Adam on 4D Thinking and Guest Hypnotist Carmen Sauciuc on Identity and Feelfulness

Prior to Adam's appearance at the Mid-America Hypnosis Confernce,are Adam is interviewed by Carmen Sauciuc on 4D Thinking and then Carmen shares her thoughts on past life regression, identity and feelfulness.

Details on the conference is here: https://hypnosisconference.org/

Details on Carmen and Feelfiulness are here: https://feelfulness.org/

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to The Hypnotist, the show that gives you inside
access to cutting edge hypnosis with real clients facing genuine
issues. Brought to you by the
Hypnotherapist, Demanded by celebrities CE OS and even
royalty Adam Cox, These recordings took place live from
Evans Clinic in London's world famous Harley Street.

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So get yourself comfortable and enjoy today's episode of The
Hypnotist. Hi, it's Adam here.
You're about to listen to two different interviews.
The 1st is where I'm being interviewed about four
dimensional thinking and then the second is where I interview

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Carmen Salcher, who is a author and therapist who talks about
identity and something that sounds like mindfulness but with
a distinction. And that is it's feelfulness.
It's the actual emotions and thefeelings rather than just what
you observe and notice. So this is two different

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interviews squeezed together. So me talking about four
dimensions and then common talking about identity and
regression. Enjoy.
We are here with Adam Cox all the way from UK, London more
specifically, and he's going to tell us all about his for the

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hypnosis, the time and the spaceand the subconscious mind.
Adam, tell us all about it. Hi, Carmen.
Nice to nice to be on your show.Yeah.
So at the Mid America conference, I'm going to be
talking about 4D hypnosis or 4D thinking, so 4 dimensional
thinking. And one of the things that I

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love doing when I do hypnosis isuse metaphor.
It's one of my favorite things to do and I take a lot of
inspiration from movies. And one of my favorite genres
of, of movie is kind of time travel and science fiction.
And what I found is that when I did hypnosis sessions that was
inspired by things that, let's say play with space and time.

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It was mapping across a lot withcertain principles of
hypnotherapy. So a lot of hypnotherapists will
use things like regression, which is kind of time travel
going back. Most hypnotherapists will use
things like future pacing or pseudo orientation in time,

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which is taking the client to a future that doesn't exist yet.
If you think about PTSD, quite often one of the things that a
client will do is relive a moment from the past, like
they're in a first person perspective.
And a lot of anticipatory fear is experiencing something that

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could happen that hasn't happened, as if it's happening
in the moment. So it kind of dawned on me that
what's happening in our imagination seems to be a
different realm from what's happening in our reality.
In our reality, we're in a three-dimensional world where

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time is linear. It only moves forwards, and yet
our imagination can go backwardsand forwards.
In time, we can take on a different perspective.
You know, for therapists that use things like association and
disassociation, that's a first person or third person
perspective. Hypnotists are intuitive at
using this kind of stuff becausewe can in the realm of the

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imagination. But I can't teleport into your
body and you can't teleport intomine in reality because we live
in a three-dimensional reality. It is possible for you to do
that within your imagination. And you know, I've, I've done a
lot of hypnotherapy over the last kind of 12 years.
My belief is to what hypnotherapy is, is to utilize

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our imagination for therapeutic benefits.
And the more I looked into it and the more I thought about it,
the more it seems like our imagination is more like a four
dimensional realm than it is a three-dimensional realm.
And that's that's what I'm goingto be talking about.
I, I love that and I, I love youbringing down dimensionality.

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I work with dimensions too, but we tell, tell me, tell me more
about it it now. What other other people want to
understand is that 4 dimensionaltime is the present time, moment
to which to which you take your client, whether back and forth,
accessing different dimensions through that imagination which

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we know the power of imaginationis just the most powerful a
human can have is imagination. Yeah.
And, and what's fascinating is that physics can give us
distinction. So if we think about a straight
line, that's effectively 1 dimension.
It has no depth, it only has forwards and backwards along the

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the line A2 dimensional shape for example, like a square or a
triangle. Again, it has no depth, has no
volume, but it does have the ability to go up and down on
that two-dimensional plane. We as humans live in a
three-dimensional reality. So we have the ability to

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perceive depth, we have the ability to assess where we are
and interact with our environment.
But there's certain things that we we can't do.
In the same way that A2 dimensional character couldn't
comprehend our three-dimensionalreality, certain things would be
invisible to A2 dimensional entity in a three-dimensional

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world, correct? Humans in a as 3 dimensional
entities. There's so many things that we
couldn't comprehend in A4 dimensional world, for example.
So one of the key distinctions is about time perception and
perspectives. They're the key things.
So for us in our three-dimensional reality, time

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is linear and it only moves forward.
So we can't travel back in time and our perception is limited to
where we are and what we perceive within our senses.
But A4 dimensional entity would be able to have multiple
perceptions concurrently. So for example, this thought

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experiment of Schrodinger's cat where you have the cat in a
sealed chamber. The reason why that that kind of
mimics this idea of perception and reality is while the cat is
in this chamber with this poisonous gas, until you open
it, there is the possibility that the cat is alive and dead.

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So therefore, before you open the box, both realities coexist
or both possibilities coexist. And it only becomes true when
you can confirm what's happened with some kind of sense.
That might be sight or it might be some kind of sense or inside,
but you you can only know through verification and then

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that makes the reality and that maps across within physics
what's called the double slit experiment where particles act,
you know, depending on if they're observed or not.
So you have this kind of very strange phenomenon in A4
dimensional reality, it's possible to hold multiple
perceptions simultaneously because things are in a state

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called flux. So in four dimensional shapes
for example, like a tesseract for example would be a four
dimensional version of a cube. It's in constant motion and we
know that because the shadow of a cube when it's being rotated
looks like the perception of a tesseract.

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Now we can never perceive A tesseract because we're 3
dimensional entities. But in the same way that you can
perceive A3 dimensional shape onA2 dimensional plane like if I
drew a cube you would know what a cube looks like.
Even if I put it on A2 dimensional plane like I I can
draw a three-dimensional shape. We can have a perception of A4

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dimensional shape even in our three-dimensional realities.
Now the reason why this is useful is that if our
imagination acts more like a four dimensional realm and we
have this idea of the fluidity of time and multiple realities
coexisting, what some people would call the multiverse.

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So infinite parallel universes, these can become tools that
hypnotherapist can use to actually give a very different
experience for the client. So for example, one of the
things I like to do with clientsis to create the thought
experiment of if there was infinite parallel universes,

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this kind of multiverse, what's the version of them that's
already got through this problemthat they're currently facing?
I'd like that. And let's visit that reality.
And then they can observe. So disassociation, how did they
get through this particular problem?
And it creates the idea that someone with their exact
genetics has able to have had the problem and get through it.

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And then that creates this idea that it's also possible for
them. There's no amount of priming.
So you know what? What I'm keen to do is to
emphasize that I'm not saying that the the the imagination or
thought is A4 dimensional realm.I'm just saying it has parallels
more with the 4th dimension thanit does with the
three-dimensional world that we live in.

