January 24, 2025 • 44 mins
Summary
In this episode of the Kathy Barnette Show, host Kathy Barnett and guest J.R. McGee discuss the current geopolitical landscape, focusing on the implications of Donald Trump's presidency, the strategic moves of Russia and China, and the importance of global alliances. They explore the significance of the Arctic, cybersecurity threats, and the potential impact of BRICS on the U.S. dollar. The conversation also touches on the Middle East dynamics and the challenges facing U.S. security and leadership in a rapidly changing world.
Takeaways
Donald Trump is set to take office amidst global chaos.
Biden's policies have left the world in disarray.
Russia is forming strategic alliances with Iran.
China aims to dominate economically and militarily.
The Arctic holds significant resources and strategic importance.
Cybersecurity threats are increasing, targeting vital infrastructure.
The U.S. dollar's status as a reserve currency is at risk.
Middle East peace treaties are fragile and may not last.
Nuclear proliferation is a growing concern among nations.
America's role as a global leader is being challenged.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview of Current Events
02:58 Russia's Strategic Moves and Global Implications
06:03 China's Growing Influence and Military Ambitions
12:09 The Importance of Greenland and the Arctic
15:00 Cybersecurity Threats and Infrastructure Vulnerabilities
19:08 The State of U.S. Security and Domestic Challenges
24:03 America's Role in Global Leadership and Generosity
30:01 BRICS and the Future of the U.S. Dollar
33:50 Middle East Dynamics and Peace Treaties
38:47 Nuclear Proliferation and Global Stability
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and local with Kathy Barnett.
This is your girl Cathy Barnett, the host of the Cathy Barnett Show.
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I am so excited to be in studio today, live in studio, the number one talk radio stationin Philadelphia, covering most of the mid-Atlantic.
So I see you, New Jersey.
I see you, Delaware, Maryland, the rest of Pennsylvania.
I am so very excited to be here and to be in studio with my double good.
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friend, J.R.
McGee.
J.R.
is the founder and CEO at Extreme Leadership Group and a 30-year strategic leadership andcounterterrorism specialist and instructor in matters of military intelligence planning,
preparedness.
I literally could go...
and on and on.
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JR, you were a very vital member of my team when I was running my policy team when I wasrunning for both US Congress in 2020 and when I ran in 2022 for the US Senate seat here in
the great state of Pennsylvania.
But I am so excited because here's the reality.
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Come Monday by the grace of God at 12 p.m.
Donald Trump will take
the oath and become the 47th president of the United States.
believe everyone is, I mean, all eyes, all attention, rightfully so, is going to be realfocused on what is America doing.
But the reality is, is that Joe Biden is leaving our nation and the world in chaos.
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In fact, when China coughs, Russia sneezes, and America catches the flu.
That's how interconnected.
We all are as a globe.
And the reality is Biden, Trump will inherit chaos, not just in America, but around theworld.
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We're going to talk about it.
And in fact, if you are on Twitter right now, I am streaming live.
If you're on YouTube, you can see it.
I brought my big, beautiful globe and I'm going to spin this globe.
We're going to talk about it wherever my finger lands.
That's the
Area country continent or waters that we're going to talk about if you want to be a partof this conversation Call me eight five five eight three nine twelve ten eight five five
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eight three nine twelve ten And here we go.
I'm getting ready to spin the globe And my finger lands look at that in russia.
What's going on in russia?
Jr Well, kathy is such a privilege to be with you and your audience today.
We've been
We've only got an hour.
How in world can I tell you everything is going on with Russia?
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This is literally why I speed talk a little bit guys because there's so much information.
But here it is.
I touched Russia.
What do we need to know?
What just happened yesterday actually?
Well, Russia just signed a major agreement with Iran.
A strategic partnership agreement that's going to become a big deal for economic.
It's not military yet, but it's going to become military.
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Russia is moving into the Middle East as we all know.
Barack Obama was invited back into the Middle East by inviting Russia to come in to helpwith Syria for the chemical weapons.
you remember, he had that bright red line for chemical weapons.
When they invited Russia back in, that gave Russia a tremendous opportunity.
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to reengage in the Middle East and they have wasted no time.
they wasted no time.
mean, between Russia, the United States is the dominant protector for the majority of thecountry.
Between Russia, China, Erdogan and Turkey, we have these people who are a little bit onthe antithesis of who we are as American and our values, who are very dominant players.
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Now,
I get why I ran and you said something when we were before we came on air is that Iran islooking for an umbrella when Donald Trump left office in 2020.
Iran was on their last leg.
He had truly crippled this nation.
And then almost immediately, like within the first 100 days, Biden takes office.
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He sends another pallet of cash over to Iran and they waste no time funding Hezbollahagain, funding Hamas, funding what's going on in Sudan and beginning to attack Israel.
So.
For Iran, they have every reason to believe under this second Trump administration, theyneed an umbrella, they need protection.
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They're very concerned because they know that Trump is a man of his word.
He's already told them exactly what to expect.
The Biden administration did resuscitate Iran, not just with cash.
but political cover.
re-engage with the strategic agreement to allow Iran to continue to develop nuclearweapons, which they have.
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Don't let anybody kid you, Iran is for all intents and purposes now a nuclear nation.
Iran knows that Trump is going to provide much greater support to Israel and Israel'sprotection.
than the Biden administration has, and they're looking for a way to protect themselves.
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And Russia provides that in spades.
So they're looking for Russia to come in.
And, you know, if you look at what's happening, there's an alliance, predominantly ShiaIslam, Syria, Turkey, Yemen, the country, Iran, led by Iran.
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These countries are banding together and Russia is forming very tight alliances with ShiaIslam.
Now, Sunni Islam is Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt.
They're not wanting to be part of this.
In fact, they view this almost as an existential threat.
Because it is an existential threat.
Absolutely.
OK, I'm getting ready to, I mean, because again.
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We only have an hour.
We can talk about Russia.
What's going on here?
I want you guys to just get a sense because come January 20th, all eyes on America, onTrump, on the White House.
What is he going to do in his first 100 days?
And that is great.
It is necessary.
But there's a really big world out there and I'm the globe again.
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And where does my finger land?
look at that China of all places.
China is actually more engaged than Russia in the world.
And China is becoming extremely aggressive.
They're using their money and they're using their technology that they're rapidlydeveloping to throw their weight around.
China doesn't want to be equal as leaders in the world.
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They want to be the dominant leader in the world.
And they view that as their right.
They view that as their destiny.
And they want to control the world economically.
They want to control the world technologically.
And they want to control the world militarily.
I think, you know, there's no one more desperate than someone who feels trapped, like atrapped dog is going to come out fighting, no matter how tame and polite and gentile it
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is.
And I believe...
China more than anyone probably on the same footing as Iran feel it because Donald Trumphas been very clear a New day is about to dawn and how we interact with China.
We understand you are not Just another partner out here trying to be competitive But thatyou want to be dominant and your values your way of doing things just it's truly the
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antithesis of who we are as Americans and I have to I have to tell people the
The reason why this is so important, China took over Hong Kong and Singapore and theyviolated their agreements almost out of the gate.
But China needs Taiwan.
Taiwan is the dominant producer of semiconductor chips for the entire world.
Israel is developing that capability.
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But right now, no one produces chips that drive our technology, our cell phones, our TVs,our telecommunications, Refrigerators, everything.
Everything.
Everything is driven by chips.
And if China gets that capability, they can then control access to technology.
And you combine that with China's trying to take over the South China Sea.
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One fifth of all commerce for the entire world goes through the China Sea.
That's a tremendous amount of power.
if China controls technology, if China controls commerce, they control the world.
Yeah, everybody else will have to fall in line and not only do they want to control thesouth china sea where you have 25 of all of the world trade moves through commerce moves
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through the south china sea China wants to dominate that if they get taiwan That's thereason why they're very aggressive with the philippines right now They have very large
warships out there.
This thing is about to bubble But now donald trump has put a spotlight on um on what'sgoing on in greenland.
