In this illuminating episode of "I Don't Believe in Astrology," host Debra Silverman engages in a profound conversation with renowned Astrologer Rick Levine.
The discussion delves into the relationship between science, religion, and Astrology, with Rick offering a fascinating quantum physics perspective on fate versus free will.
Rick also elaborates on how disillusionment can be positive—the necessary meeting of dreams with three-dimensional reality— and explores the challenges of rapid technological advancement, climate change, and societal upheaval as symptoms of evolutionary growing pains. Throughout the conversation, Rick maintains his position as a "possibleist" rather than an optimist or pessimist.
The episode concludes with Rick's powerful mantra: "Think cosmically, act locally." He emphasizes the importance of maintaining connection to our physical bodies while expanding our consciousness, choosing battles wisely, and finding the balance between flexibility and firmness.
Rick and Debra reflect on the historical exclusion of women from Astrological practice and celebrate the current renaissance of interest in Astrology as a tool for understanding ourselves and navigating these transformative times.
This conversation also provides listeners with practical wisdom for approaching the significant planetary transitions of 2025 with awareness, compassion, and engaged action. Don't miss this meeting of two Astrological powerhouses!
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How to "think cosmically, act locally"— expanding our consciousness while taking practical action
[00:01:07] Opening conversation between Debra Silverman and Rick Levine about his Aries-heavy chart
[00:01:50] Introduction to the "I Don't Believe in Astrology" podcast with host Debra Silverman
[00:02:04] Rick shares when he first started studying Astrology (1967-68) and charging for charts (1976)
[00:02:29] Rick explains why he says "I don't believe in Astrology" - he doesn't believe in the Astrology that others don't believe in
[00:02:49] Discussion of how Astrology has "bad PR" in modern society
[00:02:57] Rick explains why both organized religion and science agree on rejecting Astrology
[00:03:43] Discussion about religion's historical relationship with Astrology - they don't say it doesn't work, just "don't do it"
[00:04:33] Rick points out that Jesus invited three Magi (Astrologers) to his birth
[00:05:00] Historical context of the Catholic Church and Astrology, including Thomas Aquinas's practice
[00:05:30] Story about Rob Hand getting his PhD in ancient history from Catholic University
[00:05:47] Rob Hand's doctoral thesis on the Church's use of Astrology in medieval warfare
[00:06:35] Why modern science rejects Astrology - science requires repeatability while Astrology sees every moment as unique
[00:07:14] Discussion of KAiros vs. Chronos (qualitative vs. quantitative time)
[00:08:51] Albert Einstein's quote: "Time is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one"
[00:09:12] Rick explains how time is created by movement around a center
[00:10:47] Discussion of Saturn and Neptune and their relationship in Astrology
[00:12:11] Rick describes Jupiter as cosmic magnification and expansion
[00:13:44] The relationship between Neptune and Jupiter explained - "Neptune is Jupiter in drag"
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