February 8, 2025 • 41 mins
Summary
In this episode of the Kathy Barnette Show, Kathy discusses the significant political shifts following Donald Trump's return to office. She emphasizes the awakening of the American public post-2020 and critiques the traditional party divide as a distraction. The conversation covers Trump's executive actions, the importance of common sense in governance, and the current political climate, particularly in relation to the California fires and immigration issues. Kathy encourages listeners to remain engaged and hopeful for the future of the nation.
Takeaways
Kathy believes the events of 2020 awakened the American public.
The divide between Democrats and Republicans is a distraction.
Trump's first week in office has been marked by significant executive actions.
Common sense governance is being restored under Trump.
Political sentiment is shifting, making it unpopular to be a Democrat.
California's water management policies are dysfunctional and contribute to wildfires.
The prioritization of political correctness over effective governance is problematic.
Hope and engagement are crucial for the future of the nation.
Kathy emphasizes the importance of community and activism.
The show aims to equip listeners for political engagement.
Chapters
00:00 Awakening from the Slumber of 2020
04:15 Trump's First Week: A New Direction
11:32 Common Sense Returns to Governance
18:31 The Shift in Political Sentiment
27:02 California Fires: A Case Study in Governance
39:30 Hope and Engagement for the Future
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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I'm just bringing some energy.
Wake up.
Let's get it going.
I love-
love that bridge so when we come back Kirk make sure we're right there at that bridge partof this of the song yeah absolutely hello Pennsylvania Delaware New Jersey Maryland you're
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listening in on the number one talk radio station in Philadelphia what I love it this isyour girl Kathy Barnett you're listening to the Kathy Barnett show
Wow, we have a lot to get through and this show.
So let's go ahead and get started.
mean, Donald Trump has had a week his first week back on the job.
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Praise the Lord.
You know, I was thinking as I was driving in, like none of us with any ounce of commonsense and who have not been morally compromised.
None of us like what happened in 2020.
But I tell you, had 2020 not
Happen we would still be sleepwalking and the plans these people whoever these are I'mthrowing up my little air quotes right now if you're watching me on Live right now on
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YouTube.
You can see my little air quotes these people We will still be sleepwalking but theyjarred us out of our slumber They woke us up and this isn't about party lines.
It's not about just Democrats
or and Republicans are good.
No, it is what I learned over these past four years of running my own campaign, walkingalongside the Baik Ramaswami, walking behind the curtains of some of the most powerful
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places is that, you know, the divide Democrat, Republican, it is all a mirage.
It is a distraction.
Yes, I keep it simple and I say Democrats, Republicans, because that's how most of usthink.
But
You know, this battle we're fighting, it's not Democrat versus Republican, blue shirtsversus red shirt, the jackass versus us over here on the Republican side.
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No, the elephant.
No, it is.
It's like a cabal of them versus us.
Those who have versus those who are trying to come up.
Right.
It is really wild, really crazy.
But I was thinking as I was driving in this morning that
Had it not been for 2020, had these people not done what they did, we would still beasleep.
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And I think now Donald Trump coming back in office, we all are awake.
We all are now aware of what is going on.
And you see that in this first week of Donald Trump being back in office.
have Pete Hessek has been confirmed.
Several others have been confirmed, but that was perhaps
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the most precarious confirmation.
Donald Trump just came in and he removed the security detail, U.S.
Secret Service detail for Dr.
Fauci, Mike Pompey, John Bolton, Brian Hook, Dr.
Deborah Berg.
He's like, listen, I'm taking you off.
We're no longer going to pay for your security.
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He just came from North Carolina, did a presser.
in California.
He signed over 200 executive orders.
Pardon the 23 pro lifers who were just praying outside of an abortion clinic.
He pardoned them.
Pardon over 1500 J sixers and it just continues.
But I want to bring in my next guest, Joseph Hugh Meyer.
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Hey Joseph, how you doing?
Hey Cathy, how's it going?
going well.
Joseph is a global security expert specializing in analyzing
trans-regional threats in the Western Hemisphere.
You're now the executive director of the National Security Think Tank Center for a Secure,Free Society.
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Every time I speak to you, Joseph, you're either leaving the country or you're coming backfrom South America someplace.
So thank you so much for taking time to drop in.
Absolutely, it's pleasure.
Yeah, you know, one of those over 200 executive orders Donald Trump signed, many of themwas specifically targeted to securing our southern border.
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And one of his first official acts as president, he signed the executive order endingbirthright citizenship.
We know that that is being challenged right now, which is what he expected.
I think he wants to take this all the way to the Supreme Court.
But my question to you, so in his first week he ended birthright
citizenship or least did the executive order for it.
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He declared a national emergency on the southern border mass deportation over 538 peoplewere loaded up on a plane.
They showed and Caroline Levitt, the president's press secretary confirmed they areputting people on these military style airplane and getting them the heck.
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up out of here.
He declared the Mexican cartel a terrorist organization, ended catch and release.
Our military just landed on the southern border.
He's doing a lot.
But my question to you, Joseph, is, is it a little too, too little, too late?
Or is it just the right temperature right now?
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I mean, where do we stand?
What's your perspective?
Well, I mean, obviously, you know, this could have been done a while back if theadministration took these threats seriously.
So, you know, it's always one day too late.
But nonetheless, it's better late than never.
And I think that President Trump, the fact that he's doing this on day one, you know,really the first day of his administration, not only shows the priority that he's giving
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to the crisis at the southern border, the crisis of the cartels, and basically securingthe homeland, but it also shows kind of the mandate in which President Trump has been
elected and in which he's starting his administration.
I think he understands the American people voted for him in the large part because, notexclusively, but in large part because they're worried about the American sovereignty,
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about our territorial integrity, and they're worried about basically gangs, cartels, theterrorists, you know, attacking us here in the homeland.
And so I'm going to focus a little bit, Cathy, on the designation of the cartels asforeign terrorist organizations.
So that's a very, very important executive order.
I'd say honestly a decade in the making because he tried to do this in the firstadministration.
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was conversations about this even before President Trump won in 2016.
And it's been resisted for a long time by the intelligence community, by many academics.
And the fact that we were able to get this across the table, I think is very, very, verystrong.
And I'm going read one part of it, which is section 1A, which is the main part.
And it says international cartels constitute a national security threat.
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Beyond that posed by traditional organized crime, basically what that's saying is thatcartels don't actually function like cartels anymore.
They're not just doing drug trafficking and money laundering or weapons smuggling.
They're actually like soldiers on a battlefield.
They're being deployed to basically take over territory, to change the economy, to capturesovereign territory.
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And fundamentally, what they're designed to do is destabilize the countries in whichthey're operating.
And then the doctor's operating in the United States, operating all over the WesternHemisphere and even parts of Europe.
So the fact that he elevated this to the highest tier of national security is very, verystrong and very, very useful for tackling this problem.
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There's a couple of concepts that are mentioned inside the executive order.
The concept that know very well because I've dealt with them for many years, but I'venever seen them inside an executive order.
The first is this concept of crime terror convergence.
This is the idea that terrorist organizations and criminal organizations, namely cartels,are working in symbiotic manner, but not because they have the same objective at the end.
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they don't like, know, terrorist organizations, especially jihadists, mostly havepolitical objectives.
Criminal organizations, mainly cartels, mostly have monetary objectives.
So that doesn't necessarily have to align for them to work together because the way theywork together is through logistics.
The people that provide services to cartels, whether you're a truck driver, an accountant,an IT technician, are usually the same people that provide those same services to a
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terrorist organization.
And we've seen plenty of evidence of this over the years.
This was a hotly contested debate for many years in intelligence community.