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In which case hypnotherapist caninteract with their clients
differently by using 4 dimensional metaphor to create
either perceptual differences ortime differences at a new level
of distinction that they couldn't do.
If we try and project A3 dimensional reality into the
imagination of a client, it's a different realm.
It's a different, you know, the rules of physics don't apply in

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the imagination. And we know that's true because
how many times have you had a dream of flying or a dream of
being in a future or or a past like that can't happen in
reality. But our dreams definitely are
not a three-dimensional reality because there's things you can
teleport, you can start in one environment and then suddenly be

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in another. And it all seems to make sense.
So I would say dreams and imagination are much more like a
four dimensional realm than a three-dimensional realm.
As and as hypnotherapists, What if that's a useful framework so
that we can work with clients ina different way?
Oh, definitely, it's definitely useful.
And especially if the client hasseen has seen a sci-fi movie

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with the teleportation, it wouldjust make it so easy for them to
reimagine. And even if you give them the
the image, like imagine you're here and then imagine you there
in whatever chamber or another chamber, it's absolutely,
definitely useful. Guest out therapy does that use
the two chairs and then you faceeach other and, and, and then

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the first chair is the the one that comes to us with the
problem. And the other chair is the
client talking to the version ofthemselves in in in the
multiverse that they need to to to resolve.
And it quite magical. And I definitely like this
modern metaphor. Teleportation, transportation

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queues, 3D4D. And there are all of them are
very important aspects, yes, because we are in physical form
coming to a practitioner like you to do something while
feeling better. But it is the thoughts that been
registered and in neuroscience that we need help to remove

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them. I think Einstein had a great
quote and something along the lines that you can't solve a
problem with the same thinking that got you into that
situation. Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely. So therefore, isn't it useful to
have a very different way of thinking about the problem?
And that could be from a different perception that could

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be from a different point in time.
You know, there's, there's lots of ways.
One of the things I like to do in a session is to take the
client into a future version of themself.
One year. And what would it be like?
One year of not having that phobia and not having that
addiction. One year of already having lost
the weight that they want to lose.

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And then think backwards and then think, what did it take to
make that reality real and to realize, because a lot of people
have this idea that they have tobe perfect in order, that they
can't make one mistake. 1 relapse in order.
So one of the things I'd like todo is to take them to that
future version and let's say they've lost weight or they've

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gained confidence. And it's kind of like and recall
that you didn't need to be perfect to get where you've got
to. That you can make mistakes and
then it primes them for mitigating relapses.
But also that that it's consistency over time.
That is one of the most effective ways for them to
actually get the result. And actually a blip is no big

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deal if it's just a blip, you know, if someone lives a future
as a non-smoker and they realizethat, OK, maybe there was two or
three times that they did take astep backwards, but it's still
got to a point where they they quit for good.
What's the big deal? And a lot of smokers are are,
you know, have this sort of Damocles hanging over their head

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that if they just have one cigarette, then it means they're
a smoker again. Well, that's a disempowering
belief because it creates a selffulfilling prophecy.
So playing with time and and playing with perception is
great. I think a lot of
hypnotherapists, particularly with certain addictions, have
used the future pacing where they go to the inevitable

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outcome of a destructive behaviour.
They get to see them off on a deathbed full of regret.
It's like, well, who who wouldn't want to kind of go back
in time? I mean, that's, that's the
essence of some level of the, ofthe Dickens pattern, which is
see the see the future that you don't want to create that point

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of threshold to create the motivation to change in the
present. And then effectively you're
playing with time. You know, you're playing with
time by saying, right, knowing what I now know could be a
future, how can I, how can I make that future not happen?
And that's kind of the premise of almost every time travel
movie is that they see the future, something bad happens,

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but they get to go back in time and change it.
What a great concept for for change but.
This is what chemotherapy does. That's what between nurses right
after that, we go back, but alsouse the future like like you
said, imagine what it would be like and what's your experience
when you've achieved the goal and then what it's it's just

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powerful, Very, very powerful. It is and I and I think it's a
very versatile tool because I think a lot of trainers will
train someone on a particular technique.
Whereas when I talk about four dimensional thinking, it's more
of a paradigm than a technique. Because if you start thinking

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that OK, the, the imagination ofthe client is A4 dimensional
realm. And therefore all of the tools
that would only work in the 4th dimension, that wouldn't work in
our three-dimensional reality are now possible within a
therapeutic context. So time travel, perception
travel, multiple realities, you know, even distorting the laws

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of physics, you know, think of the rewind technique.
Isn't that just like doing something in reverse?
You can't do that in physical reality, but you can do it in
your imagination. And some of the most effective
tools that we have in hypnotherapy and therapy in
general are based on 4 dimensional thinking, not 3
dimensional realities. That's not a coincidence.

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That's because these things are very kind of powerful and the
human mind is not bound by the laws of three-dimensional
realities. Gravity does not exist, you
know, think of how many times the induction or deep in a
suggestion of floating is used. You know, well, gravity exists
in our three-dimensional reality, but in A4 dimensional

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reality is not bound by the samelaws of physics.
Therefore we can use sensory distortions that we can't use in
reality. When you perceive them, you
start to feel them and that gives an experience to the, to
the client. So, you know, the, the reason I
like talking about this kind of stuff is that it, it feels like

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it's opening up, you know, a newhorizon for hypnotherapist that
might be too stuck in certain patterns of I do this technique,
I do this protocol. Once you start looking at the
lens that actually there is so much more creativity and
flexibility, I think gives us more ability to be nuanced and

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creative and and have fun, but also create profound change for
the clients that we're working with.
I agree 100%. I I agree.
That's I myself, I don't particularly like a single
technique or single modality because with you can't just use
only one tool, the imagination. It's unlimited.
And every client they have, theymight have, let's say PTSD, but

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not all of them is the same. And often times we have post
traumatic injury and, and we still refresh the stress and
it's not just mental, emotional stress, it's physical, it's
injury that has happened, traumato your body, which is very
different than PTSD. So the same PTSD approach will
it's will not work the same for someone that has sustained

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significant injury to their body.
It's, it's different. So yes, 100 a hundred IA 100%
agree. Don't stick to just one
technique or one modality. This is where we start.
Of course, we start with dictating some modalities, but
then to have a shift in in perspective using this 4D time

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and space as you bring out, it'sit's it's a yes.
It's a yes for me. Yeah, and, and it's super fun as
well. To, to, to, to actually kind of
do that with clients because it gives them a very different kind
of experience. And, you know, I think there's,
there's only really two parallels that I've found that

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we as humans living in a three-dimensional reality can
get close to what A4 dimensionalreality could be like.
And one is things like the virtual reality in the
metaverse, because in virtual reality in a metaverse, you
could go back to a different time, you could take on a
different perspective, you couldwear the skin of a different
character and kind of play their, their role.

