
(06:53):
嗯然后比较近
呃
然后每天我会在家从阳台看到这座山
从家看的时候觉得它很高
然后也很远耶
然后就想
我也不知道什么理由
想去爬到那个山顶啊
我想去征服它
想在山顶也看看我住的家right
(07:14):
这样这样这样这样的一个感觉
所以我就开始我爬了第一座山
嗯
呃
然后爬了不久
那个其实还好
因为说的山他不是很高
大概就几百米OK
但是路还是比较野一点
就不是像中国这样都是给你修好的
什么水泥台阶啊这样的东西
他都是比较原始一点
(07:35):
呃爬了大概四个小时吧
嗯
然后上下这样子
然后通过这个爬山
我认识了当地一个爬山的一个俱乐部
叫climbing in Korea啊
CIK简称CIK
然后他们就开
启了一个挑战
嗯
叫做啊首尔七七七座山挑战啊
(08:01):
然后就加入他们这个挑战
他们大概每周或者是隔两周
会有一次一起爬山的这样一个活动
呀所以呢
我通过这个活动
呃一方面爬山
另外一方面也认识了很多
不就不同国家
他们也工作生活在首尔啊
这样的一些一些朋友
就感觉呃
(08:22):
一个是运动
另外的话
通过这个运动也认识了很多朋友
也感觉还不错
嗯
我觉得很多来到中国的这些外国人
也是通过这些group
对
才能稍微生存下来
因为基本上你来到这边
外国人也没有那么多
(08:43):
从一个角度是百分比不是很多的
然后你要找到这些人
你要找到合适你的这些人是比较难的
所以我也是通过一些爱好
比如说柔术
攀岩这种
然后突然就可以meet new people
然后特别是像上海
像首尔也是
嗯
(09:04):
路过的这些人比较多
然后你就可以更好觅到这些人
至少我还是蛮喜欢
然后在柔术圈哦你是这个行业的
然后是这个国家的人
包括你
就可以觅到很多比较有趣的一些
啊你你这些人还keep in contact吗
还会对还有欧阳
(09:26):
会每次回去
你回去会不会跟他们再排一次
呃有时间的话会
而且像最近昨天
有那个Strava的一个年度总结
然后还post在我的那个朋友圈
还有那Instagram
我说
有一个给我点赞最多的一个朋友
是来自法国的一位一位黑人朋友
(09:46):
然后就我在Instagram然后tag他呀
然后他跟
我有了回复
我说下次等我去我们可以一起再爬呀
就联系还蛮多的
it's great我觉得这种运动的朋友真的是
我感觉会比较close一点
因为在特别是这种大城市
你在比如说在上海
就感觉朋友没有那么多
(10:07):
然后也没有很多机会可以更close
对啊你有一些similar的爱好会好很多
是
那你在韩国这些
还有什么一些别的group吗
嗯因为就是除了爬山以外
我之前还一直在跑步嘛
嗯所以我在韩国之后
也去寻找当地的一些跑团
Rony club
呃有一家跑团
(10:29):
有有一个跑团在收入很有名
嗯其实我没有去之前
已经从我老婆那边也听说过
叫PRC OK private road running club
OK
哈然后呃也是通过Instagram
然后给他们
给他们发私信我说
呃你们下次什么有有有活动
可不可以加入你们这样参加
(10:49):
当然我还那时候还不会韩语
然后发的是英文啊哈
他们非常欢迎
来自中国也非常欢迎
然后就跟他们一起跑了
呃首尔市中心视听附近的一条路
然后他们是环景福宫
你知道景福宫
类似于就是北京的故宫这样啊
(11:12):
但是要小很多
然后他们就从室町这边出发
然后环景福宫一圈
然后这样回来
第一次跟他们一起跑
呃
感觉体验上
和上海的一些running club
体验还蛮不同的呃
区别在哪
嗯
首先有一点就是
(11:33):
我觉得他们配速会快很多
哈哈哈
他们跑团的配速
平均配速比上海这边要快很多
OK
大概就是5
分多这样的样子
然后在跑的时候很有秩序
我觉得还有一点是很有秩序耶
嗯这个秩序体现在哪一方面
一方面是他们行进的路程中
(11:56):
比如说遇到窄路
你需要两人一对啊
他们真的是两人一对呀
很遵守这个规则
然后在行进的过程中
遇到对象过来的这个行人
嗯
在开头的两位会聚首
示意有新人要注意呀
然后新人来的时候会说不好意思啊
(12:19):
就垂缩哈密达
然后过去了之后再说
谢谢康斯哈密达他们
这个哇
我感觉就有点就是震撼的感觉
我觉得是一个礼貌的一个
对对对
yeah i like it
是嗯在喂hahaha
that's so funny
(12:40):
因为我也感觉到上海的这些running club
pushes in a running club
我一直觉得上海的running club
they're dating clubs
let's be real okay
我真的觉得上海就是it's just to be social
and it's for girls and boys to meet
这个这个很man
完全不是it's nice
(13:02):
只是一个side effect的一个东西
所以这边真的就是很熟手
他们主要不是为了跑步而跑步
是为了后面我们可以去喝酒吃汉堡
对whatever
就
我觉得这些running club的人
很多都不是真的喜欢跑步的
哈哈哈
这个我倒不是很清楚啊
(13:23):
啊你在上海没有running club吗
啊有
也有跟很多一起跑
今年在上海也是跑了很多
嗯然后就最大差别还是我刚才说的
速度比较慢嘛
然后跑的过程中可以就是聊天这样呀
你可是也有跑快的吧
也跑快了yeah
我觉得我朋友Calve上的时候
(13:44):
他是dark runners第二档
我最近也跟他们一起也跑
我觉得dark runners还有蛮多快的
一些朋友
没错然后他们也是认真在那边训练
准备备赛吗
没错所以我也想说
就是呃
其实Dr drunders和PRC他们是互相认识的
哦是吧
真的i didn't know that
所以哈哈
所以我觉得Dr还是真的
(14:07):
有几个人是真的很爱跑步的
没错
哎呀那你觉得嗯
上海这群人跑去maybe别的国家
他们应该expect什么呢
就如果你是一个跑步团的这边
然后在那边你应该准备一些
心理上准备一些什么
(14:27):
嗯我觉得也不太需要准备什么东西
因为呃
首先就说起跑步这一块的话
呃刚才你说的这个大Runner
嗯大Runner
和说的PRC
然后其实还有包括呃
美国的
呃是纽约还是哪里的
呃
(14:48):
bridge bridge
the gap还有什么
OK然后还有东京的AFE
就很多国家的这个跑团都认识
他们互相都有联系的
i see i see
然后也是
就是很纯粹
嗯哼
啊比如说这边有首尔马拉松呀
那么可能其他国家的人一起过来
来首尔跑步
那我们前几天会有一些跑步的活动啊
(15:10):
哈
就大家可以互相认识
这个认识也是就是了解不同的文化
right对
是非常好的一个途径
yeah
然后在跑比赛当天
然后也会就互相加油
嗯我们会提前通知
在多少公里有这样的一个加
油站go对
大家过去的话都会给你加油
(15:33):
都是英文吗
嗯英文可以啊
好
那如果
因为其实关于跑步的英文也还不多了
其实对吧
耶哈哈
然后如果不会英文的话
呃比如说PRC他们
其实有几位是会讲中文的
oh great that's what i wanted to know
有一位有一位女生
然后她跟我说
(15:54):
她之前在上海的复旦大学有读书cool
yeah
非常酷呀
就然后他现在就啊一直住在瘦
所以他可以做这个桥梁对对对
我也觉得这有这种人就是特别重要
是的因为比如说你在这边
你看到很多柔术馆
(16:14):
他们90%都是外国人
可是他们还是需要一两个
可以说叫community manager
嗯哼然后必须要会中文
必须要
就是你可以把大家就是bring together yeah
因为没有的话
那然后这个只会越来越少人
对啊对啊
所以你可以永远都欢迎不一样的国家
(16:34):
不一样文化的人
还是很重要的
是的
所以你觉得你到售如果你没有韩语
你能跟这些
嗯running club或是
当然都可以沟通
当然没问题
主要就是用英文
因为像我的话也是大概三个过程嗯
第一个过程是纯英文呀
(16:57):
因为那时候完全不会韩语嗯
然后后面知道有会讲中文的话
会英文加中文
嗯哼
然后再往后我的韩语开始学习
然后不讲中文
我讲韩文和英文
哈哈哈然后再往后面的话
哦我英文也不讲
我可以直接韩语跟他们大概讲一下
that's great你觉得这个过程需要多久
(17:19):
呃
其实基础的韩语
就你不考虑这个什么晋语啊
平语这样
他们会有一个这个
这种不同的尊尊敬体系
这个我知道
这个很复杂的
就是你想表表达你的意思的话
还是比较容易的
大概学4个月左右啊
(17:39):
差不多可以讲
然后他们也能理解
就是也不会在乎你是不是用了敬语
没有尊敬这样的感觉
无所谓我知道你什么意思
没关系
然后这些比较polite的韩语需要多久
嗯
其实我现在也还在继续在学
(18:01):
不过因为我觉得还是对还是不足啊
而且包括现在我回来
我去年回来上海入职的也是韩国公司
虽然我们公司不要求你会韩语
我们公司英文沟通
但如果你会韩语当然更好
因为毕竟领导层都是韩国人
对
所以你觉得这个就需要花a lot more time
(18:21):
对我觉得一直要学
包括其实也像中文一样
不是每年会有一些新的
什么网络用语什么的
韩国也是一样
每年会有一些新的词
他们自己造出来的字呀
很有意思
我也觉得
我最近我都感觉到很多年轻人
我是不能跟他们沟通的
(18:41):
哈哈就是因为网上的一些词对
然后他们自己发明的like
普通话我OK
然后normal的沟通也应该OK
可是我感觉你
我说的普通话跟你说的完全两码
what
然后就听他们这样子沟通
有我
有的时候这些00后i'm lost就completely lost
(19:04):
嗯感觉他们的世界跟我的世界
就是有太大的代沟这种
是的
那你会推荐
比如说我在中国就先说中文吧
我应该怎么办
就是完全不跟他们沟通也是不可能的
嗯
这个我觉得要看你会有没有一个
(19:26):
就是接受新鲜事物的一个想法
嗯但其实对我来说
呃我在互联网方面
我觉得我是一个老人呀
就是我在互联网
我不愿意接受一些什么太新的东西呀
什么抖音什么
我其实对
我也不喜欢这种什么短视频
(19:47):
所以这些东西
我有的时候就觉得他们聊着一些
不管是话题或是他们的
就语言方面我就很lost
就有的时候我很难跟他们
我也是这样
选一个you're not even that
oh you're not even that
对我来说也这样
啊哈哈哈
别说你了
(20:07):
哈哈哈
那你不会觉得
就这沙里就很分裂了吗
就你
以前我觉得我可以跟年纪比我大很多
跟比我小很多的人都能沟通
嗯哼然后现在我要考虑到代购
就每一个
都不一样
对00后90后吧
(20:29):
都不一样了现在
然后就这个沟通的门槛变越来越高
对更不要说你现在就是年龄有问题
然后你的地区OK
我是美国
然后跟中国又有一个分裂
就你能沟通的就变现在变得越来越小
对
II don't know what to do
(20:50):
你有没有想过这个就是
其实我觉得就是现在大家在说一个词
叫信息减防呀
你有知道这个意思吗
我听说过
就虽然是说互联网啊
大家想要互联
但其实现在是每个人有自己的信息
建房你就在自己的建房里面
然后不会去了解到别人的
(21:11):
嗯哼他们每天看的每天想的呀
不会去了解到
所以你觉得怎么破开这个解放呢
这个我觉得还蛮难的
嗯因为你会想吗还是你觉得这样子
就这就是我的舒适区
我就活在这边也不错了
我会去想了解的呀
我也是我会去想了解可是怎么跳出呢
(21:34):
你觉得
嗯
我觉得还是要多接触人
先接触到人的话应该会有解决的
好解决的好办法吧
我我尽量
就是用这个电台
或是用我的一些对你这个很好的办法
然后找一些人拉过来然后跟他们聊
(21:55):
因为有一些人真的跟我想法就totally
totally different
然后你在这边你是人吗哈哈
what what's going on
所以有的时候我们沟通的时候
我就在那边
就像完全不一样的世界
跟更想不出
你知道我们都活在上海
(22:17):
可是你的体验跟我的体验不一样
对然后你跑去搜应该更不一样
对所以what are the big differences
你觉得在上海跟在
啊韩国在首尔
你觉得最大的一些区别在哪儿
嗯
(22:38):
因为都是大城市
呃还有个
还有个感受是
我觉得其实对比来讲就是soar