We won the debate, and now it's in the executive order.
And the second is called...
complex adaptive systems.
This may sound very technical and wonky and it somewhat is.
It's actually a term that comes from science and math.
It's used in social system theory.
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But what it means and how it applies to this is it means that cartels no longer have thiskind of kingpin vertical command and control structure.
Back in the day when the DEA used to go after these drug cartels, they had what's calledthe kingpin strategy.
They would go after the main guy or the main group or the main family.
Right.
to dismantle them and have anything trickle down, the whole Chapo Guzman thing, right?
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That really comes from the Pablo Escobar era, main cartel.
But in the 21st century, these cartels have adapted.
We saw that with Chapo Guzman.
When we arrested Chapo Guzman multiple times, we extradited him to the US.
So the lower cartel didn't miss a beat.
They didn't make any, they didn't make one dollar less than what they were making with himas a leader.
So they no longer have a vertical structure.
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They have a horizontal structure.
of many, many, many micro trafficking and many car and many, many cells that work almostautonomously like franchises and they spread across territory.
So, the opposite at the system's concept really is meant to adapt that.
And that's all lumped under what we know as ACM warfare.
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Mexican cartels, the Trende Aragua, MS-13 are weapons of warfare against the UnitedStates.
And that's clearly articulated in this report.
I was very impressed.
and how President Trump designed this order and the fact that he got it through and signedit on the first day.
I love that, right?
But now, you know, we're getting ready to go to a break pretty soon.
So let me just get this question into you that when I was watching Donald Trump's presserin California and one of the, know, when he was sitting around the table with both
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Democrats and Republican legislators and he was talking about the wildfires and he keptpreferencing the his what he is going to do as
Common sense these are just common sense things that we should do if you care about yourpeople And I'm thinking the same thing with with what I just said the mass deportations
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securing the border stopping catch and release what you just meticulously explained to usabout why designating the Mexican cartel as terrorist organization why these things are so
important it just seems like common
sense.
Where was this six days ago?
Donald Trump's been in office, I guess six days now.
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So where was this common sense seven days ago?
Why is it common sense today, but it wasn't common sense seven days ago?
What switched?
Honestly, just President Trump's switch.
That's really the simple answer because these are arguments that we've been making foryears, almost more than a decade.
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You met a lot of resistance.
mean, like it's common sense.
But the thing about common sense is it isn't common until people understand it.
And one of the, I think, talents of President Trump is explaining this in a way so thatevery American person can see this.
And I agree with you, Joseph, but why was it, why wasn't it common sense?
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This seems like common sense to me that.
Because we've been watching this now for some time, know, specifically in the last fouryears of our nation being invaded, we would see these large caravans look like thousands
of people all at once coming into our country.
We're watching our little girls and boys being raped and murdered.
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Why wasn't it common sense to the people before?
And I guess more importantly, how do we make sure we never get back?
to the insanity of before?
No, well, I think it was common sense to the people.
As you were mentioning, think anyone that watched the caravan stuff, they're like, this isan invasion.
And I think that's why you won, because many people kind of understood that.
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It wasn't necessarily common sense for the US government.
And I think one of the reasons it wasn't common sense for the US government, because theUS government has this kind of issue with what I call groupthink, right?
Once one or two people inside the government that are high up put a specific position onthe table,
people for fear of not getting promoted or for fear of getting isolated or ostracized fromthis community, they just kind of go along to get along.
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And I think we had a lot of that.
I know we had a lot of that.
I we're having the debates.
We had a lot of people that agreed with us, but they didn't want to speak up because theywere scared because the big bosses didn't agree.
And so the thing about the intelligence community is that when you're in the community,you're actually supposed to challenge conventional thinking.
But they don't.
But they don't.
But they don't.
And they don't, mainly.
And I'm going to get to the core why I think that is.
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They don't for fear of not having the mobility to enhance their career.
They're more career minded first than country first.
And that's something that's been put into the culture of many government agencies.
And I think that that needs to change.
I love it.
Thank you so much.
I know we're getting ready to go to break right now.
Thank you so much, Joseph, for popping in.
I truly appreciate you and your sanity, your common sense to all of this.
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Absolutely, Kathy.
Always a pleasure.
Yes, absolutely.
We're going to break right now, right?
Yes, I know.
We got this, guys.
Listen, call me at 855-839-1210, 855-839-1210.
You can also find me on Twitter, or X, as it's now being called, at Kathy, the number fourtruth.
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I'll see y'all on the other side of the break.
A lot has happened.
Is my next guest on air?
Hello, Mr.
Penland, how are you?
I'm doing fine and yourself.
am doing well, sir.
Thank you so much being on air with me.
You guys should be familiar with Mr.
Joe Penland.
I've talked about him a number of times.
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I've had him on the show many times.
Joe is a businessman turned political activist, and he was the one who sponsored TuckerCarlson's tour traveling across the nation right before the election.
And I believe because I felt it.
That that tour something shifted inside of me and attending that tour I don't know it waslike a switch of hope turned back on.
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It didn't feel so daunting and dark and I believe that that tour, along with many otherthings was just pivotal and us winning and November, so I wanted you to come back on
today, Mr pendulum because.
I want, know, Donald Trump, I mean, he's been on a tear.
He's shutting down DEI offices, lights closed.
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And in fact, in the memo that he sent out to all of the heads of department, he says, sendthis letter.
And one of the line items was, don't even bother returning back to work.
Like, don't even bother, cancel all your meetings.
Don't even bother coming back to office anymore.
All of these DEI offices, we saw him.
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You know, putting illegals on military planes.
saw him pardoning over 1,500 January Sixers, over 23 pro-lifers.
He removed the security detail from Dr.
Fauci and several others.
I don't know, this week, it went by in a flash, but it seems momentous.
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Help us gain perspective of what it is we're watching right now.
Well, we're watching a man that is doing what he said he would do.
He promised the American people a whole list of things and you covered a lot of them rightthere.
And I made a statement yesterday, this man has more grit than anybody I know for sure.
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I can't speak for you, but he's, he has more grit than anybody I've ever come across.
You know, they've tried to kill him.
Somebody did.
They've tried to ruin his life in the courts and so forth.
They've done everything they can do to this man and he does not need the headache.
He certainly don't need the money.
He had a pretty comfortable life and for him to come back and take this country back towhere it needs to go just shows how much he loves this country.
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And I really believe the short time I've been able to visit with the president, he'sserious about his promises.
He's going to make good on his promises.
This country will be better in four years.
It's better today than it was
for the past four years.
But when you get by these four years right here, it's going to be, think, I think that youwill, you will be able to see such a change.
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America will see such a change.
And I'm very hopeful when the midterm comes around, we hold the house in the Senatebecause he's done what he said he would do.
You know, I'm so glad you said that because most people say, you know, in four years andfour years, no, we really only have two years.
to for Donald Trump to hit the ground.
mean, perhaps that's the thing that is motivating him at such wreck at breakneck speed todo the to to make good on the promises that he said he would because we really don't have
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four years to get this right.
We have two years to make such an impact that the American people will not only allow uson the Republican side to keep the House and the Senate, but to win, but to take over
additional seats.
Right.
That's right.
And you see it's razor thin now.
You see what happened here in this last confirmation.
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It was 50-50.
The vice president had to break the tie.
So even though we have 53 senators on our side, three did not vote with the president onthat.
So it's razor thin.
He's got to get it done.
But I'm hopeful, Kathy, and I really believe in my heart that when two years rolls around,you're going to see that margin increase because people are going to know
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that we have made a difference in a positive way for 340 million Americans, not just theelite.
Yeah, you know what?