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So that's one way that we can get close to A4 dimensional
reality. But the only other thing is the
imagination. And we're, we're
hypnotherapists, we're not computer coders and gamers.
So it's kind of like the imagination becomes the the
canvas in which we can help clients have a 4D experience,

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but it's not just because you could have that just as like an
experience like guided meditation to get insight and
thought experiments. But why not do it deliberately
to change something that the client wants that might be
access a resource, They break a pattern, you know, do something
useful for them that deals with the thing.

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And I think that's where the Venn diagrams overlap, is that
you give them this wonderful experience, but you make it
therapeutically beneficial as well.
Correct, correct. And something we must keep in
mind that clients come to us to change something.
So whatever, whatever it is, they want to change and often we
have the last resort as they, a lot of them, I have a lot of

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clients that have gone through significant amount of
psychotherapy. So and other clients that
hypnosis is, is the last resort and it is just it is the most
amazing, magical, fantastic, achieving a tool that that we
can utilize and more people needto know about it.

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I'd be glad to know about it. So what else you want to tell
us? You have a, you have a very
famous podcast, so. Tell us what so I I created this
podcast at the beginning of the pandemic.
I was working in a very prestigious location in in
London, had high profile clients, but I could I'm fairly
good at reading trends and I could see when the pandemic

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started that I would I was goingto have less clients that I
could physically work with in front of me.
So I ended the lease on, on thattherapy room and I wanted to
have an outlet for, for my hypnosis creatively and, and
just as a, as a way to kind of experiment with different types

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of, of hypnotherapy. So I created a podcast and it
wasn't a training podcast for other hypnotherapists and it
wasn't just doing hypnosis sessions that were quite
generic. I, I wanted to have a hypnosis
podcast that featured real hypnosis based on real client
issues and actually use the hypnosis that I use for the

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actual client that I was workingwith, but protecting the
confidentiality of that client. And that felt appealing to me
because some of the books that Ireally enjoyed when I was
learning to become a hypnotherapist were the real
transcripts of real therapeutic sessions, not step by step
protocols and kind of techniques.

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But what did Milton Ericsson do with that particular client to
lead to the breakthrough? Or what did Richard Bandler do,
you know, to help that particular phobic in that
situation? So I thought like real hypnosis
becomes the the the thing. And to begin with, it didn't do
very well. I was just sharing my weight
loss hypnosis sessions. What made it grow was I took

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inspiration from movies. So the first movie that you
know, I, I took inspiration fromwas a movie called Limitless
with Robert De Niro and Bradley Cooper, where he takes this pill
and then suddenly his, his brainis supercharged.
And I turned that into a hypnosis session, put it on
social media and in the pandemic, everyone's bored,

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they've got nothing to do. And I'm like, hey, I've done
this hypnosis session based on the movie Limitless.
Let me know if you want that session.
So a lot of people did. And what I didn't know at the
time is that I was training the algorithm of the podcast to know
who to put my stuff in front of.And then I did that again with
the movie Inception and movies like Fight Club and all my

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favorite movies and books I turned into hypnotherapy
sessions. But instead of just sending them
the audio, I sent them a link tomy podcast that trained the
algorithm. And then suddenly my podcast was
getting in front of other people.
So it went from, in the early days, I was getting like 5 or 10
downloads a day. These days I get about 15,000

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downloads a day. But it came from being a
creative outlet but also sharingreal hypnosis sessions, but in
that very confidential way. So now it's become this
wonderful cycle where most of myclients learn about me through
the podcast. And then that generates more

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clients, which generates more podcast sessions, which generate
more clients. So it's, it's, it's been a
wonderful thing. And I think now I know that
there's two key audiences. The, the first audience is
people that can resonate with the issue that I worked with
someone else. It's become free therapy for
them. They can't sleep, so they put

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sleep hypnosis on Spotify and then my face comes up and they
listen to it. So that might be an issue.
And then the other is hypnotherapist.
And I think the nature of hypnotherapy is that it happens
behind closed doors and nobody really knows what the hypnotist
is actually doing with the client.
So I become a way for other hypnotherapists to say, right,

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what does a hypnosis session about, you know, childhood
trauma look like? And they can find that.
They can have a listen the way it's just my way, but they get a
frame of reference and they can say, well, I agree with 70% of
that, but I would have done thisdifferent.
But that's still more helpful than having no frame of
reference. So it's it's kind of the average
person that wants to find a solution.

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Plus other hypnotherapist that tend to listen to the the show,
yes. It's great, it's great.
So you're going to I'm going to see you in person in, in just a
couple of days at at mid America, at Mid America
conference, right? Hypnosis conference right here.
Everybody's going to go get a ticket right here.

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hypnosisconference.org, right, just right here.
That's the, that's the OK, don'tdo that.
OK, just that here's the, here'sthe link and you, everybody's
going to get their package, whether it's the first level,
second level or third level. That's an all pass, all access
pass anyway. You have access to all three

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days, but with the next level you have additional and
additional benefits. And if you cannot afford this,
definitely go for this because it is well, well worth it.
And we are going to be packed. We going to have pre comforts
workshops every day Friday, Saturday, Sunday we have a lunch

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buffet where you are still staying in facility and get to
talk to to people and spend moretime.
Oh, and the lunch hour now it's an hour and a half, which is a
fantastic opportunity because you get to talk to more people
as opposed to driving somewhere waiting for the food.
No, just right there on on the spot.

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But then Friday night, if we if we just going to be packed with
fun. Friday night we're going to have
the hypno friends feud game. Let me tell you, last year we
got a little naughty. This is a place you want to be
at. Then on Saturday we get the red
carpet gala, comedy, hypnosis show and dancing and also you

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will have a unique opportunity to learn from Doctor Bandler and
Shay's huge. Although I'm a huge personality.
But most important, you're goingto go to the schedule right here
to the. Schedule and.
You're going to locate Adam Cox on Saturday.
See, each day has a different colour.

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So on Saturday you're going to join his presentation right here
at at right after lunch. They go right after lunch after
you chat, spend some time chatting with him and other
people come in at 1:30 on Saturday to meet Adam to join
his class on 4D hypnosis time, space and a subconscious mind.

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And then right here. If you click on here on this
link then you'll get his his speakers page you going to.
But you get to learn more. About his presentation, get them
a better sense in addition to what he already presented of

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what he's going to present and much more about learning about
Adam. So, Adam, I look forward to, to
seeing you in just, I mean, justjust a couple of more days,
yeah. It's very, very soon.
Yeah. I I fly.
Out on on Thursday. And yeah, it's going to be, I've

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never been to this this conference, but I hear it's it's
very good. And Rich seems to have done an
amazing job at putting together something very fun.
So I think it's going to be great.
Oh, this is the conference. OK, this is the this is the
longest team losses conference in the United States and the
most fun. I'm going to all the
conferences. I love them all but this one and

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it's just packed with fun and it's packed with camaraderie
too. So it's it's a very.
Important aspect and what what Rich Gatsi is doing he keeps
saying he's taken over the entire hotel and this is also
going to be a cruise ship on land but yeah yeah you don't
need you don't need to leave thehotel anymore don't even don't
even rent a car from if you're flying in just get an Uber or a

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Lyft or or whichever mode of transportation you want and then
that's all you need because lunch is on well there is a
restaurant in the hotel so you have breakfast lunch and dinner
all in in the same place with all of these wonderful people
the the the hypnotists are so this is exciting very exciting

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and I look forward to seeing youin person Adam yeah likewise
yeah it's. Going to be good, all right.
Welcome to the. Hypnotist.
I'm Adam Cox and today I'm not going to be your hypnotist.
I'm joined by a guest hypnotist and that is Carmen Salchuk.
Carmen, welcome to the show. Thank you, Adam.

