Living an Unscripted Life with Juliana from Boho Beautiful

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Juliana Spicoluk (00:00):
Soon as you wake up and decide that this

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doesn't feel right for me, Idon't want this. I want
something else. I want to feeland experience my life in a
completely different way fromwhat I've been told. Then at
times, society can label you ascrazy or, well, you're just
That's insane. How could you dothat? Like you're saying you
have kids, you haveresponsibilities, you have all
of these things like, how couldyou just pick up your life and

(00:24):
move somewhere else? But to me,I think if we can step away from
this old construct that I feellike, planetarily, spiritually,
collective consciousness rightnow is starting to shift from
and realize that we don't needto live that way anymore, and
that we can create a new worldfor ourselves, for our own

(00:46):
families.

Kate Harlow (00:47):
Hello, my loves. Before you get into this really
special, really beautifulconversation and episode, I
wanted to tell you a little bitabout Juliana, in case you don't
know her, Juliana Spike is aglobally recognized yoga
teacher, Pilates wellness,author, and a visionary and co
founder of boho beautiful. So Iknow so many women follow boho

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beautiful and do yoga andpilates online with them. She
and her husband, she shares thestory, but they started in a van
traveling around, recordingvideos, and they have now have
over 3 million subscribers onYouTube, and have had over half
a billion views. So they'rereally, really making an impact
in the world. And Juliana, my Imean, one of my favorite things

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about her, we met in Costa Rica.We're both living, I kind of
like the escape pandemic, livingin Costa Rica, following our
hearts, following our unscriptedlives in 2021 and our paths
crossed, and that's where weconnected for the first time.
But she really is theembodiment, embodiment inside
out, of wellness and of love andof heart and of beauty, and she

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just has created a massivemovement. And one of my favorite
things about this conversationthat I hope sparks you on your
own unscripted path is that herunscripted path still includes
having a husband. She has twobeautiful little children, a
baby and a toddler, and, youknow, is still living

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unconventionally and followingour heart and has created a
massive movement based on reallyher purpose in the world. So my
my intention with having her onis to expand and inspire you
that it's possible to beunscripted in so many ways, and
I will continue to have guestson that represent different

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options and different ways thatwomen can really live a life
that's in alignment with theirown hearts. Juliana truly has
the energy of an angel, and Iabsolutely love connecting with
her. So I hope you enjoy thisbeautiful conversation, spread
it and share the episode withall the women you know who need
a little boost and a reminderthat we can follow our hearts
and we can live anunconventional, unscripted life

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and go our own way and enjoywe'll see you soon.
Hello, beautiful. Welcome to thenew truth podcast. Hello,
Juliana,

hello, hello, hello. Welcome

back. Yes, it's been a while. It has. I was
trying to think, um, thismorning, I was trying. I didn't
look up the episode, but I hadyou and mark on, maybe two years
ago.

Yes, I think it was maybe a little over two.
It was, we were in Costa Rica. Iremember doing the yes episode
with you. So that was, yeah, Iwould say, over two years ago,
which is crazy. I feel like somuch has happened since the last
time we spoke. We

have a lot to catch up on. We'll do it here on the
live, live on the

podcast. But yeah, it's funny, as I find that
also through social media, it'seven though so much time has
passed since we've evenconnected. But because we follow
each other, and you kind of stayup to date, of like, what all of
us are up to, you don't feel asmuch of a a disconnection. Or
like, Oh, my God, two years, youknow what else happened? It's
like, I kind of feel like I havean idea, like, I know you've

(04:10):
been in Africa, I know you'vebeen in Kenya. Like, I, you know
what? I mean, you're in Greece,you're doing your thing, your
beautiful retreats, all of thestuff. It's like, I, you know,
obviously not to the depth ofwhat social media doesn't show
but it's still a wonderful thingthat through this digital world,
we don't feel as disconnected aswe would have otherwise.

So true. I feel like that is, yeah, I mean, with
everything, there's there'sgifts, and there's shadow sides
to everything. Um, yes, yes,yeah, that's totally the gift of
of social media. I love that. Ilove meeting. I imagine you
might feel similar, but I basedon traveling so much and doing

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what I do and being who I am, Imeet people everywhere. And I
love that ability to to meetpeople and have I think of all
the people I met on the on thefarm during. In those four
months that I was there inKenya, and how I get to stay
connected to them, and whatthey're up to now. And it's
yeah, these connections don'tjust fall to the white side
because you see people's livesand their pictures and their

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videos. It feels Yeah, like yousaid, like you're really still
plugged in. Yeah, yeah. You

still stay connected, in a sense, right?
Which is, which is really,really beautiful, and yeah, and
I continue to be inspired byeach other as well. And I think
that's really cool, right? It'sbecause, you know, we we get
drawn to certain people forspecific reasons, not just that,
oh, you need somebody, but it'slike, there's a reason you need
somebody. And then you click,and then you feel your energy,

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kind of vibe with each other,where you want to continue that
connection and relationship andfriendship, right? And there,
you know, through those reasons,whether that is inspiration or
admiration, whatever it is, wecontinue to have that energy as
we continue to follow themthrough social media and choose
to, you know, to stay connectedin that way. So

that's beautiful. Yeah. Choose the social media.
We do love a little part of you.I, as you were talking, I'm
like, Oh my gosh, I justpictured what's what was that
restaurant? I went there all thetime, but I can't remember
what's called. Where we met thefirst night in, oh yeah.

Love burger.

Yeah, love burger. Oh my gosh, that night, and
then, and then I rememberwalking on the seawall in
Vancouver, in Yaletown with you,and Mark, yeah, because we

were visiting for like two days, my friend's
wedding was happening, and thatwas when Xavier was still little
young. He was only, like, was itseven months old or something?
So that was like, three and ahalf years ago now, which is,
but, yeah, I know it's crazy.It's crazy how much life has
moved and shifted, in a way,since we lost each other.

It's beautiful. Well, I feel like we're both
modeling this, living anunscripted life so well. And I I
feel like, I mean, justastrologically speaking, moving
into the Aquarian Age versusCapricorn is so aligned to to
because it's like the breakdownof all the old systems. For
those of you who don't knowastrology, but I'm sure I've I'm

(07:10):
not an astrologer, but I'vementioned it before, breakdown
of old systems, and also thislike collaborative community,
new new paradigms, new ways ofbeing, new ways of thinking,
big, dreaming, big energy thatcomes with the Aquarian Age that
we're in now. And so, yeah, I'mso excited. The reason we we
came up with this, this title,and this topic is just you and I

(07:33):
were just catching up and justto catch everyone else up. And
we were like, oh my god, this isthe topic that we need to talk
about today. Is unscripted life.Because, like you said earlier,
so many people desire it rightnow, and so many people are
feeling, I know a lot of myclients, are saying, like, Oh,
I'm fed up with America, I'm fedup with Canada, I'm fed up with
wherever they live. And they'rereally ready to take the risk

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and to but often they think,okay, it's just you that has a
magical life, like, I couldnever do that, and I have kids,
or I have a partner, or I haveand so if it's so great to have
you here to represent you know,someone who has an amazing
relationship and two beautifulchildren, and that you're also
living this really unscripted,following your hearts, following

(08:17):
your truths life. So do you wantto tell us a little bit about
it. Share a little bit aboutyour story.

