The #1 Trap That Keeps Women Stuck Repeating the Same Old Patterns with Marianna Clark

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Marianna Clark (00:00):
Some point on the hero's journey, or heroine's
journey, we get to that pointwhere you go, Ah, I can let this
go too, and come back to therealization that actually I am
whole, that I am whole, and thatin that wholeness, that's the

(00:23):
ultimate healing. And then lifestarts reflecting the versions
of myself that are whole withinrelationships, within life,
within working opportunities,within everything in life. It
starts to mirror my wholenessinstead of mere something about
me that feels broken, and then Ihave to, because life will then

(00:46):
bring that to you, right? It'slike, oh, I have to fix that
aspect of my self within thatrelationship and that
relationship and thatrelationship, and then we just
keep recreating, you know, theserelationships that keep us stuck
in that

Kate Harlow (01:03):
Hello, my loves. I'm excited for you to dive into
this week's episode. You get tobe a fly on the wall on a
conversation with me and my loveof my life, my bestie, my
soulmate. I have lots ofbesties, but Mariana and I are
two peas in a pod, and I havehad Mariana Clark on the podcast
before. I think it's maybe thethird, third, maybe fourth time

(01:26):
I've had her on and but Ithought I would tell you a
little bit about her. For thoseof you who don't know Mariana,
magical Mariana, this episodeis, I imagine, going to be
deeply healing on a lot oflevels. Mariana is the founder
of travel within retreats, andshe does these beautiful
retreats that I actually attendmyself. I go on myself, for me,

(01:50):
and it's all about travelingdeeper within your own soul. And
she helps people alchemizesubconscious thoughts, limiting
beliefs through the body,through the vehicle of the body,
and embodiment practices andreally how to like actual,
tangible practices of how tobreak free from just letting

(02:12):
your limited mind lead yourlife. And so this episode is
really, really powerful. Turnsout there's not just one trap.
We kind of had an intention toto go with one trap, and it
seems like there was many. Sothere's just a lot of, like,
really tangible, reallypractical tools and things that
you can use. So I hope you feelsparked and inspired. This woman

(02:35):
is just a different level human.And I mean, I try and have on
mostly different, like, NextLevel humans on this podcast,
she's, you know, on a planet ofher own, and she, I have grown
and expanded so much in my lifesince she came into my world in
2018 and I imagine you are goingto too. So enjoy this episode,

(02:56):
enjoy my beautiful love Mariana,and our conversation and a
little glimpse into oursisterhood. And I hope it heals
a little piece of your hearttoday. And of course, share it
with all your friends. Lots oflove.
Hello, my loves. Do I have aspecial guest for you today? Do

(03:19):
you know i Hello, Mariana.Hello, Kate. Do you know I talk
about you probably in everyepisode,

really? Yeah, oh my gosh.

So you're a little bit famous here.

Oh my goodness, I'm blushing. I mean, we talk
almost every, every day, almostevery day.

Yes, we're not codependent. No one of us is
traveling or with our partners.We go through breaks, but yes,
we do talk very frequently,

yeah, yeah, and we're on different time zones
now, so I think that was adifferent shift for us too,
wasn't it because I was onLondon time and you're in Greek
time, and now I'm in SouthernCalifornia, so but we find a way
to connect every day, if not bytalking absolutely by energy. So
we're all

connected. You know, I feel like we should
probably weave that into theconversation today, because so
many women are still relatingfrom the the patterns, from the
the gossip, complaining, victimmentality, blaming, all of that
stuff. And they often say like,Well, what do you say? What do

(04:34):
you talk about with yourfriends? When, when you're not
doing those things? Like I I'venoticed when women start this
journey, there's this which, ofcourse, is of the mind, but this
question as to what, what totalk about, and what if I have
nothing interesting to say? AndI always think, Hmm, what do
Mariana and I talk about? Andfor me, I feel like the reason

(04:57):
we talk so often is because wejust keep expanding. Each other
like that. All we talk about, Imean, we joke a lot, but all we
talk about is expansivepossibilities in the universe
and the like, how beautiful lifeis. And there's just this, like,
real expansion that I experienceevery time we talk,

yeah, and I think, you know, when we ask
that question of, What do I say?What do I talk about? It's, it's
coming from our heads, you know,it's strategic. It's, it's, you
know, there's something that welose, I think, a sense of true
intimacy when we're in thatplace and and I think when we

(05:40):
get to a place where we're justreally comfortable in ourselves
and touching that part of oursoul and our heart and the
silence within, when we'rereally comfortable with the
silence within, I think it justalmost doesn't matter what you
Say, because we're communicatingon a deeper level, and that

(06:02):
deeper level is so that's why meand you, we can talk about all
these really cool things thatare happening in life, and then
when all these really coolthings aren't happening in life,
we can just be sitting in thesilence together, and sometimes,
like you're cleaning the house,or I'm chasing butterflies in
the garden, and we're Just like,oh, look, it's a pretty
butterfly. And it just doesn'tmatter the the connection that

(06:26):
we have. And I think the realsoul connection, connection that
is possible within humanrelationship, lies within the
intimacy that we have withourselves and being in in in
connection with our hearts andour souls. So then all of a
sudden, the words that just comeout, they're, they're, they're

(06:48):
words, and they're perfect inthat moment.

Yeah, it's so true. It just doesn't matter and and
it's a different frequency whenyou're in the heart and when
you're really connected, that'sit. When you're home in yourself
and you're really connected,that that question won't be a
thing, because that part of youdoesn't need to know anything.
We just talked about this, likethe mind always wants to know,
but what's next? But how do Iplan? I gotta plan the thing to

(07:13):
say. I gotta know what I'm doingnext. I gotta know where I'm
going. I gotta know where I'mstaying. And you when you're in
the heart frequency, youactually don't need to know.

No it. There is a, and we talked about this
earlier, there's a there's aknowing that comes from the
soul, because that, that part ofyour soul and your heart within
the body is connected, and themind, though, is a way is is
disconnected so and it'scompartmentalized, and it's a

(07:46):
conglomeration of all pastthoughts and all the things that
you've learned. And it's like,almost like running tape on life
and running tape on your life.So when you're actually dropping
into your heart and your soul,that you're almost like
practicing leaning into theunknown, and that becomes a lot

(08:06):
more easeful and graceful whenyou practice like going into
that unknown. That's when youtap into the soul, which always
knows, but it doesn't know. Itknows in a different way. It
doesn't know from the mind, likethe mind's perception of how it

(08:29):
thinks that something shouldlook like. Or is it this one, or
is that, is it that guy, orshould I be doing this? Or that
there's something that when welet go of that mind's
interpretation, that we dropinto the instinctual knowing,
and it's a feeling, and it livesbeyond thought. It lives beyond
words and practicing. That is, Ifeel the juiciest part of

(08:56):
living, and it's what I practiceevery day, through either, you
know, movement or meditation ornature walks things like that,
being, you know, havingobviously conscious
relationships like yourself. Andyeah, it becomes life becomes a
lot more fun that way.

