November 11, 2024 • 61 mins
After the election results were posted and Donald Trump was declared the winner, Terri, like millions of people who supported Kamala Harris, became despondent, depressed, and disillusioned. She called up her friend Traci, The Hilarious Hypnotist, and requested a session in hopes of not only helping herself get through the disappointment, but to also help others find peace in very uncertain times. Traci has worked with several clients on both sides of the political spectrum and knows that when someone vehemently hates a political candidate, it's because that candidate emulates the same mannerisms and behaviors as someone from their past. A few targeted questions, and Terri revealed a story about her ex-husband and Traci was able to connect the dots. Traci also touches on how the media and politics use "The Dark Arts of Hypnosis" to persuade their viewers to believe their narrative.
KEY POINTS:
- Terri shares the difficulties she's had in dealing with the election results.
- Terri wishes she could go back to a time when politics didn't matter to her because she never paid attention.
- Terri shares the story how her ex-husband literally kicked her to the curb, leaving her with nothing.
-Terri shares some details about her personal life, and how she gets her news from "comedy" sources like The View, Jimmy Kimmel, and Stephen Colbert.
-Terri admits she has trouble finding joy, despite having a great husband, a beautiful house, and has everything she could ever want.
QUOTABLES :
- I think I've always considered myself to be an impact that I feel other people's emotions, and so I just feel like I'm feeling everybody's fear.
- I wish I could go back to when I didn't watch the news, wasn't involved in politics, and none of it mattered. I I've always held the belief for years and years that didn't matter who the president is, I decide my economics, I decide my money. I decide how my life is going to be, and whoever's President really doesn't affect me. And so I never voted. I never paid attention.
- Typically, when people have a strong hate towards someone that they've technically never met, it's a reminder of someone in their past that hurt them just wearing another pair of shoes.
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Traci Kanaan (00:04):
Music, none of what happens on this podcast is
planned in advance. My guests,my clients, are real people with
incredible stories. They aregraciously sharing their
hypnosis session and theirhealing journey with you the
listener, you will experiencefirsthand their highs, their
(00:26):
lows and their laps. Hello andwelcome to the hilarious
hypnotist. My name is TracyCanaan, and we have a very
special guest, my dear friendTerry, who is here, she called
me up, I don't know, about a dayafter the election results came
in. So we're taping this.November 8 election results came
(00:47):
out. What the sixth, and likemany people, Terry is having a
rough time with the electionresults, so she called me up. It
says, anything you can do tohelp me find my joy again would
be appreciated. She says, I wantto be on the podcast, because if
this helps other people findtheir joy, we're all good. So
that's where we are, is that.Did I miss anything? No,
(01:09):
absolutely. Okay. All right. Sowhat we're going to do in this
case, I'm going to first putdown your name here, so I have
your notes and all that. Andlet's go through like what
you're experiencing right now.So you were just telling me, one
(01:30):
of your neighbors has a Trumpflag flying, and that triggers
Terri (01:35):
you. On the way here, saw somebody with a flag flying,
saying, Trump won, and I just, Ican't even describe the anger
and the sadness and the upset,anger,
Traci Kanaan (01:51):
sadness, upset. And then when you called me, you
were like, it was like divorcingmy ex husband, yeah, it feels
like going through a divorce.Going through a divorce, Okay,
what else are you experiencing?So you saw the flag, any kind of
(02:15):
trigger? Okay, obviously Trumphimself is a trigger. Yeah,
okay.
Terri (02:21):
I love Facebook, and I look at it a lot, and when I
click on like AOL or onFacebook, first thing that pops
up is his orange face, and itjust, I just can't believe, I
just can't believe that itturned out this way. Okay,
(02:42):
cannot believe that people don'tunderstand and realize what he's
going to do to this country andto them.
Traci Kanaan (02:51):
Okay, can't believe it turned out this way.
Can't believe what he's going todo to this country. Did I hear
that can't believe what he'sgoing to do to country and them?
(03:13):
Yes. Okay, what are some of thespecifics that you find most
horrifying.
Terri (03:26):
I think I've always considered myself to be an
impact that I feel otherpeople's emotions, and so I just
feel like I'm feelingeverybody's fear. I don't have
any fear for myself, unless theytake away my social security,
(03:46):
but I really don't have any fearof what's going to happen to me,
my children or my grandchildren,but I worry about all the women
that cannot have an abortion,the LGBTQ community, it's going
to be illegal to be a, you know,a trans person, that they're
(04:09):
going to get rid of FEMA,they're going to get rid of so
many things that help so manypeople in our Country. And
unless you are extremelywealthy, you're screwed. And
what's sad is the majority ofthe people that voted for him
are going to be screwed over theworst, and they just don't
(04:31):
realize and I don't understandwhy they don't see it, or don't
understand it.
Traci Kanaan (04:42):
Don't understand
what it's going to do to them.I.
I don't see it.
Terri (05:06):
I'm on one of the sites. I'm on Facebook. I mean, just
post after post is people. Imean, one moment she hasn't been
out of bed in two days. Youknow? I just the hundreds and
(05:26):
hundreds of people feelingexactly the way that I feel.
Traci Kanaan (05:32):
It's probably millions, millions, yes, I'm
guessing, yeah, maybe the 65million that voted for Kamala. I
What can I ask? What news youwatch, like, what stations,
Terri (05:55):
a little bit of all of them, you know? Okay, turn on
Fox every now and then for agood laugh, okay? But otherwise,
little bit of all of them,
Traci Kanaan (06:10):
okay, CNN, MSNBC,
Terri (06:14):
cares was a Cooper, the guy Cooper, you know what? His
payments, his show we used towatch it. Oh. Anderson Cooper,
yeah, okay. And I get most of mynews from the view Jimmy Kimmel
and Stephen Colbert, and I'mfinding it hard to even those
are three shows I enjoy themost, and I'm having a hard time
(06:36):
even watching them. Okay? And
Traci Kanaan (06:39):
Stephen Colbert, okay,
okay, that is significant,actually, because I mentioned
you briefly about the dark artsof hypnosis, and both sides are
(07:02):
using it. Both sides are usingit very, very well. So we'll
talk about that a little bittowards the end. Remind me about
the dark arts, because this issomething that people need to be
aware of. How they're they'rebeing manipulated on both sides.
Terri (07:24):
Told me a little bit about that the other day on the
phone. All of a sudden, it waslike, well, if they're being
hypnotized, no wonder they don'tsee it or understand it or
whatever. They've beenprogrammed. Whatever he says is
the truth, and they really don'teven listen to what he says, you
know. And it's kind of hard tobelieve that the other side is
(07:45):
doing the same thing, because itjust makes so much sense. You
know, what she was going to doto help everybody and and, you
know the unity and just, andhe's just anger and revenge.
And, I mean, he would throweverybody, all comedians and the
view everybody on the view, theywould all be in jail if he could
(08:08):
do that, you know. I mean, he'ssuch a dictator, if you don't
agree with him, Off with theirheads. I
Traci Kanaan (08:23):
I'm just taking all this down. Okay, so you've
been mourning basically over theloss, yes, of this for two days.
How would you rather feel?
Terri (08:40):
I wish I could go back to when I didn't watch the news and
I wasn't involved in politicsand none of it mattered. I I've
always held the belief for yearsand years that didn't matter who
the president is, I decide myeconomics, I decide my money. I
(09:05):
decide how my life is going tobe, and whoever's President
really doesn't affect me. And soI never voted. I never paid
attention.
Traci Kanaan (09:17):
Okay, so you wish you could go back
Terri (09:21):
to back to that politics didn't matter. And I don't watch
the news. I
Traci Kanaan (09:26):
never voted.
Terri (09:28):
Now the normal news I don't watch because
Traci Kanaan (09:33):
what's normal news when
Terri (09:35):
we talk about the war or mass shootings or terrible
floods and all that stuff,because I'm such an empath, I
don't watch the news. I feel the
Traci Kanaan (09:51):
news. Okay, so floods, shootings,
Terri (09:55):
other people you don't watch, like my husband, you can
sit there and watch the. He thenews that he's not affected at
all by what he sees, and mystomach said or not, I'm upset.
I'm on I crying as though it'sdirectly affecting me. Okay?
(10:16):
Because I feel like I said, Idon't watch the news. I feel the
news Okay, when they startedwith the whole, you know, the
Warren, and that's the otherthing is like he's just going to
give Ukraine to Putin, and thosepeople are all going to lose
everything
(10:42):
when they started doing that, Ijust, I told Scotty, I said, You
Can I can't see that. I cannothear that and see that. And has
too much of effect on me. Andthere's nothing I can do,
Traci Kanaan (10:55):
nothing I can do the big,
Terri (10:58):
yeah, I mean, just nothing I could do. The only
thing I could do was go vote,which I did, but I can't fix it.
I can't change it. I can't helpthose people.
Traci Kanaan (11:12):
Okay, can't fix it, can't change it, okay, so
going back to that time inpolitics. Didn't matter. What's
your earliest memory of that?
Terri (11:34):
I think my earliest memory of politics was when I
was married to my secondhusband, and he was a
Republican, still is. And so Iwas going to vote Republican,
and my dad was so upset with me,because he had been a Democrat
(11:58):
his whole life, and and I saidto him, but Dad, you don't
understand. You were a laboreryour whole life. I'm a business
owner. Business owners areRepublican. I don't know where I
got that, but that was what Isaid to my dad. And then the
(12:18):
next thing was some good friendsof ours, very, very involved in
politics. And he just, I mean,he came and picked me up and
took me to register, came andgot me and took me to vote, you
know, and I just did whatever hesaid, because your husband. No,
(12:41):
no, no, my friends, your skills,the ex, you know, we voted, and
then this is years later. Again,I didn't pay any attention to
politics or anything. Yearslater, when I met my friends, my
friend Tony, and he was so hewas so political, you know, and
(13:01):
political in
Traci Kanaan (13:02):
a good way or bad way.
Terri (13:06):
Very involved in it, okay, very knowledgeable of it
too, okay? And I think probablythe first time I voted was for
Hillary
Traci Kanaan (13:21):
in 2016 Yeah,
Terri (13:23):
I don't think I even voted for Obama. And my sister
and I have left when, when Obamawas running that now we know why
dad died when he did, because asa Democrat, he wouldn't be able
to vote for a black man, youknow, so and he would not be
(13:44):
able to vote Republican. I
Traci Kanaan (13:49):
actually had a similar situation in my family
with that, where there, therewas the rub that, you know, Die
Hard Democrats, but you know,you don't vote for for black
people, which, yeah, yeah,
Terri (14:10):
you know, well, my dad, it is what it is, having to
fight his way to school and onthe way home from school because
they had to Go through the blackneighborhood to get to school.