Yeah, gosh. Where do I begin? I mean, I
think just to speak to whatyou're saying, you know, you're
saying astrologically, like,there we're going through this
different shift in time. Andeven, you know, you're looking
at it from the yogicperspective, you know that they
talk about, like we're justcoming to the end of Kali Yuga,
right? And Kali Yuga, which iskind of that unsettling era of

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war and hardship and difficulty.And I feel like I feel it, and I
see it now that we'retransitioning into this new
stage, because there's thisslight, like, almost Mass
Awakening that's happening. Andthat's happening not only from
people starting to get a littlebit more curious about
spirituality, wellness, wellbeing. You know, you just see

(09:10):
the new things kind of startingto become more mainstream, but
it's also people waking up tothis idea, like they're saying
that they don't want to continueto live the life they've lived
for their whole since, sincethey were born, or since they've
been kind of told this is theway you're supposed to do it.
You're supposed to go to school,get a degree, go to university,
get married, have children, havea home, have a mortgage, like

(09:31):
there's like, this thing youhave to do. And as soon as you
wake up and decide that thisdoesn't feel right for me, I
don't want this. I wantsomething else. I want to feel
and experience my life in acompletely different way from
what I've been told then. Attimes, society can label you as
crazy or, well, you're justThat's insane. How could you do
that? Like you're saying youhave kids, you have

(09:53):
responsibilities, you have allof these things like, how could
you just pick up your life andmove somewhere else, but to. Me,
I think if we can step away fromthis old construct that I feel
like, planetarily, spiritually,collective consciousness right
now is starting to shift fromand realize that we don't need

(10:14):
to live that way anymore, andthat we can create a new world
for ourselves, for our ownfamilies. And that starts with,
one, is it just a decision as todecide, no, I want a different
life. And two, is looking atwhat you have to offer in the
world and how, especially inthis, as we talked about digital

(10:35):
world that we live in now,there's so many more
possibilities of making anincome, of sustaining yourself
or just creating a differentlife than, let's say, even our
parents might have had, youknow, 40 years ago, 50 years
ago, and so you know, to talkabout our story, I mean for
myself and and my family andeverything it really be. We were

(10:57):
really gifted. Because we'remostly gifted. We were blessed
in a way, because when westarted Bova beautiful, and we
have an online digital wellnessbrand, you know, we started when
it was just the beginning. Atthat time, it was like two, 2016
like YouTube was just startingto kind of yeah happen. And, you
know, we had the desire that wewanted to create a different
life for ourselves. And we wereliving in Toronto at that time,

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and I felt like I was physicallybeing suffocated by that life,
you know, working two jobs. Ididn't have children, I had a
dog and Mark and, you know, wehad a home and everything. But I
felt myself like I was drowning,like it was just I wasn't
feeling fulfilled, I wasn'tfeeling like I was growing.
Things were starting to notalign anymore, like I, you know,
I remember having to have asecond job, and I was a

(11:42):
bartender at, like a bar, andjust feeling this resistance
every time I had to even go intothat space, because I'm like,
this isn't meaning, or I didn'talign with what I want to do and
how I want to live my life. AndI remember it just became a
choice after that with Mark,because Mark was feeling
similarly in his own ways. AndI'm like, Well, look, we want to

(12:03):
see the world, we want totravel, we want to experience
life in a new way. And so let'sfind a way for ourselves. And at
that point, you know, for us,the ideas came through, creating
content online. So, you know, asa yoga teacher and doing Pilates
and that that was my passion,really. And so it was just, you
know, I've had so many requestsof my students asking if I offer

(12:26):
anything online. This is back inthe day when there wasn't as
much online things, yeah. And Iwas like, let's just, like, buy
a camera and just start creatingsomething. And so we did, you
know, we just started shootingin, like, Mark's office at that
time, and, like, behind a whitewall. And then we started to
travel and then startincorporating, like, anytime you
would go, let's just say we wentto Thailand and like, okay,
we're in Thailand for one week.You know, it wasn't like we

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could travel for a month, andthen we just went for one week.
And then we would, you know,take that camera and start
creating little videos on thebeach and and doing yoga classes
and giving that opportunity forpeople to experience the the
cultures and the different waysof life that we were
experiencing through ourtravels, and so as a backstory
that's, you know, a short way,because it's definitely a longer

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story than what I'm saying. Butone thing led to another, that
we were then able to create abusiness, an online business,
that allowed us thatopportunity, to be able to leave
the city to not be beholden to ajob, physically in one space,
that our job then and ourpassion and we felt like our
service to the world was able tosustain us to be able to travel

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and start to experience life,which then opens your eyes even
more to understanding like, Wow,there's So much to this
beautiful world where living inthis one city and city that you
felt like deep down, thesuffocating you is not the way
life is too short to allowyourself to live that way, you
know. And yeah. And so for us,you know, our business done well

(13:57):
that we've been able to continuethat lifestyle. And then now we
have two children, four yearolds and a 10 month old. And,
you know, we lived in Costa Ricafor a long period of time,
thinking that that was going tobe a place where we want to
raise our children and kind ofcall home, because in the remote
town, a yoga town, you know,there's nature, it was very much

(14:18):
removed from the typical kind ofcultural society that, let's
say, big cities in Canada atthat time are are, but that also
shifted, and that also changed.And then, you know, as
everything in life, it ebbs andflows, and that energy didn't
align with us anymore. There'scertain things that made us not
feel safe raising our familyanymore in that town. And then

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somehow, again, we surrenderedto took away life was guiding
us, and somehow Barbados, out ofall places, never expected
Barbados to be a place we wouldcall home, but being one thing
after the other just aligned.And we arrived here, and then we
started meeting different, likeminded families and. You know,

(15:00):
other families of smallchildren. So, like our children
can become have, can start tocreate, like a community for
themselves. And it's really,really beautiful on this island.
Is amazing to raise childrenbecause, like, it's safe, it's
beautiful in terms of the naturethe water so calm they can, you
know, examine like such aswimmer now, and love the ocean.

(15:20):
You go snorkel with the turtleshere, and it's just, it's a
different, a differentlifestyle, you know, and now
that we're here, it's, I feelvery, very blessed that we're
able to, you know, create thislife for our kids. And it just
started from us making that onedecision, to put ourselves out
there, out in the world, youknow, start creating content and

(15:41):
sharing it with the world, notknowing if it would connect or
not, because you really don'tknow. You know first time you
post that video,

and I can already hear like when you first I mean,
thank you so much for sharingthat beautiful and I know
there's so many nuances to yourstory and but I just like as you
started, I thought, Wow, what agreat way suffocating like that
is what it feels like whenyou're going against your own
truth. It's either you havelike, insane anxiety that wakes
you up every night, that was meback in the day, like I'd wake

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up in the night, like freakingout with anxiety, and it's
because I was lying to myself,or feeling suffocated every time
you go into the place that's sothat you've outgrown. Really,
it's just part of yourself thatyou're ready to to let go of so
the new parts can be born thatrelevant. I feel like so because

(16:30):
we have to be we have to bewilling to let the old self die
so we can be reborn over andover again.

100% especially I find as a woman,
there's we go through so manychapters of death and rebirth,
yes, and you know, you look atit one way, like, as a mother, I
feel like I've died twice andbirthed myself two times because
I've had two children, butoutside of even just being a
mother, like there's chapters inour life, like, you know, you

(16:56):
were speaking earlier, like youfeel like you've outgrown a
relationship where you don'tfeel like you're able to evolve
anymore with this person, andit's not anything against them,
but it's like, yes, thisbeautiful, deep connection that
you have within yourself withyour own truth, knowing that
like this isn't allowing me tofeel that expansion that I need
to continue within my evolutionon this earth. Because really, I

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all of us like we're we're soulsin these physical forms and
physical bodies, and we're hereto expand and to learn and to
grow. And all of therelationships and circumstances
and things that life in universebrings our way is for that
growth. And so I find if we'renot honoring that growth, if
we're not listening to it andand keeping ourselves stagnant,
you're we're doing more harm,not just spiritually, but also

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physically too. Like you hearpeople start to get sick, or
they start to feel like this,ailments like or worse. Even you
know, sicknesses, cancer, thingscan arise, and it's because
they're just emotionally unableto allow themselves to grow to
release, to let go, to let goexactly, to kill a part of them

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so that a new part of them canbe reborn. Yeah, exactly. And