There's china up there
He's put a spotlight on what China is doing in Panama Canal where 70 % of the UnitedStates trade flows through the Panama Canal and China truly controls the Panama Canal
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right now.
Yeah, Jimmy Carter gave the Panama Canal to the Panamanians for $1.
Then Panama immediately wrote a contract with China.
for China to control and operate the Panama Canal from both sides.
Yeah, from both sides.
China controls all traffic, both commercial and military, through the Panama Canal.
And I was just reading that.
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down.
I was just reading about that last night, that a Hong Kong-based company currentlyoperates terminals at both ends of the canal.
Absolutely.
And again, we're being gaslit.
as a nation because we have people say, look at Donald Trump.
He's being, you know, aggressive and he wants to be the world dictator.
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He's expansionist.
But all of these things are very important.
And you've got to really pay attention to because China is spending more money on theirmilitary than people truly realize.
They're building their military faster than the United States built our military in WorldWar Two.
The numbers of fighter jets, bombers,
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and mostly naval ships that China is building right now is phenomenal.
They're almost 10 to one out building us, out manufacturing us.
Now our equipment is extremely capable.
I'm a huge fan of the F-22 and the F-35.
I was program manager of Top Gun twice, training fighter pilots.
love that no fighter pilot can compare with American fighter pilots.
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But their strategy is, OK, the F-22 right now has got a 22 to 1 shoot down ratio.
China says, OK, we'll just send 24 planes and we'll still get you.
Yeah, with the other they build 24 and we can only take out 22, that's only going to endone way.
People are underestimating China's intentions, their intent and their capability.
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China is truly on a path
to do some very aggressive stuff in 2025 and 2026.
Okay, I'm going to spend the globe one more time before we go to break.
Here is the call in number everyone 855-839-1210, 855-839-1210.
I'm spinning the globe.
Let's see where we land.
My eyes are closed and this time we're in Canada.
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Look at that.
You know, everybody thinks that Donald Trump is either crazy or just not being serious bytalking about seems so out of the blue.
In Greenland.
But well, I mean, because it seems so out of the blue.
But it's not.
It's not.
It's incredibly strategic.
Let me explain to you why China and Russia are both being very aggressive about takingover the Arctic.
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Now, the Arctic, everybody thinks that's just nothing but ice.
It's got tremendous reserves of oil, minerals and rare earth that we need, that everybodyneeds.
And Canada and Greenland occupy the majority of the Arctic.
Who ever controls Greenland and Canada controls the Arctic.
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And let me just put some numbers on that.
Let me put some numbers on that.
I mean, when you talk about, you know, just how vitally important the Arctic is.
again, Canada and Greenland controls the overwhelming majority of that.
And it is, let me see, where is it?
90 billion barrels of oil and over one point seven trillion cubic feet of natural gas.
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That.
represents about 22 % of the world's undiscovered conventional oil and natural gas.
In addition to trillions of dollars worth of minerals, including silver, copper, gold,nickel, so much more, we have a very large military base.
So this is a vitally important and rich area and hence the reason why China and Russia arevery dominant in This is example of where Donald Trump's not just good at real estate.
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He's very strategic.
And people drastically underestimate the strategic importance of these two areas.
Whoever controls the Canadian border and the Greenland border for the North is going to bein the high ground.
And I don't care whether you're in the military or in business.
Occupying the high ground is critically important.
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Whoever occupies Canada and Greenland occupy the high ground in that conflict.
And it is vitally important for whoever is going to be dominant in
and controlling the world and commerce for freedom.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, talk about the high ground.
When I went to Israel, I went to, I don't think it was the tip top of the Golan Heights,but you only need to go up on top of to any high level on the Golan Heights to realize why
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Israel cannot give up that high ground.
Whoever controls the high ground wins the battle.
Nine times out of 10.
And so that's the reason why
Getting control of Greenland as well as Canada having some sort of control whatever thatcontrol looks like America must be a dominant player in it guys You're listening to the
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Kathy Barnett show on the number one talk radio station here in Philadelphia.
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How you doing?
Delaware, how you doing New Jersey?
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Maryland, here's the call-in number.
855-839-1210.
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Okay, guys, we left off talking about, who are we talking about?
Canada, the importance of Greenland.
Let me spin the globe and let's see where we are.
Closing my eyes, my finger is where?
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Pacific Ocean.
What's going on in the Pacific Ocean?
Well, you know, there's a lot going on in the Pacific Ocean.
There's a lot of activity around cables, the underwater telephonic cables, the internetcables, fiber optic cables.
Both China and Russia are engaging in activity to deliberately damage these cables.
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both across the Atlantic and across the Pacific.
is so true.
think I read yesterday they are intentionally dragging anchors to destroy these cables.
Why?
Well, they actually caught one of the Chinese ships that was doing this in the Pacific.
And they said that if they hadn't have caught them within about 10 minutes, they wouldhave destroyed eight or nine more, which would have been catastrophic.
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Well, what are these cables?
Well, they're cables that deliver the internet.
You can take, you can go through satellite
bounce internet but the bandwidth is not anywhere near sufficient enough to carry all ofthe data that the internet requires.
These underground fiber optic cables and undersea fiber optic cables are required tosupport the bandwidth necessary for intercontinental and interstate commerce.
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You take out those cables, you start crippling and downgrading the internet and ourability to communicate.
You know, like that reminded me last year for the very first time in January, I heardChristopher Ray say that China is going to attack our vital infrastructure.
This was in January.
And then I heard him again, maybe in March at some kind of college event speaking.
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And he he said it again this year at the end of this year, at the end of last year andaround December, we saw China hack.
Janet Yellen, the US Treasury Secretary, her computer and gaining access to some level,some degree of our vital information.
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you have China is really on the war path of being very aggressive.
If you look at the drone activity that everybody got so excited about, almost all of ourundersea Atlantic cables for
for telecommunications and internet come into the United States through the area betweenBaltimore and New Jersey.
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And that's where we saw a lot of the drone activity.
These drones were mapping out both our electrical grids and our telecommunication networksfor weaknesses.
And that's deliberate.
There's no doubt about the fact that information, it's called ISR, intelligencesurveillance reconnaissance.
These ISR missions have been
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very deliberate, very out in the open.
Now here's an interesting point not a lot of people is talking about.
If they're willing to do this and willing to be seen and observed, that means they nolonger care that they know we're doing it.
That means that they're almost ready to do whatever it is that they're going to go do.
And I think Christopher Ray finally had to say something because the threat is so imminentand it's so severe.
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I think what we're looking at is the potential that makes 9-11
look like almost nothing in comparison.
extremely, extremely aggressive.
They are in our face.
This is not being done behind closed doors.
And I think one of the dangers is that many of us here in America, Donald Trump, by thegrace of God, is going to be taking office soon.
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And many of us feel like, whoo, we can kick our feet back up now.
No.
No, I think people feel very desperate.
If you want to be a part of the conversation,
Call me 855-839-1210, 855-839-1210.
I am spinning the globe.
And where do I land?
United States.
well, know, again, in one hour, I couldn't even begin to cover all that.
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But I have to tell you, after 45 years in intelligence and counterterrorism, I don't thinkI've ever been as concerned about the security of our country as I am today for multiple
different reasons.
You know, I'm so sorry, Kirk, can you bring up?
you make sure J.R.
is on YouTube as well?
Yeah.
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OK, go ahead.
The people pay attention to the wildfires and they should.
That's catastrophic.
Those wildfires we're finding out now were intentionally set by a large portion.
And Iran has made it a point over several years to make it known that wildfires were oneof their strategic initiatives.
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to use against the United States.
And you know, doesn't have to be done by an Iranian.
They can go pay somebody to do something for them.
A lot of these things that are happening are coordinated, they're calibrated, and they'reintentional.
You look at what's happening in so many different areas, the instability, the attack onour infrastructures, the attack on our norms, our customs.
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getting the United States to be so divided.
don't have to listen.
China has figured out they don't have to attack the military like they did in World WarII.
All they have to do is take out the things that support our society and it will causegreat chaos.
We're no longer able to resist them.
Yeah.
They don't have to fight us militarily.
