Branches Part 5: Sister, Sister

In this special episode, we're thrilled to welcome a very special guest—sister number one! Fresh off a flight and straight into the studio, she brings an exciting new dimension to our ongoing narrative. Together, they delve into the emotional rollercoaster of family secrets, the excitement of newfound connections, and the challenges of piecing together a fragmented past. 

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Tracey (00:23):
What's good, everybody.
Welcome to T the ChargingStation podcast.
It's your girl, Tra cey Masseyof My Living EmPOWERed Life.
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(00:46):
all that stuff that we need youto do to make sure that you
catch every episode of T theCharging Station.
If you are a returning listener, you know I love me s Some you.
Welcome back, boo! Y'all, I'mnot even going to hold you.
Okay, I'm not even going tohold you because you know why
we're here.
If you have been following along, you know I've been doing this
series entitled Branches, whereI've been taking you on my DNA

(01:06):
journey.
Okay, y'all remember that.
If you don't remember, go backand listen to the other episodes
.
But I have a special treat fory'all.
I've got a special guest in thestudio with me today.
Are you ready?
Are you ready to find out who'shere?
Y'all?
It's sister number one.
I got sister number one in thestudio with me.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, we'reexcited.

(01:28):
Everybody make room on thecouch because she's here, yay.
And let me tell you something,y'all, she literally just landed
about an hour ago, and so youknow, when I asked her to be a
guest on the podcast, sheabsolutely agreed, and I'm super
, super excited, not only tohave her here on our first

(01:48):
sister weekend, but also to haveher here in the studio with me.
Hey sister.

Robin (01:55):
Hey little sister, how are you?

Tracey (01:58):
I'm so good, I'm so happy you're here.

Robin (02:00):
I'm happy to be here.

Tracey (02:02):
Charging Station family.
I want you to meet my bigsister, R robin.
H hello.

Robin (02:07):
Oh my gosh, I know this is exciting.

Tracey (02:10):
It's so exciting so y'all, we, she's, she's keep
telling me that she's nervousand she doesn't know what I'm
going to ask.
And you know, she asked me if Iwas going to give her, if I
would give her the questions toprepare, and I was like nope,
nope, nope, because y'all knowhow we do on the charging
station, we're just having achit-chat, a little kiki, with

(02:32):
the girls and that's what we'regoing to do today.
Okay, I'm ready, you ready, I'mready, let's get into it.
I'm so excited Now.
I just got nervous because I'vebeen an only child all my life.
Now, all of a sudden, I havebig sister and nieces and
nephews.
More to come, more to come.
All of the plot twists.

Robin (02:54):
Yes.

Tracey (02:55):
So I don't think I asked you this question before.
It's going to be kind of hardto ask questions because we've
literally talked every day sincewe found each other.
So it's going to be kind ofhard to ask questions because
we've literally talked every daysince we found each other.
So we may be repeating a lot ofthings for us, but it'll be new
for the audience, right?
But I'm curious to know, when Imessaged you, what was going

(03:20):
through your mind.

Robin (03:21):
Well, I think I told you for me I had been in this a
little bit longer than you, Ithink I first did my first DNA
test in 2016.
So I moved to Florida and I said, when I moved to Florida, one
of my projects is going to be totry to find my father, and so
that was when I did my test.
And you get these moments ofyou know, information and you

(03:44):
get excited and then it fizzles,and so when you reached out
typically when people havereached out in the past, they've
been third, fourth, fifth,sixth cousins- so I can't even
know when you're smart enough tofigure out how we're related.

Tracey (03:57):
Right.

Robin (03:58):
So when I saw you at first I was like OK, it's just
another one of these fifth,sixth cousins and I didn't
really pay too much attention.
So the night before we talked Iwas off the next day.
So I was like, well, I got time.
I was up late.
So I read your message and thenI saw that it said this is a
very close relative.

Tracey (04:18):
I think it said Close relative, first cousin, very
close.

Robin (04:22):
So I said, wow, this is the first cousin that I have
found on my father's side.
So, then I was excited and wespoke the next day.

Tracey (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, and y'all, we, literally we hit it off so
well.
One thing that I picked up onour first conversation was Ms
Robin was at the beach.
Yes, it was my birthday and allI wanted to do was sit on the
beach.

Robin (04:45):
Robin was at the beach.
Yes, it was my birthday and allI wanted to do was sit on the
beach, sit on the beach and thatis one of my favorite pastimes.

Tracey (04:52):
So as we were talking, it was just so many similarities
that we had and we were talkingabout how, with Ancestry oh
shoot, I didn't mean to mentiontheir name, but y'all know
anyway it ain't but like two bigones out there, they're not
paying me, so I don't want tosay their name, but the service
that we used they label therelatives a little weird, right,

(05:17):
and so when we were looking atclose relative first cousin, we
both initially thought that wewere first cousins.

Robin (05:24):
Yeah, because originally we said we're looking for two
brothers.

Tracey (05:27):
Right.

Robin (05:28):
Yeah, we're looking for our dads and their brothers
Right, and we find one.
We'll find the brother to theother.
Right and so that's kind ofwhere we hung up that first day,
right Thinking we were firstcousins.

Tracey (05:38):
Then I went digging.
I went into the Facebook groupthat I'm in and I said, hey, I'm
a newbie here.
Any advice for a person that'sjust starting this DNA journey?
And they asked for the top fivematches that I had.
And I put my top five matchesand one of the DNA angels you

(06:00):
know, I spoke about the DNAangels here on the show before
One of the DNA angels respondedand said how many segments do
you have with your top match?
Because Robin and I share over2,000, like CMs.
Don't ask me what that means, Istill don't know, but they
asked for the CMs and it's over2,000.
And then they asked well, howmany segments?
And we share a lot of segmentstoo.

(06:21):
That's right.
And so the DNA angel saidthat's not your cousin, that's
your half-sister.
I literally dropped my phone.
I dropped my phone and I had aHoly Ghost Baptist fit, because
it was like the sheer shock ofwhat.
And it was weird because I hadjust spoken to you, we had just

(06:45):
talked, and I said I'm going tohave to call this woman back and
tell her.
Yeah.

Robin (06:48):
And I was like I'm out shopping it's my birthday
weekend, so I'm just doingeverything I want to do and
you're like are you sitting down?
And I was like you found him.
That was my first thought.
You said are you sitting down?
And she was like Robert, we'renot cousins, we're sisters and I
don't know.
I think I had kind of a thoughtof that earlier when, I looked

(07:09):
at the numbers because I wascomparing them to my first
cousin that I grew up with andher numbers were nowhere near
our numbers.
So when you said it, I don'tthink I was as shocked as you
thought I was going to be.
You said I knew it.
Think I was as shocked as youknow, because you thought I was
gonna be.
You said I knew it.