Okay, so every day for him was afight,
Traci Kanaan (14:29):
and that sticks with people sometimes. Oh
Terri (14:31):
yeah. I mean, it took me a long time to get over being
prejudiced, and then I had asquatter, and I went right back
to being prejudiced again. Ihave a hard time
Traci Kanaan (14:49):
squatter in your unit. Yeah, yeah, okay, and so
you had to work to separate.Let's. Squatter from the race,
yeah,
Terri (15:03):
okay, never been able. I haven't been able to do it. I've
been by myself being prejudicedever since that. Okay, yeah, got
it, using the N word a lot.Okay,
Traci Kanaan (15:21):
all right, so let me I think this is significant.
Your second husband, who is thisthe one that reminded you of
your divorce?
Terri (15:29):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. He sent me out on the curb.
Okay,
Traci Kanaan (15:36):
he set you out on the curb, yeah? Basically tell
me about that. So the secondhusband, when you broke up or
divorced him, he put you on thecurb, yeah,
Terri (15:51):
okay, and through the divorce, I got nothing. Tenure.
10 years later I did, but at thetime of the divorce, I really
got screwed over.
Traci Kanaan (16:09):
Okay? What happened 10 years later,
Terri (16:14):
he had a piece of property and had been sitting
empty, so I got an attorney, andwe sent him a letter and said,
If he gave me that piece ofproperty free and clear, at the
time, he probably owed me about$400,000 in back alimony and
money that I was supposed to getin the divorce and never got so
(16:35):
I would wipe that sleet clean ifhe gave me that piece of
property free and clear, and itwas a would have been a big
fight, and probably back incourt again, except he was
getting ready to get married. Hewas now a good Christian boy,
Catholic boy, and she knewnothing about his past life.
Traci Kanaan (16:58):
Okay, so you got this piece of property, yeah,
Terri (17:03):
and brought in money every month, you know? Yeah, all
Traci Kanaan (17:08):
right, so there was that, okay.
Terri (17:12):
So I ended up better off by waiting, because now this, I
get money every month, which Iwould have had to fight him
constantly for,
Traci Kanaan (17:24):
and that's your money. Free and Clear. Yeah,
it's all yours. Yes, all right,okay. It always amazes me asking
the right questions. So here'smy quick synopsis. All right,
because typically, when peoplehave a strong hate towards
(17:48):
someone that they've technicallynever met, it's a reminder of
someone in their past that hurtthem just wearing another pair
of shoes. So this isn't to saythat Trump is Trump, okay, yeah,
but the fact that, when you saidthat, it reminded you of your
(18:12):
divorce, my I would ding.
Terri (18:15):
Well, the thing that reminds me of it is is I knew I
remember how hard it was in thebeginning, when I got set on the
curb and I went and got a littlestudio place, and I'm sitting
there in this little, tinystudio, and this other woman has
my home, my husband, my dog, mylife has everything, and I'm
(18:37):
sitting there with nothing, andI feel Like just this big black
hole in front of me. You know? Imean, because every day I got
up, first thing I did was callhim, what do you need for me to
do today? Go the bank or go getparts or do whatever? What am I
going to make for dinner? All mythoughts, everything was wrapped
(18:59):
around him and our relationship,and now that was gone and and
now down the road, like I said,I don't remember how long it
took. The interesting thingabout that you'll love this,
well, it took a long time,because time heals everything,
(19:23):
and the first few days is alwaysgoing to be the hardest. But I
decided to call you because,rather than me, this takes six
months to get over this, I'dlike to get over it now. Yeah,
you know, and I know that allyou have to do is look at
(19:44):
something from a differentperspective, for the whole thing
to shift. Yep, when I was goingthrough the divorce with him, I
took a friend to go pick up herbicycle and where it was. The
lady was a psychic, and we werejust sitting, just having tea
and visit. Sitting, and myfriend says her, yeah, Terry's
going through a rough time. Shesaid she just had some woman
(20:06):
steal her husband away from her.And she grabbed my arm, but she
said, No, no, no, no, nothingwas stolen from you. You have
been set free. And I was like,Oh my God. I had wanted to be
out of that relationship forquite a while, but I didn't have
(20:29):
the balls to do it myself. Soalong comes this woman who did
it for me, and I'd been set freeand from I still had some anger
I still had because of goingthrough the divorce thing, but
the whole thing shifted for me.I went from being a victim to
being a victor, Victor, youknow, I've been set free. Wow.
(20:53):
She did me a favor,
Traci Kanaan (20:56):
you know, indeed. And you know what was
Terri (20:58):
interesting, we had been married 15 years, 15 years later
to the month he did the samething to her, set her out on the
curb.
Traci Kanaan (21:08):
Okay, sorry,
Terri (21:12):
but so I know that if you can look at something from a
different angle, because if youonly see an elephant from the
ass end. That's, that's not,that's all you see, yeah, yeah.
And somebody takes you around tothe front. You're like, oh my
god, there's eyes and a trunk,you know?
Traci Kanaan (21:30):
So, so here's what I see. Okay, yeah, this, this is
Trump. Is your ex husbandreincarnated. This is somebody
who was Republican, ChristianCatholic, which resembles the
(21:51):
conservatives,
Terri (21:54):
please, Christian Catholic now he wasn't. Then he
was a cheater and a drunk,
Traci Kanaan (21:58):
okay, yeah.
Terri (22:01):
Well, same thing, exactly. Yep, cheater.
Traci Kanaan (22:04):
And maybe not a drunk, yeah, not a drunk, um,
but, but there's, there'sanother, yeah, you know,
possible similarity, um, and nowhe's taken everything that you
work so hard for and took itaway and left you on the curb.
Yeah, that's, that's thesimilarity. Yeah, it's, and it's
(22:29):
one of those things that youdon't see it, because this one
happened over, you know, years,couple of decades. But this is
kind of like your second husbandcoming back, and that's why this
was so upsetting. Yeah, I thinkbecause most and I find this a
lot like I had a client who wasalso had to get a new phone and
(22:54):
a new TV. Why he threw his phoneat the TV? I go, what were you
watching? He goes, I waswatching the news. I go, who was
on the news? He goes Trump, andthen we tracked it back. And he
grew up in New York and wasbullied. And the words, the
phrases, were bullying, and tofurther compound his misery, his
(23:16):
he was taking care of his wife.He was being told what to do by
doctors. There was all thesethings where he was just being
bullied by doctors, byphysicians. You don't know what
you're doing for your wife, andthen he goes home and he hears
it on the news, and he just, helost it. And you know, so Trump
(23:37):
was the trigger, but notnecessarily the cause. It was
all these old wounds of bullyingcoming back well,
Terri (23:44):
and I noticed that I trigger very easily and get very
angry. There's a couple thatwere good friends of mine. I
thought my best friends, andthey enabled the squatter, and I
haven't spoken to them since,but when I see them, that anger
(24:07):
comes right back up. Is rightthere.
Traci Kanaan (24:14):
Okay, so let's go through the triggers, because I
want to start to neutralize thetrigger. So what are things that
like when you hear it, see it,feel it, you just like
Terri (24:29):
right now? Is anything to do with Trump?
Traci Kanaan (24:31):
Okay? Yeah,
Terri (24:38):
seeing people that have betrayed me in the past.
Traci Kanaan (24:46):
Okay, like your best. Yeah, so
Terri (24:50):
the squatter enablers, yeah, those friends come. I
can't think of anything elseright now. Um.
Traci Kanaan (25:02):
I said, you're an empath, so when you see things
going on,
Terri (25:06):
because I have really learned to just kind of like not
allow that stuff into my youknow, I turn off the news. We
don't really watch the news, perse. It's more like Anderson
Cooper Facebook.
Traci Kanaan (25:21):
Yeah, you know, what's the funny news? The
Terri (25:23):
funny news, okay, yeah, a lot of my news is funny. I that
was what my friends was like. Idon't watch the news. I get my
news from Jay Leno and the view,okay, because they're going to
put a funny spin on it, and Ican deal with that.
Traci Kanaan (25:45):
Okay, all right,
let's try and take this down.We're gonna do let's try this.
Okay, first of all, what we'regoing to do, I want you to think
(26:06):
of this election, all right, I'mnot going to leave you here, but
what I want to do is build itup, because then it just comes
down. Yeah,
Terri (26:16):
I
Traci Kanaan (26:23):
let me get some funny stuff first. Let
Terri (26:25):
me just say this too. I think lot of it, the upset was,
is that I kept saying there's noway he can win. The last time,
Biden beat him by a lot, thosepeople who voted for Biden are
not going to vote Republican. Somany Republicans came out and
said they were voting Democrat,you know, and then you had, like
(26:47):
the and the singer and she had1000s of people who registered
to vote and voting, you know,how could he possibly win? It
just, it's, it's mind bogglingto me. I really thought it was
going to be a blue landslide. Ireally, really do. Yeah, that
Traci Kanaan (27:08):
surprised a lot of people.
Terri (27:11):
I kept saying, the polls just cannot be right. Who are
they? Nobody's ever asked me.Who are they asking, you know,
and they asked like, 100 people,and then take their information
from that,
Traci Kanaan (27:23):
and the polls plays into the dark arts of
hypnosis, because if they keepit even, it keeps you watching
the news. Oh, yeah, exactly,yeah. You know it. They reel it
in that. So there was noincentive to tell you what they
were truly finding out becausethey lose their funding,
Terri (27:44):
yeah, and back when Biden did the thing with him, my
brain, what's the word? They gotup and both spoke the debate,
the debate. I was so depressedafter that, I said, That's it.
(28:06):
I'm not watching any more news.I'm not I'm disengaged. I've got
to disengage from this, becauseit did not look good at all. It
went exactly the opposite of howthought it was going to go.
Yeah, and then when he droppedout, and Kamala stepped in, and
that energy, I said, in a lot ofpeople, a lot of friends, I
(28:31):
didn't realize how depressed Iwas until she stepped in, and
all of a sudden, there was alight at the end of the rental,
yeah, there was hope, there wasexcitement, there was the
energy, and I got sucked rightback into it.
Traci Kanaan (28:54):
Okay, what are some things that were you that
make you happy? And they had youlike dogs?
Terri (29:07):
Well, you know, that's an interesting thing, too. I've
been really going throughfinding my joy. I have an
incredible life. I don't havefinancial problems. I have no
(29:28):
relationship problems. I have anincredible relationship,
beautiful home, a nice littlegetaway, place that we go to on
the weekends. And I haveeverything that I've ever
wanted, and yet I don't seem toreally be happy.
Traci Kanaan (29:49):
Now I knew you had given up some 420 is that
maintained?
