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May 25, 2023 • 70 mins
The Reverend and Reprobate sit down with actor, comedian, singer, and hav-er of a cool wife, Dan Sachoff. Dan talks to the guys about coming up the LA comedy scene and working with Joss Whedon on Marvel's Agents of Shield.

Dan tells the @RevRepPodcast some behind the scenes stories from the set of "Being the Ricardos" where he played opposite Nicole Kidman, and Javider Bardem under the direction of Aaron Sorkin. In Controlled Rowdiness Dan shows off his skills as improv reporter and tells the guys origins of @mrFunpuppets

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Dan Satchoff, Dan Satchoff. Wetalked to him a little bit about
starring in the pilot episode of Agentsof Shield, getting that, working with
director Joss Whedon, figuring out howto add lib whenever you got actual explosions
going on behind you, um,as well as what it's like being a
true working actor in Hollywood where youknow, he doesn't have a said gig

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day in and day out. Theguy's going to auditions trying to make stuff
happen and ended up on a setwith Nicole Kidman, Javier Bardem and Academy
Award winning screenplay writer and director AaronSorkin on what those experiences were like and
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comedian, writer, producer, actor, and x the spokesperson for sports clips.
It's Dan Satchoff. What's going on, Big Dan? Dan? Are
you gentlemen? Thanks for having meon. This is a black Yeah,
thanks for coming on. How bigold boy are you? I stand about
six six foot one, depending onthe day, depending on how much sugar

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I've had and how much lagnia I'vehad. Well, speaking of lasagna,
boy, we have some lasagna inthe studio you Well, it's in the
kitchen. You I have brought anew studio. Yeah, because you.
But we're not here to talk likeyou are, Like I was gonna say
your Garfield esque qualities of bring lasagnawith me everywhere. We're just like we'll
be hanging like literally, we'll bejust doing something and Daniy will just pull

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out like a bag of food thatis and it's not like he has like
jelly beans in his pocket. It'slike a meal that he's stashed. It's
like, what's this from last night? Last night? Yeah, throw it
in a pot I'll get a stegoand pay oftentimes nice. Oftentimes that benefits
you, though I bring extra.Well, that's true, that's true.
I remember the one time you broughtextra in our twenty years of friendship.

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So a lot of times I getthe empty bag that goes. Some of
this was for you, but forCandid. Yeah, well, Dan,
you've got our pretty incredible career.Now. We were introduced to you by
our good friend Dave Pendleton, whostill will not allow us into the Christian
Comedians Association, but you know,we'll. We're working on grace and forgiveness.

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I think is our motto for twentytwenty three. Grace, forgiveness and
doubt. We can learn those thingsin some kind of group. It seems
like this would be the perfect avenuefor us to do it. Man,
you but he introduced us, You'vegot an incredible career. We've seen clips
of you from um Blackish and frommy wife's favorite show for a long time

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was Agents of Shield and oh sure, she has no interest at all in
our podcast, Like she doesn't thinkwe're very cool. Um, she doesn't
think we're we're very smart, Andwhenever we were whenever we were talking to
her about you know what we're doing. She's like, oh, who do
you have on this week? AndI think that's kind of like her obligatory,

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Like I don't have anything else tosay to my husband, I'll ask
you this question. Who do youhave on this week? And I was
like, actually, a guy that'sbeen in Agents of Shield? And she
was like, okay, ask himeverything about Agents of Shield. So that's
what I'd like to start with.Tell me everything about Agents of Shield.
Let's start there. That is agood place to start. That was a
really fun gig and very interesting.So anytime you work in the Marvel universe,

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you have to expect the unexpected.So I did the pilot episode of
Agents of Shield and so I hadauditioned for it. And this is when
this is pre COVID, when wewere still doing a lot of in person
auditions what have you. And soI went down, I read for it,
it prepped the role, and asI left, something that usually doesn't
happen is, you know, youhave your audition material, which they call

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sides. So they said you haveto give us the sides back and I
was like, oh, okay,and not, you know, not again,
because they don't tell you what you'reauditioning for. So I didn't know
it was for Marvel. I hada suspicion because that office does a lot
of Marvel stuff. In fact,they're I don't know if they still are,
but they were the exclusive casting officefor most of the peak years of

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Marvel. Yeah, so I handedmy sides back and I was like,
okay. And then then I foundout I was in the running for this,
and they told me what it wasfor, and they said the Agents
of Shield. When I got it, just a quick, you know byline
of what the show was. AndI was excited about that because I was
a huge Marvel family used to takeour kids to Marvel and have fun with
that. It was good storytelling andfun popcorn movies. And so then I

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found out I got it, andso for two weeks I kept asking Because
I played a I played a lotof news anchors and reporters the hair and
so for this thing, there wasa huge page of dialogue straight to camera.
So you really have to know yourwords in that case because you're not
bouncing off anybody, and so itwas it was a lot of dialogue,
and I kept asking my agent.I said, well, can I get

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the sides for this? Can Iget the pages? Because I want to
know it backwards and forwards because it'sthe pilot episode and there was a lot
of explosions and things happened in it, and I thought, you know,
I got to know this the bestI can because there's going to be a
lot of other distractions run there.They're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
it'll be fine. So cut tothe night before and I still don't