Tracey (07:28):
I said yeah, yeah, so it wow and then just that just
started to snowball because wewere like, whoa, yes.
And then our stories are sosimilar because you grew up
without our father, I grew upwithout our father and neither
one of us know who he is.
You know at the time that weconnected.

Robin (07:47):
Exactly.

Tracey (07:48):
And it was just.
You know, y'all I'm going to,if she allows me to, I'm going
to post a picture of us, becauseI haven't shared a picture of
us yet.
But when you see our eyes, youare going to be like yeah,
that's your sister, girl, that'syour sister.
Why are you acting like that?

Robin (08:02):
Yeah, I just thought it's more than even that.
I just think we have so manysimilarities.
You just meet people that youjust immediately like the same
things.
I mean, that's DNA.
You get things that are runningthrough your body that are just
the same and you can't.
And you meet people you hearthese stories all the time where
people find someone and they'rejust so similar.

(08:24):
They wear the same colors andyou know all that, so I'm a big
believer in that.
I do believe it is somethingseriously powerful in the DNA.

Tracey (08:33):
Absolutely.

Robin (08:33):
And now that I think we're together, I think we look
more alike.
We're seeing each other for thefirst time, face to face.
We just have our mannerisms.
It's more than just how youlook too.
It's so weird, yes, so it's likehello, it's so weird, but it's
awesome, it is just.
It's just a step in the journeyand I told you that I just

(08:57):
trust and believe in God becauseyou know, I'll just tell
everybody.
I told Tracy when I met her.
I'll just tell everybody.
I told Tracy when I met her Ihad given this up to the.
Lord I had been in and out.
I even hired a privatedetective at one time and it was
just so, just that rush andthat crush, and I just kind of
got tired of it.
And I said you know, I prayedon it one night and I said, lord

(09:19):
, when you want to reveal this,you will, and I'm going to stop
working on it.
So I think, when you came alongof course you're new at it and
you're you know, because it wasa lot for you to go on and
immediately find a sister.

Tracey (09:31):
So I didn't have.

Robin (09:32):
You know, I've been in this five, I mean eight years.
So you know, when you give ussomething over to the Lord and
you get in that peace about it,you just like, when he's ready
he will let me know.
So I truly believe that.
So I kind of just went on.
But every now and again I wouldsee something or hear something
and I'd say maybe I should lookthis up and I would you know.

(09:54):
I would kind of get in and getout.
But when you came along I feltlike it just it was something
about it that said you guys aremeeting.
I mean we're going to get intothis, but we definitely know
it's more of us yeah.
So I felt like there was justsomething where the Lord was
saying I'm putting you twotogether first it is something

(10:14):
that you two need to either Idon't know good, bad or ugly but
you need to go through ittogether.

Tracey (10:19):
Yeah.

Robin (10:20):
So I do firmly believe that.

Tracey (10:22):
And that's one thing that I've said before.
I'm so thankful for that,because this journey is so.
There's so many plot twists Idon't know any other way to put
it.
There's so many plot twists andif people aren't walking
through it, or have walkedthrough it, they don't
understand it.
And so to have you here.
We're going through the sameemotions, we're going through

(10:44):
the same, having the samequestions, and it's have you
here.
We're going through the sameemotions, we're going through
the same, having the samequestions, and it's just like
okay and we balance each otherout.
Yes, because when I'm having amoment and freaking out, you're
like the calm.
I call you the calm sisterbecause I'm like oh my God, oh
my God.
I was like okay.

Robin (11:01):
Okay, calm down, no, and then I'm just like I have my
days where I'm just angry Likethis is crazy.
You know that in the way I feelabout this, I'm not shy about
saying I just feel like here aretwo women who just took
something to the grave.

Tracey (11:18):
Right literally.

Robin (11:19):
We don't know why, but again, it just seems to me so
unfair that we're going throughall this.
You know records and documentsand interviews and talking to
people and just I tell Tracy allthe time I had this fantasy
forever that my mother hadwritten this name down in a
letter or something to me andwhen she died that was going to

(11:40):
be in her her final papers andit absolutely was not.
So she absolutely took this tothe grave.
So now we have all thesequestions about what was it
about this man?
that they were both, so is itprotective was it shame.
What was it?
What happened?
What happened?

Tracey (12:02):
I've been joking and when I tell you that Robin is
the calm sister, y'all know howI am.
But I was saying, you know, Ithink my mama stole me.

Robin (12:13):
And then she got me into it.
I'm like well, does anybodyremember seeing her pregnant?
And then I was like I startedasking that question right.

Tracey (12:18):
And then her answer was like no, I don't.
What's funny?
My mom.
I got in touch with two of mymom's closest friends and they
were like I've never seen Gwenpregnant.
I've never seen her with a man.
I was like see, I told you, shestole me.
She plucked me from the banksof the Potomac River and took me
to Howard University Hospital.

Robin (12:37):
And there I am there you are and I was like okay.

Tracey (12:43):
So I had our father.
I'm calling him Bigfoot becausehe's just that elusive.

Robin (12:53):
And I had him as a spy, as a mobster, just everything
you know.
And I think when you're a kidyou have all these fantasies
about your other parent.
You know, are they famous?
Are they rich?
Are they this?
I mean, you don't tend to thinkthe worst of them, you think
that it's just some grand thingthat you're missing out on.
So I think that's part of it,but your twists have been more

(13:15):
he's a spy, he's CIA, he's thisand that.
I'm like, hmm, he might just bean ass.

Tracey (13:21):
I'm sorry.

Robin (13:24):
Facts, let's just keep it real.

Tracey (13:26):
I mean you know, but the way the story is going right
now, we could not have writtenit any better than this.
No, I could not have asgrandiose as my imagination is.
I could have never written this.

Robin (13:42):
Yeah, I think what I find fascinating is just, literally
in a week we'll get a piece ofinformation on a Monday that's,
like you know, earth shattering,and by Friday we have another
piece of information that's justas earth shattering.
It may take you in a totallydifferent direction.
Like at one point we were soconvinced we knew who this man

(14:03):
was.

Tracey (14:03):
We were like we got it.

Robin (14:04):
This is it.
This is it.
This is him.
You have one phone call and Idon't know if you want to talk
about that at some point andyour world changes again.
So I think for me, like I said,I've been at this a little
longer than Tracy I think youjust learn to be patient, you
learn to take those ups anddowns, not that I'm not human

(14:27):
and I'm not excited or angry orupset, but I just you know when
I talk myself through that.
I'm like it's gonna be a littlebit of a long haul and you just
need to.
You gotta rest in that, yeah,so I don't fault you for being
the crazy one because you're somuch newer than at this yeah you
know, you haven't been doingthis for eight years, or yeah
it's eight years, oh wow.
Because I first did my firsttest in 2016.
It's 2024.

