June 4, 2025 • 34 mins
Join Dwayne Kennedy and Tammy X on The Napsolute Truth as they share their wild Las Vegas trip, including an Eddie Griffin show that was more career promo than comedy . They dive into the "illusion" of Donald Trump's business success, suggesting it was manufactured by media like "The Apprentice." .
The hosts also dissect the alarming state of democracy, arguing it "no longer exists" due to a breakdown of shared facts and trust in national elections, attributing this to a "flood the zone with shit" propaganda strategy.
They also tackle the disturbing rise of racial tensions, citing a reported incident in Atlanta involving KKK members . Finally, they explore the widespread issue of narcissism, focusing on figures like Elon Musk and his alleged belief that "the biggest problem with Americans is their empathy."
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No.
That's my type of racist.
Yeah.
That's all, but see, that's just it.
There's 70 million of
them out there. 70 million.
So believe me, if you decide to just walk
over there, you will get paid.
Absolutely, absolutely.
So it's not, it's just at what cost?
Yes.
You're gonna get paid.
You're gonna be at their fundraisers.
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You're gonna be at their events.
You're gonna be at Trump Tower.
You might be in Las Vegas.
Speaking of Las Vegas, I
went to see Eddie Griffin.
Oh, you did?
Wild.
Great.
Show.
No.
No.
Wild.
The first 15 minutes, it was like some
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type of weirdo, like high
school, I can't even describe it.
The first 15 minutes of the show was just
promos of his career.
(Laughing) Promos of his career in video.
Oh boy.
In poor, not HD, well produced, in poor,
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like off your phone, like, you know,
battery dying, blurry ass video.
He did it in indie.
Nigga.
Ah, that HD, indie, that's funny.
You know.
That's funny.
You should do this for a living.
Yeah, I'm gonna try it.
I'm gonna do it tonight for a living.
(Laughing)
So he did a retrospective of himself?
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It was really fascinating.
A tribute to himself.
It was crazy.
Wow.
Where'd you see him at?
In Las Vegas.
I went to Las Vegas for the
first time ever in my life.
Oh really?
Yeah, I'd never been, it was great.
Oh, work, vacation work.
I surprised my husband
with a trip for his birthday.
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And went to Las Vegas.
And went to Las Vegas.
And left it there for the S and P's.
Babe, I'm surprised you with a trip.
I'm going to Vegas.
(Laughing) Oh wow.
Yeah, it was so great.
I'd never been before.
I was like crazy.
I've been to fucking Croatia.
I've been to Russia, but
I'd never been to Las Vegas.
Right, you've been to Italy many times.
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So what'd you think about it, Las Vegas?
I thought it was really interesting.
I mean, you know, I'm a weirdo.
So I mean, the things that I kind of
picked up on was like, my first question
was like, you know how much power the Las
Vegas machine must have?
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You can't smoke anywhere on earth.
You could barely smoke outside.
You can smoke in every
one of those casinos.
Oh right.
They're smoking indoors.
And I'm like, isn't that a federal law?
Like who gave them just a pass?
It was like, I was like,
man, now that's the question.
You know, not to cause any problems, but
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I'm just like, okay, this is weird.
I saw a prostitute.
Where?
In the casino.
How'd you know?
Wait, I almost blew up the spot.
So I'm just sitting there waiting for my
steps for the check-in.
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I'm sitting there in the hotel waiting to
check-in and there's
this gorgeous, oh my God.
I mean, like, even from afar, you could
tell her skin just must feel like butter.
I was like, Jesus Christ, this is the
most gorgeous woman I've
ever seen in my life in person.
So I'm like, wow.
And so she's just walking
with her bag and she's walking.
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And so then I guess, you know, you can
really people watch this.
So I'm just looking around
and so I don't see her again.
I assume she's checking in.
Then I see her again with a drink in her
hand and she's doing still walking, but
there's a guy next to her.
And I'm like, oh, that must be her guy.
And so they're talking
and she's like, mm-hmm.
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And she's like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
And so he's like, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then he takes his
hand, he has on these shorts.
He puts his hand in his waistband, pulls
open his pants and says, see?
And she looks down and she's like, mm.
And mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
And initially when he does it, I'm like,
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hey, that's disgusting.
Oh, oh, oh, this is none of my business.
I thought he was flashing
her, like being disgusting.
And I was like, oh, I'm
sorry, sis, you're working.
I'm sorry.
Oh, wow.
I was like, oh my God.
Man, so he was petitioning her.
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Like, come on, let's go do this.
And she was like, mm.
Let me show you what I'm working with.
Yes, oh my God, that is so embarrassing.
I'm so, I'm so.
So did they leave together or no?
I don't know, I looked away.
I looked away, I couldn't look anymore.
Oh man, Las Vegas adventure.
Las Vegas adventure, man.
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We were at the
Cosmopolitan, is that what it's called?
I think that's what it's
called, the Cosmopolitan.
But it was so much fun.
We went and saw, what's his name?
George Benson.
George Benson.
We went to, yeah, it was great.
What's funny is that so many times when
you hear about certain artists that you
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haven't heard from in years, and you
don't know if they
passed away, they're in Vegas.
Well, actually, he's on tour.
So he wasn't like, he's not doing a
residency, as you would call it.
But luckily he happened to be there
because, you know,
hubby loves guitar players.
And we went to this, what is it,
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Madame Tussauds Wax Museum.
Fascinating, I mean,
just things that you
just never do, right?
So it's like a big adult
amusement park, I guess.
That's what it's like.
And we went to a comedy show.
The only thing I didn't
get to do was magic show.
I wanted to go with magic show.
You like magic?
I am obsessed with magic.
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I love it.
Well, stick around, Donald Trump making
our rights disappear.
(Laughing) I call Donald Trump like, he's
basically, Donald Trump is basically a
nightclub hypnotist.
Because he just says things over and over
and over and over and over, too.
People just believe it.
It's so unfortunate.
You know, that's interesting.
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As I was coming to the studio.
In this traffic?
Oh my God, it was so ridiculous.
As I was coming to the
studio, I was listening to MSNBC.
Maybe it was MSNBC, maybe
it was TikTok, who knows.
But the commentator was talking about the
difference between evil and stupidity.
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Actually, it's either a study or a
philosophical thought about, there are
very few people that are actually evil,
but there are a multitude of people that
are, the term they use was
stupid, I'd say unintelligent.
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But she said that,
and in order for the evil ones to really
gain power, they
must-- Enlist the stupid.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, and I was
like, wow, that is so true.
Well, Donald Trump seems like he's both.
Evil and stupid.
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That's really fascinating, too.
Isn't it?
Because I mean, he's
so, he's so unintelligent.
And so the premise-- And yet, but the
premise that we go off of is that, if you
are a wealthy person, a successful person
in business, that there must be some type
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of intelligence behind your actions.
But what we find is that there's a system
in place that has kind of propped him up,
that he's been an unsuccessful business
person in a multitude of ways, but what
he has been successful in doing is the
perception of that success, i.e.