Yes, because then you get to experience all the
magic and everything that'smeant that we miss if we're so
busy in the mind,

Unknown (09:26):
yeah, absolutely.

So I'm sure this is connected, but I'm just going to
read the title to pull us back.That was a little bonus, but the
number one trap that keeps womenstuck repeating old pattern,
same, same different guys, samepattern, different work, jobs,
same pattern, differentfriendship, same pattern. Yeah,
I'm excited to explore this, andit's, I feel like everything on

(09:53):
this podcast is all it's all thesame, it's all interconnected.
But I'm really excited to talkabout this in particular. So
tell us, what's the number onetrap?

I think we were relating a little bit to this,
like on the journey of personaldevelopment, on the journey of
self healing. When we start onthat journey, it's easy to look
at a lot of the things that arequote, unquote wrong with us,
or, you know, things that havekept us in a trauma state, or

(10:27):
all of those things. So we go onthat hero's journey, so to
speak, and then at one stage onthe hero's journey, we can
almost get addicted to fixingourselves, or healing ourselves,
or getting past this trauma andthat trauma, and when we go into

(10:48):
that state, it almost likereconfigures what we're trying
to heal. Because underneaththis, there's a story of us
being broken in some way. And sous being broken in some way
means we have to then fix thisaspect of ourselves, or if
something's doesn't feel rightor look like in our lives, and

(11:10):
we spend time trying to healthat aspect of ourselves. And
that can sometimes be a trap andalso a self fulfilling prophecy,
right? And so I think this is areally important topic to talk
about today, because at somepoint on the hero's journey or

(11:32):
heroine's journey, we get tothat point where you go, Ah, I
can let this go to and come backto the realization that actually
I am whole, that I am whole, andthat in that wholeness, that's

(11:55):
the ultimate healing. And thenlife starts reflecting the
versions of myself that arewhole, within relationships,
within life, within workingopportunities, within everything
in life, it starts to mirror mywholeness. Instead of mere
something about me that feelsbroken, and then I have to,

(12:17):
because life will then bringthat to you, right? It's like,
oh, I have to fix that aspect ofmy self within that relationship
and that relationship and thatrelationship, and then we just
keep recreating, you know, theserelationships that keep us stuck
in that,

yes, yeah, I like to think of it like we've Have
these two sides to ourselves,the wounded parts of us that are
from childhood, so wounded childand your saboteur, and then your
soul, your sovereignty, yourheroine, your wholeness, all the
same thing, and either in anygiven moment or either operating

(12:56):
from the wounded self or thesoul self, the sovereign Self.
And I think that, you know, Ican even track on my own
journey, the times where I whenI was it operating from the
wounded self, even in my healingjourney, when I would be
addicted to going to healers andaddicted to getting psychic
readings and astrology readingsand all the things to try and

(13:19):
get a hit to feel better, sothen it's in but it's
insatiable, because it's thewound that's actually driving
the appointment, whereas now Iusually only book sessions like
that if I already feel good,like I just had this amazing
woman, Shelly, who's a healer ofmine. I think I've told you
about her when I was back inCosta Rica, and she came on the
podcast, and then she I waslike, hey, I want to do a

(13:40):
session with you. But it wasn'tbecause I was like, I'm because
I was like, I'm broken, and Ineed your help. It was because I
was excited to see her, and Ilove her healing sessions. And
we had the coolest thing, and Igot so many, I got so much
clarity and old don't even knowif I told you about it, but it
was really beautiful session,and I got so much out of it. And
yet I did it from my whole self,not from my wounded self. So in

(14:02):
any given moment, I think we'remaking decisions from one place
or the other, and when it'scoming like, same thing with a
call, call a psychic, from yourwounded self, the second is
going to be like, or the you'regoing to be like. The psychic
told me, you know, on Tuesday, Iwas going to meet the love of my
life. Where is he like? Is ityou? Is it you? And we're going
to become so attached to thething because it's trying to
fill the wound, versus, if it'scoming from your whole self, you

(14:24):
call the psychic, and they tellyou cool things, like cool and
then you kind of forget aboutit, and then a year later,
you're like, holy shit, she wasright about everything, but
you're not attached to it,because it's not your wounded
self that's calling the psychic.

Yeah, yeah, that point of origin of making those
choices even to go see like, Ilove a good massage, you know.
So of course, I'm going toexperience that from a place of,
you know, pleasure, or from thatpoint versus, I'm going there to
necessarily fix myself in someway. But, yeah, I love, I love

(14:56):
what you said about even thepsychic it. Gets us into a
codependent relationship too.And trust me, I've done it many,
many times, and occasionally Ihave that urge, you know, it's
like, oh, I want somebody totell me what to do, or, you
know, or is my is my futuregoing to be okay? Of course,
that mind's going to come in,and it's okay because we're

(15:19):
human, right? But it's nice toalso catch ourselves in that
place to because when we dothat, we give our power away.
That's it,

and our money, and our money too.

Oh my gosh, my friends and I joke like, all the
money that we've spent onpsychic readings in that way,
where it's like, you know, wecould have come into a place to
in ourselves, to just anchorinto that, knowing that we were
talking about earlier, and thenfrom there. Because what we do,

(15:50):
when we do that, we starttrusting ourselves and life so
much more in that. So it'sinstead of also placing our
trust in things outside of usthat can change, right? There's
an inner there's somethingthat's really quite solid, and
in that inner knowing and and,yeah,

I feel like we're the you and I are the perfect
example of like. And it took mea lot, I'll have to say, it took
me a long time to get here. Soit's practice. So it's practice,
practice, practice, but we bothtalk about how we we love, you
know, the practices are alwaysmeditating, writing, movement,
singing, singing is my, my go tobut I do a little bit of all of

(16:37):
them and nature. And, you know,there's lots of different
practices. I mean, endlesspractices you can do, but it's
really about being withyourself. Going back to the
beginning, right? If you can'tfully be with yourself, you see,
you might be able to be alone,but are you really alone? Are
you distracting yourself? Areyou on technology? Are you
really with yourself? But I feellike you and I are both in a
place where we we miss beingwith ourselves when we're with

(16:58):
other people. It's like, oh, Ican't wait to have my practice
in the morning. I can't wait tohave to have that spaciousness,
to just land and just be in thatplace. And if you, if you've
never gone there, you might behearing, listening to this, and
thinking like, I don't know whatthat is, but the more that you

(17:19):
practice and you just sit withall of your feelings, welcome
them, feel them move your bodyin the way that it feels like
moving without your mind, youknow, without letting your mind
move your body. But just letyour body do what it wants to do
so it can move. The feelingthere is an even through sound,
through singing, throughwhatever there is so much that