Tracey (14:45):
Yeah, it's 2024.
And I'm still I cannot even lie, I've said this on the show
before I am still in 2019, 2020.
So, yeah, I'm in a time warp,but yeah, let's talk about that
plot twist.
So, guys, we, so I took another.

(15:05):
On the advisement of our DNAangel, I took another DNA test
to see if we could find morematches.
So they advised us to put ourDNA on these different sites so
we can kind of like cast our net, because everybody doesn't use
the same services, doesn't usethe same services.
And so Robin had used anotherservice and she's gotten some

(15:26):
results who showed a nephew.
So we were like Tracy, you takethe test and we'll see if we
get the same result, which wewere expecting we would.

Robin (15:38):
But that came with plot twists too, and we did, so we
did have the same nephew.
We did have the same nephew,yes, but go ahead.

Tracey (15:46):
But the plot twist is the test results, like this
particular company labeled usincorrectly, so it had Robin as
my aunt and our nephew as mygreat nephew or something.
It was something weird.
It was something weird.
So thank goodness we hadalready had results, because

(16:07):
that would have completelymessed us up.
And thank goodness we have thedna angel to be like, yeah, no,
this isn't right.
They typically, they sometimescan do that and blah, blah.
So we got it all sorted out.
But we knew we have a nephew.
Yes, so having a, you know whatthat means.
There's another sibling,exactly Plot twist, we get to
digging.

Robin (16:28):
Yes.

Tracey (16:29):
And so we get in touch with the nephew who is, I feel
like, is a lot like us too.
The common thread y'all we alllove to travel.
Yes, and so this nephew rightnow is on the other side of the
world.
He's on the other side of theworld like he's on the other
side of the world, and he wasjust like, yeah, um, he was

(16:49):
telling us about he.
Well, he led us to his mother,who, turns out, is our other
sibling, our other sister,exactly.

Robin (17:05):
Yes, so I will pick it up .
Yeah, so we actually find thisobituary and it says this person
is deceased and he had thisfamily and he had these three
children and one of the childrenis this woman.
And so you know, now, for $2.99,I guess it is, you can almost

(17:27):
buy any information you want.
But the DNA Angels gave usinformation and said we think
you should reach out to thisperson.
So I did and you know you'renervous and you're trying to say
, hey, you know it's apossibility I wanted to be very
careful with my words that wecould be related.

(17:47):
And then she says well, why doyou think that I said well, we
found this obituary, we believethis man is our father, these
are your children?
And she immediately says no,because I'm adopted.

Tracey (17:58):
Dun dun dun Plot twist, plot twist.

Robin (18:02):
And the name she gives us for the adoption brings us back
to where we were always wherewe were.
So when we got this other name,it threw us right we couldn't
figure out.
It was nothing bringing thisname up.
And now we know why because shewas adopted.
So, the name that she gave usis the name.

Tracey (18:21):
Is the name of our is Bigfoot.
It is the name so Bigfoot has aname.
Is the name of our is Bigfoot.
It is the name so Bigfoot has aname, that's right.
And what's wild is, for somereason, my childhood memory has
stayed with me all of theseyears, because I remember that
name and I remember meeting thisman.

(18:43):
And I remember meeting this manand so we're like our other
sister confirming that we werelike, okay, this is crazy.

Robin (18:53):
Because she said she met him when she was probably five,
but I guess her mom married,whatever this other man and this
other man adopted them or her.
Still don't know if all threeof them are siblings or just her
right and she said in theconversation he adopted me
that's how she said it.

(19:13):
She didn't say us, so you knowthe story could be.
Her mom was you know, singleparent.
With her met this man.
They had two more kids we don'tknow.

Tracey (19:21):
We don't know yet, we'll find out, yeah but yeah.

Robin (19:23):
So when she told us that I think that's I was in, I was
kind of pacing around in thebedroom and I think I just sat
on the bed because I think I washappy because it made sense
yeah, it brought us back to thename we were chasing.

Tracey (19:38):
Right.
And she just confirmed that,and so when you called me yes,
with the news, I took offrunning.
I don't know why, I don't knowwhy I started running, and then
I just sat on my stairs like, ohwait, wait, first of all we got

(19:58):
another sister, and then, whenwe look at the ages, yeah, a
year before me.

Robin (20:06):
we're a year apart.
She's my older sister, so now Ihave a another older sister and
that's great yeah.
I think the interesting thingabout that is I again I think
I'm making this up, but I thinkMonday we were so solid in this
other guy.
This is the guy.

Tracey (20:23):
This is our we're done, we're done.

Robin (20:25):
And then you know, we talked to her on Saturday and no
, nope.
So just in one week we went toso many highs and lows in that
one week and I do want to say toyour listeners I think the
thing that was so interestingabout that conversation with our
sister was that she doesn'tconnect to our father at all.

(20:49):
She says I don't know him.
I met him one time when I wasfive.
I know nothing about him and Ithought that was so interesting
because when we talked you said,well, does she want to meet us?
Does she want to?
And I kept trying to explain toyou that one.
When I first spoke with her,she was very protective of her
father, right Like we weredefaming him, almost.

(21:13):
Like why are you guys trying tosay this man is your father and
so I had to you know veryquickly, tell her what the math
was, why we got to that.
And she said, oh, okay, makessense, and what the math was why
we got to that and she said ohokay, it makes sense, and your
son is my nephew Makes sense.
So she kind of came around andthen she said ah, now I
understand.

Tracey (21:30):
But guess what?

Robin (21:30):
That's not your father, because I was adopted, but I
don't.
I think she so loves andrespects this other man who
adopted her and raised her.
This guy is just not in hermind, and so I think you know.
We got two things out of theconversation One, that if we had

(21:50):
any additional questions wecould call her, and that's when
she said I really don't knowanything, but I don't just like
you.
I think when your mind startsto process and think about
things, things do start to cometo fore, because from my first
conversation with you and now,so many memories have come up
that have led us to answers thatwere locked in there.

(22:12):
So I kind of felt I feel likeshe's going to be the same way.
And then the second thing sheoffered was I said well, once we
do all the research and we'resolid and we're sure, do you
want to hear what, what all wefound?
And she said yes.
So I think I'm hopeful withthose two things, that she will
want to meet us and we willcircle back.

(22:34):
But again, I think it, I meanit's, it's a lot it's a lot for
anybody.

Tracey (22:39):
Yeah, it's a lot to take in it's a lot to process and I
understand the detachmentbecause, honestly, I don't have
an attachment to him either,because he wasn't in my life.
You know, I just have thismemory of this man showing up
and I'm like he has my face,that's right.