他的外国人占比会更高一些
都不管是生活在那边还是观光客
嗯他外国人的占比会更多一些
所以显得会比较国际化一点
(23:00):
嗯所以在那边生活的话
你作为一个外国人就
虽然虽然中国人和他们长得差不多
不不会太有这种就是
嗯就怎么说
就比如说
一个外国人在中国的话
可能还是会有一点引人注目的感觉
(23:20):
啊但
是你在soar的话
不会太有引人注目的感觉
感觉是这样的
一个就你比较容易去融入
嗯哼你不是一个特别的存在
对呀
这样的感觉
可是你也是长一个亚洲脸
对他们会不会第一
第一反应就是你会韩语
哈哈哈呃
(23:42):
这个我老婆跟我说
我说韩语第一句话的话
对方就能听出来我不是
我不是韩国人耶
就比如我只说你好
安妮啊see you啊
我觉得
我已经说的很接近他们韩国人的发音
对但是我老婆说
韩国人只要一听这一句话
就知道你不是韩国人那样
哈哈哈啊
(24:03):
因为我前几天在跟朋友聊天
然后他说他也有个
我们也有个韩国朋友
嗯哼
我们坐在一个新疆餐厅
服务员就一直对着他说中文
啊因为他是中国人
因为他脸就感觉是亚洲人
然后别的都是外国人
(24:24):
所以他们就一直对这个亚洲脸说中文
然后他就在那边蒙了就听不懂
我完全听不懂
就在那边一直在摇头
可是因为我也感受到
我一来中国的时候
他们第一反应就是
你长得这个中国脸啊
肯定会中文啊
然后我再念no
(24:44):
一点都听不懂
一句都听不懂
哈哈然后就
他们就想象不到不了你是no Chinese
对啊
然后我不知道在韩国看到你
第一反应就是why
Don't you speak
的那种感觉没有
这个好像没有
嗯这种感觉没有了
因为我去年在那边
其实是以学生的身份呀
(25:05):
就一直在每天去学校上语言课
这样的感觉
所以以学生身份来讲的
话我觉得还是蛮容易融入的
嗯nice
呃
因为都比较多是国外过来在学韩语的
对对
像我们老师是就是韩国人
嗯然后他面对的学生也是
(25:26):
虽然大部分还是来自中国了
但是其他各国家里都有啊
所以我觉得作为学生这个角色
去融入一个新的国家
确实是一个很快捷
很便捷的一个方式
就觉得没有太多的门槛对于我来讲
而且我表面是一个学生
然后背后还有韩国的老婆
(25:47):
所以我觉得好像没有太大的
这个融入的过程
很快就融入了耶
可是你不觉得
因为我在这边的体验就是我很快能
表面的融入
可是我觉得中国还是很排斥你
如果不是中国人
(26:08):
还是很会有一个门槛的
韩国我听说更有
因为我也感觉到我来到这边
一开始的时候哦就很easy进来了
可是是有一个天花板的
对对
就中国人还是觉得no你不是我们的
这个的话一定会有呀
(26:31):
呃就像你说的你了解到的
确实韩国人他们很喜欢自己抱团呀
如果你是外国人的话
他们核心的圈子你肯定是融入不了的
嗯但是就你日常生活而言的话
你去融入
我觉得这个门槛还是比较低的呀
就是他门槛比较低
当然天花板相对的也是比较低一点
(26:53):
对呀
是这样的感觉
你觉得这个天花板是能破的吗
嗯
就其实我不太了解
但是我接触到了一些
比如说在韩国生活的中国人呀
呃就生活很多年的
我感觉他们是没有融入啊因为
(27:13):
我不知道首
先他们是想融入还是不想融入
that's what i want to know
对吧这是第一点
对就是因为看到他们的一个现状呢
就是还是在和当地的中国人一起去玩
这样子但是我的话呢
我是想和当地的人呀
呃当地的中国人当然也有
(27:34):
当然当地的韩国人或者其他国家的人
我是想去了解他们的right
所以
我是有这样一个主动去融入的心理呀
那像对其他的这个在韩的中国人
他们有没有起初的这样一个动机
和心理我不了解
但看到的现象是
他们还是比较喜欢自己在一起这样
(27:54):
嗯啊艾米
你看上海你也可以感觉到
对就是法国人全部都在一起
然后就大家都还是分的
说在一起也是在一起
可是也是到最后
你的close friends
基本上都是你的国家的人
或者你的地区的人
对啊你跑去美国的一些学校
(28:17):
你看到那些留学的中国人
全部都是抱团的印度人
全部都是在一起的
都因为那是你的舒适区嘛
对你就觉得哦
我跟他们的沟通的门槛就是0
我还是可以跟他们说继续说中文
我有的时候觉得这是不对的
就你跑去一个新的国家
(28:38):
你也是你应该多享受这个国家的
当地的一些文化
对我是这样的想法
都不是这样做
然后我来到这边
我现在大部分朋友
也都是中国这边的朋友
而不是外美国的
或是美就比较少
(28:59):
我的感觉就是
我想融入到这边的一些一个
可是我还是感觉到
他们会给你一个天花板就
觉得你不是我们的
然后这个天花板就很难破
至少在中国
我觉得真的觉得很难破啊
最简单的就是
我在美国
很多朋友都会说
this is my Chinese friend Arthur
(29:20):
这是我中国朋友art
哈哈哈no problem
小的时候我
我没有那么在意
来到这边的时候哦
这是我美国朋友Arthur啊
就你还是把你排到外面去啊
就你为什么要加这是我美国朋友
为什么我为什么不支持你朋友呢
嗯
(29:41):
这首先呃
我想说就是我和你的想法是一样的
比较想去融入或者体验嗯
这个不同的国家不同的种族的文化呀
呃但像你后面说这种
比较刻意的去强调哪里来的这种
我好像还没有体验到啊
还没有体会到
(30:02):
他们不会说这是我中国朋友
还应该是
对这个好像不会啊
嗯
但可能虽然没有说
但是大家能感觉到right
那我我第二个话题就是你
如果我没有直接说出来对
可是你也感觉到
嗯
(30:23):
我给你我的贴吧
我在中国
有的时候我的上海朋友会不maybe
自然而然换成上海话
啊哈
然后我我的感受就是
你不想让我听到你说的
(30:43):
或是你不想让我全部了解
会有你就上话
啊哈
然后我就觉得why
你知道这个东西是我听不懂的
我已经站在这边
我没认哈哈
可是你就又switched
有礼貌的一些朋友会转回你说普通话
嗯
but
(31:05):
有的时候就会switch
然后就你为什么这样
就就感觉你是
我不知道你是不是故意的
有一些人我觉得
确实是故意的
嗯哼but
就这个天花板却硬放在你面前
you're done你
这个是你的新的门槛
可是我不让你进
(31:25):
有一点annoy对我来说
明白了
那通过你说的这个点也可以了解到
打破这个天花板有一个方法
就是语言
yeah for sure
如果你完全掌握对方的语言
包括上海话也好
英文也好
韩文也好
你语言没有这个问题的话
天花板会上升很多
(31:46):
没错你觉得你因为比较会啊韩语
我没有很会其实
可是你比普通人会一点
那你可能就天花板就一直会往上
还有一点就
语言只是第一步
我觉得就是第一个台阶
嗯
是你踏向更高天花板的第一个台阶
那当然后面还有
你是否去了解过他们的一些文化背景
(32:10):
他们的历史啊
他们现在流行的文化
或者是当然
如果你们有共同的兴趣爱好
这也是一个台阶
嗯让你的天花板更高一点
对呀所以我觉得
嗯如果你想去融入的话
呃你是需要主动去做很多事情的呀
当然对方的善意
(32:31):
那个是比较客观的一个原因是不是
所以你觉得韩国还是偏难
嗯
首先对方的善意
我觉得是有
嗯这个善意的占比很大
really就是对方其实是欢迎的
啊
那么所以的话
就是你主观的问题呀
(32:51):
你是否有去努力学习right
或者想要去了解
其实我最近我看了很多
就是关于呃
韩国的历史
嗯
包括就是近代的这个独立历史也好
然后还有就是呃
之前的朝鲜王朝
这些我有去专门去看很多
你觉得我会有帮助吗
(33:13):
我觉得蛮有意思的其实
interesting
我从来不会聊这些东西
所以我就比较不会去学习这些东西
我平时聊的就是攀岩
对
我的兴趣爱好对
这也是一个方法
啊呀
然后我呢
在这个领域跟人本地人沟通会好很多
(33:33):
对就感觉我会close一点
对
可是我个人还是感觉到在
在中国
有很多人会把门槛就是放在那边
就是故意不让你进我这个圈子
嗯
(33:54):
就不知道索尔那边你有没有这种感受
嗯还是maybe你的老
因为有一个韩国的一个老婆
会有一个通道
我觉得这也是一个通道
嗯然后另外我刚才考虑说这可能也
呃是时代变化的一个问题吧
(34:16):
interesting okay
因为中国就是很久以前
大家也是比较邻里之间
互相关系都很好
这样但是随着社会发展
包括城市化的一些进展
像我们从其他地方来到上海耶
我们现在住的邻居是谁我也不知道耶
(34:37):
完全也不会去认识
就大家都是陌生人这样子
所以有这个时代发展的一个背景在
嗯啊也会造成这样的一个隔阂
或者是一个圈子的一个存在
嗯但也不能说这个是好还是不好
我觉得
啊interesting
(34:58):
嗯对
我觉得也有双方面的
对啊
啊
你保持一个圈子也是很重要
你让谁进来
让应该是有一点门槛的
对
可是我有的时候觉得
maybe是礼貌上面
我就感觉很i don't know upset
(35:18):
就是我也想进啊
然后我也出了我的这个诚意
我想在这个圈子
no you're on the outside
这种感觉我偶尔会遇到
然后会有一点upset
明白
嗯那我换个话题你觉得在韩国啊
(35:40):
吃应该是问题不大
哈哈
这个我觉得可以聊的还蛮多的
够会
就是其实来讲
我在韩国一年我是有瘦一些
就是因为不习惯吗
也不是不习惯啊
分两种一种是学校的食堂餐
另外的话
是在外面和家人朋友一起吃的
(36:02):
这种韩餐
呃首先对比中国来讲的话
最大差别就是种类会比较少一些
种类少很多
我在那边天天想吃火锅羊肉串什么
虽然也有也有但大概两倍贵的价格
对
然后学校餐的话
(36:22):
每天虽然也在变一些花样
但我感觉差异都不大嗯
呃
就包括说肉也好都有
蔬菜也都有但我觉得差别还是不大
他们烹饪的方式相对来说
还是比较少一些
嗯
要么就是各种酱加在里面煮或者炒
(36:44):
嗯嗯
这是一个学校餐另外的话
在校外和家人朋友吃的
这一边的话
我觉得种类我老婆觉得可能很多
但是每次她问我想吃什么
我觉得我说不出来
很多我觉得还是就那几种
(37:05):
烤肉
然后什么部队火锅然后冷面什么的
我觉得种类很少所以我很难选
你觉得你在那边最最想吃的是哪一个
你说羊肉串跟火锅
如果你韩餐吗
(37:25):
呃不中餐
中餐就
如果你很想家你会真的craving
什么东西
因为我北方人
嗯其实我最想吃的是面呀
当然是北方的面啊
然后那边我记得是有一家炒面或汤面
都可以我prefer炒面啊
干的有
(37:46):
有一个就是兰州的这样一个面馆
嗯然后里面会有炒面
如果我想吃的话我会去
嗯然后另外我会自己做
哈哈哈
这也是一个方法
就在那边
其实呃还做饭的次数还蛮多的
嗯就对比在上海生活的时候
因为上海又便宜又方便
(38:07):
也不会想去自己做在那边的话
因为吃不到
然后我就自己去买
去超市买
然后自己在家做啊
包括炒面我也自己做一下
也觉得嗯还不错
我第一年在中国
我十几年前
我很想家的时候
(38:27):
我会想吃苹果泥
嗯啊apple sauce
这个是我从小就爱的一个东西
然后我会去进口超市
一罐apple sauce
我记得那个时候35-40块钱这一罐
在美国一块一刀
哈哈然后在这边卖5刀
(38:48):
6I was like what
然后第一反应就是我自己来
第一反应就是苹果泥也就那几样东西
放进去你就自己做吧
然后就买出去
买了几个烂比较烂的苹果
然后打碎煮一下
放一点肉桂
我就可以OK了
(39:08):
可以吃了
可是那个时候我就吓一跳
我说我那么想家
我也没有花6倍的价格
那么想家就说不过去
那个时候
所以我也感觉到
我很多在这边的外国朋友
他们会更擅长自己做饭
(39:28):
对
因为你真的想家的时候
你去我去一个汉堡店
或者去一个地
有的时候你那个味道就是不对
就他们还是有一点本地话的对
把你的东西改良了
所以你吃到的
你就感觉
好像也没有hit到我的那个点
嗯哼所以我我还是自己做
吧我自己学
(39:50):
所以我完全理解你在家里
嗯
然后你你学会自己做你想要吃的东西
然后很推荐我那些朋友跑去别的国家
比较self sufficient
你自己能做你想吃的东西会舒服很多
(40:12):
对yeah
而且你去做自己想吃的东西
这个过程也是快乐的
你看然后你还可以分享给那边的人
说提出我们是这样做的
而不是你的那个什么快餐店
对it's terrible
你为什么在吃这个汉堡
it's so gross
可是他们就觉得
哦这个汉堡就是应该这个味道