(17:43):
comes from that connection. AndI think you know, even with with
decisions, making that decisionfrom these two different places,
like when you know, when you'reable to sit with yourself in
that way, and you're connectedto yourself in that way, you you
really feel that in heart,knowing you know of what is
aligned for you, or what, what,what feels really good for you,

(18:06):
or we often don't know, becausewe're just making all of our
decisions from the mind,

yeah, and creating that sacred space and
time, you know, if you can,obviously, each day to come back
and return to that, like yousaid, like, I can't wait, even
if I'm spending, like, let's sayI have a very social three days,
and I have, you know, the lastthree days, and I was like, wow,
I've been around a lot ofpeople. I've gone to a lot of

(18:33):
different, you know, socialevents and things like that.
There's a part of me that justcraves coming back to that place
of meditation, to my writingspace, to dancing, to moving, to
taking those long nature walks,you know, in the hills and, you

(18:54):
know, it's, it's, that's where Irejuvenate. You know, that's
where we talk. I think we'vementioned this a lot before,
where it's like, it feels likeI'm coming back into the self
rejuvenating fountain, and Ifill my cup in that space, and
then I can, it's a space whereyou return to your wholeness,
and then from there, you know,you can go to other social

(19:16):
events, you can connect withother people from that same
space, and the world looks sodifferent from that same space,
from that rejuvenated space,people start responding to you
differently because you'reconnected to yourself in such a
deep way that you get to meetpeople in that and It becomes an

(19:39):
invitation for other people toshow up in that space, like

all the 25 year olds that hit on you, Mariana.
25 year olds love Mariana whenyou're in the heart space.
Folks, folks, everyone lovesMariana, though, but that, that
is it. Because you're walkingthrough the world with your
heart open because you've metyourself. It's not just oh,
hearts open all the time. We goback to that place and it

(20:09):
imagine the the rewiring thathappens when we come back to to
loving ourselves enough tocreate the space, rather than,
Oh, I don't have time. Okay. Howmuch time do you spend on your
phone and on Netflix? Come on,you can make time coming back to
that place over and over andover again to our for ourselves,

(20:29):
what a gift that is to our likeour the little kid inside that's
been abandoned a million timesand, you know, felt left out and
felt like she doesn't belong andlike she's not enough, and like
she doesn't matter, and allthose things like that little
girl's inside of you. So for youto come and sit with all those
feelings and sit with her everysingle day, now you're teaching
her she does matter. She islovable, she is and then she and

(20:50):
then you two walk through theworld, you know, and she, she
starts actually healing, becausethat's the true healing. And
then you walk through the worldfrom that whole place. And
really it's the ripple effect.Like, I just think of how many
people you know? I mean, guessboth of us have met on airplanes
or wherever, where we likesprinkle fairy dust, because our
hearts are open and and we're ina different frequency. And how

(21:13):
many people's whole, entirelives change just from one
conversation? Yes, and ours dotoo. I mean, gosh, I've heard. I
mean, I think you have the mostairplane stories. I usually
ignore people on airplanes, butyou airplanes, but you, every
time you get off an airplane,you're like, Oh, my God, I met
the most magical person.

Oh, my goodness, yeah, it is fun, and it's so
interesting how you know comingback to that wholeness,
brokenness, when, when we try tofind our wholeness from other
people and try to, like, get thelove, let's say, of the
abandoned little girl orwhatever, from this person

(21:52):
outside of us. We it's like wealmost hold the other person
hostage to make them give ussomething that they can't ever
give us, even if they try theirdamndest, you know, to give it
to us. If we don't receive itfirst and internally, inside of
us, it's never going to befulfilled. It's never going to

(22:15):
be fulfilling. That's why we tryover and over again to through
scrolling or through this dateand that date and this guy and
that guy and that job, and wekeep trying to get it
externally. It's never going toto fulfill us until we give it
to ourselves in that sacredspace.

Yes, and that is why we keep repeating old
patterns, yes, because all ofour patterns are external to try
and get something. They're allextractive to try and get
something from someone else tofeel good enough or worthy or
lovable, or whatever.

Yeah, and when we feel that way, when when we
have a judgment about what'sgoing on in our lives with other
people or with ourselves. That'sbeautiful information to me,
like that is information that Ican take and say there's a part
of me that doesn't feel eitherthat I'm not taking

(23:16):
responsibility for in my ownlife, and I'm projecting it out
onto that person, or onto theworld in some way, onto my
circumstances, and I'm gettingtriggered by them, or it's
triggering this quote, unquote,deep wound inside of me. That's
information if I and if I try tofix it externally, then it just

(23:38):
keeps recycling the pattern. Andno matter what we do out there,
it just keeps getting recycled.And that's when we get stuck in
the pattern and in therelationships that sometimes we
tend to, quote, unquote,recreate, versus go, oh, hang on
a minute. Let me this isinteresting information, and I

(23:59):
can take that and journal aboutit. I can take that and see try
to go into the most objectivestate as possible as to how that
is lying in my subconscioussomewhere, and I empower myself
in taking that responsibilityand shifting and alchemizing

(24:20):
Either that story or the way Ifeel around that story or that
circumstance, and when I makethat change internally,
everything and everyone changesexternally, in my in my world,

but he ghosted me again.

And who ghosted who? What is ghosting about?

I you, yeah, okay, sorry. Go ahead.

I was like that. I find the ghosting thing quite
interesting, because

think about unpack it. Let's unpack it, but I want
you what I was going to afterthat joke. Sorry for
interrupting you, but I want youso share what you're going to
say about ghost. But I want youto unpack. So let's say, okay,
because I've actually beenhearing this a lot lately, where
women say, Oh, we had three orfour amazing dates. It was going
so well, and then he justdisappeared completely off, like

(25:12):
and no communication whatsoever.So that that's obviously the
term ghosting. Like they theybecome a ghost. So I would love
for you to share yourperspective on it, I'm sure it's
the same as mine, and then toshare, if that was you, how
would you alchemize that? So youcan give, like, a tangible
example of, like a journey youwould go on that that you know,

(25:35):
whoever's been ghosted recentlycan follow serious

Yeah, I can actually think about in my own
life. Obviously, I've been in aI just got married, actually,
that's

like three weeks ago, publicly denial to

somebody I've been with for gosh, is it over
12 years now. Anyways, the loveof my life, and he it's
interesting. So I haven't hadthat ghosting in that way with a
relationship, but I can relateit to working scenario. So I'm
trying to kind of pull from thatexperience. And so when I, let's

(26:19):
say, I've had a meeting with apotential partnership for my TV
series, let's say, and it'sgoing really well. I feel like
we could have a relationshiphere. We could have a
partnership here, we could havea contractual agreement here,
this, this can be, you know, andwe're when we're having

(26:40):
different meetings, and then allof a sudden something has
shifted, and they're no longerresponding right, or they're
responding less, or it's a nothank you, or whatever that is,
is all forms of, you know,something that was there and
very promising, and it was goingreally well, and then all of a