Terri (29:57):
No, okay, yeah, with. I went back last Christmas. We
made it been a full year ofzero, nothing at all, and we
watched the Willie Nelsonbirthday celebration, and him
and Snoop Dogg talking about it,you know, and he made the
(30:21):
comment, or at least it was whatI heard, life is too short to
not be stoned. Life is too shortto not get high. And I went, you
know what? Fuck it. I'm the onedecided not to. I can decide to
do it. And so I went back and alittle bit. And then I started
(30:43):
having some help. I thought itwas having chs. I didn't know if
it was that, or if it washormones that weren't regulated
or what, but I was and then whenI looked it up, everything I was
feeling was withdrawal frommarijuana. So I was back when I
(31:05):
quit. When this came up, when Ilooked it up, it was something
called CHS that a lot of people,you reach a point to where it
has the opposite effect on yourbody. It's making me nauseous,
upset, having like, hot panicattacks. I was waking up every
morning with a panic attack andhorrible, horrible stomach
(31:29):
stuff, until I threw up, andthen I would be okay for the
rest of day. I was living onXanax and ibuprofen, and we went
on a cruise. Came back, I gotreal sick, and I opened my thing
is, and it smelled terrible tome, and I met in that moment, I
(31:54):
made the decision, I'm done, andI didn't touch it again for a
year. And like I said, then theWillie Nelson thing, and I got
back down, and I'm trying to notget back to being awake and bake
okay before, like I was mytolerance that I had because I
(32:19):
smoked when I got up in themorning, till I went to bed, if
I woke up in the middle. Then ifI woke up in the middle of the
night, I would take a couple ofhits. Now I take I have to
remind myself, one's enough. Twois too much, because I have very
little tolerance to it. Okay. Infact, one day I said, Do you
(32:40):
know how to get six to eightgorgeous boy toys in your house
at one time? Call 911 so I hadan episode, and Scotty called
911 Yeah, and when they gotthere, he didn't even know. And
I said, I got up that morningreally kind of depressed and
(33:06):
down because some good friendsof ours, I came down every other
month to see us. Now we're goingto be able to come till in
January. I don't know justeverything. I just battling this
depression and and I said, Youknow what I'm and I went in
there with before I ate oranything, and I took a couple
really big hits off of the vapepen, and man, it hit me really
(33:31):
hard. Scotty thought I washaving a stroke, so that's why
he called 911. Okay, yeah. Andwhen they got there, I said, I
think this is what happened. AndI got my card out and shut him.
I got my card, you know, I'mlegal, but I think that I
indulge too much. And he goes,Oh, yeah, we see this a lot.
Traci Kanaan (33:52):
Okay, so, so since then, you're still, yeah, today,
Terri (33:57):
every now and then, you know, okay, usually not too late
afternoon. I don't know. There'sjust something about it that it
just kind of gives me that shiftin my energy, my attitude. I
really I missed it the wholeyear. I mean, there was a day I
(34:18):
don't think I didn't miss havingit, okay, but I didn't want to
get back onto that addiction ofit and wake and bake, which I
was afraid if I took that firsthit, it would just be a matter
of time before I would be backto wake and bacon all day long.
Okay, so I'm resisting that now.I'm trying to manage that and
(34:44):
got it, but it does seem to seemto help. Okay, all right, so
Traci Kanaan (34:51):
finding joy. No financials. You got a great guy.
You have everything along
Terri (34:56):
perfect life. I really, really do, okay, I just can't
forget I came for. Out why I'mnot happy and excited. You know,
my My biggest issue is trying toget up in the mornings. Okay?
And I discovered something theother day with all with all this
Trump stuff, I'd wake up in themorning and it's like, right
(35:17):
there on my face, and it's like,just go back to sleep. I'm a
great procrastinator. So I canprocrastinate getting up,
because once I get up, then Igotta face reality. And the
truth of it is, I don't reallygo back to sleep, sleep and my
(35:38):
brain, it's like, I finally getup, because I have to get up.
And then I find after I've beenup for a little while, and move
around and doing stuff and madesome phone calls and stuff, it's
it's gone, it's gone out of mymind. So the longer I sleep does
not mean I'm going to feelbetter when I get up, right? It
(35:59):
has no impact whatsoever. Got toget moving, you know, and yet,
and every night I go, tomorrowmorning, I'm going to get up and
I'm going to and Scotty leaves,and I'm sitting there, and I
look over at the couch. I lookat the bed. I got nothing that I
have to do, nothing I reallywant to do. Pocket I'm going
(36:24):
back to the couch and I go layback down on the couch and go
back to sleep. Okay, then when Ifinally get up and moving
around, I'm like, God damn it,why don't I just get up? I could
get seduce because then there'sall these things I want to do,
and I don't have time to do it,okay? Because I spent the
morning on the couch.
Traci Kanaan (36:42):
All right, okay, all right, let's start knocking
some of this out. That's what Iwant to do. Okay, all right, so
what we're going to do, you'regonna do what I do. Say what I
(37:02):
say, it's gonna we're gonna do aseries of, you know, hand and
face stuff. And then if I giveyou a suggestion that doesn't
feel right, go ahead and changeit so that it works for you.
Should I come across somethingif I don't word it in such a
way? Okay? So the first thingwe're going to do is build this
up a little bit. All right, so Iwant you to think about the last
(37:26):
two days, how upset you've been.You were sure there was going to
be a blue landslide, and itended up not being that at all.
It reminded you of going throughyour divorce, your second
husband, who is Republican,who's a cheater and a drunk, and
(37:47):
then became a conservativeChristian All right, left you on
the curb, left you with nothing.You didn't get anything until
like 10 years later, and itworked out, but it was still a
rough 10 years and you woke upone day. Sorry. It was
Terri (38:07):
20 years later. 20 years later. Okay,
Traci Kanaan (38:12):
you woke up and all of a sudden your husband had
a new wife. Had your dog in yourhouse, everything. Had
everything. You were in a tinystudio sitting with nothing, um,
and think about how all thisties together. You got that? You
get those feelings, okay, thatbeing upset. I wish I could go
(38:34):
back to that time where politicsdidn't matter. I'm angry. I see
the Trump flags. I have peoplegloating. I'm anger. I'm angry,
I'm sad. I'm upset every time Isee Trump's face or hear his
words or that orange face. Ican't believe it turned out this
way. I can't believe what he'sgoing to do to this country. I
(38:57):
can't believe what he's going todo to the people that voted for
him. I have this fear forothers. I'm okay, but what
happens if he takes away SocialSecurity this women can't have
an abortion, making it illegalto be a trans person. He's going
to get rid of FEMA unless he'sextremely unless you're
(39:19):
extremely wealthy, you'rescrewed. People don't understand
what it's going to do to them,and they just don't see it. I
saw on TV a woman didn't get outof bed for two days. I feel bad
for these comedians, becausethey won't be able to express
what they want, because he'll besuch a dictator, he's going to
just hand Ukraine to Putin.Okay, what are you experiencing?
(39:41):
You got that? Hear it? Okay. Ican't even watch normal news
because the floods, theshootings. I'm an empath that
directly affects me. There'snothing I can do. I can't fix
it. I can't change it. Got that,okay? At a scale of zero.
Doesn't bother you at all toattend. It bothers you a lot.
(40:03):
Where would it be?
Terri (40:05):
Oh, right. Now, I'm at a 1010, okay,
Traci Kanaan (40:08):
got that? Yeah. All right. Now, what happens
when we take the roots out fromunderneath the tree? It falls
over, falls over and dies. Good.All right, so get ready. Do what
I do say what? I say, okay,okay. I release all the angers,
fears and judgments. I releaseall the angers, fears and
judgments, the abandonments andbetrayals, abandonments and
(40:31):
betrayals, these feelings of nocontrol, these feelings of no
control, the hopelessness andthe helplessness, the
hopelessness and thehelplessness and everything else
and everything else. I let itgo.
Terri (40:43):
I let it go.
Traci Kanaan (40:44):
I let go of my second husband who left me on
the curb. I
Terri (40:47):
let go of my second husband who left me on the curb.
Traci Kanaan (40:50):
I let go of the orange man who's leaving
everybody else on the curb.
Terri (40:53):
I let go of the orange man who's leaving leaving
everybody else on the curb. I'mgoing
Unknown (40:58):
to be okay. Gonna be okay. A lot of other people are
going to be okay too. A lot ofother people are going to be
okay too. I can start to letthis go. I can start to let this
go. It's okay to let this go.It's okay to let this go. I got
through the Bush years,
Terri (41:14):
I got through the Bush years,
Traci Kanaan (41:16):
I got through the Obama years. Got through the
Obama years, I got through theClinton years? Yeah, those are
all good ones. Yeah, okay. Whohad? Oh, I got through the four
years of Trump before, yeah,yeah, definitely, yeah. We got
through it. Okay. So I can beginto let this go. I can let this
go. It's safe to let it go. It'ssafe to let it go. It's okay to
(41:36):
let it go. It's okay to let itgo. And then take a nice, deep
breath in, grab your wrist, blowit away and say peace to what?
Blow it away and say Peace.
Terri (41:49):
Peace.
Traci Kanaan (41:54):
Good. You were in a tent. Did that come down a
little you
No, it's still there. It's okay.It's a lot of hurt when it's
old. It goes way deep. Okay,what are you experiencing now?
Terri (42:19):
I'm afraid to let it go. Oh, okay,
Traci Kanaan (42:23):
I'm afraid to let it go. Okay, ready for this,
okay, I'm afraid to let it go.
Terri (42:30):
I'm afraid to let it go. Who
Traci Kanaan (42:31):
am I if I'm not this, who am I if I'm not this?
I love feeling shitty.
Terri (42:37):
I love feeling shitty.
Traci Kanaan (42:42):
I know you don't,
Terri (42:48):
but maybe I do. Maybe I do.
What's the payoff in that? Yeah,I I don't have to be productive.
Oh,
Traci Kanaan (43:06):
look at that. Yeah, have to be productive.
Terri (43:10):
I don't have to be productive, I
Unknown (43:11):
guess, sit in my shit and stew, yeah, I can sit in my
shit and stew, yeah. And maybeit's okay to do that for a
little bit. Maybe it's okay todo that for a little bit. Maybe
it's okay to let it go. Maybeit's okay to let it go. Maybe
it's safe to let it go when I'mready.
Terri (43:29):
Safe to let it go when I'm ready. I can be a shit
stewar for a little bit. I canbe a shit store for a little
bit.
Traci Kanaan (43:37):
Lord knows, I like to stew up other people's shit.
Sometimes I can
Terri (43:43):
even hear that
Traci Kanaan (43:46):
you like to stew up other people's shit.
Sometimes, I've seen you do iton Facebook. Don't lie to me.
Unknown (43:53):
Oh yeah,
Terri (44:00):
yeah, that's for sure.
Traci Kanaan (44:02):
Yep, someone stewed my shit. Someone's doing
my shit. They stood it good.
Terri (44:07):
They stood it good.
Traci Kanaan (44:08):
I see it now.
Terri (44:09):
I see it now.
Traci Kanaan (44:11):
It's okay to let it go. It's okay to let it go.
We all take our turn in this. We
Terri (44:15):
all take our turn in this.
Traci Kanaan (44:17):
Unsafe. I'm safe, I'm gonna be okay, I'm going to
be okay. Other people are goingto be okay. Other people are
going to be okay. There's 65million people who are going to
be watching what that man does.Going to be 65 million people
watching what that man does.It's going to be okay. It's
going to be okay, good. Take anice, deep breath in, grab your
(44:39):
wrist, throw it away, and saypeace, peace. Goodness is coming
down.