(40:34):
有时候我就what are you doing
那吃的方面
你觉得比较单一我也是同意的
嗯
我一直觉得韩国菜就那几个就那几个
味道
是
你瞅
要么辣酱要么是大酱
哈哈哈
你的老婆有没有解释给你
(40:55):
她为什么感觉很丰富很多多样
嗯
就其实我也可以说出来就是呃
在韩国虽然国土比较小
但他们不同的城市
也会有一些独特的饮食存在
比如说
呃如果吃拌饭
(41:16):
那么最有名的是泉州拌饭
OK
在南部一点的城市
然后炒鸡在首尔东北边有个叫春川啊
这边的炒鸡非常有名
然后还有一些地方
呃
议政府市
那边是部队火锅的一个发源地
所以就是他们这个
(41:38):
每个饮食都有一个他们所谓最原本
最正宗的一个地方
你不觉得中国也有吗
对中国也是啊
所以他们觉得就是还是蛮多的
可是就我感觉就是那几个酱料
然后那几个发酵方式
只是用的东西稍微不一样一点
(41:59):
可是味道
都是一样的
对差不多
哎我不understand
就是有一些人跟我说
他们特别喜欢韩国料理
yeah韩国料理is great
我很喜欢烤肉
嗯我也一样
but
every day你一直吃这个味道
有的时候我感觉are you sure
这个真的有不一样吗
你真的吃出来不一样吗
(42:21):
i'm not sure
因为我我感觉我吃不出来
what do you think
我也觉得
就是烤肉的话
要么是肉的种类不同
要么是肉的部位不同
那么蘸料的话
还是差不多的
就那几个
对啊
会不会觉得在中国你被宠坏了
(42:41):
就有那么多不一样的美食
有可能我记得很清楚
就是我去年12月刚回上海的时候
然后我开始吃火锅
然后吃各种省的菜
我说中国有三十几个省
如果每天吃一个省的菜
我可以吃一个月月
哈哈哈great right
太夸张了
yeah
(43:02):
就有的时候
我感觉这边真的把我宠坏了
就你随时你要找什么东西都能吃到
对啊
amazing就永远都有新的东西出来
incredible中国真的就地区那么大
然后每个地方确实就是不一样
是的
有的时候
我吃不出重庆跟成都的火锅的区别
(43:26):
可是有一些人吃出来
maybe i can whatever
可是基本上每个地区都有比较特色
对比较特色
没错
所以有的时候我就
人家说中餐
我喜欢吃中餐
我说你can't say that哈哈哈
哟
太多了
对呀太多了
你说韩国料理II
(43:47):
get it
大概就长得那个样子哈
你说日料
我稍微也蛮蛮丰富的
可是日料我可以understand
大概你是什么意思
你中餐基本上就是all of this
太多了就太多了
然后很多中国人就会说我喜欢吃西餐
(44:07):
哈哈
也是很多
我就觉得你你说的太太太广了
太泛泛了呀
啊那还有什么一些cultural的不一样吗
你感觉到
嗯
我特别想聊一下就是这个礼貌方面的
(44:28):
就是高低的这个东西
哦礼貌方面啊确实
呃我觉得受这个影响
我有一个很大的改变
就是我现在特别喜欢点头
就很像韩国人就喜欢这样点头一下
就他们也是表示尊敬的方式
就包括呃
你去一个便利店
(44:50):
刚进去收银员会会给你打招呼
然后也会点头
然后买好东西你走之后也会
就是点头致意一下我觉得
呃这个这个礼貌
我觉得我们真的还是可以学习一下
嗯
就包括陌生人之间在街上啊
(45:12):
当然
但是这个和北美的那种还不太一样
我觉得北美的话直接会跟你问好呀
但他们的话就是点到为止
我就点头示意一下就好
嗯我觉得这个还很微妙
你觉得是可学的
因为这边比较少这样做对吧
(45:33):
嗯对我觉得
呃给你感受是什么呢
就是好像他有看到我的存在
嗯他有认可我的存在呀
然后展示了他的善意
向我展示了他的善意
嗯这样子
但是在中国的话
更多的大家可能就是我看不到你
(45:55):
我无视你
这样一个感觉
就是会很远
嗯
可能一个很小的一个动作
就会让人觉得很近这样的一个感觉
我哎呀我说到我一开始
来上海的时候
我记得最清楚的时候是
我在找人民广场
然后我可能在南京路附近吧
(46:19):
可是我在找人民广场
然后我进了一个便利店
便利店的这个老叔叔老阿姨我也忘了
就说往那边走啊
一句话就我说
我问人民广场
就这样
也没有
具体没有跟我说
(46:40):
那我就下一个一模一样的动作
嗯哈哈哈
我就感觉你就告诉我几条路吧
至少你给我一个something
什么都没有就嗯嗯嗯那边
我就很i didn't know how to feel
那个时候我就感觉如果是我
(47:01):
很冷漠
对很冷漠
就感觉你很不欢迎我
你就告诉我几条路
你往那边走两条
那边走几条something
可是你什么都不给我
你就给我一个
一个方向你就
哇我就
那个时候我真的很崩溃
我就感觉到自己
(47:22):
你这我感觉没有被尊重到
因为我是想我很礼貌的问你人民广场
对然后你就是呃
话都没有跟我说的那种感觉
所以我很understand你这种
不只是点了一个头
至少给你打了个招呼
(47:43):
there's something就可以拉近距离
对我还是蛮喜欢的
我也是
我感觉到至少日本
其实泰国特别热
热情就这种
几个地方就感觉到哦
你还是care到我的对
在这边我有的时候感觉就没有
可能是人太多
or something的这种感觉
就是you don't care why it's very
(48:08):
对我来说是比较拉远距离对
而不是拉近距离对啊
方向就是错的
一个是我推开你的感觉
另外一个是我主动把你拉过来
然后尊重你一点
对right
i think it's important
可是这个高低的你还没有说到
就是你是哥吗
(48:29):
欧巴这种的
i don't understand这个这个
这种关系你能解释一下吗
这个
你能understand吗
我可以OK
这个其实我觉得有一点难啊
就包括你叫怎么称呼你的朋友
首先的话
他们自我介绍的时候喜欢
喜欢
(48:50):
就是说自己的年龄就是哪一年生的
这样容易确认你是哥还是弟
你是姐还是妹
对然后在韩语里面的话
男生叫的哥和女生叫的哥是不一样的
包括男生叫的姐和女生叫的姐
也是不一样的
OK就完全不一样的单词
(49:11):
说一下
呃男生叫姐是Luna OK
女生叫姐是欧尼
欧尼okay
女生叫哥是欧巴
呃
男生叫哥是hum
就有点像中文的凶啊
所以完全不一样
然后另外如果你是和朋友在一起
(49:32):
第一次和朋友在一起的话
如果是你第一次见的朋友
你会叫他们什么什么名字
加西啊就有点像日语什么什么加sun
对
然后稍微亲近一点的话可以去掉名
叫某夕
嗯
左西这样左西
(49:52):
哎
我理解对
如果再亲近一点的话
姓和西也不要了
可以叫名字
比如说我叫左朝
这个朝朝
对可以直接叫朝
他们会有这样一个递进的一个感觉呀
随着你们亲密度
呃也可以
但一般这样跳的话
(50:13):
是对方主动可以说的
嗯就说你可以直接叫我什么什么
这样子呀
他觉得我们已经很关系很好
我们很亲近了
你可以直接叫我什么什么啊
也不用叫我哥或什么
你记得叫我名字好
这样也可以的
你觉得年轻人会比较
还是很尊重这个吗
还是开始离开
(50:34):
还是在做
还是在做对
why就我很喜欢这种
就是你的传统还在保留
因为我觉得很多传统
特别是美国越来越少
这个淡的很快
可是有一些地方
比说意大利
我觉得意大利很多
那些老意大利的一些传统
(50:57):
就还保持了很久
年轻人也还是觉得
这个就应该是这样做
嗯可是有一些国家
我主要说的是我看到美国
就感觉很多传统就根本就不存在
叫i don't need this
我能减少就减少
能直接就直接
所以我感觉到特别是在美国
(51:19):
没有什么传统
那那然后有一些国家
比如说韩国
比如说日本
他们年轻人还是在做
老一辈在做着
更老一辈在做
就是传的很深
为什么韩国能做得出来这样的
就韩国这种尊卑的这种观念的话
(51:41):
我觉得有点根深蒂固
嗯
就是包括最早他们受儒学影响
当然也不是说儒学不好
儒学有他很好的一面
就觉得就我认为
在他们看来就这个长幼是
(52:02):
亘古不变的
嗯
就是你比我年长的话
我肯定是要尊敬你这样
他们没有觉得这个是不好的东西
嗯哼他们觉得是正常的
也不也不是好的东西
就正常的东西
就应该是要流传下去
这样一个感觉我觉得
嗯
但是我这样认为我
我不知道他们具体怎么样认为
(52:24):
包括可能每个人认为不一样
我记得我小的时候叫老师永远都
是Mister然后他的姓名
嗯哼Mister Robinson
Mister whatever
然后我看到现在
有特别是在YouTube上
你就会看到一些小孩直接叫first name啊
(52:46):
就hey look
然后就
我感觉到美国很很喜欢push这个boundary
就大部分
我们从小我也以为这个一直不会变的
嗯哼
可是it's changing
就是感觉到这些年轻人更想看
这个极端到底在哪
(53:08):
这个边缘到底在哪
我能叫吗
啊他们想去试探这个边
我觉得美国很喜欢这样
就是what's up Luke
what's up Mr呃
就不会叫Mr Robin
只会叫直接就叫first name
然后就这个很不礼貌诶
可是我觉得美国就没有这个
(53:29):
就没有这个rule
就是说这个是必须要的
我小的时候我觉得是有的
嗯
我一定不会叫我老师的first name
一定不会
就感觉这个是一个尊重
对
可是新一代好像就they don't care so much
他们没有这个骨子里面
觉得这个是必须要做的
(53:50):
明白
and i don't understand这个
这个是哪里来的
为什么他们没有
觉得这个是很重要的一个东西
可是你像你说的就在韩国
我觉得在日本也是
就这个在骨子里面的就是的
对是的
就why这次有没有想过
(54:11):
我有想
就是可能我们认为这个是礼貌嗯
但是在一些就现在的小孩子
他们可能认为
他们是在打破一个权威呀
他们是更具有挑战性的
这样一个感觉
就可能我们认为的这个
(54:32):
同样的一个东西
定义已经不一样
了嗯
我们定义他是礼貌是传统呀
他们定义的是封建是权威啊
你在压制我
对所以我们还是遵守
我们认为好的东西
但他们已经认为这个是过时的啊
需要去打破的
(54:53):
需要去挑战的
所以我觉得还是认知的不一样
make sense
因为我觉得确实如果你去看maybe
他们就觉得现在的社会很不尊重他们
所以那我为什么要尊重这个社会
对然后可能比较好的一些地方
(55:14):
可能就觉得
哇我们现在过得蛮好的
那为什么要打破
anything就继续这样子下去吧
啊
我感觉到以前的意大利真的是他们的
比如说做面的方式
他们就很死板
就this is the only way to do it的那种感觉
and it's delicious
确实this is the best我为什么要改变
(55:36):
right然后就i understand
就是有一些东西传下来
因为已经有那么长的一个历史
都一直这样做
and that's maybe the best way就一直这样做
no problem嗯哼
可是我一直感觉到
美国就是不是这种国家
就let's see let's see
if i can change it make it make it different
(55:58):
make it better不一定better
but就一直有那种心态
像challenge一下我
到现在我在中国
我有的时候也有
我就想看到底你的你的底线在哪
哈哈
然后很多中国人就很反感我这样
可是我可能脸皮厚
(56:19):
i don't really care
因为其实像美国来讲的话
因为他也是一个文化的熔炉呀
不断有新
的移民
各个国家不同文化背景的移民
嗯
进来就一定会带来很多新的东西
素的话
毕竟他们主要的国民
还是就是他们所谓的韩民族
(56:40):
嗯这样一个构成
但是美国的话
用白人还是算60%
但也是多很多不同国家来的
包括创普
他们不是德裔吗
对德国过来
这样子
所以我觉得他和这个国家
国家的一个文化背景还是有一点影响
(57:03):
在
你你怎么形容韩国的国家的人民
你会用几个词
从我的角度保守
保守是一个
但我刚才想说
就我想说是其实不幸
OK
(57:24):
就我觉得他们不是很幸运的
嗯interesting悲观吗
我是觉得有点悲观
嗯
呃这个怎么讲
就从首先
首先从地理方面来讲
他们的这个位置
呃not great