(27:00):
sudden, it's not there anymore.And I've been sitting with that,
and I go, it's usually, Iusually have the experience of
that, when all of a sudden Iwent from this really cool,
connected space within myselfinto giving all of my power,

(27:21):
like, Oh, now they're gonna,they're gonna do the thing and
and then I get overly excited,and it's all the sudden, all the
energy that that was inside,that I was connected to my heart
and soul, I placed itexternally, but The validation,
right, the the it's coming fromover here, like the excitement

(27:44):
that the project might be goingforward, or, you know, the
relationship might all thissudden, all the energy shifted
from being connected and insideof myself to out here, and
that's usually when I find I'mlosing, quote, unquote
connection, and I'm gettingghosted. Well, guess who
ghosted? Who? It was me. It wasme. I ghosted myself, and the

(28:12):
reflection became all of asudden, less communication. But
really, the less communicationwas, a less communication that I
had with myself. That'severything, and it's so cool to
see that now. So then I'm not nolonger like, oh my god, there
are no you know, the theopportunity, that unity that I

(28:36):
had is now gone. No, it neverleft. It's always here. I just
need to reconnect with, back tomyself. And so now my practice
is always as I'm on this hero'sjourney, having all of these
incredible meetings. And ofcourse, my little girl is going
to be like, too, super excited,and oh my god. And this is the

(28:58):
one, right? This is the onerelationship, and then having to
come back to Mariana. You arethe relationship. You are the
relationship, you are theconnection. You are the
partnership that you seek. It'shere. And just keep coming back
to that and having that becomemore solid, and bring your

(29:19):
little excited girl, she's goingto come. And you know, you can
bring her with you too, and alsocome back here. And so now I
have these meetings, and theymight come and go, and always
know that the right one isalways going to show show up.
Because guess what? The rightone is me. Yes,

yeah, and it's I love that you use that example.
I thought you were just going tomake up being ghosted. That's
perfect, because

to use a personal experience, because
it's so I think we can allrelate to this. We're all human,
and we go through our differentversion of this. It was through
love, through friendship,through working relationship,
everything,

every time we're about to up level, and that
this, this happens, right? Thesmaller self gets really, really
loud, and it's been reallyamazing to witness you, because
the more you come back to thatplace of like, oh, it's inside,
it's not the deal isn't outthere. The the right investors,
the right, you know, people theright who are going to work with
me on this project are not outthere, they're inside. And then

(30:27):
you have more opportunities andmore excitement and more more
and it just everything. It justkeeps getting better. And that's
the thing that your your soulknows, and your heart knows,
that when you plug in, that whatyou experience externally always
gets better, but the mind islike, no, no, but it's that guy,
because x, y, z, and we becomethe mind, and the little girl

(30:51):
becomes so attached in fear ofthere not being anyone else,
that's better.

Yes, yeah. And all the limitations we place on
that one thing, that externalthing. And then just think of,
then all the stories that getreconfigured when we do lose
ourselves in that, right? Andthen we go, Oh, poor me. He
ghosted me. Then it and then wego into a frequency of of lack

(31:20):
of, you know, like there's noother human being out there
that's going to be connected tous ever again. Or there's that
feeling like, what's wrong withme, the sadness, the sorrow, all
the stories that is associatedwith getting ghosted, then they
get real, they all getreconfigured. And then we stay

(31:44):
in there, and then we recreate asimilar self fulfilling prophecy
through that. You know, anotherone shows up, and then, oh no,
he's the one, boom. And then,and we pull ourselves out again.
We go out of ourselves again.And it's so easy to do. I'm not
saying that. You know, there'sno judgment here. It's like we,

(32:05):
we all do it. It's part of beinghuman and having this human
experience. But when we startcatching ourselves, and to bring
it back to what are some of thethings you do, it's the
simplicity of catchingourselves. I go, oh god, look.
And even having a sense of humorabout it, right me, and you
like, how much like, no matterhow shitty things get, and how,

(32:28):
like, you know, all this stuffthat happens. Like, we go, come
back to the cosmic joke ofleaving ourselves and go, Oh my
god, I did that again, you know,and not beating ourselves up
over it being like, I come backto self love, you know, like,
Oh, I lost myself for a moment.I I gave that guy power. I gave

(32:49):
that external situation powerover me, you know, and the self
love. And then you just return.And you return. You return over
and over again by just catchingyourself, when you dissociate,
catching yourself, when youleave yourself, catching
yourself, when you give powerover to that external thing you

(33:11):
know, and just doing a practicewhere you return and that's
again, coming back to what aresome of the practices? Oh, some
of those practices are after Icatch it, coming back to a
meditation or putting on a pieceof music that you know helps me
move that feeling of of piningor just association or sadness

(33:36):
or whatever, whatever it is, andputting on some music and and
meditation, or going out for awalk and just coming back home.

Yes, and it's, it's a lifelong practice, and in my
experience, it's like, the themore you practice, like, the
more you have theseopportunities that do pull you
out into that Wounded Child, thedeeper you go into your
sovereignty and your salt, like,it becomes more solidified our
wholeness and the sovereignwoman. And it that part of us
becomes stronger the more, themore times we do get activated,

(34:10):
and then we come back home. AndI was actually just thought of a
practice we can share that wedid at that number we we created
like a business together for aminute a couple years ago, Soul
of intimacy. And we did aworkshop. Remember that virtual
workshop we did? And we had thepractice that we had them do was
old myths, new truths. And sothe old myth is like the story

(34:34):
you're believing, you know,like, oh, again, I'm ghosted.
Men are the worst. There's nogood men on planet Earth. I'm
gonna be alone forever. I'mbroken, blah, blah, blah, all
the stories. And you go into theone that feels the most potent.
And then you move, you put onmusic, and move as that
character, as that feeling, andmove it through your body and
feelings. When we actually movethe energy of the feeling, it

(34:56):
alchemizes into something else.And then you let it change, and
you let it alkali. Eyes, andthen you tune into the new
truth, like, how do you want tofeel? How? What? What is the
actual truth? I am the love ofmy life, not somebody else.