I think, like, whenever I'm working with women,
and they're they're like, in theping pong game, in their mind,
should I stay or should I go?Should I, you know, whether it's
staying in Canada and or going,which is where, yeah, we're
living, or should I stay in thisrelationship or go, should I
say? Which, if we're in ourmind, it's just going to play
both sides of the the game. It'sa ping pong game. It's never
going to stop. And then we ask amillion people, and then we get

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all confused and muddled. Butwhenever I ask a woman to close
her eyes and connect with herheart, the truth is, always
there, always It's wild. It'seven if she's in agony for
months and months, it's clearwhen she closes her eyes and
when she opens them, she mightnot allow herself to follow it,
but this is so important, Ithink, like, who would you be,
and what would your life be ifyou hadn't had the courage? And

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I could also hear people's mindsor saboteur in my words, ego
mind, saying things like, ohwell, Juliana could do it and
mark because they got in earlyYouTube, they got in early so
they created a successfulbusiness because of that. But
then people now will say, Yeah,or it's, it's too late to do it

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now. But that's not true. Thedifferent what you did, it was
actually more risky to do itback then. Right now, we have so
much evidence and informationthat you can create success
online, the key real successwhere it's aligned with your
heart and your vibration, that'swhen we really make an impact,
not just monetary success, butactual like fulfillment in what

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you do, and being satiated byyour work and your purpose is
Like actually listening to thatheart, whether it's moving
somewhere or saying yes to a newpath or whatever, whatever the
thing may be, you cannot losewhen you're following your heart
like it's going to lead you.It's not a linear path. It's not
going to happen overnight, butit's going to lead you in the

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right direction, even if it'sthe opposite of what your mind
thinks. Is the direction isgoing to be 100%

and, you know, just to comment what you're
saying, like, yes, for us, thiswas the path for us. And we
were, say, lucky, in a sense, atthat point, that we were early,
but we continue to do ourbusiness. And it's not getting
any easier. Like you're in thishuge sea of competition, and
there's 1000s of yoga apps and1000s of wellness things
happening, and everyone's gotsomething to sell, and everybody

(20:24):
got something to offer. But Ithink also, when you look at it
that way, like everyone's doingit because they can. And if it
is your passion, and if this issomething that you feel called
to, because, you know, it shouldbe something that you feel like
I'm at service to, because ithas to fulfill you, not just
because, well, this is the oneway to do make money, then I'm
going to follow it. It's like,if you're following just the
monetary aspect, then, you know,I don't think it's going to be

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as fulfilling as you expect. Butif you truly, like you said,
like close your eyes and connectand and see, what is it that you
connect to? What is it thatreally makes you feel alive?
Whether that is a service ormaybe that is art, maybe that
is, you know, you you see peoplelike selling little things on
Etsy and make a business out ofit. Do you know what I mean?
Like, there is so manyopportunities right now,

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especially as we were saying inthis digital world that we live
this is so different than whatit was even 20 years ago, like
you are able to create abusiness out of anything. And if
that's you know that what you'relooking for to have that safety
net. But even if it's not abusiness that you're making
online, you can always like, Isee some people that just move
to Barbados, and they're like,I'm a yoga teacher. I'm teaching

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at a couple different studioshere. Or, you know, they find
another like, there's alwaysopportunities and other ways to
make an income and a life in adifferent environment. And it
doesn't have to be the placethat makes you feel stuck or
suffocated. And I think whenpeople can face that fear, to
even just travel and see what isout there in the world, and to
meet like you're saying, youmeet so many new people, and you

(21:53):
hear their stories, and you seepeople doing it in all their own
different ways, and there's nothere's no box to follow, like
you can create whatever youwant. You know you can really
you're the master of your ownlife. And if you meet different,
different people that do it adifferent way, like, it's so
inspiring to see that all youreally need is courage, and all
you really need is the strengthin your own heart to like, to

(22:17):
make that difficult choice. Andthe hardest choice is to leave
is the hardest choice is to makedecision, the decision in your
heart, to choose to put yourhouse for sale, or to break your
lease, or to sell your car andall the belongings, and just
pack your bags and just go andyes, you know, as I say these

(22:37):
things, sometimes you're like,Well, you know, single thing,
but I have kids, and they have,you know, a life and this. But
even just to give you anexample, we had somebody that
worked for our company. He himand his family were living in
Toronto all their life. Neverleft. And, you know, for the
first six months he was workingwith us, he's constantly was
just, you know, personally,sharing with Mark like them as a

(22:58):
family, just feeling reallystuck. And again, that that
feeling like suffocating, weneed to change, but we don't
know how they have, like, twokids that are, you know, 10 and
seven, and the wife has, she's alawyer at a, like, a corporate
office in Toronto. Like, there'sso many things that keeping them
grounded. And I remember withMark, I was like, Look, you
don't have to make the biggestdecision of your life and sell

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everything. Go like, here inBarbados, they have a welcome
stamp visa, so they give you anopportunity to go for one year.
Like, put your rent your housewell, because you have worked
for us. So we're like, movehere. We're living here now as
well. Move your family here. Putyour kids in a school for one
year in Barbados, you know, makethe arrangements like you don't

(23:44):
have to completely destroyeverything that you build in
your town, but just take a pauseand go see and experience a
different way of living. Andthey did, and it was amazing,
you know, they it was so scaryfor them. They they packed a
bunch of stuff. They shipped itover here. The kids got into
school for the year. They had abeautiful school here that they

(24:05):
love. And even his wife is ableto figure out a way with the
corporate job she was in to beable to work remotely. Because
since COVID, I think, like,people are a lot more open to
that now, like zoom and allthese things, like, it's a lot
easier to do it than before, andthey did, you know, and it was
beautiful, and they lived for ayear, and they actually, I think

(24:27):
they're going back to Torontobecause, you know, she's not
working for us anymore, just forthe reasons, but whatever
circumstance that happened, thefact that they did it for a
year, and just to see themactually grow, and how much they
loved it and their children. Andlike the relationship they, they
they made, and like just howmuch more connected with nature

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they started to become, to apoint where they were like, Oh
well, you know, we don't evenwant to go back to Canada
anymore. Like they, they reallyloved it here, because of the,
obviously, the relationship. Atthe the working relationship
with us, they might go back tofigure it out now, because it's,
you know, they obviously lifechanges. But the fact that I

(25:08):
don't know where they'll gonext, maybe they'll move to a
different country. They'retalking about maybe going to
California now, but you know,just that one first step for
them, for a family that youwould say were so tied with so
many different ways they did it,and it was really inspiring. And
I was so proud of them, becauseI'm like, Wow, that's amazing.
Guys like you, as scary as itis, it's so possible and it is,

(25:31):
and you learn and you experienceand what's the worst thing that
happens if you go back yourhouse is back. They know what I
mean, but the richness that youreceive from living in a
different country, your childrenbeing exposed to different
cultures, to different people.It Like It's there's no price
tag on that, like it is the mostenriching thing you can offer

(25:51):
for yourself or for your family.And even if it's temporary, it
doesn't have to be a forever,you know. But I think life is so
short that to not give ourselvesthe opportunity to just live and
experience it, even for a shortmoment. It's so crucial,

and you never know where to lead. Like you never
know on that experience ifyou're going to meet what new,
new possibilities will come yourway that you couldn't see
before. Like I think of how manythings in my life are my lived
reality now, and what I'm evenmoving into that I didn't even
know I wanted before. We oftenso many women when there's first
trying to figure out what theydesire or what they're you know,

(26:28):
what is their big, juicy Kate orJuliana style, like unscripted
life? What does theirs looklike, and their mind might be
able to try and imagine? But itthere's so much ahead of us when
we're not learning the scriptand we're not following the x,
y, z, check the boxes, live yourlife in this tiny box, and
follow the rules and stay whereyou were born and don't go