Robin (22:55):
And another one of my friends said you know, one of
the things you didn't thinkabout Robin is her.
Some people just feel guilty,like I don't even want to
acknowledge him.
I want to acknowledge thisgreat man who took me, you know,
and that's who I want toacknowledge.
But I think again, wheneverybody kind of settles and
thinks through it, I think weshould meet.

(23:17):
I mean we were all from DC.

Tracey (23:20):
All from DC.

Robin (23:22):
And she still lives there , and so I'm sure there's more
of us.

Tracey (23:27):
I'm sure there's more of us too, because it would be
interesting if there's moreafter me.

Robin (23:34):
Yes, yeah, it would be and it could be.
It could be, but we know wehave the death date now.
So we know that was pretty.
What were you five?

Tracey (23:44):
I was five.

Robin (23:45):
Yeah, yeah so could he have more, it's always a
possibility but you could be theyoungest you know what?

Tracey (23:52):
I would accept, that I would embrace being the baby.
I'll embrace being the baby.
But you know, something wasfunny to me.
First of all, all three of uslook alike.

Robin (24:03):
Yes, we have the gap.

Tracey (24:05):
Yes.

Robin (24:06):
And just for your audience, michelle.

Tracey (24:09):
well, the newer, the other, this new sister, oh my
gosh, I don't want to say allthese names.

Robin (24:15):
Sister number two, Sister number two.
She has still this gap in herteeth right.
You get to see it in herpicture.
I had that identical, and youlook at my younger pictures.
I had it.
My wisdom teeth just came inand closed mine you had it and
you had braces three times sowhen I saw her.
I saw, I saw that, and I waslike oh my gosh.

(24:36):
So when we see this picture ofthis man I know he's going to
have he's going to have, he'sgoing to have a gap.

Tracey (24:41):
He's going to have these eyes.
That's correct.

Robin (24:42):
For sure.

Tracey (24:44):
For sure.
And sister number two, goingback to when you had the
conversation with her, the wayshe reacted.
That's how I react to thingsLike why are you asking me all
these questions Like what is ittonight?
So I got tickled in thatbecause I was like, oh okay, we
are similar, so it's just, it'san amazing journey.

(25:05):
But my God, today, yeah, it'sso much.

Robin (25:09):
Again, I'm so grateful.
The story with that is I calledher.
I thought I was going to gothrough a million bad numbers
and she picked up on the firstone, on the first number that I
called, and so we talked for afew minutes.
She was busy.
And then, you know, I thoughtwe set up a time to talk the
next morning and she didn'tanswer and I kind of felt like,

(25:32):
you know, has she changed hermind?
Maybe this is too much.
So I was very I don't know.
I felt like the Lord just cameover me to be one.
We prayed before I called heryou and my daughter.
But I felt this calmness likedon't rush her, don't just wait.
So it was an early Saturdaymorning and I did all my errands

(25:54):
and then I said when I comeback tonight I'm going to call
her again.
And then I got home andsomething said no, maybe try her
tomorrow, just give her aminute.
And she called.
So I opened the call with herby just saying how grateful I
was that she called.
And that's huge and I don'twant to.

(26:19):
You know, I feel like even youand I we've talked about this,
we've kind of sometimes lookedpast even us finding each other
because, we're so trying to getto the end, but one of my
friends said wait, wait, wait.
You need to honor respect andjust sit in the fact that you
found a sister.
So I feel like sometimes werush past, you know, trying to

(26:40):
get to the final answer, butit's a reason that I mean.
Neither one of us are like inour 20s.

Tracey (26:46):
You know what I mean.

Robin (26:47):
So it's been a long time that we have not known who this
person was, and you know youtalk about.
We have our days where we'reangry.
We have our days where we feelcheated.
Like you know, you didn't growup with your nieces and your
nephews, you know again, we'realive, we're breathing, we got
time.
We have every day.
We can, we can remedy that.

(27:08):
So I'm just trying to.
I think my struggle right nowis just trying not to live in
the anger yeah, yeah, and that'sbeen really hard for me it has
been hard.

Tracey (27:17):
It's been really hard and I just, I just thank God for
well one, reminding me that heis the redeemer of time and just
thinking about how quicklythings have moved.
It's been so fast and I'm sothankful for everything that has
happened.
I wouldn't change the processat all, even though it's very

(27:40):
emotional, but it's.
I feel like it's happening nowbecause, god knows, we're ready
for it.
Exactly, and we can, we canhandle it.
Exactly, and whatever he brings,you know one thing as women of
faith, one thing we're going todo is go back to him and like,
oh Lord, this is a lot, but Iknow that you got it.
We're going to rest in this.

Robin (28:03):
Yes, and that's why I keep saying it.
I mean, one day we're going toclearly have the answer as to
why we met first, because itcould have been, we could have
met the others first.

Tracey (28:12):
Right.

Robin (28:13):
So there's something there that we're going through
it together.
So I don't know.
We'll see.

Tracey (28:20):
And just seeing, like being in the Facebook group,
seeing other people goingthrough this journey as well.
A lot of people don't have whatwe have Exactly.
You know there's a lot of.
I had to get out of the grouptoday because I felt myself like
being oh my gosh, I'm justgoing to start crying because a
lot of people are missing theirfathers that they never got to

(28:41):
meet.
You know, here we are Father'sDay weekend weekend and you said
this.
Tell the people what you saidwhen we decided.
First of all, let me tell y'allabout my big sister.
Like she is very much.
Y'all think I'm something,y'all think I am detailed and
action oriented.
My big sister got me because wewere on the phone when they

(29:04):
said I'm coming to Charlotte,I'm coming, and next thing I
know she booked the flight.
I said, okay, well, let me findhotel.

Robin (29:11):
I'm not scared to find a hotel.

Tracey (29:15):
But what tell the people what you said when you said I'm
coming to Charlotte?

Robin (29:21):
well, I think I looked at the weekend because I got a lot
of travel going on with workand everything.
I didn't pick it.
I just picked the weekend firstof all and then I said wouldn't
it be something if we knew atleast?
I think I said the name- by thetime we so one.
I picked it.
Then, secondly, I realized itwas Father's Day weekend and I

(29:41):
called you and said Tracy, oh mygoodness, we booked this on
Father's Day weekend.
And I called you and said Tracy, oh my goodness, we booked this
on Father's Day weekend.
How crazy, I mean we didn'tplan that at all.

Tracey (29:47):
At all.

Robin (29:48):
And then I said what if we know, at least know his name
by then?
And we do, we do, and that'sjust so exciting.

Tracey (29:56):
And that's the thing.
As a reminder, peeps, life anddeath is in the power of the
tongue.
Whatever you speak, it shall be.
So.
We speaking in Bigfoot got awhole lot of money and we got an
inheritance somewhere.
We got an inheritance.
It's just waiting for us.
Yes.