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licensing the name Trump.
So Trump ties, Trump stakes, Trump this.
And so he gets this, he gets his cult to
purchase the cache of Trump.
Right, and the cat that
produced the-- The show?
Yeah, what's the show?
The Apprentice.
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The Apprentice.
What's his name, Burnett?
Whoever that cat is, apologize.
He said, I apologize for helping to make
Donald Trump seem more
successful than he actually was.
See, that he was a part
of that propaganda machine.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And the cat, Tony Schwartz, who co-wrote
the Art of the Deal with Trump, those two
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cats came out and spoke against Trump,
and they regretted having done the things
they did to help to
elevate his national profile.
Like you said, to give people the
illusion that he's a successful person.
Because it's all an illusion.
Yeah.
You know, and, but
the thing is, you can't,
you can't unring a bell.
No, I mean, he's president.
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This, we're headed downhill now.
The sled has been kicked downhill, man.
It's really fascinating.
Yeah.
But I think the most fascinating thing is
that-- Which, I don't mean to cut you
off, Tam, but here's the thing.
I don't mind somebody being ignorant,
because I'm ignorant.
You know what I mean?
I didn't have to tell you that.
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You know what I mean?
Well aware.
Yeah, but don't be malicious.
I mean, if you don't know things, don't
be malicious and don't be arrogant.
Be, you know what I mean?
I'm ignorant, but I'm humble.
I'm ignorant, but I know I'm ignorant.
I accept that, and I don't intend to
deliberately do you harm.
My ignorance might result in your harm in
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some kind of way, it's unbeknownst to me,
but I'm not like, I don't know, I don't
want you to tell me, and I'm also trying
to do things that's gonna
make your life worse, knowingly.
You know, that's the thing about Trump.
He's ignorant and he's malicious.
You know, and also, it
seems as though-- He's a savior.
He's sadistic.
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He takes joy in people's
misery and people's pain.
He's a-- I don't know if it's a joy more
than just not, he's obtuse.
He doesn't care one way or the other,
because it doesn't affect him.
And so that's why him
and, what's his name?
The Tesla boy?
Elon Musk.
That's why he and Elon get along so well,
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because they both lack empathy.
Right.
You know, they lack consideration.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, oh my God!
You know, like two-- We fuck over.
Like two college girls, like, oh my God!
We're both the same way, that's so cool.
But see, they lack empathy,
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yet they want to curvy empathy.
They want you to feel for them, like,
this judge is against me, or remember, I
think they showed Elon on television,
damn near in tears talking about his
stock, and talking about, why
would you talk about my cars?
And like, are you crazy?
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Like, how is it that
you don't get the flip?
Right, and that you could cause so many
people so much misery, deliberately, but
again, but then that's, you
know, they're narcissists.
Yeah. They're narcissists.
Yeah, yeah.
And not to say we all have that to some
degree, but at least I'm
a self-aware narcissist.
I'm a well-meaning narcissist.
I'm a narcissist that
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doesn't mean you any harm.
Speaking of narcissism,
welcome to The Absolute Truth.
My name is Tammy X, and this is the
amazing Dwayne Kennedy.
You just dropped in on what is normally
going on with us, just a conversation.
One of the things that I think is
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interesting, and I wanted to get your
take on it, is how the television,
or the idiot box, as I call it, we got
MSNBC, we got CNN, we got Fox.
Fox.
Fox.
We got Newsmax.
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We got Omen.
It's a new one.
No, News.
It's a new one.
News Nation.
Yeah, News Nation.
So, but what I have observed for a really
long time now is the demise
of democracy, as we know it.
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And yet, everybody's kind of acting like
it's not happening, or acting like, you
know, democracy is in jeopardy.
We don't have, it's not in
jeopardy, it no longer exists.
We don't have the rule of law.
We don't have a certain set
of facts that we all agree on.
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Like, okay, this is the fact,
and you know, you can argue about your
opinion on that fact.
We don't have, on a national level, I
don't think we have
trust in the elections.
I feel like locally, I feel like locally,
we have trust in our elections.
For now.
But nationally.
Right, right, because
that was Trump's whole game.
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You can't trust the process.
You know, when they say, like Steve
Bannon, one of his henchmen, you know,
the philosophy is
flood the zone with shit.
Just keep putting out propaganda and
bullshit and lies and overwhelm people
with so many lies that they can't process
everything, so they give up.
But to what end?
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That's my-- But here's
the-- But powerful what?
Because if the stock market crashes, one
of his henchmen said,
"I lost $7 million."
Well, I'm sorry, boo, but what did you
think was gonna happen?
I think they're so
blinded by fear and greed.
I think that they don't even, it's like,
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at this point, to me,
it's a cult of nihilism.
I don't care if it's all gonna burn down.
I don't want you to have anything.
I don't wanna take as much as I can.
I don't want you to have anything.
And I'll burn this whole thing down
before I let you have anything because
it's that pathological greed.
And racism.
And racism.
Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it's that pathology.
And it just seems so odd to me because
when I think about what does America look
like without our footprint, without our
fingerprints all over it.
Yesterday, I saw a
Christian, was it Christian Dior?
I saw a commercial, no, with Cartier.
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Because, you know, I'm that girl.
I had this Cartier commercial came across
my feed and it was a punk rock, it was a
punk rock sound behind it.
The ad music was like
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some punk rock song.
And I was like, huh?
When any other time it would have been,
you know, a lovely day, it would have
been Bill Withers, it would have been the
Commodores, it would have been something
that we created that is the backdrop of
any advertising, any
anything that they do.
And it just made me laugh.
And I was like, mm, this is what it looks
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like, a day without black folks.
Nah, yeah.
A day without black folks.
Well, I mean, that's what some folks,
some on the right, whatever.
And it purport to one, right?
They want an ethno state.
But the thing is, you had an ethno state.
It was Europe and you
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didn't like it and you left.
And went all over the
world causing everybody misery.
You got an ethno state.
Go back to Slovenia or something.
(Laughing) Go back to
Czechoslovakia or something.
Well, you know, there is a lot of,
there's a lot of ideas around that.
And now he said the
Afrikaners, is that what you call them?
Yeah, yes.
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Bringing folks from South Africa.
Yeah, man, he's funny.
I mean, but-- Yeah,
busting in some new bigots.
(Laughing) I just
think it's so fascinating.
I mean, it's like, I
mean, are we being punked?
Like, do you feel like this is a reality
show and like nobody's telling us, like
there's some cameras?
That's what Trump thinks it is.
It's a reality show.
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Yeah, a racist reality show.
It's just so, but it's just so bizarre.
It's just every time I turn on the TV,
it's just something more bizarre.
And you know what the
most bizarre thing is?
Well, of the myriad.
The constituency watching the town halls,
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watching the town halls of these
Republican leaders, as they're afraid to
have town halls because their people have
lost their jobs, their eggs are still
$20, the price is about to go up and they
are losing their minds like,
why don't you do something?