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have any material, and so Icalled my agent and they said, okay,
hold on, we'll have production contactyou. So I get a call
from I think it was a lineproducer, and he said, yeah,
we can't. We can't give outthe information because people would love to know
spoilers and all that kind of goodstuff. So can you come in early.
We'll set you an early call time. You come in early and you

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can just learn it in your trailer. And I was like, oh gosh,
I hate that, but that's myjob. I gotta do it.
So I had a little bit ofa sleepless night and I go in early.
Well, it turns out they callme to set early, so I
basically had fifteen twenty minutes with itin my trailer. And it's this big
chunk. Luckily, not a lothad changed, so I still remembered some

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of it from the audition, soit wasn't completely cold, but there were
some changes in it. And I'mon the back lot of Universal and so
they walk me out there and soI'm trying to stay cool. Well,
then I didn't realize Joss Whedon wasdirecting the episode. Who had, you
know, kind of come up witha lot of the Marvel Universe stuff.
So Joss Whedon comes walking towards meand I'm like, oh, it's Joss

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Whedon, I'm Johns. I'm directingthe episode. I was like, oh
my gosh. So meanwhile, they'vegot things on fire and the back lot
of Universal. Things are blowing upand it's just me with two hundred extras
staring at me and crew and I'mdoing this straight to camera stand up as
a reporter. And so when Ilearned a great lesson from it, because
I got about halfway through the copyand it just left me. And a

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lot of times what I would dois you would start and stop. You
wouldn't stop everything, but I'd takea minute and then start again. And
they when they go to edit thatthey would just you know, they would
make a notation, the script supervisorwould and they would be able to go
ahead and edit that part out.But I just kept going because I was
like, I'm not going to stop. And I got to the end and
Josh looks at me and he said, oh, and that was great.

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I actually like a lot of thestuff you said better than what I had
in there. So let's do itagain. And so I kept doing it
and roughly the same way, butI would throw in some some extra things
and kind of respond to explosions goingon behind me and stuff, and so
it ended up being a really greatexperience through the whole thing. So I
learned a good lesson to just justkeep going because sometimes what you come up
with. Now not all directors arethat way, but sometimes they'll like it

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and you'll catch something that is that'sgood on film. So so that's a
ton of great bloopers that, yeah, end up being way better than what
the writers wrote. Oh for sure. I mean that's I think the show
Friends is kind of famous for thatis all of all of the like extra
stuff that that happens in there.Okay, so you mentioned that there's just
explosions happening on the back lot,Like if I remember right, the pilot

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kind of takes place after the Avengersand Iron Man three, so like they've
already and they're they're prepping for theSchovia Chords, and for I guess all
age of Altron is what's about tohappen, and we kind of get out
of stuff that's in there. Sowhat is that like being on set when
explosions are happening behind you? Becausemy thought is that everybody just does what

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George Lucas did in episodes one,two, and three of Star Wars,
which is give up halfway through anddo everything in post on green screen like
they've right, they've actually got stuffblowing up on set with you. Yeah,
So I mean they you always havea safety meeting with that kind of
stuff. And so there was acouple of charges that I think went off
before I was actually shooting, butthere was fire effects going on in the

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building behind me, and so andthere was a couple of there was a
couple of pops, but they weren'tIt wasn't the giant explosions they had shot
just before I went on there,and then they cut to me. So
they always give you great. Ireally trust like the stunt people on those
those shows are always great. Theylet you know whatever gag is going on,
no matter how tangentially you're attached toit. They let you know everything

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what to expect, and then theyhad the safety. The safety people are
good and I really trusted Joss onthat because he'd done so much of that
kind of stuff. Um, So, you know, it's always it's a
little it's a little nerve racking thatI never felt like I was I never
felt like it was in danger morethan anything. It's just kind of like
you know when you hear concussions andyou know you can feel the heat of

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stuff around you there. It kindof helps with the reality a lot of
times. It really kind of pullsyou, pulls you into it. But
I was never I was never reallyafraid of it. But that's one of
the things I love about a lotof those directors, like Josh Wheedon,
is they do practical effects, andI think as audiences we've gotten so used
to seeing this overuse of CGI andspecial effects that it just there's something on

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the human level that it just itdoesn't resonate quite the same as when you
have a really, And that's whatI think the early first ten years of
Marvel did so well, is meldingthe practical and some of the CGI stuff.
You know, we actually have beendoing a series with our with our
producer Camden Camden, Yeah, wherehe becomes a Star Wars So he'd never

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seen Star Wars at all, andwait a minute, what he hadn't seen
it? And one of his takeawayswas I really liked that they didn't use
CGI in the and the originals.Ye, that he is. That's interesting.
Yeah, because even if you lookat it, like the use of
Yoda in the first three, likethat puppet was in my mind so much

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better. And they've done They've addedand cleaned some parts of it up,
but I love that so much morethan the CGI Yoda that you see later
on. There was something about athousand percent. Yeah, I would rather
have Yoda standing there talking just alittle bit than having him flipping around with
a lightsaber. The spoiler alert,Candon, you didn't hear that we're not

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we're not to that, we're notto that movie yet. Yeah, I
am curious again. I want toget back to the practical effects stuff.
So let's get back to the let'sget back. Let's get back to him.
So when when something blows up onset, right, Yeah, you've
obviously you've been prepped about all ofthat stuff. Now, okay, we're
gonna go take two. What happensin take two? Did they reset the