Yeah. And even in the the new truth, I look
it's so fun to look back at myold myths, new truths, because I
have, I've actually kept them.And the reason why I've kept
them because I get to see, like,wow, I actually used to feel
that way all the time. And whatyou were saying earlier is like,

(35:35):
the more you practice it, themore this new truth becomes
solid in yourself. And when someof the old stuff, like you said,
it's a lifelong practice, right?It absolutely is. And then when
you do come across an old, youknow myth, an old story of
yourself or and they do comeback. And the reason why they

(35:55):
come back, it's an oldprotection mechanism, that's,
it's, it's there, especiallywhen you're expanding into a new
place. You're expanding into anew relationship, some of the
old stuff's going to come backto protect you from a possible
danger, including, like, anexpansive relationship, right?
It's like, Oh God no no.Remember guys suck. Remember
they treat you like shit.Remember they're this, that and

(36:18):
the other thing. So some of theold stuff will come back, but
then we can recognize them andgo, Oh, those are some of the
old stories coming back, tryingto protect me from perhaps
loving again, from perhapsopening my heart and being it
safe to open my heart. And soknowing that is you get to kind

(36:42):
of gently and lovingly nurtureyourself through this process,
but the more and more you comeback to the new truth, the more
solid it becomes. And I knowwe've talked about this before,
where we might get an oldpattern that comes up, but it
moves through so much quicker,so much easier, because we've

(37:08):
done this. We practice thisevery day, right? It's a
practice that when we doexperience an expansive moment
that brings on some potentialfear or or or triggers of any
sort, then we get to meet themin a way that we move through

(37:32):
them with a lot more grace and alot more ease, and then come
back to that solid place. SoI've noticed that in my life and
and I know that you've noticedthat in yours too. We talk about
it, we're like, oh, that wasyesterday. I know today's a
whole new day, isn't it? So? Andthat's how quickly, that's how
quickly things can change, frombeing in, stuck in in some of

(37:56):
our old patterns, the theme ofthis, to moving through into
living a whole new way of life.

I was just laughing thinking about with you on a
totally different time zone now,like, I'll send you a message
about something that I'mexperiencing in the morning and
then, and then, like, you gothrough my messages, it's like,
Oh yeah, it's shifted, like, themorning I'm feeling a certain
way based on something, and thenI do my practices, and then it's
a completely different me backhome, back home, back home, and

(38:28):
and I personally find even mylike, even my spiritual
practices, I feel like moreconnected after like, when I'm
moving through a trigger, it'salmost like, so there's a part
of me that almost feels excited.It's like, okay, this sucks. It
hurts right now, but like, Ooh,I know there's gold on the other
side. Like, when you it's like,it's like birth, death and
rebirth. It's like birth,birthing a baby. Like, okay, you

(38:51):
could just give so essentially,choosing to stay stuck in our
patterns when we rather than,like, choosing the pattern,
rather than choosing somethingnew, or at least practicing
something new, trying somethingnew is like birthing a baby and
then just stopping and beinglike, No, you know, it's too
hard. It's painful. Like, I'drather just No, I'm just gonna
go, I gotta go home. This isreally uncomfortable. Versus is

(39:12):
like, you just keep going, youjust keep birthing that baby. Oh
my god, the miracle and the loveand the expansiveness and the
beauty and the just theunfathomable feelings that
you're going to feel with thatbaby on your chest after and
also the feeling of, I did this,like, Wow, I did this whole
like, No man ever did this. Idid this. Like, birth is the

(39:34):
most miraculous thing in theworld, and that's essentially
what we're doing with ouressentially your sovereign whole
heroine self is the birth doulato little you every time you're
feeling pain, every time you'refeeling or the death doula,
every time an old part of youneeds to die, needs to be, you
know, shed and put and let go ofso that you can become the woman

(39:57):
that the next version of you.It's like. Of birth and death,
but you're doing it foryourself, rather than depending
on your counselor, depending onyour healer, depending on your
boyfriend, depending on someoneelse to do it for you. You're
doing it for yourself. I mean, Ithink that's another circling
back to the beginning of thisconversation. That's one of the
greatest gifts from our ourrelationship, is that when I do

(40:20):
have a contraction, you never,ever, ever feed this story.
Never, and you always, I'llnever forget when I was
triggered by that girl in Athensthat was my friend. But we were
very different, and it was justlike, Oh, I was so annoyed with
her. And I was like, she's soneedy. She said this. She said
that you're like, go and sit infront of the mirror. Here's
another practice. And you said,Go say those things to yourself.

(40:41):
Go sit in front of the mirrorand and and like, basically, you
just every time call me to go domy practice and to go be with
those parts of myself you. Andthen we have a deep, expansive
conversation about it after. Andthat is the most beautiful
thing, because it's like, it'sso easy, so like being stuck in
our patterns, it's so easy torely on someone else to try and

(41:04):
feel better, but that's notsustainable long term, and it
doesn't develop that part of youthat needs to become more
solidified so that you can walkthrough the world from your soul
with your heart wide open.

Yeah? And actually, when we don't do that
for each other, we actually helpeach other stay stuck. Yes, and
this is one of the ways that weactually keep our our patterns
and our stories stuck. We choosepeople around us that, you know,
like, let's complain about thisone thing together. Then, oh,
why? Why isn't anythingchanging? You know, but when we

(41:38):
do have friends it can lovinglyalso be like, actually, What?
What? What is the reflectionhere? What is this mirroring for
you? And then, like you said,when we do birth that part of
ourselves, and we do it enoughtimes to know what's on the
other side, which is like thejuice, it's the wholeness, it's

(42:00):
the self love. It's it. We leaninto the thing, the story that's
that might be coming up first,the trigger so much more because
we know what's on the other sidenow. So we can, like you said,
Oh my gosh, I know thisabsolutely sucks, but I know
what's on the other side. So I'mgoing to go in, instead of

(42:22):
actually try and numb this outor try and complain about it
with other friends or whatever,I'm going to go to the heart of
this, because I know I'm goingto actually meet my wholeness
and my self love here. There'ssomething in the reflection
where I'm not in my I'm not I'mseeing this as a fragmented

(42:47):
part. That's why I get people togo in the mirror a lot of the
times, and they get to see that,and they get to re member that
part of themselves as projectingit out into the world. When we
do that, and we do that enoughtimes, like when those the stuff
comes up that the triggeringstory, whatever, we go, Ooh,

(43:08):
what's the gold here? What's thetreasure that I can find? And we
go into it and through it, webirth the baby. We birth
ourselves, and we trust thatnow, and we have a little bit
more enthusiasm, dare I say, toactually go into it, versus

(43:30):
trying to fight or flight, youknow, to try and resist it, or
try to numb it, or whatever itis, because we know that that's
actually going To bring us morepain and suffering in the
future. So do I want to staystuck and keep re like churning

(43:50):
this old story about life, aboutmen, about people, about
whatever, or do I want to freemyself and move into a really
deep, loving, connected stateand frequency inside of me that
also I've seen over and overagain, that when I do that,

(44:12):
everything changes. That's wherethe true change and
transformation happens. So nowI'm a much more eager to go and,
quote, unquote birth the baby,versus actually stay stuck or
smaller in my quote, unquotecomfort zone.

Unknown (44:31):
Yeah, and everything comfortable for a little bit.
But that's not really good. It'snot real comfortable.

