Faith + Finances = Legacy: How Antione Anderson Builds Kingdom Wealth

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Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Profit in the Christian Businesspodcast.
I am delighted to have my new friend, Antoine Anderson with me here today.
Antoine and I met probably a few weeks ago, learned a lot about him.
It was through a networking event that we both attended and I was like, I gotta get thisman on my podcast because we quickly, we had alignment on a lot of things.

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So I was like, yeah, let's share some of your wisdom with my audience.
So glad to have you here, Antoine.
I appreciate that, man.
Likewise, I was definitely excited about coming on.
That conversation that we had right there could have been recorded, because there was alot of...
why I love meeting people and knowing that, man, this person has a lot of value to sharewith people, so let's get them in front of as many people as we can.

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So ah with that being said, let's do a short introduction.
Tell everybody who you are what you do.
Yeah, so my name is Antoine Anderson.
I've been married for 19 years, going on 20 years to my better half, Amanda Anderson.
We live here in Phoenix, Arizona.
We are pastors of a church called 210 Church here in Phoenix, Arizona.

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We're blessed with the opportunity to church plant here.
And so in the process of that, we also are what we call bivocational.
So we have our own businesses.
for very long time.
We were in the community doing group homes for youth and adolescents.
And we have since transitioned to business coaching, personal coaching, and also helpingindividuals with their finances.

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And so at the heart of everything we do is discipleship.
In this season, we're really helping individuals identify the different strategies tomanage their finances better, be better stewards of what God has granted them to do.
um Awesome, awesome, awesome.
uh Real quick question, where did you live before Phoenix?
I'm originally from Kansas City, Missouri.

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Die Hard Chiefs fan.
I've been with the Chiefs since, I don't know when, since the 80s.
So, yes sir, I'm a Die Hard Chiefs fan, man.
People laugh because they think that my affinity with the Chiefs just started with PatrickMahomes.
And then I start saying things like, if you don't know who David Craig is, ChristianMcCoy, that you don't know, you don't know who real Chiefs There you go.

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Yeah, a nightmare.
I've been a fan of the Chiefs for a long time, but it's because that's I'm from.
Originally from Kansas City, Missouri, grew up right there, graduated from a school calledRaytown South High School.
So Kansas City, Missouri, on the Missouri side, not the Kansas side, we always make that,make sure you understand that there is a difference, right?
So yeah, originally from Kansas City, moved to Arizona in 2004, actually.

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So um are you following the suns at all?
No.
I'm a basketball fan.
I played basketball in high school.
My son is really, really good basketball.
So I'm a huge basketball fan.
But because we didn't have a team growing up, I just like a lot of teams.
I like to watch the game.
I don't have an alliance or loyalty to a basketball team like I do for football andbaseball.

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Nice.
Well, I know you and I could probably talk sports for a while, but we're going to get intosome other topics.
But real quick, like one of the things that for me is I don't usually follow teams.
I follow players.
There's a, there is one team that I follow and that's the Clemson Tigers because I'm righthere, 30 minutes away.
I grew up a Florida state fan actually, cause I lived in Florida, but then I feel likethat the culture got changed a lot, not too long ago.

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at Florida State and I just adopted Clemson as my team and been with them for a while now.
um go back to, I follow players, Michael Jordan, right?
I thought wherever Michael Jordan was, I mean, he was with the Bulls most of the time, buteven when he went to the Wizards.
with the bulls, but yeah.
uh Peyton Manning, with Peyton Manning Switch Teams, I just followed Peyton Manning.

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uh
Nah, also man, yeah, we so basketball I follow players too because again, we don't have avery specific team.
oh I'm a huge MJ fan.
We always get into that debate MJ or LeBron.
You know, I'm a huge MJ guy, but I also graduated high school and played during the sametime that LeBron did.
So I have a immense amount of respect for LeBron as well.

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However, I'm an MJ guy.
LeBron is phenomenal.
If you had to ask me who was the greatest ever.
I would say MJ is the greatest ever, but LeBron probably has the better longevity for hiscareer.
And so, yeah.
I am 100 % in agreement with you.
And I think it's the young people that didn't actually, like they see clips of MJ, butthey didn't actually watch him play like a full games.

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Like they just don't get it.
LeBron, hey, Michael Jordan was a bad man.
And I think some of the younger generation now, they really haven't even really seenLeBron at his peak.
mean, I remember one of my friends, he laughs at me all the time because LeBron's firstgame was phenomenal.
And I remember going to work and saying, hey man, this dude, this dude is going to be oneof the best players to ever play the game.

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So the younger folks, they just see this version of LeBron.
They don't see when he came out of high school how dominant he was.
Yeah, yeah, very, true.
ah So let's dive into it.
I have a few fun questions.
We've already been having some fun with the sports, but ah if you have a morning routineand we peeked at it, what's one thing most people wouldn't expect from a financial
strategist and a pastor?

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Um, I don't know if it's I would say they wouldn't expect it, but every morning I wake mywife wakes me up to get take my kids to school and such.
But every morning I do have that time where I spend with prayer and I do get into my myBible, my word every morning.
Like I said, I don't know.
They wouldn't necessarily expect that.
I drive an electric car, so I take my kids to school.

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And I thought drop my kids off at school.
I always go to the charging station and the charging station serves sort of as that time.
in the morning where I'm able to kind of have some very dedicated time, because I got tocharge my car anyway.
So I always take books and have prayer time.
Sometimes I make phone calls.
But yeah, so I don't know if they wouldn't expect that.
They probably would with me being a pastor.

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But yeah, getting up, making sure I have that quiet time, that prayer time, and that timein the Word as well.
Yeah, I'm a big believer in taking that time, like priorities, right?
Time with the Lord above everything else.
Like we do a lot of goal setting.
My clients, we share the Prophet Christian Business Plan in our journal, but even in that,say your main priority is spending time with the Lord.

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Everything else comes after that.
Yeah, 100%.
And you know, we teach our kids that as well.
So whenever I take my children to school, we do daily devotions.
And so I've taught them how to end the And they know when we first get in the car, beforethey turn on music, before they take their morning nap, because it's about 30 minutes
drive to school, they get into their devotion, they have to read it, they have to give mean understanding of what it was about.