对yeah not great
真的不好
而且左右上啊
(57:47):
都是演都是制衡的强国
嗯哈哈
呃
所以我觉得这个民族还是有点不幸
嗯
但是我觉得另外一方面
虽然第一个词我给的是不幸
但第二个词是坚坚毅坚忍
(58:08):
就他们没有这个
被步行压倒
嗯
还是一直在
所谓的反抗也好
包括最近他们也是在呀抗议
是的
所以我觉得
虽然在这样一个很大的压力
和很大的一个不幸之下
他们还是在在反抗的
(58:28):
嗯
在美国的韩国人我觉得是很很proud
就我是韩国人
很喜欢我是韩国人这个feeling II
我我觉得没有问题
因为我在觉得
在美国的中国人都没有这么proud
哦
可是
美国的韩国人真的就是Koreans are the best
(58:51):
就是那种感觉
是一个完全很站出来的一个一个culture
我觉得很多中国人就是低下头
我只是来这边读书的
我不那么care什么中国人外国人
我就是来这边读书就比较
一个人在那边暂住
嗯哼
可是韩国人在美国
(59:12):
我感觉到就是他们会团结起来
在美国韩国人就是他们是一个group
在美国的中国人
有的时候就是我一个人在这边就搞
然后而且我我需要吃东西
我找一个中餐会
但是我是一个独立的一个存在
(59:32):
就没有一个团
没有比较没有一个团结的一个feeling
是的这方面他们确实还很团结一样
去去anywhere都感觉他们是很团结
然后会work together
maybe自几个韩国人就开一个韩国餐厅
开一个韩国的一个地方
对就
还是他们出来的时候
是group的一个能力
(59:56):
对然后有的时候
我觉得
中国人就没有这个group的一个心态
是的
而且其实像很多中国人通过互联网
呃得到的认知
让他们就觉得韩国是有一些刻板印象
所存在的
比如说就是左右在大国之间
(01:00:19):
这样一个一个形象
但其实呃当然肯定也会有
但是客观来讲的话
毕竟他们是啊
一个小国没有那么多的资源
嗯所以一定是当下的最优解就是联盟
(01:00:40):
嗯或者是怎么样
of course
必须要
对啊可是他们也manage做出
比如说KPOP
对对吧KPOP从韩国突然爆发出来
now it's everywhere
这种文化方面的真的interesting
然后那个是章鱼游
戏i forget what to call
对对对
也是career game出来的
(01:01:02):
就突然这种
文化方面爆发出来
然后Koreans就很proud说这个是我们做的
是的这个feeling我能理解
我能理解你为什么这么proud
it's it's cool
it's a cool feeling
文化影响力
yeah你觉得他们what's coming up
从从韩国
(01:01:23):
你觉得你后面能看到一些嗯
比如说什么文化方面的爆发吗
嗯这个其实有一个很有意思一个点
就是我呃
刚到那边去学韩语的时候
嗯我们班上有不同的国家的人
我有做过一个采访
OK就问他们为什么来韩国学学
学习韩语
(01:01:44):
我觉得这个是一个很有意思的一个点
首先不可否认的是
大部分女生
她们的原因都是kpop
不管是中东的也好
俄罗斯的也好
就是他们一些白人脸
他们也是因为kpop来想学
对包括东南亚
越南泰国
嗯都是因为kpop
(01:02:06):
然后另外的话
他们觉得韩国是一个发达的国家
其实也确实是一个发达的国家
对于他们来讲就那么小
你发达的比较快
对
所以他们觉得是来学习一些先进的
对他们来讲是先进的东西
嗯所以他们愿意来学韩语
到这边来留学
(01:02:26):
对是这样的一个想法
这个觉得对我来说
还是我之前没有想到过的
包括他们影响力到东欧
中东这样的一些国家
我之前是没有想到的
that's interesting
那他们也看到比如说三星这种大公司
对是很有机会的嘛
就可以发展的一些对方向
(01:02:48):
那make sense wow k pop so big
是的
that's crazy我想象不了
就是能影响到那么多人跑去韩国
去学习韩语
你觉得有很多人因为Anime
动漫跑去日本去学日语吗
you think so i don't know i'm curious
(01:03:11):
Anime有KPOP那么大吗
应该有吧
嗯
首先Anime我觉得它历史更更长一点
包括其实我们小时候在中国也看
对也看日本的动漫
但
现在的发展的话
我觉得enemy它走的越来越小
(01:03:33):
小众
对越来越小众
但它是小而精的
就比如说二次元的一些
包括什么动漫展
但我作为不接触的人
我觉得可能我不去
不会去了解到太多的东西
但是像KPOP的话
真的是有一种出圈的感觉呀
包括最近很火的那个阿帕特APP
(01:03:55):
哦买噶那个那个
那个歌一听到哈哈哈whole day都在唱对
很洗脑哎
很洗脑就哎呀i hate it
我一我第一次看听到i loved it
然后现在听多了
还再也不要听这首歌了
我也觉得
我现在觉得反而那个副歌更好听呀
(01:04:15):
哈哈哈所以
你觉得这个东西
就是已经变worldwide的一个东西了
嗯我觉得是
我也可以感觉到
even Squid game
Squid game出来的时候怎么everybody knows
this TV show我是i was shocked
因为没有英文
(01:04:35):
全部都是subtitle
他说OK大家都愿接受这个东西
因为足够拍的足够好
是他就愿意接受
subtitle也很新颖
对啊i was我真的很impressed
马上scream game秒出2了really
真的马上
very soon
所以你后面的一些啊
韩国计划是什么呢
(01:04:57):
嗯因为其实现在的话
我和我老婆就分隔两地嘛
因为工作的关系
我虽然是韩国公司但是是在上海办公
然后我老婆的话现在还是在首尔呃
也是在工作
嗯所以现状的话是分开
然后我大概一个月去一次
(01:05:19):
后面的话我觉得
嗯
如果我有能力
就是在韩国也可以赚到钱
就养活我们自己的话
我觉得还是可以考虑搬到那边去生活
就和老婆那边的家人一起生活
我觉得还是一个在努力的方向
(01:05:40):
对我来说
所以包括学习韩语
也是一直还在去学习
去为了这样一个方向
我们之前录的时候你也说过
你希望你的vlog
或是一些video能赚足够钱
让你们两个旅游让你们两个生活
可是VLOG也拍的偏少了
(01:06:02):
最近对时间不够
呃也不是时间不够
其实时间还是蛮多的
偏少的话
就是去韩国之后有一个很大的变化
我觉得呃
突然我觉得我不想拍了
哎
我不想
发生了什么呢
就我不想告诉太多人我的生活呃
(01:06:23):
而且我也觉得
没有人太
没有太多人关心我的生活是怎么样
那么我就过好自己的生活呃
所以后面包括我只拍了很少的一部分
都是而且是竖屏的
很短的一两分钟就很快的
也没有去讲解什么东西
就只是我拍这些片段放进去
(01:06:45):
所以我觉得呃
VLOG是不错
是记录生活蛮不错的途径
但我觉得对我现
阶段来讲
用它来变现还是比较遥远
嗯
另外呃
我不知道你知不知道小红书
小红书其实
呃他的一些商业机制
(01:07:08):
还对比VLOG这种横屏长视频
还更多一点对
所以我觉得
这样的一个投入产出比来讲的话
可能小红书就剖一些图文
比你去花更长的时间
去做一些横屏的视频
vlog yeah
(01:07:29):
带来的一个商业价值还会更高一点
所以你会往小红书慢慢发展吗
小红书在一直在做
我看虽然做了也不久呃
然后也接了一些商单
其实有一些商业的变现
但其实也不多
我想还是在更传统的一些事业方面
去有所发展
然后能够呃更多的一些财
(01:07:52):
财富自由的这样一个方向
呃所以VLOG就拍的比较少了
嗯that's too bad
因为我记得之前你还说
什么西瓜视频啊
这些的对
都一直都就希望这个能push多一点
然后让你那种能财富自由
(01:08:12):
能多去旅游
然后带着老婆一起这样跑
对啊
能至少撑住你们这两个的兴趣爱好
是吧感觉暂时
暂时这个很难
但其实我现在工作的话
我觉得还不错
哎呀就是刚才有说是韩国公司
算是仅次于三星的一个
(01:08:33):
第二大的一个财阀公司
然后我们做化工
做环保方向的化工材料
然后也还不错
包括工作和生活的平衡也不错
虽然他是韩系
但没有那么卷呀
哈哈然后做的还比较开心
(01:08:54):
可是在别的国家的寒气
然后如果万一调回韩国那个
这个卷的程度就不一样了
对你说的很对
是的对吧
对因为我知道在别的国家的
比如说华为
they don't work that hard
(01:09:15):
对
你回到这边的话
要卷总总部的
华为is different
是的
所以你万一回到韩国的you know
这一份工作
it's我觉得性质就会不一样
是的
还要你还要担心那边的work like balance
跟就会
是
(01:09:35):
所以还在考虑
哈哈为什么不把老婆调回来呢
嗯就是
他来的话呢
也是需要先找到工作
但是你也知道
因为现在其实上海外国人的就业环境
就其实也不是外国人就业环境
包括中国人的大学毕业生
(01:09:56):
或者是有经验的人
他们找工作其实也很难
嗯
所以也是很多这种客观的影响吧
嗯
哼
还是目前我们在两边各自发展一下
看哪边发展的比较好
呀
那没有说不定我老婆发展的更好
我去哈哈哈
那边no problem
(01:10:17):
也可以啊哈哈
你们有没有想找一个中间的地方呢
比如说东南亚
或是i don't know some other place就是
嗯
有有想过有想过
呃比如说
其实我们之前有考虑就是加拿大
澳洲或美国这样的一些地方
(01:10:38):
呃但对我们来说
我们了解到的
都是我们各自角度了解到的
我们不是会有一个共识
比如说我有加拿大的经历
我我看到的是这样的一个感觉
但我老婆看到的是冷冰冷
没什么活力哦
没有工作机会
加拿大is cold
(01:10:59):
然后那他看到的美国
韩国人看到的美国
和我们中国人看到的美国也不一样啊
他们会有一个自
己的滤镜的啊
他们他对美国是什么想法
就觉得呃就是机遇很多啊
然后通过努力
可以实现自己的一些理想价值
这样的
(01:11:21):
但其实呃呃
所以我们1月份会去美国
通通通过旅游也去了解一下
OK
后面我们再看
有没有一些比较好的共识
yeah回来的时候you let me know
and ha ha ha
i think i think it's Gonna be very different
他想象的美国应该
HAHA
it's pretty different
(01:11:41):
现在我在做我们的旅游计划嘛
然后发现哇
美国的真的好贵
呀
什么都很贵呀
衣食住行
衣衣可能不贵
衣衣可能不贵
但是住行真的是很贵
SOS版型
你要对这个这个方面要省一点啊
(01:12:02):
我很多朋友也是
觉得每次去美国
你住一个最便宜的猴桃也是it's expensive
是的要要这个方面能省
the rest of it应该会好一点
因为我觉得吃的还好
food's no problem我觉得真的是住真太贵了
huge就是直接你的budget直接cut in half
(01:12:24):
对啊对啊
飞过去住
基本上that's eighty percent
然后后面的就那几个可以玩的
it's hard是的
而且我们去大概要半个月的时间
要要住蛮久
你们考虑找一个房车
就住房车里
这个还没有
但我们考虑呃
看一些Airbnb这样可能
(01:12:48):
但是应该也会再租个车
所以的话位置的方面也不会考虑
就是太便捷的方
就是稍微远一点
便宜一点
我们租个车
这样的话应该还会好一些
i think so too啊
特别是LA那附近
我觉得住远一点
it's not a problem everybody drives所以你只要开车
你基本上哪里都得到了要
(01:13:08):
对啊开车小心一点
哈哈哈OK
好啊i guess我等你回来
然后you let me know你对美国的一些想法
这次相当于我们讲了我韩国回来
对韩国的一些比较片面的
个人的主观的想法
right那么等明年从美国回来看看
(01:13:30):
我们有时间讲一下我对于韩
对于美国客观主观的一些片面的想法
OK好
大家谢谢
拜拜拜拜
Hello everyone, today is Angus Zuozuo
Hello again.