I I've never, I was telling my husband last night, I've never seen a time when it isreally unpopular to be a Democrat right now.
People are, it's very unpopular.
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I'm looking at black people on the South side of Chicago take their ridiculous MayorJohnson to task right now.
in trying to secure and defend illegals over their residents.
And I saw the same thing when Donald Trump just had a presser yesterday in California, andthere were many of those very well-to-do residents from the Palisade area who was there
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who were sounding very conservative all of a sudden.
One of them even saying, so we can't get back into our homes until 18 months from now.
We've lost everything.
But miraculously, the governor, Gavin Newsom and the Democrat party came together veryquickly to come up with $50 million to fight Donald Trump on deporting illegals.
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What do you think about that?
Well, you know, the Democrats, you know, they're, they're not going to hide how they are.
You know, it is what it is.
America now is really seeing it firsthand in real time, exactly what the Democrats are upto.
You know, there's no two ways about it.
You look at states that get devastated by hurricanes or tornadoes and they're stillsuffering.
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And then you get a state that has just as big a problem and people come together overthere.
But if we're going to get together and keep people that have broke the law, come into thiscountry smuggling
people in the smuggling children, smuggling drugs, killing people.
If we want that kind of people on our street, something's wrong.
needs to go get tested for something else.
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It's a mind virus.
you know, mean, Donald Trump all throughout his time yesterday at that California presser,he kept saying, common sense is back.
Common sense is back.
And I just started thinking about it like...
We're now six days into his second term.
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Why didn't we have this level of common sense just seven days ago?
Why is it now?
Like, for example, at his inauguration, one of the loudest applause he received was whenhe said, there are only two genders.
Did we not know that seven days ago?
Did we not know that it was only two genders?
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Why is it now?
that we realize, yeah, there's not 87 different genders.
There's only two and everything else is a mental health crisis.
Well, down here in Texas, we call it backbone.
You have to have a strong backbone to say a lot of times to speak the truth.
A lot of people skirt around like they can't tell you what the definition of a woman isreally is and so forth.
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So, you know, now we have a plain spoken man.
He's a little, I'd say, unconventional in the way he's going to govern.
But you know what?
I'd rather have that over what we've had for four years.
see what we are.
What four years you see how many millions of people have come into this country, how manybillions of dollars that has cost us.
I mean lives, it's cost us what the fentanyl has done.
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The cost of fuel, the economy where it's at, inflation going to a 40 year high.
You just, just, I mean, you need more, you need a whole blackboard.
You can't write this on one sheet of paper.
It's really been bad.
I think there's going to be a tremendous amount of good come out of these four years.
And I appreciate what you said about the Tucker tour because I, you know, I visited withyou quite a bit before that and you did have a spark in your eye that night.
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think you, I think you caught on fire a little bit that night.
did.
It felt ominous prior.
to that event and then I walked into that event and people using the name of Jesus withoutqualifying it, people just being happy and not depressed.
And I think we needed that because I've been in this fight for well over four years.
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Like actively I've been in this fight since 2020.
and all that we saw there, I mean, just beating the ground.
I think many of us, now you have a lot of people who are just now waking up and seeing thelight.
They have a lot of energy and that's great.
But many of us who have kept the hope alive that Donald Trump could get back in officeagain, we were exhausted right before Tucker Carlson's tour came along.
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I know for me at least, I was just exhausted.
Like I'm over this already.
And then you walk into that and I think,
You know, and that is really informed my decisions even after that night of just howimportant hope is.
We have to be around people who think like us.
We have to be rejuvenated when you're out here in the battle on the front lines.
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Well, you're right.
And, know, I think about Ronald Reagan, how great a president Ronald Reagan was and somuch that he had to confront.
Donald Trump has the same.
Social Security is running out.
Reagan had to confront that.
know, there's a lot of things if you look at the similarities with Reagan did and what hadto do and what Trump's going to have to do.
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You know, Reagan had a famous quote.
He said, we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation goneunder.
And you know, I think about that quote a lot.
That is so true.
Guys, listen, you need to find out who Mr.
Joe Penland is.
You can go to joefromtexas.com.
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Did I get that right?
joefromtexas.com?
Yes, ma'am.
Yeah, you can also text.
We set up a text for you, Joe.
You guys can text Joe, J-O-E, at 646-820-8714.
646-820-8714.
He has a contract.
from the American people that he will be hand delivering to the president.
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Just again, we are all in this together.
Not that COVID-19 all in this together, but right now all in this together.
Thank you, Mr.
Penland.
Thank you, Kathy.
Have a great day.
Yes, blessings.
OK, guys, listen, call me 855-839-1210, 855-839-1210.
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on Amazon during the all the COVID hype.
But nonetheless, I wanted to bring in my next guest, Kaizen.
I see you do.
Did I get that right, Kaizen?
Close enough.
It's a hard one.
I'm so sorry.
So sorry.
Say your name for me, please.
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Kaizen Asiyadu.
Asiyadu.
Thank you so much, Kaizen.
Kaizen, saw you.
You came, you popped up on my screen.
I mean this gorgeous black man, Harvard educated, being so smart about a variety ofissues.
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And then the California fires broke out and you again, so sensical, so logical and withoutall of the emotions.
even though you were one of the people who had to flee your homes because of thedevastating fires.
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And so I wanted to bring you on because again, I go to Gavin Newsom's page and he says,what Donald Trump is saying is a lie.
I go to Donald Trump's page and Donald Trump is saying, no, Newsom is wrong.
I'm right.
It's so much disinformation out there.
And I found you to be just a breath of fresh air in bringing logic.
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and facts, receipts as they say, to the conversation.
So I wanted to bring you on.
Donald Trump was out there in your neck of the woods yesterday doing a presser, flankedwith Democrats and Republicans on both sides of him.
he was, I mean, he was not there to play around.
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He was very to the point on many issues which were appreciated.
But one of them that stands out to me,
is the water situation.
have Gavin Newsom saying, no, there is no water coming down from Canada and we redirectedit into the Pacific Ocean.
That's not true.
But Donald Trump is saying, no, millions of gallons of water has been redirected.
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And that is the reason that's one of the many reasons why California just was justengulfed in flames in the way that it was.
Help us understand what's really going on.
Yeah.
So I think to help your viewers understand why there's a gap here, I think it's importantto distinguish between being directionally correct and technically correct.
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So I think Trump is directionally correct, but he's technically accurate on some of thethings.
And Gavin Newsom is directionally incorrect, but technically accurate on things.
So it's like the difference between like the major and the minor details where DonaldTrump is majorly correct is
California does have a water policy that is dysfunctional.
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And it's just a fact that we have dumped millions of gallons of water into the PacificOcean to protect endangered species of fish called the Delta Smelt.
And that water has a financial value.
That's water that we can use for other purposes.
And it's water that we chose to redirect because of a fish.
Now, is it technically true that we needed that water to fight these specific fires?
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No, we did have water in some of the reservoirs that were used for the fires.
However, what Trump is speaking to is a general worldview of dysfunctional management andthe wrong priorities that's getting reflected in many ways across the board, from the LA
Fire Department being understaffed and under budget to the LA Fire Department focused onDEI instead of merit to
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the fact that we're not clearing out our forests of deadwood.
And as a result, the forests are more flammable than they need to.
So Trump is pointing to a bigger trend.
And even if the exact things he's pointing to aren't exactly what happened in this case, Ithink he's pointing out the macro issue.
Whereas Gavin Newsom, I think he's correct that, yeah, you know, the water that we putinto the Pacific Ocean to protect this fish, it's called the Delta smelt, the water that
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we put in the Pacific Ocean to protect this fish was not water that we needed for thesefires.