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Thank you for. Having me on your show.
Great to have you here. So I'm always curious how
hypnotherapists become hypnotherapists.
So what was your background? How did you get into this world
of hypnosis and hypnotherapy? That's an.
That's an. Interesting question.
I've have had stress reduction. I've experienced a lot of past

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life regression. Many years ago I wasn't going to
be hypnotized. Nobody was going to get in my
head. Yeah, the mentality they.
Don't have many years ago, right.
And but then I have a lot of past life regressions, a lot of
them for about two years, like every other week for about two
years. And they were phenomenal.
And that's, it wasn't the beginning, but there was a good

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at the same time. At the same time, I don't know
how to meditate with binaural beat.
And then it, it became easy. And through me practicing all of
this journey and then meditationbecause journeying just came
natural to me. That's how I learned what
hypnosis is all about. And when you?

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Discovered hypnosis. It sounds like you're on the
receiving end of lots of past life regression.
I, I love past life regression. I tend to look at it as a
metaphor to kind of find breakthroughs rather than, you
know, we've got this kind of karmic life.
What's your belief system about past life regression and what
insights did you get you know, in these past lives?

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Well, my. Past life regression I, I do, I
do all chemical regression with my clients.
So there's all kinds of regression like, you know, age
regression, chemical regression,past life regression, past life
regression as as in how people understand best life regression

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is to go in the past and find out the source of your
difficulties here in life. It's not, it's not what people
think to be. If the subconscious is not ready
to trouble back, then nothing isgoing to happen.
It's what I'm experiencing with,with my clients.
Me, on the other hand, with a ton of curiosity and being very

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assured that nobody was going toget in my head.
It was very important to. Me, I travelled and I've
travelled to 1800s, fourteen hundreds, 1200s, but two
actually, no, it wasn't anything.
Every journey that I had in the past life regression where few.

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Hundreds. Years ago it was a lot of
interesting movies. And were there any kind?
Of commonalities in in those past lives that were similar in
all of them Not not. Right away it wasn't like one
from from one to another. It was no commonality.

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But now when I look back 25 years later, I I see the
patterns of what my subconsciouswas trying to tell me and now I
understand it. And because of this experience,
because let me let me address this at that time, I want to

(33:33):
make a difficulty better. This past life regression didn't
help with that, right? Of course, subconscious learn a
lot and, and it processed a lot and it did what it need to what
it was a lot of fun, right? But it did not make my
difficulty better. So what what I deal with with

(33:54):
the clients that they ask for regression?
I explained to them the same thing here and.
Also I explained to them. That if the subconscious is not
ready to go there is not gonna is not gonna go there.
But now what I do with the clients, especially with trauma,
when I do regression, I do alchemical regression.

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So in this age, aggression, pastlife, it doesn't matter where
the subconscious is going to arrive.
That's what it's going to arrive.
Whether it's age or whether it'spast life.
Then especially with trauma, when we get there and I am, both
of us have an intention and makea commitment to the subconscious

(34:36):
to allow us to. As far as the subconscious, it's
ready to process. Very important to not.
Push anything and and then when we get there, whatever the
subconscious reveals reveals if it I direct, I guide the the
client, the Pentagon, what they see, what they experience, what

(35:01):
the colors, the whatever is there.
Well, it took a lot of training.But I hear if.
I can put it in this. Words where the subconscious
needs to go for that particular work that we're working on on
that day. And based on that, then I guide

(35:22):
the client to make things happen, to alchemize we are
transmuting experiences, right? So at at the time you are
transmitting experiences right there.
Neuroscience, the hippocampus, right?
So many talk about the amygdala,but it's not just the amygdala.
All of the stories, all of the events that we've gone through

(35:44):
life, they register in the hippocampus.
So the hippocampus is a sort of the memory, right And.
Those heavy. Layers.
If you push the subconscious toomuch that is going you guide it
towards a layer that's a little deeper that is not ready to to
unveil, then you're going to cause more trauma.

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So. As a.
Subconscious and you get feedback from the client because
it's a conversation. You get feedback from a client
based on what they see, what they what they when.
You tell them to do. Something whether that is
happening or not happening and their body communicates and if

(36:30):
something is happening good, then we go.
You have to be able to pivot at at at any time with that.
But magic happens with us because, you know.
Hypnosis and. Experience experiences have
marked us through life without experiences, but not marked
which is happy go lucky. Not, not exactly.

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But through this alchemical regression that the client has
an opportunity to have that memory extracted, so to speak,
from the hippocampus. So now, OK, OK.
Now we're not going to do accounting right now to see how

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many times the memory needs to be extracted.
But it's it's it's magical. It's magical.
So all of these layers subconscious eventually would
let us work with with and with that.
Yeah. So to go back to your question
on past life regression, it's not for everybody.

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And if you just want to go visitsomething, if you want to do it
for fun and go, I had clients that they just want to go see.
I said, OK, that's what we're going to do.
You look at I'm not going to, we're not going to alchemize
anything. And many of them did not go past
their childhood, right. But I like to caution every past

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life regression practitioner in that experience as.
Experience. I am right here.

(38:28):
All right, I. Am right here I didn't go
anywhere we. We, we lost you for a second
there, I didn't think on anything.
No worries. I, I always think with, with
past life progression, how I, there's two circumstances that I
think is really useful. And that is that if the client
has some kind of issue and has no idea where it's from, then

(38:51):
going into a past life becomes away to kind of bridge a theme
from a past life which feels safe into their, their real
life. Or if the cause perhaps is too
traumatic and and too emotive, they don't really want to
experience that as a memory, butthey can find a parallel in a

(39:12):
past life. And I don't know if you ever saw
ATV show from the 1990s called Quantum Leap, but the premise,
the premise of of that is that it kind of jumps into a first
person perspective and what he does in that person's life
changes the trajectory of that life.
He kind of rights are wrong. And I think at some level that's

(39:35):
the kind of premise of some formof past life regression that
actually you either extract somewisdom or you change the history
or the outcome in a past life. And the connotation is that it
ripples through space and time into the reality of that
individual. And I couldn't care less if it's

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just like a dreamlike experiencewhere it's being created
generatively as they experience it, or there actually was a past
life which it would be impossible to prove.
What matters is does it help theclient or not?
What kind of clients do you findpast life regression is really
useful for? I particularly a lot of trauma,

(40:19):
definitely, but I personally would like to differentiate
between past life and regressionand alchemical progression.
Not everybody will travel in in past life and subconscious it's
not ready to go there. And if a practitioner is not
careful enough to take to take aclient into a past life
regression with the hopes of finding what was the cause of of

(40:42):
their trauma today, you it, it might backfire on you because
the subconscious is not ready togo there.
And one of the reason is that inthis life, so much has happened.
The subconsciousness is like think of layers of the onion or
think of having to the the same Jack than you over and over,

(41:02):
like 20 jackets over. So if the client has to go to to
20 layers of onion, 20 jackets they carry, then if you want to
go straight 200 years ago, subconscious is going to say no
thank you. I already we have lots to lots
issues to identify in here to work with before I go there.