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How does it speak to them?
How do they apply it to their life?
And then how do they pray it?
And so maybe that might be something people may not necessarily, that may be a surprise.
Cause my kids are in high school and they know every, my daughter, typically sits in theback.
My son sits in the front and they get in and say, hey dad, I've my daily devotion.
All right, what was it about?
Okay, how did it, you know, how did it speak to you?
How does, how do you, how does it apply it to your life?

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And then how do you pray it?
And that's something that we've made a practice of because I want them to be able to takewhat God gives them out of his word and apply it.
Don't just get it from information, but to get that revelation.
of the truth and how you actually apply that to your life.
And then how do you pray?
How do you have conversation with God based on what you get?
Wow.
I think that's a gold nugget right there, people.

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If you're a parent, think about the times, like that car time, right?
If you're taking kids to school, boom, you've got their captured attention during thattime, right?
Sometimes it's hard to get your kids' attention all in one place.
So that would be a perfect time if you want to adapt something that Antoine does.
I think it do you wonders in raising your children and following.

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in the right things to do.
So thanks for that, man.
You know, problem at all.
All right, so um I don't know if you have you ever watched Ted talks?
oh I see little clips of them.
I'm not like a huge oh TED Talk person that watch it.
Not saying anything bad about them, but I just never really kind of got into them.

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Nice.
Well, one of my questions for you is if you were to give a speech that wasn't around faithor finance and perhaps it would be a TED talk, what topic would you choose?
If it wasn't around faith or finance, that's kind of hard because faith is is all, youknow, as all aspects of my life.
um I would probably say it would be around purpose, which really should be, can beconnected to your, your faith as well.

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But if I had, if I was doing a TED talk, I would definitely talk about purpose and theimportance of understanding what your purpose is and living your purpose out.
Nice, nice.
One of the things that we do on every single Profit with Christian Business podcast is thefill in the blank question.
And your fill in the blank question is, kingdom entrepreneurship starts with blank.

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Kingdom entrepreneurship starts with godly vision.
Yeah, godly
that.
How do you develop godly vision?
So if I'm a kingdom entrepreneur, that means that I am a citizen of the kingdom.
And the king is the one who essentially sets the standard and moves it forward and setsthe vision.
So if I'm a kingdom entrepreneur and I don't have godly vision because God isn't a king,then I'm literally moving my business in a direction that is counter to the kingdom.

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And so if I don't have godly vision, what am I pursuing?
If I'm a kingdom entrepreneur.
So if I don't have godly vision,
I'm pursuing after something that does not align with the kingdom, which can be counter tothe kingdom.
So I shouldn't call myself a kingdom entrepreneur.
I just call myself an entrepreneur.
So would you say, this is something I would believe, in order to develop that godly visionor to get God to give you that vision, would be consistency in your prayer life, right?

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And praying for God to route your steps.
100%.
It would be that, consistent prayer life.
And then getting familiar with his word, because the word kind of sets the tone for us,right?
So if you don't have a real, you know, Bible foundation that can not only give you apicture, but give you some of the characteristics of the king and some of the things that

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he's already done, because a kingdom entrepreneur is not a new thing.
This is not something that just got created today.
There are many kingdom entrepreneurs in here.
And so if I don't have that prayer life and I'm having conversation with God about it, andthen if I don't look at an example of it on an ongoing basis, then it's easy for me to get
out of track because what am I measuring this to?

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What am I comparing this to?
So having that prayer life 100 % because that speaks to having communication with God andlistening, not just talking, right?
I got to be able to listen, but then having the ability to spend time in the Word so thatI can see an example, I can get an understanding of what these things actually look like.
Nice.
I just had a men's Bible study this morning.

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We're doing this thing called man battles that our pastor had given us.
And one of the things that we talked about this morning was the things that we pray for.
So many people pray for outcomes, right?
And we don't pray for the spiritual fruits.
With kind of what you're saying, I'm thinking if we pray more for the spiritual fruits anddirection and instruction than we do just on outcomes, our lives would play out totally

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differently.
Yeah, 100 % because to be honest, the spiritual fruit really should be as a kingdomentrepreneur, that really should be the goal.
mean, if that's not producing the spiritual fruit is not one of my goals, again, goingback to the first question for us, kingdom entrepreneur, then how do I define or how do I

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say that I'm a kingdom entrepreneur?
If I don't have...
that on the list, right?
Because that's what God desires.
That's why he desires for us to produce fruit, spiritual fruit, right?
It's gonna be manifested, if you will, from a natural standpoint, but that is the goal.
And if that's not on that list, what am I really doing?
Yeah, I think as much as I've talked to you before, think you also don't believe inmanifestation like I don't, but to use to say it this way, things become manifested by

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being obedient and following God's word.
It's not like instant manifestation, but if you do the right things in the right order,God will bless you for being obedient.
Would you say that?
yeah, because manifestation, that word, literally all that means is that we are seeing orexperiencing something without one of our five senses.
Right.
And so we believe by faith and we move in faith.

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And as we move in faith, God comes into agreement with us and then it takes place in theEarth realm.
And so it's not saying, I want to manifest this.
No, what it's saying is I believe by faith.
And as I move in faith, God is going to respond and then I'll start to see what I havefaith for.
So when I say manifest, it's definitely not that whole
manifestation movement that people have.
That's not it at all.

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But it's been, it's the reality that the things in which I'm believing God for, the thingsthat he has spoken to me, I will see that come to pass in the earth realm.
That's what I'm talking
Yes, um let's sit here for a second because one of things that I like to talk about aswell is expectation.
A lot of people pray wishes.
They don't pray expectation.

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God has made promises, right?
And there's promises in His word.
So we should expect Him to deliver on His promises that He's already said in His word,right?
So can you talk a little bit about that?
Yeah, I mean, I think you started out by having a very, I don't want to say acontroversial statement.
You said something that was really good.
I don't know if people caught that.

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We pray wishes, not even to say godly expectations, right?
So I think that when it comes to us making sure that our prayers are in alignment withwhat God has already promised, what do we have to do?
We have to spend time in the Word because this is the thing.
As a kingdom minded entrepreneur, my main focus shall not just be this multimillionairejust for the sake of having multimillion dollars.