Terri (44:50):
The thing that you just said about 65 million people
watched him, I don't thinkthat's going to have any effect,
because he's going to put peoplearound him that just do whatever
he says. You know it? Yeah,well, we have we're hopeless,
we're helpless. Doesn't matter.There's 65 million of us. There
(45:12):
are even more people who thinkthey want him to do all that
stuff.
Traci Kanaan (45:17):
But there's that, the fudge factor, okay, the
independence. The pendulumswings right. The pendulum
swings and this way it swung inthe way you didn't expect it to.
It will swing back just like itswung over that way in 2016
(45:40):
Okay, in 2020 it swung back, andwho knows, in 2028 it might
swing back again.
Terri (45:47):
I'm gonna be 80 fucking years old by then. That seems
like forever from now. See, justthe thought of this for four
years is just I, just my braingoes, How am I gonna do this?
How am I gonna
Traci Kanaan (46:04):
but here's the other truth, nothing's happened
yet,
Terri (46:10):
nothing's happened yet,
Traci Kanaan (46:13):
nothing's happened yet,
Terri (46:14):
nothing's happened yet,
Traci Kanaan (46:16):
this is all conjecture.
Terri (46:18):
This is all conjecture. I don't know what that word means,
conjecture
Traci Kanaan (46:21):
means it's all. People have told you what's
going to happen, but it's nothappened. And just because
people told you it's going tohappen doesn't mean it's going
to happen. They're putting itout there as if it's truth. This
is what's going to happen. It'sthe dark arts of hypnosis. Okay,
(46:46):
they're putting it out there.This is what's going to happen.
This is what he's going to do.And that keeps you watching
their news.
Terri (46:54):
Well, like they said, He's because the House and the
Senate and everything, there'snothing the Democrats can do.
How can they stop him? How canthey How can we have any control
over him? And what he does
Traci Kanaan (47:07):
the All I can say is, when he goes too far, it's
going to swing back, becausethat's what happens. It's all a
pendulum before
Terri (47:22):
they took those kids away from their parents and put them
in those in those cages.
Traci Kanaan (47:29):
So I fact checked that that was actually during
the Obama years. Those picturesthat were taken,
Terri (47:39):
no because he put that one guy, Steven, whatever his
name is, in charge, and they didall that. No, really, no,
Traci Kanaan (47:51):
there's a little bit of fact checking going on.
And again, the dark arts ofhypnosis trying to manipulate
you to further a point to getyour money in. Okay, so the dark
arts, dark arts of hypnosis. Imeant to write a blog on it last
night. So when you read newsarticles, okay, one of the
(48:15):
things I've really picked up onMSNBC, but they all do it, Fox
News, CNN, they put somethingout as news, okay, but news is
not. Trump is going to maketransgenders illegal. That
hasn't even happened, but itappears said, but that's what
(48:38):
he's going
Terri (48:39):
to do. You have to decide. You have to be either a
boy or a girl, and whatever itis that birth assigned you,
that's going to be the law.
Traci Kanaan (48:49):
But it hasn't happened yet, but they're
putting it out there. Will it?May it happen? I don't know.
Possibly. I think if he getsenough pushback, it's not going
to happen, but the dark arts ofhypnosis, they're constantly
manipulating you, and in thisround, the Conservatives played
(49:13):
a better game of it, you know,so Fox News, I love it. I love I
read. I read CNN and I read FoxNews, and I am amazed that what
CNN thinks is important is verydifferent from what Fox News
thinks is important. Oh, god,that's why we watch it for a
good laugh, right? So Fox Newsis heavily funded by ads from
(49:38):
conservative companies. Okay?The CNN heavily funded by ads
for mostly liberal companies.Okay, so you have they each have
their agenda. They got to playto their base. Yeah, that's it,
because that's how the moneykeeps rolling in when people
watch only Fox News. That'stheir world. When people only
(50:04):
watch MSNBC, that becomes theirworld. And all those opinions
that are done by the talkingheads, that's news, they're
still opinions. It's what theythink is going to happen, and
then when you hear it enough,you're sure it's going to
happen, because you've heard itover and over, yeah for two
(50:26):
years, yeah, watching the news.So that's that's all about the
dark arts of hypnosis, and it'sgetting to manipulate you to act
in such a way. Okay? Now, wherethings went wrong, isolated
incidents. Okay? When you wantto win an argument, probably
calling someone garbage is notthe way to go. I've never known
(50:50):
a time when I can attack You'rea piece of shit. Why don't you
agree with me? Never happened?Trying a little nicer way about
it would have, would havebenefited the Democrats in that
aspect.
Terri (51:10):
No, no, but wait a minute, it's Trump, the one that
called everybody idiots andgarbage and and he made fun of
everybody. I mean, he talkedlike a fourth grader. Yes, you
know, name calling and, youknow, and out, out lies. But
Traci Kanaan (51:31):
look who identified with it, and look who
identified with Kamala. I waswatching the thing today that
typically laborers identifiedwith Trump because he speaks
very plainly, very succinctlyand very easy to understand bite
(51:54):
sized concepts. Kamala reallydid well with college educated
and higher people. Oh, yeah.
Terri (52:05):
And one of the sorry, those people are too stupid to
know that they're being connedagain, you know, they're
uneducated, they're they're, youknow, it's like, I just like,
just like, can't get it. I justcan't get
Traci Kanaan (52:19):
so the other, the other way of looking at it is
that sometimes concepts aren'tready. So for instance, think
back, I vaguely remember in the80s when the AIDS epidemic came
out. Yeah, okay, you didn't talkabout that. You saw it in the
(52:41):
news quite a bit, yeah, but asfar as the gay culture was very,
very hush hush. And then it was,like, a little bit, little bit
more pronounced, and then yousaw it a little bit more and
then it got shut down with theAIDS epidemic. And then once
they figured out the AIDS thing,it came back, and it was a
little bit more accepted. So I'mtrying to think of other things
(53:05):
where so I entertained swingersand nudists for many, many years
as a comedian, and with theswingers and the nudists, for me
to go out there and go,everybody should be a swinger.
Everybody should fuck strangers.It's it's fun. Everybody should
do it. And people are gonna belike, Hmm, no, I'm not there.
(53:29):
Okay, they're not there. Theymay not be there for a week.
They may not be there for 10years, but over time, like when
I first started performing forswingers and nudists as a
comedian, hush hush. Don't talkabout it. And now it's so on the
internet, it's just become alittle bit more accepted. Yeah.
So I think a lot of the thingsthat our tenants to the
(53:52):
Democrats aren't, they'rethey're just not accepted yet.
It just hasn't been out therelong enough people haven't had
enough time to do theirresearch, digest it, wrap their
heads around it, and beatingthem over the head with it, is
probably not the way to go, butI think giving it a little bit
of time, and then certainaspects of that will either work
(54:16):
or it won't. If that makessense, it's just it takes time
to wrap your head around aconcept, and especially with
like, transgenders, nobodytalked about it. You know,
transgenders back in the 80s.Was Tootsie, I think Dustin
Hoffman and it didn't RobinWilliam was Mrs. Doubtfire.
Yeah, yeah, that wastransgenders back then,
Terri (54:41):
well, and they weren't actually transgender, yeah,
stressing. They were crossdressing. They were playing a
part so they could be dowhatever. Yeah, it was like a
manipulation. I'll be a woman,and then they'll hire me to be
in the soap opera. Yeah, youknow, I'll be a woman, and then.
My ex wife will let me be aroundthe kids. Yeah, you know. So
(55:04):
that one only wasn't eventransgender, yeah? No, no, it
wasn't talked about at all,yeah.
Traci Kanaan (55:11):
But now, as it's become more, little bit more
prevalent, now it's being talkedabout, and that's good, yeah,
and that's good. So it justmight be too far a step. Like,
when I first tell people I'venever met, oh yeah, I entertain
swingers and OH Some peoplelike, oh yeah, that's just
(55:31):
outside my comfort zone. Andlike, I got a call from Airbnb
on one of my rentals today, andI was telling him that I was a
comedian for first wingers, andhe was like, wow, really? What?
What's that about? You know, hewas open to it. So it just, I
think it takes time for some ofthese ideas to get out there.
(55:52):
And then the other thing is thatyou have to wait for the other
side to screw up, okay? And Ithink if Trump truly does all
the things that you're worriedabout, you're going to see some
pushback, you're going to seesome pushback, and you'll see
that election go in a totallydifferent direction. So it's
(56:14):
just all part of that we're injust such a different place. And
I just think of how, like, Idated a guy in high school who
ended up being gay, okay, and Ijoke about it, who's 1987 I
needed to look taken. He neededto look straight. You're the
perfect couple. And then, like,four years later, he came out,
(56:40):
and he I just wanted to tell youI'm gay, and I'm like, I know,
and I still love you. Is really?I said, Yeah, I figured it out.
And then, sure enough, a lot ofmy other friends and, you know,
high school, I figured out aswell, but they weren't ready to
talk about it, because theyweren't accepted. I had another
(57:01):
client who was gay, lived ahermit life for 10 years, went
to work, did his job, came back,painted his toenails, dressed up
as a woman, whatever his lifewas, and through our work, I
(57:22):
encouraged him to tell hisfolks, tell his friends, let him
know who he really is. I said,the ones that were meant to love
you will love you, and the onesthat aren't won't, and it's
okay. He went and toldeverybody, and they all embraced
him with open arms, and he wasso excited. And then he came
(57:44):
back and he goes, I'm mad that Ididn't do it sooner. I said 10
years ago, it was a differentculture. Yeah, you might not
have been as well accepted 10years ago, because it just
wasn't out there as much as itwas. So maybe the timing, trust
the timing and that it had tohappen exactly when it did, so
that you were welcome with openarms, because that might not
(58:05):
have been the case 10 years ago.Yeah, so, so a mandarin
conversation, but these are likelittle things that go into this.
It's not like that's whathappened. It's like all these
little things that added up,yeah, over time. And so back to
(58:26):
the dark arts. The Conservativesplayed it very, very well. The
Democrats did not play it aswell. You know, as far as the
and I think they took some boldsteps that I think just people
weren't ready for. So again,from the Fox News side of
(58:52):
things, drag queen. Drag Queenstory hour, I think might have
been a little bit too far of areach for middle America. What
was one of the other things thetransgenders and women's sports?
(59:13):
I don't think you know. I don'tthink that that seemed to be an
issue that the liberal side waspushing. I don't think
conservatives were ready forthat.
Terri (59:22):
Oh, got it. Okay?