However, the same kind of thinking, like we need to prioritize fish over people, and weneed to prioritize DEI over merit, and we need to prioritize allowing homeless people to
live on the street rather than enforcing law and order.
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All of these things contribute to a circumstance where not only are there more fires thanthere need to be, and by the way, some of the fires were probably arson.
14,000 fires are started by homeless people every year.
I that in one of your videos that over 13,000 fires are started every single year inCalifornia by homeless people.
And then when you have an explosion of homelessness, it stands to reason that there willbe an upward trajectory on the number of wildfires that are started by these homeless
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people.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'll give you an example of like an individual instance that shows what Trump ispointing out, which is a dysfunctional worldview, a dysfunctional far leftist government.
Let's just call it what it is.
So there was a man who was near the Kenneth fire in LA.
So that's one of the big fires that broke out during the Palisades fire.
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This guy was riding around on a bike with a yellow blowtorch coming from that fire.
The citizen saw him.
And they were like, why is this guy riding on a blowtorch during a fire?
Did this guy start a fire?
The citizens confronted him in the stage of citizens arrest, which is already dangerous,right?
Like we don't want to have a society where citizens need to be arresting individuals, butthey did that.
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Fortunately, no one was hurt.
The police, LA police department arrests him.
Turns out that this guy is an illegal immigrant.
He's here in the country illegally.
A year ago, he was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon.
He was not deported.
So this guy is riding around the streets of LA, this time with the blowtorch.
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He's not deported.
They can't deport him, right?
So they decide, okay, we actually can't arrest him because we don't have probable causedespite the fact that he had a blowtorch.
Then they give him to ICE and ICE can't deport him because California has sanctuary statelaws protecting illegal immigrants from getting deported even though he committed a crime.
So it's like, even though it's very probable, no, they did not see the fire leave thetorch, the blow torch, but we're not allowed to connect any dots when it's not in favor of
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this dysfunctional worldview.
Exactly.
So it's like.
Okay, I mean, I guess you didn't see him lighting the fire.
So maybe you don't have probable cause.
Maybe he just walking around with a blow torch just because it's hot.
Yeah, just because during fires, right?
I know, right?
Oh, okay.
You know, it's just very dysfunctional.
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but you know what?
Let me go back to what you were saying earlier, because to Donald Trump's point, when youmake this distinction between directionally correct versus technically
Correct.
mean, is it technically correct that had the water millions of gallons not been divertedinto the Pacific Ocean, that that water would have been available to keep the ground and
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the trees moist and tumbleweeds may not have been so dry, the ground may not have been sodry being the, you know, the tinder that just kept this fire going so easily.
Yep, based on my research, that's not correct because a lot of the water would have beenused for places outside of LA, not in LA specifically.
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So it's not like that water would have gone through the LA forest and the forest wouldhave been more moist so they wouldn't have burned.
some of the farmland, some of the farmland that's north of us, where they are constantlystruggling, it's like they're in a drought even when there's not a drought.
Right.
Yeah, they would have been less affected.
Yeah, okay.
So from a farming perspective, i.e.
economy, but what about
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One of the reservoirs were or was empty at the time of these fires.
Is that true?
Exactly.
That is true.
So the Santa Ines Reservoir, which is the closest reservoir for Pacific Palisades.
So it's there.
It's the first reservoir in state of America.
And it was empty water and it was empty.
Yeah.
And it was empty for a long time, months, maybe even like a year.
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Well, where do they get the water to fill that up?
So that's a great question that I don't know the answer to.
Probably from the water that was redirected maybe?
Yeah, maybe, but I don't think the issue is that the reservoir wasn't filled because therewasn't enough water.
The reservoir wasn't filled because they were doing maintenance on the reservoir, but theytook too long to do maintenance on the reservoir, right?
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Like, when you know there's high risk of fire, you shouldn't have a reservoir that is inthe area with the highest risk of fire.
be empty for months or even a year on end.
So again, it's like, how does that happen?
Right?
Like it's easy for him to gather new some to say, Oh, well, we use other reservoirs.
Well, clearly the reservoir near Pacific policies was built there because it's the mosteffective place to have a reservoir for Pacific policies.
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And what about the water pressure?
We're using something else.
And what about the of water pressure?
Exactly.
So, you know, there been whistleblowers.
Yeah, I'm sorry, Kaiser.
I want to extend this a little bit longer.
Go ahead and explain the lack of water pressure.
Yeah.
So the lack of water pressure, I mean, just to think of it simply, the further away areservoir is from the place that it's serving, the more water pressure becomes an issue.
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And because that particular reservoir had no water, they had to go even farther to accessthe water, which reduces the water pressure where they needed it the most.
Exactly.
So it's unclear how much it affected things, but it absolutely affects things because ifit didn't matter, then we wouldn't have a reservoir there.
But what did matter to them was having three gay, three lesbian at the head of the L.A.
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Fire Department.
I saw one of your videos where you were like, that is, know, if, if, you know, if thelesbian community is less than one percent of L.A.
County.
It's a over representation of lesbians at the LA Fire Department that seemed to be abigger priority for them.
Yeah, so people say, well, what's the issue?
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You know, maybe lesbians can do the job just as well.
Sure, but look at it from a numbers perspective.
Only 3 % of the LA Fire Department is women to begin with, and then only a smallpercentage of those women are going to be lesbian.
So if three of the top people at LA Fire Department are all lesbian women, then.
there's probably something in the policy that's over promoting lesbians rather thanfocusing on merit.
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So it's like all across the board, can see dysfunctional logic leading to suboptimaloutcomes.
And it's all connected.
It's all connected.
You can't just focus on one part of the narrative and then exclude the others.
We have to look.
There is something in the water, not in California, because they don't have any, butthere's something about this mind.
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but this woke mind virus.
don't know if there's a better name for it, but there is something that is causing peopleto think irrational or to lean towards that, which is more irrational than not.
Yeah.
And people are just buying it.
Right.
So Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass, they'll redirect attention away from them and they'll say,it's just climate change.
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When
The climate is changing.
That's something we need to adapt to.
Climate has always been changing.
And the response that they have is just inadequate, regardless of what the conditions are.
So we need to stop buying these narratives from politicians and then complaining, why arepoliticians so bad?
Because we allow them to give us bad excuses and then we accept them.
And then when we see our whole city burning, somehow we still accept their excuses.
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Exactly.
I think Gavin Newsom, you know, look, I think
governing a state is really difficult.
Like I get that it's a really hard job.
But for me, he would get a lot more credence if he literally just owned it and said, youknow what?
There are things I could have done better here and I'm sorry.
I'm to doing better.
But instead he's constantly fighting with Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
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It's like those guys are trying to protect the illegals.
They found a way to come up with 50 million dollars, but their people can't get back intheir homes.
Kaizen.
Thank you so much for coming on.
You guys can follow Kaizen on Twitter.
Where can they find you on Twitter Kaizen?
It's that Kaizen.
So T H A T S K A I Z E N.
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Thank you so much Kaizen.
Guys, we're getting ready to go on break.
When I come back.
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Hope is so important.
You got to keep it up.
And after this first week of Donald Trump, mean, wow, what an amazing week.
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What can we expect next week?
mean, with a week like this, what can we expect next week?
By the grace of God, all good.
Literally, I wake up praying for the president, JD Vance and many of our leaders.
I go to bed and I wake up thinking about them, praying for them.
go to bed thinking about them, praying for them.
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mean, Donald Trump has had a week his first week back on the job.
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Praise the Lord.
You know, I was thinking as I was driving in, like none of us with any ounce of commonsense and who have not been morally compromised.