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Finances are those resources or tools to move forward the vision and the mission that Godhas set forth for my life.
And so my goal shouldn't just be something so carnal, if I can say it that way, as God isgoing to make me this multimillionaire.
Because some of us wish for that, but that's not.
you know, that's not the reality of it.
Right.
And so if I don't have the right understanding on what his promises are, I will startpraying for things.

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I will start expecting the wrong things.
And then when I expect the wrong things and start praying for the wrong things and thosethings don't happen, now I become discouraged and stop moving in the direction because I
have my eyes on the wrong prize of my eyes on the wrong thing.
When God says, I never told you that I never promised you that.
And so now I'm upset with him for something that he never

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told me to be expecting from him to begin with.
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
uh Came up recently in a podcast is sometimes we, I said this, think sometimes we shouldactually pray for withholding, for God not to give us things because we are not ready,
right?
So.

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uh
will require great maturity.
I don't know too many people, I don't know too many people that I could say that wouldwant to pray in that capacity to say, God, withhold this from me because I'm not ready for
that.
I have prayed for some things like that before.
I remember there was a season in my life, and I was kind of a very young believer in thisjourney, actually.

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And I remember having like a quick three minute
kind of imagination if I was to win the lottery, right?
And all of a sudden I became very heavy and sorrowful because I started thinking about allthese different things.
And I remember sharing this with one of the deacons at the church I was at.
And I was like, you know what?
I'm not ready for that.
I'm not ready for everything that comes with that.

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God, know what?
I don't want that right now, right?
But it was because I believe God showed me that I wasn't ready for it.
And so I had a communication with him on that light, but a lot of people are not at thatplace.
that they can pray and say, God, I'm not ready for it.
Those are the mature saints.

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Yeah, yep, yep.
And I think, again, just going back to prayer life and praying for God to give you thewisdom, right?
Again, another thing that he promises, right?
He will give us wisdom if we pray for it.
Pray for the wisdom to ask for the things that we are ready for and not the things thatwe're not, right?
100%.
I like that.
uh Another staple of the Profit for Christian Business podcast is our secret question, andwe might have alluded to some of this stuff already, but what is the secret to aligning

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our careers and businesses with calling and purpose?
What is to know that they're not separate?
That's the thing.
I heard a preacher say this many years ago.
He said, you they asked him, you know, how is it that you do all this stuff?
And he says, you may see me doing all this stuff, but I see me doing one thing.
And so what's what we tend to do sometimes is we tend to limit our calling to church, whatwe consider to be church work or ministry work, not understanding that.

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The reality is if it's my calling, it's my calling wherever I go.
It's my calling wherever God has planted me to have that sphere of influence.
And so I can't separate what I do in my, what I would say my career or my, or in themarketplace for what I do or how I serve within the church or the ministry that I'm
connected to.
I have to understand that it's all connected.

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Now I may, it may be expressed differently in those different environments.
but it's still me, it's still the same thing.
I say I have the same calling, I say I have the same skills, I still have the samegifting.
It's just being able to have that wisdom, like you mentioned.
God, do I express this in this environment, in this area of my life?

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And so I think if many of us understood that a lot more, I just believe, and maybe I'mjust too optimistic, but I believe if many of us understood that more,
then we will see a lot more movement from a kingdom perspective when people are in themarketplace because they do not separate the two.
They don't say, well, this is for church or this is for ministry.
No, God is invested in me.

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He has a calling on my life.
He's planted me here.
Therefore my calling stage goes with me.
It don't stay at home.
It don't stay at the church.
It don't stay in a car.
My calling goes where I'm called to be.
Yeah, I love all that.
And I think it's especially important for men.
And the reason I say that is because we can tend to compartmentalize our lives.

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I'm working.
When I'm working, we separate family from work even.
We separate faith from work.
It's all like, this is what I'm doing because we are focused.
Women can focus on multiple things and get multiple things, more things done at once thanwe can.
So props to them.
um
tells me all the time that I can't multitask and I keep trying to prove her wrong but Ican't not prove her wrong.

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I have a hard time multitasking.
So you're right, women are able to do multiple things at once.
What we as men, just, many of us don't have that gift.
Yeah.
and, there was something that I struggled with in the, the, the reason the ProphetChristian Business podcast and everything that we do even exists is because I had that
conflict with God about faith and marketplace.

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And I was like, God, you want me to reach the lost.
How am I going to track the loss when I'm, when I'm throwing out my Christianityeverywhere I go, but basically it just intertwined.
can't separate it.
It's intertwined with everything that I do.
So
yeah, no one said I think one of the things that I, one of my favorite quotes that I heardyears ago too, he says, you you preach and you teach to everyone you come in contact with,

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but you only use words when you have to.
And ultimately what that spoke to me was that my greatest message, my greatest sermon ishow I behave, how I live my life.
And so when I go to work and I had a very real encounter with this, my wife and I workedat a call center some years ago.
And I remember this lady, the young lady who stood across from me, she was not a believer.

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She was atheist.
And she made that known to me and I was okay with that.
But we developed a relationship and she used to ask me questions about my faith.
And she said, you know, I can talk to you about this in ways that I've never been able totalk to anybody else.
And she was asking a lot of questions, but it was based on how I carried myself thatopened up the opportunity for me to have a conversation with her.

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And to be honest with you, it was one day that I came in and I must've been annoyed orsomething, because she pulled me to the side.
said, you know, today you're a little bit shorter with the customers than you normallyare.
And so, you know, I had to check myself because again, she was watching it.
And so when we talk about carrying our faith, our Christianity, our belief in Jesus,wherever we go, it's not always going in trying to say something with our mouth.

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Our greatest witness sometimes can be how we carry ourselves.
When you're at your company that you work at and the managers of the job or the CEOs givebad news, or we got to cut everybody's salary or whatever the case may be, how do you
respond to that?
How are you going to separate yourself?
Because that's your witness.
And then people will say, well, why aren't you upset?
Why aren't you panicking?

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And then you'll be able to articulate it from your mouth why that is.
But you got their attention because of your behavior.
Yeah, yeah, that's so good.
And the other point about that is I love how you're talking about our Christian witness,because some people will go out there and Bible thump and judge.
And to me, it's all about building relationships.