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They just take out our electricity and our telecommunications and we will beg them to givethem whatever they want in order to turn it back on.
The American people have zero tolerance for inconvenience.
And the Chinese have learned that.
The Russians have learned that.
Yeah.
I'm spending the globe.
Let's see.
Where do we land?
Keeping my eyes open this time.
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OK, I'm still over here.
Hey, the Gulf of Mexico.
Well, know, Donald Trump did say he'd like to change it to the Gulf of America.
I don't know what that's about.
Yeah.
I think it's just, you because I was thinking about it, right?
Like, I mean, like, what's in the name?
And, you know, the name tells you so much.
And what I think Donald Trump is bringing back into fashion is that America is here.
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We are no longer your chumps.
We will no longer pay you to take from us, right?
And to just leave.
I mean, literally, we send over, I remember being in college and watching Clinton.
talk about bringing China into the World Trade Organization.
So we sent all of our manufacturing facilities over to China and then we have NAFTA.
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We're sending all of our jobs down to NAFTA.
Now we, you and they told us, hey, don't worry.
We're gonna send all of these working class jobs over into, you know, around the world tobuild up their middle class.
But don't worry Americans, we're gonna retool you.
for the information jobs.
Now we have the information jobs and we're being told, well, Americans are either too dumbor too lazy to do those jobs.
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So now we have to import the rest of the world into America to do those jobs.
But now we have AI.
And so now AI is you have these virtual assistants that's about to come and take overthese jobs.
what, so what.
Where did that leave Americans?
And one of the things I think Donald Trump is bringing back into fashion is not onlytestosterone, you know, for individual men to stand up and be men again, but testosterone
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around the world.
We are no longer your punks and your chumps.
You know, it's interesting that since World War II, the American people have given moremoney to more countries and for more aid and for more disasters than anybody in history.
People talk a lot about American exceptionalism.
That does not mean that Americans are better than anybody else.
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It doesn't mean that we know more.
American exceptionalism means that we chose to rule ourselves rather than to have agovernment rule us.
That's what makes us exceptional.
And one of the things that's an artifact of that exceptionalism is our generosity.
Americans are exceptional because we will give money, will give aid, we will give supportto anybody in need.
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We have given billions and trillions of dollars since World War II to everybody in theworld.
I can promise you, if Russia and China become the dominant powers, they will not be asbenevolent as the United States has been.
We have made mistakes.
We've done some things that were terrible.
I will never defend every single thing that we've done in the world.
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But America is truly exceptional because America is the one place where the people aresupposed to be the rulers of themselves.
And we've chosen to have a culture where we want to help other people and bring them up tospeed.
So when we do that, we give people the opportunity to become their best selves.
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That's exceptional.
That's exceptional except for the fact that you know, the rest of the world Everyone isnot like us and I think that that's been one of america's greatest achilles heel Is that
we think everyone wants to be just like us and that's not the case I remember when obamatook office and he was talking about look in arab spring They want democracy.
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No their idea of democracy is not our idea of democracy And so when you walk into
other parts of the world as a young girl.
I'm in the military.
I'm traveling the world and you're going into different countries.
And one of the things I realized very quickly, like for example, when I went to SouthKorea, I realized I'm not in Kansas anymore.
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This is not America, right?
Their idea of democracy was, and they would consider themselves a democracy, but theirform of democracy is very different from ours.
When I saw young girls being sold,
by their fathers for farm equipment.
I saw that.
And I talked to these young girls and this is what they specifically told me.
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That's not any democracy I've seen in America.
And so we have to realize that when we're walking out of our, I think it's great to travelthe world because then you can come back here and begin to have a greater appreciation for
America.
God has blessed me to be able to have worked in 56 countries now.
And I have
I've been around the world several times.
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Not bad for a boy from South Alabama.
And I've seen so many different things and seen so many different cultures and every oneof them's got their strengths and every one of them's got their weaknesses.
America is no different.
We have strengths and we have weaknesses.
But I think one of the things that makes America truly different is we care about otherpeople.
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We care about helping people.
And you don't see that.
Most cultures, most countries
solely focus on themselves.
And we have to protect that.
And I think that a lot of people, where I'm going with this is people are making a lot outof Make America Great Again, as if we're only gonna focus on Americans.
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I think what we're trying to do is regain that ability for the people themselves to governourselves rather than have a bureaucracy govern us against our will.
Yeah.
And that...
And I think that that makes the rest of the world so much better somebody's gonna feelthat void Hey guys, you're listening to Kathy Barnett.
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The call-in number is eight five five eight three nine twelve ten Where are y'all y'allreal quiet today?
Give me a call eight five five eight three nine twelve ten talk to you soon Shelly Iappreciate your comments out here You said Americans need to realize that not everyone in
the world has the same point of view as the Americans grew up with
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And as I get older, I definitely definitely do not have such an idealistic point of viewanymore Shelley I agree, let me just spin the globe but let's see where we end up where am
I i'm back over here.
In China, but let's go over you know what actually i'm in Bangladesh actually that's whatmy finger is Bangladesh.
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You know, toward right right before the end of last year, you had Shay Casina get kickedout, booted by her people, right?
And it's supposed to be this student led group, right?
So it's organic and it's and it's grassroots.
It's the people rising up.
Not the case, I believe.
Now she's over in and India can't go anywhere.
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But now what the people in Bangladesh are seeing is this totalitarian.
There's an interesting issue with.
that people don't realize how important this is, but India, Bangladesh, Kashmir, andPakistan, that area is a hotbed of all kinds of things, very similar to the Middle East,
almost exactly the same reasons.
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Here's an interesting thing.
India outpopulates China now.
People think China has more people.
India now has more people than China does.
And India is really...
being very aggressive in developing technology and commerce.
India is really coming into her own, but that Bangladesh Kashmir region is still creatinga lot of tension between Pakistan just with Pakistan and India, but India and China.
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Absolutely.
China is very aggressive on the northern borders of India.
They just fought a very big battle about a year ago when China didn't do well.
Yeah, exactly.
India handled themselves extremely well in that battle and it was over the border thatChina shares with India.
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People need to pay attention to that region because that's going to become more and moreimportant economically and strategically as they continue to develop.
believe so.
You know, speaking of China and India, what about this BRICS?
B-R-I-C-S, stands for
What is Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa?
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And there's now 26 countries that have aligned with the BRICS.
What's the problem?
Not the problem.
The initiative of BRICS is to develop a currency to replace the US dollars, the WorldReserve currency.
And they're on the verge of doing that.
Their entire objective is to form an economic alliance that replaces the United States asthe dominant economic
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driver in the world.
And this is really being, mean, like a lot of a lot of those particular, you know, Brazil,Russia, China, South Africa don't necessarily care for America anyway.
But I think they got an accelerant when Biden administration came into office and startedusing sanctions as a way to cripple people.
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Sanctions can go either way.
And right now it is really not benefited us.
Kathy, no one can show me one single example where an economic sanction has had theintended purposes long term, short term, maybe.
Sanctions do not work long term.
Every country finds a way around that sanction and continues to do what they want to do.
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Let me give you a good example.
Joe Biden said at the beginning of the Russian Ukraine conflict, they were going to imposefinancial sanctions on Russia and cripple them and quote, bring them to their knees.
The Russian ruble today is stronger than it was at the beginning.
Those sanctions are a joke.
have not done anything to people to find ways to decouple themselves.
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That's exactly what's driving the bricks to find ways to get around the US dollar being areserve currency.
Now, Donald Trump actually spoke out specifically about this last week at his Mar-a-Lagopresser where he said, if you think I'm going to sit back
I'm paraphrasing, but he said, if you think I'm going to sit back while you brigs find analternative to the U S dollar, you got another thing coming to you.
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why that's so important.
The U S dollar is a reserve currency.
That's the only thing that allows us to print $35 trillion worth of debt.
The moment that our dollars no longer reserve currency, our economy collapses much worsethan 1929.
It will be.
far worse than the economic collapse and the depression of 1929.
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And our dollar is unstable right now.
We're hanging by a thread because Russia and China have figured out that they can survive.