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explode? Do you get new explosionslike stuff blows up from another area they
had? Do they do that?It depends on what It depends on what
the gag is and how it's laidout. Most of the time, if
you're now, sometimes you will pickstuff up like my stuff. They did
the fire effects at the very topof it, and then because I think

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what they knew is they were goingto cut into me different places, so
they had it up at the topas long as they had that clean,
so they didn't do the explosion again. But what they did again is the
fire effects. But usually if theyknow you're going to use that scene from
the top of the shot, thenanything that appears in the top of the
shot for continuity's sake, they'll goahead and recharge it. So they'll reload,
they'll do whatever they have to do. Wow, And in this case,

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it was just a fire effect thatwas going on behind me. So
they just I think they had torecharge it because I don't know. I
don't know it was propane. Idon't know how they were generating the heat.
But that's crazy. Yeah, it'sreally fine. I love doing like
it's not it's rare that I getto do things with I love stunts though.
I love fight scenes anytime I geta gun, like I was in

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the last season of prison Break,and so I was the the pad man
who was kind of the villain inthat show. I was his aide,
and so I normally just came inand said, sir, somebody's on the
phone, and it was not superexciting. Right towards the end of it,
the two main characters protagonists were breakinginto this secret agency we were in,
and so we all got guns becauseat one point they're in this elevator
and so we all have to lineup and draw down on them in the

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hallway there, and so I gotthis rubber gun that was just so fun
to have. So I love Ilove doing stuff like that because it takes
you back to when you were akid, Right, that's the whole point
I even went into this is pretendingon the playground, having fun, taking
yourself back to that, and Ilove anytime you get to do you know,
stunt generated or just action oriented kindof stuff. I did another show
called Jericho that was on CBS yearsago that was kind of an apocalyptic thing,

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and in that in one episode,I get shot and I had to
have a had to have a rifle, and they had this really cool rifle
rig that when you would pull thetrigger, it made a sound like it
was firing, and then the muzzlewould actually glow a little bit. So
it was for cool for safety becausethen you're not having to worry about blanks
and you're not having I mean,you still have safety meetings and stuff,

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but it's not as intense when there'sa gun on set, especially post the
Rust shooting and everything with Alec Baldwin. Now it's I did work with a
gun a couple of months ago ona movie, and even though it was
not you know, it was itwas not a real gun and it wasn't
loaded, it's still you know,just like, oh, gosh, okay,
because you don't know who's you know, chain of command is really important
with that stuff, and then you'vegot to really trust whoever the wrangler is.

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But I still like, even thoughI knew that gun, there was
nothing. I asked every time tocheck it and you know, to look
at it. You always want todouble check that stuff. Yeah, but
that sounds so cool, like justthe idea of the right. Okay,
so what is what is getting shoton a movie? Like? So in
my case, they they did doa squib rig on me where it where

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it exploded. They didn't end upusing that, so couldn't. The part
they use is then me wheeling intothe er and they just painted love on
my leg and stuff. But it'su for a time I'd ever been squibbed,
and it was really interesting because youknow they're putting it, you're putting
it a charge pretty close to you. Yeah, but you know you had
like I think I had a stockI had a couple of stockings on or
something underneath. I can't remember howthey how they rigged it. It's been

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so long now, but it wasreally you know, it's it adds to
the anticipation of it, you know, because you know that thing is coming.
You're like, I hope this doesn'tgo south, and you know,
I'm pretty sure it wasn't because again, the stuff people are all fantastic,
But when that thing goes off,it really it helps you sell the gag
because a lot of times, youknow you're trying to generally you're trying to
react to things either that aren't thereor in a scene you know you're working

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off an actor. But it reallyraises the stakes when you've got explosions or
you've got a squib going off orsomething. It's fun. It's got to
be easier to react to an actualexplosion. Yeah, for sure, clapping
in the background. That's why Ihave so much respect for people who do
you know, you see all theCGI, like all the stuff that that
they do in Guardians and all thosethings where you're basically reacting to nothing.

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I mean, it's harder than itIt's harder than it looks a lot of
times because I'm not I'm not greatat that. I shot kind of an
action movie a couple months ago thatit should be out I think in the
summer. That's basically with a backdropof it's a biblical it's a faith based
movie, but it's kind of athriller at the beginning, so you really
don't know that it's a biblically basedmovie until you're halfway through it, which
I love because then you're not justpreaching to the choir. There's a chance

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that you may pull other eyeballs inand people will be like, oh,
okay, I kind of see whatthis is. But I've seen a couple
of I saw the trailer for it, and there's a couple scenes with it's
the backdrop of it is Revelation nine, so there's there's some creatures in it
that are sent from the pit andall this kind of stuff. But I

(18:44):
saw a couple of reactions that Ihad to this thing as it's attacking.
I was like, that was cringing, because it really there's an art to
selling that. I'm hoping they reshootsome of that or recut it because I
just looked at it at the screeningI was like, Oh, I just
I thought I was so bad.Well, that's why I've always thought Chris
Hemsworth was a better actor than MarkRuffalo, because because the way he was

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able to act with a hulk that'snot there, and also as far as
just a human goes just a littlepuny and you know, maybe maybe wimpy.
True Mark Ruffalo opinions for everybody rightthere true. These opinions are not
endorsed by Yeah, that's that's it. Okay, so you you got to