(26:49):
anywhere and don't do anything,and and when you're not high on
drugs the whole time or numb ondrugs because you can't, you
don't want to feel any of itlike when you're not living that
life anymore and You're nolonger willing to suffocate
yourself. You actually don'tneed to know where you're going.
You can have ideas. My clienttold me the other day, this is
so cool. I recorded my onlinecourse that that all my clients

(27:13):
go through. I called thereclamation. I did it in 2020
from Vancouver for my place inVancouver. And I say she shared
with me that I say in the video,one day I'm gonna live in
Europe, like maybe Italy, orsomewhere in the Mediterranean.
I didn't know I was moving toGreece. Wow. He said that five
years ago. You just don't know.You really don't desires and

(27:34):
manifesto level, yes, yeah,exactly. And on some soul level,
I did know, maybe, but I didn'teven when I moved here, it was
on a whim, like it was becauseof COVID airplane. Remember that
story? I remember, yeah, yeah.It was on a whim. So it's not
it. You don't have, like, we'vebeen so programmed to believe we
have to plan our futures. Youdon't know your future self. All

(27:58):
you need to do, like you said,like your that beautiful story
you just shared is just like,what's your heart and soul
calling right now? What's likeknocking at your door over and
over and over again right now?And to just follow that thread
and take one step, you know, toeven go somewhere for a month.
So many people say to me, I wantto live in Europe one day. Okay,
come to Europe. Come for threemonths. Because you can't, you

(28:20):
know you can stay in herewithout a visa for three months,
but so many countries havedigital nomad visas now, like,
if you have a desire, just takeone step towards it, because
it's going to lead you. There'sgoing to be so much more that
you don't even know your desirethat will open up. And I'm sure
you have a million stories likethat too. 100%

No, and that's exactly what you're saying. It's
taking that first step withoutfeeling like you have to make
the biggest commitment of yourlife and sell everything. And
you know what I mean? Because,yeah, you have no idea what even
the experience is like. Ifyou've never been to Europe, and
you want to know what it's liketo live in Europe, go live for
two months, like you're saying,because living and visiting a
place is so different, right?It's like, it's nice. You go on
a vacation for a week. You'relike, this is perfect, amazing.

(29:03):
You try living there for someperiod of time, you may not feel
the same way again. And I thinkthat experience right there is
important as well. Andespecially I also find, you
know, for anybody that feelsthat feeling inside, that kind
of ocean, like, this kind ofsuffocation, of like, oh, this
is not feeling right for meanymore. I want to change, but I
don't know where to start. Idon't know where to go. I don't

(29:25):
know what are the right steps totake. I'm too afraid. There's
just too much on me is, youknow, taking, let's just say, a
retreat, you know, not like avacation, but a retreat to go,
maybe like, you know, you offersome beautiful retreats, like
with your your women's groups,or, you know, a yoga retreat, or
whatever it is. I mean, rightnow the world is filled with so
many opportunities, but justbeing able to remove yourself to

(29:47):
a new environment, to a newculture for a couple weeks to a
month, and really allow yourselfto deprogram yourself from
living in a specific way thatcertain places in the world,
especially big. Cities and, youknow, the Western I find also
mentality kind of brainwashes uswith and living in a completely

(30:09):
different environment, with newpeople and being inspired by
other people that could be thatfirst step, because then you
come back and you're like, wow,and then you feel like the
difference now, and thishappened actually, to mark and
I, before we even decided to doour big, big shift and change in
our life, we used to travel toCosta Rica almost couple times a

(30:31):
year, and we would just go for acouple weeks, maybe a month,
maybe because that was much timeas we could take off from all
the obligations we had in thecity at the time. But I remember
every time I would go, I wouldcome back to Toronto, and I
would literally cry. I would beat the airport, and I would be
crying because I just felt likemy body, physically was I don't

(30:52):
want to be here anymore. I don'twant to be there anymore, like
this isn't aligning. And themore I traveled outside, the
stronger that feeling becameevery time I would return, and
that was the biggest sign. I waslike, Okay, this isn't just me
wanting a change. This isliterally my body, physically
resisting to the energy thatthis place is about. And right

(31:13):
there that was enough to belike, yeah, that's it. Whatever
I have to do, I have to figureit out. And it doesn't have to
be, you know, like whether evenI remember him in Mark, and I
was like, I'm just gonna move tocoast. Gonna move to Costa Rica,
and I'll set up an ice creamshack, and I'll just sell ice
cream on the beach. Like, Idon't know, do whatever we need
to do, you know, to figure outfinancially that you can at
least sustain yourself to adegree. But it's like, you know,

(31:35):
like I said, again, it's, it'slife is, is just too fragile and
too short to not live, not inour truth, you know, and to
continue to suppress that truththat we feel in our heart is
only going to bite us in theass, pretty much, because, yeah,
it's going to come out one wayor another. You know, there is a

(31:56):
beautiful book I was reading,the gabriate, and, you know, he
talks about like, in terms ofjust the idea of trauma, and
certain psychological traumasthat we go through in our life,
and when we don't find a way torelease that energy or to to
feel the wounds and to workthrough them, they physically

(32:16):
like, they make you ill, likeall of the sicknesses and and
diseases that arise a lot of thetimes where the root, the root
was something psychological orsomething like that, we weren't
connected. We weren't living ourtruth. We were suppressing,
like, even suppressing now,there's, like, all these
scientific studies talkingabout, like, especially in
women, like, what women thatwere suppressing, like,

(32:36):
vocalizing what they want andwhat they need, and how that was
actually coming into, like,certain different ovarian
cancers and different again, Idon't have the stats in front of
me to fully speak to itscientifically. But like, if you
go deep into that research andsee it's like, when we're not
able to live within our truthand to speak about it, we just

(32:56):
keep suppressing it and pushingit down. The body will will
revolt in one way. You know,

it just, it's so beautiful. Because ever I love
everything you just said, yourbody's never gonna stop talking
to you and like, what a gift. Idid an episode recently about
how anxiety is a gift, becauseit's just like an out of tune
guitar when your body's tellingyou to go one way, but your
mind, AKA your soul, right? YourHeart and Soul want to go one
way, and that's your truth, andthen your mind always tells you

(33:25):
to go the opposite, because itthinks, oh no, that expansive
way is unsafe, so it createsthis distortion and discord in
the body, just like all theailments, just like depression,
like when you went repression,it's like everything's getting
pushed down. So of course, youfeel depressed because you're
repressing absolutelyeverything, desires, your truth,
your feelings, your yourintuition, everything, but the

(33:48):
more we can and that's why Ilove like, even just something
as simple as yoga. So forsomeone who's like, really in
your head, find a good yogateacher who's really connected
like you and you do Juliana'syoga on you guys have an app
now, don't you? Yeah, we have a

full out app with hundreds and 1000s of
classes, and we actually startedputting in different teachers
onto our app as well. Um, it'severything, not just yoga, but
we, you know, we havemeditation, we have yoga,
nidras, we have breath work. Wehave so many different
modalities to help people comeinto their body and connect
deeper with their hearts, toagain, to deepen that that

(34:27):
relationship. Because you knowsomething also to comment when
you're saying about depression,and something I've realized
seeing just kind of how ourWestern society deals with these
mental ailments like depression,it's like, okay, you feel
depressed. Well, what do theydo? They give you a bunch of
pills to numb yourself with. AndI understand sometimes it's
very, very necessary. I can'tcomment that it's wrong, but I

(34:50):
think a lot of the times, like,they don't take the time to get
to the root of what is causingthis person to feel depressed.
Why are they feeling unaligned?Like, maybe blah. Before we
start just throwing a bunch ofchemicals at people that is
actually going to give themworse and give them side effects
and just put them in thisterrible cycle, it's like, why
don't we address the root of it?And again, let's connect to the

(35:12):
body. Let's connect to theheart. What are we eating? What
are we drinking? What are wesurrounding ourselves with? What
are the people in your life? Howare you spending your time? What
kind of news or media are youconsuming that is causing, like,
everything has an effect on ourmind, our body and our heart.
And before we just jump into,you know, prescription, it's
like, Well, why don't we heal?Try the natural healing first,

(35:36):
see if that helps, you know. AndI feel like if we were to
address those issues. In thisperspective, I think there will
be a lot different outcomes formany people out there that
suffer with these type of mentalailments, such as depression.