Not just survive, but they now trading oil in the Middle East with the BRIC currencies andthe Chinese yuan, not the US dollar.
That's the beginning.
That's the beginning of the end for the US dollar because that reserve currency status
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was always based on a treaty that Richard Nixon signed with Saudi Arabia in 1973.
And you saw Saudi Arabia has decided last year or maybe in 2023 when they say we were nolonger trade exclusively.
That's exactly right.
dollar.
The reserve currency status was tied to the value of the oil in the ground in SaudiArabia.
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And last year, Saudi Arabia said that is we're no longer honoring that treaty.
So our dollar was traded on gold.
Then it was traded on oil in the ground in Saudi Arabia.
Now it has nothing to back it up.
That makes our dollar incredibly so when you have a collection of countries, now 26countries, a part of the BRICS, their primary purpose is to decouple themselves from the
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need to trade in the US dollar.
So they're creating their own value.
And you know, people say, well that
that money, we just owe it to ourselves.
No, we don't.
We owe most of it to China.
We a lot of it to Russia.
We owe lot of it to Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is the biggest purchaser of American treasury bonds.
Hence the reason why I said China sneezes, Russia coughs, we catch the flu, right?
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We are highly, we are not an island unto ourselves.
do not, we're not in a little bubble.
And when our leaders say things, do things, implement things, it truly has an impact onthe rest of the world.
And the rest of the world is just kind of irritated, it seems, with America right now.
not just irritated.
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They're concerned.
They're scared.
Because they hold so much of America's debt.
And at $35 trillion, and we're continuing to spend like a drunken...
I'm sorry, that's not fair to drunken sailors.
We're spending money at a ferocious rate.
that we can't pay back and we owe that money to them and at some point they're going tosay, a minute, these treasury bonds, these T-bills, these assets that we purchased are
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stable are they?
So let me spin the globe.
Here we go.
Where am I going?
I'm going to hit right here.
I'm in the Middle East.
wow.
I'm in the Middle East, Israel, Lebanon, Iran.
The interesting thing right now, the big news is this peace treaty.
And it's going to take effect at 830 in the morning tomorrow, Jerusalem time, not Easterntime, Jerusalem time.
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And people think that this is the end.
It's over.
It is not.
I mean, like at this point, Israel is bombing the mess.
Yes.
And Yemen just launched two more intercontinental ballistic missiles at Israel thismorning.
but they're only going to release three female hostages tomorrow.
They're going to release four more female hostages a week from now.
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when you say they, you're talking about Hamas.
Hamas.
going to release 26 hostages over the next five weeks after that.
Maybe.
And in response, Israel is going to release 900 people that are in prison for murder.
Well, that doesn't seem very balanced.
it's as balanced.
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Israel is a very generous nation.
it doesn't seem balanced, but they value life more than death.
Hamas values death more than life.
but, but people think that this ceasefire is it's it.
It's not, it's actually designed to fail.
Because if Hamas doesn't release all the hostages, what happens?
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Israel is going to release all their prisoners.
What happens if, if Hamas doesn't release the hostages?
What happens if in phase two?
They failed to negotiate the next series of actions, is Israel further withdrawing fromGaza.
And then who's going to rebuild Gaza?
There's so many things.
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And who's going to own Gaza?
it going to, is going back to the Palestinians?
Well, mean, the Palestinian authority is saying they're ready to step in.
I don't think so.
But that's like saying, well, we're going to fix your cancer, but we're going to give youdementia instead.
Yeah, it's not a good idea.
because the Palestinian Authority are very crippled in their ability.
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I mean, they haven't even had an election since 2006, I believe, because the people wantHamas.
They want Hamas.
They want Hamas.
Kathy, this is this whole situation.
I think Donald Trump did a very good thing when he said there's all hell going to breakloose if there's not a signed treaty.
And that's the reason this has nothing to do with Biden.
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Nothing.
But what they've done is they've cobbled together something both sides can agree to fortomorrow, the day before.
But it is not comprehensive.
It is not effective and it's not going to last.
It's something that gets both sides off the hook so that they can move through thisdiplomatically.
I think people should be very concerned long term over how this plays out.
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I'm going to be paying very close attention to it.
Most, as you know, my expertise is Middle Eastern and geopolitical affairs.
Okay.
And the Middle East right now is a tender box.
Syria failed.
There's an awful lot going on with that.
Turkey.
And you have Yemen.
Yemen is really raising up.
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Yemen is the only one of the crown jewels that Iran has built.
They built Hezbollah.
They built Hamas.
They built Islamic Jihad.
And they built the force of the Houthis in Yemen.
Israel has not defeated the Houthis in Yemen.
And this peace treaty has nothing to do with Yemen.
So this war continues.
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So this is not like, OK, all is going well again.
What's the point of having this conversation?
Because we do need to remove the blinders.
And I know we have to pick our battles.
There's so much going on.
But my hope is that now that Donald Trump is back in office, we don't take that as a cueto put our feet up and and and have a sigh of relief.
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We must stay prayerful.
and prayerfully engage.
See y'all on the other side.
I am like literally jamming to this song.
I love it, love it.
I enjoy it.
Yes, hey listen, I have a really cool comment from Shelly.
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Shelly, you are awesome.
I would love for you to call in and to anyone else at 855-839-1210.
I'm just gonna kind of scroll back up here on YouTube where Shelly says, 13 countries tobecome partner countries.
These countries are Algeria, Belarus, I love.
Same, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Thailand, Turkey,Uganda, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam.
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And I was asking JR, has he heard about this?
And again, this is kind of in line with what we're talking about, that the rest of theworld is watching primarily the instability of the United States, the instability in how
we've interacted with Russia, China, and others.
And these smaller countries are saying, wait a minute, maybe we need to come together.
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know, nature abhors a vacuum and politics abhors a vacuum as well.
And when you have a vacuum of leadership, it gets filled.
There's two things that these small countries have learned in the last, I'd say, eight to10 years between Obama and then first rule of Trump and then the Biden administration.
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And that is there's two things that will give them a voice.
One is if they band together as a group, an alliance, a large group of small countries hasa much bigger voice than any one country by itself.
The second thing is nuclear weapons.
If you have nuclear weapons, people pay attention to you.
And if you can't get nuclear weapons, the only thing that you can go do is band togetherwith a group of like-minded other countries.
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that give you a bigger voice on the world stage that makes sure people pay attention toyou.
you hearing any concerns of this rush to nuclear armament?
Let me go back and say one thing that a lot of people paid a great deal of attention to.
In 1993, Clinton and Tony Blair in England signed a treaty with Ukraine.
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Guaranteeing to protect them against Russian aggression in exchange for giving up theirnuclear weapons.
they gave up their nuclear weapons.
gave up their nuclear weapons.
Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.
protection from NATO.
No, not from NATO, from the United States and Great Britain.
OK.
And we promised them that if Russia ever was aggressive or attacked them, we would protectthem.
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We haven't done that.
We've given them weapons.
We've given them a tremendous amount of money.
But we haven't protected them.
Ukraine is only standing right now as a result of America's influence.
have not fulfilled what we promised in that treaty.
Other countries are paid great.
Protect them.
Police on the ground.
That's what that treaty said we were going to go do and we have not done it.
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didn't we also make a promise to Russia that NATO would not move?
Absolutely.
Well, we say they wouldn't move.
Country into that areas onto their border and we're and we're and we're right exactly Sothis isn't just what I mean, you know, generally when we come to these discussions, we're
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like, okay black and white Yes or no up or down and it's and it's much more complicatedthan that, right?
America made some promises to Ukraine, but here's America Ukraine and Europe made somepromises to Russia Here's the consequences for that because Ukraine gave up their weapons
in exchange for supposed protection and that didn't happen
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Iran says, the only way we're going to be able to truly be a player is to have nuclearweapons.
Pakistan, the only reason we're going to be able to be paid attention to is nuclearweapons.
Even Saudi Arabia is now discussing beginning a nuclear program.
A lot of countries out there have taken a lesson from this situation between Russia wecannot trust America to create stability.
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can't trust a treaty.
