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I'm Dwayne Kennedy, comedian. And now a
new podcast is in the podcast game
because you know what happened.
Comedy wasn't enough. Winning an Emmy
wasn't enough. Going on David Letterman
wasn't enough. Doing Conan O'Brien wasn't
enough. Doing Jimmy Kimmel wasn't enough.
Appearing on Seinfeld wasn't enough.
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Doing Totally Bias wasn't enough. They
said, "Yeah, that's all well and good,
but where's the podcast?" Here it is.
It's called the "Napsolute Truth." It's
called the "Napsolute Truth." And I'm
doing it with a dear friend of mine.
I'm a comedian. She's a fantastic jazz
singer, but also very, very intelligent,
very smart, and very opinionated.
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Very smart, very opinionated. And that's
why I thought she'd be great on this
show, Ms. Tammy X. Hey, you guys. I am so
excited to be here in support of my
friend of 30 years. It's been a minute.
Jeez Louise. But we got to play that part
down, my girl. You always say, "You know,
we just met a couple weeks ago." And I
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say, "Wow, this should be cool." I don't
think so. I don't think so. So, this is
just us bringing our regular standard
conversations to you guys. He seemed to
think that you would be interested in our
shenanigans. So, thank you. And I hope
that you enjoyed the "Napsolute Truth."
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(Upbeat Music)
Yes.
It sounded like a star of
like an Ike and Tina Turner song.
Tina, yes, yes, yes. You already know
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that song? What is it that you bring Ike
into every conversation? Do I need to
have a conversation with your significant
other? Is she being abused? You and Ike
got a t-shirt. Ike, my superhero. No, no,
no. But you know that song
where he says, "Ike, yes, Tina."
Please don't do that stuff. I have
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something provocative to say. Okay.
I'm listening.
The Republicans are
some bad motherfuckers.
I wish I could do it. Let me explain. All
right. Let me explain. All right.
I am really astonished. That consistently
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they find my party flat-footed. Your
party being? The Democratic party. Okay.
Consistently they are running laps around
them. I mean, while we're trying to
figure out what paddle to hold up, I
mean, all this time, all this... And it
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hasn't been a lot of time. That's when
they held up paddles at when Trump was
making that... I think it was a dress to
Congress. Or something. He just called a
meeting and, you know, hey... To address
his insanity. Oh, my gosh. But I'm like,
y'all haven't gotten into a gymnasium
somewhere and just like, "Hey, we're all
going to do..." These Republicans on the
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Sunday shows, they all reading off the
same memo. They all saying the same
thing. They're all lock step, lock step.
It's unbelievable. While we trying to
figure out, you know, well, you know,
we're just excited that, you know, we had
a peaceful transition of power, a
peaceful transition to chaos. Why weren't
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you somewhere scaling a wall? You've been
telling us for four years that this is
going to be the end of the world, the end
of democracy. Yeah. I mean, right. And
the fact that a lot of those Democrats go
to gyms that have those walls so they're
in shape to be able to climb them. You're
right about that, my girl. Yeah. Right.
What were they holding up? What was that
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supposed to be when he was speaking? Were
they like fans of pickleball?
I like pickleball. And then some of them
were wearing like pink. Remember that
some of the Democrats had on pink outfit
with the women, had on pink dresses.
What? Like when they had the little...
When Trump was speaking. The little Gucci
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hats. Is that different? Well, I don't
know, but I'm just saying they had some
of the Democratic women, the Congress
people... I stopped watching it. I didn't
watch it at all. I just saw some clips
where I heard they had on some pink. Like
I said, they had the pickleball paddles.
Hey, if we ever see you on a pickleball
court, you know, we're going to fuck you
up. You know what I mean? Donald Trump,
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just so you know, that we're serious. And
then some of them had on the pink
outfits, which I guess represents, I
don't know, feminism or... I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, whatever it is,
just be on the same page. I mean, I know
we're not a monolith. I know that we, you
know, as Democrats, you know, don't all
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think the same way. I'm not a Democrat
anymore. Do you... Why
are you still a Democrat?
I don't know. God damn, that's what I'm
saying. Why? Why? Why would you be...
Convince me. Why would you be... Convince
me why I should still be. Right. Or
shouldn't we be independent?
Independent of what?
Uh, apparently reality. Man, I'm telling
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you, it's crazy. It's crazy. But I'm
saying independent, independent of being
of an allegiance to any particular party
that can just take us, take a presumed
black person who's a Democratic for
granted. Yeah. Right? Hey, don't put me
in that boat. I'm independent. You know
what I mean? I might support... I don't
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know who you could support. Jill Stein is
a lunatic. Oh my God, Dwayne. Yeah. I'm
just like... I just feel... I feel so
lost. I feel like I'm just drifting
aimlessly and all I can do is position
myself not to be affected by... Not to be
hurt or affected by either one of them.
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Well, there you go. Maybe that's what it
is. Maybe that becomes a coalition.
People who pull out and then, you know,
bond with each other and then that sort
of becomes the coalition. You know?
Because like you said, I mean, what do
Democrats do? But, you know, I... This is
what I think. I don't know. But I don't
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think it's going to be anything the
Democrats do to galvanize Democrats. It's
going to be the eventual destruction of
the Republican Party based on their
procedures and policies because the way
they're going is unsustainable. You are
obviously not paying attention. Why do
you say that? It's done.
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The Republican Party isn't disintegrated.
They've decided what they believe in.
It's racism. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's their double down. But I'm saying,
though... And the comrade Trump and
his... Right. But I'm saying their
procedure, forget what you call them, the
way they're proceeding is unsustainable,
in my opinion. You know? Because at some
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point, when you're just as flagrant as
we're going to cut...
They've cut 80,000 jobs in a...
No, not the IRS. You know what I mean?
They've... All the jobs that they're
cutting, eventually even the people who
once supported them, they're going to be
like, "Look, I voted for you, not the
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cult members." They don't care. They're
going to follow Trump over a cliff. But
that's where he's headed, to the cliff.
But some of them are going to say, "Hey,
I voted for you for cheaper eggs and
cheaper gas, and now I don't even have a
job." Because of you, now I don't even
have a job at all. They're
going to be in the streets.
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Republican, former Democrats,
independents, disappointed
ex-Republicans. You know what I mean?
You're so hopeful. I don't think
that's... I don't believe that's going to
happen at all. It's going to be a
pleasant ride. It's going to be more
Luigi Mangione's out there.
You think he's the last person that's
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going to be... They just caught a cat the
other day at the
White House with a pistol.
Really? Yeah, I just saw this this
morning. I stopped
watching the news. I just see...
Once in a while, I turn on the television
and see... Because now, the news isn't
even the news. The news is like the Trump
reality show. This is the United States
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of America all over the world. There's
millions of things going on all over the
world. All they do is talk about Trump 24
hours a day. It's so
exhausting and so stupid.