A lot of my clients is when I start working with me,
they have they they're onmedication because it's so
common in North America, becauseeveryone's just in the soup,
right in the stress, functioningin the keeping their calendar so
busy there's no spaciousness andand after a few months, and
without even sharing with me,often, they just tell me after I
don't even know they're on, andit's not something I talk about,

(36:13):
I don't ask people, but unless Ifeel that they're very numb, and
then I'll ask, but it justhappens naturally, where they
eventually are like, Oh, I don'tneed this anymore. And then it's
because they're alive again,because they're following their
truth. And I think you're I justfeel like you're at your energy.
You're one of the most this iswhy I love you so much, and I
feel so aligned with you, anddid the moment I met you. As I

(36:35):
feel like you're so embodied inin everything that you believe,
and your your energy, it justfeels so consistent, and it's
like it's so pure, because youyou do have such a clean life.
You're so connected to nature.You eat really clean. You're
very intentional with every withwith so many facets of your
life. And so to learn from ateacher like that, I think of

(36:59):
all the movies that have beenout there over the years, of
like the therapist who'sactually a raging alcoholic
behind the scenes by thread,versus like someone who's
actually deeply embodied in thething. Because when you're doing
your classes, it's not just theclass, it's the frequency that
you're emitting, even throughthis conversation. So I think

(37:22):
like the app is the best placeto start, because people can put
it on their phones, theircomputers. Goes with you.
Everywhere you go, carve outthat space every morning, spend,
you know, 30 minutes or an houron your app, or even 10 minutes,
whatever, doing something foryourself to connect with your
body, like I said. Not youeveryone listening, obviously,

(37:45):
but like, like, I like, I saidbefore, it's like that you as
soon as you close your eyes andconnect your truth is right
there. It's just, it's justwaiting for you don't need to
know the 10 million steps you'regoing to take or how you're
going to get there, but thedesires and the the things that
are no longer serving you and nolonger a lot in alignment are
right there, and all we have todo is get quiet.

Yeah, and that's the thing is, some people
sometimes look at the idea of,like, yoga and wellness, like,
oh, well, I just have, I don'thave enough time in my day. But
it's like, you don't even needan hour. Like, I have two kids.
I can't tell you that I have anhour for myself. Sometimes all I
get is 1520 minutes, but I willfind that time, and I'll just do
a very quick yoga practice, fiveminute breath. That's it. That's

(38:30):
all I got today. Maybe tomorrowI'll have a little bit more, but
it's really not in the quantity,but it's in the quality. And you
know, in our app, we haveeverything from five minutes to
32 hour long practice, andreally is up to the person to
decide what their life allows inthat moment. But what it is,
it's it's just giving yourselfan opportunity to connect to

(38:50):
your heart and to your soul, ifnot your head. That's always
racing 1000 miles an hour, butit's your heart, and it's to
quiet the mind for a moment, andthat's where the truth really
can speak to and and I see itall the time, just even from
hearing people's stories, orfrom even seeing what I've
noticed as a teacher in aphysical form, in a classes, you
give people opportunity to findthat space inside their heart,

(39:13):
and they'll a lot of times havelike an emotional release, like
you see them start to cry. Yousee people starting to to feel
something even in that shortamount of time, and it's
beautiful, and it's something weshould never suppress. Like, you
know, if you feel the urge tocry, when you find that
stillness silence, even if yougo in nature, do it because it's
your nervous system that isregulating, that is your body

(39:33):
needing to release whateverenergy, what is around and that
we're storing it. Because if youdon't, like I said before this,
and it's energy can't bedestroyed, right? Like it just
goes and you have to, you haveto move it. And so if we're not
able to move it out of our heartspace, out of our body, whether
that is, you know, anxiety,stress, all of those things, it
will find a home, and it willmanifest itself in your body and

(39:57):
come out through back ache orpain. Pain or worse, you know,
some kind of illness. And sothat self care is crucial, and
that is actually the first stepbefore you do anything else or
change your life in any way. Isactually prioritize wherever you
live, 1520, half an hour a dayto just whether it is yoga,

(40:19):
breath work, meditation or maybea workout. Some people really
need to release that energy, oreven sometimes, I say, just go
in nature. You don't have time.You have a dog. Go walk your dog
and connect, you know. And justlike without your phone, yes,
exactly. Leave the phone behind,just for that half an hour.
Don't look at the email, don'tcheck your text messages, and
just breathe and listen to thewind and feel the rays of the

(40:42):
sun on your skin, and justconnect with that energy,
because it is around us, likedivinity, like that. It's here,
it's it's inside of ourselves.It's everywhere. But we just we
disconnect from it becausethere's so much noise, like our
lives are so busy and they'reand if we don't find to connect
to it. We just keep getting moreand more dragged into the noise

(41:03):
and chaos of our of our life,and then you start to feel more
and more lost. And so I findthat even that first step of
just finding daily ways toconnect to your heart will start
to slowly build little, tiny,micro steps to a greater
understanding of what is it thatyou really want, and what is it
that you really need in yourlife and feel connected to, and

(41:25):
what is it that you need to letgo of? And, yeah, more nourish
more. You know, because, likeyou said, like you work with a
lot of women that are like,should I stay? Should I go? Do I
feel? You know, what do I do,and especially at a specific
time in our lives andcircumstances? You know, whether
that is for relationships orwhatever it is, it's a really
difficult either question tostart to ask yourself, like, do

(41:47):
I feel like I'm growing in thisrelationship? Do I feel like I
am really living my truth, or amI just reacting to what I'm
supposed to do? And you knowthat question itself can be even
a scary one that people avoid toask because you're afraid of
what the answer would be.Because if some of that the
truth or the answer might comeup, that may be a difficult one,

(42:09):
right? But, yeah, I think it'slike I said before. It's, you
know, we need to alwaysprioritize our own well being
and our growth, our soulevolution. That is really why
we're here on Earth. Andunfortunately, you know, it does
require, sometimes asking thedifficult questions and

(42:29):
connecting for ourselves, andprioritizing that connection,
even if we feel like we don'thave the time for

Yeah. Well, the beauty is it just like you get
it just gets better, like lifegets so much better and richer
and more meaningful and moresatiating, more fulfilling. When
you do create that space and andand start to operate from your
that soul, heart space, insteadof the mind it so so you'll get
you'll get to know that rightnow i It's so much easier for me

(42:59):
to make big decisions and takerisks and let things go, let
relationships go, let apartmentsgo, let places go, step into new
possibilities. Because I know,even if that ends up being, like
we talked about earlier, astepping stone, I know it's a
calling right now, and I knowthat it's just going to be even
juicier, even better, likethere's always more of ourselves

(43:21):
to experience, and more of lifeto experience, and also just
just thinking about how freakingcool it is the body's
intelligence, like how amazingthat we have this body that's
always talking to us, and itnever stops. Worst case
scenario, and you get some crazydisease your body is you're on
your side. And I think how many,how many women, especially, are

(43:42):
at war with our bodies when ourbodies just want to help us.
They're literally our guides.Like, hey, no, don't go to don't
walk in that room. Don't go on adate with that guy. Don't, you
know, don't. Don't stay anotherday in this job that is
suffocating you. Our bodies areso highly intelligent and
connected to the to the biggerlife that we're meant to
experience, the more expandedlife that we're meant to

(44:04):
experience. So that's so cool.