Yeah, familiar, discomfort, uncomfort zone, but
it's it the misery zone. It allof our desires, like we think
they come from chasing theseexternal things and clinging to
these external things, but theycome from exactly what you're
talking about. And then webecome a magnet, and we don't
have to do anything, evenpurpose. Everything, everything

(44:59):
happens. So much more easilybecause life brings it to you,
because you are matching thefrequency to that thing, as
opposed to thinking that thingis going to make me feel better,
because the only reason you wantthe guy or the job or the car or
the whatever is because youthink you're going to feel a
certain way when you have thatthing. So if you can create

(45:21):
those feelings, and you can, youcan expand and cultivate and and
and be, take, take charge of thefeeling frequency that you're
putting out in the world. Well,now you're going to become a
magnet to those things from theinside out, rather than becoming
a codependent on that thing tomake you feel good. And it'll
only work in the beginning, andthen you're gonna feel crappy

(45:43):
later.

Yeah, that. I love that. The the magnetism
that we exude when we're in thatstate is just so, so palpable.
And, and people can feel that,you know, and, and, and, you
know, bring it back to what wetalked about in the middle of,
what do I say? What do I do? Andthat's coming from mine. Versus

(46:04):
when you're in your heart andyour playfulness and you're in
your magnetism, you might saythe silliest, stupidest thing in
front of somebody, but becausesomebody can feel your heart,
they'll just simply laugh andthey'll it's beyond what you
think you might need to say ordo to win somebody's affection

(46:27):
or to win somebody over in anyway. Or, you know, I laugh,
because some people, when I gointo real like high powered
meetings, you know, they go, oh,did you prepare properly? And
did you bring your BulletproofBulletproof your bullet points,
bulletproof points and all ofthis stuff. And you know how

this PowerPoint, PowerPoint, PowerPoint, thank
you. You guys

were trying to understand what I was trying to
say there and and now I go intomeetings and I just show up in
full presence and trust whateverthe heck is going to come out of
my mouth is just the right thingat the right time, and it's so
much more fun. And people lovethat. They're like, oh my, I've

(47:14):
gotten feedback, which is like,it's so refreshing that
somebody's actually real, youknow, versus coming all overly
prepared and robotic andscripted, scripted, scripted
thing. And it's like, oh, peopleare responding to that so
differently, you know, even inthese work meetings, and guess

(47:35):
what? Then, from that place youbuild relationship. And if
anybody talks about anythingabout, like, success in the
world of, you know, the workworld, you know they talk about,
it's all about relationship. Butfirst of all, it's like, really
the relationship with yourself,and then it overlaps into

(47:57):
relationship with people andconnection. And you don't know
what's going to come out of yourmouth, and sometimes the thing
that is most important is thesilence. Like, sometimes I've
gone into meetings where it'slike, Thank God I didn't come
overly prepared with mystrategies, because I it was

(48:21):
more important for me to listenand receive than it was for me
to come with my own agenda,because they came up with ideas
that I hadn't even thoughtabout, and then I was able to
respond with the newness of anew idea, I wouldn't have made

(48:42):
room and space for it if I hadcome with all of my agendas. So
sometimes going into the silenceis is as important as anything,
just like me and you. Sometimeswe get on the phone, and we
might not say anything, Nick andI like, that was one of the

(49:06):
things that I it was sodifferent with him. I felt like
I didn't need to fill in thespace with him. We could just be
in silence, and then we're justhugging each other with our
frequency, and that's enough.

So, yeah. So beautiful. I was just thinking I
could hear all the women, allthe controllers, be like, No, I
have to prepare for the meeting.And I'm just thinking like, the
more time you spend hanging outin the silence with yourself and
in your heart, frequency and inmeditation, movement, writing,
all the things we're talkingabout, like really connecting

(49:41):
with the being part of yourhuman the more you have access
to your divine wisdom, which isfar more valuable than your
intellect and everything you'velearned from books and programs
and degrees and all of that,like you can be another robot
out there, or you. And actuallylet your soul speak, and that's

(50:02):
going to be the most influentialfor the most aligned people. For
you, right? If someone doesn'tlike that, perhaps they're not
aligned, but I just think of,you know, it doesn't mean, okay,
so for my masterclass, I stillprepare, but the day of, I
meditate, and then I write aflip chart of like ideas, and
then I reference it. Sometimes Ilook at it, sometimes I don't.
But also I'm in the channelsimultaneously. It's like I've

(50:24):
got some structure, like alittle bit of a structure, so
that I don't miss anything. Butalso, while I'm teaching, I'm
trusting that everything I sayis perfect and that it's all
going to come through, becauseit is coming from that deeper,
wiser, divine part that everysingle one of us has access to.
And I feel like so many humansare still don't even know the

(50:49):
superpower that they have insideof them, because they haven't
sat with themselves long enoughto feel it and to to discover
it. Yeah, yeah.

And like you said, too, it's not about like
not preparing at all. There'salways a sense of preparation,
you know, with obviously, youknow, we do live in a world of
structure, but finding thebalance between that level of
structure and also bringing youryour knowing, your nowness, your

(51:19):
intuition, your creativity, yourfemininity, and having it, you
know, you should again. It's allabout a wholeness. We not
negating one thing over theother, but just bringing both
aspects of self. And you know,for me with, like, when I go
into meetings, I've had, like,10 years of preparation, of, you

(51:40):
know, doing, you know, writingscript, the script and the
creative development. I've gotlike, 30 decks or whatever. But
again, even with those things,it's like, how am I showing up
in that creation as well, inthat preparation? Am I doing it
all from my head, or am I tuningin also from a different place

(52:02):
and from a listening place,using my intuition and bringing
that with me as well. So it'sYeah, and it's it's lovely to
show up in in with people andrelationships and meetings now
from that place, and it was, andthat's integration, right?
That's an it more of anintegrated space. And this is

(52:23):
that the concept of ourwholeness is like, bring all of
us to the table, not just one orthe other, but but all of us.
And they're all you know, evenwe speak about alignment, it's
like when we bring all of thoseaspects of ourselves in
alignment, then we attract theperson, the company, whatever

(52:47):
that is also a reflection ofthat internal alignment and
integrated space as

well. Yeah, and all of that is it can be applied,
like everything we just sharedabout going to a meeting, less
prepared, more connected, morelike I mean, when I prepare for
my masterclass, I spend likefive minutes writing the flip
chart, but I spend like threehours meditating and singing and
moving and writing andconnecting on a deeper and same

(53:15):
immersion. Every morning I'm upthree hours earlier, and every
morning I'm singing and dancingand meditating and writing. And
sometimes I write poetry.Sometimes I write raps. It's
like, and then I sometimesperform the RAPs immediately
after writing them. It's like,because whatever's meant to come
through that day for those womenwho are there, I'm present with
them. And I even think this lastimmersion, I felt more plugged

(53:37):
in than ever. New Material camethrough, new content. It was
like new practices, new newperspectives, and it was so new
because it was exactly what theyneeded to receive. But if I
wasn't open to the channel, andI wasn't plugged in to myself
and my wholeness and mysovereignty and my being, I
would have missed that. It wouldhave been the scripted thing