And I'm waiting for somebody to have the
courage to say, what
are you talking about?
I was a regular Republican.
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I was conservative.
I was fiscally responsible.
I told you all, I told all of
you that this guy was crazy.
I told you that he was a piece of shit.
I told you this, but
no, you threatened me.
You said, we won't vote for you.
He's what we want, he's what we want.
So I completely morphed into a completely
different person that I
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hate to keep this job.
Because you told me to.
Now you want to stand here
and say, what am I doing?
What am I doing?
Make up your damn mind.
So do you want him or you don't want him?
Yeah, well now they all in the trick bag.
Yeah, big time.
I'm really waiting for somebody to say
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that like, he wouldn't even be there if
you guys had made me do this.
Well, I'm waiting for, I think you,
unless there's a radical pivot
turnaround, I think eventually things are
going to slide into chaos.
I mean, further to the point where it's
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going to be like the French Revolution.
I mean, people, I've said this a number
of times where people are
going to be in the streets.
And at some point they're going to be,
they're going to completely
abdicate the democratic process.
Like, you know what, this is not working.
The system's not working.
Fuck it, I'm going out,
and I'm going to your crib.
I'm coming right to you.
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You know, I'm loading up the truck, you
know, and it's just going to be anarchy.
That's what I think is coming.
I mean, yeah, but again, to what end?
Well, the people worry-- What is that
going to do for you?
I don't know.
But you know, when people just get pushed
to the point where they get, they feel
like they don't have any
choice, they're not being heard.
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You know, what is that, what?
Martin Luther King said, "Riot is the
language "of the unheard."
Yeah, so when the whole, when the greater
majority of society starts to feel like
that, whoever they are, black, white,
just the underclass,
the have-nots, you know?
What did Bernie say?
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We the 99%.
Bernie had it the whole time, and they
were, they coveted their racism more than
they coveted their power.
Their racism and their sexism.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It's really fascinating, and we are
living in a very historical time that
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they're going to write about for years.
Yeah, my girl, this is, I mean, I don't
know what you believe in, I
don't believe in anything.
But I mean, I don't know.
But these seem to be like if, like,
biblically or in the, what is it, the
Hopi prophecy, whatever books of
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prophecy, these seem to be the end times.
You know, yesterday they
had a dust storm in Chicago.
Dust storm?
What the grapes and wrath is going on?
It was like Dune, man.
I was like, what is happening?
It's like the sky was just yellow.
Yeah.
It was wild.
I was driving down West on Madison down
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to the Comedy Flex, and
then it just got dark, man.
And there's a dust
storm, you know what I mean?
Thought I saw, was it
the witch on a bicycle?
(Laughing) That's never happened before.
I mean, there's a lot of things that have
never happened before, and will continue.
And I mean, what if we have locusts?
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Yeah, we have locusts.
We have locusts, right?
And it was that convergence where it was
like the two different types of locusts,
I think it was on a seven year cycle, and
one was on a 13 year
cycle, somehow it lined up.
So it was like trillions of locusts.
Oh boy.
And a week ago, they had wildfires.
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You heard about this?
No.
They had wildfires, not on the West
Coast, in Minnesota.
Yeah, it's over, my girl.
It's over.
(Laughing) I know what you gonna do, but
after I leave here, I'm
robbing a liquor store.
(Laughing) I've been
thinking about what to do.
I've really been thinking about what to
do, or even more so,
what to do with my children.
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Like all of my kids are grown.
But you know, what do they wanna do?
How do I protect them and
still, you know, get hat?
You know, like, yeah, you can reach me at
this PO box, but I'm outta here.
This can just be
Thunderdome for like a year.
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What do you say to them now?
We're just having conversations about
where they see themselves, what they
wanna be, where they wanna be.
My two youngest are still in college,
masters and undergrad.
And you know, I'm like, what do you think
about going overseas
to get your doctorate?
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What do you think about
going overseas to finish college?
Yeah, do you ask them what they think the
future of this country is?
I find that they're a lot, they're very
jaded and very
optimistic all at the same time.
And so that's really interesting.
But they're also very, they're filled
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with the passion of advocacy.
So much like those kids that brought down
the Columbus statue here in Chicago, that
you know, I don't know if I'd call it
Black Lives Matter, because we've learned
a lot about, you know, really what is
Black Lives Matter, what, who created it
and what their intentions are.
So I don't know if I would necessarily
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jump on that bandwagon, but
just the fact that, you know.
Well, you know what, when you say that,
like, what do you mean you
wouldn't jump on that bandwagon?
Because I mean, is it a phrase?
Is it an institution?
You know, there was some back and forth
about the people that founded it and that
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one of the Black women that founded it
was starting to feel disenfranchised.
And I was like, you know, much like me
too, here's a Black
woman that started me too.
And it's like, she never even existed.
So I'm like, I kind of, I steer away from
that kind of thing and just kind of rest
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on what is right, what is wrong, rather
than getting, resting under a label, you
know, if that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I believe in what's right, I
believe in what's wrong, I
believe in what I believe in.
And, you know, I also believe that you
can believe whatever you want to believe.
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I could care less, it
doesn't matter to me.
But what you not gonna do
is control what I believe.
Yeah, well, I think that, you know, I
mean, people are people, you know, you
could have a noble cause or a noble
organization and this,
you know, this people fail.
There might be some corruption and some
grifting and some grappling, but I agree
with the sentiment of it.
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You know, the Black lives matter.
Yeah, that like,
yeah, Black lives matter.
But it was never a thing.
It was never, it was, it's
really never been considered.
And it seems like something so simple,
but the fact that no one has ever
considered that we didn't matter.
They took for granted that we mattered,
even though every evidence in front of
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them showed that we didn't.
Right, yeah.
And then I think it starts to even be,
cause in some ways, I mean, that was just
a galvanizing phrase to Black people.
Yeah, you know what?
Yeah, we do.
Cause you always
assume you don't, you know?
We know it.
It's not even an assumption.
Yeah.
You know?
I mean, I'm never surprised when I see
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unfortunate things
happen to Black people.
I'm absolutely never surprised.
No, I mean, it's not real.
One of the sad things about social media
is that it's becoming traumatic, because
social media has brought Black
communities together all over the world.
So in a second, I can see what's
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happening to my sister in Minnesota.
I can see what's happening
to my brother in New Mexico.
I can see, you know what I'm saying?
I can see it.
That's what social media has given us the
tool to really show what is happening.
You know what?
That's a good point.
And it's so traumatic.
And what does that do?
And stressful.
That's what I'm saying.
What does that do to your nervous system
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and your psyche, man, like you said, that
you can just be now just inundated if you
chose to trauma 24 hours a day.
It's a digital hanging.
It's a digital lynching at all times.
Because what was, cause when it's all
said and done, we don't control these, we
don't control what's on this thing.
It's still folks that don't look like us
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that control what's
shot out to us, right?