Oh, it's, it's incredible, like the
intelligence of your body. It's,um, you know, for me, I the what
I really made me realize. Imean, obviously, I've read so
much of it in books. I actuallythere's another beautiful book
called Body Keeps the Score byanother. I don't know if you've
heard of it. It's, it's quite anold book, but it talks about
how, like, our body literallyKeeps the Score of like, every

(44:30):
traumatic experience, whetherit's even traumatic or not,
like, whatever way you labelthat it, it's, it takes us for
and it's like we have to findways to to work with the energy
to release it. But I was sayingto go back to, you know, the
most transformative ways for meto realize the power of our
bodies is when I was, you know,giving birth. I had two natural

(44:52):
births with my kids, and to see,like, I can't even explain it,
like, how. How intelligent thefemale body is. It's like, it
like, you don't do anything.You're just, like, stepping
aside, and it like, knows, likea contraction and all the things

(45:12):
of like, it's literally bringinglife into this world. And it's
doing it without your mind. It'sdoing it without your head, also

making the baby. It's like, it's making body
parts

growing, growing lungs, like you're,
like, literally, like havinggrowing a nervous system right
in your belt, like in youruterus, like it's, it's really
freaking incredible. And we haveto, I almost, like, remember
that whether you know women areour mothers or not, or they
choose to have children or not,it's like, you see that process
right there, of like bringinglife into this world, the body

(45:43):
has been designed and programmedby not humans, divinity, by God,
by existence, to be able to havethe strength and the
intelligence to create.Literally, it's a miracle, like
it bringing life into thisworld. And so like to know that.
Then we also have to rememberthat. Then it will signal and

(46:05):
tell you when something is notaligned anymore with with your
well being like it will speak toyou. It's just really a matter
of fact, if you choose to listento it, or you choose to put it
aside and ignore it, but overand over again, it will continue
to give you a little sign, andthe signs will start to get
stronger, stronger the more youignore them, right? It's like,

(46:28):
slowly it'll just be a tap onyour shoulder, and then it'll be
a hit on the head, and it'll bea break on your head. You know,
it's like, it's good to keeptrying to get your attention
until you listen and but Ithink, you know, a mindful
practice of self care is thefirst step in helping you kind
of reconnect to that connection,like that telephone wire with

(46:48):
your body and your mind, to tryand connect to it and listen to
what it actually feels and whatit needs. And that, I think, as
we prioritize it and we start totake care of our bodies, you
start to feel better in yourmind. You prioritize that mind
body connection, and slowly,things just start to kind of
move in that direction. And onelittle baby step at a time,
it'll unfold the way it'ssupposed to. And then you feel

(47:09):
more stronger and more confidentto even speak your truth, and,
you know, voice your truth. Andthat's something, you know, I
struggled a lot with, you know,for a long time, because I, you
know, I was raised, I come fromUkraine, right? So, like, I was
raised in a very like SovietUnion type of way, where, you

(47:33):
know, like, as though, as a girltoo, like you don't speak, you
listen, you take, like rules,like everything is so one way,
and as a woman as well, in thatculture, it's like, no, no, you
don't have a voice. You you dowhat you're told, kind of thing.
And so that's been programmedfrom a very, very early age in
my mind, and slowly, obviously,living the life that I have now.

(47:55):
It also was a lot of work tostart to deprogram that, and I
still, you know, strugglethrough activating my throat
chakra to be able to voicecertain things that I feel that
sometimes are scary or maybe alittle bit more intimidating to
speak about it. It's a work inprogress, but, you know, it just
shows that, like it's itrequires work. None of it is

(48:15):
going to be a step of a fingers.Be like, Okay, now I'm ready.
I'm going to speak my truth.It's like, Well, are you? Are
you able to really connect tothat truth? Are you able to, you
know, understand of what thatwill open up for you when you
are ready to commit to walkingthat path, that unscripted path,
as you say, right? Because thatalso will require you having to

(48:38):
realign your path with the rightpeople, because there's so many
people in your life that may notagree with it, that may not
support it, that may actuallytry to scare you from it,
especially like I was saying,it's like, if you're surrounded
by other people that are livingthat life, that are maybe stuck
and not listening to themselves,when they see somebody else
trying to, you know, change orfind a different path, Like

(49:01):
maybe, what are you doing? Youknow, because they themselves.
Everything is a reflection,right? It's a personal
reflection. They're reflectingwhat you're you're trying to do
with their own life, and thenthey will try to convince you to
not do it, because deep down inthemselves, they're too scared
of themselves, you know. And Isaw it a lot when Mark and I
started going on our path, youknow, I but I lost a lot of
friends. I had to let go of alot of people in my life because

(49:22):
I knew that their energy wasn'tserving the truth that I was
ready to walk towards. Andthat's also part of it, right?
It's

just like so part of it, I mean,

I'm sure you can relate as well. Probably had
to
yeah

time, but I just there was this line, the full
moon that just happened. Therewas this line, the Scorpio Full
Moon on the on my birthday, onthe 12th, the last line, it was
so poignant. It said, You willnever go back to the person that
you were, and it will be thebest thing that ever happened to
you. And so our fear. Or wantsto hold on to what was like we

(50:01):
talked about with the death andrebirth our fear. Wants to hold
on to all those people. Wants tohold on, wants to make everyone
happy. We're so and as women,just so taught to please
everyone else and not rufflefeathers, not cause, but like
I'm so. I love how you phrasethat. It's the reflection of
them, and you know, once you canreally, really anchor into other

(50:24):
people's opinions of you,perspectives, their judgments,
their their fears, aren't aboutyou anyways, like they're not
about you and and and on mypath, I'm sure you can say the
same. It's been like, the more Istand rooted in my own truth,
the less people challenge me.They're just you now. They're
using the ones who are still inmy life like family, and the

(50:47):
ones that they might not beliving the same path as me, but
they love me now for all of whoI am and the crazy in their mind
choices. Because they're justlike, oh yeah, that's just Kate.
Whereas when I first startedfollowing my truth, they were
like, no, no. They would tell mewhat to do. They would give me
advice, because that's how mypatterns had it set up, right?
Like, yeah, because they weren'tused to that, and it was, of

(51:10):
course, reflecting their ownfear. But now, the ones that
have stuck around, and many fellaway that weren't aligned, but,
but, but mostly, I'm talkingabout family that just like, Are
there no matter what they'reYeah. They just see like, oh,
that's they accept it now. Like,nobody was surprised that I
didn't get vaccinated. Nobody'ssurprised that I went to Costa
Rica in the middle of thepandemic, that I'm then when I

(51:31):
moved to Greece. They're like,Oh, yeah, this game. Like, if I
became a lesbian, like, nobodywould be surprised. They're
like, yeah, she's just doing herthing. Like, you know

what? Are true? Yeah,

yeah. So it's like, the more we do it, the more the
world around us. And I thinkreally, it's comes down to the
more we internally, like, arereally so rooted in our truth
that we're no longer willing tosacrifice our own truth for
everyone else's experience,

exactly. And you'll kind of stop caring as
well. You're like you stopcaring. Yes, you stop caring
what they think, because itdoesn't really matter, because
this is your life, and theiropinions of you isn't going to
really change. You know whatyou're going to continue onward
with and your path. So whetherthey agree with you or disagree
with you, it doesn't reallymatter, because if they don't

(52:20):
agree with you, then they're notmeant to be in your life
anymore, and that's okay. Andit's not like a a negative, you
know, terrible thing. It's justthe way life goes. We're not
always going to be connectedwith the same people forever.
It's like every person serves apurpose, and sometimes that is a
chapter in your life. Maybethat's a lesson. Maybe it's it's
a beautiful relationship for amoment, and then you have to let

(52:42):
that relationship go. Becauseyou're, you're, you're all
beings, your own soul, you'reall, we're all traveling in our
own path, and that's okay, youknow, and difficult as it is
sometimes to admit to that oflosing your friends or, you
know, relationship and such,it's, it is just the way of
life, and it just, it's, it'sour journey, and it's, it's the
lessons in itself, right?