Hello again.
It wasn't bad last time.
Last time in Shanghai
It must be two years.
Yeah, last time.
On the way here just now, it looked like August 27, 2022.
That's right.
You have been through a lot
Last time yours
actually
The last time your vlog was not called the current vlog.
Right.
Let me tell you now.
Ha ha.
Because of what I said before
I shoot vlogs
Mainly for me and my wife
Some of our daily lives
Including travel
Something.
Afterwards
Well, I also moved to Korea for a year
And I found out.
There are bigger worlds waiting for me to explore
So I changed it.
Change it to Zuo Ge Brave Earth
And and
Because I'm also 30 years old
So it's called Zuo Ge
Hahaha
Is left and left not suitable?
Left left sounds smaller.
I feel in my teens and twenties haha
We talked about this last time too
My entire family still calls me Bin Bin
Oh.
Is it Bin Bin?
Even though I'm almost 40
Still Bin Bin
I don't think family matters
Of course, hahaha.
Yes
Now uh
From then until now
You've been through a lot
For two years and then moved to Korea as well
Right
How was it?
I had a good time
For me
It's actually a very rare experience
Because uh
The first time I went to Korea was seven years ago in 2017
Then he also went on a trip to meet me
Uh, girlfriend at the time
Uh-huh.
Uh but I think
Travel to Korea
It's definitely different from when you actually live and study there.
Feel it
Completely different.
Same and for me
Last year was also because after I quit my job
Then go over there
Go Back to School
Back to campus
To learn a new language
So I thought, wow.
This experience is really hard to come by
You learned this for a year
Who else feels your Korean now?
Can you say a few words?
Ahahaha
Who are you looking at?
Just copied stinky corn
Hahaha
What do you say?
Hello I say hello everyone
I'm Zuo Chao
Do you think you have studied for a year?
Can you communicate with most people in Korea?
Well, I think so.
And just like the last time
Just last month
Last month I went back to Korea to meet my wife
Then I told her
I said uh
After a year's absence, I will come to Korea again
And this feels very different.
Because when I went there in two or three years
They didn't speak Korean.
Well, everything feels strange
Then I wait until I go again
Then I found it very familiar
Everything became familiar
Yeah, and?
He also spoke Korean.
I can do a lot by myself
Do more things
Right, I think there are some changes in this perception
Hmm, that's a good change
I think it's a good change.
Have many memories
Hmm haha
Ah, I remember when I first came to Shanghai.
Are you here to learn Chinese too?
My sister and I are from the US and basically have zero Chinese.
People's Square
These four words are basically unrecognizable in a process
Then I went to Fudan University to study for three months.
Three months later, we were able to communicate a little bit.
With most of the people on the side of the road, you know
Buy a bowl of noodles.
Or we can be more comfortable in China.
Yes, and then this time I
Then come back to China later.
It's just a feeling.
Oh, I'm going to live here now
Exactly.
Which points do you think are more different?
Travel and real life?
What's the difference?
Well, first of all, I think traveling
Uh, how many points will it be concentrated on?
For example, some tourist attractions
These are the places that tourists often go to
But if you live there
You don't usually go to these places at all
Just give me an example.
Myeongdong in Seoul
Everyone knows it's a place to shop
But in fact, locals don't go there often
Almost never.
But every time a friend comes
If they come to me in Korea
You must go!
Yes take them
But I don't think you can see much there.
Real Koreans too
All tourists
They're all tourists, right?
I think it is exactly the same as Shanghai.
Right.
Just my friend
Well then, let's go to a Yu Garden
Let's go to a Nanjing East Road
That's right. That's right.
I-i hate these places
Hahaha
It's just too many people.
There's too many people!
And then every day it's just squeezing around
But people come
Okay, then let's go to Lujiazui
Just take a look at the Oriental Pearl.
Then oh ok
Where you must go when you arrive
So what do you think?
This year's experience is
How do you feel?
In fact, there is one more thing I would like to add
Just because a lot of people go to Korea
All because of KPOP
Yiya
Yes!
But in fact, I just didn't care at all about KPOP
Just not interested
So what I saw in Korea
And what people who like KPOP see in Korea
Maybe it's not the same, huh?
And then first
For me
The biggest difference is the terrain
I lived in Shanghai before.
Yes, it is flat in Shanghai.
The delta is flat.
There are no mountains.
But in Seoul, 60 to 70 percent are mountains.
Really? Really?
You told me today, I was also taken aback.
10 You said ten mountains that's crazy
Really?
There are more than a dozen famous mountains around Seoul
Aha and then I've climbed it all over the last year
After climbing
I feel it
In fact, it is a bit like Hong Kong
I don't think many people know that Hong Kong is full of mountains
Yeah you run to a place in half an hour
There is a beautiful valley
Exactly.
Can go hiking
It's the first time I've heard of it.
Because I understand.
Hong Kong is a city
I thought it was just a big city.
Yeah, and then found out
Oh, there's a lot of nature
I heard the soul too
Yes!
So why did you choose to climb everyone?
Just feel
Uh, it was actually uh, it was like this
That's where I live.
It's a place called Dobong Mountain north of Seoul
There is a Daofeng Mountain in Daofeng District
Well, then it's closer.
Ah.
Then every day I would be at home and see this mountain from the balcony
I think it's very tall when I look at it from home.
And it's far away
Then I thought
I don't know why.
Want to climb to the top of that mountain?
I want to conquer it.
I want to see my house at the top of the mountain right now
Such a feeling
So I started. I climbed the first mountain.
OK
Ah.
And it didn't take long.
That's actually okay.
Because the mountain he mentioned is not very high.
About a few hundred meters OK
But the road is still a little wilder
It's not like China, it's all fixed for you.
What kind of concrete steps?
He's a little bit more primitive
Uh, crawled for about four hours
OK
Then go up and down like this
Then climb the mountain through this
I met a local club that climbs mountains
It's called climbing in Korea
CIK for short CIK
Then they open
It's a challenge.
OK
It's called the Seoul Seven Seven Mountains Challenge.
Then join them in this challenge
Maybe every week or every two weeks.
There will be such an activity as climbing a mountain together
Yeah, so?
I am through this activity
Well, mountain climbing on the one hand.
On the other hand, I also know a lot
Different countries
They also work and live in Seoul.
Some such friends
Just feel uh
One is sports.
In other words
I also made many friends through this movement.
It feels good too
OK
I think many of these foreigners who come to China
Also through these groups
Right
To survive a little
Because basically you come here.
There are not so many foreigners either.
And one way of thinking about it is that percentages are not very large.
And you've got to find these guys.
It's hard to find the right people for you
So I also through some hobbies
Like jiu-jitsu.
Rock climbing
Then suddenly you can meet new people
And then especially like Shanghai
Like Seoul too
OK
There are more people passing by
Then you can better find these people
At least I still like it
Then in the jiu jitsu circle oh you are in this industry
Then the people of this country
Including you.
You can find a lot of more interesting ones
Ah, you, you guys still keep in contact?
Yes, and Ouyang.
Will go back every time
Will you line up with them again when you go back?
Well, if I have time, I will.
And as recently as yesterday
There's an annual summary of that Strava
And then posted it in my Moments
And that Instagram.
And I said, "Okay.
I have a friend who likes me the most.
It's a black friend from France
Then I'm on Instagram and tag him
Then he followed
I have a reply.
I said wait for me next time, we can climb together again
There are quite a few contacts.
It's great I think friends of this sport really are
I feel a little closer
Because especially in a big city like this
You are, say, in Shanghai.
I feel like I don't have that many friends
And there aren't many opportunities to get closer
Yeah, it would be much better if you had some similar hobbies
Yes
Then you are in Korea
Any other groups?
Well, because in addition to climbing mountains
I was still running.
Hmm, so after I was in Korea
Also look for some local running groups
Uh, there is a running group
There is a running group that is very famous in income
Well actually I didn't go before
Already heard from my wife
Ha and uh also via Instagram
Then give them
Send them a private message
Uh, what will you do next time?
Can I join you in this way?
And of course, I didn't speak Korean.
Then it was sent in English, ha.
They were very welcoming.
People from China are also very welcome.
Then he ran away with them
Uh, a road near Audiovisual in downtown Seoul
And then they're around Gyeongbokgung
You know Gyeongbokgung Palace
It's like the Forbidden City in Beijing.
But much smaller.
And they started from Muromachi.
Then circle around Gyeongbokgung
Then come back like this
Running with them for the first time
Ah.
Sensory experience
And some running clubs in Shanghai
The experience is quite different.
What's the difference?
OK
The first thing is that
I think their pace will be a lot faster
Hahaha
The pace at which they run the group
The average pace is much faster than in Shanghai.
It's about 5.
Fenduo looks like this
And then they run very orderly.
I think there is another point that is very orderly
Well, in what way is this order reflected?
On the one hand, their journey
Like a narrow road.
Do you need two people in a pair?
They are really a couple
Abide by this rule
And as we go along
The pedestrian who encountered the object
OK
The two people in the beginning will get together.
Signal that newcomers should pay attention
Then when the newcomer comes, they will say sorry.
Just droop Hamilda
Then talk about it after it's over
Thank you, Consul Hamida.
This wow
I feel a little bit like a shock
I think it's a polite one.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes, I'm feeding hahaha.
Because I also feel these running clubs in Shanghai
I always thought the running club in Shanghai
I really think Shanghai is it's just to be social
This is very man
Not at all it's nice
It's just a side effect
So I'm really familiar with it here.
They don't primarily run for the sake of running.
It's so we can go drink and eat burgers later
Yeah, whatever
just
I think these guys running clubs
A lot of people don't really like running
Hahaha
I'm not very clear about this.
Ah, don't you have a running club in Shanghai?
Ah, yes.
I also started with a lot of people
I also ran a lot in Shanghai this year
Well, then the biggest difference is what I just said
Is it slower?
Then you can chat during the run.
You can run fast too, right?
Faster, yeah
I think my friend Calvin
He is the second gear of dark runners
I also ran with them recently
I think dark runners are pretty fast
A few friends.
That's right, and they also train there seriously
Are you ready for the competition?
That's right, so I also want to say
Just uh
In fact, Dr. Drunders and PRC know each other.
Oh, right.
So haha
So I think Dr is still real
There are a few people who really enjoy running
Exactly.
Oops, what do you think?
Shanghai and maybe other countries
What should they expect?
If you are a member of a running group
Then over there you should have some
What are you mentally prepared for?
Well, I don't think you need to prepare much either.
Because uh
So let's start with running.
Uh, the big Runner you just mentioned
Yeah. Runner
And said PRC
And then there are actually, uh
American
Uh, is it New York or something?
Ah.
What else is the gap?
OK, and then there's AFE in Tokyo.
I know this running group from many countries.
They are all connected to each other
And then also
Just pure
Uh-huh.
Ah, for example, there is the Seoul Marathon here
Then maybe people from other countries come along.
Come to Seoul for a run
So we'll have some running the other day?
Ah!
So you could get to know each other.
It's also about understanding different cultures.
Right. Right
That's a very good approach.
Then on the day of the race
Then they will cheer each other on
Well, we will notify in advance.
How many kilometers is there such a plus?
Gas station went right
Everyone will cheer you on if they go there.
Is it all in English?
Well, is English okay?
OK
What if
Because actually there's not much English about running.
Actually right
Yehaha
Then if you don't know English
Uh, such as PRC them
In fact, some of you speak Chinese.
There is a girl
And she said to me
She studied at Fudan University in Shanghai before.
Very cool.