I mean, here's the reality.
There are some in America and in my own movement who just want to, you know, let's justfocus on what's on the inside of our four borders.
You can't live that way because we create a vacuum in the world.
Someone is going to rise up and say, I want to take over the world.
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America has...
Someone has to be there if it's not us.
It's gonna be China.
It's gonna be Russia.
It's gonna be somebody We're getting ready to leave.
I think this is it right hurt guys.
Thank you so much for listening Do you have a second you will give you the last minute?
Thank you for having me on and I hope that some of the things that we've talked about havebeen a value and I want to Tell everybody pay attention the world does affect your
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billfold and the world does affect your family
You have to look at it from the right way.
Absolutely, guys.
Thank you so much for listening to the Kathy Barnett Show.
Go find me out there on Twitter at Kathy for Truth or on my website at KathyBarnett.com.
Blessings!
and local with Kathy Barnett.
This is your girl Cathy Barnett, the host of the Cathy Barnett Show.
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I am so excited to be in studio today, live in studio, the number one talk radio stationin Philadelphia, covering most of the mid-Atlantic.
So I see you, New Jersey.
I see you, Delaware, Maryland, the rest of Pennsylvania.
I am so very excited to be here and to be in studio with my double good.
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friend, J.R.
McGee.
J.R.
is the founder and CEO at Extreme Leadership Group and a 30-year strategic leadership andcounterterrorism specialist and instructor in matters of military intelligence planning,
preparedness.
I literally could go...
and on and on.
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JR, you were a very vital member of my team when I was running my policy team when I wasrunning for both US Congress in 2020 and when I ran in 2022 for the US Senate seat here in
the great state of Pennsylvania.
But I am so excited because here's the reality.
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Come Monday by the grace of God at 12 p.m.
Donald Trump will take
the oath and become the 47th president of the United States.
believe everyone is, I mean, all eyes, all attention, rightfully so, is going to be realfocused on what is America doing.
But the reality is, is that Joe Biden is leaving our nation and the world in chaos.
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In fact, when China coughs, Russia sneezes, and America catches the flu.
That's how interconnected.
We all are as a globe.
And the reality is Biden, Trump will inherit chaos, not just in America, but around theworld.
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We're going to talk about it.
And in fact, if you are on Twitter right now, I am streaming live.
If you're on YouTube, you can see it.
I brought my big, beautiful globe and I'm going to spin this globe.
We're going to talk about it wherever my finger lands.
That's the
Area country continent or waters that we're going to talk about if you want to be a partof this conversation Call me eight five five eight three nine twelve ten eight five five
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eight three nine twelve ten And here we go.
I'm getting ready to spin the globe And my finger lands look at that in russia.
What's going on in russia?
Jr Well, kathy is such a privilege to be with you and your audience today.
We've been
We've only got an hour.
How in world can I tell you everything is going on with Russia?
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This is literally why I speed talk a little bit guys because there's so much information.
But here it is.
I touched Russia.
What do we need to know?
What just happened yesterday actually?
Well, Russia just signed a major agreement with Iran.
A strategic partnership agreement that's going to become a big deal for economic.
It's not military yet, but it's going to become military.
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Russia is moving into the Middle East as we all know.
Barack Obama was invited back into the Middle East by inviting Russia to come in to helpwith Syria for the chemical weapons.
you remember, he had that bright red line for chemical weapons.
When they invited Russia back in, that gave Russia a tremendous opportunity.
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to reengage in the Middle East and they have wasted no time.
they wasted no time.
mean, between Russia, the United States is the dominant protector for the majority of thecountry.
Between Russia, China, Erdogan and Turkey, we have these people who are a little bit onthe antithesis of who we are as American and our values, who are very dominant players.
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Now,
I get why I ran and you said something when we were before we came on air is that Iran islooking for an umbrella when Donald Trump left office in 2020.
Iran was on their last leg.
He had truly crippled this nation.
And then almost immediately, like within the first 100 days, Biden takes office.
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He sends another pallet of cash over to Iran and they waste no time funding Hezbollahagain, funding Hamas, funding what's going on in Sudan and beginning to attack Israel.
So.
For Iran, they have every reason to believe under this second Trump administration, theyneed an umbrella, they need protection.
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They're very concerned because they know that Trump is a man of his word.
He's already told them exactly what to expect.
The Biden administration did resuscitate Iran, not just with cash.
but political cover.
re-engage with the strategic agreement to allow Iran to continue to develop nuclearweapons, which they have.
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Don't let anybody kid you, Iran is for all intents and purposes now a nuclear nation.
Iran knows that Trump is going to provide much greater support to Israel and Israel'sprotection.
than the Biden administration has, and they're looking for a way to protect themselves.
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And Russia provides that in spades.
So they're looking for Russia to come in.
And, you know, if you look at what's happening, there's an alliance, predominantly ShiaIslam, Syria, Turkey, Yemen, the country, Iran, led by Iran.
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These countries are banding together and Russia is forming very tight alliances with ShiaIslam.
Now, Sunni Islam is Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt.
They're not wanting to be part of this.
In fact, they view this almost as an existential threat.
Because it is an existential threat.
Absolutely.
OK, I'm getting ready to, I mean, because again.
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We only have an hour.
We can talk about Russia.
What's going on here?
I want you guys to just get a sense because come January 20th, all eyes on America, onTrump, on the White House.
What is he going to do in his first 100 days?
And that is great.
It is necessary.
But there's a really big world out there and I'm the globe again.
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And where does my finger land?
look at that China of all places.
China is actually more engaged than Russia in the world.
And China is becoming extremely aggressive.
They're using their money and they're using their technology that they're rapidlydeveloping to throw their weight around.
China doesn't want to be equal as leaders in the world.
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They want to be the dominant leader in the world.
And they view that as their right.
They view that as their destiny.
And they want to control the world economically.
They want to control the world technologically.
And they want to control the world militarily.
I think, you know, there's no one more desperate than someone who feels trapped, like atrapped dog is going to come out fighting, no matter how tame and polite and gentile it
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is.
And I believe...
China more than anyone probably on the same footing as Iran feel it because Donald Trumphas been very clear a New day is about to dawn and how we interact with China.
We understand you are not Just another partner out here trying to be competitive But thatyou want to be dominant and your values your way of doing things just it's truly the
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antithesis of who we are as Americans and I have to I have to tell people the
The reason why this is so important, China took over Hong Kong and Singapore and theyviolated their agreements almost out of the gate.
But China needs Taiwan.
Taiwan is the dominant producer of semiconductor chips for the entire world.
Israel is developing that capability.
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But right now, no one produces chips that drive our technology, our cell phones, our TVs,our telecommunications, Refrigerators, everything.
Everything.
Everything is driven by chips.
And if China gets that capability, they can then control access to technology.
And you combine that with China's trying to take over the South China Sea.
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One fifth of all commerce for the entire world goes through the China Sea.
That's a tremendous amount of power.
if China controls technology, if China controls commerce, they control the world.
Yeah, everybody else will have to fall in line and not only do they want to control thesouth china sea where you have 25 of all of the world trade moves through commerce moves
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through the south china sea China wants to dominate that if they get taiwan That's thereason why they're very aggressive with the philippines right now They have very large
warships out there.
This thing is about to bubble But now donald trump has put a spotlight on um on what'sgoing on in greenland.
There's china up there
He's put a spotlight on what China is doing in Panama Canal where 70 % of the UnitedStates trade flows through the Panama Canal and China truly controls the Panama Canal
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right now.
Yeah, Jimmy Carter gave the Panama Canal to the Panamanians for $1.
Then Panama immediately wrote a contract with China.
for China to control and operate the Panama Canal from both sides.
Yeah, from both sides.
China controls all traffic, both commercial and military, through the Panama Canal.
And I was just reading that.
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down.
I was just reading about that last night, that a Hong Kong-based company currentlyoperates terminals at both ends of the canal.
Absolutely.
And again, we're being gaslit.
as a nation because we have people say, look at Donald Trump.
He's being, you know, aggressive and he wants to be the world dictator.