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do the Agents of Shielding. Youlove doing the action movie stuff. But
you've got a really cool um ifif we were to look at your reel,
you got a really cool sort ofbackground in comedy that we we love.
And that's one of the reasons,you know that we started doing this
show is because we wanted to talkto to comedians and people that loved making
other folks laugh. M Getting towatch your your time on the show Blackish,

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the scene that we saw out ofyour reel was such a cool thing.
I'm one of the comedians that I'veloved the most growing up is Anthony
Anderson. What was it like beingon set with with him? What's the
vibe like on that show? Becausethat show reminds me almost of the shows
that we grew up within the nineties, right that has the you know,
the same kind of you know,living single vibe, or or shows like

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that where where races is something thatis definitely present and it's taken from a
certain angle, but it's also interactedwith more than it is ignored or or
blown out of proportion. I thinkin some ways it Race is not the
main character, but it is kindof this other person in the room that's
always there as far as like someoneor something that a gag is used off

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of. So what was it likeworking on the show? What's it like
working with with somebody like that?Uh, Anthony and that whole cast were
fantastic. That's one of my oneof my favorite experiences on there for multiple
reasons. Like you said, it'suh they deal with all of those issues
in a really good way. Butalso like for me, I hate to
be preached at in any situation.I want for me, the king is

(21:07):
story. Story is the king ofeverything. I want somebody to tell me
a good story. If there's amessage in there, that's fine. If
you have everybody has a point ofview, everybody has a worldview, that's
great. But the first and foremostthing you have to be concerned with is
tell me a good story. Tellwhoever a good story. And what I
love about that show is it's genuinelyfunny. As I watched it back,

(21:29):
like I was not. I knewof the show, but I hadn't watched
the show honestly, just because Ihadn't watched broadcast TV in so long at
that point, I was mainly watchingstreaming and that at that point, you
know, the mussy TV days werekind of over. So my wife and
I sat down to watch the ABClineup when that show came on, and
we actually saw the reboot of Rosanne. With that, we saw that show,

(21:51):
we saw a couple of other thingsthat were really it was interesting to
see it again because when I firstmoved out here, that was the main
thing I wanted to do, ismulti camera sitcom. That's what was happening.
That's what I was kind of trainedin what I thought I wanted to
do while I got here, Andabout three or four years later, that
whole genre kind of dried up,other than the Disney Channel in Nickelodeon,
who kind of kept multicam sitcoms alive. But anyway, I love the way

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they tell the story and it's reallyit's funny and Anthony the cast is great,
and I think the subject matter isreally important. I had actually really
great conversations with people that were kindof deeper conversations that were really great,
and everybody was really willing to listento each other on that show. And
I also worked with one of myfavorite directors ever on that show. I

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don't know if you guys ever watchedDesperate Housewives, but Eva Longoria, who
was in that show, she directedour episode of Blackish, and she is
really barn on, one of thebest directors I've ever worked with. So
they they were had a shortened weekfor some reason. I can't remember what
it was on Blackish, so weonly had Tuesday through Friday instead of Monday
through Friday. So that's a lotof time to block and shoot with a

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big cast of characters that that that'snot much time. And she ran two
cameras the whole time. And she'sone of these people who and she was
eight months months months pregnant, soshe just had such a command of a
knowing how to work with actors.And there was some wild cards on that
shoot. I'm not gonna name anybody, but there are some people who are

(23:22):
like you know, and look,I can be that way too as an
actor sometimes because you're putting your emotionsout there, it can be a little,
you know, a little high maintenancewith us sometimes that's just how we're
how we're put together. She knowshow to work with actors. She knows
how to direct them without giving youa line reading or something. She's great.
Plus she knows how to get theday done and get it all done.

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She's like, Okay, we havefour days. We're gonna do two
cameras, we're gonna do We're gonnado whatever we have to do. And
she was just so impressive and sonice and approachable, and it was just
it made it just a really reallycool experience. Plus it shot on the
Disney lot, which anytime I getto go over there is great because on
my lunches, I could walk aroundand look at all the stages and they've

(24:03):
got little plaques outside like hey,Mary poppinshot here, whatever else, So
it's always kind of kind of cool. That's one of my big things that
I love is to anytime I'm auditioningor working on a lot, I'd love
to just walk around and take pictures. And I will often post pictures of
history because Hollywood is not good withpreserving its history. If you go back
east, like I went to schoolin Boston, you can see where you

(24:25):
know Ben Franklin's gravestone is or something. They preserve things well. The history
we have out here is basically Hollywoodrelated. And when I first moved out,
I was looking for I wanted tofind the courthouse for the Andy Griffith
Show, and come to find out, I found where it was. But
the whole area has just been bulldozed. That whole lot, which was the
Desilu lot, they just bulldozed itand it's just a piece of asphalt now.