(41:24):
So it's not again it's not for everybody.
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
It's and and and also it requires the client to be more
open minded. Some clients aren't, aren't kind
of like willing to kind of entertain the idea of kind of
past lives and, and that kind ofstuff.
But it, it's, it's a tool withinthe toolkit.
I can see lots of books behind you.

(41:46):
Clearly you're, you're an authorthat's kind of published lots of
ideas and, and, and kind of systems.
Tell us about fearfulness. What, what's that about?
And where did the idea come from?
Adam, thank you for asking. Fearfulness is the system that
I've been developing for the past 12 years.

(42:06):
It is feel fullness. The I coined the term
fearfulness. It's not in a dictionary, It's
just yet the spell check, it's not catching up, not even at my
end just yet. But if you think of mindfulness,
feel fullness, right? So in mindfulness, I've had a

(42:30):
lot of past life regression. I have a lot of meditation.
My, my, I, I was already expanding my, my consciousness
when I, when I was introduced, when I arrived at at
mindfulness. So in mindfulness, so many gurus
and so many teachers, they said you have to feel it in order to

(42:50):
have it happen. You have to feel it.
And for the longest time, I would go, yeah, yeah, that's
right, because I knew how to feel it right.
And after a while I realized that they tell you what to do,
but they didn't tell you how. And then I, I kept paying
attention to it. Specifically, I would, I would
go to this particular big names and no, they would not tell you

(43:14):
how. And then I got insulted.
My knowledge got insulted, my intelligence got insulted.
And I said no, no, I know how tofeel a feeling by choice.
So at that time I was already I,I was already in few years in,
in teaching students how to feela feeling by choice, how to do

(43:35):
fearfulness. And then when I got insulted.
I it occurred. To me that I need to make this
bigger than just just a few practices within my circle and,
and with, with my students. So I writing the book and

(43:56):
fearfulness. It was extremely difficult.
It's, it's still 12 years in making, But what I did with the
with the books, first I, I wrotethis creating is and then I
wrote this creating is itself. Then creating is at work and
then creating. This is the creating is at at
work. This is creating is at

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relationships and this is a trilogy and creating is is it's
not easy is a state of being. It's it's a way of life, it's
flow and what I've done with fearfulness.
I introduce the thought filling practices in with creating these
books and I was already teachingit.

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It was hard to find the words for it, but somehow this I
surprised myself. I, I found them and the feedback
I got from the people that read the books was surprisingly good.
But I it surprised me that people got it.

(45:00):
It surprised me that people actually did the the thought
feelings. A few people would just stop at
the breeding techniques. But then if you go in to feel
the feeling, because, yeah, there are five laws in creating
is, and each of the law takes you to feel a feeling by choice.
Not feel whatever you want, not feel good, just this is the

(45:25):
feeling you're going to attain right now and this is how you're
going to do it. So there was the guidance.
And then on paper, it's good enough on paper.
But then also I recorded audio 'cause I started audio, you
know, voice, the feedback I got from people it, it was just
amazing. So then I worked, I wrote the

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creating use at work, which it was just, I should have wrote
that before. It was just easier because I
worked in, in a corporate at a time.
And there was a, a specific terminology for the core, which
is it just wrote itself, right. So many rapport, so many with
all of the big decision makers. And then the creating is that

(46:07):
relationship needed to happen. But so I did that 2014 and now
I'm at the 3rd edition. I needed to, I needed to get the
3rd edition because today we need to the way life goes today
and the way things are specifying what something is and

(46:30):
it's not, it's a, it's a requirement today, so.
I needed to update. This to to this to this
requirement and I actually condensed the book.
I made them a tidbit shorter so.Not to scare.
The reader. Oh my God, that three books.
Well, it's three books, but so 5flaws from the perspective of

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you, the individual itself, fromthe perspective of at work, you,
the individual at work and then at relationship.
Because there are three aspects and they're, they're all,
they're all part of your identity.
But then you do this aspect differently.
So I'm going to. Guess what?

(47:15):
I, what I think the parallel will be fulfill fullness.
And you let me know if I'm on the right track because you're,
you're the author of this system.
So how I think of mindfulness ishaving sensory acuity to real
things that you can experience with your senses.
So it might be a smell, it mightbe a taste, it might be
something you could observe and it's being fully in the present

(47:38):
and, and being aware of those things.
What I think, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that fearfulness
is that same level of sensory acuity but for internal emotions
and feelings. And, and I think the average
person isn't very good at being able to describe things like
anxiety compared to excitement or happiness compared to joy or

(48:01):
bliss. And what I think it is, is that
same level of mindfulness, sensory acuity, but with
kinesthetic feelings and then evolving that to being very
intentional about saying, right,I want to feel this way and then
being able to create that state.Have I got the right idea or am
I completely off track here? You know you, you're.

(48:22):
On a road you're on a right Rd. but there's more together.
I would completely take out the word saying because this is an
evolution. What and nobody knows and unless
I I present this this to them. Cognition.
You. You.
Mentioned cognition and here in in the system OK, fearfulness

(48:46):
fearfulness it's a meta conscious design system in
therapy with the methodologies right so it I'm going to I'm
going to get back to the well, let me let me give you this
elements it it it has a few elements in it meta cognition,
meta emotion and neural. Language.

(49:10):
So metacognition, thinking aboutit, metacognition as a increase
sense of equity, it's not doing it justice.
Yeah, it is that, but it is on steroids, right?
It's light years ahead. And then meta emotion has to do

(49:31):
with choosing what you feel, right?
So it's a whole lot of intention, but you need meta
cognition in order to do meta emotion.
And then to feel a feeling by choice also, you need this
neural language. And it's not linguistics, it's
neural language. One word speaks of an

(49:51):
experience. Right.
And I'm. Not talking about warm, hot or
cold, that's similar. One more speaks to an identity
level experience. And this is where this.
Is where the the beauty of fearfulness comes in.

(50:11):
It re architects and re architects your identity.
Right, but. To go back to what you just
said, a lot of people don't knowwhat they feel.
They cannot articulate what theyfeel well.
I'm. Finding.
Out that even a lot of professionals they don't know
what identity is. So it surprises.

(50:34):
Me. So what is?
Identity. Identity is who you are and what
moves through. You would you say that's a
belief? Of who people are, because I
think sometimes with identity, who people are depends on the
context. So they might have multiple
identities to different contexts.