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And we're all sinners.
There's not a one of us that is spotless.
Right.
So when we go out here in the community, like if a lot of our human nature is like, man,that person is like bad.
Right.
But how
look back at our own past, right?
There, like maybe we've grown as Christians, but there were times when we, someonemight've been looking at us like that, right?

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for sure.
You say you got to build a relationship, right?
It's like we want to disciple someone without the relationship.
That comes across as being a dictator or being judgmental.
Even in our businesses, a lot of businesses become profitable.
Why?
Because they build relationship with their customers, their customers grow to trust themthat whatever area of expertise, mine's finance or whatnot, whatever your area of

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expertise, they build that relationship with where they trust you.
Now they're willing to listen to you.
The same thing when it comes to discipleship, some things when it comes to your witness.
We have to build relationship with people first.
And as we build relationship, now they give you permission to speak into their life.
In business, now they give you permission to offer them a product.
They give you permission to do whatever.

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It's the same thing.
We have to build relationship there first.
Yeah, yeah, so, so key.
So I love how you uh transitioned that because it doesn't matter whether it's ministry orit's in business.
The way that you win, you win people to Christ and you win people in business is buildingthose relationships.
Yeah, 100%.
That's so key.

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I mean, it is.
I if me and you were standing on a corner selling hats and somebody walks up that knowsyou, even if my hat is better, they'll probably buy from you because they know you.
They have a relationship with you.
My hat can be better than yours.
They don't know me.
They don't trust me.
They don't have a relationship with you.

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To some degree, people, understand that in business, but for whatever reason, again,separating.
We don't understand that when it comes to ministry.
I gotta have relationship with someone in order to speak into their life so that they canallow me to speak into their life.
Because not just anybody is not gonna just allow you to speak into their life.
Yeah, yeah, love that.

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Let's transition a little bit.
I want people to know more about what you do.
So let's talk about finance a little bit.
So I know that you help people build wealth outside of the traditional 401k plans.
What's the mindset shift professionals need to make start?
Let me start over.
We'll edit that.
You're watching the recording.

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Yeah.
So let's talk about outside of traditional 401ks, what's the mindset shift professionalsneed to make to start thinking legacy over limitations.
So it's just, it's just that they have to, we have to a step back and understand there'smore than one way.
There's always, I'm always saying there's more than one way to skin a cat, right?
And so sometimes we are just so locked in on what we're used to or what somebody has beentelling us or what everybody else is doing.

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And that's not always the right way or that's not always the right thing for me.
We are not believers that there's one way.
And so we start by
really trying to get people to take a step back and be open to learning somethingdifferent.
And it's a challenge.
mean, you say, instance, if it's talking about somebody, the food that they eat, trying toteach them to eat different, their mindset says, no, this is the way I'm supposed to eat.

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The same thing is there with finances and finances is a very touchy touchy subject forpeople, which I understand.
But the thing is, is professionals need to understand, let's take a step back.
Let's see if what else is out there for us to build legacy because
Before the 401k, for instance, was introduced, what was people doing then?

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Right?
People that don't have a 401k, what are they doing?
Not saying again, not trying to just bash the 401k all the way over the head.
There's some benefits, there's some limitations to it.
There's just, there just are.
So we just got to be able to come to a place to understand that, listen, let's look atwhat other ways outside of just what we consider to be traditional, what are some other

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opportunities for us to be able to build wealth and pass legacy?
So that's the first thing is that I would say is people just have to have an open mind tolisten to what else is out there.
Yeah, I think for a lot of people, it's so confusing.
There are so many ways to invest and make money in today's environment.
they just, again, I think let's just touch on relationship again.

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That's why they need someone like you to build a relationship with them, understand whattheir needs are, right?
um And customize what uh the best thing for them, not just give them a blanket, hey,here's your 401k, go and run with it, right?
Yeah, 100%.
And I love what you said there's so many different ways, right?
Then I'm gonna try to you this short example that I kind of share with you.

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You can go to a master chef's kitchen and they have all these different seasonings and youcan bring your meat to the table, whether it's chicken, whether it's beef, whatever it is,
you bring it to the table, but you got all these different seasonings.
You can be overwhelmed by just looking in there and seeing all these seasons.
You don't necessarily know what seasons taste like, what does it do for your body.

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You don't understand all that.
You just got all these amazing choices.
This is called that.
Unless someone comes in and tells you, hey, this seasoning is good for this, even thoughit may taste good, it's probably not good for this part of your body.
You need someone to come in and kind of give you guidance so that you can make the correctdecisions.
There's a statistic to say that if someone has, whether it's a financial advisor orsomeone that is coming alongside of them, giving them some understanding,

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about the different vehicles that are out there, the likelihood for them to be moresuccessful in that area of their life and finances is higher than someone who does not
have someone that's coming to give them the understanding.
Now make sure you hear what I said, not telling them what to do, giving them theunderstanding.
Because a lot of people show up to tell you what to do without giving you theunderstanding, but you need someone they can show up beside you and say, Hey,

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I need to get the understanding of this.
And that's one of the things that kind of separates us, in my opinion, is that we givemore understanding.
We do this thing called teaching the three simple rules of money.
And we do it without what I would consider to be a dog in a fight.
And so we tell them about these three specific areas, very specific areas, when it comesto the rules of money, make sure that they have an understanding of that.

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And then we show them the different options, including the traditional way of investing.
But it's about understanding
what these different things, different tools, different rules of money is so that they canmake a more informed decision on what they're doing.
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
uh I just had a, I guess a scenario of that.

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Yesterday, I had someone come alongside me in one of my investments, and they just know awhole lot more than I do.
And we looked at it and immediately, maybe it was two days ago, but immediately I madethis the switches that they recommended and and boom, I started I was losing money now I'm
making money.
Right.
So I was trying to do it alone.

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Right.
So it was
And we typically, lot of us do because again, like you said, there's so much out there canbe so confusing.
And then we hear all these horror stories of people and or companies showing up and beingmore concerned about their bottom line than yours.
And there are people out there, there are people in our industry all day long that areshowing up to take advantage of people.
We know that it's real.
That's why it's so important for us to sort of change that narrative to show that, thereare individuals out there that genuinely care about what it is that you're doing and how

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to...
past uh resources on legacy wise, but a lot of people resist that because of the horrorstory.
So grateful and thank God that you have someone that you trust that you say, this is whatI'm looking at.
How can I figure this out?
But a lot of people resist that because of the horror stories that they hear.
Yeah, yeah.
So getting someone that you trust is huge.