None of us like what happened in 2020.
But I tell you, had 2020 not
Happen we would still be sleepwalking and the plans these people whoever these are I'mthrowing up my little air quotes right now if you're watching me on Live right now on
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YouTube.
You can see my little air quotes these people We will still be sleepwalking but theyjarred us out of our slumber They woke us up and this isn't about party lines.
It's not about just Democrats
or and Republicans are good.
No, it is what I learned over these past four years of running my own campaign, walkingalongside the Baik Ramaswami, walking behind the curtains of some of the most powerful
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places is that, you know, the divide Democrat, Republican, it is all a mirage.
It is a distraction.
Yes, I keep it simple and I say Democrats, Republicans, because that's how most of usthink.
But
You know, this battle we're fighting, it's not Democrat versus Republican, blue shirtsversus red shirt, the jackass versus us over here on the Republican side.
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No, the elephant.
No, it is.
It's like a cabal of them versus us.
Those who have versus those who are trying to come up.
Right.
It is really wild, really crazy.
But I was thinking as I was driving in this morning that
Had it not been for 2020, had these people not done what they did, we would still beasleep.
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And I think now Donald Trump coming back in office, we all are awake.
We all are now aware of what is going on.
And you see that in this first week of Donald Trump being back in office.
have Pete Hessek has been confirmed.
Several others have been confirmed, but that was perhaps
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the most precarious confirmation.
Donald Trump just came in and he removed the security detail, U.S.
Secret Service detail for Dr.
Fauci, Mike Pompey, John Bolton, Brian Hook, Dr.
Deborah Berg.
He's like, listen, I'm taking you off.
We're no longer going to pay for your security.
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He just came from North Carolina, did a presser.
in California.
He signed over 200 executive orders.
Pardon the 23 pro lifers who were just praying outside of an abortion clinic.
He pardoned them.
Pardon over 1500 J sixers and it just continues.
But I want to bring in my next guest, Joseph Hugh Meyer.
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Hey Joseph, how you doing?
Hey Cathy, how's it going?
going well.
Joseph is a global security expert specializing in analyzing
trans-regional threats in the Western Hemisphere.
You're now the executive director of the National Security Think Tank Center for a Secure,Free Society.
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Every time I speak to you, Joseph, you're either leaving the country or you're coming backfrom South America someplace.
So thank you so much for taking time to drop in.
Absolutely, it's pleasure.
Yeah, you know, one of those over 200 executive orders Donald Trump signed, many of themwas specifically targeted to securing our southern border.
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And one of his first official acts as president, he signed the executive order endingbirthright citizenship.
We know that that is being challenged right now, which is what he expected.
I think he wants to take this all the way to the Supreme Court.
But my question to you, so in his first week he ended birthright
citizenship or least did the executive order for it.
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He declared a national emergency on the southern border mass deportation over 538 peoplewere loaded up on a plane.
They showed and Caroline Levitt, the president's press secretary confirmed they areputting people on these military style airplane and getting them the heck.
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up out of here.
He declared the Mexican cartel a terrorist organization, ended catch and release.
Our military just landed on the southern border.
He's doing a lot.
But my question to you, Joseph, is, is it a little too, too little, too late?
Or is it just the right temperature right now?
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I mean, where do we stand?
What's your perspective?
Well, I mean, obviously, you know, this could have been done a while back if theadministration took these threats seriously.
So, you know, it's always one day too late.
But nonetheless, it's better late than never.
And I think that President Trump, the fact that he's doing this on day one, you know,really the first day of his administration, not only shows the priority that he's giving
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to the crisis at the southern border, the crisis of the cartels, and basically securingthe homeland, but it also shows kind of the mandate in which President Trump has been
elected and in which he's starting his administration.
I think he understands the American people voted for him in the large part because, notexclusively, but in large part because they're worried about the American sovereignty,
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about our territorial integrity, and they're worried about basically gangs, cartels, theterrorists, you know, attacking us here in the homeland.
And so I'm going to focus a little bit, Cathy, on the designation of the cartels asforeign terrorist organizations.
So that's a very, very important executive order.
I'd say honestly a decade in the making because he tried to do this in the firstadministration.
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was conversations about this even before President Trump won in 2016.
And it's been resisted for a long time by the intelligence community, by many academics.
And the fact that we were able to get this across the table, I think is very, very, verystrong.
And I'm going read one part of it, which is section 1A, which is the main part.
And it says international cartels constitute a national security threat.
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Beyond that posed by traditional organized crime, basically what that's saying is thatcartels don't actually function like cartels anymore.
They're not just doing drug trafficking and money laundering or weapons smuggling.
They're actually like soldiers on a battlefield.
They're being deployed to basically take over territory, to change the economy, to capturesovereign territory.
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And fundamentally, what they're designed to do is destabilize the countries in whichthey're operating.
And then the doctor's operating in the United States, operating all over the WesternHemisphere and even parts of Europe.
So the fact that he elevated this to the highest tier of national security is very, verystrong and very, very useful for tackling this problem.
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There's a couple of concepts that are mentioned inside the executive order.
The concept that know very well because I've dealt with them for many years, but I'venever seen them inside an executive order.
The first is this concept of crime terror convergence.
This is the idea that terrorist organizations and criminal organizations, namely cartels,are working in symbiotic manner, but not because they have the same objective at the end.
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they don't like, know, terrorist organizations, especially jihadists, mostly havepolitical objectives.
Criminal organizations, mainly cartels, mostly have monetary objectives.
So that doesn't necessarily have to align for them to work together because the way theywork together is through logistics.
The people that provide services to cartels, whether you're a truck driver, an accountant,an IT technician, are usually the same people that provide those same services to a
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terrorist organization.
And we've seen plenty of evidence of this over the years.
This was a hotly contested debate for many years in intelligence community.
We won the debate, and now it's in the executive order.
And the second is called...
complex adaptive systems.
This may sound very technical and wonky and it somewhat is.
It's actually a term that comes from science and math.
It's used in social system theory.
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But what it means and how it applies to this is it means that cartels no longer have thiskind of kingpin vertical command and control structure.
Back in the day when the DEA used to go after these drug cartels, they had what's calledthe kingpin strategy.
They would go after the main guy or the main group or the main family.
Right.
to dismantle them and have anything trickle down, the whole Chapo Guzman thing, right?
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That really comes from the Pablo Escobar era, main cartel.
But in the 21st century, these cartels have adapted.
We saw that with Chapo Guzman.
When we arrested Chapo Guzman multiple times, we extradited him to the US.
So the lower cartel didn't miss a beat.
They didn't make any, they didn't make one dollar less than what they were making with himas a leader.
So they no longer have a vertical structure.
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They have a horizontal structure.
of many, many, many micro trafficking and many car and many, many cells that work almostautonomously like franchises and they spread across territory.
So, the opposite at the system's concept really is meant to adapt that.
And that's all lumped under what we know as ACM warfare.
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Mexican cartels, the Trende Aragua, MS-13 are weapons of warfare against the UnitedStates.
And that's clearly articulated in this report.
I was very impressed.
and how President Trump designed this order and the fact that he got it through and signedit on the first day.
I love that, right?
But now, you know, we're getting ready to go to a break pretty soon.
So let me just get this question into you that when I was watching Donald Trump's presserin California and one of the, know, when he was sitting around the table with both
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Democrats and Republican legislators and he was talking about the wildfires and he keptpreferencing the his what he is going to do as
Common sense these are just common sense things that we should do if you care about yourpeople And I'm thinking the same thing with with what I just said the mass deportations
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securing the border stopping catch and release what you just meticulously explained to usabout why designating the Mexican cartel as terrorist organization why these things are so
important it just seems like common
sense.