So here is this mechanism
that shoots out black
trauma, just like the television.
You know, this is a disturbing scene.
They show it over and over and over and
over and over again.
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What's his name?
Chauvin on George Floyd's neck, over and
over and over again.
That's why they hung him.
That's why they hung you in the square.
So you could walk by that black trauma
and you could know
this could happen to you
to keep you in line.
Yeah, but I was-- But you know, this may
be the new Jim Crow, but this is some
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shows, some different Negroes.
I was just gonna say,
I've been seeing it online.
There's some black folks out there now
who are not playing.
The news is not reporting it.
Apparently two KKK members
walked around somewhere
in Atlanta in full regalia.
And like it was okay and got killed.
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And like, but what did
you think was gonna happen?
Well, because historically nothing did
happen for the most part.
Now, you know what, that's why-- That's
because you walked in Peoria.
You didn't walk on the South side.
Well, they were caught up
in-- You didn't walk on O-block.
What did y'all talk to me about?
You ain't walk on O-block.
Right.
But they were caught up in the delusion.
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You know what it is?
Being caught up in
that propaganda bubble.
All you watch the Spark News, all you
listen to is your other bigots.
They're afraid of us.
Yeah, this is it.
Oh yeah, you right.
You right, we gonna throw down.
You right.
We gonna go down there
and scare some Negroes.
We, you gonna get, we gonna.
Now they wearing their now.
I thought you said they
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gonna be scared of them.
I thought they was.
I know they gonna show
up and charge the gun.
Me either.
Where we at now?
I don't know if it is hot.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, just delusional.
Completely.
And again, seeing, like I said, when I'm
seeing online, maybe you're seeing it, I
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would just, they got the folks now, I
would say younger, but I think it's just
this, a group of black folks now who are
not playing, who are fed
up and not backing down.
And it's like, like Raekwon once said, in
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Wu-Tang Clan, one of these, one of his
lyrics was that, "You
got guns, we got guns too."
I think it started
with the Birmingham vote.
Yeah.
It started with the Birmingham vote.
Yeah, right.
Everybody throwing
their hat up in the air now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they getting chaired.
Yeah, man, they're not having it.
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And I think oftentimes,
oftentimes we think
about, where are we now?
This is a watershed moment.
So where are we now?
Trump's first 100, 150 days.
The listeners, where
do you find yourself?
What's your watershed moment?
What's your hat in the air moment, right?
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I mean, we'd like to know.
We'd like to know, I think.
What do you think, Ro?
Well, I would throw your hat in the air.
And wave it, don't you just like, like
you just don't care.
Throw your hat in the air, then hit the
nigga up the side, same with the chair.
Oh my gosh.
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Not enough.
Throw your hat in the air, and then hit a
whitey in the head with a
chair, like you just don't care.
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, he was
the only one that had left.
Yeah, man.
Nah, black folks are not having it, man.
They're done.
And it's like, you know what?
What else can you do to me?
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I'm, you know, I might
as well start swinging.
And the irony and the paradox is,
what a lot of white folks, the
evil one, the malicious ones,
they counted on the fact that I'm going
to be inhumane to you, but I'm assuming
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that your humanity is going
to allow me to run over you.
You're not going to retaliate, because
basically, I was almost inferring that
I'm exploiting your humanity.
No, I'm exploiting your fear.
Well-- Because, because that's, because
you don't think that we have humanity.
You're not empathetic, because if you
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think we're like you, which is why you
don't want to give us power, because you
think we'll do to you what you've done to
us, but we've never
cared about what you do.
We've never cared
about you living around us.
We've never cared about you walking
around at three o'clock in the morning.
I'll get knocked in the head before these
white folks get knocked in
the head, in my neighborhood.
You know what I'm saying?
So they'll ask you,
hey, I've done it before.
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I'm driving down the street.
I'm like, hey, baby, are you lost?
Are you, where are you trying to go?
To a white person?
Yes, I'm like, what are you doing here?
Yes.
I'm like, are you okay?
Did somebody like
dump you here as a joke?
You'd have been the one like in the 60s,
and then on the shore when
Columbus, like, are you lost?
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No, see, I'm gonna
call you out your name.
My point being, our,
they don't believe in our kind nature.
Of course we have kind nature.
No, I think they do, but okay.
No, they don't think that we, they don't
think that we're kind nature.
They think that we're afraid of them.
Well, I think they
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mistake kindness for fear.
I think they count on the fact that black
people are not going to be inhumane to
them as they are to us.
I think that's what they assume.
I think that's the assumption.
You don't think so?
But they are really, they have really,
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they really turned a corner.
I mean, all I can think about is myself.
I mean, I'm a pretty affable character.
You know, I, you know, I have a hello for
anybody, you know, but I feel like I'm
such a different person now.
Maybe not cynical, but
(01:32:53):
I'm just a different person.
I'm just a different person.
And I don't feel like I'm better for it.
I feel sad.
I feel sad for how this
past election has affected me,
mainly because, you
know, you had no idea.
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So many people were-- That's the
government calling you that?
You wanna talk about something now?
You had no idea.
So many people were, you know,
everybody's like, well, I'm not racist.
I voted for cheap eggs.
I'm not racist.
I voted for this.
And I'm like, no, you can say you're not
racist, but what you
are is okay with racism.
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So the fact that that's a conduit of this
person's behavior is just fine with you.
And okay, thank you.
Thank you for sharing this.
What I hope is that we galvanize around
this and that we become
closer as a community.
Yeah, something destroyed the system.
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This system is unsustainable.
Yeah.
Beyond, you know what I mean?
Just capitalism, the way it
operates is just unsustainable.
I think.
It's the zero-sum game.
That's the problem.
Yeah.
And it's always at somebody's expense.
Yes.
Always.
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In order for me to
elevate, you must fail.
Yeah.
In order for me to
acquire, I must take from you.
You must be depleted.
Yeah.
I don't know.
And then how much is too much?
Why do you need a katrillion dollars?
Like what, for what?
And you're not doing anything.
You're not helping anybody.
You know, you're not building schools.
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You're not, you know,
you're not fixing the education system.
You're not helping with poverty.
I mean, you can solve
poverty and not even miss a meal.
Like, the point of having money is why?
I know.
For what?
All that money.
And then again, we've talked about this
(01:35:04):
before, but it's like, right.
And on top of which, somebody like Elon
Musk, I can't get over that.
It's just, you're literally the richest
person on earth and you've made it your
job to take money out
of people's pockets.
The least of these.
Yeah, the least of these.
So you got a- That's a soulless person.
Yeah, you got a moral deficit.
Yep.
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And he said, "The biggest problem with
Americans is their empathy."
He said that.
I'm like, okay, supervillain.
No.
That's my type of racist.
Yeah.
That's all, but see, that's just it.
There's 70 million of
them out there. 70 million.
So believe me, if you decide to just walk
over there, you will get paid.
Absolutely, absolutely.
So it's not, it's just at what cost?
Yes.
