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October 29, 2025 42 mins

In this episode, Mike Phillips sits down with Doug Gray, PhD, CEO of Action Learning Associates, to unpack practical, outcome based leadership and family-business succession that actually works. Doug reframes SWOT so leaders focus on what they can control, explains why the least structure necessary accelerates execution, and walks through his simple rubric for succession: pace, space, grace. You will also hear when to use closed LLMs to protect sensitive data, how to leverage AI as a right-seat tool, and why curiosity is currency for modern leaders.


What you’ll learn

  • A cleaner way to apply SWOT for real decisions

  • How to assess organizational maturity without bureaucracy

  • The “pace, space, grace” model to reduce conflict in family transitions

  • Smart AI adoption for compliance-heavy workflows

  • Actionable next steps leaders can run this week


Guest highlightsDoug has coached thousands of leaders across sectors, authored multiple books on leadership and OKRs, and builds tools that help teams make better decisions with measurable results.


Resources mentioned


Contact Information:

Doug Gray, PhD

Web:  Action-Learning.com

LinkedIn: Linkedin.com/in/Doug-Gray-PhD


Mike Phillips

Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠mike@TheLeadshipToolkit.com⁠⁠⁠⁠

LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Linkedin.com/in/LeadTheTeam⁠⁠⁠⁠

Twitter: ⁠⁠@LeadershipTLT⁠

YouTube: ⁠YouTube.com/@MikePhillips


Credits:

Hosted by Mike Phillips

Produced by The Leadership Toolkit Team

Guests: Doug Gray, PhD — Outcome based leadership strategist and family-business succession guide


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