They're talking to a bunch of Democrats,
like, "What did you think
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about what Trump did today?"
"We're really going to support our
constituents." "You ain't got no
constituents?" "You are not
even your own constituent!"
It's going to get worse, but at some
point, I think people will reach a
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breaking point. That's what I believe.
Even if the system has to
break, that's what has to happen.
It's already broken. This isn't
democracy. But has it
ever been democracy, really?
I cannot look at it
just in my own mind's eye.
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Democracy as a practice, this perception
of democracy... It's like the Matrix.
Exactly. All we can do is operate off of
perception. But the perception... There
is no more rule of law. No. There is no
more fact-based engagement. No.
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And that's it. You have to have a set of
facts that we all agree to in order to
move forward in a democracy, and you have
to have the rule of law, all of which has
been undermined in four years.
Fascinating. Well, but then... I think I
mentioned this before, but they said when
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Hitler was elected chancellor of Germany,
it took him 52 days to end the
democratic system in Germany.
But then the other side of it is, as
black folks, as far as fascism goes,
we've been living under a fascist rule
since we got here, since they brought
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black people here. You know what I mean?
As far as being over-policed,
hyper-policed, black folks have always
lived under a fascist rule, telling you
where you can go, what you can be, what
you can think. Black people, indigenous,
when somebody comes in and says, "You
can't worship whatever God you have. You
have to worship this one. You can't speak
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whatever language you have. You have to
speak this one." That is fascism. That's
always existed here. Always. It's now
white folks are getting a taste of the
fascism. That's so interesting. You know,
if you think about it, a lot of this
really blossomed out of COVID. Because
for the most part, that constituency was
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able to do what they want to do, go where
they want to go, say what they want to
say. Yeah, I want them to say that COVID
and Trump, that... Mm-hmm. That... That
intersection. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's
the way Trump dealt with COVID. Because
if Trump had just got in front of his
head, "Listen, there's a virus going
around, mask up," this and that, no
problem. But he took it, which is, I
think, just indicative of... He took it
personally, like, "You're not going to
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tell me what to do." You're not going to
tell me what to do. And I think just his
psychology, his pathology, is almost like
he took a virus, just the fact that a
virus would break out as a personal
failing. And he can't bear to think of
himself as a failure, which it wasn't a
failing. It's just a virus has happened.
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When Barack was... And then they have
somebody to blame. And have somebody to
blame. But when Barack was president, it
was SARS, whatever. If viruses happen,
and then you got to do this to mitigate
the virus, no problem. But with him, it's
like, "A virus came out. They're going to
blame me. I'm not..." So rather than deal
with it... Let's act like it doesn't
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exist. Yeah, remember that? "Oh, don't
worry about it. It'll be over by Easter,
like a miracle." What
are you talking about?
So he's the worst person having charge at
the worst possible time. Even now,
there's some type of outbreak of the
measles. Yeah, my God, the measles. And
they stopped all of the communications
between the... Is it the CDC? The CDC and
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all the nationwide... Yeah. Yeah. It's
wild. It's like the Twilight Zone. It is.
And he is so inept and incompetent and
dumb and stupid. But here's the thing. So
am I. I'm all those things. But on top of
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those things, don't be arrogant.
Do you know what I mean? Don't be dumb
and arrogant. Do you know what I mean?
Don't be stupid and malicious. Do you
know? That's where it becomes lethal. And
like I said, we were talking about
earlier, dangerous. That's when it
becomes dangerous. Hey, everybody's
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ignorant. But don't be ignorant and
malicious. You know what I mean? Don't be
ignorant and arrogant.
It's really going to be fascinating to
just watch how the Democrats reimagine
themselves, how they reconnect. I mean,
they are just right now just screaming
into the abyss. And I mean, I tell you,
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I'm as annoyed when I see their faces on
television as I'm annoyed when I see the
Republicans. And that's something new.
And so I don't know how I'm going to
process. But maybe that's what it has to
get to. Again, that like-minded folks
start to pull away, I said, and create
some sort of a different coalition with
different aims and procedures. You know?
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Anyway, let's talk about, you know, I
like to go hot air ballooning.
You are so white. Why would you get into
a dangerous, fire-filled wicker basket
and put your life into it? You know what?
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No, I wouldn't. But you know, they said I
saw this. First of all, I love like
TikTok and all those things, man. Some of
it is, you know, legit information. Some
of it is like just some cat. It's really
funny. Yeah, just making stuff up. TikTok
hustle. I could do that. Did you know
that in 1819? I didn't know that. And
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apparently you don't either.
But they said the first person in this
country to fly was actually a brother, 18
something, who created a hot air balloon.
And when you think about it, of course a
black person in the 1800s would be trying
to fly out of this motherfucker. Yeah,
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I'm trying to fly out of here. You know,
I think he first tried to just ran off a
cliff and flat his eye. I got to get the
fuck out of here. Then that is, I think
he came up with a hot air balloon or
something. I don't understand all of
that, like, daredevil stuff. Like, what
is that thing when you're on a wire and
you swing and you like... Zip line. Zip
line. You wouldn't catch me on a zip line
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going under the water
and scuba- Yeah. What?
Yeah. No. I tell you something that I
always- Why? Seeing. You kill yourself.
Driving and Cicero. Driving. Driving on
the Dan Ryan. I don't drive on the Dan
Ryan anymore. You know what? Do you mean
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shooting? And the Dan Ryan thanks you.
All of the Dan Ryan said, "Thank you,
Tammy." Hey, hey, I'm just saying. I
drive like my dad. I was like- How was
that? Like, I have a little light on top
of my car. Oh, that you- Like, I'm a
police officer and I can just- Oh, okay.
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Oh, okay. You drive hard. Are you driving
like somebody with a cat laser? You know
how they have this laser and the cat-
Make the cat change the- No. I mean, I,
you know. Yeah. The road is yours. The
road is mine. And some of the sidewalk.
And some of the sidewalk. Yes, it is. But
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I was going to tell you- What was I going
to tell you that made me think about-
Ah, dang it.
What were we talking about? We were
talking about- What were we talking
about? Black- Oh, I know what it was. I
know what it was. I know what it was.
My girl. What?
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Can I say what I want to say? I can say
what I want to say what I want to say.
Yeah, I know. I know you can't Grandma
Moses, but listen- Shut up.
What were we talking about?
You get older and older and- Why you
always breaking my balls though? That's
fun. See, this is what it's like. Yeah.
But okay. I was- The thing that has
always intrigued me. I don't know if I'll
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ever do it. I probably won't. As you've
seen these cats with these wing suits.
Oh, man. That's insane.