You're gonna get paid.
You're gonna be at their fundraisers.
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You're gonna be at their events.
You're gonna be at Trump Tower.
You might be in Las Vegas.
Speaking of Las Vegas, I
went to see Eddie Griffin.
Oh, you did?
Wild.
Great.
Show.
No.
No.
Wild.
The first 15 minutes, it was like some
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type of weirdo, like high
school, I can't even describe it.
The first 15 minutes of the show was just
promos of his career.
(Laughing) Promos of his career in video.
Oh boy.
In poor, not HD, well produced, in poor,
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like off your phone, like, you know,
battery dying, blurry ass video.
He did it in indie.
Nigga.
Ah, that HD, indie, that's funny.
You know.
That's funny.
You should do this for a living.
Yeah, I'm gonna try it.
I'm gonna do it tonight for a living.
(Laughing)
So he did a retrospective of himself?
(01:01:29):
It was really fascinating.
A tribute to himself.
It was crazy.
Wow.
Where'd you see him at?
In Las Vegas.
I went to Las Vegas for the
first time ever in my life.
Oh really?
Yeah, I'd never been, it was great.
Oh, work, vacation work.
I surprised my husband
with a trip for his birthday.
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And went to Las Vegas.
And went to Las Vegas.
And left it there for the S and P's.
Babe, I'm surprised you with a trip.
I'm going to Vegas.
(Laughing) Oh wow.
Yeah, it was so great.
I'd never been before.
I was like crazy.
I've been to fucking Croatia.
I've been to Russia, but
I'd never been to Las Vegas.
Right, you've been to Italy many times.
(01:02:10):
So what'd you think about it, Las Vegas?
I thought it was really interesting.
I mean, you know, I'm a weirdo.
So I mean, the things that I kind of
picked up on was like, my first question
was like, you know how much power the Las
Vegas machine must have?
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You can't smoke anywhere on earth.
You could barely smoke outside.
You can smoke in every
one of those casinos.
Oh right.
They're smoking indoors.
And I'm like, isn't that a federal law?
Like who gave them just a pass?
It was like, I was like,
man, now that's the question.
You know, not to cause any problems, but
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I'm just like, okay, this is weird.
I saw a prostitute.
Where?
In the casino.
How'd you know?
Wait, I almost blew up the spot.
So I'm just sitting there waiting for my
steps for the check-in.
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I'm sitting there in the hotel waiting to
check-in and there's
this gorgeous, oh my God.
I mean, like, even from afar, you could
tell her skin just must feel like butter.
I was like, Jesus Christ, this is the
most gorgeous woman I've
ever seen in my life in person.
So I'm like, wow.
And so she's just walking
with her bag and she's walking.
(01:03:35):
And so then I guess, you know, you can
really people watch this.
So I'm just looking around
and so I don't see her again.
I assume she's checking in.
Then I see her again with a drink in her
hand and she's doing still walking, but
there's a guy next to her.
And I'm like, oh, that must be her guy.
And so they're talking
and she's like, mm-hmm.
(01:03:55):
And she's like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
And so he's like, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then he takes his
hand, he has on these shorts.
He puts his hand in his waistband, pulls
open his pants and says, see?
And she looks down and she's like, mm.
And mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
And initially when he does it, I'm like,
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hey, that's disgusting.
Oh, oh, oh, this is none of my business.
I thought he was flashing
her, like being disgusting.
And I was like, oh, I'm
sorry, sis, you're working.
I'm sorry.
Oh, wow.
I was like, oh my God.
Man, so he was petitioning her.
(01:04:38):
Like, come on, let's go do this.
And she was like, mm.
Let me show you what I'm working with.
Yes, oh my God, that is so embarrassing.
I'm so, I'm so.
So did they leave together or no?
I don't know, I looked away.
I looked away, I couldn't look anymore.
Oh man, Las Vegas adventure.
Las Vegas adventure, man.
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We were at the
Cosmopolitan, is that what it's called?
I think that's what it's
called, the Cosmopolitan.
But it was so much fun.
We went and saw, what's his name?
George Benson.
George Benson.
We went to, yeah, it was great.
What's funny is that so many times when
you hear about certain artists that you
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haven't heard from in years, and you
don't know if they
passed away, they're in Vegas.
Well, actually, he's on tour.
So he wasn't like, he's not doing a
residency, as you would call it.
But luckily he happened to be there
because, you know,
hubby loves guitar players.
And we went to this, what is it,
(01:05:41):
Madame Tussauds Wax Museum.
Fascinating, I mean,
just things that you
just never do, right?
So it's like a big adult
amusement park, I guess.
That's what it's like.
And we went to a comedy show.
The only thing I didn't
get to do was magic show.
I wanted to go with magic show.
You like magic?
I am obsessed with magic.
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I love it.
Well, stick around, Donald Trump making
our rights disappear.
(Laughing) I call Donald Trump like, he's
basically, Donald Trump is basically a
nightclub hypnotist.
Because he just says things over and over
and over and over and over, too.
People just believe it.
It's so unfortunate.
You know, that's interesting.
(01:06:22):
As I was coming to the studio.
In this traffic?
Oh my God, it was so ridiculous.
As I was coming to the
studio, I was listening to MSNBC.
Maybe it was MSNBC, maybe
it was TikTok, who knows.
But the commentator was talking about the
difference between evil and stupidity.
(01:06:47):
Actually, it's either a study or a
philosophical thought about, there are
very few people that are actually evil,
but there are a multitude of people that
are, the term they use was
stupid, I'd say unintelligent.
(01:07:08):
But she said that,
and in order for the evil ones to really
gain power, they
must-- Enlist the stupid.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, and I was
like, wow, that is so true.
Well, Donald Trump seems like he's both.
Evil and stupid.
(01:07:30):
That's really fascinating, too.
Isn't it?
Because I mean, he's
so, he's so unintelligent.
And so the premise-- And yet, but the
premise that we go off of is that, if you
are a wealthy person, a successful person
in business, that there must be some type
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of intelligence behind your actions.
But what we find is that there's a system
in place that has kind of propped him up,
that he's been an unsuccessful business
person in a multitude of ways, but what
he has been successful in doing is the
perception of that success, i.e.
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licensing the name Trump.
So Trump ties, Trump stakes, Trump this.
And so he gets this, he gets his cult to
purchase the cache of Trump.
Right, and the cat that
produced the-- The show?
Yeah, what's the show?
The Apprentice.
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The Apprentice.
What's his name, Burnett?
Whoever that cat is, apologize.
He said, I apologize for helping to make
Donald Trump seem more
successful than he actually was.
See, that he was a part
of that propaganda machine.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And the cat, Tony Schwartz, who co-wrote
the Art of the Deal with Trump, those two
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cats came out and spoke against Trump,
and they regretted having done the things
they did to help to
elevate his national profile.
Like you said, to give people the
illusion that he's a successful person.
Because it's all an illusion.
Yeah.
You know, and, but
the thing is, you can't,
you can't unring a bell.