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He's expansionist.
But all of these things are very important.
And you've got to really pay attention to because China is spending more money on theirmilitary than people truly realize.
They're building their military faster than the United States built our military in WorldWar Two.
The numbers of fighter jets, bombers,
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and mostly naval ships that China is building right now is phenomenal.
They're almost 10 to one out building us, out manufacturing us.
Now our equipment is extremely capable.
I'm a huge fan of the F-22 and the F-35.
I was program manager of Top Gun twice, training fighter pilots.
love that no fighter pilot can compare with American fighter pilots.
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But their strategy is, OK, the F-22 right now has got a 22 to 1 shoot down ratio.
China says, OK, we'll just send 24 planes and we'll still get you.
Yeah, with the other they build 24 and we can only take out 22, that's only going to endone way.
People are underestimating China's intentions, their intent and their capability.
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China is truly on a path
to do some very aggressive stuff in 2025 and 2026.
Okay, I'm going to spend the globe one more time before we go to break.
Here is the call in number everyone 855-839-1210, 855-839-1210.
I'm spinning the globe.
Let's see where we land.
My eyes are closed and this time we're in Canada.
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Look at that.
You know, everybody thinks that Donald Trump is either crazy or just not being serious bytalking about seems so out of the blue.
In Greenland.
But well, I mean, because it seems so out of the blue.
But it's not.
It's not.
It's incredibly strategic.
Let me explain to you why China and Russia are both being very aggressive about takingover the Arctic.
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Now, the Arctic, everybody thinks that's just nothing but ice.
It's got tremendous reserves of oil, minerals and rare earth that we need, that everybodyneeds.
And Canada and Greenland occupy the majority of the Arctic.
Who ever controls Greenland and Canada controls the Arctic.
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And let me just put some numbers on that.
Let me put some numbers on that.
I mean, when you talk about, you know, just how vitally important the Arctic is.
again, Canada and Greenland controls the overwhelming majority of that.
And it is, let me see, where is it?
90 billion barrels of oil and over one point seven trillion cubic feet of natural gas.
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That.
represents about 22 % of the world's undiscovered conventional oil and natural gas.
In addition to trillions of dollars worth of minerals, including silver, copper, gold,nickel, so much more, we have a very large military base.
So this is a vitally important and rich area and hence the reason why China and Russia arevery dominant in This is example of where Donald Trump's not just good at real estate.
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He's very strategic.
And people drastically underestimate the strategic importance of these two areas.
Whoever controls the Canadian border and the Greenland border for the North is going to bein the high ground.
And I don't care whether you're in the military or in business.
Occupying the high ground is critically important.
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Whoever occupies Canada and Greenland occupy the high ground in that conflict.
And it is vitally important for whoever is going to be dominant in
and controlling the world and commerce for freedom.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, talk about the high ground.
When I went to Israel, I went to, I don't think it was the tip top of the Golan Heights,but you only need to go up on top of to any high level on the Golan Heights to realize why
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Israel cannot give up that high ground.
Whoever controls the high ground wins the battle.
Nine times out of 10.
And so that's the reason why
Getting control of Greenland as well as Canada having some sort of control whatever thatcontrol looks like America must be a dominant player in it guys You're listening to the
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Okay, guys, we left off talking about, who are we talking about?
Canada, the importance of Greenland.
Let me spin the globe and let's see where we are.
Closing my eyes, my finger is where?
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Pacific Ocean.
What's going on in the Pacific Ocean?
Well, you know, there's a lot going on in the Pacific Ocean.
There's a lot of activity around cables, the underwater telephonic cables, the internetcables, fiber optic cables.
Both China and Russia are engaging in activity to deliberately damage these cables.
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both across the Atlantic and across the Pacific.
is so true.
think I read yesterday they are intentionally dragging anchors to destroy these cables.
Why?
Well, they actually caught one of the Chinese ships that was doing this in the Pacific.
And they said that if they hadn't have caught them within about 10 minutes, they wouldhave destroyed eight or nine more, which would have been catastrophic.
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Well, what are these cables?
Well, they're cables that deliver the internet.
You can take, you can go through satellite
bounce internet but the bandwidth is not anywhere near sufficient enough to carry all ofthe data that the internet requires.
These underground fiber optic cables and undersea fiber optic cables are required tosupport the bandwidth necessary for intercontinental and interstate commerce.
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You take out those cables, you start crippling and downgrading the internet and ourability to communicate.
You know, like that reminded me last year for the very first time in January, I heardChristopher Ray say that China is going to attack our vital infrastructure.
This was in January.
And then I heard him again, maybe in March at some kind of college event speaking.
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And he he said it again this year at the end of this year, at the end of last year andaround December, we saw China hack.
Janet Yellen, the US Treasury Secretary, her computer and gaining access to some level,some degree of our vital information.
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you have China is really on the war path of being very aggressive.
If you look at the drone activity that everybody got so excited about, almost all of ourundersea Atlantic cables for
for telecommunications and internet come into the United States through the area betweenBaltimore and New Jersey.
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And that's where we saw a lot of the drone activity.
These drones were mapping out both our electrical grids and our telecommunication networksfor weaknesses.
And that's deliberate.
There's no doubt about the fact that information, it's called ISR, intelligencesurveillance reconnaissance.
These ISR missions have been
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very deliberate, very out in the open.
Now here's an interesting point not a lot of people is talking about.
If they're willing to do this and willing to be seen and observed, that means they nolonger care that they know we're doing it.
That means that they're almost ready to do whatever it is that they're going to go do.
And I think Christopher Ray finally had to say something because the threat is so imminentand it's so severe.
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I think what we're looking at is the potential that makes 9-11
look like almost nothing in comparison.
extremely, extremely aggressive.
They are in our face.
This is not being done behind closed doors.
And I think one of the dangers is that many of us here in America, Donald Trump, by thegrace of God, is going to be taking office soon.
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And many of us feel like, whoo, we can kick our feet back up now.
No.
No, I think people feel very desperate.
If you want to be a part of the conversation,
Call me 855-839-1210, 855-839-1210.
I am spinning the globe.
And where do I land?
United States.
well, know, again, in one hour, I couldn't even begin to cover all that.
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But I have to tell you, after 45 years in intelligence and counterterrorism, I don't thinkI've ever been as concerned about the security of our country as I am today for multiple
different reasons.
You know, I'm so sorry, Kirk, can you bring up?
you make sure J.R.
is on YouTube as well?
Yeah.
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OK, go ahead.
The people pay attention to the wildfires and they should.
That's catastrophic.
Those wildfires we're finding out now were intentionally set by a large portion.
And Iran has made it a point over several years to make it known that wildfires were oneof their strategic initiatives.
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to use against the United States.
And you know, doesn't have to be done by an Iranian.
They can go pay somebody to do something for them.
A lot of these things that are happening are coordinated, they're calibrated, and they'reintentional.
You look at what's happening in so many different areas, the instability, the attack onour infrastructures, the attack on our norms, our customs.
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getting the United States to be so divided.
don't have to listen.
China has figured out they don't have to attack the military like they did in World WarII.
All they have to do is take out the things that support our society and it will causegreat chaos.
We're no longer able to resist them.
Yeah.
They don't have to fight us militarily.
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They just take out our electricity and our telecommunications and we will beg them to givethem whatever they want in order to turn it back on.
The American people have zero tolerance for inconvenience.
And the Chinese have learned that.
The Russians have learned that.
Yeah.
I'm spending the globe.
Let's see.
Where do we land?
Keeping my eyes open this time.
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OK, I'm still over here.
Hey, the Gulf of Mexico.
Well, know, Donald Trump did say he'd like to change it to the Gulf of America.
I don't know what that's about.
Yeah.
I think it's just, you because I was thinking about it, right?
Like, I mean, like, what's in the name?
And, you know, the name tells you so much.
And what I think Donald Trump is bringing back into fashion is that America is here.
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We are no longer your chumps.
We will no longer pay you to take from us, right?
And to just leave.
I mean, literally, we send over, I remember being in college and watching Clinton.
talk about bringing China into the World Trade Organization.