Traci Kanaan (59:23):
So I think it was just little. When you add up
what you think you're getting, Ithink that's what happened. They
went issue by issue. What'simportant, what's not okay, I'm
paying everybody
Terri (59:36):
was more worried about the price of milk and eggs,
right? Which is not affected bythe president whatsoever, or the
brace of gas, I don't think hasanything to do with who's
Traci Kanaan (59:47):
president, yeah, you know. But some, some of the
the policies that the Presidentgets to vote on do affect those
things. And I think that's what,that's where the. Pushback was,
is that, you know, I don'treally, you know. So we have,
you know, transgender or dragqueens reading the children. We
(01:00:09):
have men playing in women'ssports, and my groceries are
twice as much. And who's the onepushing that the Democrats are
in office? So it was pushback,yeah, okay. And just says, you
know, Biden won the election.There was things going on in the
four Trump years, COVID thatthey blamed on Trump. And, you
(01:00:32):
know, Trump didn't develop
Terri (01:00:34):
nobody. Didn't know anything about it, and he lied
to us, yeah,
Traci Kanaan (01:00:39):
so there was pushback from on Trump with the
Biden. That's how Biden got inoffice. So it's just, it's that
pendulum that swings, and itsucks right now, but it may
swing back and and, you know,people will find their their
center point again. I
(01:01:09):
um, what do you want to do withthis? Do you want to keep it
inside, or do you want to getrid of it? Oh, I want to get rid
of get rid of it. Okay, thissounds weird as hell. Play
along, pull it out, and if youcan't, pull it, just pull out a
little piece.
Unknown (01:01:35):
I.
Music, none of what happens on this podcast is
planned in advance. My guests,my clients, are real people with
incredible stories. They aregraciously sharing their
hypnosis session and theirhealing journey with you the
listener, you will experiencefirsthand their highs, their
(00:26):
lows and their laps. Hello andwelcome to the hilarious
hypnotist. My name is TracyCanaan, and we have a very
special guest, my dear friendTerry, who is here, she called
me up, I don't know, about a dayafter the election results came
in. So we're taping this.November 8 election results came
(00:47):
out. What the sixth, and likemany people, Terry is having a
rough time with the electionresults, so she called me up. It
says, anything you can do tohelp me find my joy again would
be appreciated. She says, I wantto be on the podcast, because if
this helps other people findtheir joy, we're all good. So
that's where we are, is that.Did I miss anything? No,
(01:09):
absolutely. Okay. All right. Sowhat we're going to do in this
case, I'm going to first putdown your name here, so I have
your notes and all that. Andlet's go through like what
you're experiencing right now.So you were just telling me, one
(01:30):
of your neighbors has a Trumpflag flying, and that triggers
Terri (01:35):
you. On the way here, saw somebody with a flag flying,
saying, Trump won, and I just, Ican't even describe the anger
and the sadness and the upset,anger,
Traci Kanaan (01:51):
sadness, upset. And then when you called me, you
were like, it was like divorcingmy ex husband, yeah, it feels
like going through a divorce.Going through a divorce, Okay,
what else are you experiencing?So you saw the flag, any kind of
(02:15):
trigger? Okay, obviously Trumphimself is a trigger. Yeah,
okay.
Terri (02:21):
I love Facebook, and I look at it a lot, and when I
click on like AOL or onFacebook, first thing that pops
up is his orange face, and itjust, I just can't believe, I
just can't believe that itturned out this way. Okay,
(02:42):
cannot believe that people don'tunderstand and realize what he's
going to do to this country andto them.
Traci Kanaan (02:51):
Okay, can't believe it turned out this way.
Can't believe what he's going todo to this country. Did I hear
that can't believe what he'sgoing to do to country and them?
(03:13):
Yes. Okay, what are some of thespecifics that you find most
horrifying.
Terri (03:26):
I think I've always considered myself to be an
impact that I feel otherpeople's emotions, and so I just
feel like I'm feelingeverybody's fear. I don't have
any fear for myself, unless theytake away my social security,
(03:46):
but I really don't have any fearof what's going to happen to me,
my children or my grandchildren,but I worry about all the women
that cannot have an abortion,the LGBTQ community, it's going
to be illegal to be a, you know,a trans person, that they're
(04:09):
going to get rid of FEMA,they're going to get rid of so
many things that help so manypeople in our Country. And
unless you are extremelywealthy, you're screwed. And
what's sad is the majority ofthe people that voted for him
are going to be screwed over theworst, and they just don't
(04:31):
realize and I don't understandwhy they don't see it, or don't
understand it.
Traci Kanaan (04:42):
Don't understand
what it's going to do to them.I.
I don't see it.
Terri (05:06):
I'm on one of the sites. I'm on Facebook. I mean, just
post after post is people. Imean, one moment she hasn't been
out of bed in two days. Youknow? I just the hundreds and
(05:26):
hundreds of people feelingexactly the way that I feel.
Traci Kanaan (05:32):
It's probably millions, millions, yes, I'm
guessing, yeah, maybe the 65million that voted for Kamala. I
What can I ask? What news youwatch, like, what stations,
Terri (05:55):
a little bit of all of them, you know? Okay, turn on
Fox every now and then for agood laugh, okay? But otherwise,
little bit of all of them,
Traci Kanaan (06:10):
okay, CNN, MSNBC,
Terri (06:14):
cares was a Cooper, the guy Cooper, you know what? His
payments, his show we used towatch it. Oh. Anderson Cooper,
yeah, okay. And I get most of mynews from the view Jimmy Kimmel
and Stephen Colbert, and I'mfinding it hard to even those
are three shows I enjoy themost, and I'm having a hard time
(06:36):
even watching them. Okay? And
Traci Kanaan (06:39):
Stephen Colbert, okay,
okay, that is significant,actually, because I mentioned
you briefly about the dark artsof hypnosis, and both sides are
(07:02):
using it. Both sides are usingit very, very well. So we'll
talk about that a little bittowards the end. Remind me about
the dark arts, because this issomething that people need to be
aware of. How they're they'rebeing manipulated on both sides.
Terri (07:24):
Told me a little bit about that the other day on the
phone. All of a sudden, it waslike, well, if they're being
hypnotized, no wonder they don'tsee it or understand it or
whatever. They've beenprogrammed. Whatever he says is
the truth, and they really don'teven listen to what he says, you
know. And it's kind of hard tobelieve that the other side is
(07:45):
doing the same thing, because itjust makes so much sense. You
know, what she was going to doto help everybody and and, you
know the unity and just, andhe's just anger and revenge.
And, I mean, he would throweverybody, all comedians and the
view everybody on the view, theywould all be in jail if he could
(08:08):
do that, you know. I mean, he'ssuch a dictator, if you don't
agree with him, Off with theirheads. I
Traci Kanaan (08:23):
I'm just taking all this down. Okay, so you've
been mourning basically over theloss, yes, of this for two days.
How would you rather feel?
Terri (08:40):
I wish I could go back to when I didn't watch the news and
I wasn't involved in politicsand none of it mattered. I I've
always held the belief for yearsand years that didn't matter who
the president is, I decide myeconomics, I decide my money. I
(09:05):
decide how my life is going tobe, and whoever's President
really doesn't affect me. And soI never voted. I never paid
attention.
Traci Kanaan (09:17):
Okay, so you wish you could go back
Terri (09:21):
to back to that politics didn't matter. And I don't watch
the news. I
Traci Kanaan (09:26):
never voted.
Terri (09:28):
Now the normal news I don't watch because
Traci Kanaan (09:33):
what's normal news when
Terri (09:35):
we talk about the war or mass shootings or terrible
floods and all that stuff,because I'm such an empath, I
don't watch the news. I feel the
Traci Kanaan (09:51):
news. Okay, so floods, shootings,
Terri (09:55):
other people you don't watch, like my husband, you can
sit there and watch the. He thenews that he's not affected at
all by what he sees, and mystomach said or not, I'm upset.
I'm on I crying as though it'sdirectly affecting me. Okay?
(10:16):
Because I feel like I said, Idon't watch the news. I feel the
news Okay, when they startedwith the whole, you know, the
Warren, and that's the otherthing is like he's just going to
give Ukraine to Putin, and thosepeople are all going to lose
everything
(10:42):
when they started doing that, Ijust, I told Scotty, I said, You
Can I can't see that. I cannothear that and see that. And has
too much of effect on me. Andthere's nothing I can do,
Traci Kanaan (10:55):
nothing I can do the big,
Terri (10:58):
yeah, I mean, just nothing I could do. The only
thing I could do was go vote,which I did, but I can't fix it.
I can't change it. I can't helpthose people.
Traci Kanaan (11:12):
Okay, can't fix it, can't change it, okay, so
going back to that time inpolitics. Didn't matter. What's
your earliest memory of that?
Terri (11:34):
I think my earliest memory of politics was when I
was married to my secondhusband, and he was a
Republican, still is. And so Iwas going to vote Republican,
and my dad was so upset with me,because he had been a Democrat
(11:58):
his whole life, and and I saidto him, but Dad, you don't
understand. You were a laboreryour whole life. I'm a business
owner. Business owners areRepublican. I don't know where I
got that, but that was what Isaid to my dad. And then the
(12:18):
next thing was some good friendsof ours, very, very involved in
politics. And he just, I mean,he came and picked me up and
took me to register, came andgot me and took me to vote, you
know, and I just did whatever hesaid, because your husband. No,
(12:41):
no, no, my friends, your skills,the ex, you know, we voted, and
then this is years later. Again,I didn't pay any attention to
politics or anything. Yearslater, when I met my friends, my
friend Tony, and he was so hewas so political, you know, and
(13:01):
political in
Traci Kanaan (13:02):
a good way or bad way.
Terri (13:06):
Very involved in it, okay, very knowledgeable of it
too, okay? And I think probablythe first time I voted was for
Hillary
Traci Kanaan (13:21):
in 2016 Yeah,
Terri (13:23):
I don't think I even voted for Obama. And my sister
and I have left when, when Obamawas running that now we know why
dad died when he did, because asa Democrat, he wouldn't be able
to vote for a black man, youknow, so and he would not be
(13:44):
able to vote Republican. I
Traci Kanaan (13:49):
actually had a similar situation in my family
with that, where there, therewas the rub that, you know, Die
Hard Democrats, but you know,you don't vote for for black
people, which, yeah, yeah,
Terri (14:10):
you know, well, my dad, it is what it is, having to
fight his way to school and onthe way home from school because
they had to Go through the blackneighborhood to get to school.
Okay, so every day for him was afight,
Traci Kanaan (14:29):
and that sticks with people sometimes. Oh
Terri (14:31):
yeah. I mean, it took me a long time to get over being
prejudiced, and then I had asquatter, and I went right back
to being prejudiced again. Ihave a hard time
Traci Kanaan (14:49):
squatter in your unit. Yeah, yeah, okay, and so
you had to work to separate.Let's. Squatter from the race,
yeah,
Terri (15:03):
okay, never been able. I haven't been able to do it. I've
been by myself being prejudicedever since that. Okay, yeah, got
it, using the N word a lot.Okay,
Traci Kanaan (15:21):
all right, so let me I think this is significant.
Your second husband, who is thisthe one that reminded you of
your divorce?
Terri (15:29):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. He sent me out on the curb.
Okay,
Traci Kanaan (15:36):
he set you out on the curb, yeah? Basically tell
me about that. So the secondhusband, when you broke up or
divorced him, he put you on thecurb, yeah,
Terri (15:51):
okay, and through the divorce, I got nothing. Tenure.
10 years later I did, but at thetime of the divorce, I really
got screwed over.