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I mean, it all circles back to that relationships, right?
Building those relationships and having someone that you can tell actually cares about notjust your finances, but you as a person, right?
So, mm-hmm.
grandchildren, your great grandchildren that aren't even in existence yet.
So yeah, absolutely.
want you to just have money for today, but have money for your children and theirchildren.

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Nice.
So um what's one overlooked financial strategy that believers should consider if they wantto secure tax-free retirement?
Number one, you need to understand that there is such a thing as tax free retirement.
um And then I would say that don't, because there's this thing that people feel like lifeinsurance vehicles are these big, bad, terrible things.

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They're not.
People have been using them for years.
It's just making sure that you have individuals that understand it, again, and thenunderstand how to structure it.
But again, if you don't have some form of understanding, then you won't know if they knowwhat they're doing.
And so you don't have to go to the school and try to figure it all out yourself, but youneed to be able to ask questions like when you go into a conversation with a financial

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advisor or an agent that comes up and is trying to get you to get into a specific product.
You need to be asking questions about the product.
You need to ask about whether the tax ramifications, is there a way that we can have sometax exemption or some tax free portions of this?
You need to ask more questions.
If I can say another thing that's overlooked, there's no such thing as a bad questionexcept the one you don't ask.

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Mm-hmm.
ever feel like that you should not ask questions because this is dealing with the moneythat you have worked hard for.
God has blessed you with skills, talents, abilities, opportunities to go in and providefor your family.
Now you're entrusting this with someone you need to ask more questions and understand thatthere are tax free, legal tax free opportunities that you can build for the future.

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One of the things that I, one of the questions I ask people
And this might start a whole nother conversation, but I ask people, say, listen, if you'rea farmer, right?
And I gave you a hundred seeds in your hand and I asked you, would you prefer me to taxyou on the seed or tax you on the harvest?

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What would you say?
And a lot of people are stuck there.
I want you to tax me on the seed because once you tax me on the seed, I can give you that.
that percentage of whatever that is, but the harvest now belongs to me because you'vealready got yours.
And so when people start thinking about that, when we think about some of the ways andsome of the vehicles that we use to prepare for retirement, many of us are telling, hey,

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taxes on the harvest and not on the seed.
And so there are vehicles, there are ways for us to say, hey, taxes on the seed, meaningtax it upfront, pay it upfront and put it in a place and environment that it can grow tax
free.
And so those things exist out there, but people just need to be made aware of.
Yeah, I remember I took life insurance and I'm sure many people still even do this to thisday, life insurance exactly for what it says, that it wasn't a financial vehicle, it was

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just somewhat for me, like if something happens to me, my family's taking care of it.
But there's so much more to it.
if that's what your sentiment is, like, what you think of life insurance is exactly whatit says, it's so much more than that.
So talk to someone like uh Antoine.
And if I can say it like this, it's called life insurance.

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It's not called death insurance.
We treat it as death insurance and not life insurance.
And let me clarify, make sure people just, because this is such a hot topic these days,right?
he must be one of those that sell cash value.
We offer cash value, but that's not all that we offer.
We had a young lady who had a term policy.

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This is the power of this, had a term policy.
Then she had like a $600,000 term policy, but she had what is called living benefits.
She was diagnosed with a terminal cancer with life insurance.
If you have the right kind of life insurance, term or cash, she had a term policy.
She had living benefits on it.
The company gave her what is called an accelerated uh benefit, meaning that they paid hera portion of her death benefit because of her terminal illness, right?

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Mm-hmm.
So she went through cancer treatment, beat cancer.
Now she's cancer free.
And the money that was given to her from her death benefit, she turned around and sheinvested that into some condos for her family.
And because it was tax free, because it came out of the life insurance, she didn't have topay it back, but she was able to leverage that money.

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to now she has what did you call passive income from this investment, this vehicle thatshe used from a life insurance policy that she was paying, I think a hundred bucks a
month.
She's a older lady.
She's paying a hundred bucks a month.
And now that paid off where they gave her something like $450,000 accelerated deathbenefit.
And she then turned around and invested this in her in these condos or whatever, or notcondos, but duplexes.

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And now she has passive income.
Why?
Because she prepared herself.
for stuff.
She had the right thing set up so that she can have a living benefit while she's living,not just while she's dead.
And so a lot of times when people hear me say life insurance, they feel as though it'sjust for the death benefit or it's this cash value thing.
That's a part of it, but that's not it in its totality.

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Life insurance is very simply a vehicle that can be used to get you to a destination.
And that's how we communicate.
I was captivated by the story, man.
uh God is good.
Amen.
Hallelujah.
uh I heard God provision all through that.
uh Yeah, that's awesome.

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So and again, it goes back to if you don't hear it, if you don't know, if you don't if youdon't hear those things, you don't know, you don't understand it because you hear all this
other stuff.
But there are again, life insurance is just a vehicle.
not the only vehicle, but it's a vehicle.
It's a great vehicle to use.
But a lot of people don't utilize it.
The statistics say that there is like over one hundred and twenty five million people inthe United States that are uninsured or they are either uninsured or underinsured.

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There's a law that you have to have car insurance.
There's a law that you have.
It's almost a law that you gotta have health insurance pretty much.
ah But life insurance, we know we're gonna die.
We know that.
Everybody's gonna die.
But how many people are preparing for that?
Right.
Wow.
uh Let's talk about this because there may be some people watching.

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most of the audience is Christian entrepreneurs.
Some of those may not have uh built their business to where they're financially stableyet.
Right.
Some of them are below.
They're not making six figures a year yet with their business.
um So this idea of having financial legacy maybe escapes them at the moment.
What can these people do in order to start on that path?

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So you got to start where you are, right?
Understand where you are.
So the first thing I would say is take a real good look at where they are.
Cause some people, sometimes what I feel like, mean, where I feel like I am is not reallywhere I'm at.
So I may feel like I'm not doing really well, but then when I really take a hard look atit to see it, say, know what I'm doing?
I'm doing better than I thought I was.
Or I may feel like I'm doing really well and I'm not doing as good as I thought I was.