(24:48):
So whoa. So the entire Desilu lot is gone. It's gone.
Yeah. So that's where they didHogan's Heroes Andy Griffith Show. Mission
Impossible. So they had the Hogan'sHeroes Prisoner War camp. The pow camp
was there, everything, and theyhad a huge berm built around it,
kind of like the way Disneyland does. You can't see the outside world as
much. It was just right.It was really cool, well laid out.
Yeah, that's all. It's allgone. Wow. So you I

(25:11):
think it's interesting that you mentioned youmentioned that, and you likely did it
because you are a professional and entertainmentand we're ready for this segue. But
you actually you get to work onsort of the biopic for Lucy and Desi.
I did, and that is that'sa very heavy cast with Nicole Kidman

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and Javier Bardem. The story thatthey tell there there is gut wrenching.
So as as a person who iskind of this like you know, Hollywood
historian that you love these kind ofthings, what was it like getting to
work on that movie in particular?I think being the Ricardos is the name
of it, if I'm not mistaken, And it's Amazon Prime, which is
talking about some of the original Hollywoodroyalty and really, more than anything,

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the first woman that was universally thoughtof as like a comedic genius in a
ball What was that like? Uh? It was It was awesome. I
mean I grew up watching reruns ofLucy as a kid. And you know,
my wife is she's a sketch comedianand has been in a group called
the Groundlings out here that does sketching, prov and everything. And she was

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a member of that company for likefifteen years, and so she also was
heavily influenced by Lucy and physical comedyand and I just always had great respect
for what Lucy and Desi built together. That that movie is so amazing because
Aaron Sorkin, who wrote and directedit, Aaron just really got down to
the nitty gritty of what what wasLucy looking for? And she was ultimately

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looking for she wanted to have afamily, but the only time she was
able to have a family of anymeaningful, of any meaning was when she
was on the set of that show. And that's what comes through and that
that story because Desi, you know, just wasn't able to be faithful.
He wasn't able to give her whatshe needed that way. But it was,
it was It was just awesome towork on that and to get to

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be a part of some of thatstorytelling and to you know, to talk
to some of the people who wereinvolved, who were there, who knew
how all of that went down.It was just it was really awesome.
And it was awesome getting to workwith somebody like Aaron Sorkin, because most
of the time you're working with thedirector who didn't write the words of whatever
you're doing, which is fine,that's that's perfectly fine, but it's it's

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amazing to work with somebody who,like every day we would get there and
there'd be new words because Aaron wouldsit down as we would start blocking.
And I was fortunate because a lotof times I do one offs, like
I'll do a guest ar, aco star, and I'm on it a
couple of days or a day.Well, I was on that. I
was on that movie for a longeramount of time, for a couple of
weeks, and it was it wasjust great to see the process a little
bit more. And so we wouldsit down and like the first time I

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worked with Nicole, we would allsit down and we kind of just talked
through the words, and Aaron wassitting back listening. He was just like,
okay, okay, I wrote that. You know, I wrote this
page three months ago, and sincethen I thought of this because we shot
something else, so we're going tochange it. And so we would get
our scripts out and we'd start writing, you know, the new bits and
kind of learning them on the flyand then getting it on its feet.

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And it was the closest thing todoing a play that I've done in a
while, just because it really fromthe way it started, like you would
start the scene. I remember whenwe first started blocking the scene, we're
all standing talking. The first timewe meet Lucy from the network, we're
just kind of standing talking and Arrowwas like, no, it's not going
to work. And so by thetime we were done. Nicole had a
hat that she's pinning on, lookingin the mirror, looking at us.

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They're shooting it through the mirror.There was so much action going on that
it felt really organic and real,and that's because he knew the script inside
and out. He wrote it,and then as a director, he's a
really he's a really great director,and he would do little things like the
guy we played the network execs.He would say, Okay, this time,
when you say these lines, Iwant you to save these lines together

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at the same time, I wantyou to say these words at the same
time. We're like okay, AndI wasn't quite sure what he was going
for. I was just like,okay, yeah, yeah, let's do
it. And when I saw itback it made the cut of the film.
It was a great take because itlooked like it was genuinely an accident
that we've been talking going to saysomething at the same time. Then we
kind of looked at each other andwe didn't plan that, but just the
way he somehow knew that that wouldmake it look like a more real moment.

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Anyway, it was just yeah,I loved it. It was a
great experience, and Nicole was fantastic, and Javier was was amazing. The
whole the whole cast is was phenomenaland really kind people and and just really
willing to work things out. Likea lot of times when you work with
a star, you know, youhave to know the protocols and you don't.

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You know, it's never like don'tmake eye contact or anything like that,
but you respect respect somebody's space andyou don't want to ask him for
autographs, You don't want to overlytalk to them. You want to just
respect them because they got a lot, especially her, she was in every
shot. She carried that film onher back. But she would come to
me and be like, hey,do you want to run lines? I'd
be like, yeah, hey,do you remember when you were Mulan Rouge?

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Yeah? Yeah, yeah, wellthat was that was gonna be.
My next question is like, soyou're getting to work with all these people,
like how hard is it to notI guess kind of like freeze them
in time as their like their iconicroles, like is she big little liars?

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Is she? You know? MulanRouge? And the same thing with
like Javier Bartem every time he wouldwalk in, I would be like,
oh, he's gonna kill me,Like he's like yeah, boom done.
Yeah, yeah, she made meflip a coin. The first time I
met him, I was like,oh, dude, or he's gonna take
out half of his face like inthe Bond film. Yeah, yeah,

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like the Bond movie. Yeah,he's such a great villain actor, oh
for sure. And that's kind ofwhat Desi is in this film, is
like as lovable and caring and allof those things as you want him to
be in as charming as he isas he was in the show. Yeah.
Yeah, but he is sort ofthe villain of the Desilu story unfortunately,
which is which is really but that'swhat's the breaking it so good.