That looks so cool. But let me tell you
this story. Yeah, dying. Wow. Well, there
was this cat named Jeb
Corliss. Jeb Corliss was a-
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or is, I don't say was. Like a stunt guy.
He does wing suits and base jumping and
all that stuff. Right?
He said one day, he and
his dear friend Dwayne,
they were going to go
wing suiting. Right?
So he said there was something about that
day. It was just something was just off.
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Something just, you know, was off. He
said, but you know, let's go. Let's do
this. Because you know, that's- You got
to give this to white folks. Whether it's
off or not off. They're going to push
through. You know what? Seemless people's
country don't seem like the right thing
to do. But let's finish doing it. We'll
talk about it later. After we steal it,
then we'll feel bad about it. But we're
going to take this country.
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So he said, you know, like I said,
something just didn't feel right. We're
going to go through with it. So they wing
suit or they get the wing suits on. And I
think they- Oh, and this is what they
were going to do. The plan that day was
there was this bridge.
And the plan was, okay, I'm going to fly-
I think Jeb was going to fly over it. My
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man Dwayne was going to fly under it.
That was the plan. So all day, something
just didn't feel right. But again, you
got to give this. White folks going to
complete the mission. I don't feel good
about it, but let's do it.
They jump out. They're flying.
Wing suit. Heading toward the bridge.
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Jeb flies over the bridge like, man, my
man Dwayne. Boom! Right into the bridge
at about 100 miles an hour.
That brother exploded. Yeah.
So he doesn't fly anymore. But-
So that kind of diminished my enthusiasm.
With a cat named Dwayne, like such as
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myself, he spelled it the same way. Not
the way Dwayne ways spells
his name, which is wrong.
But also, he had a wing suit. Dwayne.
Yeah. You know, his name spelled like
Dwayne. It's like D-W-Y-A-N-E. That
doesn't spell Dwayne. It
spells Dwayne. But anyway.
So he- Yeah, so he flew into the bridge.
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And that, I say that to say, that
diminished my enthusiasm. It took that to
diminish your enthusiasm. Not jumping off
a cliff in a bird suit. No, sometimes it
takes a white flying into a bridge to
make you rethink some things. A wise man
learns from another man's mistakes. I
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learn from my man's. And I am blank. It
only- yeah. Dukes, I sit here on the
beach. Yeah, we don't need two- We do
libation. And- We don't need two Dwayne's
exploding. No, we don't.
Well, what is the riskiest thing you ever
did, like physically?
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My husband convinced me to do this like
scuba thing. Whoa, you did? So there's
this thing at these resorts where in the
old days of scuba diving, they put this-
it was a suit. And they put this big
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round thing on your head and they twist
it on it, right? So following that
premise, they have this- they're going to
take you down about 20 feet. Where were
you at? And they have- I think Mexico.
Okay. And they have this like- not
amusement park, but they have this thing
laid out for you. Where you're going to
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hold onto the railing and here comes some
sea turtles and here comes this fish.
Where a railing is underwater?
Underwater. Oh, wow. They make like a
little park, a little park underwater.
And you're just going to follow along and
they're going to push this in front of
you. And they're going to push that. And
there's people there- Did they push any
like dead cartel people?
Okay. I digress. My fault.
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So the thing is that it's an air suction.
So it's going to put it on your shoulders
and the suction is going to keep all of
this clear. And the water is supposed to
stay here. You know, whatever type of
scientific shit they did, they figured
this shit out. I don't know. But come on,
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this will be fun. I really don't want to.
It's okay. I really don't want to do
that. No, come on, it'll be fun. And
they're telling me, oh no, it's really
easy. It's normal. Did I mention I can't
swim? Oh, boy. So it's like, come on,
it'll be fun. It's so easy. So they put
the thing on me and I'm going down the
stairs and the water is here. Oh, boy.
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And so all this is over, right? So I'm
going down the stairs. I'm going down the
stairs. I start walking along the ramp.
You can look up and see there's water.
You can see the light, but it's like
really far up there. So I'm walking
along. And as I'm walking, I'm like, this
is the water coming up to my neck. And
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I'm like, and so there's a guy down there
that you can communicate to if you have a
problem, like you do like a thing. Hey, I
have a problem. And I'm like, and I'm
trying not to really move too much
because it's like, and I'm like,
I have a problem. I have a problem. And
I'm waving. I'm waving.
And he's like, he sees me. Sorry. My
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husband. My husband sees me and he's
like, hey, she needs help. She needs
help. And so this guy walks up to me and
by now the water's here. Whoa. And I'm
like, you start to panic. I want to go
up. I want to go up. And so I'm looking
up like if I take this thing off, can I
hold my breath long enough to get up
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there? Now, I can't swim. I was going to
say, I've never been this deep in the
water in my life. And here's the water.
And I'm like, I want to go up. And the
guy grabs my thing and he's like, you're
OK. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And he was
like, you're OK. And so he's like,
straighten your bank. So he has me like--
apparently it was a posture issue.
The fuck. It was a posture issue. Stand
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up straight. Don't be going down.
Straighten your back. What is somebody
telling me this is what I was putting
feet up in this little fucker. You can't
be deep sea diving with scoliosis. Oh my
god. Straighten your back. Straighten
your back. So I straighten my back and
then go down here. And I'm like, OK. He's
like, I got you. Don't worry. Let's just
keep going. I'm like, I really don't want
to do that. I really just want to go.
He's like, you're OK. OK. OK. And I'm
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like, OK. OK. So I'm holding on. And I
think it's like, you know, we're almost
finished. And I'm like, I'm in a flop
sweat right now just thinking about this.
And so he's like, we're going. We're
going. And so then here comes a sea
turtle. I don't want to talk to you. Sea
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turtle. And so they're like, take a
picture. I'm like, take a picture.
They like take a camera. And they put the
two helmets together. And I'm like--
(Laughter) Like when those kids crying on
the mother's side. Oh my god. We got this
national lampoon second honeymoon. Oh
man. I tell you, everything about that
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was crazy. You got to bring that picture
in. Oh my god. It was so crazy. I got to
see that. So I finally made it to the
top. I mean, everything, but everything
was terrible. Let's ride a horse. I don't
want to ride a horse. Let's do this.
Let's take the horse into the ocean. They
can swim. Can't they really? I can't
swim. And then the horse is teetering.
And how's the horse supposed to save you?
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Oh my god. Wow. So you did a lot of risky
things. It was the worst for the very
last time. Fooling around with that man
of mine. For the very last time. Wow. So
man, that was pretty brave of you though.
You know, water man. I can't swim either.
I mean, I don't put it this way. I do not
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swim well enough to tell people I can
swim. I always, I cannot swim. Oh really?
Yeah, because I don't want nobody
throwing me in the ocean. I didn't know
that brother said, I didn't know he said
he could swim. That's why I threw him in.