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So the first thing I would say is to take a look at where you are currently and then get aclear understanding of where you're trying to go.
The best time to start is today.
And so if I'm a Christian entrepreneur, I'm a business owner, I need to get anunderstanding of where I'm at today and then where am I going?
The third thing I would ask, I would say after that, after I know where I'm at, after Iknow where I'm going, then what vehicle am I using to get there?

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When I say where am I going, it's not just about the revenue or the cashflow within yourbusiness, but it's about your family, it's about the retirement, it's about the legacy.
Where am I going in that direction?
And then how am I going to get there?
So for instance, you in South Carolina, I'm assuming.
I'm in Phoenix, Arizona, right?
So if I'm trying to get to you, I have a few different options on how I can get there.

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I can take an airplane, I can take a bus, I might be able to take a train, I can evendrive a car.
All of them will get me to that destination.
Some of them will get me quicker, more efficient.
I may want to do sightseeing, I might want to go to scenic route, that's why I might wantto take a car.
So I need to be able to identify where I'm at, where I'm going, and then the vehicle thatI'm going to use and the vehicle that I'm going to use needs to meet the needs that I

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have.
That's why I've mentioned the scenic route.
So understand where you are, where you're going, and then the vehicle that you need to doto get there.
something I want to touch on that you said in there, though, is not just the revenue andcash flow.
I think you're exactly right.
You need to think about what your life is, what your what your life goals are, and thenwork backwards.

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What revenue do I need to make in order to reach that life goal?
Right?
What investments do I need?
Like, think about not in terms of just dollars and cents, but think of about it in in yourlife.
Like, what are you passing down in your legacy?
All that sort of thing.
saying.
Yeah, and if I can speak to that or speak on that, should I say, if you ask many peopletoday, what is the number that they need to retire?

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How many people do you think would know that answer?
5 %?
Right.
you ask another question on top of that, say, okay, today, what's the number you need toget to to pass on the legacy that you want to pass on to your children?
What's that number?
What is the number that you want to pass on to your grandchildren?

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What's that number?
Right?
Or what is it that you want to pass on?
So when you talk about legacy, again, it's not about the cashflow revenue per se when itcomes to the incomes of the business, but it's also about
what I'm trying to pass on to the next generation.
And as a Christian entrepreneur, this should be the other question that we ask.
And this probably should be higher at the list.

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What or how many lives do I want to impact for the kingdom through my business?
Well, that sounds like a rare question to ask.
Well, not really, because this is one thing that I know as uh a kingdom entrepreneur isthat the businesses that we operate,
people work at 40 hours, sometimes 60 hours a week.
They spend more time at our businesses.

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So their environment that we create is going to be very impactful in their life.
Why?
Because they're always there.
And so if they're always there, if they're always with me, if they're always hearing mytraining, my teaching, my mentorship, I need to be able to impact, I need to be sowing
seed on a regular basis because the bigger picture should be that I want to be able toimpact them more than just employ them.

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And so that is some question that we ought to be asking as kingdom entrepreneurs as well.
Boom, that's another gold nugget, especially any of the entrepreneurs that have employeesor are thinking about having employees.
It's more than just giving them a paycheck, right?
So awesome, awesome.
Let's shift gears just a little bit to talk a little bit more about faith.

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Not that we haven't been talking about faith all through this because that's just who weare, right?
But let's talk about financial stewardship from a biblical perspective.
we live in an instant gratification culture.
a lot of self-reliance.
um How do you practice godly obedience in today's society?
Well, number one is a practice.

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It's an exercise, right?
Again, I mentioned earlier, my son plays basketball.
He just don't step on the court and expect to be good.
You got to go through some preparation, some training, some exercising, building muscles,so on and so forth to be able to get to that space that you can do that.
And so you got to start with the understanding of, number one, all of us, God belongs toGod anyway.

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And so if I can come to an understanding from a perspective of this really is not mine,
I'm probably gonna take care of his stuff better than I'm gonna take care of mine.
Somebody loans you something, some people take more care of other people's stuff thantheir own.
So my perspective has to change first and foremost.
Once my perspective changes, then I have to start really with kind of small things.

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Like there's a debate whether you should tithe or not.
I believe in tithing.
Some people don't believe in tithing, whatever.
I do believe it's biblical.
That's my stance on the Bible.
However, if I'm tithing to God, if I'm tithing to God's house,
That is a practice that I should also incorporate in my house of saving.
I shouldn't spend everything that comes in.

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So if I'm giving God a 10th, I should probably save a 10th, right?
If I'm giving God a 10th, I should probably save a 10th.
I have to develop that practice.
I also should make sure that I have an account of where this money is going.
I seen a commercial the other day, I think it was on, I forget the name of the company,but it was talking about subscriptions.
it was trying to be fun, it was a joke.

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But I thought about it when it comes to stewardship because the guy said, well, how many,how many subscriptions do you have?
If you're wrong, we're going to let this crocodile in the water with you or something likethat.
He's only got three subscriptions and he said, no, I put all your information in this,this tool and you have 13 subscriptions and let the alligator go.
But what that speaks to is that there's so much waste going out that we don't even realizethat we're wasting more money than we are actually saving.

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We're wasting more money than we're actually being more purposeful about.
And so we have to have the correct disciplines in place to understand where's all thismoney going to?
Because if I don't even know where the money's going to, then how do I know if I'm being agood steward over it?
And I think, so I got some more, but I'm gonna leave it right there.
If I don't know where I'm going, what I'm doing with it, then how do I know if I'm being agood steward over

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Yeah.
Um, I'm going to touch on a couple of things there.
Um, it's, it's a whole business concept too.
It's like, you can't hit a target.
You don't know.
You can't, you can't aim at a target you don't see, right?
Um, there, there's so many things.
If what you talked about as far as where you're, where you want your legacy to end up.
If you don't know that it's going to be hard to hit that target because you're going to bewondering aiming aimlessly at, at something out there in the distance.

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Um, really, really good.
Um,
man, I think I lost my train.
tithing.
Let me touch on that because I think it's I am totally agreement with you.
And there's been moments in my life where I've tied and I have I just speak fromexperience, right?
When I've been obedient and tithe.
It's always come out in my favor, right?