No, I mean, he's president.
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This, we're headed downhill now.
The sled has been kicked downhill, man.
It's really fascinating.
Yeah.
But I think the most fascinating thing is
that-- Which, I don't mean to cut you
off, Tam, but here's the thing.
I don't mind somebody being ignorant,
because I'm ignorant.
You know what I mean?
I didn't have to tell you that.
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You know what I mean?
Well aware.
Yeah, but don't be malicious.
I mean, if you don't know things, don't
be malicious and don't be arrogant.
Be, you know what I mean?
I'm ignorant, but I'm humble.
I'm ignorant, but I know I'm ignorant.
I accept that, and I don't intend to
deliberately do you harm.
My ignorance might result in your harm in
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some kind of way, it's unbeknownst to me,
but I'm not like, I don't know, I don't
want you to tell me, and I'm also trying
to do things that's gonna
make your life worse, knowingly.
You know, that's the thing about Trump.
He's ignorant and he's malicious.
You know, and also, it
seems as though-- He's a savior.
He's sadistic.
(01:10:19):
He takes joy in people's
misery and people's pain.
He's a-- I don't know if it's a joy more
than just not, he's obtuse.
He doesn't care one way or the other,
because it doesn't affect him.
And so that's why him
and, what's his name?
The Tesla boy?
Elon Musk.
That's why he and Elon get along so well,
(01:10:43):
because they both lack empathy.
Right.
You know, they lack consideration.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, oh my God!
You know, like two-- We fuck over.
Like two college girls, like, oh my God!
We're both the same way, that's so cool.
But see, they lack empathy,
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yet they want to curvy empathy.
They want you to feel for them, like,
this judge is against me, or remember, I
think they showed Elon on television,
damn near in tears talking about his
stock, and talking about, why
would you talk about my cars?
And like, are you crazy?
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Like, how is it that
you don't get the flip?
Right, and that you could cause so many
people so much misery, deliberately, but
again, but then that's, you
know, they're narcissists.
Yeah. They're narcissists.
Yeah, yeah.
And not to say we all have that to some
degree, but at least I'm
a self-aware narcissist.
I'm a well-meaning narcissist.
I'm a narcissist that
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doesn't mean you any harm.
Speaking of narcissism,
welcome to The Absolute Truth.
My name is Tammy X, and this is the
amazing Dwayne Kennedy.
You just dropped in on what is normally
going on with us, just a conversation.
One of the things that I think is
(01:12:06):
interesting, and I wanted to get your
take on it, is how the television,
or the idiot box, as I call it, we got
MSNBC, we got CNN, we got Fox.
Fox.
Fox.
We got Newsmax.
(01:12:27):
We got Omen.
It's a new one.
No, News.
It's a new one.
News Nation.
Yeah, News Nation.
So, but what I have observed for a really
long time now is the demise
of democracy, as we know it.
(01:12:48):
And yet, everybody's kind of acting like
it's not happening, or acting like, you
know, democracy is in jeopardy.
We don't have, it's not in
jeopardy, it no longer exists.
We don't have the rule of law.
We don't have a certain set
of facts that we all agree on.
(01:13:09):
Like, okay, this is the fact,
and you know, you can argue about your
opinion on that fact.
We don't have, on a national level, I
don't think we have
trust in the elections.
I feel like locally, I feel like locally,
we have trust in our elections.
For now.
But nationally.
Right, right, because
that was Trump's whole game.
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You can't trust the process.
You know, when they say, like Steve
Bannon, one of his henchmen, you know,
the philosophy is
flood the zone with shit.
Just keep putting out propaganda and
bullshit and lies and overwhelm people
with so many lies that they can't process
everything, so they give up.
But to what end?
(01:13:52):
That's my-- But here's
the-- But powerful what?
Because if the stock market crashes, one
of his henchmen said,
"I lost $7 million."
Well, I'm sorry, boo, but what did you
think was gonna happen?
I think they're so
blinded by fear and greed.
I think that they don't even, it's like,
(01:14:14):
at this point, to me,
it's a cult of nihilism.
I don't care if it's all gonna burn down.
I don't want you to have anything.
I don't wanna take as much as I can.
I don't want you to have anything.
And I'll burn this whole thing down
before I let you have anything because
it's that pathological greed.
And racism.
And racism.
Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it's that pathology.
And it just seems so odd to me because
when I think about what does America look
like without our footprint, without our
fingerprints all over it.
Yesterday, I saw a
Christian, was it Christian Dior?
I saw a commercial, no, with Cartier.
(01:14:57):
Because, you know, I'm that girl.
I had this Cartier commercial came across
my feed and it was a punk rock, it was a
punk rock sound behind it.
The ad music was like
(01:15:18):
some punk rock song.
And I was like, huh?
When any other time it would have been,
you know, a lovely day, it would have
been Bill Withers, it would have been the
Commodores, it would have been something
that we created that is the backdrop of
any advertising, any
anything that they do.
And it just made me laugh.
And I was like, mm, this is what it looks
(01:15:38):
like, a day without black folks.
Nah, yeah.
A day without black folks.
Well, I mean, that's what some folks,
some on the right, whatever.
And it purport to one, right?
They want an ethno state.
But the thing is, you had an ethno state.
It was Europe and you
(01:15:58):
didn't like it and you left.
And went all over the
world causing everybody misery.
You got an ethno state.
Go back to Slovenia or something.
(Laughing) Go back to
Czechoslovakia or something.
Well, you know, there is a lot of,
there's a lot of ideas around that.
And now he said the
Afrikaners, is that what you call them?
Yeah, yes.
(01:16:19):
Bringing folks from South Africa.
Yeah, man, he's funny.
I mean, but-- Yeah,
busting in some new bigots.
(Laughing) I just
think it's so fascinating.
I mean, it's like, I
mean, are we being punked?
Like, do you feel like this is a reality
show and like nobody's telling us, like
there's some cameras?
That's what Trump thinks it is.
It's a reality show.
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Yeah, a racist reality show.
It's just so, but it's just so bizarre.
It's just every time I turn on the TV,
it's just something more bizarre.
And you know what the
most bizarre thing is?
Well, of the myriad.
The constituency watching the town halls,
(01:17:03):
watching the town halls of these
Republican leaders, as they're afraid to
have town halls because their people have
lost their jobs, their eggs are still
$20, the price is about to go up and they
are losing their minds like,
why don't you do something?
And I'm waiting for somebody to have the
courage to say, what
are you talking about?
I was a regular Republican.
(01:17:23):
I was conservative.
I was fiscally responsible.
I told you all, I told all of
you that this guy was crazy.
I told you that he was a piece of shit.
I told you this, but
no, you threatened me.
You said, we won't vote for you.
He's what we want, he's what we want.
So I completely morphed into a completely
different person that I
(01:17:44):
hate to keep this job.
Because you told me to.
Now you want to stand here
and say, what am I doing?
What am I doing?
Make up your damn mind.