You know what I mean? I know he meant
swim to the bottom. No, that's a woo.
That made me. Man. Man. So once you
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straightened up, you know what?
Metaphorically, that's our issue with
wipe-off. When we straighten up, we won't
be drowning. Looking straight in the eye.
We got to straighten up. That was a good
one Tammy. Straighten up and fly right.
You got that right. Yeah.
You got that right. Yeah.
Straighten up and fly right. Yeah.
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Straighten up man. That was a good one.
That was a good one. That was an allegory
for life. You got to straighten up.
That made me feel better. You're dying
almost helped me and helped me out. Well,
you know, you learned from another man's
mistake. Boy. That
mistake. So let me ask you this.
Would there be any other thing of
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physical endeavor that
you might entertain doing?
Like you fly all the time. Here's the
thing you do. People sometimes are
inadvertently brave. You know what I
mean? Because not there's some people who
would never fly. You fly all the time.
Yeah, that's true. This with all these
plane crashes and near misses. And near
misses. Ever since the mania I got back
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back in the office. Getting on that
plane. Getting on the plane overseas was
was just a leap of faith. And that's and
that's all you can do every day. Because
you flew all the way to Switzerland. All
you can do is just be faithful. I saw a
lady on on Tiggitytock. She came into the
plane and took out some praying oil and
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put some praying oil on the plane and
like, okay, Lord, it's me. You let's go.
You know, I thought that was so funny.
But really, that's all it's about. I
mean, what if it's going to happen up
there? It'll happen down here. And so
just it'll be a little bit more
terrifying. But, you know, just keep it
moving. I always find that sort of not I
would say ridiculous. But when people
like do that thing about, you know, what
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they say, God takes you in God's time if
there's God. But the thing is, if you
want to play white, you know, I mean,
it's like this month. And now we all got
to go because it's your turn. It's Joe's.
Yeah. I never got that.
And now you mad at him all the way down.
You have to be the live your life better.
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Now I got to go. You know, now I'm going
to make it to Thanksgiving dinner. You
know me. Just because you was out of orgy
last night. That's funny. And man, I
don't know that. You know, you should do
that for a living. You should be a
comedian. You know what, Tammy, that's
funny. You should say that. But first I'm
going to do a podcast and then I'm going
to start a catering business and then I'm
going to make shoes and then I'm going to
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run a marathon. And then that way you'll
know that I do comedy.
That's how it works
nowadays. Dwayne the cobbler.
What's up, everybody? Who likes shoes?
You ever notice how you wanted the one
with the heel? Listen, you know, life is
a trip. Hold on. Size
eight. Right. You know, life.
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Oh, boy.
Yeah. It's bad. I was a bad enough. You
sell merch at your shows. No, you got to
start selling merch, Tammy. I sell
t-shirts. I'm selling this one after our
show. I'm going to try to
sell it to you. Thank you.
We should have some t-shirts. We're going
to have everything. We got merch coming.
We have merch. We have t-shirts and
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coffee cups. We're going to have all of
that. Comrade Trump.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The
absolute truth. Do rags.
Okay. Oh, absolute truth.
What are those things? Bonnets.
Bonnets. We have an absolute truth. Yeah.
But what was I telling
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you? What was I talking about?
Oh, bravery. Are you brave?
It-- I'm afraid so. You're afraid that
you are brave? Yeah. Why you say afraid
so? I feel like there are
some people that are like--
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I am not brave. Like running to burning
buildings, that type of brain. And I'm
like-- Would you do that? I put myself in
very interesting situations. But it's
usually due to advocacy. And that's why I
said I think so. I'm not sure. So it's
like-- Like you could do something on
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somebody's behalf more so than you would
even do it for yourself? Yeah. Yeah. I
feel like, you know-- I cannot do
something for myself or on somebody's
behalf. I'm not doing anything for
anybody, including myself. That's how
much of a punk I am. That Dwayne Kennedy,
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he's a profile in cowardice. No. No. No,
the bravest thing I ever
did was get on a stage.
That's the-- you know what I mean? Just
come up on a stage. That's interesting. I
guess when I think about bravery-- I'm a
shy person. I'm a shy. Yeah. Yeah. When I
think about-- you know that thing about
knees knocking? Uh-huh. That's a real
thing. When they're like, your knees
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knock? Yeah. I think people don't know
that's a real thing. OK. I mean, at least
I've had that experience. I was going to
say-- So I don't see going on stage as
being brave. I see it as like-- yeah. I
see it as making a connection. Wait a
minute. So you're saying that you have
never been afraid to go on stage? Oh,
yeah. Yeah, but I mean-- That's what I'm
saying. But being afraid to be on stage
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is really just about,
will they dig what I'm doing? Well, it's
ego. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see that as me
being caught up in my own ego rather than
focusing on-- focus on the music. Focus
on being a craftsman and executing your
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pathway like you're supposed to. I mean,
I'm very adamant about how you--
I'm adamant about being a craftsman and
getting better. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I
think that's the-- I mean, I don't want
to speak for you. That's the beautiful
thing. I think about art and being an
artist is that the journey never ends.
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There's always things to
learn and discover. Yeah.
What's the most afraid you've
ever been on a stage, though?
The most afraid I've
ever been on a stage.
I would have to say as a young person, I
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sing classical music.
And I sang my first opera when I was like
15 years old. Oh,
wow. I didn't know that.
And in this particular opera, I'm on
stage the entire time. So I'm singing
with the chorus. I'm singing with other
people. I have a duet with this person,
duet with that person, trio. But I'm on
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the stage the entire time. Oh, wow. And
so that would have been, I think, my
scariest moment of like, can I do this?
Yeah, you had to carry the whole show.
Nah, I don't know about that. But I know
that I had to have the stamina. And then
fast forward to my first time, you know,
moving into the jazz realm was also
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really kind of nerve wracking. But I
mean, I always had really great mentors
who really centered me and had me focus
on what was important, you know, which
was always the music. Serve the music.
You can't go wrong. OK, well, that's
great. I mean, I have what we're talking
about. I want to I want to come back to
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this, but we won't have time today
because we don't wrap it up. But listen,
everybody. Appreciate you all listening
to the absolute truth. And hopefully you
will like and subscribe and we'll be
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podcasts or wherever you get your rumors
or hearsay. I don't know where that is.
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But join us. We're going to be we'll be
back God willing next week. And you and
we will tell you about some things that
are on our mind. And that's the absolute
(Upbeat Music)
I'm Dwayne Kennedy, comedian. And now a
new podcast is in the podcast game
because you know what happened.
Comedy wasn't enough. Winning an Emmy
wasn't enough. Going on David Letterman
wasn't enough. Doing Conan O'Brien wasn't
enough. Doing Jimmy Kimmel wasn't enough.
