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June 24, 2025 47 mins

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Episode Summary

In this episode of the ChatGPT Experiment, Cary Weston chats with Tom Schwab, the Chief Evangelist Officer of Interview Valet, an agency that helps businesses grow by leveraging podcast interviews. The conversation dives into the evolving landscape of search, particularly how AI and ChatGPT are shifting how potential customers discover businesses. They explore how long-form, collaborative content, especially podcasting, is becoming more valuable not just for human engagement, but for AI-driven discovery as well.

3 Key Takeaways

  • AI Referrals Are Real (and Growing): ChatGPT is now a top source of qualified referrals for Interview Valet. Users are asking it for recommendations, and it’s returning well-ranked sources based on long-form content and sentiment.

  • Long-Form, Collaborative Content Wins: AI and people both value deep, authentic conversations. Podcast interviews, in particular, rank well because they offer substantial, sentiment-rich content.

  • Be Discoverable and Authentic: Businesses should focus on clarity—clearly state who you serve and who you don’t. Creating helpful, honest content (including tone and voice) improves AI visibility and builds trust with real people too.


About Tom Schwab

Tom Schwab is the Chief Evangelist Officer at Interview Valet, a company dedicated to turning podcast interviews into powerful marketing tools. With a background as HubSpot’s first e-commerce case study, Tom brings deep experience in content marketing and audience engagement. He’s a strong advocate for using podcast guest appearances as a way to build share of voice, increase trust, and now—get found by AI.

You can learn more about Tom and his work at Interview Valet, where he offers resources like assessments and free copies of his book Podcast Guest Profits.

Get A Free Copy Of Tom's Book: https://interviewvalet.com/chatgpt/


Cary offers customized one-on-one ChatGPT training in 60 minute sessions. Find out more information on the sessions, answers to frequent questions, and how to register at www.ChatGPTExperiment.com

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Cary's Agency Website: www.CMWeston.com
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