So do you want him or you don't want him?
Yeah, well now they all in the trick bag.
Yeah, big time.
I'm really waiting for somebody to say
(01:18:05):
that like, he wouldn't even be there if
you guys had made me do this.
Well, I'm waiting for, I think you,
unless there's a radical pivot
turnaround, I think eventually things are
going to slide into chaos.
I mean, further to the point where it's
(01:18:26):
going to be like the French Revolution.
I mean, people, I've said this a number
of times where people are
going to be in the streets.
And at some point they're going to be,
they're going to completely
abdicate the democratic process.
Like, you know what, this is not working.
The system's not working.
Fuck it, I'm going out,
and I'm going to your crib.
I'm coming right to you.
(01:18:48):
You know, I'm loading up the truck, you
know, and it's just going to be anarchy.
That's what I think is coming.
I mean, yeah, but again, to what end?
Well, the people worry-- What is that
going to do for you?
I don't know.
But you know, when people just get pushed
to the point where they get, they feel
like they don't have any
choice, they're not being heard.
(01:19:08):
You know, what is that, what?
Martin Luther King said, "Riot is the
language "of the unheard."
Yeah, so when the whole, when the greater
majority of society starts to feel like
that, whoever they are, black, white,
just the underclass,
the have-nots, you know?
What did Bernie say?
(01:19:28):
We the 99%.
Bernie had it the whole time, and they
were, they coveted their racism more than
they coveted their power.
Their racism and their sexism.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It's really fascinating, and we are
living in a very historical time that
(01:19:49):
they're going to write about for years.
Yeah, my girl, this is, I mean, I don't
know what you believe in, I
don't believe in anything.
But I mean, I don't know.
But these seem to be like if, like,
biblically or in the, what is it, the
Hopi prophecy, whatever books of
(01:20:12):
prophecy, these seem to be the end times.
You know, yesterday they
had a dust storm in Chicago.
Dust storm?
What the grapes and wrath is going on?
It was like Dune, man.
I was like, what is happening?
It's like the sky was just yellow.
Yeah.
It was wild.
I was driving down West on Madison down
(01:20:34):
to the Comedy Flex, and
then it just got dark, man.
And there's a dust
storm, you know what I mean?
Thought I saw, was it
the witch on a bicycle?
(Laughing) That's never happened before.
I mean, there's a lot of things that have
never happened before, and will continue.
And I mean, what if we have locusts?
(01:20:55):
Yeah, we have locusts.
We have locusts, right?
And it was that convergence where it was
like the two different types of locusts,
I think it was on a seven year cycle, and
one was on a 13 year
cycle, somehow it lined up.
So it was like trillions of locusts.
Oh boy.
And a week ago, they had wildfires.
(01:21:17):
You heard about this?
No.
They had wildfires, not on the West
Coast, in Minnesota.
Yeah, it's over, my girl.
It's over.
(Laughing) I know what you gonna do, but
after I leave here, I'm
robbing a liquor store.
(Laughing) I've been
thinking about what to do.
I've really been thinking about what to
do, or even more so,
what to do with my children.
(01:21:39):
Like all of my kids are grown.
But you know, what do they wanna do?
How do I protect them and
still, you know, get hat?
You know, like, yeah, you can reach me at
this PO box, but I'm outta here.
This can just be
Thunderdome for like a year.
(01:21:59):
What do you say to them now?
We're just having conversations about
where they see themselves, what they
wanna be, where they wanna be.
My two youngest are still in college,
masters and undergrad.
And you know, I'm like, what do you think
about going overseas
to get your doctorate?
(01:22:22):
What do you think about
going overseas to finish college?
Yeah, do you ask them what they think the
future of this country is?
I find that they're a lot, they're very
jaded and very
optimistic all at the same time.
And so that's really interesting.
But they're also very, they're filled
(01:22:43):
with the passion of advocacy.
So much like those kids that brought down
the Columbus statue here in Chicago, that
you know, I don't know if I'd call it
Black Lives Matter, because we've learned
a lot about, you know, really what is
Black Lives Matter, what, who created it
and what their intentions are.
So I don't know if I would necessarily
(01:23:07):
jump on that bandwagon, but
just the fact that, you know.
Well, you know what, when you say that,
like, what do you mean you
wouldn't jump on that bandwagon?
Because I mean, is it a phrase?
Is it an institution?
You know, there was some back and forth
about the people that founded it and that
(01:23:31):
one of the Black women that founded it
was starting to feel disenfranchised.
And I was like, you know, much like me
too, here's a Black
woman that started me too.
And it's like, she never even existed.
So I'm like, I kind of, I steer away from
that kind of thing and just kind of rest
(01:23:51):
on what is right, what is wrong, rather
than getting, resting under a label, you
know, if that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I believe in what's right, I
believe in what's wrong, I
believe in what I believe in.
And, you know, I also believe that you
can believe whatever you want to believe.
(01:24:12):
I could care less, it
doesn't matter to me.
But what you not gonna do
is control what I believe.
Yeah, well, I think that, you know, I
mean, people are people, you know, you
could have a noble cause or a noble
organization and this,
you know, this people fail.
There might be some corruption and some
grifting and some grappling, but I agree
with the sentiment of it.
(01:24:33):
You know, the Black lives matter.
Yeah, that like,
yeah, Black lives matter.
But it was never a thing.
It was never, it was, it's
really never been considered.
And it seems like something so simple,
but the fact that no one has ever
considered that we didn't matter.
They took for granted that we mattered,
even though every evidence in front of
(01:24:53):
them showed that we didn't.
Right, yeah.
And then I think it starts to even be,
cause in some ways, I mean, that was just
a galvanizing phrase to Black people.
Yeah, you know what?
Yeah, we do.
Cause you always
assume you don't, you know?
We know it.
It's not even an assumption.
Yeah.
You know?
I mean, I'm never surprised when I see
(01:25:18):
unfortunate things
happen to Black people.
I'm absolutely never surprised.
No, I mean, it's not real.
One of the sad things about social media
is that it's becoming traumatic, because
social media has brought Black
communities together all over the world.
So in a second, I can see what's
(01:25:39):
happening to my sister in Minnesota.
I can see what's happening
to my brother in New Mexico.
I can see, you know what I'm saying?
I can see it.
That's what social media has given us the
tool to really show what is happening.
You know what?
That's a good point.
And it's so traumatic.
And what does that do?
And stressful.
That's what I'm saying.
What does that do to your nervous system
(01:25:59):
and your psyche, man, like you said, that
you can just be now just inundated if you
chose to trauma 24 hours a day.
It's a digital hanging.
It's a digital lynching at all times.
Because what was, cause when it's all
said and done, we don't control these, we
don't control what's on this thing.
It's still folks that don't look like us
(01:26:21):
that control what's
shot out to us, right?
So here is this mechanism
that shoots out black
trauma, just like the television.
You know, this is a disturbing scene.
They show it over and over and over and
over and over again.