Appearing on Seinfeld wasn't enough.
(01:00:21):
Doing Totally Bias wasn't enough. They
said, "Yeah, that's all well and good,
but where's the podcast?" Here it is.
It's called the "Napsolute Truth." It's
called the "Napsolute Truth." And I'm
doing it with a dear friend of mine.
I'm a comedian. She's a fantastic jazz
singer, but also very, very intelligent,
very smart, and very opinionated.
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Very smart, very opinionated. And that's
why I thought she'd be great on this
show, Ms. Tammy X. Hey, you guys. I am so
excited to be here in support of my
friend of 30 years. It's been a minute.
Jeez Louise. But we got to play that part
down, my girl. You always say, "You know,
we just met a couple weeks ago." And I
(01:01:04):
say, "Wow, this should be cool." I don't
think so. I don't think so. So, this is
just us bringing our regular standard
conversations to you guys. He seemed to
think that you would be interested in our
shenanigans. So, thank you. And I hope
that you enjoyed the "Napsolute Truth."
(01:01:24):
(Upbeat Music)
Yes.
It sounded like a star of
like an Ike and Tina Turner song.
Tina, yes, yes, yes. You already know
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that song? What is it that you bring Ike
into every conversation? Do I need to
have a conversation with your significant
other? Is she being abused? You and Ike
got a t-shirt. Ike, my superhero. No, no,
no. But you know that song
where he says, "Ike, yes, Tina."
Please don't do that stuff. I have
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something provocative to say. Okay.
I'm listening.
The Republicans are
some bad motherfuckers.
I wish I could do it. Let me explain. All
right. Let me explain. All right.
I am really astonished. That consistently
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they find my party flat-footed. Your
party being? The Democratic party. Okay.
Consistently they are running laps around
them. I mean, while we're trying to
figure out what paddle to hold up, I
mean, all this time, all this... And it
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hasn't been a lot of time. That's when
they held up paddles at when Trump was
making that... I think it was a dress to
Congress. Or something. He just called a
meeting and, you know, hey... To address
his insanity. Oh, my gosh. But I'm like,
y'all haven't gotten into a gymnasium
somewhere and just like, "Hey, we're all
going to do..." These Republicans on the
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Sunday shows, they all reading off the
same memo. They all saying the same
thing. They're all lock step, lock step.
It's unbelievable. While we trying to
figure out, you know, well, you know,
we're just excited that, you know, we had
a peaceful transition of power, a
peaceful transition to chaos. Why weren't
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you somewhere scaling a wall? You've been
telling us for four years that this is
going to be the end of the world, the end
of democracy. Yeah. I mean, right. And
the fact that a lot of those Democrats go
to gyms that have those walls so they're
in shape to be able to climb them. You're
right about that, my girl. Yeah. Right.
What were they holding up? What was that
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supposed to be when he was speaking? Were
they like fans of pickleball?
I like pickleball. And then some of them
were wearing like pink. Remember that
some of the Democrats had on pink outfit
with the women, had on pink dresses.
What? Like when they had the little...
When Trump was speaking. The little Gucci
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hats. Is that different? Well, I don't
know, but I'm just saying they had some
of the Democratic women, the Congress
people... I stopped watching it. I didn't
watch it at all. I just saw some clips
where I heard they had on some pink. Like
I said, they had the pickleball paddles.
Hey, if we ever see you on a pickleball
court, you know, we're going to fuck you
up. You know what I mean? Donald Trump,
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just so you know, that we're serious. And
then some of them had on the pink
outfits, which I guess represents, I
don't know, feminism or... I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, whatever it is,
just be on the same page. I mean, I know
we're not a monolith. I know that we, you
know, as Democrats, you know, don't all
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think the same way. I'm not a Democrat
anymore. Do you... Why
are you still a Democrat?
I don't know. God damn, that's what I'm
saying. Why? Why? Why would you be...
Convince me. Why would you be... Convince
me why I should still be. Right. Or
shouldn't we be independent?
Independent of what?
Uh, apparently reality. Man, I'm telling
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you, it's crazy. It's crazy. But I'm
saying independent, independent of being
of an allegiance to any particular party
that can just take us, take a presumed
black person who's a Democratic for
granted. Yeah. Right? Hey, don't put me
in that boat. I'm independent. You know
what I mean? I might support... I don't
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know who you could support. Jill Stein is
a lunatic. Oh my God, Dwayne. Yeah. I'm
just like... I just feel... I feel so
lost. I feel like I'm just drifting
aimlessly and all I can do is position
myself not to be affected by... Not to be
hurt or affected by either one of them.
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Well, there you go. Maybe that's what it
is. Maybe that becomes a coalition.
People who pull out and then, you know,
bond with each other and then that sort
of becomes the coalition. You know?
Because like you said, I mean, what do
Democrats do? But, you know, I... This is
what I think. I don't know. But I don't
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think it's going to be anything the
Democrats do to galvanize Democrats. It's
going to be the eventual destruction of
the Republican Party based on their
procedures and policies because the way
they're going is unsustainable. You are
obviously not paying attention. Why do
you say that? It's done.
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The Republican Party isn't disintegrated.
They've decided what they believe in.
It's racism. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's their double down. But I'm saying,
though... And the comrade Trump and
his... Right. But I'm saying their
procedure, forget what you call them, the
way they're proceeding is unsustainable,
in my opinion. You know? Because at some
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point, when you're just as flagrant as
we're going to cut...
They've cut 80,000 jobs in a...
No, not the IRS. You know what I mean?
They've... All the jobs that they're
cutting, eventually even the people who
once supported them, they're going to be
like, "Look, I voted for you, not the
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cult members." They don't care. They're
going to follow Trump over a cliff. But
that's where he's headed, to the cliff.
But some of them are going to say, "Hey,
I voted for you for cheaper eggs and
cheaper gas, and now I don't even have a
job." Because of you, now I don't even
have a job at all. They're
going to be in the streets.
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Republican, former Democrats,
independents, disappointed
ex-Republicans. You know what I mean?
You're so hopeful. I don't think
that's... I don't believe that's going to
happen at all. It's going to be a
pleasant ride. It's going to be more
Luigi Mangione's out there.
You think he's the last person that's
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going to be... They just caught a cat the
other day at the
White House with a pistol.
Really? Yeah, I just saw this this
morning. I stopped
watching the news. I just see...
Once in a while, I turn on the television
and see... Because now, the news isn't
even the news. The news is like the Trump
reality show. This is the United States
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of America all over the world. There's
millions of things going on all over the
world. All they do is talk about Trump 24
hours a day. It's so
exhausting and so stupid.
They're talking to a bunch of Democrats,
like, "What did you think
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about what Trump did today?"