Robin (30:19):
So interesting.
I just think you know I've beenthinking a lot about because
you said, and the other sistersaid, that you guys met him when
you were 5, 6.
And I've been just racking mybrain saying did I, did I meet
him when?
I was younger, I just don'tremember it, or you?

Tracey (30:36):
know what I mean.

Robin (30:37):
So I don't that has not come back.
I'm not getting any memory ofmeeting him.

Tracey (30:42):
My question was what was it about the age of five and
why are you showing up whenyou're five years old?

Robin (30:47):
We're whole toddlers sir, why are you here?
Yeah, I don't know, that's veryinteresting, yeah, like what
was that?
But obviously I don't know.
I mean, I guess what it makesme when I want to fantasize
about him.
It makes me think he didacknowledge you guys, you know,
and, like I said, maybe he didme too, I just don't remember,

(31:08):
but there was some connectionwith our mothers, that he at
least saw you guys once or twice, who knows?
Well, there was definitely aconnection, because all three of
us here I know that, but I meanhe showed up once, you know, so
very interesting.
Sister number two said the samething.

(31:29):
I met him once when I was five.
She remembers that, youremember that.
I'm not getting any of that.

Tracey (31:38):
Nothing's coming up for me and for me to be this big age
and remembering that, it's justamazing to me that that has
stuck, because I can literallyremember what he was wearing
that day.

Robin (31:48):
Oh, wow, okay.

Tracey (31:50):
I might have to talk to my therapist about that, Like
why is?

Robin (31:53):
that.

Tracey (31:54):
Why that stick, when I can barely remember what I did
yesterday?

Robin (31:58):
but I remember that Mine is a powerful thing.

Tracey (32:01):
Yeah it is, it is, and so people have, like, I've been
so excited I've been telling myfriends, you know, my sister's
coming, my sister's coming.
They were like, oh so you'rehaving a reunion.
And I said, well, we've nevermet.

Robin (32:12):
That's right.

Tracey (32:13):
What do we call it?
We can't really call it areunion because we've never
united.
It's a birth.

Robin (32:23):
Ooh.

Tracey (32:24):
I like that yeah.

Robin (32:24):
It's like you know, if I would have been the oldest
sister I am and you would havebeen born, you would have come
home right.

Tracey (32:31):
So I think it's like a new addition to the family, kind
of thing.

Robin (32:35):
So it's exciting.
I'm just very joyous about thewhole thing I think, even though
we both have our days when I'mjust so impatient and want to
get the name, get the picture,speak to someone that knew him
and just tie it all together andsay, okay, we have four

(32:58):
siblings or we have this, butagain it's going to happen.

Tracey (33:02):
It's just unfolding, it's blossoming, exactly Kind of
like that, but still it's justgoing to happen.

Robin (33:05):
It's just unfolding.

Tracey (33:06):
Yes, it's blossoming, exactly Kind of like that, but
still good gracious, oh my God.
Today, what's cool though, wemade the hotel reservations.
I had called, and well, no, thesales manager, or something
sent me an email.
Just well, you probably got thesame email.
Well, they were welcoming you,or whatever.

Robin (33:26):
You didn't.
I don't know.
I don't need to look, I don'tremember that.

Tracey (33:29):
But I responded to the email and I usually don't
respond to emails like that.
But I responded to the emailand I said, hey, this is a
special occasion, I'm meeting mybig sister for the first time.
And they were like, oh my gosh,let me get you in touch with
so-and-so at the hotel.
And so now everybody at thehotel knows they're excited.

Robin (33:47):
They're like you two are like long-lost sisters.

Tracey (33:50):
I'm like, yeah, Like that's us.
So that's pretty cool, Becausewhen Robin came into the hotel
y'all know me I was so excited.
I was just kind of like jumpingand running and everybody
started smiling real big becauseI guess they figured I had been
there kind of mulling aroundthe hotel and they were like
that must be her.
But it was just so cool it was,it was great.

Robin (34:12):
And like my friends are saying the same thing and family
say are you?

Tracey (34:15):
nervous Are you?

Robin (34:16):
there and I was like I'm not, because we talk almost
every day.
Every day and we've just hadevery conversation here that
we've actually saved someconversations that we wanted to
do in person, so I wasn'tnervous at all.
I think I was more nervousabout this podcast than I was
about meeting you, because Ifeel like I already know you.
We're already connected, sothat wasn't an issue for me.

Tracey (34:35):
Yeah, I told you I got nervous, but it was those
butterflies excited, kind ofnervous Because I'm very much of
a hostess.
So I really want you to have agood time.
But I don't want to run you allover the charlotte because you
even said it today.
It's like we don't have to doeverything this weekend.
When I tell y'all she is thethe yin to my yang, y'all I

(34:57):
didn't realize I was this crazy.

Robin (34:59):
Oh, my gosh, when you get to know my family and friends,
they're gonna be like rob, likeRobin is the calm one.
Oh, my gosh, because I'm neverthe calm one.
So I think it's funny.
Every time I talk to you it'sso many similarities of how we.
You know clothing.
Our hair is almost exactly thesame.

Tracey (35:17):
That's the thing that freaked me out.
When we FaceTimed the firsttime, we kind of looked at each
other like, oh my God.

Robin (35:24):
It's just so like what, the first time, and we kind of
looked at each other like, oh mygod, like wait a minute exactly
so I just think yeah, they'regonna laugh that I'm the calm
one, because I am not the calmone.
But when you say you're ahostess, that is so me that is
like you know, I can't wait tillyou come to my home because I
am.
You know, when I lived in theDC area, my house was the party
house, the function house, thegraduate.

Tracey (35:45):
I mean every all the big functions.
C area.
My house was the party house,the function house.

Robin (35:46):
The graduate, I mean all the big functions in our family
happened at my house, so Ialways have been a hostess.
I love that and I think that isone of the results of being
this only child, and, you know,my only child.
I have siblings, but we weren'talways lived at the same place
at the same time.
So, I grew up a lot of my lifeas an only child, and so I think

(36:10):
people that are like that yougo two ways.
You're either kind of a loneror you're just always bringing
people together.
Like my house is always thehouse full.
You know what I mean.

Tracey (36:19):
Yeah.

Robin (36:19):
So I think you get that when you don't have that sense
of foundational parents.
You got both your parents, youknow who they are.
You just grow up differentlyand I think it's just something
people won't understand, becausepeople say to me all the time
you know, robin, you're justbeautiful, you're successful,

(36:40):
you're amazing.
You know, you hear all thisstuff and they're like why do
you care about this?

Tracey (36:46):
Why does this matter?
I?

Robin (36:47):
think that's what fascinates me the most how
people don't get that.
And I think just that, becauseon my maternal side I'm telling

(37:09):
you we're almost to the slaveship.
I mean we know everything aboutthat side and so to just have
that much information on oneside and have nothing on the
other side is just blank andit's not even for me.
Of course I want to know, but Ijust want my children to know
where their mother came from andtheir history.
So, they can do their tree, andthat became just more and more.