(53:57):
that that I did it every year.And you know, it wouldn't be
this fresh, new experience thatwas meant for them. And even I
think about how we're in adifferent time, the Aquarian Age
has begun, and like, of course,the immersion this year is not
gonna be the same as theimmersion last year, and it's
never the same. So that you canbring that that presence and
that energy, I was gonna say, todating too right, to your

(54:18):
relationships, to romanticrelationships. Imagine being
with someone 12 years yourpatterns want to see them a
certain way and just hold thepast against them, versus
plugging into yourself. And nowyou get to see Nick every
morning with fresh eyes, asopposed to projecting all the
past experiences and who youthink he is onto him. Yes,

oh yeah, yeah. And being in a long term
relationship like that, that isdefinitely the opportunity to do
that. And it, you know, it'sdefinitely easy to be like, you
know, capitalize on a person'spredictability, you know, as to
they're going to show up and bethis way. And all of that. And,

(55:01):
you know, talk about keepingsomebody else stuck, you know,
and then because, then thedynamic, then between you in the
story, stay stuck, and there'sno room for for growth and
change. And you know, that'simportant in relationships. You
know, think about how much meand you have changed, and in the
how since we first met eachother. About, what is it, six,

(55:24):
seven years ago. I mean, 1820,18, yeah, just like, oh my gosh,
you know. And, and we do that. Imean, totally guilty of that.
Like, Oh, I want to see you inthis way so I can see myself in
this way, you know, and keepthat identity for myself alive,

(55:49):
and that's like, I think, one ofthe opportunity, I don't want to
say challenges, butopportunities and relationships
that we find ourselves in andand seeing people with with new
eyes. But one of the ways Ithink we see people and new eyes
is living in the present moment,letting go of our own stories

(56:11):
and concepts of who we are andhow we are in the world. Right?
The more we do that, the more wecan do that for other people,

yeah, how often women say, like, when I'm
working with them, or they'relike, Oh, I'm so like this and
like, who's like that? Like,we're constantly externalizing
it to the saboteur, because it'slike, okay, you've been like
that in the past, but what ifsomething new is going to come
through? You know, you've alwaysbeen a perfectionist, or you've
always been a sacrifice, orwhatever the thing might be. But
if we constantly like we're thatare so much reconfiguration of

(56:44):
our patterns occurs when we tellstories about who we think we
are, and sometimes you thinkit's even a good thing, what?
But, but you're actuallylimiting yourself to
experiencing more of who youreally are.

Yeah, yeah. I used to do that a lot of times.
Like, I'm saying things like,Oh, I'm not a technical person.
I'm a creative and, like, reallyjust taking pride in that, you
know, I'm a creative, I'm not atechnical person. And then I
realized how much I was, like,shooting myself in the foot with

(57:19):
all of these other things thatkept me actually stuck or not
being able to progress in otherways that I wanted to, because I
was negating a certain aspect ofmyself. And guess what? When I
told myself the story that Iwasn't a technical person, I
became a non technical person,but as soon as I let go of that,
no, oh, that's that is becauseI've made it so and I let go of

(57:42):
the story, and was open to mebeing a really great at
technical, being technical. I Mybrain was switching on in a
whole new way that I was, like,surprised over and over again. I
was like, doo. Doo, doo. Thisother part took over where it
was just like, Oh, I did that,and I did this, and that was
pretty easy. And now sometimespeople come to me for technical

(58:05):
advice. And I mean, how did I dothat? It was only because I let
go of the story that was in theway of that, and all of a sudden
it's like, do we know ourcapacity

Unknown (58:19):
limitless?

We're limitless, the only thing that keeps us
stuck is our own limiting beliefsystems and stories that we tell
ourselves, whether it'sconsciously or sometimes
trickier, subconsciously, andthat's part of the beauty of
this work, is sometimes findingthose subconscious, as we've

(58:42):
called them, nuggets goldtreasures that are keeping
ourselves stuck or in the way ofexperiencing our limitless
consciousness and the limitlessbeauty and and, and it's, it's
hard to even put into words, butof who really, really

reality? Yeah, what? There's so much available
to us that we far beyond what Imean, what you and I have even
tapped into. We've been on thisjourney collectively almost 40
years, like me and you togetherhave both been on the journey
for 20 years. And I just thinkit's infinite, and one of the

(59:22):
ways to track your subconsciousbeliefs is when you are stuck in
a story about this externalthing and feeling relief if the
guy texts, or if the job goesthrough, if the whatever it's
like, and if it doesn't, andstart to ask yourself curious
questions. And if it doesn't,what it'll what will it mean
about me? What? What? What doesthis mean about me, that he's
not texting me back? What am Ibelieving about myself right

(59:44):
now? And ask yourself curiousquestions to get to the root,
and you'll know when you get tothe root, because it will feel
really uncomfortable and reallypainful, but that's how you can
start to uncover what's inthere, what's like playing
underneath the surface, but ifyou just stay in the story. Uh,
of I've been ghosted. You'rereconfiguring. You're that

(01:00:05):
wound. You're justreconfiguring. You're just and
you're also just living fromthat part of you. So there's no
opportunity here to heal a partof the little girl and to deepen
into that sovereign woman. Yeah,

Marianna Clark (01:00:19):
and, yeah, yeah. And one of those ways, like you
mentioned earlier, was to catchinstead of just letting them run
in the background and havingthem just be like, Oh, as soon
as, like, you catch yourselfhaving that thought of like, I'm
being ghosted. I must be there'ssomething wrong with me, or

(01:00:42):
something or here it goes again,like it's just the way men are.
Okay, let's just take that one.It's just the way men are in
this way. Write it down. That'sa story. Physicalize it. Take it
from the ethers of thesubconscious mind. Bring it
through your body as a physical,as your physical, you know

(01:01:05):
instrument, write it down,experience that feeling. Take a
moment to feel into that andthen anything that else comes up
might be anger, frustration,sadness, like feel all the
feelings that that one story isproducing chemically in your
body, that on some level, it'sit's addicted to because it is

(01:01:29):
like a drug. We find that it islike a drug, and then writing
the new truth down. Men are sotrustworthy. Men are so loving
and supportive of who I am. Ilove being in this beautiful
whatever the new story that thatyou want to have the experience

(01:01:52):
of, and what is that? So it'snot the thing. But what is the
feeling inside of you? Withinthat feeling supported? Ah, I'm
the one giving myself tosupport. So then all of a sudden
the you wanting to feel lovedand supported comes from from
yourself. And also the new storyis I'm feeling love and
supported within thisrelationship. I'm doing that now

(01:02:15):
with I'm writing before I go tobed, because I went to this
really cool workshop in Londoncalled Love brain. And there was
this neuroscientist talkingabout how before we go to bed,
if we write in all caps, this,this, you know, certain things
that we're experiencing or wantto experience, and right before

(01:02:37):
we go to bed, our brain kind oftakes that in as a as a reality,
and so I'm working with this oneright now. She's like, I love my
team, like my creative team,right? I don't know who my
creative team is right at thismoment, but I know what the
feeling would feel like ofhaving a wonderful team that I

(01:03:01):
love and loves me, and we'recreating in this way,
collaboratively. I know whatthat feeling is, so I give that
to myself. I'm in that I am myloving, creative team that I
love, and that that's the newthat's the new truth, that is
the new truth. So how much of mytime am I living in that new

(01:03:26):
truth versus in my old myth? Theamount of time, the amount of
time we spend livingenergetically in our new truth,
is how much that's going tostart getting manifested or
magnetized to us in our reality.It's just going to start

(01:03:50):
mirroring that experience,mirroring that internal
landscape that we areconsciously co creating.