"We're really going to support our
constituents." "You ain't got no
constituents?" "You are not
even your own constituent!"
It's going to get worse, but at some
point, I think people will reach a
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breaking point. That's what I believe.
Even if the system has to
break, that's what has to happen.
It's already broken. This isn't
democracy. But has it
ever been democracy, really?
I cannot look at it
just in my own mind's eye.
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Democracy as a practice, this perception
of democracy... It's like the Matrix.
Exactly. All we can do is operate off of
perception. But the perception... There
is no more rule of law. No. There is no
more fact-based engagement. No.
(01:10:05):
And that's it. You have to have a set of
facts that we all agree to in order to
move forward in a democracy, and you have
to have the rule of law, all of which has
been undermined in four years.
Fascinating. Well, but then... I think I
mentioned this before, but they said when
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Hitler was elected chancellor of Germany,
it took him 52 days to end the
democratic system in Germany.
But then the other side of it is, as
black folks, as far as fascism goes,
we've been living under a fascist rule
since we got here, since they brought
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black people here. You know what I mean?
As far as being over-policed,
hyper-policed, black folks have always
lived under a fascist rule, telling you
where you can go, what you can be, what
you can think. Black people, indigenous,
when somebody comes in and says, "You
can't worship whatever God you have. You
have to worship this one. You can't speak
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whatever language you have. You have to
speak this one." That is fascism. That's
always existed here. Always. It's now
white folks are getting a taste of the
fascism. That's so interesting. You know,
if you think about it, a lot of this
really blossomed out of COVID. Because
for the most part, that constituency was
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able to do what they want to do, go where
they want to go, say what they want to
say. Yeah, I want them to say that COVID
and Trump, that... Mm-hmm. That... That
intersection. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's
the way Trump dealt with COVID. Because
if Trump had just got in front of his
head, "Listen, there's a virus going
around, mask up," this and that, no
problem. But he took it, which is, I
think, just indicative of... He took it
personally, like, "You're not going to
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tell me what to do." You're not going to
tell me what to do. And I think just his
psychology, his pathology, is almost like
he took a virus, just the fact that a
virus would break out as a personal
failing. And he can't bear to think of
himself as a failure, which it wasn't a
failing. It's just a virus has happened.
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When Barack was... And then they have
somebody to blame. And have somebody to
blame. But when Barack was president, it
was SARS, whatever. If viruses happen,
and then you got to do this to mitigate
the virus, no problem. But with him, it's
like, "A virus came out. They're going to
blame me. I'm not..." So rather than deal
with it... Let's act like it doesn't
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exist. Yeah, remember that? "Oh, don't
worry about it. It'll be over by Easter,
like a miracle." What
are you talking about?
So he's the worst person having charge at
the worst possible time. Even now,
there's some type of outbreak of the
measles. Yeah, my God, the measles. And
they stopped all of the communications
between the... Is it the CDC? The CDC and
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all the nationwide... Yeah. Yeah. It's
wild. It's like the Twilight Zone. It is.
And he is so inept and incompetent and
dumb and stupid. But here's the thing. So
am I. I'm all those things. But on top of
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those things, don't be arrogant.
Do you know what I mean? Don't be dumb
and arrogant. Do you know what I mean?
Don't be stupid and malicious. Do you
know? That's where it becomes lethal. And
like I said, we were talking about
earlier, dangerous. That's when it
becomes dangerous. Hey, everybody's
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ignorant. But don't be ignorant and
malicious. You know what I mean? Don't be
ignorant and arrogant.
It's really going to be fascinating to
just watch how the Democrats reimagine
themselves, how they reconnect. I mean,
they are just right now just screaming
into the abyss. And I mean, I tell you,
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I'm as annoyed when I see their faces on
television as I'm annoyed when I see the
Republicans. And that's something new.
And so I don't know how I'm going to
process. But maybe that's what it has to
get to. Again, that like-minded folks
start to pull away, I said, and create
some sort of a different coalition with
different aims and procedures. You know?
(01:14:25):
Anyway, let's talk about, you know, I
like to go hot air ballooning.
You are so white. Why would you get into
a dangerous, fire-filled wicker basket
and put your life into it? You know what?
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No, I wouldn't. But you know, they said I
saw this. First of all, I love like
TikTok and all those things, man. Some of
it is, you know, legit information. Some
of it is like just some cat. It's really
funny. Yeah, just making stuff up. TikTok
hustle. I could do that. Did you know
that in 1819? I didn't know that. And
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apparently you don't either.
But they said the first person in this
country to fly was actually a brother, 18
something, who created a hot air balloon.
And when you think about it, of course a
black person in the 1800s would be trying
to fly out of this motherfucker. Yeah,
(01:15:28):
I'm trying to fly out of here. You know,
I think he first tried to just ran off a
cliff and flat his eye. I got to get the
fuck out of here. Then that is, I think
he came up with a hot air balloon or
something. I don't understand all of
that, like, daredevil stuff. Like, what
is that thing when you're on a wire and
you swing and you like... Zip line. Zip
line. You wouldn't catch me on a zip line
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going under the water
and scuba- Yeah. What?
Yeah. No. I tell you something that I
always- Why? Seeing. You kill yourself.
Driving and Cicero. Driving. Driving on
the Dan Ryan. I don't drive on the Dan
Ryan anymore. You know what? Do you mean
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shooting? And the Dan Ryan thanks you.
All of the Dan Ryan said, "Thank you,
Tammy." Hey, hey, I'm just saying. I
drive like my dad. I was like- How was
that? Like, I have a little light on top
of my car. Oh, that you- Like, I'm a
police officer and I can just- Oh, okay.
(01:16:33):
Oh, okay. You drive hard. Are you driving
like somebody with a cat laser? You know
how they have this laser and the cat-
Make the cat change the- No. I mean, I,
you know. Yeah. The road is yours. The
road is mine. And some of the sidewalk.
And some of the sidewalk. Yes, it is. But
(01:16:54):
I was going to tell you- What was I going
to tell you that made me think about-
Ah, dang it.
What were we talking about? We were
talking about- What were we talking
about? Black- Oh, I know what it was. I
know what it was. I know what it was.
My girl. What?
(01:17:15):
Can I say what I want to say? I can say
what I want to say what I want to say.
Yeah, I know. I know you can't Grandma
Moses, but listen- Shut up.
What were we talking about?
You get older and older and- Why you
always breaking my balls though? That's
fun. See, this is what it's like. Yeah.
But okay. I was- The thing that has
always intrigued me. I don't know if I'll
(01:17:37):
ever do it. I probably won't. As you've
seen these cats with these wing suits.
Oh, man. That's insane.
