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December 20, 2023 43 mins

Animal experimenters like Harvard's Margaret Livingstone continue to spend your tax dollars on useless tests that only end up torturing and killing animals. Dr. Katherine Roe, a former NIH researcher and now chief scientist for PETA's Laboratory Investigations Department, discusses how researchers like Livingstone build a career on cruelty masquerading as curiosity, including her latest strobe tests with monkeys. Roe talks about her own career and how others fall into the "science" trap in this conversation with Emil Guillermo.

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The PETA Podcast

PETA, the world's largest animal rights organization, is 9 million strong and growing. This is the place to find out why. Hear from insiders, thought leaders, activists, investigators, politicians, and others why animals need more than kindness—they have the right not to be abused or exploited in any way.

Hosted by Emil Guillermo.

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Originally released Dec. 19,  2023.

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