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ah It's not like you're going to win the lottery the next day.
It's tithing is not going to do that for you.
But what tithing does is it gives you that perspective that it's not yours.
It is.
Yes.
And we ties when we had nothing like my family we ties when we had nothing just I guess Ithink maybe subconsciously we're daring we're Challenging God, right God.

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We don't got nothing.
We're gonna give it to you um And it was amazing what happened after that
Yeah, trusting him with it.
I I look at it like he's the one that gives us the ability to go and create wealth.
He provides that for us.
think it's really, really interesting because some of the discord, I'm not going to boreyou with all this, but some of the conversations I get with people is always when you look

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in the Bible, you know, they're talking about, you know, see not Caesar, but food andgrain and cattle.
I said, but that's what they that's what they were doing.
That was their business.
That was their labor.
That is what they were doing.
I don't see you bringing that to the church either.
So whatever your labor produces, God provides you the ability, the gifting to be in yourright state of mind, the health, the opportunities to go and do that.

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We should honor him by saying here to the work.
Don't worry about who, you know, don't worry about everything else.
You do it in faith.
God, I give back to the work because you've blessed me to be able to go out and providefor my family.
So I give back towards the work that's going forth in your name.
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
Let's touch a little bit more on purpose.

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oh What advice do you have for someone that's kind of struggling with their purpose rightnow?
That's so funny.
We had a Bible study on Wednesday.
This was the topic because it's on my John the Baptist.
So the first thing I would encourage you to do is to know that you do have a purpose.
Some individuals who struggle with it, one of the biggest things they struggle with istheir belief that they don't have a purpose.

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They feel inadequate.
Their life's experiences has told them that they're worthless.
People have probably also told them that, you're never going to be nothing.
And so they have this belief that I don't have a purpose.
I'm just existing until I die.
So the first thing I would encourage you is that you do have a purpose.
You were made on purpose.
God created you on purpose.

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are his workmanship, his handiwork, his masterpiece.
And God does not create John.
So the first thing I would encourage you and challenge you is to know that you do have apurpose, that God knew exactly what he needed to have done in the earth.
That's why he created you.
His wisdom is far beyond us.
He said, listen, this is going to be something that's going on in this generation.
I'm going to create John, Sue, Joe, whomever.

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I'm I'm a create them this height, this weight, well, weight can be determined about whatwe eat too.
We'll talk about that later.
This height, this, this in this community with this family at this day and age, because Iput something inside of them that the earth needs to have on purpose.
So you have a purpose.
Don't believe that you don't have a purpose.
Secondly, what I would encourage you to do is to be very prayerful.

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Look in the word.
just, again, we just had this conversation.
We call have something that's called a biblical mandate.
And so biblical mandate simply means that I'm reading the word of God and something in theword speaks to me that I can relate to.
Some of us say that we see how the the the seven that was chosen was serving when theapostles were teaching and that speaks to them because that's what's on their heart.

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Some say, well, you know, I see how when the prophets went out and shared and declaredthings openly, that speaks to them.
Some of them, when they read Solomon, they see how he was a businessman and wise.
That speaks to them.
your biblical mandate or the thing that speaks to you or you feel like you can relate toclosely in the word could be a key indication that that's what God has put in your heart.
And so maybe that's your purpose is tied to something like that.

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Also, if something bothers you, something may bother you that don't bother me.
And it's not because I'm good and you're bad or you're bad and I'm good.
It's just simply maybe that's the thing that God has put you in this earth to address.
I was walking in the church parking lot with one of my friends and we were walkingtogether and he said, man, I'm so tired of people walking past trash and not picking it
up.
I didn't even see the trash.

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It was not even on my radar.
And so I said, well, where's the trash at?
He says back there.
I said, well, why you didn't pick it up?
And so he kind of said, maybe you saw it because you should have picked it up.
So sometimes when things are bothering you,
It could very well be because that's tied to your purpose.
Maybe that's why God purpose to place you here on the earth to have an answer to thatissue.

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And then also look at your skills, the things that you just naturally do that other peopledon't do.
You may be a good speaker, you may be a good listener, you may be a good singer, you maybe a good athlete, you may be a good fill in the blank.
Whatever your skill, now skills and gifting totally different, this is for differentpodcasts, but whatever skills you have.
Maybe those are tied to why God created you on purpose and what you're supposed to do whenit comes to your purpose.

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so believe you have it, understand that God placed you here on purpose.
Make sure you're very prayerful.
Get connected with the Father who created you.
Get into His Word so you can see what your biblical mandate is.
And then look at your experience.
What do you do easily?
What do you do naturally?
What do you enjoy doing?
And then what do you, what annoys you?
What bothers you?
I that's probably been a lot of, I'm sorry.
No, no, no, that's all good.

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The only little thing that I feel like I can add to it is being obedient when God tellsyou something, right?
In that whole thing, because God often wants us to do things to make us uncomfortable inour purpose, right?
ah And that's how we grow.
That's the growers.
We about to say the same thing.
Yeah, that's the growers.
Yep.
So that's awesome.

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um One, just because it's still lingering in my head, I'm going to kind of go back alittle bit because you were talking about how uh people spend money and they often don't
know what they're spending money on.
Right.
My point being is you probably have money to invest.
You just don't know it because you're spending money on things that could be betterallocated somewhere else.

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So.
getting with someone like Antoine and having him look at how you're spending your money,he could probably find ways, even if you're under that $100,000 mark a year, of finding
ways that you can help, that you could start investing and making money rather thanspending it all.
100%.
So let me add on to that.
So let me be very clear.

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Many of our clients are under a hundred thousand.
We kind of specialize in what is called the middle class because the middle class don'thave the information.
And so because the middle class does not have the information, they believe that it's notattainable for them.
So they don't believe that it's even possible for them to do.
So we specialize in the middle-class and we show them things like, no, you can do this.
You don't have to have $250,000.

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You don't have to have $100,000.
You don't even have to have $50,000 sitting back waiting.
You just have to have a willingness to be able to learn information and then execute it.
And not only that, I would like to change the word.
You're probably investing in something that you need to be, that you said it, reallocateyour investments to something else.
You're probably investing into
high blood pressure, sugar diabetes, you're probably investing into some bad habits,you're probably investing into this and that, when you can just take that money that

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you're putting over there and let's reallocate it to something that's going to benefit youand your family for generations to come.
Because what I have discovered is when I sit down with people and what we know is peopleare going to be honest right at first.
They're just not.
When it comes to their money, they're going to overcompensate how much they make.
and they're going to undercompensate how much they waste.
But when we sit down and we do what we call this a personal financial review, we are ableto hit some points.