That looks so cool. But let me tell you
this story. Yeah, dying. Wow. Well, there
was this cat named Jeb
Corliss. Jeb Corliss was a-
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or is, I don't say was. Like a stunt guy.
He does wing suits and base jumping and
all that stuff. Right?
He said one day, he and
his dear friend Dwayne,
they were going to go
wing suiting. Right?
So he said there was something about that
day. It was just something was just off.
(01:18:23):
Something just, you know, was off. He
said, but you know, let's go. Let's do
this. Because you know, that's- You got
to give this to white folks. Whether it's
off or not off. They're going to push
through. You know what? Seemless people's
country don't seem like the right thing
to do. But let's finish doing it. We'll
talk about it later. After we steal it,
then we'll feel bad about it. But we're
going to take this country.
(01:18:43):
So he said, you know, like I said,
something just didn't feel right. We're
going to go through with it. So they wing
suit or they get the wing suits on. And I
think they- Oh, and this is what they
were going to do. The plan that day was
there was this bridge.
And the plan was, okay, I'm going to fly-
I think Jeb was going to fly over it. My
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man Dwayne was going to fly under it.
That was the plan. So all day, something
just didn't feel right. But again, you
got to give this. White folks going to
complete the mission. I don't feel good
about it, but let's do it.
They jump out. They're flying.
Wing suit. Heading toward the bridge.
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Jeb flies over the bridge like, man, my
man Dwayne. Boom! Right into the bridge
at about 100 miles an hour.
That brother exploded. Yeah.
So he doesn't fly anymore. But-
So that kind of diminished my enthusiasm.
With a cat named Dwayne, like such as
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myself, he spelled it the same way. Not
the way Dwayne ways spells
his name, which is wrong.
But also, he had a wing suit. Dwayne.
Yeah. You know, his name spelled like
Dwayne. It's like D-W-Y-A-N-E. That
doesn't spell Dwayne. It
spells Dwayne. But anyway.
So he- Yeah, so he flew into the bridge.
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And that, I say that to say, that
diminished my enthusiasm. It took that to
diminish your enthusiasm. Not jumping off
a cliff in a bird suit. No, sometimes it
takes a white flying into a bridge to
make you rethink some things. A wise man
learns from another man's mistakes. I
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learn from my man's. And I am blank. It
only- yeah. Dukes, I sit here on the
beach. Yeah, we don't need two- We do
libation. And- We don't need two Dwayne's
exploding. No, we don't.
Well, what is the riskiest thing you ever
did, like physically?
(01:20:51):
My husband convinced me to do this like
scuba thing. Whoa, you did? So there's
this thing at these resorts where in the
old days of scuba diving, they put this-
it was a suit. And they put this big
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round thing on your head and they twist
it on it, right? So following that
premise, they have this- they're going to
take you down about 20 feet. Where were
you at? And they have- I think Mexico.
Okay. And they have this like- not
amusement park, but they have this thing
laid out for you. Where you're going to
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hold onto the railing and here comes some
sea turtles and here comes this fish.
Where a railing is underwater?
Underwater. Oh, wow. They make like a
little park, a little park underwater.
And you're just going to follow along and
they're going to push this in front of
you. And they're going to push that. And
there's people there- Did they push any
like dead cartel people?
Okay. I digress. My fault.
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So the thing is that it's an air suction.
So it's going to put it on your shoulders
and the suction is going to keep all of
this clear. And the water is supposed to
stay here. You know, whatever type of
scientific shit they did, they figured
this shit out. I don't know. But come on,
(01:22:18):
this will be fun. I really don't want to.
It's okay. I really don't want to do
that. No, come on, it'll be fun. And
they're telling me, oh no, it's really
easy. It's normal. Did I mention I can't
swim? Oh, boy. So it's like, come on,
it'll be fun. It's so easy. So they put
the thing on me and I'm going down the
stairs and the water is here. Oh, boy.
(01:22:41):
And so all this is over, right? So I'm
going down the stairs. I'm going down the
stairs. I start walking along the ramp.
You can look up and see there's water.
You can see the light, but it's like
really far up there. So I'm walking
along. And as I'm walking, I'm like, this
is the water coming up to my neck. And
(01:23:01):
I'm like, and so there's a guy down there
that you can communicate to if you have a
problem, like you do like a thing. Hey, I
have a problem. And I'm like, and I'm
trying not to really move too much
because it's like, and I'm like,
I have a problem. I have a problem. And
I'm waving. I'm waving.
And he's like, he sees me. Sorry. My
(01:23:24):
husband. My husband sees me and he's
like, hey, she needs help. She needs
help. And so this guy walks up to me and
by now the water's here. Whoa. And I'm
like, you start to panic. I want to go
up. I want to go up. And so I'm looking
up like if I take this thing off, can I
hold my breath long enough to get up
(01:23:45):
there? Now, I can't swim. I was going to
say, I've never been this deep in the
water in my life. And here's the water.
And I'm like, I want to go up. And the
guy grabs my thing and he's like, you're
OK. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And he was
like, you're OK. And so he's like,
straighten your bank. So he has me like--
apparently it was a posture issue.
The fuck. It was a posture issue. Stand
(01:24:08):
up straight. Don't be going down.
Straighten your back. What is somebody
telling me this is what I was putting
feet up in this little fucker. You can't
be deep sea diving with scoliosis. Oh my
god. Straighten your back. Straighten
your back. So I straighten my back and
then go down here. And I'm like, OK. He's
like, I got you. Don't worry. Let's just
keep going. I'm like, I really don't want
to do that. I really just want to go.
He's like, you're OK. OK. OK. And I'm
(01:24:31):
like, OK. OK. So I'm holding on. And I
think it's like, you know, we're almost
finished. And I'm like, I'm in a flop
sweat right now just thinking about this.
And so he's like, we're going. We're
going. And so then here comes a sea
turtle. I don't want to talk to you. Sea
(01:24:51):
turtle. And so they're like, take a
picture. I'm like, take a picture.
They like take a camera. And they put the
two helmets together. And I'm like--
(Laughter) Like when those kids crying on
the mother's side. Oh my god. We got this
national lampoon second honeymoon. Oh
man. I tell you, everything about that
(01:25:13):
was crazy. You got to bring that picture
in. Oh my god. It was so crazy. I got to
see that. So I finally made it to the
top. I mean, everything, but everything
was terrible. Let's ride a horse. I don't
want to ride a horse. Let's do this.
Let's take the horse into the ocean. They
can swim. Can't they really? I can't
swim. And then the horse is teetering.
And how's the horse supposed to save you?
(01:25:35):
Oh my god. Wow. So you did a lot of risky
things. It was the worst for the very
last time. Fooling around with that man
of mine. For the very last time. Wow. So
man, that was pretty brave of you though.
You know, water man. I can't swim either.