And it's so worth it when the aligned people come
in, right? Like, where it's easyand it's, it's you're on the, I
think of my favorite metaphorlately is the radio channels,
like, you're on the same radio,and there's no static. It's
just, like,

totally Yeah, friction, yes,

and you don't, and then

you don't have to, like, hold yourself back. I
you know, I found I becamereally aware of this lately.
It's like, when I've been in ain an environment or a group
setting, I guess, with differentindividuals and people that are
maybe not on that same radiofrequency as me, I find myself
so, like, held back because I'mso afraid to, like, Oh, can I
say this? Or can I not say this?Maybe they don't, they'll think

(53:41):
I'm crazy if I say it this way,and it's like, it's so draining
to a point where, like, now I'mlike, I avoid people like that.
I don't even want to besurrounded because my time and
my life is so limited right now.I have so much going on that if
I'm going to commit to a socialgathering or social event, I
wanted to be around people whereI can be myself, and I can open
and I can feel comfortable in avery loving, held space where

(54:05):
everyone's aligned on the samerape frequency, you know. And so
I choose to find those peopleand to surround myself with
those people, because that'swhat it is. And then I'm so
grateful for that, you know. AndI'm saying even here, like in
Barbados, I'm so grateful thatwe started to find the little
families and individuals thatare very like minded and
connected in that samefrequency. Because, you know,

(54:29):
it's, it's a beautiful thing tofind your tribe, and it
sometimes takes a whole life tofind that, right, so

totally and it, yeah, it's like, it's going to
be your future self will thankyou. This is going to feel way
better than what what youcurrently have those friendships
where you have to hold yourselfback or fight or or leave
something drained and exhaustedor defeated, or whatever the
thing might be like that. Youryour future aligned friendships

(54:55):
are going to feel so much betterthan that. So it's going to be
so worth it. And. Yeah, I wasjust, oh my gosh, have you met
Scott? Yeah, the chiropractor.Scott, chiropractor, we'll talk
about it later. My old, old,like, very old dear friend. I
haven't talked to him in years,moved to Barbados, and he's
still there, and he's achiropractor,

so we'll talk about it. Yeah, I'd love to meet
him chiropractor, too. It'salways nice to find a good

chiropractor. Yes, He's amazing. He's been doing it
forever, and he's a phenomenalguy. So yeah, have to connect
you too. But yeah, it's it's it.I love all of this. It's like
the body most important thing.You gotta really shift the
relationship with the body andhave a reverent, loving,
harmonious relationship withyour body, because she's going

(55:43):
to lead you to your truth, andthen from the truth it's

and then life will unfold and in the way it
should be. And then, you know,and that that's that next
component, is that trust rightthrough all of this, and also
holding that trust in whateveryou label it, you know,
divinity, God, universe,whatever it is to that to you,
but having trust that you areguided in that way, you know,

(56:10):
and I and every time I remember,I felt lost in my life, you know
what I mean? Or like theseperiods of my life where I feel
kind of disconnected, or just,yeah, in a tougher place,
there's always like, these, um,sorry, these beautiful mantras
that I come back to, and one ofthem, it always is just closing

(56:32):
your eyes and connecting to thatyou're like, I'm guided. I am
protected. I am guided. And justrepeating that in your mind. Or,
you know, there's, there's manyvariations, and I have a few
meditations on our app that dealwith those type of energies and
intentions. But yeah, it'sreminding yourself that even in
those like really difficultmoments, that you are guided,

(56:53):
even if you don't see it, thereis there is an energy that
pushes us and protects us inthis life and gives us the the
difficult challenges, but alsobeautiful, expansive
opportunities for the growth ofour of our life, for our soul to
to live, and we're here to live,right? That's why we aren't

(57:13):
incarnated in these bodies, sowe can have these experiences

Exactly. And what else is the point? Like, we're
not here to just, I mean, youcan choose a mundane life, you
can choose a numb life. You canchoose a scripted not your
desire, not your not aligned.But it's so much more painful.
And people are so afraid of thefear of taking the risk to
follow their hearts. But it'slike the only part that's

(57:38):
painful is really make like yousaid. It's making the decision,
like, once you once you make thedecision, it's so beautiful.

And you know, what else is more painful is
regret, is one day waking up andfeeling like, I should have done
this, I should have made thatstep, I should have tried or
just took that risk. And, youknow, one day it could be too
late, you know, maybe one dayyou're too old, or, God forbid,
something else happens, youknow, with your body, sickness
and illness, and that is thebiggest fear, I think, is to

(58:10):
regret that you didn't try. Andso while you can, and while you
have the opportunity and thehealth and and the, you know,
possibility, to do it, why not?Because, like I said, there
really there's nothing to lose.You can always go back to the
scripted way of living. It'seasy, you know, can find it. You
can, you know, do the samething, but one day, it could

(58:33):
become too late for you toexplore what life could be if
you follow your heart and youconnect to your heart and allow
that truth to guide you forward,and because when you make that
first step, then you reallydon't know what people and what
opportunities will openthemselves up to you and unfold
in front of your eyes that willthen make you look back and

(58:54):
connect all the dots and belike, Wow, this is crazy. I'm so
like, lucky and happy that Ilistened to my my own, my own
truth, you know, and I listenedto my heart and I and I faced
that fear, because look at thelife that has presented itself,
you know, like, look at yourselflike you're moving to Kenya.
Like, have you ever wondered,like, be living Kenya? Like, do

(59:17):
you remember yourself like twoyears ago, last time I spoke to
you definitely that was never inthe conversation. But, like,
look at what you know you youhad this beautiful relationship,
and you know, it's done itschapter and its thing, but it's
like all the little steps havebrought you to where you are
now, creating these beautifulrelationships and opportunities
for yourself to make a life inAfrica, like, amazing. It's

(59:41):
incredible, you know, and you'recoming soon.

I can't wait to visit you. It's, um, I love what
you said about connecting thedots, because it's like, that's
the cool thing about when youlook back to the unscripted
life, is this is like, oh, had Inot. Like, had my friend Mariana
not gone to that party and metthat guy that was like, Oh, you
do retreats. Like, you gotta goto retreat in London, and you

(01:00:08):
gotta go to do a retreat at thisplace called Ola pangi farm in
Kenya. And like, she wasn't onher radar. And then she's like,
we're going to Kenya. And then,like, you know, I just think of
all the divine moments anddivine connections, not just for
me, not just for her, for allthe women I've brought to Kenya
and then their magical journeysand lives and connections and
love stories and things thathave unfolded from that place,

(01:00:31):
like when we follow our heartsand our truths that like that,
you get to go back and connectthe dots and see like it's
amazing this person, if I didn'ttake that risk, if I didn't get
on that plane, if I didn't havethat uncomfortable conversation.
I didn't let that thing go,

Juliana Spicoluk (01:00:43):
yeah, yeah. It's incredible. And then again,
that reminds you of that wholeidea. It's like we are guided.
In a way, there is no guidance.Energy that is guiding us is
just, you know, we do also havefree will. So in a sense, you
know, you do have the choice togo to that party or not. You do
have a choice to get on theplane or not. It's really up to

(01:01:04):
you. But if you, you know, looka little deeper under that, it's
like, wow. The all of the thingsat the right place happen, you
know, you met that right person,because you're meant to be going
here, something in your soul isguiding you from this journey to
experience whatever is out therefor you, and you and you have no
idea what's out there for you.It could be incredible, you
know, or it could be shortlived. You have no idea, you

(01:01:27):
know,

Kate Harlow (01:01:27):
and not attached, trusting that too, trusting that
it could be a stepping stone, orthat it could be exactly a
longer place, or it's all, yeah,none of us know the rest is
unwritten. I love that, thatsong, the rest is still
unwritten. Yeah, we don't knowwhat's coming, but yeah, our the
more we follow our hearts andour truths, the more aligned we

(01:01:47):
become, and the more we get tolive this life that feels really
good. So I oh my gosh, thisconversation is the best. I feel
like we could jam out on thisall day long. I just love you so
much, and I'm so happy to shareyour energy. It's nice to just
connect me. I loved having mycountry that was super fun in a
different way, but this feels

so good. Me too, has been so lovely, and I'm
so excited to see you in July.Wonderful to spend more time
together and hang out and, yeah,and plan our our trip to Kenya.
I'm excited for this.