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And I always see the light bulb come on.
But dang, you know what?
I do waste money over here.
And a lot of people waste money and they don't even know, they can't even remember.
Like I said, with a family and they were going, they wasn't showing me their bankingstatement, but they were going down to bank statement because we were doing the PFR.
And the husband was like,

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I don't even remember what we spent this $500 on.
They had the store and everything.
He couldn't even remember what that $500 went for.
And to that, he said, you know what?
We have not been in good stores.
If I can't even account, I'm looking at the bank account, I'm looking at the statement.
I see it was spent at this store and I can't even tell you what that money was spent on.

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That's $500 that just went out the window.
And so...
Again, if I go back to having an account of it, if I start taking notes or beingintentional about seeing those things that I'm spending, then I will see that I have more
that I can put in a different place.
And know this to be true.
Satan does want to come still, killed and destroyed.

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And if he can steal your resources, if he can steal your finances, he knows he can disruptour faith in believing that God is Jehovah-Jarrah, the God that provides.
Because if I can steal your resources away,
You go, you're not gonna believe that God is gonna provide for you because you haven'texperienced it in your life because I'm stealing this stuff when you're not even paying
attention.
And now he disrupts the faith when it comes to finances and stewardship and things of thatnature.

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And then how do I believe that I'm gonna be the head and not the tail?
How do I believe that I'm gonna be the lender and not the borrower?
How do I believe those things if I don't experience those things and I have a misbeliefthat I'll never be able to attain it because I haven't been a good steward?
over what God has already given me.
The Bible tells us this, that he said, I will provide seed for the sower.
That means my heart has to be, as a sower, I know where I'm planting my seed.

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have an understanding, I'm taking care of those seeds, but that's a heart issue.
And so he provides seeds to those who have the heart to sow.
And some of us will tell the people, say, well, I'll wait that when God gives it to me,then I'll sow.
He's not gonna give it to you because he knows your heart.
Mm-mm.
Mm-hmm.
Man.
So, so good.
Thank you, Antoine.
This has been awesome.

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We may have to have second episode, because we alluded to some stuff that we couldprobably talk more about for sure.
Tell us where, tell the audience where they can find out more about you and check out whatyou have to offer.
Yeah, so I think I provided you with some links and some some Kennedy links.
So I'm sure the Dutt is going to make that available.
You can hop on my link.

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We are all in my consultation.
All my conversations.
They are free.
What would you mean it's free?
No, it's free because we want to get the information out.
We want to teach you want to educate you.
Once you do that, if you make a decision, we can give you in the right direction.
So if you want to connect with me, you can do that.
um Obviously, I'm here on TikTok.
I do post videos from here and there, just kind of give me some insights, someunderstanding on some of these tools that we're talking about.

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If you're here locally in Phoenix, Arizona, we're going to have some events upcoming.
Again, all our workshops and stuff are free so that people can come and get theinformation.
We want to build relationship with you.
We want to show you these things that we're talking about.
We want to show you how it applies to your life.
For those that even are in close to retirement age, I've been able, this last week Iprobably helped about four different families that are surrounding their retirement age.

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putting their finances in a place where it's protected and they get what is calledlifetime income.
And so you can always hop on my calendar if you have questions, if you want to get moreinformation about more stuff that we do, if you want to learn more about those three rules
of money, hop on my calendar.
I can give you a 30 or even a 45 minute session.
We'll go over as much as we can in that timeframe.

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And then you drive the car after that.
Once you understand it, once you see or hear what we say, then you let us know how we cansupport you.
Because that's the thing.
We believe we take care of God's people, God gonna take care of us.
Yeah, I love that.
uh yes, we will put the links if you're watching this uh on YouTube or wherever you'rewatching this video, it'll probably either be in the description or in the comments, links

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to connect with Anthony if you're listening to this on Spotify or...
Yeah, so uh connect with him and also social media.
We'll have some of the social media links below.
We'll have all the links that you could possibly...
Reach out to Anthony with and yes, we have one last question Antoine about uh Before welet any person go because I don't want to leave any wisdom under a rock, right?

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So What parting words of wisdom might you have just off the top of your head for any buddywatching or listening?
So for the entrepreneur, this a believer, for the kingdom minded entrepreneur, I want toencourage you to know that God has placed that on your heart for a reason.
I believe that if we are...
moving our God given calling from an entrepreneur standpoint, create opportunities forpeople to come to live their life from the standpoint of working and learning and their

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careers that we will be able to impact so many more lives than just going to church onSundays and Wednesdays for Bible study.
So if you're a Christian entrepreneur, if you're a kingdom minded entrepreneur, beencouraged, make sure you continue to move in faith.
Even when the bank account says zero and the customers are not knocking at the door, keepmoving in faith because the industry, whatever industry that you're in, my mentor tells me

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all the time.
It's going to test you before it bless you.
The enemy is not just going to release what he is holding that has your name on it.
When the children of Israel left Egypt and went through the wilderness, when they got tothe promised land, there was still someone there occupying their territory that they had
to go in and fight.
God opened up the door, but the Bible said that they had to go straight in, meaning ontheir path, their line, their calling, if I can say it, and fight the enemy that was in

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their territory.
So for all my kingdom-minded
Entrepreneurs know that God has an assignment, he has a territory, and that you will beequipped to be able to conquer every territory that he has.
For all the believers that are on here and non-believers as such, we have to be goodstewards of what God has given us.
And so my heart is to make sure that you understand what are those financial principles sothat you can be the head and not the tail, so that you can be the lender and not the

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borrower.
We don't believe in just the manifestation because you thought it and because you spokeit.
It requires obedience.
It requires...
discipline and it requires the understanding to know that God said, not Antoine, not Doug,God said that you do the head and not the tail, that you're the lender and not the
borrower.
And so he's given us the ability to create wealth and we just have to step into it.

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Man, that was so good, so good.
So thank you everyone and thank you Antoine.
And until next time entrepreneurs, keep moving forward.
Amen.

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