I mean, I don't put it this way. I do not
(01:25:56):
swim well enough to tell people I can
swim. I always, I cannot swim. Oh really?
Yeah, because I don't want nobody
throwing me in the ocean. I didn't know
that brother said, I didn't know he said
he could swim. That's why I threw him in.
You know what I mean? I know he meant
swim to the bottom. No, that's a woo.
That made me. Man. Man. So once you
(01:26:18):
straightened up, you know what?
Metaphorically, that's our issue with
wipe-off. When we straighten up, we won't
be drowning. Looking straight in the eye.
We got to straighten up. That was a good
one Tammy. Straighten up and fly right.
You got that right. Yeah.
You got that right. Yeah.
Straighten up and fly right. Yeah.
(01:26:40):
Straighten up man. That was a good one.
That was a good one. That was an allegory
for life. You got to straighten up.
That made me feel better. You're dying
almost helped me and helped me out. Well,
you know, you learned from another man's
mistake. Boy. That
mistake. So let me ask you this.
Would there be any other thing of
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physical endeavor that
you might entertain doing?
Like you fly all the time. Here's the
thing you do. People sometimes are
inadvertently brave. You know what I
mean? Because not there's some people who
would never fly. You fly all the time.
Yeah, that's true. This with all these
plane crashes and near misses. And near
misses. Ever since the mania I got back
(01:27:22):
back in the office. Getting on that
plane. Getting on the plane overseas was
was just a leap of faith. And that's and
that's all you can do every day. Because
you flew all the way to Switzerland. All
you can do is just be faithful. I saw a
lady on on Tiggitytock. She came into the
plane and took out some praying oil and
(01:27:44):
put some praying oil on the plane and
like, okay, Lord, it's me. You let's go.
You know, I thought that was so funny.
But really, that's all it's about. I
mean, what if it's going to happen up
there? It'll happen down here. And so
just it'll be a little bit more
terrifying. But, you know, just keep it
moving. I always find that sort of not I
would say ridiculous. But when people
like do that thing about, you know, what
(01:28:06):
they say, God takes you in God's time if
there's God. But the thing is, if you
want to play white, you know, I mean,
it's like this month. And now we all got
to go because it's your turn. It's Joe's.
Yeah. I never got that.
And now you mad at him all the way down.
You have to be the live your life better.
(01:28:27):
Now I got to go. You know, now I'm going
to make it to Thanksgiving dinner. You
know me. Just because you was out of orgy
last night. That's funny. And man, I
don't know that. You know, you should do
that for a living. You should be a
comedian. You know what, Tammy, that's
funny. You should say that. But first I'm
going to do a podcast and then I'm going
to start a catering business and then I'm
going to make shoes and then I'm going to
(01:28:48):
run a marathon. And then that way you'll
know that I do comedy.
That's how it works
nowadays. Dwayne the cobbler.
What's up, everybody? Who likes shoes?
You ever notice how you wanted the one
with the heel? Listen, you know, life is
a trip. Hold on. Size
eight. Right. You know, life.
(01:29:09):
Oh, boy.
Yeah. It's bad. I was a bad enough. You
sell merch at your shows. No, you got to
start selling merch, Tammy. I sell
t-shirts. I'm selling this one after our
show. I'm going to try to
sell it to you. Thank you.
We should have some t-shirts. We're going
to have everything. We got merch coming.
We have merch. We have t-shirts and
(01:29:31):
coffee cups. We're going to have all of
that. Comrade Trump.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The
absolute truth. Do rags.
Okay. Oh, absolute truth.
What are those things? Bonnets.
Bonnets. We have an absolute truth. Yeah.
But what was I telling
(01:29:52):
you? What was I talking about?
Oh, bravery. Are you brave?
It-- I'm afraid so. You're afraid that
you are brave? Yeah. Why you say afraid
so? I feel like there are
some people that are like--
(01:30:12):
I am not brave. Like running to burning
buildings, that type of brain. And I'm
like-- Would you do that? I put myself in
very interesting situations. But it's
usually due to advocacy. And that's why I
said I think so. I'm not sure. So it's
like-- Like you could do something on
(01:30:32):
somebody's behalf more so than you would
even do it for yourself? Yeah. Yeah. I
feel like, you know-- I cannot do
something for myself or on somebody's
behalf. I'm not doing anything for
anybody, including myself. That's how
much of a punk I am. That Dwayne Kennedy,
(01:30:53):
he's a profile in cowardice. No. No. No,
the bravest thing I ever
did was get on a stage.
That's the-- you know what I mean? Just
come up on a stage. That's interesting. I
guess when I think about bravery-- I'm a
shy person. I'm a shy. Yeah. Yeah. When I
think about-- you know that thing about
knees knocking? Uh-huh. That's a real
thing. When they're like, your knees
(01:31:14):
knock? Yeah. I think people don't know
that's a real thing. OK. I mean, at least
I've had that experience. I was going to
say-- So I don't see going on stage as
being brave. I see it as like-- yeah. I
see it as making a connection. Wait a
minute. So you're saying that you have
never been afraid to go on stage? Oh,
yeah. Yeah, but I mean-- That's what I'm
saying. But being afraid to be on stage
(01:31:37):
is really just about,
will they dig what I'm doing? Well, it's
ego. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see that as me
being caught up in my own ego rather than
focusing on-- focus on the music. Focus
on being a craftsman and executing your
(01:31:58):
pathway like you're supposed to. I mean,
I'm very adamant about how you--
I'm adamant about being a craftsman and
getting better. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I
think that's the-- I mean, I don't want
to speak for you. That's the beautiful
thing. I think about art and being an
artist is that the journey never ends.
(01:32:20):
There's always things to
learn and discover. Yeah.
What's the most afraid you've
ever been on a stage, though?
The most afraid I've
ever been on a stage.
I would have to say as a young person, I
(01:32:43):
sing classical music.
And I sang my first opera when I was like
15 years old. Oh,
wow. I didn't know that.
And in this particular opera, I'm on
stage the entire time. So I'm singing
with the chorus. I'm singing with other
people. I have a duet with this person,
duet with that person, trio. But I'm on
(01:33:06):
the stage the entire time. Oh, wow. And
so that would have been, I think, my
scariest moment of like, can I do this?
Yeah, you had to carry the whole show.
Nah, I don't know about that. But I know
that I had to have the stamina. And then
fast forward to my first time, you know,
moving into the jazz realm was also
(01:33:28):
really kind of nerve wracking. But I
mean, I always had really great mentors
who really centered me and had me focus
on what was important, you know, which
was always the music. Serve the music.
You can't go wrong. OK, well, that's
great. I mean, I have what we're talking
about. I want to I want to come back to
(01:33:49):
this, but we won't have time today
because we don't wrap it up. But listen,
everybody. Appreciate you all listening
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