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They might say I'm a parent, I'ma partner, it's a professional,
yeah, it's a role that's a mask.No think.
Think of think of Carl Jung. Everybody should get more
familiar with Carl Jung. Carl Jung, the process of
individuation. He defined the self as roles,
personas, masks, shadow, anima, animos and then individuate and

(51:20):
put them all all together comingto to your center.
So what what you were describingare personas.
So like when when I wrote the the trilogy as the identity for
yourself, the identity you present, it's you at work or at
relationship. These are your roles.
They are part of your identity. But it's not the identity, the

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title. Your title is not your identity.
Your passport ID card, the the number you have is not your
identity. It you, it helps you being
identified in society, but that's not who you are.
So who are you and what moves through you?

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So that's a whole. Lot that happens there so is
going to take care of it. Go ahead.
You were going to say something I was going to say at.
Some level everyone has a beliefas to who they are and.
And. The great thing about beliefs
as, as we know as hypnotherapists is that beliefs
can change. So if someone has a belief that

(52:28):
who they are as a role or a persona, then you can change
that belief, you know, to something more, more useful.
And I would say so many people do take their profession or
their, their persona as their core identity.
The wonderful thing is if, if that isn't useful for them, you
change that one belief and it can change their entire outlook

(52:51):
on life. It can change so many things
because it's so it's so central.It kind of ripples out to to
everything. When you're helping people
discover their identity, how do you how do you do that?
Is that through questions? Is that through introspection
and you and you get them to kindof discover because I imagine
most people don't don't really know who they are.

(53:14):
Yes. But let me let me go back to
what the filthiness system is. So you understand discovering
someone's identity. Identity is a complex system and
is it's who, who you have been thus far and who you're going to
become and who you choose to be.And, and you generate your re

(53:35):
architect identity, beliefs and values.
They're part of it and they're easy to change and they are
going to be changed by themselves without you having an
intention to change a belief just by working with with a
neural language. But neuroscience, I'm fascinated
by neuroscience. Neuroscience now is giving us so

(53:56):
many answers as to what's happening with our experiences,
even with our spiritual experiences.
Now the scientists can pinpoint exactly what parts of the brain
are being engaged, which we didn't have that before.
We didn't have with William James in 1800.

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We didn't have with Carly Jung in early. 1920 or.
Or so and to have the neuroscience now give us
tangible something tangible so we can understand the that
spiritual experiences do something to the brain that this
past life regression and this hypnosis that all of these

(54:39):
experiences when we are whether in trans or whether meditating
or whether journey is doing something to our brain is just
it's I love and I love seeing that the science is is giving
this giving us this this tangible aspect.
But in within the neuroscience, there is a neuroscience of
thoughts, beliefs and values. Yeah, so feel freeness also goes

(55:03):
over the neuroscience of emotions, right.
Neuroscience of feelings. Now English language is one of
the most wonderful languages that are on on a planet.
But there are few places that the English language lacks.
And feeling is an emotion. It's where English language
lacks. It's English speaking people

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have not been thought to use emotion for an emotion and
feeling for a feeling. They're always interpolated in
my language. For example, I'm Romanian, Latin
language, we have a, a word for emotion and a different word for
a feeling and an additional 3 or4 words that can describe a
combination of that. English doesn't have that.

(55:49):
That's OK. I, I am, I am specifying that in
here that feelings are differentthan emotion, right?
And so in in a nutshell, and an emotion 30 seconds, if it lasts
60 seconds and too much 15, not even 15 seconds.
And emotion, it's explosive comes and go, right?

(56:11):
It's thought provoked or or. It's thought provoked.
Right. A feeling is not always.
It's not an explosion. An emotion can transform into a
feeling, but a feeling has an attribute of existence.

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With it. An emotion comes and go.
Feeling you generate a state of being, and a state of being has
to do with existence, of how youexist.
See existence again, it's a wordthat is not used as much in in
English as I'm. I'm used to using this word in

(56:56):
in in Romania. So something exists, or it
doesn't exist, or you can make it exist, or you bring it into
into an existence. And I imagine this is one of.
The things you're going to be talking at at the Mid America
conference is this system that you've created elaborate more on
what we could expect for anyone that's going to be there in in

(57:17):
Chicago actually kind of hearingyour talk what can they expect
yes so at. At this conference, I'm going to
talk about identity architectureof the self, you and your client
as at as as as therapist. OK, let let me go to this other
sentence in my all of my journeys, some of the the what

(57:40):
I've studied and observe, if a therapeutic intervention has not
arrived at the self, that therapeutic intervention is not
complete. It might be a technique, but
it's not that they are building an invention and arriving at a
self. It it's, it's, it's a journey,

(58:01):
right? So many, especially in in.
OK, I'm not going to go there. OK, so many professionals have
techniques and modalities and they work.
They work marvels. They do something to the beliefs
and the values that it brings cognition to to the client into

(58:24):
brings them into their expanded realization and they can choose
something about themselves, right?
Well, identity work is needed and it's not needed just for the
for the client, it's needed for the therapist.
So going back to Carl Jung, evenCarl Jung cautioned us that if
you as a therapist have not healed your wounds, then be

(58:49):
careful and what kind of therapyyou administer to the client.
And he's talking about the wounded healer.
So I would say 99% of therapistsare wounded healers and it this
is, this is all unconscious. It's not intentional.
I mean, all therapists have goodintentions, right?
But we need to become aware of what sits in our identity, what

(59:14):
moves through through us. Because a wound that has been,
that hasn't been. Addressed that.
Hasn't been removed from the hippocampus is still going to
move through you and then pass through the client also at the
same at the same effect client'swound it's going to move through

(59:35):
you and if your wound is not it's not finalized, it's not
removed from the hippocampus andthen there's transference and
then there's there's no coherence.
So don't get me wrong, a lot of healing happens, but.
We need a bit. We need a good amount of
disinfectant there. Infected neural language.

(01:00:00):
Perfect. So, people.
Seeing you in in Chicago can expect to to learn some of those
kind of approaches. They can actually kind of help
people figure out how to reveal and and make changes at the
identity level. Yeah.
So what what I'm going? To do at this, at this position,
I'm going to, to present what the self is and all of these

(01:00:23):
different parts of the self. And I'm going to talk a little
bit about the neuroscience. And right now I'm going to take
more than not even 30 seconds. It's what's fascinating to me
that the neuroscience of emotions, like it has a
trajectory in a, in a brain. It's about, let's see, it's
about this this long, the trajectory.

(01:00:43):
Think about how much you're driving neuroscience of
feelings. It's about this long.
So that tells. Us that when you have a feeling,
the brain lights up in more areas, including the prefrontal
cortex into the evolved brain. So the evolved brain, the
prefrontal cortex, it's where you have the executive function.

(01:01:05):
We have choice. So we we want to be aware of it
and, and, and continue to, to becognizant of emotion being
different than a feeling. And so after.
After I'll do I'll do this go over the neural language.
Neural language is very important.

