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December 29, 2025 21 mins

CEO, president, and founder of the Clinician Burnout Foundation Jodie Green and physician advocate and physical therapist Kim Downey discuss their article "Why wellness programs fail health care." Jodie and Kim explain why traditional wellness initiatives often add to the burden rather than relieving it for exhausted medical professionals. They introduce the concept of the quicksand effect where meaningful help becomes impossible to grasp amidst systemic failure and advocate for immediate practical support like transportation and child care. The conversation covers alarming statistics regarding physician suicide and nurse safety in the U.S. while addressing the critical difference between burnout and moral injury. Real change happens when we lift the burden from those who care for us to restore their capacity and hope.

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