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Yeah. Yeah. What's amazing aboutJavier's performance in that though, is even
though you're right, he has towalk that tight rope, tight rope because
Desi did some bad things, butas the actor, you can't think of
yourself as a villain. You can'tthink of yourself as the bad guy,
because there was redeeming qualities as well. Yeah, but it's just I just
there was a couple of moments forhim that I mean, the whole movie,
he was fantastic, but there wasa couple of moments where he channeled

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Desi in the cope of Cabana whenhe's he's doing bab a Loo and even
though he doesn't necessarily look like Desifor a moment just in that performance,
I found myself when I was watchingthe screening, I was like, oh
my gosh, that's like he channeledDesi per second there. But he's wild,
He's he's awesome. I mean,he's just one of the most Like

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I heard stories, I didn't witnessthis, but just how wouldn't He'd be
in the dressing room like all ofa sudden, you know, he'd be
playing music and they'd be doing aconga line or something, and with this,
you know, with the makeup peoplelike he was just he made it
really fun. But that yeah,I mean it's intimidating sometimes because when I
when I got cast in that,it was COVID and it was really weird
too, and then they had topush it for a while, and so
I was like, I don't evenknow if this thing is going to happen.

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But once I got on set andI'm staring at Nicole and I'm just
like, oh my gosh, becauseyou know, there's always something to learn,
and somebody who's got that much timein front of a camera, you
know, you have to respect nomatter who it is. And I've worked
with people who have bad reputations orwho had difficult reputations, but you know,
I have to respect people who've doneit that much because nine times out

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of ten they had those those badreputations because one person had a bad experience
with them, and that that's probablynot indicative of who they are all the
time. It's because you know,everybody can have a bad day, especially
when everybody wants something from you andyou're on the set, and like in
her case, like she was justphenomenal the whole way. Now, I
worked with way of Shatner one timeon a commercial, and I was a

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huge Star Trek fan growing up,and so I'm like, oh my god,
I'm gonna work with Shatner. AndI got there and the ad immediately
tells me, Okay, don't makeany eye contact and talk to mister shatter
this and that he's very difficult allthis stuff, and I was like,
okay, and but I didn't findhim to be that way at all.
Ra's a guy who at that timewas eighty eight years old, who's been

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doing this the bulk of his adultlife. Who knows what he wants,
and he also knows how to befunny as William Shatner. He knows what
people will buy, what they whatthey won't buy as William Shatner. Yeah,
and he knew how to make thebest use of Bill Shatner, and
he told people so, but notin a mean way. But so in
that case, I found him tobe very gracious, and he would turn

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to me at the end of atake and be like, hey, do
you need another one? I waslike, oh, no, you're captain.
I'm fine. If you're fine,you know, right, I'm I'm
curious. So like when when we'retalking particularly about like the caliber of talent
that you're you're looking at Javier Bardem, Nicole Kidman, Aaron Sorkin, all
Academy Award winners. Yeah, right, So versus walking into let's say,

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the William Shatner commercial. You've gotone guy who's iconic, you know,
and then everybody, like you're talkingabout this ad, everybody is kind of
like adjusting what they do to youknow, how Bill wants to to react.
Well, good job, Yeah,thank you, thank you very That
felt so unnatural, right right.Um, it's like all the people that

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call Robert de Niro Bob, andI'm like job, yeah right, so
yeah, so you've got when youyou've got three people that are all Academy
Award winners, is it? AndI think in particular the way you've already
talked about this film, it seemslike everybody was very synergistic, like they're
all trying to work together for thebest thing. Um, is it weird

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like trying to figure out how toin some instances how to balance egos there
or is it your experience that moreoften than not when you have a bunch
of people who have credentials, likewho for lack of a better term,
have the hardware, that what endsup happening is that those tend to be
like very synergistic, like everybody's ableto get involved. Or is it more
like nope, these are two youknow, Oscar winners. They're the ones

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that are going to kind of takeit and where I'll just kind of play
off them no matter what our rolesare. Yeah, you know, for
me, I always kind of justdefer to you can It becomes pretty clear
the minute you get on any set, no matter what you're doing, kind
of what the hierarchy is, whatthe vibe is, and I always just
defer to I'm a guest in somebodyelse's house. I mean, unless I'm
a I'd been a series regular ina couple of things, not anything major,

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but especially in situations like this whereI'm going with heavy hitters, my
job is to know my stuff cold, to do the best job I can
so, to know it well enoughthat I can be in the moment with
somebody, hold my own with them, and because I've been cast in this
part, so they must think Ican do it. I think I've gotten
the point in my career where I'mover feeling really intimidated because I feel like

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and I had. You know,was a guy who actually I worked with
on Jericho who was very much thatway because I could. He came up
to me one day and was like, Hey, you see you seem tentative.
You've earned the right to be here, just jump in. And I
needed to hear that because I wasa younger actor and I was a little
intimidated, and so it really helpedme. And now in these situations,

(36:19):
what I've tried to do is I'llbe nice and if somebody extends their hand,
I'll shake their hand, but Idon't always put my hand out.
You kind of read the room andwhat's what's going on. And then nine
times out of ten I found ifyou just if you're there to work and
work hard and you respect them andyou don't mess around enough if they want
to if they want to joke aroundor do something later, yeah that's that's
awesome, and I'm happy to dothat. But you you kind of have

(36:39):
to take your cues from from theads, from the people themselves. You
get a vibe for it, andyeah, but it's it's I've never had
a really bad experience, even withpeople who are rumored to be difficult.
Sometimes those are the best experiences I'vehad because those people too will give you
the most in a scene like Idid a show years ago with UM It