Traci Kanaan (16:09):
Okay? What happened 10 years later,
Terri (16:14):
he had a piece of property and had been sitting
empty, so I got an attorney, andwe sent him a letter and said,
If he gave me that piece ofproperty free and clear, at the
time, he probably owed me about$400,000 in back alimony and
money that I was supposed to getin the divorce and never got so
(16:35):
I would wipe that sleet clean ifhe gave me that piece of
property free and clear, and itwas a would have been a big
fight, and probably back incourt again, except he was
getting ready to get married. Hewas now a good Christian boy,
Catholic boy, and she knewnothing about his past life.
Traci Kanaan (16:58):
Okay, so you got this piece of property, yeah,
Terri (17:03):
and brought in money every month, you know? Yeah, all
Traci Kanaan (17:08):
right, so there was that, okay.
Terri (17:12):
So I ended up better off by waiting, because now this, I
get money every month, which Iwould have had to fight him
constantly for,
Traci Kanaan (17:24):
and that's your money. Free and Clear. Yeah,
it's all yours. Yes, all right,okay. It always amazes me asking
the right questions. So here'smy quick synopsis. All right,
because typically, when peoplehave a strong hate towards
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someone that they've technicallynever met, it's a reminder of
someone in their past that hurtthem just wearing another pair
of shoes. So this isn't to saythat Trump is Trump, okay, yeah,
but the fact that, when you saidthat, it reminded you of your
(18:12):
divorce, my I would ding.
Terri (18:15):
Well, the thing that reminds me of it is is I knew I
remember how hard it was in thebeginning, when I got set on the
curb and I went and got a littlestudio place, and I'm sitting
there in this little, tinystudio, and this other woman has
my home, my husband, my dog, mylife has everything, and I'm
(18:37):
sitting there with nothing, andI feel Like just this big black
hole in front of me. You know? Imean, because every day I got
up, first thing I did was callhim, what do you need for me to
do today? Go the bank or go getparts or do whatever? What am I
going to make for dinner? All mythoughts, everything was wrapped
(18:59):
around him and our relationship,and now that was gone and and
now down the road, like I said,I don't remember how long it
took. The interesting thingabout that you'll love this,
well, it took a long time,because time heals everything,
(19:23):
and the first few days is alwaysgoing to be the hardest. But I
decided to call you because,rather than me, this takes six
months to get over this, I'dlike to get over it now. Yeah,
you know, and I know that allyou have to do is look at
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something from a differentperspective, for the whole thing
to shift. Yep, when I was goingthrough the divorce with him, I
took a friend to go pick up herbicycle and where it was. The
lady was a psychic, and we werejust sitting, just having tea
and visit. Sitting, and myfriend says her, yeah, Terry's
going through a rough time. Shesaid she just had some woman
(20:06):
steal her husband away from her.And she grabbed my arm, but she
said, No, no, no, no, nothingwas stolen from you. You have
been set free. And I was like,Oh my God. I had wanted to be
out of that relationship forquite a while, but I didn't have
(20:29):
the balls to do it myself. Soalong comes this woman who did
it for me, and I'd been set freeand from I still had some anger
I still had because of goingthrough the divorce thing, but
the whole thing shifted for me.I went from being a victim to
being a victor, Victor, youknow, I've been set free. Wow.
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She did me a favor,
Traci Kanaan (20:56):
you know, indeed. And you know what was
Terri (20:58):
interesting, we had been married 15 years, 15 years later
to the month he did the samething to her, set her out on the
curb.
Traci Kanaan (21:08):
Okay, sorry,
Terri (21:12):
but so I know that if you can look at something from a
different angle, because if youonly see an elephant from the
ass end. That's, that's not,that's all you see, yeah, yeah.
And somebody takes you around tothe front. You're like, oh my
god, there's eyes and a trunk,you know?
Traci Kanaan (21:30):
So, so here's what I see. Okay, yeah, this, this is
Trump. Is your ex husbandreincarnated. This is somebody
who was Republican, ChristianCatholic, which resembles the
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conservatives,
Terri (21:54):
please, Christian Catholic now he wasn't. Then he
was a cheater and a drunk,
Traci Kanaan (21:58):
okay, yeah.
Terri (22:01):
Well, same thing, exactly. Yep, cheater.
Traci Kanaan (22:04):
And maybe not a drunk, yeah, not a drunk, um,
but, but there's, there'sanother, yeah, you know,
possible similarity, um, and nowhe's taken everything that you
work so hard for and took itaway and left you on the curb.
Yeah, that's, that's thesimilarity. Yeah, it's, and it's
(22:29):
one of those things that youdon't see it, because this one
happened over, you know, years,couple of decades. But this is
kind of like your second husbandcoming back, and that's why this
was so upsetting. Yeah, I thinkbecause most and I find this a
lot like I had a client who wasalso had to get a new phone and
(22:54):
a new TV. Why he threw his phoneat the TV? I go, what were you
watching? He goes, I waswatching the news. I go, who was
on the news? He goes Trump, andthen we tracked it back. And he
grew up in New York and wasbullied. And the words, the
phrases, were bullying, and tofurther compound his misery, his
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he was taking care of his wife.He was being told what to do by
doctors. There was all thesethings where he was just being
bullied by doctors, byphysicians. You don't know what
you're doing for your wife, andthen he goes home and he hears
it on the news, and he just, helost it. And you know, so Trump
(23:37):
was the trigger, but notnecessarily the cause. It was
all these old wounds of bullyingcoming back well,
Terri (23:44):
and I noticed that I trigger very easily and get very
angry. There's a couple thatwere good friends of mine. I
thought my best friends, andthey enabled the squatter, and I
haven't spoken to them since,but when I see them, that anger
(24:07):
comes right back up. Is rightthere.
Traci Kanaan (24:14):
Okay, so let's go through the triggers, because I
want to start to neutralize thetrigger. So what are things that
like when you hear it, see it,feel it, you just like
Terri (24:29):
right now? Is anything to do with Trump?
Traci Kanaan (24:31):
Okay? Yeah,
Terri (24:38):
seeing people that have betrayed me in the past.
Traci Kanaan (24:46):
Okay, like your best. Yeah, so
Terri (24:50):
the squatter enablers, yeah, those friends come. I
can't think of anything elseright now. Um.
Traci Kanaan (25:02):
I said, you're an empath, so when you see things
going on,
Terri (25:06):
because I have really learned to just kind of like not
allow that stuff into my youknow, I turn off the news. We
don't really watch the news, perse. It's more like Anderson
Cooper Facebook.
Traci Kanaan (25:21):
Yeah, you know, what's the funny news? The
Terri (25:23):
funny news, okay, yeah, a lot of my news is funny. I that
was what my friends was like. Idon't watch the news. I get my
news from Jay Leno and the view,okay, because they're going to
put a funny spin on it, and Ican deal with that.
Traci Kanaan (25:45):
Okay, all right,
let's try and take this down.We're gonna do let's try this.
Okay, first of all, what we'regoing to do, I want you to think
(26:06):
of this election, all right, I'mnot going to leave you here, but
what I want to do is build itup, because then it just comes
down. Yeah,
Terri (26:16):
I
Traci Kanaan (26:23):
let me get some funny stuff first. Let
Terri (26:25):
me just say this too. I think lot of it, the upset was,
is that I kept saying there's noway he can win. The last time,
Biden beat him by a lot, thosepeople who voted for Biden are
not going to vote Republican. Somany Republicans came out and
said they were voting Democrat,you know, and then you had, like
(26:47):
the and the singer and she had1000s of people who registered
to vote and voting, you know,how could he possibly win? It
just, it's, it's mind bogglingto me. I really thought it was
going to be a blue landslide. Ireally, really do. Yeah, that
Traci Kanaan (27:08):
surprised a lot of people.
Terri (27:11):
I kept saying, the polls just cannot be right. Who are
they? Nobody's ever asked me.Who are they asking, you know,
and they asked like, 100 people,and then take their information
from that,
Traci Kanaan (27:23):
and the polls plays into the dark arts of
hypnosis, because if they keepit even, it keeps you watching
the news. Oh, yeah, exactly,yeah. You know it. They reel it
in that. So there was noincentive to tell you what they
were truly finding out becausethey lose their funding,
Terri (27:44):
yeah, and back when Biden did the thing with him, my
brain, what's the word? They gotup and both spoke the debate,
the debate. I was so depressedafter that, I said, That's it.
(28:06):
I'm not watching any more news.I'm not I'm disengaged. I've got
to disengage from this, becauseit did not look good at all. It
went exactly the opposite of howthought it was going to go.
Yeah, and then when he droppedout, and Kamala stepped in, and
that energy, I said, in a lot ofpeople, a lot of friends, I
(28:31):
didn't realize how depressed Iwas until she stepped in, and
all of a sudden, there was alight at the end of the rental,
yeah, there was hope, there wasexcitement, there was the
energy, and I got sucked rightback into it.
Traci Kanaan (28:54):
Okay, what are some things that were you that
make you happy? And they had youlike dogs?
Terri (29:07):
Well, you know, that's an interesting thing, too. I've
been really going throughfinding my joy. I have an
incredible life. I don't havefinancial problems. I have no
(29:28):
relationship problems. I have anincredible relationship,
beautiful home, a nice littlegetaway, place that we go to on
the weekends. And I haveeverything that I've ever
wanted, and yet I don't seem toreally be happy.
Traci Kanaan (29:49):
Now I knew you had given up some 420 is that
maintained?
Terri (29:57):
No, okay, yeah, with. I went back last Christmas. We
made it been a full year ofzero, nothing at all, and we
watched the Willie Nelsonbirthday celebration, and him
and Snoop Dogg talking about it,you know, and he made the
(30:21):
comment, or at least it was whatI heard, life is too short to
not be stoned. Life is too shortto not get high. And I went, you
know what? Fuck it. I'm the onedecided not to. I can decide to
do it. And so I went back and alittle bit. And then I started
(30:43):
having some help. I thought itwas having chs. I didn't know if
it was that, or if it washormones that weren't regulated
or what, but I was and then whenI looked it up, everything I was
feeling was withdrawal frommarijuana. So I was back when I
(31:05):
quit. When this came up, when Ilooked it up, it was something
called CHS that a lot of people,you reach a point to where it
has the opposite effect on yourbody. It's making me nauseous,
upset, having like, hot panicattacks. I was waking up every
morning with a panic attack andhorrible, horrible stomach
(31:29):
stuff, until I threw up, andthen I would be okay for the
rest of day. I was living onXanax and ibuprofen, and we went
on a cruise. Came back, I gotreal sick, and I opened my thing
is, and it smelled terrible tome, and I met in that moment, I
(31:54):
made the decision, I'm done, andI didn't touch it again for a
year. And like I said, then theWillie Nelson thing, and I got
back down, and I'm trying to notget back to being awake and bake
okay before, like I was mytolerance that I had because I
(32:19):
smoked when I got up in themorning, till I went to bed, if
I woke up in the middle. Then ifI woke up in the middle of the
night, I would take a couple ofhits. Now I take I have to
remind myself, one's enough. Twois too much, because I have very
little tolerance to it. Okay. Infact, one day I said, Do you
(32:40):
know how to get six to eightgorgeous boy toys in your house
at one time? Call 911 so I hadan episode, and Scotty called
911 Yeah, and when they gotthere, he didn't even know. And
I said, I got up that morningreally kind of depressed and
(33:06):
down because some good friendsof ours, I came down every other
month to see us. Now we're goingto be able to come till in
January. I don't know justeverything. I just battling this
depression and and I said, Youknow what I'm and I went in
there with before I ate oranything, and I took a couple
really big hits off of the vapepen, and man, it hit me really
(33:31):
hard. Scotty thought I washaving a stroke, so that's why
he called 911. Okay, yeah. Andwhen they got there, I said, I
think this is what happened. AndI got my card out and shut him.