And now he has been living in thin
So he can be the bridge -- yeah, yeah, yeah.
I also think it is very important to have such people
Yes because let's say you're here
So you see a lot of jiu-jitsu gyms.
90% of them are foreigners
But they still need one or two
Call it a community manager
Hmm, and then you must be able to speak Chinese.
It has to.
That you can bring everyone together yeah
Because if not
Then there will only be fewer and fewer people.
Yes, yes.
So you can always welcome different countries.
People of different cultures
Still important
Yes!
So you think you're on sale if you don't have Korean
Can you talk to these?
Um, running clubs or
Of course you can communicate
Of course no problem.
Mainly in English
Because like me, it's about three processes. Hmm.
The first process is in pure English
Because I couldn't speak Korean at all at that time.
Then I know that there are people who can speak Chinese later
Can English plus Chinese
Uh-huh.
And then I started learning Korean.
Then don't speak Chinese
I speak Korean and English.
Hahaha, and then go back.
Ooh, I don't speak English either.
I can talk to them directly in Korean
That's great. How long do you think this process will take?
Ah.
In fact, basic Korean
If you don't consider this, what kind of Jin language?
Plain language like this
They will have one of these.
This different system of respect
I know this.
It's complicated.
It's what you want to express your meaning.
Still relatively easy
About 4 months of study.
You can almost do it.
Then they can also understand
It doesn't matter if you use honorifics or not
There's no such thing as respect.
It doesn't matter, I know what you mean.
That's okay.
And how long does this more polite Korean take?
OK
In fact, I am still learning
But because I think it's still right or not enough?
And that includes now that I'm back
I also joined a Korean company when I came back to Shanghai last year.
Although our company does not require you to know Korean.
Our company communicates in English
But of course it's better if you can speak Korean
Because after all, the leadership is Korean.
Right
So you think this will take a lot more time
Yes, I feel like I have to learn all the time.
Including is actually like Chinese
No. Every year there's something new.
What internet language or something
And Korea is no exception.
New words are added every year
They made up their own words.
That was interesting.
I don't think so either.
I've been feeling a lot of young people lately
I can't communicate with them.
Haha, it's because of some words on the Internet.
And they invented it themselves, like
Mandarin is OK.
Then normal communication should also be OK
But I feel you
My Mandarin is completely different from yours.
Then listen to them communicate like this
have me
Sometimes these after 00 i'm lost completely lost
Well, it feels like their world is my world
There's just too much of a generation gap.
Yes!
Then would you recommend
For example, if I am in China, I will speak Chinese first.
What should I do?
It's impossible not to communicate with them at all
OK
I think it depends on whether you have one.
It's the idea of being open to new things.
Yeah, but actually for me
Well, I'm on the Internet.
I feel like an old man
It was me on the Internet.
I don't want to accept something too new
Douyin what?
I'm actually right
I don't like this kind of short video either.
So these things
I sometimes think they are chatting
No matter the topic or theirs
I was lost in the language
Sometimes it's hard for me to talk to them
Me too.
It's the same for me.
Ahahaha
Stop talking about you.
Hahaha
Then you don't think
Is it very divided in this sand?
Just you.
I used to think I could be much older than I am
I can communicate with people much younger than me
Hmm and now I have to consider purchasing on behalf of others
Just each
Are different
Yes, post-00 and post-90.
It's different now
And the bar for that becomes higher and higher.
Yes, not to mention that you have an age problem now
Then your area is OK.
I am America
Then there is another split with China
As far as you can communicate, it's getting smaller and smaller.
Right
Have you ever considered that this is
In fact, I think it's a word that everyone is saying now
Call information reduction prevention
Do you know what this means?
Yeah, I heard about that.
Even though it means the Internet.
People want to connect
But the truth is now that everyone has their own information
Build a house, you are in your own house
Then you don't get to know others
Hmm, they look at it every day and think about it every day
Won't know
So how do you think we can break this liberation?
I think this is rather difficult
Yeah, because you think about it, or do you think so?
That's my comfort zone.
It's not bad for me to live here
I'll think about it.
Me too, I will try to understand but how to jump out?
What do you think?
OK
I think it's better to meet more people
If you contact people first, there should be a solution.
Good solution
I try my best
Just use this radio
Or use some of my good ways for you.
Then find some people to pull over and talk to them
Because there are some people who totally agree with me
Then you are here are you human haha
So sometimes when we communicate
I'll be right over there.
It's like a completely different world.
I can't think of anything more
You know we all live in Shanghai
But your experience is different from mine.
Yes, and then you run to search, it should be more different.
How do you feel about following in Shanghai?
Ah, Korea is in Seoul.
What do you think are the biggest differences?
OK
Because they are all big cities
Uh, there's another one.
Another feeling is
I think it's actually soaring in comparison
His proportion of foreigners will be higher
Whether they live there or are tourists
Well, his proportion of foreigners will be more
So it will seem more international
Hmm, so living there
As a foreigner, you are
Although although the Chinese look similar to them
No, it's not very common. It's just that
Hmm how to say
Like what?
A foreigner's words in China
It might still feel a little bit compelling
Ah but
If you were soaring
It won't feel too noticeable
It feels like this
One is easier for you to integrate into.
Hmm, you're not a special being
Right.
This feeling
But you also have an Asian face.
Will they be the first?
The first reaction is that you can speak Korean
Hahaha uh
This is what my wife told me.
I speak the first sentence of Korean
The other party can tell that I am not
I'm not Korean
Like I just say hello
Annie, see you?
I think
I've said it very close to their Korean pronunciation.
Yeah, but my wife said
Koreans only need to hear this sentence
I knew you weren't Korean
Hahaha ah
Because I was chatting with my friend the other day.
Then he said he also had one
We also have a Korean friend
Uh-huh.
We were sitting in a Xinjiang restaurant.
The waiter kept speaking Chinese to him
Ah, because he is Chinese.
Because his face looks Asian.
Then the rest are foreigners
So they just kept talking to the Asian face in Chinese.
And he just sat there and didn't understand.
I don't understand at all
Just shaking his head over there
But because I also feel
When I first came to China
Their first reaction was
Do you have a Chinese face?
You must know Chinese.
Then I read no
Don't understand at all
Don't understand a word
Haha, and then
They can't imagine that you are no Chinese
Right.
Then I didn't know I saw you in Korea
The first reaction is why
The feeling of no
This doesn't seem to have it.
Well, that feeling is gone
Because I was there last year
In fact, as a student
I have been going to school for language classes every day
This feeling
So as a student
I think it's pretty easy to fit in
Yeah, nice
Ah.
Because most of them are from abroad to learn Korean.
Yes, yes.
Like our teacher is Korean
Yeah, and so are the students he's working with.
Although most of them are still from China
But you have it in other countries.
So I think the role of being a student
To integrate into a new country
It's really a quick one.
A very convenient way
I don't think there are too many thresholds for me
And I'm ostensibly a student.
Then there is the Korean wife behind it
So I don't think it's too big.
This integration process
It blended in quickly
But don't you think
Because my experience here is that I can soon
Surface integration
But I think China still rejects you very much.
If not Chinese
There will still be a threshold
I heard there are more in Korea
Because I also feel that I'm here
In the beginning, it was easy to get in
But there is a ceiling
Yes, yes.
As far as the Chinese still think no, you are not ours
There must be this.
Uh like you said you got it
It's true that Koreans like to hold themselves together
If you are a foreigner
You definitely can't fit into their inner circle
Yeah, but in terms of your daily life
You go into
I think this threshold is still relatively low
That is, his threshold is relatively low.
Of course, the ceiling is relatively low.
Right.
It feels like this
Do you think this ceiling is breakable?
OK
I don't really know.
But I was exposed to some
For example, the Chinese living in Korea
Uh, I've lived for many years
I feel like they didn't fit in because
I don't know the first one.
First, do they want to fit in or don't they want to fit in?
Right? That's number one.
Yes, it is because I see one of their current situations.
Just hanging out with the local Chinese people
So what about my words?
I want to talk to the local people
Well, of course the local Chinese also have
Of course, the local Koreans or people from other countries
I want to know their rights
So
I have such a proactive psychology to integrate
That's like for this other Chinese guy in Korea.
Did they have such a motive in the first place?
And psychology I don't understand
But the phenomenon I see is
They still prefer to be together like this
Hmm Amy
You can also feel it when you look at Shanghai
Yes, the French are all together.
Then everyone still divides
Saying together is also together
But in the end
Your close friends
Basically people from your country
Or people in your area
Yeah, you went to some school in America.
You see those Chinese who are studying abroad
It's all Indians in a group
It's all together.
Because it's your comfort zone
Yes, you think so.
The threshold for my communication with them is 0.
I can still talk to them and continue speaking Chinese
I sometimes think it's wrong
You go to a new country
You too, you should enjoy this country more
Some local cultures
Yeah, I feel that way.
Neither do so
And I came over here.
Most of my friends now
They are also friends from China.
Rather than foreign American
Or less beautiful
And it feels like this.
I want to integrate into some of these
But I still feel
They will give you a ceiling
Think you are not ours
Then this ceiling is hard to break
At least in China
I think it's really hard to break.
The simplest is
I'm in America.
Many friends will say
This is my Chinese art
Hahaha no problem
When I was young, I
I don't care that much
When you come here
This is my American friend Arthur
Just you or put you outside?
As for why you want to add it, this is my American friend.
Why don't I support your friend?
OK
This first uh
What I'm trying to say is that I'm on the same page as you.
I prefer to integrate or experience
The culture of different races in this different country
Uh but like you said later
It is more deliberate to emphasize where this comes from
I don't seem to have experienced it yet.
Haven't experienced
They won't say it's my Chinese friend.
It should also be
It doesn't seem to be possible for this.
OK
But maybe I didn't say
But everybody feels right
Then my second topic is you
If I hadn't said it directly, yes.
But you also feel
OK
I'll give you my Tieba.
I am in China.
Sometimes my friends in Shanghai maybe
Naturally changed to Shanghainese
Ah-ha.
Then I feel like
You don't want me to hear what you say
Or you don't want me to know it all
If there is one, you will speak.
Ah-ha.
And I wondered why
You know this is something I don't understand
I'm already on this side.
I didn't recognize it, haha.
And then you switched
Some polite friends will turn back to you to speak Mandarin
OK
Sometimes it switches
Then why are you like this?
It feels like you are
I don't know if you did it on purpose.
There are some people I think
It was intentional
Hmm but
This ceiling is hard in front of you
This is your new threshold
But I won't let you in.
A little annoying to me
Got it.
Then you can also understand through the point you said.
There's a way to break this ceiling
It's language.
If you have complete mastery of the other person's language
Including Shanghainese
English is also good.
Korean is also good.
If your language does not have this problem
The ceiling will rise a lot
That's right, do you think you're better at Korean?
I'm not very good at it, actually.
But you are a little better than ordinary people.
Then you might just keep going up the ceiling.
One more thing
Language is just the first step
I think it's the first step
OK
It's your first step to a higher ceiling
And then, of course, there's more.
Have you learned about their cultural background?
Their history?
Their current popular culture
Or of course
If you have a common interest
This is also a staircase
Well, let's make your ceiling a little higher.
Yeah so I think
Well, if you want to fit in
Well, you need to take the initiative to do a lot of things.
Of course, the kindness of the other party
That's a more objective reason, isn't it?
So you think Korea is still difficult.
OK
First, the kindness of the other party
I think there is
Well, the good intentions are huge.
The other party is really welcome
Ah!
Then so
It's your subjective problem.
Do you have the right to study hard
Or want to know
Actually, I've been watching a lot lately
It's about, uh
History of Korea
OK
Including even the recent history of independence
And then there's, uh
The previous Joseon Dynasty
I have gone to see a lot of these specially.
Do you think I would be helpful?
I think it's quite interesting, actually
I never talk about this stuff.
So I'm less likely to learn those things.
I'm usually talking about rock climbing
Right
My hobbies are
That's one way.
Aargh.
And what about me?
In this field, it is much better to communicate with locals
Yeah, it feels like I'll be closer
Right
But I personally still feel that
In China
A lot of people put the threshold right there.
I just deliberately keep you out of my circle
OK
I don't know if you feel that way about Saul
Well, maybe your old
Because I have a Korean wife
There will be a channel
I think this is also a channel
Well, by the way, I was just thinking about saying that it might also
Well, it's a matter of changing times
Because China was a long time ago
Everyone is also comparing neighbors
They're very close.
However, with the development of society
Including some progress in urbanization
Like we came to Shanghai from other places yeah
I don't know who our neighbor is now
I wouldn't know him at all.