(01:26:42):
What's his name?
Chauvin on George Floyd's neck, over and
over and over again.
That's why they hung him.
That's why they hung you in the square.
So you could walk by that black trauma
and you could know
this could happen to you
to keep you in line.
Yeah, but I was-- But you know, this may
be the new Jim Crow, but this is some
(01:27:03):
shows, some different Negroes.
I was just gonna say,
I've been seeing it online.
There's some black folks out there now
who are not playing.
The news is not reporting it.
Apparently two KKK members
walked around somewhere
in Atlanta in full regalia.
And like it was okay and got killed.
(01:27:25):
And like, but what did
you think was gonna happen?
Well, because historically nothing did
happen for the most part.
Now, you know what, that's why-- That's
because you walked in Peoria.
You didn't walk on the South side.
Well, they were caught up
in-- You didn't walk on O-block.
What did y'all talk to me about?
You ain't walk on O-block.
Right.
But they were caught up in the delusion.
(01:27:47):
You know what it is?
Being caught up in
that propaganda bubble.
All you watch the Spark News, all you
listen to is your other bigots.
They're afraid of us.
Yeah, this is it.
Oh yeah, you right.
You right, we gonna throw down.
You right.
We gonna go down there
and scare some Negroes.
We, you gonna get, we gonna.
Now they wearing their now.
I thought you said they
(01:28:07):
gonna be scared of them.
I thought they was.
I know they gonna show
up and charge the gun.
Me either.
Where we at now?
I don't know if it is hot.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, just delusional.
Completely.
And again, seeing, like I said, when I'm
seeing online, maybe you're seeing it, I
(01:28:29):
would just, they got the folks now, I
would say younger, but I think it's just
this, a group of black folks now who are
not playing, who are fed
up and not backing down.
And it's like, like Raekwon once said, in
(01:28:50):
Wu-Tang Clan, one of these, one of his
lyrics was that, "You
got guns, we got guns too."
I think it started
with the Birmingham vote.
Yeah.
It started with the Birmingham vote.
Yeah, right.
Everybody throwing
their hat up in the air now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they getting chaired.
Yeah, man, they're not having it.
(01:29:12):
And I think oftentimes,
oftentimes we think
about, where are we now?
This is a watershed moment.
So where are we now?
Trump's first 100, 150 days.
The listeners, where
do you find yourself?
What's your watershed moment?
What's your hat in the air moment, right?
(01:29:34):
I mean, we'd like to know.
We'd like to know, I think.
What do you think, Ro?
Well, I would throw your hat in the air.
And wave it, don't you just like, like
you just don't care.
Throw your hat in the air, then hit the
nigga up the side, same with the chair.
Oh my gosh.
(01:29:56):
Not enough.
Throw your hat in the air, and then hit a
whitey in the head with a
chair, like you just don't care.
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, he was
the only one that had left.
Yeah, man.
Nah, black folks are not having it, man.
They're done.
And it's like, you know what?
What else can you do to me?
(01:30:18):
I'm, you know, I might
as well start swinging.
And the irony and the paradox is,
what a lot of white folks, the
evil one, the malicious ones,
they counted on the fact that I'm going
to be inhumane to you, but I'm assuming
(01:30:41):
that your humanity is going
to allow me to run over you.
You're not going to retaliate, because
basically, I was almost inferring that
I'm exploiting your humanity.
No, I'm exploiting your fear.
Well-- Because, because that's, because
you don't think that we have humanity.
You're not empathetic, because if you
(01:31:03):
think we're like you, which is why you
don't want to give us power, because you
think we'll do to you what you've done to
us, but we've never
cared about what you do.
We've never cared
about you living around us.
We've never cared about you walking
around at three o'clock in the morning.
I'll get knocked in the head before these
white folks get knocked in
the head, in my neighborhood.
You know what I'm saying?
So they'll ask you,
hey, I've done it before.
(01:31:25):
I'm driving down the street.
I'm like, hey, baby, are you lost?
Are you, where are you trying to go?
To a white person?
Yes, I'm like, what are you doing here?
Yes.
I'm like, are you okay?
Did somebody like
dump you here as a joke?
You'd have been the one like in the 60s,
and then on the shore when
Columbus, like, are you lost?
(01:31:47):
No, see, I'm gonna
call you out your name.
My point being, our,
they don't believe in our kind nature.
Of course we have kind nature.
No, I think they do, but okay.
No, they don't think that we, they don't
think that we're kind nature.
They think that we're afraid of them.
Well, I think they
(01:32:07):
mistake kindness for fear.
I think they count on the fact that black
people are not going to be inhumane to
them as they are to us.
I think that's what they assume.
I think that's the assumption.
You don't think so?
But they are really, they have really,
(01:32:31):
they really turned a corner.
I mean, all I can think about is myself.
I mean, I'm a pretty affable character.
You know, I, you know, I have a hello for
anybody, you know, but I feel like I'm
such a different person now.
Maybe not cynical, but
(01:32:53):
I'm just a different person.
I'm just a different person.
And I don't feel like I'm better for it.
I feel sad.
I feel sad for how this
past election has affected me,
mainly because, you
know, you had no idea.
(01:33:15):
So many people were-- That's the
government calling you that?
You wanna talk about something now?
You had no idea.
So many people were, you know,
everybody's like, well, I'm not racist.
I voted for cheap eggs.
I'm not racist.
I voted for this.
And I'm like, no, you can say you're not
racist, but what you
are is okay with racism.
(01:33:36):
So the fact that that's a conduit of this
person's behavior is just fine with you.
And okay, thank you.
Thank you for sharing this.
What I hope is that we galvanize around
this and that we become
closer as a community.
Yeah, something destroyed the system.
(01:33:59):
This system is unsustainable.
Yeah.
Beyond, you know what I mean?
Just capitalism, the way it
operates is just unsustainable.
I think.
It's the zero-sum game.
That's the problem.
Yeah.
And it's always at somebody's expense.
Yes.
Always.
(01:34:19):
In order for me to
elevate, you must fail.
Yeah.
In order for me to
acquire, I must take from you.
You must be depleted.
Yeah.
I don't know.
And then how much is too much?
Why do you need a katrillion dollars?
Like what, for what?
And you're not doing anything.
You're not helping anybody.
You know, you're not building schools.
(01:34:42):
You're not, you know,
you're not fixing the education system.
You're not helping with poverty.
I mean, you can solve
poverty and not even miss a meal.
Like, the point of having money is why?
I know.
For what?
All that money.
And then again, we've talked about this
(01:35:04):
before, but it's like, right.
And on top of which, somebody like Elon
Musk, I can't get over that.
It's just, you're literally the richest
person on earth and you've made it your
job to take money out
of people's pockets.
The least of these.
Yeah, the least of these.
So you got a- That's a soulless person.
Yeah, you got a moral deficit.
Yep.
(01:35:24):
And he said, "The biggest problem with
Americans is their empathy."
He said that.
I'm like, okay, supervillain.
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