Where was this six days ago?
Donald Trump's been in office, I guess six days now.
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So where was this common sense seven days ago?
Why is it common sense today, but it wasn't common sense seven days ago?
What switched?
Honestly, just President Trump's switch.
That's really the simple answer because these are arguments that we've been making foryears, almost more than a decade.
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You met a lot of resistance.
mean, like it's common sense.
But the thing about common sense is it isn't common until people understand it.
And one of the, I think, talents of President Trump is explaining this in a way so thatevery American person can see this.
And I agree with you, Joseph, but why was it, why wasn't it common sense?
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This seems like common sense to me that.
Because we've been watching this now for some time, know, specifically in the last fouryears of our nation being invaded, we would see these large caravans look like thousands
of people all at once coming into our country.
We're watching our little girls and boys being raped and murdered.
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Why wasn't it common sense to the people before?
And I guess more importantly, how do we make sure we never get back?
to the insanity of before?
No, well, I think it was common sense to the people.
As you were mentioning, think anyone that watched the caravan stuff, they're like, this isan invasion.
And I think that's why you won, because many people kind of understood that.
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It wasn't necessarily common sense for the US government.
And I think one of the reasons it wasn't common sense for the US government, because theUS government has this kind of issue with what I call groupthink, right?
Once one or two people inside the government that are high up put a specific position onthe table,
people for fear of not getting promoted or for fear of getting isolated or ostracized fromthis community, they just kind of go along to get along.
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And I think we had a lot of that.
I know we had a lot of that.
I we're having the debates.
We had a lot of people that agreed with us, but they didn't want to speak up because theywere scared because the big bosses didn't agree.
And so the thing about the intelligence community is that when you're in the community,you're actually supposed to challenge conventional thinking.
But they don't.
But they don't.
But they don't.
And they don't, mainly.
And I'm going to get to the core why I think that is.
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They don't for fear of not having the mobility to enhance their career.
They're more career minded first than country first.
And that's something that's been put into the culture of many government agencies.
And I think that that needs to change.
I love it.
Thank you so much.
I know we're getting ready to go to break right now.
Thank you so much, Joseph, for popping in.
I truly appreciate you and your sanity, your common sense to all of this.
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Absolutely, Kathy.
Always a pleasure.
Yes, absolutely.
We're going to break right now, right?
Yes, I know.
We got this, guys.
Listen, call me at 855-839-1210, 855-839-1210.
You can also find me on Twitter, or X, as it's now being called, at Kathy, the number fourtruth.
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I'll see y'all on the other side of the break.
A lot has happened.
Is my next guest on air?
Hello, Mr.
Penland, how are you?
I'm doing fine and yourself.
am doing well, sir.
Thank you so much being on air with me.
You guys should be familiar with Mr.
Joe Penland.
I've talked about him a number of times.
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I've had him on the show many times.
Joe is a businessman turned political activist, and he was the one who sponsored TuckerCarlson's tour traveling across the nation right before the election.
And I believe because I felt it.
That that tour something shifted inside of me and attending that tour I don't know it waslike a switch of hope turned back on.
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It didn't feel so daunting and dark and I believe that that tour, along with many otherthings was just pivotal and us winning and November, so I wanted you to come back on
today, Mr pendulum because.
I want, know, Donald Trump, I mean, he's been on a tear.
He's shutting down DEI offices, lights closed.
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And in fact, in the memo that he sent out to all of the heads of department, he says, sendthis letter.
And one of the line items was, don't even bother returning back to work.
Like, don't even bother, cancel all your meetings.
Don't even bother coming back to office anymore.
All of these DEI offices, we saw him.
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You know, putting illegals on military planes.
saw him pardoning over 1,500 January Sixers, over 23 pro-lifers.
He removed the security detail from Dr.
Fauci and several others.
I don't know, this week, it went by in a flash, but it seems momentous.
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Help us gain perspective of what it is we're watching right now.
Well, we're watching a man that is doing what he said he would do.
He promised the American people a whole list of things and you covered a lot of them rightthere.
And I made a statement yesterday, this man has more grit than anybody I know for sure.
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I can't speak for you, but he's, he has more grit than anybody I've ever come across.
You know, they've tried to kill him.
Somebody did.
They've tried to ruin his life in the courts and so forth.
They've done everything they can do to this man and he does not need the headache.
He certainly don't need the money.
He had a pretty comfortable life and for him to come back and take this country back towhere it needs to go just shows how much he loves this country.
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And I really believe the short time I've been able to visit with the president, he'sserious about his promises.
He's going to make good on his promises.
This country will be better in four years.
It's better today than it was
for the past four years.
But when you get by these four years right here, it's going to be, think, I think that youwill, you will be able to see such a change.
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America will see such a change.
And I'm very hopeful when the midterm comes around, we hold the house in the Senatebecause he's done what he said he would do.
You know, I'm so glad you said that because most people say, you know, in four years andfour years, no, we really only have two years.
to for Donald Trump to hit the ground.
mean, perhaps that's the thing that is motivating him at such wreck at breakneck speed todo the to to make good on the promises that he said he would because we really don't have
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four years to get this right.
We have two years to make such an impact that the American people will not only allow uson the Republican side to keep the House and the Senate, but to win, but to take over
additional seats.
Right.
That's right.
And you see it's razor thin now.
You see what happened here in this last confirmation.
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It was 50-50.
The vice president had to break the tie.
So even though we have 53 senators on our side, three did not vote with the president onthat.
So it's razor thin.
He's got to get it done.
But I'm hopeful, Kathy, and I really believe in my heart that when two years rolls around,you're going to see that margin increase because people are going to know
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that we have made a difference in a positive way for 340 million Americans, not just theelite.
Yeah, you know what?
I I've never, I was telling my husband last night, I've never seen a time when it isreally unpopular to be a Democrat right now.
People are, it's very unpopular.
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I'm looking at black people on the South side of Chicago take their ridiculous MayorJohnson to task right now.
in trying to secure and defend illegals over their residents.
And I saw the same thing when Donald Trump just had a presser yesterday in California, andthere were many of those very well-to-do residents from the Palisade area who was there
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who were sounding very conservative all of a sudden.
One of them even saying, so we can't get back into our homes until 18 months from now.
We've lost everything.
But miraculously, the governor, Gavin Newsom and the Democrat party came together veryquickly to come up with $50 million to fight Donald Trump on deporting illegals.
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What do you think about that?
Well, you know, the Democrats, you know, they're, they're not going to hide how they are.
You know, it is what it is.
America now is really seeing it firsthand in real time, exactly what the Democrats are upto.
You know, there's no two ways about it.
You look at states that get devastated by hurricanes or tornadoes and they're stillsuffering.
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And then you get a state that has just as big a problem and people come together overthere.
But if we're going to get together and keep people that have broke the law, come into thiscountry smuggling
people in the smuggling children, smuggling drugs, killing people.
If we want that kind of people on our street, something's wrong.
needs to go get tested for something else.
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It's a mind virus.
you know, mean, Donald Trump all throughout his time yesterday at that California presser,he kept saying, common sense is back.
Common sense is back.
And I just started thinking about it like...
We're now six days into his second term.
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Why didn't we have this level of common sense just seven days ago?
Why is it now?
Like, for example, at his inauguration, one of the loudest applause he received was whenhe said, there are only two genders.
Did we not know that seven days ago?
Did we not know that it was only two genders?
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Why is it now?
that we realize, yeah, there's not 87 different genders.
There's only two and everything else is a mental health crisis.
Well, down here in Texas, we call it backbone.