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was called Shark with James Woods,and James Woods had a kind of a
reputation for being profer to work withfor rightly or wrongly, and I didn't
find it to be that way atall. He's a guy who's like,
hey, let's hurt. He wantedto rehearse it and rehearse it and do
this and try. And he'd workedthe sound department, so a lot of

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times in those days. The technologyhas gotten better now, but you couldn't
overlap dialogue with people because if youdid, when they go to cut it,
they will hear your dialogue on somebodyelse's close up or something. So
you had to wait and kind ofBut he had he had done the sound
in a certain way that you couldjust jump in. It was more like
doing a play, and I lovedit, and he brought so much excitement
and energy to it. Again,it was a great experience. So I

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didn't find him to be difficult atall. So you just never know.
Well, I do want to followup. Let's do it very interest Let's
get back to Danley's follow up.Yeah, this is what I want to
know now. I'm very interested.This is way earlier, but I would
be remiss of it and ask aboutthe Groundlings. You said your wife.
I was in it for fifteen years, so I am very fascinated with the
Groundlings. This is a group,a troop, an improv trop, a

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troop perhaps sketches that has launched somany of our favorite comedians. Oh yeah,
into SNL and mad TV and moviesand stand up and all kinds of
stuff. So what was that like. Were you with her at the time
when she was in the Groundlings.Yeah, yeah, we were. We
both went through together, so weI had gone through the school and I

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was really young at the time.So they have a like second City to
have a training program and you gothrough at the Groundlings. I don't I
think it's I think it's basically thesame now. But it was four levels,
so you have a basic, anintermediate or writing lab, and advanced
and then from there you get intoSunday Company, which is the theater company,
the main company, and you haveto be voted into something Sunday Company.
Then you have to be voted intomain Company. So Jill and I

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both went through it. Um,I went through once and I left because
I didn't think I wanted to dothat anymore. And they said, Okay,
if you come back, you've gotto start at the beginning again.
I was like, no problem,that's fine, I'll never want to come
back. Well, my wife andI got married and she was in New
York for a while. When shecame back, she wanted to do the
Groundlings. I was like, youknow, I want to do it too.
So we went through the program,you know, in separate classes,
but together at the same time,and we both got all the way through

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and I got cut at Advanced,which was fine because at that time we
had just had our first kid andI had a lot on my plate,
and I don't think it would havebeen feasible for both of us to be
in Sunday Company at the same timebecause the material you have to generate.
And I watched my wife go throughthat and it was a lot and then
she got into main Company from there, and so it was a blessing actually.

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But we both learned so much therebecause we learned to write sketch comedy.
We learned to The biggest thing Ilearned from the Groundlings, and I
think she would echo this is committingto a character like if you watch Will
Ferrell, if you watch any ofthe great sketch performers who come out of
the Groundlings, they commit to whateverthey're doing. That's the thing I love
about Will, even if it's broad, oh man, you can have broad

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must committed to that and you justdon't break and it's all in the eyes.
You can sell anything like Harry Careyis a giant character, but Will
is so in it at every momentthat it doesn't matter what he does.
You just you buy it. Soit was it was incredible to watch that.
I used to go watch all theshows because every show she was in,
I'd go, I'd go watch.And I've still got a lot of

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friends in that, and I endedup getting a lot of work through the
Groundlings. I started doing stand upafterwards because of the Groundlings, and I
was so spoiled by that experience.I couldn't find another sketch group that I
wanted to try to go be in, so I took my characters and I
started doing it in clubs and doingstand up that way. But it's the
Groundlings is an amazing place. AndI always tell young actors that training is

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the best for you because when you'relearning to improvise, the sketch stuff is
great too, but learning to improvise, the most important thing is listening.
So a lot of times his actorswere very bad with I talk, I
talk, I talked, Okay,now you're talking, and I'm just thinking
about what my next line is insteadof really listening and being in the moment.
There. But when you're improvising withsomebody, you don't know what's coming

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nexttion you have to listen to whatthey're saying. And that was the best
training for me, and I thinkgreat training for for my wife, who
you know. So it was itwas a great place. Yeah, that's
awesome. I am curious with uh, with being hitched to another comedian,
especially especially in the groundlings were theretimes? And I'm sure that she's very
cool. I just know, Ijust know wives. He's sure your wife

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is cool. I'm sure she's verycool. Yeah, sure, sure,
Yeah, we're obviously you probably marriedsomebody cool. Oh yeah, no,
No, that was my first requirement, is it. She she had to
be busting? Are you always like? Are you busting? She was totally
busting. I mean that's I don'tthat's great. Yeah, I'm being very

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ginger with this question because just askedthe question. So, so like I
will make up jokes, my wifewill say, you know, I don't
like that because because as a comedian, as a person, she's very funny,
but as my wife, her senseof humor is less. Yes,
So I'm curious if you've experienced that. So my wife has got a great

(42:13):
sense of humor, and she isone of my biggest fans. But here
we go. You said she cantell me when something in her opinion,
and now, sometimes it's right,sometimes it's not right. It depends on
as guys. I think too.We would probably admit there are certain things
that make us laugh that don't makeladies laugh as much, and sometimes viceab

(42:36):
versa. There are a lot ofthings that cross over. But she's great
for me because yes like a specialtywhen I like, I hosted a show
for years on Ready for a USAnetwork called Ready for the Weekend Movie.
It was like an interstitial show masqueradingas a TV show, but it was
basically a giant commercial. But anyway, I would write comedy and sketch bits