It's just that everyone is a stranger
Therefore, there is a context for the development of this era
Hmm, it will also create such a gap.
Or the existence of a circle
Yeah, but not good or bad.
I think
Ah interesting
Yeah, that's right.
I think there are also two sides
Right.
Ah!
It's also important that you keep a circle
Who do you let in?
There should be a little threshold
Right
But sometimes I think
Maybe it's polite
I just feel upset i don't know
Even I want to get in.
Then I also showed my sincerity
I want to be in this circle
I occasionally encounter this feeling
And then a little upset
understand
Well, let me change the subject. Do you think it's in Korea?
Eating shouldn't be a problem.
Ha ha.
I think there's a lot to talk about
Enough
In fact
I was in Korea for a year and I was a little thinner
Is it because you are not used to it?
It's not unaccustomed, is it?
There are two kinds, one is the school cafeteria meal
In other words
I ate out with family and friends
This Korean food
Well, first of all, compared to China
The biggest difference is that there will be fewer types
There's a lot less variety.
I want to eat hot pot mutton skewers every day over there. What?
Although there are some, it is about twice as expensive.
Right
Then school meals
Although some patterns change every day
But I don't think the difference is that big. Hmm.
Ah.
Including meat
We have both vegetables, but I don't think the difference is significant.
The way they cook is relatively speaking
Still less
OK
Either add various sauces to it and cook or fry it.
OK
This is a school meal, otherwise
Eating with family and friends outside of school
Words from this side
I think there might be a lot. My wife thinks there might be a lot.
But every time she asked me what I wanted to eat
I don't think I can say it.
A lot, I think it's still just those kinds.
Barbecue
Then what army hot pot, then cold noodles or something
I think there are so few types that it's hard for me to choose
Which do you think is your favorite food over there?
You said mutton skewers and hot pot.
If you eat Korean food?
Uh no Chinese food
Chinese food
If you're homesick, you're really craving
What's that?
Because I am a northerner
Well, actually what I want to eat most is noodles.
Of course, the north side.
Then over there, I remember there is a fried noodles or soup noodles.
I prefer fried noodles
Dry
There is such a noodle shop in Lanzhou
Well, then there will be fried noodles in it.
If I want to eat, I will go.
Hmm, and then I'll do it myself.
Hahaha
That's one way.
Right there.
In fact, uh, I have cooked quite a few times
Hmm, just compared to when living in Shanghai.
Because Shanghai is cheap and convenient.
I don't want to do it myself over there
Because I can't eat it.
Then I'll buy it myself
Go to the supermarket to buy it.
Do it yourself at home?
Including fried noodles, I also make it myself
I also think it's not bad
My first year in China
I was ten years ago
When I miss home
I would want to eat apple puree
Mmmm apple sauce
This is one of the things I've loved since I was a kid
Then I will go to the imported supermarket.
A can of apple sauce
I remember the 35-40 yuan can at that time.
One knife at a time in America
Haha, and then sell it for $5 here.
Then my first reaction was to do it myself
The first reaction is apple puree is just a few things
Put it in and you can do it yourself
Then buy it
Bought a few rotten apples
Then break it up and cook it.
Put a little cinnamon
I'll be OK.
You can eat now.
But then I was taken aback
I said I miss home so much
I didn't pay 6 times the price either.
Then homesickness can't be justified
At that time
So I feel it too
I have many foreign friends here.
They get better at cooking for themselves.
Right
Because when you really miss home
You go, I go to a burger joint.
Or go to a place
Sometimes your taste is just wrong.
It's just that they still have a little local dialect
Improve your stuff
So you eat
You feel
Didn't seem to hit my spot
Hmm so I still do it myself
I'll learn it myself
So I totally understand that you are at home
OK
And then you -- you learn to make what you want to eat.
Then I recommend my friends to go to other countries
More self sufficient
It will be much more comfortable if you can make what you want to eat
Yeah, yeah
And you make what you want to eat
The process is also happy
You see, and then you can also share it with the people over there.
Say we do it this way
Not your fast food restaurant
Why are you eating this burger?
But they think
Oh, this burger is supposed to taste like this.
Sometimes what are you doing
The food aspect
You think it is more single, and I agree.
OK
I always thought that Korean food was just a few
taste
Yes
Look
Either hot sauce or big sauce
Hahaha
Did your wife explain it to you?
Why does she feel so rich and diverse?
OK
In fact, I can also say it, uh
In Korea, although the country is relatively small
But they are different cities
There will also be some unique diets
Like what?
Uh if you eat bibimbap
Then the most famous one is Quanzhou bibimbap.
A little bit in the south.
Then fried chicken. There's a place called Chuncheon in the northeast of Seoul.
The fried chicken here is very famous.
And then there are other places.
Ah.
Uijeongbu
Over there is a birthplace of army hot pot
So this is them.
Every diet has what they call an original
The most authentic place
Don't you think China has it too?
Yeah, China too.
So they think it's a lot
But I feel like it's those sauces.
Then those fermentation methods
It's just that the things used are slightly different.
But the taste
It's all the same.
Yeah, pretty much.
I don't understand
It's just that some people told me
They really like Korean food.
Yeah, Korean food is great
I love barbecue.
Yeah, me too.
You eat it every day
Sometimes I feel like are you sure
Is this really different?
Do you really eat it differently?
Because of me, I feel like I can't eat it.
I don't think so either.
If it's barbecue
Either the type of meat is different
Either the part of the meat is different
Then the dipping ingredients
Still about the same
Just those few.
Right.
Do you feel that you are spoiled in China?
There are so many different cuisines
It's possible that I remember it clearly
It was when I first returned to Shanghai last December.
Then I started eating hot pot
Then eat various provincial dishes
I said that China has more than 30 provinces
If you eat a saved dish every day
I can eat for a month
Hahaha great right
This is ridiculous.
Sometimes
I feel like this side really spoils me.
You can eat anything you want anytime you want
Right.
Amazing things always come out
Incredible China really is that big
Then every place is really different
Yes!
Sometimes
I can't tell the difference between Chongqing and Chengdu hot pot.
But some people eat it
But basically each region has its own unique characteristics
Yes, comparative features
Exactly.
So sometimes I just
People say Chinese food
I like Chinese food.
I said you can 't say that hahaha
Yo
That's too much.
Yeah, too many.
You Say Korean Cuisine II
That's what it looks like.
You said daily material
I'm also a little rich
But I can understand
Maybe what do you mean?
Your Chinese food is basically all of this
Too much is too much
Then many Chinese people will say that I like Western food.
Ha ha.
Also many
I think what you said is too broad
It's too generic.
Ah, is there any cultural difference?
You feel
OK
And I particularly want to talk about this little bit of civility.
It's the high and low thing.
Oh, politely, indeed
Uh, I think it's influenced by this
I have a big change
I just love to nod my head right now.
That's how Koreans nod their heads.
They are also a way to show respect
Including uh
You go to a convenience store.
The cashier will greet you as soon as you enter
Then also nod
Then buy good things, and so will you when you leave.
Just a nod, I think.
Uh, this is polite
I think we really can still learn
OK
That includes strangers on the street.
Certainly.
But this one is not quite the same as the one in North America.
I think North America will say hello to you directly.
But their words just stop there
I'll just nod and signal
Well, I think that's a little tricky.
You think it's learnable?
Because it's less done here, right?
Yeah, I guess.
Uh, how do you feel?
It's as if he saw my presence
Well, he acknowledges my existence
Then he showed his kindness
Showed me his kindness
Hmm like this
But in China
More of you may be that I can't see you
I ignore you
Such a feeling
It will be far away
OK
Maybe a small action
It makes people feel very close to such a feeling
I oops I said I started
When I came to Shanghai
The time I remember most clearly was
I'm looking for People's Square.
Then I might be near Nanjing Road.
But I'm looking for People's Square.
And I went into a convenience store.
I also forgot about this old uncle and aunt in the convenience store.
Just go that way.
Just say it to me.
I asked People's Square
That's all.
Neither
Didn't tell me specifically
Then I'll do the exact same next move
Hmm hahaha
I feel like you just tell me a few ways
At least give me something
Nothing, just um, uh, over there
At that moment, I felt that if it were me
Very cold
Yes, very cold.
I feel like you don't welcome me very much.
Just tell me a few ways
You go that way two
Go a few ways over there
But you don't give me anything.
Just give me one.
In one direction, you can
Wow, I just
I was really devastated at the time.
I feel myself
I don't feel respected by you.
Because I thought I'd ask you politely, People's Square.
Yes and then you are uh
The feeling of not saying anything to me
So I understand you
Not just a nod
At least I said hello to you
There's something to get closer
I still like it
So did I.
I feel that at least Japan
In fact, Thailand is very hot
Passion is like this
I can feel it in a few places.
You still care about me
When I'm here, I don't feel it when I have it.
Maybe there are too many people.
Or something like that
For me, it's a long distance, right?
Instead of getting closer, right?
The direction is wrong
One is the feeling that I push you away
The other is that I took the initiative to pull you over
Then respect you
Right, right
But you haven't talked about this high and low yet.
Are you the brother?
Oppa
I don't understand this
Can you explain this relationship?
This one.
Do you understand?
I can ok
I actually think this is a little difficult.
That includes what you call your friends
First words
They like to introduce themselves
like
That is to say, what year was your age born?
It's easy to confirm whether you are brother or brother
Are you sister or sister?
Yes, and then in Korean
The brother called by boys is different from the brother called by girls.
Including the sister called by boys and the sister called by girls
It's also different.
OK, it's a completely different word.
Tell me about it.
Uh, the boy's name is Luna OK.
The girl's name is Ernie
Ernie okay
The girl's name is Oba
Ah.
The boy's name is hum
It's a bit like fierce in Chinese.
So it's completely different.
Then another if you are with friends
The first time I'm with a friend
If it's the first time you meet a friend
What would you call them?
Kasi, it's a bit like Japanese or something plus sun
Right
Then if you are a little closer, you can remove the name.
Called Mouxi
OK
Zuoxi like this Zuoxi
Hey
I understand yes
If you were any closer
No more surname and West.
Can be called by name
For example, my name is Zuo Chao.
This dynasty
Yes, you can directly call Chao
They have such a progressive feeling.
With your intimacy
Uh, you can also
But usually if you dance like this
It is the other party who can take the initiative to say
Well, just say you can call me whatever you want
I see.
He thinks we're already very close
We are very close
You can just call me what?
You don't have to call me brother or anything
Remember to call my name
This is also possible.
Do you think younger people are more likely to
Do you still respect this?
Or start to leave
Still doing it
Still doing it right
Why I like this
Is that your traditions are still preserved
Because I think a lot of traditions
And especially in the United States, less and less.
This fades quickly
But there are some places
Than Italy
I think Italy is a lot
Some of those old Italian traditions
It lasted a long time.
Young people still feel that
This is how it should be done.
Well, there are some countries.
What I'm mainly saying is that I see America
It feels like many traditions don't exist at all
I can reduce it if I can.
If you can, directly
So I feel especially in America
There's no tradition.
Then there are some countries
Take Korea, for example.
For example, Japan
The young people are still doing it.
The older generation is doing it
The older generation is doing it
It's just very popular.
Why is Korea able to do this?
As far as the concept of Korean superiority and inferiority is concerned
I feel a bit entrenched
OK
That is, including the earliest days they were influenced by Confucianism
Of course, it's not that Confucianism is bad
Confucianism has its good side
Just think I think
In their opinion, this young and old is
everlasting
OK
If you are older than me
I must respect you for that
They didn't think it was a bad thing.
Hmm they think it's normal
Neither is it a good thing
Just normal stuff
It should be passed down
Such a feeling I think
OK
But I do think that I
I don't know exactly what they think.
Including maybe everyone thinks it's different
I remember when I was a child, I was called a teacher forever
Mister and his name
Mister Robinson
Then I see now
Yeah, well, especially on YouTube.
You'll see some kids go by their first names
And then
I feel that America likes to push this boundary
Just most of them.
We grew up and I thought this would never change
Uh-huh.
But it's changing
I just feel that these young people want to see it more
Where is this extreme?
Where is this edge?
Can I scream?
Ah they want to test the edge
And I think America loves that.
Would not be called Mr Robin
Just call directly and call first name
Then that's very rude.
But I don't think America has this.
There is no such rule
That is to say, this is necessary.
When I was little, I thought there was
OK
I will never call my teacher by his first name
Certainly not.
It feels like a sign of respect
Right
But the new generation seems like they don't care so much
They don't have it in their bones.