You have to have a strong backbone to say a lot of times to speak the truth.
A lot of people skirt around like they can't tell you what the definition of a woman isreally is and so forth.
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So, you know, now we have a plain spoken man.
He's a little, I'd say, unconventional in the way he's going to govern.
But you know what?
I'd rather have that over what we've had for four years.
see what we are.
What four years you see how many millions of people have come into this country, how manybillions of dollars that has cost us.
I mean lives, it's cost us what the fentanyl has done.
(22:29):
The cost of fuel, the economy where it's at, inflation going to a 40 year high.
You just, just, I mean, you need more, you need a whole blackboard.
You can't write this on one sheet of paper.
It's really been bad.
I think there's going to be a tremendous amount of good come out of these four years.
And I appreciate what you said about the Tucker tour because I, you know, I visited withyou quite a bit before that and you did have a spark in your eye that night.
(22:56):
think you, I think you caught on fire a little bit that night.
did.
It felt ominous prior.
to that event and then I walked into that event and people using the name of Jesus withoutqualifying it, people just being happy and not depressed.
And I think we needed that because I've been in this fight for well over four years.
(23:20):
Like actively I've been in this fight since 2020.
and all that we saw there, I mean, just beating the ground.
I think many of us, now you have a lot of people who are just now waking up and seeing thelight.
They have a lot of energy and that's great.
But many of us who have kept the hope alive that Donald Trump could get back in officeagain, we were exhausted right before Tucker Carlson's tour came along.
(23:46):
I know for me at least, I was just exhausted.
Like I'm over this already.
And then you walk into that and I think,
You know, and that is really informed my decisions even after that night of just howimportant hope is.
We have to be around people who think like us.
We have to be rejuvenated when you're out here in the battle on the front lines.
(24:10):
Well, you're right.
And, know, I think about Ronald Reagan, how great a president Ronald Reagan was and somuch that he had to confront.
Donald Trump has the same.
Social Security is running out.
Reagan had to confront that.
know, there's a lot of things if you look at the similarities with Reagan did and what hadto do and what Trump's going to have to do.
(24:33):
You know, Reagan had a famous quote.
He said, we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation goneunder.
And you know, I think about that quote a lot.
That is so true.
Guys, listen, you need to find out who Mr.
Joe Penland is.
You can go to joefromtexas.com.
(24:55):
Did I get that right?
joefromtexas.com?
Yes, ma'am.
Yeah, you can also text.
We set up a text for you, Joe.
You guys can text Joe, J-O-E, at 646-820-8714.
646-820-8714.
He has a contract.
from the American people that he will be hand delivering to the president.
(25:18):
Just again, we are all in this together.
Not that COVID-19 all in this together, but right now all in this together.
Thank you, Mr.
Penland.
Thank you, Kathy.
Have a great day.
Yes, blessings.
OK, guys, listen, call me 855-839-1210, 855-839-1210.
And I see out here on Twitter, you guys are having a debate, a very healthy debate aboutmy hair.
(25:43):
Should I get a straight, corporate cut, a power cut?
Some like it curly, some like it straight.
What do y'all think?
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(26:07):
on Amazon during the all the COVID hype.
But nonetheless, I wanted to bring in my next guest, Kaizen.
I see you do.
Did I get that right, Kaizen?
Close enough.
It's a hard one.
I'm so sorry.
So sorry.
Say your name for me, please.
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Kaizen Asiyadu.
Asiyadu.
Thank you so much, Kaizen.
Kaizen, saw you.
You came, you popped up on my screen.
I mean this gorgeous black man, Harvard educated, being so smart about a variety ofissues.
(26:49):
And then the California fires broke out and you again, so sensical, so logical and withoutall of the emotions.
even though you were one of the people who had to flee your homes because of thedevastating fires.
(27:10):
And so I wanted to bring you on because again, I go to Gavin Newsom's page and he says,what Donald Trump is saying is a lie.
I go to Donald Trump's page and Donald Trump is saying, no, Newsom is wrong.
I'm right.
It's so much disinformation out there.
And I found you to be just a breath of fresh air in bringing logic.
(27:31):
and facts, receipts as they say, to the conversation.
So I wanted to bring you on.
Donald Trump was out there in your neck of the woods yesterday doing a presser, flankedwith Democrats and Republicans on both sides of him.
he was, I mean, he was not there to play around.
(27:51):
He was very to the point on many issues which were appreciated.
But one of them that stands out to me,
is the water situation.
have Gavin Newsom saying, no, there is no water coming down from Canada and we redirectedit into the Pacific Ocean.
That's not true.
But Donald Trump is saying, no, millions of gallons of water has been redirected.
(28:15):
And that is the reason that's one of the many reasons why California just was justengulfed in flames in the way that it was.
Help us understand what's really going on.
Yeah.
So I think to help your viewers understand why there's a gap here, I think it's importantto distinguish between being directionally correct and technically correct.
(28:37):
So I think Trump is directionally correct, but he's technically accurate on some of thethings.
And Gavin Newsom is directionally incorrect, but technically accurate on things.
So it's like the difference between like the major and the minor details where DonaldTrump is majorly correct is
California does have a water policy that is dysfunctional.
(28:58):
And it's just a fact that we have dumped millions of gallons of water into the PacificOcean to protect endangered species of fish called the Delta Smelt.
And that water has a financial value.
That's water that we can use for other purposes.
And it's water that we chose to redirect because of a fish.
Now, is it technically true that we needed that water to fight these specific fires?
(29:23):
No, we did have water in some of the reservoirs that were used for the fires.
However, what Trump is speaking to is a general worldview of dysfunctional management andthe wrong priorities that's getting reflected in many ways across the board, from the LA
Fire Department being understaffed and under budget to the LA Fire Department focused onDEI instead of merit to
(29:51):
the fact that we're not clearing out our forests of deadwood.
And as a result, the forests are more flammable than they need to.
So Trump is pointing to a bigger trend.
And even if the exact things he's pointing to aren't exactly what happened in this case, Ithink he's pointing out the macro issue.
Whereas Gavin Newsom, I think he's correct that, yeah, you know, the water that we putinto the Pacific Ocean to protect this fish, it's called the Delta smelt, the water that
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we put in the Pacific Ocean to protect this fish was not water that we needed for thesefires.
However, the same kind of thinking, like we need to prioritize fish over people, and weneed to prioritize DEI over merit, and we need to prioritize allowing homeless people to
live on the street rather than enforcing law and order.
(30:37):
All of these things contribute to a circumstance where not only are there more fires thanthere need to be, and by the way, some of the fires were probably arson.
14,000 fires are started by homeless people every year.
I that in one of your videos that over 13,000 fires are started every single year inCalifornia by homeless people.
And then when you have an explosion of homelessness, it stands to reason that there willbe an upward trajectory on the number of wildfires that are started by these homeless
(31:10):
people.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'll give you an example of like an individual instance that shows what Trump ispointing out, which is a dysfunctional worldview, a dysfunctional far leftist government.
Let's just call it what it is.
So there was a man who was near the Kenneth fire in LA.
So that's one of the big fires that broke out during the Palisades fire.
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This guy was riding around on a bike with a yellow blowtorch coming from that fire.
The citizen saw him.
And they were like, why is this guy riding on a blowtorch during a fire?
Did this guy start a fire?
The citizens confronted him in the stage of citizens arrest, which is already dangerous,right?
Like we don't want to have a society where citizens need to be arresting individuals, butthey did that.
(31:54):
Fortunately, no one was hurt.
The police, LA police department arrests him.
Turns out that this guy is an illegal immigrant.
He's here in the country illegally.
A year ago, he was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon.
He was not deported.