(01:01:26):
If we know that words are the the heavy words can destroy or
or build a person, right? So carefully chosen words, it's
what it's, it's one of the the basis of of of fearfulness.
When, when you do fearfulness, when you practice fearfulness,

(01:01:49):
when you have the minister fearfulness for the client to to
feel differently. But then the scope of this is to
generate a state of being. We generate states of being
throughout the all the time, butwe don't, it's unconscious and
they're not the right kind, right?

(01:02:10):
So like you have a plant and then you don't water the plant
and it dies or you water too much or too little, or you give
it milk instead of water. It's very, it's very important
what kind of states of being regenerate.
So then you as a, as a practitioner will learn how to
generate a state of being. Well, first for you, you, you

(01:02:34):
can't just OK, let me learn how to generate a state of being for
my client. OK, hold on a second.
Because we need to go to high school first, right?
So you learn how to generate a state of being.
I'm going to walk you through itin in a little bit.
And once you have multiple experiences to generating
multiple states of being there, there's so there is a subtle

(01:02:56):
difference between them and the same state of being a generating
today that you need to generate a similar state of being for
tomorrow with the exact same neural words.
There's going to be some subtle differences between them, and
that's all right. And so once.
We generated a state of being. We learn to then generate the

(01:03:17):
therapeutic state of being. Now that's complex.
That's, that's an advanced skill.
Well, metacognition, it's an advanced skill, but you can get
to it, which I don't know, not even 4 hours of my training.
Metacognition is that you'll getto it.
This, that's an exercise that you will repeat and, and you

(01:03:38):
will get into what I call simultaneous time.
And, and you can, you earlier talked about time travel and you
can not just equate it, but you'll get into, into a
simultaneous time where everything exists at the same
place. It's, it's, this is five fifth
dimension for me. But the where you, how you

(01:03:58):
allocate your attention is to what's needed for you in that
moment, but having the wisdom ofeverything that surrounds you
and what is the need in that particular moment, right?
So it takes a while to arrive there.
OK. So once you learn to generate a
therapeutic state of being, thenthen you as a therapist learn

(01:04:22):
how to transfer this therapeuticconsciousness pure.
Creation. And nothing physical.
We have so many created a physical, but before physical,
before physic, there was metaphysic.
So there was an intention and a feeling and and and attention to
create something. So now we go to create this

(01:04:46):
therapeutic consciousness not only reaches us as a as a
clients, but we transferred thisto the client by the simple.
Simple element. Of the, the mirror neurons,
well, we transfer mirror neurons, they pick always pick
up something from the other person.
It's a mechanism. But when you make that

(01:05:08):
intentional and Oh my God, and then that's magic, it's magical.
But also when you when you transfer therapeutic
consciousness, and only by the sheer fact that you generate
therapeutic state of being. The.
Collective unconscious gets populated with this therapy

(01:05:31):
would take yumminess and humanity evolves.
Amazing. It sounds fascinating.
I'm I'm excited to kind of learnmore about it for, for the
audience listening right now. Is there a demonstration or some
kind of hypnosis experience thatthey could get a taste of, of

(01:05:54):
what this is all about? Absolutely.
I I love. I love doing this.
So we're going to, we're going to do a little bit of, of
metacognition and, and meta emotion.
And although this may be big words, I'm going to take you
through some very simple words, but I want everybody to
understand that this simplicity is highly significant.

(01:06:15):
Nobody ever learned to work by sitting down.
So. When we walk, we have to put the
foot in front of the other and it's significant right now it's
it's no big deal with walking, but at some point we need to do
that. So I would invite your.
Audience to. Just find a comfortable seat.

(01:06:38):
This is not going to be a trans.I don't have to close their
eyes. Actually, I would invite
everybody to have their sit up straight just exactly like you
did. Just be aware of what's
happening. We're not going in trans, just
not hypnosis. And if you wanna the the, if you
have a tendency to slip into trans, you can do that later.

(01:07:01):
But right now you just be aware of, of being aware.
You're right here in the presenttime.
You're you're sitting in a chair, You have the, the air
around you, anything that's thistangible, you're just aware of
where we're at. And you're probably describing

(01:07:21):
quietly in your mind, at the back of your mind, what's going
on. There are conversations we have
in our head very often. Most of the time, you know, 99%
of the time we have conversationin our hand.
But if I tell you that there are7 layers of thought and then and
then if I invite you to go into the 4th, 5th and 6th layer where

(01:07:46):
you begin to think with no words.
Let's just be a better concept. Quite interesting and curious to
just going to the 6th level of of thought.
And in that layer of thought, what do you think without words?
And I'm going to do this perfect.
And nobody's asking for perfection.

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If you were to. Have your attention, not.
To the sound. The sound is going to be there.
Let the sound of my voice be where it's at without you having
to go through it. So just the sound of my voice is
there. You are in your body and your
attention. Bring your attention close to

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your eyes. And as you bring your attention
back to your eyes, it's a big deal because we process
everything with our eyes and we think through our eyes and we go
there to what we think and what's happening.
So right now, we're just going to be in here and you're going
to bring your attention back to your eyes.

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Just like that and. You're going to feel something
that's going to be a sensation. A lot of people feel something
on their chest first, the eyes. You're going to feel something
that's all right, That's that's a there's a validation that you
are bringing your attention point to around your eyes.

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And there's the. Shift very good.
And then from behind you, from your eyes, I want you to bring
your attention behind your eyes.Eyes open, just take your
attention behind your eyes is going to be a little bit of
pressure and maybe a a longer pressure on the chest and then a
little bit pressure behind the eyes.
That's all right. It's something we knew how to do

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this as children all the time. Somebody just took us off of it.
So we need to come back. So just hold your attention
right behind your eyes and then right there in in this having
your attention behind your eyes.I might ask you to find a
feeling of capable. And I say, oh, Corman, you don't

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know. I say, well, I do know.
So are you are you breathing? Yeah, I'm breathing.
Well, then you're capable. Oh, well, it's very significant
breeding. It's a very significant aspect
of existence without you. Not if you don't breathe and you
don't exist. And what kind of capable would
there be there? So let's be capable right now.

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But it's a little simple, OK. Well, OK, Well, what if you are
to open and close the door? You open a door and close the
door. Are you capable?
Yeah. Yeah, I am capable.
OK, then let's stay with that. Pretend, Right?
But just pretending. It's not trans.
It's just pretending. Pretending you open and close
the door. Sure.
I can do that. Very good.

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Very good. All right, so there is a there
is a sensation that is a first there is a thought and then the
feeling is like, well, I've beendoing it all my life.
You know what it is to feel about it.
But there is something to feel about it because when you do it,
there is a bit off of feeling. So let's just open and close.
Are you capable? Sure, I'm capable, Right.

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And then I'm going to ask you tofeel certain.
I said, well, I'm certain. I said, well, yeah, certain.
And I said, well, how do I do that?
Well, if I'm going to ask you how many fingers you have on
your on your hand, you're going to say 5.
And I say, you sure? So you're 5.
And I say you're sure, sure. yo-yo, look at this.
They're five. There's certainty.