Kate Harlow (01:04:00):
Yes, life is a frickin mirror. Is it ever a
mirror? And we get exactly thething that we're believing
internally. I was thinking,laughing, thinking about the
trigger I had with the guyfriend a couple of years ago
that you helped me through, andI wanted so badly you to, like,
hate him with me and like to bethe story like I was so mad. And

(01:04:20):
it was a trigger that, like,when I actually went into it, it
was like, Whoa, you said youhate men. A part of you hates
men. And I was like, No, I don'tlike what I don't and you're
like, Yeah, part of you does.And I was so defensive. And then
I went into it, it was like, mencan't be trusted. Men are the
worst. And it was, you know, formany years of working with women

(01:04:41):
and hearing so many storiesabout men, there had been this
like energy and also some of myexperiences that it stuck to me.
And I didn't. I wasn't a manhater before doing this work,
and it was there, and I didn'teven know it was there, but I
didn't have any male friends atthe time. I only had women in my
life, and. And so I went intoit, and I looked at all the

(01:05:04):
stories, I looked at all thebeliefs, and I sat with them,
and I felt them

and the feelings around that, oh yeah, got to
unlock all of the anger and therage and the frustrations and
the horror, you know, and likegetting to the core of the
feeling that keeps it all there.

Unknown (01:05:23):
Yes, it was so it's so powerful,

and that's the most important thing, the feeling.
Because you can't just, like,write the positive thing on the
thing, if you haven't actuallyfelt and moved the feeling, yes,
otherwise it's just puttingicing on poo. Like it's still,
you don't want to eat thecupcake. It's still poop,

like positive affirmations, yes, don't work
because of that,

exactly because you have to move the energy. And
when I did, I look at my lifenow, and I love men, and I have
so many amazing men in my life,and I feel so supported by men,
and I feel so much more intimatewith men, like connected to men,
strangers on the street, like, Ijust have a completely different
experience. And I didn't even,at the time know that I had a
discord with men other than Iwas like, Oh, I don't think I

(01:06:07):
ever want a boyfriend again.Like, when I left Jeff, I was
like, I don't think I ever wantlove again. I was shut down from
romantic love at the time, and,you know, just like not and also
feeling like, I don't think I'llever like anyone again, because
I was looking around like notfeeling anything for any man,
because that was underneath, andI didn't even know. So triggers
are such a gateway, if you knowand you practice, so you and I

(01:06:32):
practice our practices every dayto build the capacity, to build
the desire for us sitting in ourown living room of love
internally. Like to create, tocreate that sanctuary inside. We
have the practice already. Andthen on top of the daily
practice, when we're activated,we go in, and that's the key. Is
like you build the practiceevery day, so that when you are

(01:06:53):
activated, you know that's thesafest space to go, is to
actually go through the feelingsand the stories and all of that.
So oh my gosh, I feel like youand I could talk forever. I know
we do every day, but yeah, sobeautiful. So I would say any
final words you want to sayabout just old patterns and

(01:07:16):
about working with you. I knowmy life has drastically changed
since you came into it, and havehelped me deepen on my own
journey with all your practicesand your spiritual perspectives
and your teachings and and areyou open to working with women
right now?

Yeah, I do have a couple spots. I only take a
limited one on one coachingclients, but I do have room now
that I've moved back here andgot settled in California for a
couple women to do one on onecoaching So absolutely, and to
your point earlier, I think itis so important to have you

(01:08:00):
know, people that can lovinglyand objectively point out some
of these subconscious thingsthat we might feel total
resistance to at first, like youwere talking about with the man
hating thing, but wow, it'slike, that's the thing that
causes the most transformationin Your Life. And you know, I

(01:08:22):
know you've done that for memany times in my life, and
that's what I think is sobeautiful, that we can have this
honest yet loving feedback thatwe can give each other. But I
guess the last words are, youknow, it is so possible to

(01:08:45):
access these parts of ourselveswith, you know, obviously
podcasts like this that help usremember to return to who we
truly are, to be seen who we areby amazing women. And, you know,
I'm just so grateful for you andmy life, and I talk about you to

(01:09:08):
everyone all the time, and ourand our relationship, I just
feel so blessed that I'm able tohave a relationship like this.
And you know, I attribute it to,you know, the work that I've
done with I know we've talkedabout my mentor that I've had in
the past that has changed mylife. And it is important

(01:09:29):
sometimes, when we we have ahard time accessing these
subconscious stories to to havepeople that can help identify
those and help us birth thebaby, birth the baby of our
truest selves, and to know thatit can be sometimes it can be

(01:09:51):
challenging, but thosechallenges can be the most
rewarding when we see what's onthe other side. And, and, yeah,
I'm just grateful to be on thispodcast and to you know, Kate
and I were talked about like,what is it that we want to share

(01:10:16):
with these women today, or menand and men. And the one thing
that came up for me is to, like,feel like I'm just loving
everyone on the deepest level,as as myself. And so I guess my
last words come from the heartis that I love you all so much,

(01:10:42):
and I love you, katyana, somuch.

I love you so beautiful. And I love having you
on this is, I think, your thirdappearance, or fourth appearance
on the new truth. We got aregular here. It's kind of
you're my co facilitator, whenyou can. I so those of you that
don't know we have a joint name,katiana. Is our name, Kate and
Mariana, katiana, and there is ababy calf. Well, I think it's

(01:11:07):
getting older now. It's aboutit's over a year. It's about a
year and a half, a year and ahalf year old calf in Kenya at
olopangi Farm, named afterkatyana, which in Swahili means
the seductive one. We learnedthat when we were there, they
were shocked when we suggestedto name the cow katiana, but we
won in the end. So I love you somuch. I'm so grateful for you,

(01:11:31):
and I love that we can model thenew paradigm of sisterhood and
female relationship to so manywomen are longing for this, and
it does exist in everything weshared today. When you live from
your heart, when you live fromyour truth, your wholeness, you
attract, you attract it. And wecame very magically into each
other's lives because we were,we were on the same frequency,

(01:11:54):
on the same channel. So I loveyou so much. Thank you for all
your wisdom and your beauty andyour magic, and thank you. I
love you, and as always, sharethis episode with every woman
you know.

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