So this guy is riding around the streets of LA, this time with the blowtorch.
(32:15):
He's not deported.
They can't deport him, right?
So they decide, okay, we actually can't arrest him because we don't have probable causedespite the fact that he had a blowtorch.
Then they give him to ICE and ICE can't deport him because California has sanctuary statelaws protecting illegal immigrants from getting deported even though he committed a crime.
So it's like, even though it's very probable, no, they did not see the fire leave thetorch, the blow torch, but we're not allowed to connect any dots when it's not in favor of
(32:48):
this dysfunctional worldview.
Exactly.
So it's like.
Okay, I mean, I guess you didn't see him lighting the fire.
So maybe you don't have probable cause.
Maybe he just walking around with a blow torch just because it's hot.
Yeah, just because during fires, right?
I know, right?
Oh, okay.
You know, it's just very dysfunctional.
(33:09):
but you know what?
Let me go back to what you were saying earlier, because to Donald Trump's point, when youmake this distinction between directionally correct versus technically
Correct.
mean, is it technically correct that had the water millions of gallons not been divertedinto the Pacific Ocean, that that water would have been available to keep the ground and
(33:30):
the trees moist and tumbleweeds may not have been so dry, the ground may not have been sodry being the, you know, the tinder that just kept this fire going so easily.
Yep, based on my research, that's not correct because a lot of the water would have beenused for places outside of LA, not in LA specifically.
(33:53):
So it's not like that water would have gone through the LA forest and the forest wouldhave been more moist so they wouldn't have burned.
some of the farmland, some of the farmland that's north of us, where they are constantlystruggling, it's like they're in a drought even when there's not a drought.
Right.
Yeah, they would have been less affected.
Yeah, okay.
So from a farming perspective, i.e.
economy, but what about
(34:14):
One of the reservoirs were or was empty at the time of these fires.
Is that true?
Exactly.
That is true.
So the Santa Ines Reservoir, which is the closest reservoir for Pacific Palisades.
So it's there.
It's the first reservoir in state of America.
And it was empty water and it was empty.
Yeah.
And it was empty for a long time, months, maybe even like a year.
(34:38):
Well, where do they get the water to fill that up?
So that's a great question that I don't know the answer to.
Probably from the water that was redirected maybe?
Yeah, maybe, but I don't think the issue is that the reservoir wasn't filled because therewasn't enough water.
The reservoir wasn't filled because they were doing maintenance on the reservoir, but theytook too long to do maintenance on the reservoir, right?
(35:00):
Like, when you know there's high risk of fire, you shouldn't have a reservoir that is inthe area with the highest risk of fire.
be empty for months or even a year on end.
So again, it's like, how does that happen?
Right?
Like it's easy for him to gather new some to say, Oh, well, we use other reservoirs.
Well, clearly the reservoir near Pacific policies was built there because it's the mosteffective place to have a reservoir for Pacific policies.
(35:25):
And what about the water pressure?
We're using something else.
And what about the of water pressure?
Exactly.
So, you know, there been whistleblowers.
Yeah, I'm sorry, Kaiser.
I want to extend this a little bit longer.
Go ahead and explain the lack of water pressure.
Yeah.
So the lack of water pressure, I mean, just to think of it simply, the further away areservoir is from the place that it's serving, the more water pressure becomes an issue.
(35:53):
And because that particular reservoir had no water, they had to go even farther to accessthe water, which reduces the water pressure where they needed it the most.
Exactly.
So it's unclear how much it affected things, but it absolutely affects things because ifit didn't matter, then we wouldn't have a reservoir there.
But what did matter to them was having three gay, three lesbian at the head of the L.A.
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Fire Department.
I saw one of your videos where you were like, that is, know, if, if, you know, if thelesbian community is less than one percent of L.A.
County.
It's a over representation of lesbians at the LA Fire Department that seemed to be abigger priority for them.
Yeah, so people say, well, what's the issue?
(36:43):
You know, maybe lesbians can do the job just as well.
Sure, but look at it from a numbers perspective.
Only 3 % of the LA Fire Department is women to begin with, and then only a smallpercentage of those women are going to be lesbian.
So if three of the top people at LA Fire Department are all lesbian women, then.
there's probably something in the policy that's over promoting lesbians rather thanfocusing on merit.
(37:05):
So it's like all across the board, can see dysfunctional logic leading to suboptimaloutcomes.
And it's all connected.
It's all connected.
You can't just focus on one part of the narrative and then exclude the others.
We have to look.
There is something in the water, not in California, because they don't have any, butthere's something about this mind.
(37:27):
but this woke mind virus.
don't know if there's a better name for it, but there is something that is causing peopleto think irrational or to lean towards that, which is more irrational than not.
Yeah.
And people are just buying it.
Right.
So Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass, they'll redirect attention away from them and they'll say,it's just climate change.
(37:51):
When
The climate is changing.
That's something we need to adapt to.
Climate has always been changing.
And the response that they have is just inadequate, regardless of what the conditions are.
So we need to stop buying these narratives from politicians and then complaining, why arepoliticians so bad?
Because we allow them to give us bad excuses and then we accept them.
And then when we see our whole city burning, somehow we still accept their excuses.
(38:15):
Exactly.
I think Gavin Newsom, you know, look, I think
governing a state is really difficult.
Like I get that it's a really hard job.
But for me, he would get a lot more credence if he literally just owned it and said, youknow what?
There are things I could have done better here and I'm sorry.
I'm to doing better.
But instead he's constantly fighting with Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
(38:37):
It's like those guys are trying to protect the illegals.
They found a way to come up with 50 million dollars, but their people can't get back intheir homes.
Kaizen.
Thank you so much for coming on.
You guys can follow Kaizen on Twitter.
Where can they find you on Twitter Kaizen?
It's that Kaizen.
So T H A T S K A I Z E N.
(38:57):
Thank you so much Kaizen.
Guys, we're getting ready to go on break.
When I come back.
Only a few minutes left if you want to jump in on the conversation.
It's 855-839-1210.
855-839-1210.
Yes, I love it.
Hey, Pennsylvania.
How y'all doing?
(39:18):
Oh my goodness, this has been so much fun.
Such an hour packed, full of information.
I hope a shot of adrenaline as you move throughout this day, as well as a tinge of hope.
Hope is so important.
You got to keep it up.
And after this first week of Donald Trump, mean, wow, what an amazing week.
(39:39):
What can we expect next week?
mean, with a week like this, what can we expect next week?
By the grace of God, all good.
Literally, I wake up praying for the president, JD Vance and many of our leaders.
I go to bed and I wake up thinking about them, praying for them.
go to bed thinking about them, praying for them.
(39:59):
because it's not just about them, but it is our hope for our nation.
I want good for each and every one of you.
I do.
I earnestly do.
I get excited when I hear good things going on in the lives of people.
I want that.
I earnestly desire that.
But in order to do that, we got some rough days ahead of us.
(40:22):
And we're gonna each have to be out there on the battlefield or wherever that battlefieldis, whether it's in your home or outside of your home, being willing to give reasons why
we believe what we believe.
And that's the purpose of my show is to equip you for going out at church tomorrow athome, when you picking up your coffee.
(40:46):
You got to go do all of that.
Donald Trump needs our help.
That's why I want you guys, earnestly, to go to joefromtexas.com, sign your name there.
We're going to be handing that over to President Trump to let him know we are here.
These are the things we want.
We believe you can do it.
That's what we're going to have to do.
(41:06):
We're going to have to stay involved and stay engaged.
Guys, here's my book behind me.
Go get it, kathybarnett.com.
You can start there.
And I will see you guys next week.
Blessings, take care of each other.
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