(37:33):
It bothered me and I used totalk to my daughters and say I
want this answer even if I'mdead and gone.
Even if I'm dead and gone, Istill want you guys to find out
who he was, so you know yourname and you know where you came
from you know and my kids arelike who cares?
You know what I mean?
They don't care about that.

(37:53):
All they care about is our mom,we know our mom and dad, you
know what.

Tracey (37:57):
I mean.

Robin (37:58):
But it's still.
They do know.
It's very important to me thatthey could do their tree.

Tracey (38:03):
And for me, since losing my mom and losing my daughter,
and people have asked completely, have asked me questions that
have taken me aback, which ishard to do, but they've asked me
why I'm doing this now, at thisage, and blah, blah, blah.
And I said because I have aright to know who I am fully

(38:26):
yeah, this age.
And blah, blah, and I saidbecause I have a right to know
who I am, fully yeah, and if youdon't, like you said, if you've
never been here before, likehaving a whole, a half of you
missing, yes, like I've alwaysfelt different in my family,
I've always felt like somethingwas missing and now I'm learned,
I'm seeing.
Like I said in my last episode,the last person that walked

(38:47):
this earth that had my face wasmy daughter, and so now I'm
seeing you and now I'm seeingsister number two.
I'm like, oh, we got the sameface.
That does something for me andto feel not alone in this world.
And I don't want people to takethis the wrong way Because I got
plenty of friends who love me.

(39:07):
I got my cousins and everybodywho love me.
It's just different when youhave a sibling Growing up as an
only child and both of yourparents are gone.
It's different, and I don'tknow any other way to explain
that to people.
That's the best that I can do.

Robin (39:25):
I don't think you can, I don't, I don't stress about it,
I don't worry about it.
I mean because, like I said,people have said to me for years
you know, you're soaccomplished and I think they
say that to say you didn't havethis man, or you didn't have
this or that or you didn't have.
But you know, look at, it'syour story, look at what
happened right you know.
But again, we're yeah.
But what if he was involved?
What if he was around?

(39:46):
Maybe you know, I always wantedto learn how to play piano.

Tracey (39:50):
Maybe he knows how to he could have taught me, how he
could have taught me something.

Robin (39:52):
Yeah, so you just you know you can't really get people
to understand that, but I thinkeverybody just wants to be
whole you just want to know.
Like I basically said to you,if he was alive today, I was
like I don't really I.

(40:12):
My expectation was I wanted toknow his name.
So I know my name and I wanteda picture.
Did I really care about meetinghim?
Did I really care about findingall the siblings?
That was never like the biggestthing for me.
I just wanted to know my name.
But you were like, oh, I want tomeet everybody because I've
been an only child and I waslike, hmm.
So when we met it was kind oflike, well, what if, by some

(40:32):
chance, he's alive?
And what would I say?

Tracey (40:35):
I told you what I was going to say.
What would I see him?

Robin (40:38):
Would I be angry.
So you know, obviously we'renot going to have to deal with
that, but um, yeah, I justgetting to that reality of what
would that be like if he wasalive and you could meet him.
That was kind of getting in myhead I was like oh, I don't.
I don't even know what I woulddo I know what I was gonna do.

Tracey (41:00):
I know okay.
I know what I was gonna sayyeah, we either.

Robin (41:03):
I know Exactly.
So I don't know.
I just think you.
I'm a strong believer in everyexperience.
Everything you go through isyour story.

Tracey (41:13):
Right.

Robin (41:13):
You know it's your story.
And how would my story havebeen different if my father was
in my life?
I don't know the answer to that.
He might have been a really badguy or you know a terrible
person and it might not havebeen great, but he could have
been great.

Tracey (41:29):
You know, we just don't know, we just don't know, we
will never know.

Robin (41:32):
Right.
We just didn't get theopportunity to, because the
person that we we know it is Iwas 16 when he died.
You were six, right?

Tracey (41:41):
Five.

Robin (41:42):
Six, so you know.
I'm definitely 16.
I was definitely old enough tosee him talk to him, you know
whatever.
Right, but we just didn't getthe chance.
So I just feel like it justkeeps coming back to these two
women who we don't know if theyknew each other other.

Tracey (42:00):
I mean, there there've been signs that make us almost
think these guys were in thesame circles because these names
are just crossing over very alot.
Right.

Robin (42:12):
Yeah, but so if we assume they didn't know each other um?

Tracey (42:18):
And what they didn't have the same exact.

Robin (42:21):
You know how they handled .
This was identical.

Tracey (42:27):
Your mother and my mom.
It was identical.

Robin (42:29):
Didn't want to talk about it, didn't want to give us the
name, and it was funny becausemy mother and you talked about
your mom.
My mother read the WashingtonPost from, you know, from the
front to the back, every day,every day.
And I think back now and saidyou know, when I was 16 and he

(42:50):
died, she knew that Right, andmy daughter was like my youngest
daughter was like mom, you know, grandma knew because she read
that paper.
I mean to the point, if she wasaway for the weekend she would
come back during the week andread the ones from the weekend.
So she knew she read theobituary because she was always
saying, oh, one of your teachersdied, or you know whatever.

(43:10):
So we know that.
But I want to say when I askedher I was 32 years old, right.
That was 16 years later and shewas like well, you know what I
mean.
So you knew, you knew.
She knew at the time that Iasked her that this man was
deceased.

(43:30):
So what was it?
It was something that made youtake that literally to the grave
.
He was a spy.
Okay, where's my governmentcheck.

Tracey (43:45):
He had to be a spy and he's got, like this Swiss
account or an account in theCaymans, and we just Well, you
got a dream bag, Tracy.

Robin (43:59):
I mean, hey, you know.

Tracey (44:01):
Look, speak those things that are not as though they are
Okay.

Robin (44:08):
Gotcha.

Tracey (44:09):
Well, we are.
You know, we're at the time ofthe recording on this podcast.
We're on our first sisterweekend and we're going to do
some things that will not be oncamera.
Nothing illegal.

Robin (44:25):
I don't really know you.

Tracey (44:28):
This is true, but you know, we're just going to be in
the moment and, you know, takingthis time to get to know each
other even more.
Hopefully we can get in touchwith sister number two sometime
this weekend and you know, Ithink so far I'm having a great
time, are you?
Are you enjoying yourself?

Robin (44:49):
I love new experiences, so even just doing a pod, I've
never done a podcast.
So, anytime I do something newand I think that just you know
implants in your head like forthe rest of your life.
The first time you ever did apodcast it was with your baby
sister, you know.
So I love those types of thingswhere you have those
experiences and they just kindof you know, they become

(45:09):
memories, they're just etched inyour brain that if somebody
ever asked me to do a podcastagain I'll say, yeah, I've done
that before, you know, with mylittle sister in Charlotte.