I got my card, you know, I'mlegal, but I think that I
indulge too much. And he goes,Oh, yeah, we see this a lot.
Traci Kanaan (33:52):
Okay, so, so since then, you're still, yeah, today,
Terri (33:57):
every now and then, you know, okay, usually not too late
afternoon. I don't know. There'sjust something about it that it
just kind of gives me that shiftin my energy, my attitude. I
really I missed it the wholeyear. I mean, there was a day I
(34:18):
don't think I didn't miss havingit, okay, but I didn't want to
get back onto that addiction ofit and wake and bake, which I
was afraid if I took that firsthit, it would just be a matter
of time before I would be backto wake and bacon all day long.
Okay, so I'm resisting that now.I'm trying to manage that and
(34:44):
got it, but it does seem to seemto help. Okay, all right, so
Traci Kanaan (34:51):
finding joy. No financials. You got a great guy.
You have everything along
Terri (34:56):
perfect life. I really, really do, okay, I just can't
forget I came for. Out why I'mnot happy and excited. You know,
my My biggest issue is trying toget up in the mornings. Okay?
And I discovered something theother day with all with all this
Trump stuff, I'd wake up in themorning and it's like, right
(35:17):
there on my face, and it's like,just go back to sleep. I'm a
great procrastinator. So I canprocrastinate getting up,
because once I get up, then Igotta face reality. And the
truth of it is, I don't reallygo back to sleep, sleep and my
(35:38):
brain, it's like, I finally getup, because I have to get up.
And then I find after I've beenup for a little while, and move
around and doing stuff and madesome phone calls and stuff, it's
it's gone, it's gone out of mymind. So the longer I sleep does
not mean I'm going to feelbetter when I get up, right? It
(35:59):
has no impact whatsoever. Got toget moving, you know, and yet,
and every night I go, tomorrowmorning, I'm going to get up and
I'm going to and Scotty leaves,and I'm sitting there, and I
look over at the couch. I lookat the bed. I got nothing that I
have to do, nothing I reallywant to do. Pocket I'm going
(36:24):
back to the couch and I go layback down on the couch and go
back to sleep. Okay, then when Ifinally get up and moving
around, I'm like, God damn it,why don't I just get up? I could
get seduce because then there'sall these things I want to do,
and I don't have time to do it,okay? Because I spent the
morning on the couch.
Traci Kanaan (36:42):
All right, okay, all right, let's start knocking
some of this out. That's what Iwant to do. Okay, all right, so
what we're going to do, you'regonna do what I do. Say what I
(37:02):
say, it's gonna we're gonna do aseries of, you know, hand and
face stuff. And then if I giveyou a suggestion that doesn't
feel right, go ahead and changeit so that it works for you.
Should I come across somethingif I don't word it in such a
way? Okay? So the first thingwe're going to do is build this
up a little bit. All right, so Iwant you to think about the last
(37:26):
two days, how upset you've been.You were sure there was going to
be a blue landslide, and itended up not being that at all.
It reminded you of going throughyour divorce, your second
husband, who is Republican,who's a cheater and a drunk, and
(37:47):
then became a conservativeChristian All right, left you on
the curb, left you with nothing.You didn't get anything until
like 10 years later, and itworked out, but it was still a
rough 10 years and you woke upone day. Sorry. It was
Terri (38:07):
20 years later. 20 years later. Okay,
Traci Kanaan (38:12):
you woke up and all of a sudden your husband had
a new wife. Had your dog in yourhouse, everything. Had
everything. You were in a tinystudio sitting with nothing, um,
and think about how all thisties together. You got that? You
get those feelings, okay, thatbeing upset. I wish I could go
(38:34):
back to that time where politicsdidn't matter. I'm angry. I see
the Trump flags. I have peoplegloating. I'm anger. I'm angry,
I'm sad. I'm upset every time Isee Trump's face or hear his
words or that orange face. Ican't believe it turned out this
way. I can't believe what he'sgoing to do to this country. I
(38:57):
can't believe what he's going todo to the people that voted for
him. I have this fear forothers. I'm okay, but what
happens if he takes away SocialSecurity this women can't have
an abortion, making it illegalto be a trans person. He's going
to get rid of FEMA unless he'sextremely unless you're
(39:19):
extremely wealthy, you'rescrewed. People don't understand
what it's going to do to them,and they just don't see it. I
saw on TV a woman didn't get outof bed for two days. I feel bad
for these comedians, becausethey won't be able to express
what they want, because he'll besuch a dictator, he's going to
just hand Ukraine to Putin.Okay, what are you experiencing?
(39:41):
You got that? Hear it? Okay. Ican't even watch normal news
because the floods, theshootings. I'm an empath that
directly affects me. There'snothing I can do. I can't fix
it. I can't change it. Got that,okay? At a scale of zero.
Doesn't bother you at all toattend. It bothers you a lot.
(40:03):
Where would it be?
Terri (40:05):
Oh, right. Now, I'm at a 1010, okay,
Traci Kanaan (40:08):
got that? Yeah. All right. Now, what happens
when we take the roots out fromunderneath the tree? It falls
over, falls over and dies. Good.All right, so get ready. Do what
I do say what? I say, okay,okay. I release all the angers,
fears and judgments. I releaseall the angers, fears and
judgments, the abandonments andbetrayals, abandonments and
(40:31):
betrayals, these feelings of nocontrol, these feelings of no
control, the hopelessness andthe helplessness, the
hopelessness and thehelplessness and everything else
and everything else. I let itgo.
Terri (40:43):
I let it go.
Traci Kanaan (40:44):
I let go of my second husband who left me on
the curb. I
Terri (40:47):
let go of my second husband who left me on the curb.
Traci Kanaan (40:50):
I let go of the orange man who's leaving
everybody else on the curb.
Terri (40:53):
I let go of the orange man who's leaving leaving
everybody else on the curb. I'mgoing
Unknown (40:58):
to be okay. Gonna be okay. A lot of other people are
going to be okay too. A lot ofother people are going to be
okay too. I can start to letthis go. I can start to let this
go. It's okay to let this go.It's okay to let this go. I got
through the Bush years,
Terri (41:14):
I got through the Bush years,
Traci Kanaan (41:16):
I got through the Obama years. Got through the
Obama years, I got through theClinton years? Yeah, those are
all good ones. Yeah, okay. Whohad? Oh, I got through the four
years of Trump before, yeah,yeah, definitely, yeah. We got
through it. Okay. So I can beginto let this go. I can let this
go. It's safe to let it go. It'ssafe to let it go. It's okay to
(41:36):
let it go. It's okay to let itgo. And then take a nice, deep
breath in, grab your wrist, blowit away and say peace to what?
Blow it away and say Peace.
Terri (41:49):
Peace.
Traci Kanaan (41:54):
Good. You were in a tent. Did that come down a
little you
No, it's still there. It's okay.It's a lot of hurt when it's
old. It goes way deep. Okay,what are you experiencing now?
Terri (42:19):
I'm afraid to let it go. Oh, okay,
Traci Kanaan (42:23):
I'm afraid to let it go. Okay, ready for this,
okay, I'm afraid to let it go.
Terri (42:30):
I'm afraid to let it go. Who
Traci Kanaan (42:31):
am I if I'm not this, who am I if I'm not this?
I love feeling shitty.
Terri (42:37):
I love feeling shitty.
Traci Kanaan (42:42):
I know you don't,
Terri (42:48):
but maybe I do. Maybe I do.
What's the payoff in that? Yeah,I I don't have to be productive.
Oh,
Traci Kanaan (43:06):
look at that. Yeah, have to be productive.
Terri (43:10):
I don't have to be productive, I
Unknown (43:11):
guess, sit in my shit and stew, yeah, I can sit in my
shit and stew, yeah. And maybeit's okay to do that for a
little bit. Maybe it's okay todo that for a little bit. Maybe
it's okay to let it go. Maybeit's okay to let it go. Maybe
it's safe to let it go when I'mready.
Terri (43:29):
Safe to let it go when I'm ready. I can be a shit
stewar for a little bit. I canbe a shit store for a little
bit.
Traci Kanaan (43:37):
Lord knows, I like to stew up other people's shit.
Sometimes I can
Terri (43:43):
even hear that
Traci Kanaan (43:46):
you like to stew up other people's shit.
Sometimes, I've seen you do iton Facebook. Don't lie to me.
Unknown (43:53):
Oh yeah,
Terri (44:00):
yeah, that's for sure.
Traci Kanaan (44:02):
Yep, someone stewed my shit. Someone's doing
my shit. They stood it good.
Terri (44:07):
They stood it good.
Traci Kanaan (44:08):
I see it now.
Terri (44:09):
I see it now.
Traci Kanaan (44:11):
It's okay to let it go. It's okay to let it go.
We all take our turn in this. We
Terri (44:15):
all take our turn in this.
Traci Kanaan (44:17):
Unsafe. I'm safe, I'm gonna be okay, I'm going to
be okay. Other people are goingto be okay. Other people are
going to be okay. There's 65million people who are going to
be watching what that man does.Going to be 65 million people
watching what that man does.It's going to be okay. It's
going to be okay, good. Take anice, deep breath in, grab your
(44:39):
wrist, throw it away, and saypeace, peace. Goodness is coming
down.
Terri (44:50):
The thing that you just said about 65 million people
watched him, I don't thinkthat's going to have any effect,
because he's going to put peoplearound him that just do whatever
he says. You know it? Yeah,well, we have we're hopeless,
we're helpless. Doesn't matter.There's 65 million of us. There
(45:12):
are even more people who thinkthey want him to do all that
stuff.
Traci Kanaan (45:17):
But there's that, the fudge factor, okay, the
independence. The pendulumswings right. The pendulum
swings and this way it swung inthe way you didn't expect it to.
It will swing back just like itswung over that way in 2016
(45:40):
Okay, in 2020 it swung back, andwho knows, in 2028 it might
swing back again.
Terri (45:47):
I'm gonna be 80 fucking years old by then. That seems
like forever from now. See, justthe thought of this for four
years is just I, just my braingoes, How am I gonna do this?
How am I gonna
Traci Kanaan (46:04):
but here's the other truth, nothing's happened
yet,
Terri (46:10):
nothing's happened yet,
Traci Kanaan (46:13):
nothing's happened yet,
Terri (46:14):
nothing's happened yet,
Traci Kanaan (46:16):
this is all conjecture.