Yeah, we'll map it out in July. It's, yeah, I'll
get mark on board. I'm surehe'll be on board. It'll be no
problem. Yeah, 100% Yeah, 100%

we're excited. So excited. It's definitely like
I said it and again, like what Iwas saying earlier. It's like,
it's been in my mind, it's beenin there. And I just somehow,
you know, the right thingsdidn't align, and all of a
sudden, you know, we reconnect,and then use something. You're
living there now, and you'relike, what? Like, I literally,
I've been thinking about goingto this part of the world for so

(01:02:53):
long, but, you know, I wasn't,it wasn't the time, and this is
it now, yeah, now. Andeverything in your life happened
to then connect, to give methat, also reassurance that it
is a good place to bring myfamily to as well. You know, all
of it, it's it's beautiful, soso divine. It's beautiful.

It's so magical. So hopefully y'all are hearing the
message so much more is possiblefor you. And okay, so we talked
a lot about your app. Is thereanything else you want to talk
about? But also you can sharemore about the app if you want.
What is the app? We'll linkeverything in the show notes,
but just so you can say it outloud. Is it just boho beautiful?

Of course, yeah. It's called boho
beautiful, official, and we it'san iOS, Android app. It's also,
we have it on Roku, Apple TV. Wehave it on fire TV, I think, and
also desktop, and it's abeautiful hub of everything that
you need to enrich your life,enrich your physical and

(01:03:52):
spiritual component of your wellbeing. So we have everything
from like I mentioned earlier,we have hundreds and hundreds of
yoga classes with myself, withMark. There's also new teachers
we're bringing on. There'smeditation classes, there's
breath work. There are even, youknow, inspirational
conversations. There's someepisodes from our podcast that

(01:04:13):
we've done before. It'severything. And you know, you
could put it on your phone, oryou could plug it into your TV,
but it's a beautiful opportunityto to have a tool, and that's
what it is, giving you a tool touse to bring a little bit more
self care into your life. So,yeah, you can link it. Of
course, I'm sure it'll besomewhere people can click. But

(01:04:34):
we also have free offerings aswell. We have our YouTube
channel bubble beautiful, wherepeople can just, you know, try
out or join in on some freecontent. We have, again,
hundreds and hundreds of yogaclasses, pilates, fitness,
meditation, everything. So happyto have people explore it and
see what connects to what theyneed in their life right now.

That's perfect. I feel like last time I talked to
you, I told you, or maybe it.This was in a voice note in
Greece, and I live, well,obviously, you know, in Athens,
for those of you that don'tknow, I was in my bedroom one
day and I was getting ready, andI heard your voice, and I was
like, Oh, my God, that'sJuliana. The person in the
apartment across from me was sofunny classes. I don't know if

(01:05:17):
it was an Airbnb or the girlthat there's someone lives
there, but I couldn't see who itwas, but it was so ah,

that's so sweet. No, it's so incredible
that this digital world, as youwere saying, like in the
beginning of our conversation,it's the fact that, you know, we
can create these videos and thenput them up and then people all
over the world and be pluggingin any time of the day and and
using it and taking somethingfrom it and better themselves.
It is honestly the greatestpurpose and service I could have

(01:05:46):
ever asked for in this life. AndI'm very, very, very, very proud
of it and grateful for it.

That's amazing. It's so special. And obviously,
I imagine you can feel the heartfrequency of Juliana through
this conversation. If you aren'tfollowing the app or getting I'm
getting the app. I'm like, ohgod, that's what I need. When
I'm in Kenya, I never I have ayoga mat.

You had one? No,

I you know, we talked about it last time, I
don't know,

didn't give you access. Okay, well,
messaging, I think

you maybe sent it to me and I forgot to download
it or whatever. We'll figure itout, but I'm going to get one
for sure. And actually, I didn'teven tell you. I taught yoga in
I just channel taught yoga inKenya. Where's the farm? Because
one of the girls there wanted tolearn how to teach. Okay, now
I'm a yoga teacher. She's nowleading classes like she says

(01:06:40):
she's not an official yogateacher. Being her, did them
together, and I led them, and wewere gonna do a video on
YouTube, but the Wi Fi didn'twork. And I was like, Well,
okay, I've done yoga for 20years, so I could probably teach
a class. And I just dropped inand, like, did a class also,
wow, I channeled you. Yeah, itwas super fun. But yes, like

(01:07:01):
everything below. And thank youso much for your love
conversation. And I feel likeit's going to, yeah, I feel like
it's going to penetrate a lot ofhearts and

release a lot. So yeah, I hope so. I think this
is, this is the time in our inour world right now, is to
inspire one another and to givestrength to one another, and,
you know, to show that it'spossible and that this life is
worth living in the most joyfuland peaceful and happiest way
that we're meant to experienceit. So, you know, hold each
other strong and can do this.And I know, and I think

(01:07:37):
remembering that, I think, foranyone listening right now is
remembering that the support isthere, the guidance is there,
that there's so many women andmen have done this, and that
you're not alone, you know, andthat's something to always
remember. You're never alone,and you can reach out to
somebody in your community orjust through online communities,
but there's so many ways to feelinspired and supported in

(01:07:59):
creating change in your life. Soreally, only the thing that's
stopping you is is the firststep in the world to really want
to change. So once that's there,that's the first step in a
beautiful journey ahead. So

yeah, love it. Yeah. Maybe, maybe inside of the
new truth movement Facebookgroup, just inspiring any of you
who are in there to just start,like, commit to 30 days with
Juliana on Bucha, beautiful, andwhoever, and like, doing
something every day. Oh yeah,days that'll be able to have

it. We actually have every January. We
would release 30 days, 31 days.And so now we have that saved.
So it doesn't have to beJanuary, but anybody that wants,
like a challenge or something,we have them on the app. You
just log in and you see it, andit'll give you exact, you know,
practice. And the last time wedid it, there was a different

(01:08:52):
intention for every single dayto help you, not just like
physically, but alsospiritually, to to embody a
different component of aspiritual practice into your
life. And so that's always agreat way, like challenges like
that, that hold you accountable,not just having to kind of
everyday, scroll and look forsomething, but to be like, okay,
day two, day three, day four.And then you feel like motivated
to to complete, you know, 31days. And it's crazy to see when

(01:09:15):
you actually do yoga for 31 daysstraight, how you start to
change the habitual, you know,chemistry in your brain, like
the basal ganglia, and thingslike, you start to crave it
after you like, oh, I one daywithout yoga or movement, you're
like, something feels off, likeyou're starting to create a
beautiful new habits in

your life totally. And it feels like yoga feels
like it's a shower on the insidewhen you're by the time you get
to the end, good, yeah, that'swhat it feels like, where it's
like you're not only likereworking your energy and your
physical body, but the inside,there's this internal shift that
happens. I had goosebumps whenyou said that, imagining what it
would feel like after that much,and even devoting yourself in

(01:09:55):
that way and proving to yourselfthat you can ever. Everyone can,
we might, but you can, yeah,

yeah, you can find that 20 minutes, 30 minutes
a day, yeah, to dedicate

to yourself. It's possible, yeah, take 30 minutes
off of scrolling on Instagram orTiktok or whatever other things
you distract yourself with, andthere you go. You probably have
hours on your hands.

Very true, very true. Yeah? Love

it. All right. Well, thank you so much
beautiful. And as always, yeah,so fun. And as always, share
this episode with every womanyou know who needs to meet
Juliana conversation and everywoman who wants to burn the
script and and live a life fromthe heart and soul.

Love it. Thank you for having me here. The

best so fun. Thank.

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