So we sent all of our manufacturing facilities over to China and then we have NAFTA.
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We're sending all of our jobs down to NAFTA.
Now we, you and they told us, hey, don't worry.
We're gonna send all of these working class jobs over into, you know, around the world tobuild up their middle class.
But don't worry Americans, we're gonna retool you.
for the information jobs.
Now we have the information jobs and we're being told, well, Americans are either too dumbor too lazy to do those jobs.
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So now we have to import the rest of the world into America to do those jobs.
But now we have AI.
And so now AI is you have these virtual assistants that's about to come and take overthese jobs.
what, so what.
Where did that leave Americans?
And one of the things I think Donald Trump is bringing back into fashion is not onlytestosterone, you know, for individual men to stand up and be men again, but testosterone
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around the world.
We are no longer your punks and your chumps.
You know, it's interesting that since World War II, the American people have given moremoney to more countries and for more aid and for more disasters than anybody in history.
People talk a lot about American exceptionalism.
That does not mean that Americans are better than anybody else.
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It doesn't mean that we know more.
American exceptionalism means that we chose to rule ourselves rather than to have agovernment rule us.
That's what makes us exceptional.
And one of the things that's an artifact of that exceptionalism is our generosity.
Americans are exceptional because we will give money, will give aid, we will give supportto anybody in need.
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We have given billions and trillions of dollars since World War II to everybody in theworld.
I can promise you, if Russia and China become the dominant powers, they will not be asbenevolent as the United States has been.
We have made mistakes.
We've done some things that were terrible.
I will never defend every single thing that we've done in the world.
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But America is truly exceptional because America is the one place where the people aresupposed to be the rulers of themselves.
And we've chosen to have a culture where we want to help other people and bring them up tospeed.
So when we do that, we give people the opportunity to become their best selves.
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That's exceptional.
That's exceptional except for the fact that you know, the rest of the world Everyone isnot like us and I think that that's been one of america's greatest achilles heel Is that
we think everyone wants to be just like us and that's not the case I remember when obamatook office and he was talking about look in arab spring They want democracy.
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No their idea of democracy is not our idea of democracy And so when you walk into
other parts of the world as a young girl.
I'm in the military.
I'm traveling the world and you're going into different countries.
And one of the things I realized very quickly, like for example, when I went to SouthKorea, I realized I'm not in Kansas anymore.
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This is not America, right?
Their idea of democracy was, and they would consider themselves a democracy, but theirform of democracy is very different from ours.
When I saw young girls being sold,
by their fathers for farm equipment.
I saw that.
And I talked to these young girls and this is what they specifically told me.
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That's not any democracy I've seen in America.
And so we have to realize that when we're walking out of our, I think it's great to travelthe world because then you can come back here and begin to have a greater appreciation for
America.
God has blessed me to be able to have worked in 56 countries now.
And I have
I've been around the world several times.
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Not bad for a boy from South Alabama.
And I've seen so many different things and seen so many different cultures and every oneof them's got their strengths and every one of them's got their weaknesses.
America is no different.
We have strengths and we have weaknesses.
But I think one of the things that makes America truly different is we care about otherpeople.
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We care about helping people.
And you don't see that.
Most cultures, most countries
solely focus on themselves.
And we have to protect that.
And I think that a lot of people, where I'm going with this is people are making a lot outof Make America Great Again, as if we're only gonna focus on Americans.
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I think what we're trying to do is regain that ability for the people themselves to governourselves rather than have a bureaucracy govern us against our will.
Yeah.
And that...
And I think that that makes the rest of the world so much better somebody's gonna feelthat void Hey guys, you're listening to Kathy Barnett.
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The call-in number is eight five five eight three nine twelve ten Where are y'all y'allreal quiet today?
Give me a call eight five five eight three nine twelve ten talk to you soon Shelly Iappreciate your comments out here You said Americans need to realize that not everyone in
the world has the same point of view as the Americans grew up with
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And as I get older, I definitely definitely do not have such an idealistic point of viewanymore Shelley I agree, let me just spin the globe but let's see where we end up where am
I i'm back over here.
In China, but let's go over you know what actually i'm in Bangladesh actually that's whatmy finger is Bangladesh.
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You know, toward right right before the end of last year, you had Shay Casina get kickedout, booted by her people, right?
And it's supposed to be this student led group, right?
So it's organic and it's and it's grassroots.
It's the people rising up.
Not the case, I believe.
Now she's over in and India can't go anywhere.
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But now what the people in Bangladesh are seeing is this totalitarian.
There's an interesting issue with.
that people don't realize how important this is, but India, Bangladesh, Kashmir, andPakistan, that area is a hotbed of all kinds of things, very similar to the Middle East,
almost exactly the same reasons.
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Here's an interesting thing.
India outpopulates China now.
People think China has more people.
India now has more people than China does.
And India is really...
being very aggressive in developing technology and commerce.
India is really coming into her own, but that Bangladesh Kashmir region is still creatinga lot of tension between Pakistan just with Pakistan and India, but India and China.
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Absolutely.
China is very aggressive on the northern borders of India.
They just fought a very big battle about a year ago when China didn't do well.
Yeah, exactly.
India handled themselves extremely well in that battle and it was over the border thatChina shares with India.
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People need to pay attention to that region because that's going to become more and moreimportant economically and strategically as they continue to develop.
believe so.
You know, speaking of China and India, what about this BRICS?
B-R-I-C-S, stands for
What is Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa?
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And there's now 26 countries that have aligned with the BRICS.
What's the problem?
Not the problem.
The initiative of BRICS is to develop a currency to replace the US dollars, the WorldReserve currency.
And they're on the verge of doing that.
Their entire objective is to form an economic alliance that replaces the United States asthe dominant economic
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driver in the world.
And this is really being, mean, like a lot of a lot of those particular, you know, Brazil,Russia, China, South Africa don't necessarily care for America anyway.
But I think they got an accelerant when Biden administration came into office and startedusing sanctions as a way to cripple people.
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Sanctions can go either way.
And right now it is really not benefited us.
Kathy, no one can show me one single example where an economic sanction has had theintended purposes long term, short term, maybe.
Sanctions do not work long term.
Every country finds a way around that sanction and continues to do what they want to do.
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Let me give you a good example.
Joe Biden said at the beginning of the Russian Ukraine conflict, they were going to imposefinancial sanctions on Russia and cripple them and quote, bring them to their knees.
The Russian ruble today is stronger than it was at the beginning.
Those sanctions are a joke.
have not done anything to people to find ways to decouple themselves.
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That's exactly what's driving the bricks to find ways to get around the US dollar being areserve currency.
Now, Donald Trump actually spoke out specifically about this last week at his Mar-a-Lagopresser where he said, if you think I'm going to sit back
I'm paraphrasing, but he said, if you think I'm going to sit back while you brigs find analternative to the U S dollar, you got another thing coming to you.
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why that's so important.
The U S dollar is a reserve currency.
That's the only thing that allows us to print $35 trillion worth of debt.
The moment that our dollars no longer reserve currency, our economy collapses much worsethan 1929.
It will be.
far worse than the economic collapse and the depression of 1929.
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And our dollar is unstable right now.
We're hanging by a thread because Russia and China have figured out that they can survive.
Not just survive, but they now trading oil in the Middle East with the BRIC currencies andthe Chinese yuan, not the US dollar.
That's the beginning.
That's the beginning of the end for the US dollar because that reserve currency status
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was always based on a treaty that Richard Nixon signed with Saudi Arabia in 1973.
And you saw Saudi Arabia has decided last year or maybe in 2023 when they say we were nolonger trade exclusively.
That's exactly right.
dollar.
The reserve currency status was tied to the value of the oil in the ground in SaudiArabia.
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And last year, Saudi Arabia said that is we're no longer honoring that treaty.
So our dollar was traded on gold.
Then it was traded on oil in the ground in Saudi Arabia.
Now it has nothing to back it up.
That makes our dollar incredibly so when you have a collection of countries, now 26countries, a part of the BRICS, their primary purpose is to decouple themselves from the
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need to trade in the US dollar.