Tracey (45:20):
Charlotte North.

Robin (45:21):
Cagalacky, exactly, so I love this area.
It was great to come here.
I have, you know, auntie andsome cousins that I'm going to
see tomorrow.
So, it's just all icing on thecake.
But I just, I don't know.
I just told you I had just aspecial feeling going into 24.
I just was claiming 24.
I was like Lord, this is goingto be just an abundant year,

(45:44):
it's going to be a joy for you,I just claimed that, and every
month here was something,something, something, something.

Tracey (45:58):
And then, when April hit , you know, my son says you had
a great birthday present mom,you met your sister we got to
remember that we spoke on mybirthday, On your birthday, yeah
, oh wow.
I mean, when you start thinkingback about all of this stuff
because it's been happening sofast, it's really good to pause
and reflect on everything.

Robin (46:15):
Just that you sent that kid in because you were hesitant
, right yeah?

Tracey (46:21):
And I thank the community on Instagram because,
if it wasn't for them, I wasliterally joking and saying you
know what, maybe I should do it,blah, blah, blah, and they
encouraged me to do it.
Now, I don't know if everybodywho said they were going to do a
test did it.
I hope they did, if you did letme know, but if it wasn't for
them, I wouldn't have done it.

Robin (46:41):
Well, that's great, yeah, yeah, because I hope they did
it, because I think justtechnology and the records and
what's so fascinating about whatwe're seeing you're just seeing
people's draft cards.

Tracey (46:56):
And.

Robin (46:56):
I found the census.
I don't know what it was.
My mom was nine years old andshe filled out the census card.

Tracey (47:04):
Oh, my God.

Robin (47:06):
And my grandparents had six kids, but at the time it was
only three of them, because mymother was the oldest and I
remember when the census used tocome, I used to always want to
fill it out Like I feel, likeall the kids wanted to fill it
out.

Tracey (47:15):
Yeah, yeah, parents could care less.

Robin (47:17):
So she fills it out.
And they're like you know mymom's name, nine years old.
Wow and she fills this out andI actually see it.
So I'm seeing my mother'shandwriting on this census thing
and her trying to sign her name, you know, at nine years old.
So it's all kinds of stuffcoming up like that.
So I think anybody that iscontemplating it you might be

(47:45):
pleasantly surprised when you doit.
You might, as soon as thatthing hits there, it might say
you have a brother, you have ayou know whatever but then just
all the information that you canget on your ancestors, like
once you get past this part.
But just going way back,grandmother, great, great, great
great to the what.

Tracey (47:59):
Oh, my gosh when does it go Up to the sixth grade?
It's insane.

Robin (48:02):
Yeah, so I know for my.
One of my cousins has beendoing a lot of research on our
family for years and, like Isaid, she is definitely at the
slave ship at this point and,but just how quickly the DNA
angels have built out ourmaternal side on that tree.

Tracey (48:21):
It's insane.

Robin (48:22):
It's been really fast.

Tracey (48:24):
There's over.
When I checked, I looked at ittoday there's over 500 people on
my tree, just on my maternalside.
I'm like good gracious, I hadno idea it was that many people.
And you know, I told you aboutthe cousin.
Well, that's the cousin on ourpaternal side who is French,

(48:46):
Okay, Does not speak a lick ofEnglish, but we've been chatting
through Google Translate.

Robin (48:52):
Oh, my goodness.

Tracey (48:54):
And so I'm like all over and the way you can see a map
of where all of your relativesare.
It's wild to see that muchfamily literally all over the
world.
That's right.

Robin (49:11):
Yeah, and I think just African Americans, it's just,
we're everywhere, we'reeverywhere Just fascinating
stories of how did they do that,how did you get there, and I
think that's one of the.
I think that's just in mynature and it seems like yours
too.
We're just curious people.
And you know I told you I wentto school I was going to be a

(49:33):
journalist.
I did other things but I'vealways had that spirit of
curiosity and I think this hasbeen another thing that's just
always kind of bugged me, thatthis mystery I can't solve.

Tracey (49:45):
This mystery.

Robin (49:46):
I can't figure out, and so to be in it and be this close
, and you know, we got the nameand that's what we want.
We got the name and now we justgot to find everybody else and
I think for me, like, like Isaid, I think all I really want
next is a picture and I reallywant to speak with someone who

(50:08):
knew him.
I mean, that's, you know, whatwas he like?
Did he play sports, did he sing?
I mean, you know?

Tracey (50:19):
yeah, cause that'll be interesting to find somebody who
knew him.
That's right To see, becausethere's a lot of things that I
do that I know didn't come frommy mom.
Me too, absolutely.

Robin (50:31):
It had to come from him.
Yes, and I'll tell you anotherthing.
You know how, like me and my exand me and my ex are very close
and we raised our kids and youknow we say all the time you get
that from your mother, you getthat from your father.
I think back I've never once inmy whole life heard my mother
say you get that from yourfather or you look like your

(50:54):
father or ever, ever.
And I think people you know ina marriage, in a family, that's
very common.
People do that all the time.
All that's because even with mydaughters they make a face,
they say something.
I'm like that is your daddy.
You are looking just like yourdaddy right now and I never
heard that.
So, again everything about thisman.
They were protective, it wastaboo.

Tracey (51:15):
They didn't discuss it.
They did not discuss him.
It was like he just disappeared, like Bigfoot.
He might be Bigfoot, he mightbe Bigfoot.

Robin (51:27):
So again, I mean, those are the answers.
I don't think we're ever goingto get those answers.
I don't think that's going toever be written down or
documented anything unless wemeet someone that he knew, that
knew our moms right.
And that's a possibility.
He might have sisters, he mighthave something.
So I'll tell you a really funnystory.
So we my uncle died and we allwent to the funeral and this man

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came and he was just like oh, Iwas, I saw this in the paper
and I just had to come.
We were roommates and you know,blah, blah, blah.
And so we were like, oh okay,so we come back to the house and
we're talking about it andeverybody's like, no, he didn't
have that's not true.
We don't know that man.
And so the whole family justmakes up this whole thing that
he's those people that go tofunerals.

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And so we're like oh my God, hedid that.
Why would he do that?
So we're just all freaking out,everybody saying, no, he didn't
have any roommates, he didn'tthis, he didn't that.
And then here comes my mom.
She's like yeah, he lived insuch and such an apartment.
He did have a roommate.
So it was just interesting howyou're just making up all this
stuff and one person has thatanswer.