Terri (46:18):
This is all conjecture. I don't know what that word means,
conjecture
Traci Kanaan (46:21):
means it's all. People have told you what's
going to happen, but it's nothappened. And just because
people told you it's going tohappen doesn't mean it's going
to happen. They're putting itout there as if it's truth. This
is what's going to happen. It'sthe dark arts of hypnosis. Okay,
(46:46):
they're putting it out there.This is what's going to happen.
This is what he's going to do.And that keeps you watching
their news.
Terri (46:54):
Well, like they said, He's because the House and the
Senate and everything, there'snothing the Democrats can do.
How can they stop him? How canthey How can we have any control
over him? And what he does
Traci Kanaan (47:07):
the All I can say is, when he goes too far, it's
going to swing back, becausethat's what happens. It's all a
pendulum before
Terri (47:22):
they took those kids away from their parents and put them
in those in those cages.
Traci Kanaan (47:29):
So I fact checked that that was actually during
the Obama years. Those picturesthat were taken,
Terri (47:39):
no because he put that one guy, Steven, whatever his
name is, in charge, and they didall that. No, really, no,
Traci Kanaan (47:51):
there's a little bit of fact checking going on.
And again, the dark arts ofhypnosis trying to manipulate
you to further a point to getyour money in. Okay, so the dark
arts, dark arts of hypnosis. Imeant to write a blog on it last
night. So when you read newsarticles, okay, one of the
(48:15):
things I've really picked up onMSNBC, but they all do it, Fox
News, CNN, they put somethingout as news, okay, but news is
not. Trump is going to maketransgenders illegal. That
hasn't even happened, but itappears said, but that's what
(48:38):
he's going
Terri (48:39):
to do. You have to decide. You have to be either a
boy or a girl, and whatever itis that birth assigned you,
that's going to be the law.
Traci Kanaan (48:49):
But it hasn't happened yet, but they're
putting it out there. Will it?May it happen? I don't know.
Possibly. I think if he getsenough pushback, it's not going
to happen, but the dark arts ofhypnosis, they're constantly
manipulating you, and in thisround, the Conservatives played
(49:13):
a better game of it, you know,so Fox News, I love it. I love I
read. I read CNN and I read FoxNews, and I am amazed that what
CNN thinks is important is verydifferent from what Fox News
thinks is important. Oh, god,that's why we watch it for a
good laugh, right? So Fox Newsis heavily funded by ads from
(49:38):
conservative companies. Okay?The CNN heavily funded by ads
for mostly liberal companies.Okay, so you have they each have
their agenda. They got to playto their base. Yeah, that's it,
because that's how the moneykeeps rolling in when people
watch only Fox News. That'stheir world. When people only
(50:04):
watch MSNBC, that becomes theirworld. And all those opinions
that are done by the talkingheads, that's news, they're
still opinions. It's what theythink is going to happen, and
then when you hear it enough,you're sure it's going to
happen, because you've heard itover and over, yeah for two
(50:26):
years, yeah, watching the news.So that's that's all about the
dark arts of hypnosis, and it'sgetting to manipulate you to act
in such a way. Okay? Now, wherethings went wrong, isolated
incidents. Okay? When you wantto win an argument, probably
calling someone garbage is notthe way to go. I've never known
(50:50):
a time when I can attack You'rea piece of shit. Why don't you
agree with me? Never happened?Trying a little nicer way about
it would have, would havebenefited the Democrats in that
aspect.
Terri (51:10):
No, no, but wait a minute, it's Trump, the one that
called everybody idiots andgarbage and and he made fun of
everybody. I mean, he talkedlike a fourth grader. Yes, you
know, name calling and, youknow, and out, out lies. But
Traci Kanaan (51:31):
look who identified with it, and look who
identified with Kamala. I waswatching the thing today that
typically laborers identifiedwith Trump because he speaks
very plainly, very succinctlyand very easy to understand bite
(51:54):
sized concepts. Kamala reallydid well with college educated
and higher people. Oh, yeah.
Terri (52:05):
And one of the sorry, those people are too stupid to
know that they're being connedagain, you know, they're
uneducated, they're they're, youknow, it's like, I just like,
just like, can't get it. I justcan't get
Traci Kanaan (52:19):
so the other, the other way of looking at it is
that sometimes concepts aren'tready. So for instance, think
back, I vaguely remember in the80s when the AIDS epidemic came
out. Yeah, okay, you didn't talkabout that. You saw it in the
(52:41):
news quite a bit, yeah, but asfar as the gay culture was very,
very hush hush. And then it was,like, a little bit, little bit
more pronounced, and then yousaw it a little bit more and
then it got shut down with theAIDS epidemic. And then once
they figured out the AIDS thing,it came back, and it was a
little bit more accepted. So I'mtrying to think of other things
(53:05):
where so I entertained swingersand nudists for many, many years
as a comedian, and with theswingers and the nudists, for me
to go out there and go,everybody should be a swinger.
Everybody should fuck strangers.It's it's fun. Everybody should
do it. And people are gonna belike, Hmm, no, I'm not there.
(53:29):
Okay, they're not there. Theymay not be there for a week.
They may not be there for 10years, but over time, like when
I first started performing forswingers and nudists as a
comedian, hush hush. Don't talkabout it. And now it's so on the
internet, it's just become alittle bit more accepted. Yeah.
So I think a lot of the thingsthat our tenants to the
(53:52):
Democrats aren't, they'rethey're just not accepted yet.
It just hasn't been out therelong enough people haven't had
enough time to do theirresearch, digest it, wrap their
heads around it, and beatingthem over the head with it, is
probably not the way to go, butI think giving it a little bit
of time, and then certainaspects of that will either work
(54:16):
or it won't. If that makessense, it's just it takes time
to wrap your head around aconcept, and especially with
like, transgenders, nobodytalked about it. You know,
transgenders back in the 80s.Was Tootsie, I think Dustin
Hoffman and it didn't RobinWilliam was Mrs. Doubtfire.
Yeah, yeah, that wastransgenders back then,
Terri (54:41):
well, and they weren't actually transgender, yeah,
stressing. They were crossdressing. They were playing a
part so they could be dowhatever. Yeah, it was like a
manipulation. I'll be a woman,and then they'll hire me to be
in the soap opera. Yeah, youknow, I'll be a woman, and then.
My ex wife will let me be aroundthe kids. Yeah, you know. So
(55:04):
that one only wasn't eventransgender, yeah? No, no, it
wasn't talked about at all,yeah.
Traci Kanaan (55:11):
But now, as it's become more, little bit more
prevalent, now it's being talkedabout, and that's good, yeah,
and that's good. So it justmight be too far a step. Like,
when I first tell people I'venever met, oh yeah, I entertain
swingers and OH Some peoplelike, oh yeah, that's just
(55:31):
outside my comfort zone. Andlike, I got a call from Airbnb
on one of my rentals today, andI was telling him that I was a
comedian for first wingers, andhe was like, wow, really? What?
What's that about? You know, hewas open to it. So it just, I
think it takes time for some ofthese ideas to get out there.
(55:52):
And then the other thing is thatyou have to wait for the other
side to screw up, okay? And Ithink if Trump truly does all
the things that you're worriedabout, you're going to see some
pushback, you're going to seesome pushback, and you'll see
that election go in a totallydifferent direction. So it's
(56:14):
just all part of that we're injust such a different place. And
I just think of how, like, Idated a guy in high school who
ended up being gay, okay, and Ijoke about it, who's 1987 I
needed to look taken. He neededto look straight. You're the
perfect couple. And then, like,four years later, he came out,
(56:40):
and he I just wanted to tell youI'm gay, and I'm like, I know,
and I still love you. Is really?I said, Yeah, I figured it out.
And then, sure enough, a lot ofmy other friends and, you know,
high school, I figured out aswell, but they weren't ready to
talk about it, because theyweren't accepted. I had another
(57:01):
client who was gay, lived ahermit life for 10 years, went
to work, did his job, came back,painted his toenails, dressed up
as a woman, whatever his lifewas, and through our work, I
(57:22):
encouraged him to tell hisfolks, tell his friends, let him
know who he really is. I said,the ones that were meant to love
you will love you, and the onesthat aren't won't, and it's
okay. He went and toldeverybody, and they all embraced
him with open arms, and he wasso excited. And then he came
(57:44):
back and he goes, I'm mad that Ididn't do it sooner. I said 10
years ago, it was a differentculture. Yeah, you might not
have been as well accepted 10years ago, because it just
wasn't out there as much as itwas. So maybe the timing, trust
the timing and that it had tohappen exactly when it did, so
that you were welcome with openarms, because that might not
(58:05):
have been the case 10 years ago.Yeah, so, so a mandarin
conversation, but these are likelittle things that go into this.
It's not like that's whathappened. It's like all these
little things that added up,yeah, over time. And so back to
(58:26):
the dark arts. The Conservativesplayed it very, very well. The
Democrats did not play it aswell. You know, as far as the
and I think they took some boldsteps that I think just people
weren't ready for. So again,from the Fox News side of
(58:52):
things, drag queen. Drag Queenstory hour, I think might have
been a little bit too far of areach for middle America. What
was one of the other things thetransgenders and women's sports?
(59:13):
I don't think you know. I don'tthink that that seemed to be an
issue that the liberal side waspushing. I don't think
conservatives were ready forthat.
Terri (59:22):
Oh, got it. Okay?
Traci Kanaan (59:23):
So I think it was just little. When you add up
what you think you're getting, Ithink that's what happened. They
went issue by issue. What'simportant, what's not okay, I'm
paying everybody
Terri (59:36):
was more worried about the price of milk and eggs,
right? Which is not affected bythe president whatsoever, or the
brace of gas, I don't think hasanything to do with who's
Traci Kanaan (59:47):
president, yeah, you know. But some, some of the
the policies that the Presidentgets to vote on do affect those
things. And I think that's what,that's where the. Pushback was,
is that, you know, I don'treally, you know. So we have,
you know, transgender or dragqueens reading the children. We
(01:00:09):
have men playing in women'ssports, and my groceries are
twice as much. And who's the onepushing that the Democrats are
in office? So it was pushback,yeah, okay. And just says, you
know, Biden won the election.There was things going on in the
four Trump years, COVID thatthey blamed on Trump. And, you
(01:00:32):
know, Trump didn't develop
Terri (01:00:34):
nobody. Didn't know anything about it, and he lied
to us, yeah,
Traci Kanaan (01:00:39):
so there was pushback from on Trump with the
Biden. That's how Biden got inoffice. So it's just, it's that
pendulum that swings, and itsucks right now, but it may
swing back and and, you know,people will find their their
center point again. I
(01:01:09):
um, what do you want to do withthis? Do you want to keep it
inside, or do you want to getrid of it? Oh, I want to get rid
of get rid of it. Okay, thissounds weird as hell. Play
along, pull it out, and if youcan't, pull it, just pull out a
little piece.
Unknown (01:01:35):
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