So they're creating their own value.
And you know, people say, well that
that money, we just owe it to ourselves.
No, we don't.
We owe most of it to China.
We a lot of it to Russia.
We owe lot of it to Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is the biggest purchaser of American treasury bonds.
Hence the reason why I said China sneezes, Russia coughs, we catch the flu, right?
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We are highly, we are not an island unto ourselves.
do not, we're not in a little bubble.
And when our leaders say things, do things, implement things, it truly has an impact onthe rest of the world.
And the rest of the world is just kind of irritated, it seems, with America right now.
not just irritated.
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They're concerned.
They're scared.
Because they hold so much of America's debt.
And at $35 trillion, and we're continuing to spend like a drunken...
I'm sorry, that's not fair to drunken sailors.
We're spending money at a ferocious rate.
that we can't pay back and we owe that money to them and at some point they're going tosay, a minute, these treasury bonds, these T-bills, these assets that we purchased are
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stable are they?
So let me spin the globe.
Here we go.
Where am I going?
I'm going to hit right here.
I'm in the Middle East.
wow.
I'm in the Middle East, Israel, Lebanon, Iran.
The interesting thing right now, the big news is this peace treaty.
And it's going to take effect at 830 in the morning tomorrow, Jerusalem time, not Easterntime, Jerusalem time.
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And people think that this is the end.
It's over.
It is not.
I mean, like at this point, Israel is bombing the mess.
Yes.
And Yemen just launched two more intercontinental ballistic missiles at Israel thismorning.
but they're only going to release three female hostages tomorrow.
They're going to release four more female hostages a week from now.
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when you say they, you're talking about Hamas.
Hamas.
going to release 26 hostages over the next five weeks after that.
Maybe.
And in response, Israel is going to release 900 people that are in prison for murder.
Well, that doesn't seem very balanced.
it's as balanced.
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Israel is a very generous nation.
it doesn't seem balanced, but they value life more than death.
Hamas values death more than life.
but, but people think that this ceasefire is it's it.
It's not, it's actually designed to fail.
Because if Hamas doesn't release all the hostages, what happens?
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Israel is going to release all their prisoners.
What happens if, if Hamas doesn't release the hostages?
What happens if in phase two?
They failed to negotiate the next series of actions, is Israel further withdrawing fromGaza.
And then who's going to rebuild Gaza?
There's so many things.
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And who's going to own Gaza?
it going to, is going back to the Palestinians?
Well, mean, the Palestinian authority is saying they're ready to step in.
I don't think so.
But that's like saying, well, we're going to fix your cancer, but we're going to give youdementia instead.
Yeah, it's not a good idea.
because the Palestinian Authority are very crippled in their ability.
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I mean, they haven't even had an election since 2006, I believe, because the people wantHamas.
They want Hamas.
They want Hamas.
Kathy, this is this whole situation.
I think Donald Trump did a very good thing when he said there's all hell going to breakloose if there's not a signed treaty.
And that's the reason this has nothing to do with Biden.
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Nothing.
But what they've done is they've cobbled together something both sides can agree to fortomorrow, the day before.
But it is not comprehensive.
It is not effective and it's not going to last.
It's something that gets both sides off the hook so that they can move through thisdiplomatically.
I think people should be very concerned long term over how this plays out.
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I'm going to be paying very close attention to it.
Most, as you know, my expertise is Middle Eastern and geopolitical affairs.
Okay.
And the Middle East right now is a tender box.
Syria failed.
There's an awful lot going on with that.
Turkey.
And you have Yemen.
Yemen is really raising up.
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Yemen is the only one of the crown jewels that Iran has built.
They built Hezbollah.
They built Hamas.
They built Islamic Jihad.
And they built the force of the Houthis in Yemen.
Israel has not defeated the Houthis in Yemen.
And this peace treaty has nothing to do with Yemen.
So this war continues.
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So this is not like, OK, all is going well again.
What's the point of having this conversation?
Because we do need to remove the blinders.
And I know we have to pick our battles.
There's so much going on.
But my hope is that now that Donald Trump is back in office, we don't take that as a cueto put our feet up and and and have a sigh of relief.
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We must stay prayerful.
and prayerfully engage.
See y'all on the other side.
I am like literally jamming to this song.
I love it, love it.
I enjoy it.
Yes, hey listen, I have a really cool comment from Shelly.
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Shelly, you are awesome.
I would love for you to call in and to anyone else at 855-839-1210.
I'm just gonna kind of scroll back up here on YouTube where Shelly says, 13 countries tobecome partner countries.
These countries are Algeria, Belarus, I love.
Same, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Thailand, Turkey,Uganda, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam.
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And I was asking JR, has he heard about this?
And again, this is kind of in line with what we're talking about, that the rest of theworld is watching primarily the instability of the United States, the instability in how
we've interacted with Russia, China, and others.
And these smaller countries are saying, wait a minute, maybe we need to come together.
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know, nature abhors a vacuum and politics abhors a vacuum as well.
And when you have a vacuum of leadership, it gets filled.
There's two things that these small countries have learned in the last, I'd say, eight to10 years between Obama and then first rule of Trump and then the Biden administration.
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And that is there's two things that will give them a voice.
One is if they band together as a group, an alliance, a large group of small countries hasa much bigger voice than any one country by itself.
The second thing is nuclear weapons.
If you have nuclear weapons, people pay attention to you.
And if you can't get nuclear weapons, the only thing that you can go do is band togetherwith a group of like-minded other countries.
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that give you a bigger voice on the world stage that makes sure people pay attention toyou.
you hearing any concerns of this rush to nuclear armament?
Let me go back and say one thing that a lot of people paid a great deal of attention to.
In 1993, Clinton and Tony Blair in England signed a treaty with Ukraine.
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Guaranteeing to protect them against Russian aggression in exchange for giving up theirnuclear weapons.
they gave up their nuclear weapons.
gave up their nuclear weapons.
Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.
protection from NATO.
No, not from NATO, from the United States and Great Britain.
OK.
And we promised them that if Russia ever was aggressive or attacked them, we would protectthem.
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We haven't done that.
We've given them weapons.
We've given them a tremendous amount of money.
But we haven't protected them.
Ukraine is only standing right now as a result of America's influence.
have not fulfilled what we promised in that treaty.
Other countries are paid great.
Protect them.
Police on the ground.
That's what that treaty said we were going to go do and we have not done it.
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didn't we also make a promise to Russia that NATO would not move?
Absolutely.
Well, we say they wouldn't move.
Country into that areas onto their border and we're and we're and we're right exactly Sothis isn't just what I mean, you know, generally when we come to these discussions, we're
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like, okay black and white Yes or no up or down and it's and it's much more complicatedthan that, right?
America made some promises to Ukraine, but here's America Ukraine and Europe made somepromises to Russia Here's the consequences for that because Ukraine gave up their weapons
in exchange for supposed protection and that didn't happen
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Iran says, the only way we're going to be able to truly be a player is to have nuclearweapons.
Pakistan, the only reason we're going to be able to be paid attention to is nuclearweapons.
Even Saudi Arabia is now discussing beginning a nuclear program.
A lot of countries out there have taken a lesson from this situation between Russia wecannot trust America to create stability.
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can't trust a treaty.
I mean, here's the reality.
There are some in America and in my own movement who just want to, you know, let's justfocus on what's on the inside of our four borders.
You can't live that way because we create a vacuum in the world.
Someone is going to rise up and say, I want to take over the world.
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America has...
Someone has to be there if it's not us.
It's gonna be China.
It's gonna be Russia.
It's gonna be somebody We're getting ready to leave.
I think this is it right hurt guys.
Thank you so much for listening Do you have a second you will give you the last minute?
Thank you for having me on and I hope that some of the things that we've talked about havebeen a value and I want to Tell everybody pay attention the world does affect your
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billfold and the world does affect your family
You have to look at it from the right way.
Absolutely, guys.
Thank you so much for listening to the Kathy Barnett Show.
Go find me out there on Twitter at Kathy for Truth or on my website at KathyBarnett.com.
Blessings!
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