I feel that this must be done
understand
Where did this come from?
Why didn't they?
I think this is a very important thing.
But you are in Korea as you said.
I think in Japan too
It's in the bones
Yeah, I was.
That's why this time
I have thought
Maybe we think it's polite. Hmm.
But in some children today
They may think
They are breaking an authority
They are more challenging
Such a feeling
Maybe what we think
It's the same thing.
The definition has changed
Yes.
We define him as polite and traditional
They define feudalism as authority.
You are suppressing me
Yes, so we still abide by it.
We think it's good.
But they already consider it obsolete.
Need to break
Need to challenge
So I think it's still different
Because I think it's true that maybe if you look
They feel that the current society does not respect them very much
So why should I respect this society?
Yeah, and then maybe some better places.
Maybe feel
Wow, we're doing pretty well now.
Then why break
Anything goes on like this
Ah!
I feel that the old Italy was really theirs
For example, the way you make noodles
They are rigid
And this is the only way to do it
Indeed, this is the best. Why should I change?
Right then i understand
Something is passed down.
Because there has been such a long history
Do it all the time
And that's maybe the best way to keep doing it
No problem hmmm
But I keep feeling
America is just not that kind of country.
Make it better not necessarily better
But I've always had that mentality
Like challenge me
So far I am in China.
I have it sometimes
I just want to see where your bottom line is
Ha ha.
Then many Chinese people are very disgusted with me
But I may have thick skin.
Because in fact, like the United States
Because it is also a cultural melting pot.
There are always new ones.
immigration
Immigrants from different cultural backgrounds in various countries
OK
You will definitely bring a lot of new things when you come in.
vegetarian words
After all, their main citizens
Or is it what they call the Korean nation?
Well, such a composition
But the words of the United States
White people still count as 60%
But also from many, many different countries
Including Chuangpu
Aren't they German?
Come to Germany
like this
So I think he and this country
A country's cultural background still has a little influence
exist
How would you describe the people of Korea?
How many words would you use?
Conservative from my point of view
Conservative is a
But I just wanted to say
As far as I'm concerned, it's actually unfortunate
I don't think they are very lucky.
Hmm, interesting?
I feel a little pessimistic
OK
Uh, how do you say this?
Just from the beginning
So let's start with geography.
Their location
Really not good
And go left and right.
It's all about acting, it's all about checks and balances.
Hmm haha
Ah.
So I think this nation is still a bit unfortunate
OK
But I think on the other hand
Although the first word I gave was unfortunate
But the second word is perseverance, perseverance.
They don't have this.
Overwhelmed by walking
OK
Or has it been
So-called resistance
Including recently, they are also protesting
Yes!
So I think
Although under such great pressure
And a great misfortune
They are still resisting
OK
I feel very proud of Koreans in America
And I'm Korean.
I like the feeling that I am Korean II
I don't think it's a problem.
Because I'm feeling
The Chinese in America are not so proud
Oh.
But
Koreans in America are really Koreans are the best
That's what it feels like.
It's a completely stand-out culture
I think many Chinese people just bow their heads
I just came here to study
I don't care that much about Chinese foreigners
I just came here to study
I live there alone
Uh-huh.
But Koreans are in America
My sense is that they will unite.
In America, the Koreans are a group
The Chinese in America
Sometimes I do it alone here
Then and I need to eat
I'm looking for a Chinese restaurant.
But I am an independent existence
There is no group
No comparison, no one united, a feeling
Yes, they are still very united in this regard
They feel united anywhere they go
And work together
Maybe open a Korean restaurant since a few Koreans
Open a place in Korea
Yes
Or when they came out
Is an ability of the group
Yeah, and then sometimes
I think
The Chinese do not have a mentality of this group
Yes!
And in fact, like many Chinese people through the Internet
Uh gained recognition
Make them feel that Korea has some stereotypes
Exists
For example, right and left between major powers
Such an image
But in fact, uh, of course there will be
But objectively speaking
After all, they are.
A small country doesn't have that many resources.
Well, so it must be that the current optimal solution is the alliance.
Yeah, or what?
It has to.
Yeah, but they managed to
Like KPOP.
Right? KPOP just burst out of nowhere from Korea.
This cultural aspect is really interesting
And that's the octopus swim.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's a career game
Just suddenly
Cultural explosion
And the Koreans were proud to say we did it
Yes, I can understand this feeling
I can understand why you're so proud
cultural influence
Yeah what do you think they're coming up
From From Korea
Do you think you can see some in the back?
Like some kind of cultural explosion?
Well, this is actually a very interesting point
It's me uh
When I first went there to learn Korean
Well, we have people from different countries in our class.
I did an interview.
OK, just ask them why they came to Korea to study.
Learn Korean
I think this is a very interesting point
First of all, it is undeniable that
Most girls
Their reasons are all kpop.
From the Middle East.
Russia is also good.
Just some of them with white faces
They also want to learn because of kpop.
Yes, including South East Asia
Vietnam Thailand
Well, it's all because of kpop.
And then something else.
They think Korea is a developed country
In fact, it is indeed a developed country
It's that small for them.
You develop faster
Right
So they think it's to learn something advanced
It's advanced for them
Yeah, so they're willing to learn Korean.
Come here to study
Yeah, it was one such idea.
This feeling is for me
Or something I hadn't thought of before
Including their influence in Eastern Europe
Some countries in the Middle East
I didn't think of it before.
Then they also see big companies like Samsung
Yes, it's a good chance.
Some of the right directions can be developed
Yes!
That's crazy I can't imagine
It can affect so many people to go to Korea
To learn Korean
Do you think there are a lot of people because of Anime
Did anime go to Japan to learn Japanese?
Is Anime as big as KPOP?
There should be
OK
First of all, Anime, I think it's a bit older.
Including, in fact, we also watched it in China when we were young.
Yeah, I watch anime as well.
But
The current development
I think the enemy is getting smaller and smaller
niche
More and more niche
But it's small and delicate
So, for example, in the second dimension.
What does it include? Comic Con?
But I, as the uncontacted person
I think maybe I won't go.
Won't learn much
But like KPOP
There is really a feeling of being out of the circle
Including the recently popular Apat APP.
Oh buy that that
As soon as I heard that song hahaha sang it right the whole day
Very brainwashed
It's brainwashed, oops, i hate it
I loved it the first time I saw and heard i loved it
And now I hear more.
Never listen to this song again
I don't think so either.
I think that chorus sounds better now
Hahaha so
What do you think of this thing?
Is something that has become worldwide
Yeah, I think so.
I can feel it too.
Squid game, everybody knows
Because there is no English.
All subtitles
And he said, "OK, people will accept this."
Because it's good enough to shoot well enough
He is willing to accept
Subtitles are also very novel
Yeah, i was really impressed
Immediately scream game seconds out 2 really
Really soon
So some behind you?
What is the Korean plan?
Well, because actually now
My wife and I are separated
Because of work
Although I am a Korean company, I am working in Shanghai.
And my wife's words are still in Seoul. Uh
Also working
Well, so the current situation is separate.
And then I go maybe once a month.
Later, I think
OK
If I had the ability
You can make money even in Korea
Just feed ourselves
I think it's still possible to consider moving there
I live with my wife's family
I think it's still a direction we're working on.
For me
So that includes learning Korean.
I'm still learning.
Go in such a direction
You also said when we recorded it before
Do you want your vlog?
Or some videos can make enough money
Let you two travel and let you two live
But VLOG is also less photographed.
I haven't had enough time recently.
Well, it's not that there's not enough time.
Well, there's plenty of time.
Less words
There was a big change after going to Korea.
I think uh
Suddenly I feel like I don't want to shoot anymore
Hey
I don't want to.
So what happened?
I don't want to tell too many people about my life, uh
And I also think
No one is too
Not many people care how my life is going
Then I'll live my life uh
So I only shot a small part of the back.
Both and it's portrait.
It's a short minute or two, it's fast.
Didn't explain anything
It's just that I take these clips and put them in
So I think uh
VLOG is good
It's a wonderful way to document your life.
But I feel that for me now
Stage-wise
Using it to monetize is still relatively far away
OK
In addition, uh
I don't know if you know Xiaohongshu.
Xiaohongshu is actually
Well, some of his business practices
Also compare the horizontal screen long video of VLOG.
A little more, yeah.
So I think
In terms of such an input-output ratio
Maybe Xiaohongshu will cut some pictures and texts
It takes longer than you go.
Go and make some horizontal videos.
The commercial value it brings will be even higher
So will you develop slowly in Xiaohongshu?
Xiaohongshu has been doing it
I think it hasn't been long since I did it.
Then I also took some orders
In fact, there are some commercial monetization
But it's not that many.
I think in more traditional careers.
To develop
Then be able to, uh, make some more money
The direction of wealth freedom
Uh, so there are fewer VLOG shots.
Because I remember you saying before
What watermelon video?
These pairs
I've always wanted this to push a little more
Then let your wealth be free
Travel more
Then run like this with your wife
Right.
Can at least support the interests of both of you
Yeah, it feels temporary
It's hard for now.
But in fact, if I work now
I love that shirt on you.
Oops, I just said it was a Korean company.
It's second only to three stars.
The second largest chaebol company
Then we do chemicals
Do chemical materials in the direction of environmental protection
And it was pretty good.
Including work-life balance is also good
Although he is Korean
But not so curly
Haha, and then I'm more happy to do it.
But the chill in other countries
Then if you are transferred back to Korea, that one
The level of this volume is different.
Yes, you're right.
Yes, right?
Yes, because I know that in other countries
For example, Huawei
Right
If you come back here
To roll up the main headquarters
Huawei is different
Yes!
So if you go back to Korea, you know
This job
It's I think the nature will be different
Yes!
And you have to worry about the balance of work like that
follow
Yes
So I'm still considering it.
Haha, why don't you transfer your wife back?
Well it is
What if he comes?
You also need to find a job first
But you also know
Because now in fact, the employment environment for foreigners in Shanghai
In fact, it is not a foreign employment environment
Including Chinese college graduates
Or someone with experience
It's actually hard for them to find work
OK
So there are a lot of these objective effects, right?
OK
Humph
Or for now, let's develop on both sides
See which side is developing better
Yeah.
Then maybe my wife is doing better
I go hahaha
There's no problem
You can also, haha.
Are you guys looking for a place in the middle?
Like South East Asia
OK
Have you thought about it?
Uh, like what?
In fact, we had considered Canada before
Places like Australia or the United States
Uh but for us
What we learned
It's all from our own perspective
We will not have a consensus.
For example, I have the Canadian experience.
And I -- I see this feeling.
But what my wife sees is cold
Not much energy
No job opportunities
Canada is cold
Then he saw America
What Koreans See in America
It's different from what we Chinese see in America.
They will have a self
Your own filter?
What do they think of America?
I feel that, uh, there are many opportunities.
Then through hard work
You can achieve some of your ideal values
Is that so?
But actually uh uh
So we are going to the US in January
Get to know it all through travel
We'll see later.
Is there any better consensus?
Yeah you let me know when you come back
He imagined that America should
Now I'm doing our travel plan
And found wow
American is really expensive.
Yeah.
Everything is expensive
food, clothing, housing and transportation
Clothes may not be expensive
Clothes may not be expensive
But housing is really expensive
SOS version
Do you want to save a little bit on this aspect?
So are many of my friends
I feel that every time I go to America
You live in the cheapest monkey peach, it's expensive too
Yes, it is necessary to save this aspect.
The rest of it should be better
Because I think the food is okay
Food's no problem I think it's really too expensive to live
Huge cuts to your budget in half
Yes, yes.
Fly over
Basically, that's eighty percent
Then there are only a few that can be played at the back.
It's hard
And it will take us about half a month to go.
It's going to take a long time
You guys are considering finding an RV
In the van.
This is not yet available.
But we consider uh
Check out some Airbnb like this
But I should also rent another car
So the location will not be considered.
It's too convenient.
Just a little further
A little cheaper.
We rent a car
It should be better.
Especially around LA
I think live farther away
It's not a problem everybody drives so you just drive
You basically get it everywhere.
Yes, drive carefully
Hahaha OK.
Ok i guess I'll wait for you to come back
Then you let me know some of your thoughts on America
This time it is equivalent to talking about my return from Korea.
Some of the more one-sided views on Korea
Personal subjective thoughts
Right, so come back from America next year
We have time to talk about how I feel about Han
Some one-sided ideas about the objectivity and subjectivity of the United States
OK. Okay.
Thank you.
Bye. Bye.
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