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One person.
So this man was an innocent,wonderful person who saw this in
the newspaper and said I haveto go, you know, pay my respects
, and we're just making him outto be a villain.
He's crazy.
And here comes this one person,the one connection and that's
what I'm saying about this.
It's just going to be that oneperson, that one somebody that

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knows something, yep, and I justknow that that's going to
happen.

Tracey (53:01):
What if it's one of us?
It's going to be a sibling,it's going to be his oldest kid.

Robin (53:08):
Exactly.

Tracey (53:10):
Yes, and they're going to know everything.

Robin (53:12):
Yes.

Tracey (53:12):
And then we're going to be sitting there with our mouths
wide open.

Robin (53:14):
Yeah, I hope so.
I hope you're right.
I hope you know, because youalways wonder and we know,
especially for women, that womennormally know you know, they
know that there has been a babyor an affair or it's very rare
that they're just completelyblindsided, especially if
there's a child involved.

Tracey (53:35):
Absolutely.

Robin (53:36):
So you know what I think with our second sister.
It would have been great if hermom was still alive, because
she might not remember anything,but her mom could have told us
a lot.
So you got all cases.
These three women are gone.
Right, so it's very difficultfor us to get anybody with that

(53:57):
knowledge.
So many questions we're truckingalong exactly I'm not worried
at all, that is, it's not allgoing to be revealed that is
more.
I'm more confident about that,I'm more settled in my soul
about that than I've ever beenso and I'm just excited.

Tracey (54:21):
It's to the point now where, yeah, it's overwhelming
some days, but I do get excitedabout just finding new ones,
because you know we get matchesevery week and I just sit there
and look like, okay, who's this?

Robin (54:32):
Yeah, who's this?
Yeah, it seems to be just busyright now.

Tracey (54:38):
It does.

Robin (54:39):
Because I just got an email today and it said you have
a match.
You have a match.
So you know I'm.
It just seems like there's alot of activity.

Tracey (54:47):
Yeah.

Robin (54:48):
So you know, is that in our head or is that happening?
I think it's been a lot ofmatches lately it's been from,
yeah, definitely.
So it's just getting top onesLike what was the guy the other
day?
Was he a first cousin orsomething?

Tracey (55:01):
He was a first cousin, so we're still trying to figure
out where he came from.
That one we have to talk to.
That was a loop.

Robin (55:09):
Very big mystery that we got to find out, so can't wait
to talk to him, but I just feellike it's been active lately.

Tracey (55:16):
So that's a good thing, that's a good thing.

Robin (55:18):
Because some somebody's out there looking for.
I mean, if there are more of usthat you know wasn't in the
marriage or whatever, thensomebody's out there looking too
, yeah, Right.
So I just again want to justshout out to our nephew, who
just sounds like an amazingperson, amazing person, yeah,
and when I asked his mother,well why was he on there, Is he

(55:41):
looking for his parents?
And she's like no, he knows bothof his parents.
He's just one of those people.
He wants to know everythingabout life, he wants to track
his DNA, he wants to know hisheritage.
So I just thought about thatand said that's my nephew and he
just sounds amazing and I lovethat.

Tracey (55:58):
So we definitely want to meet him Definitely, and I love
that.

Robin (56:00):
So we definitely want to meet him.
Definitely, definitely, we canfind him.

Tracey (56:02):
He's a world traveler.
He's like Carmen Sandiego whenin the world is nephew?
That's right.

Robin (56:06):
Where in the world is nephew?
But just that just fascinatedme when she was talking about
him.

Tracey (56:12):
Yeah.

Robin (56:12):
Yeah, and I love that.
You know she just said I'm veryhonest with my kids.
They know exactly, you knowwhat, what, what my history is
and whatever, and I love thatbecause that's what we wanted
from our mother and that's whatwe gave.

Tracey (56:26):
I think all three of us gave to our children.
That's right.

Robin (56:30):
Yeah.

Tracey (56:30):
We all made that, that open door policy, and just said
you know, it is what it is.

Robin (56:37):
That's right.
It's not your fault.
You didn't do anything wrong,but that's interesting, that
that is a connection between thethree of us we're all very
straight up with our kids andshe said that on the call.
She said I tell my childreneverything.
They know exactly where they'refrom.
Who's this?
No secrets.
And I was thinking that's not acoincidence.

Tracey (56:59):
That's not, that's not.
Well, that's not a coincidence,that's not, that's not no.
Well, that's a good place toend.
That hour went by fast, didn'tit?
It did, wow, I did it, wow, youdid it.
And, truth be told y'all, it'sabout time for us to go get
something to eat.
But I want to thank you, bigsister of mine, for joining me

(57:20):
on the charging station.
Is there any last?
I don't want to say that, no,anything, you want to leave with
the audience?

Robin (57:30):
You know I think it's just the same cliche stuff Like
don't give up on your dreams,don't give up on you know, just
don't give up.
I guess that's it I am.
You know, and this is probablyway too much information, but I
will be 60 years old next year60 and fine honey.
And, wow, I'm just finding outwho this person is.

(57:52):
So I just think don't give up.

Tracey (57:55):
Don't give up.
No, well, thank you for joining.
Thank you for having me, ofcourse, of course.
Oh well, thank you for joining,thank you for having me, of
course.
So my next, the next visit willbe me going to your home.
Yes, and I get to meet mynieces and nephew and everybody
in person.

Robin (58:14):
oh my gosh they're very excited and they're very crazy.
So I keep telling you everytime I talk to you they are a
nut, they are a nut.
They're a nutty bunch, but funsilly kids.

Tracey (58:26):
I love it.

Robin (58:27):
You're going to love it.

Tracey (58:28):
I'm telling you, we're going to have to do all the
graduations and everything allover again.

Robin (58:34):
Yes, and I said that to my youngest daughter and she
said oh yeah, I would love thatBecause she's a party girl.
She said, yeah, we can get thecake again, let's do it.
I was like, no see, that's bad.

Tracey (58:47):
We have to have birthdays.
Oh my goodness.

Robin (58:51):
We just got to do it all over again.
We're going to have one bigparty and it's going to be
birthdays, graduations,everything.

Tracey (58:56):
I'm good with that.

Robin (58:58):
We'll just have pictures swirling around.

Tracey (59:01):
Here was the 6th birthday.

Robin (59:03):
Here was the 7th birthday .
Here's the graduation.
Here's the baby shower.

Tracey (59:07):
Whole little PowerPoint.

Robin (59:08):
Yeah, I think that'd be great, we can do that.
We can do that.

Tracey (59:11):
Well, guys, we are going to head out and I want to thank
you all, of course, for joiningin, listening to a little
snippet of what I've beenblessed to have for the last two
or three months.
How long has it been?
It's been a minute, yeah, yeah,but we're going to continue our
conversation offline and go getsomething to eat.

(59:32):
But before we sign off,remember God loves you, I love
you.
It ain't nothing you can doabout it.
Boo Bye.