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May 8, 2025 22 mins

In this eye-opening conversation, Kelly sits down with Thais Gibson, founder of The Personal Development School, to explore how your attachment style could be influencing everything from your leadership effectiveness to your emotional resilience and business growth.

With over 35,000 students across 107 countries and a background in neuroplasticity and subconscious reprogramming, Thais breaks down the four main attachment styles and reveals how understanding your subconscious wiring is the key to unlocking lasting transformation in every area of your life.

Whether you’re a CEO, team leader, or entrepreneur in a season of growth, this episode gives you the clarity and tools to expand your success from the inside out.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

  • Why reprogramming your subconscious is essential to self-leadership and scaling your impact

  • How Thais turned a two-year waitlist into a global digital education platform

  • The 4 attachment styles (secure, anxious, dismissive avoidant, fearful avoidant) and how each one shows up at work and in business

  • Signs your attachment style may be sabotaging your success, boundaries, or risk-taking ability

  • Why high performers often carry invisible emotional patterns—and how to rewire them

  • How secure attachment creates better leadership, stronger relationships, and business longevity

  • The surprising link between your childhood conditioning and your ability to scale a company or build a high-performing team

  • Daily emotional habits that help anxious, avoidant, and fearful avoidant types create safety, trust, and confidence

  • Why burnout, people-pleasing, and emotional shutdown may be tied to unresolved subconscious programming

  • How to use this awareness to become a more present, peaceful, and purposeful version of yourself

TIMESTAMPS:
02:00 – Why most of our patterns are subconscious (and how to rewire them)
04:50 – What is your attachment style and why does it matter?
06:00 – Secure attachment: what it looks like and how it forms
07:45 – Anxious attachment in business: people-pleasing, fear of disapproval, and burnout
10:20 – Dismissive avoidant attachment: the hidden cost of hyper-independence
13:30 – Fearful avoidant attachment: the “entrepreneurial edge” and emotional volatility
17:45 – How to shift your subconscious programming for long-term success

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