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So this feeling. Of certainty is a language that
you going to automatically bringin when you are experiencing
yourself throughout life. That feeling of capable.
I can open or close the door. I've been doing it hundreds of
times. There is a feeling to it.

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It is important. After a while you're going to
bring it in intentionally as a feeling, not as a thought.
You're going to inhabit that anymoment and the circumstance you
find yourself throughout the day.
So have your attention behind your eyes again because as I

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talk about attention is so easy for the attention to just go to
where the sound is. You think very good, very good.
So just have your attention again behind your eyes.
But a little bit of pressure, it's all right.
And again, now you already know what the spill is.
Find the feeling of capable mucheasier now, isn't it?

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Yeah. And then let's add the feeling
of certain sure you have 5 fingers.
Let's pretend we're not solving any problems right now.
You cannot do this wrong. It is impossible to do it wrong.
Unless you don't do. It I just fall asleep.
Right, so no trans. No holding asleep.

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Just pretend. Have fun.
You're going to feel it and thenyou're going to drop it.
You're going to feel it and thenyou're going to drop it.
You feel it and then you're going to drop it.
You feel it and you're going to drop it.
Your attention is going to be behind your eyes and then it's
going to drop. And then it's going to be behind
your eyes and it's it's going tokeep moving.
That's all right. We're just learning how to put
the foot. In front of the other and look
how wonderfully now as adults wewe're walking just fine.

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So if I am going to ask you to find the feeling of happy, Oh
well, just pretend at some pointyou're happy.
Just you, you're happy to learn something new.
Oh, OK, I'm happy about that. Good.
So then pretend you're happy it has a different flavour.

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And maybe you're happy that you have a roof of your head.
Oh, I'm happy about that. Well, let's just be happy you
have a roof over your head, right?
You're happy you have clean water.
Oh, I forgot about it. Yeah, I'm happy you have clean
water. And let's be happy over that and
pretend you're happy. Right.

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So you have a feeling of being happy.
This very simple but significant.
Exercises, right? Here your attention is behind
your eyes. You have a feeling of being
happy. You feel that you've it's going
to feel it and drop it, feel it doesn't matter again.
You pick it up, you feel it, andthen you bring back the feeling

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of capable. Very good you.
See, you see the shift. I could even hear the shift, but
you felt the shift and I'll bring the feeling of certain.
Bigger shift, right? There so as you are capable,

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certain and happy continue to play with these feelings to
intentionally feel these feelings as I'm going to say the
couple of the next few sentences.
So capable, certain, happy this create a triangle and this
creates the platform. Have your attention behind your
eyes, right. My words are still going to be

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there not going anywhere. Attention behind your eyes,
capable, certain, happy. So as you are feeling this
feelings, pretending or not pretending, it really doesn't
matter. Every self, every identity has a
very basics of of basic platformfor their identity.

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Think of it as a house. A house has a platform that sits
that the platform sits on the planet, and then that platform
has pillars. Capable, certain and happy is
the very basic platform. Attention behind eyes.
Happy to be learning something new.

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Certain you have 5 fingers. Capable to open and close the
door. Certain, little bit more
certain. I'm doing this when you come on.
A little bit certain and capable.
You're definitely capable. Of being certain that you can

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pretend to be happy so as you feel doesn't capable again
intentionally just pretend it will register something in the
neuroscience it's at the the limbic system is going to love
it because the limbic systems has been taken off the capable

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of certainly happy for how many years and the prefrontal court
is going to say yes I love this give me more give me more
absolutely somewhat capable certain happy prefrontal cortex
loves it and it insular completely inhabited and basil
ganglia will register at cognitive reinforcements happy

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Oh I like the certain 5 fingers oh sure I'm certain capable I'm
capable you should not Carmen you should see you should see my
capable show to me let me see you're capable right now I want
to see you're capable feel. It I will.
See. You're capable.

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I will feel it. This is a language.
This is who you are. You are capable, you are certain
you are happy. This is the very basic, the the
first platform of who you are, who your identity, who you are

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in your identity. Everything else is just
molecules around this. That's a beautiful shift.
That's a beautiful shift. So it takes a little.
Practice so we we need a little more than than tell for or 20
minutes, but takes a little practice.

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So the idea, the basic idea is to see how I said the
metacognition meta emotion theremight be like fancy words.
OK, so the basic idea is that you have your attention instead
of having your attention over there to where the sound is or
sometimes our thoughts are over there and we have our attention
there. Just have your bring your

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attention back around your eyes.And there's always going to be
some sort of sensation in in eyes.
And all that is, is the focal length of the eyes.
The muscles of your eyes adjust just like if, if if you are to
take your finger there and then bring your finger here and look
at it. You will feel that in the muscle
of the eyes. The similar sensation with the

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muscle of your eyes you will have when you allocate your
attention, attention point. So you bring it back and of
course going to be that in present time, like that quake,
which this happens by, it's a side effect.
It's a good side effect, right? And then as you have your

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attention there at the beginning, going to drop in and
then bring it back and then dropin and bring it.
That's all right. We all learn how to walk.
We walked and that we walked andthat's a natural flow of
learning how to how to do something different, right.
And then with well, certain and happy you pretend there.

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Are moments drop? They when you really don't feel
capable because you're so overwhelmed.
You so have something to an issue you want to resolve and
it's like I need stuff to resolve it.
Yes, but you are capable of having the intention of of

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having you are willful. You are capable of having the
willingness to change something so you nobody can ever run off.
You can never have enough capable.
Never run. Out of it.
There was always something to becapable of technology.
Or don't you get me started withtechnology.

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No, that's that's a really. Interesting kind of insight and
obviously like you're saying, it's not trance, but.
You know, just the the suggestions kind of get people
into a very kind of suggestible kind of state for those people
that want to see the talk. Obviously you're going to be mid
America conference, as am I. We're going to put a link in the

(01:20:18):
show notes. I think it's hypnosis
conference.org is the address togo to.
So check that out if you want toget last minute tickets for
that. And where's the best website for
people to learn more about you, Carmen?
The best? Website for people to learn more
about me would be feelfulness.org right there.
This let me let me show you right over here Feelfulness.

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Dot org. Yeah, I'll show it to you.
I'll check for that. We'll put that in the.
Show notes as well. Yes, we're going to.
Go right here at feelfulness.organd you you will learn a little
bit about feelfulness is and what is and and what is not.
And also this will address also filmness over here in our first

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page addresses the skepticism. There's every with anything new
that comes in, especially the fifth one is being a system.
It is being met with skepticism and that's all right.
So this first page will address all of this.
So give it give it the read. And then when you click on

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training, the training button will take you into a more
precise an understanding of whatfeelfulness does.
Brilliant So. Feelfulness.org and we'll make
sure there's a link in the description so check that out.
Carmen, it's been great to have you on the show today.
Thank you for that experience and yeah, I will see you in

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Chicago in a few days time. And for you listening check out
comments website. Carmen, thank you very much for
joining me on the show today. Thank you, Adam, this.
Was great and I look forward to seeing you in just a couple of
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