(42:57):
for that and I would run itby her and she could be real honest
and say, ah, you know, what have you thought about this or
that on there? And it wasit was really helpful. But that's the
great thing for us, And Iknow I do know people who were married
and it became very competitive and canbe competitive. I think for us,
one of the blessings was I didn'tget into the groundlings, which was awesome

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because I think there tends to be. Depending on who the spouse is,
there can be a competition if you'reboth in together. I think it was
a real blessing for us that thatthat didn't happen on a whole host of
levels. But yeah, she's she'svery supportive, and she and I actually
did a sketch show together before beforewe got into the Groundlings, and you

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know, we would have to behonest with each other because you don't want
to get on stage and just becauseyou know that's honesty is really important in
any situation, Like I don't wantanybody to ever yues me and be like,
well, yeah, that's that's awesome, and then you get up there
and it's like, well, youtank in front of an audience. You
don't want that. I'd rather havesomebody tell me the hard truth or tell
me and then sometimes I can belike, Okay, I hear you,

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but I disagree, and then Igotta take my chances. I had a
comedian friend tell me that if ifI ever ask you if something's funny,
if you say yes and you don'tthink it is, that's that's the same
as like stabbing me in the back, Like I want you to tell me,
yeah, so I especially if you'rea comedian, if you're just an
acquaintance, but yeah, if you'refriends with somebody, you got you got

(44:22):
a level of It was Victor.It was Victor. Yeah, he's also
not a member of the CCA.No, and he won't be he's Jewish.
He can't be. He can't beJewish. He can't be. No,
he's not. No. I actuallywouldn't say Victor is Jewish other than
he takes Friday nights off. Thankthat. So I can't do anything where

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like this is this is for surejobs. Yeah, that's it. I
gotta turn off and I don't rollon javas. No, he turns off
the refrigerator and doesn't answer our phonecalls on Friday night. And that's all
I know about about his faith isthose two things. Yeah, Okay,
next question, wait before you getoh here we go. Okay, I
do have a new time. Okay, so um, before we before we

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hop into some of the comedy stuff, because I want to know a lot
about your comedy career, especially sinceyou translated a lot of the things from
the groundlings. So is there adifference And I'm looking at your IMDb,
look at thank you Pumpkin. Sowe've we've looked at at your IMDb page
now for a couple of weeks,and there seems to be like very few

(45:27):
gaps. And so like you youare somebody that from the outside looking in
that we would consider like a workingactor. You did not have a show
that you were on for eight seasonsor nine seasons. That kind of you
don't have. You've just been gettingresiduals or royalty check since then. Like
you've stayed busy since the mid ninetiesand have not stopped. It seems like
you're always doing something. Do youthink that there is in younger actors right

(45:54):
in particular, and we'll talk aboutlike our generation, the millennials and the
gen zs, that there is thisidea that you know what, we are
gonna We're gonna find a streaming showthat we're gonna be on, and we're
all gonna just live off of ourstranger things residuals for the rest of our
lives. Or because I think thatthat you know, some of them,
we're older millennials, older millennials andup have this like I've got a hustle

(46:17):
mentality. Are you finding that that'ssomething that you're still seeing in the younger
actors and the younger people that arecoming up in Hollywood, because you obviously
had it. But I don't knowthat everybody does. And this seems to
be a complaint that we're getting froma lot of our friends who are directors
and ads and who write screenplays andthings like that, is that maybe the
younger group doesn't just they just don'thave that hustle in them. It could

(46:39):
be, you know, I don'tknow if it's as much generational even as
it is just it's kind of thenature of a lot of actors. Actors
tend to be lazy. I wouldsay, it's not even millennial or gen
z. I have known a lotof people that I started with in the
business who either our idea of successwas one that was so rigid that they

(47:02):
were never going to be able tostick it out in the business. I
mean, I had an idea ofsuccess when I came out. I wanted
to be number one on the callsheet and a sitcom that was my big
and that was success for me.Well, it became apparent to me after
a while that I probably I wasn'tgoing to be a star, and if
I was it was certainly something thatwas out of my control, and then

(47:23):
I couldn't manage the outcome on soI had to decide do I enjoy this
enough to keep pursuing it or doI go do something else? And if
I do stay in this, Ihave to love it enough to know that
I'm enjoying it. And if Inever achieve whatever level of success I thought
I wanted, I'm okay with that. And so I enjoy the work,

(47:46):
and so I became I just workedreally hard all the time, not trying
to manage the outcome, and eventuallyfound a fan base of casting directors and
or directors or people who would say, oh, we want to work with
Dan because he's easy to work with, or he does a good job where
he does this or that. Likea part of it's getting known for something

(48:07):
too. So I was saying,yeah, there's probably there's probably some generational
aspect to that, and I seethat, but a lot of times too,
it's just actors too. Boy.You know, people get an elevated
view of what I should do orwhat I should be doing, or what's
important. Like you know, forme, I had casting directors tell me
early on, hey, look,we'd want to find the best person.

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So whether you're doing five lines orless, or a guest star or a
costar or a huge series regular,will cast you as everything. And I've
had people, you know, provethat to be true. They'll cast me
in a very small part and thenthey'll cast me in a big part.
And I will do both things becauseI want to work. I want to
do the work. Work. Hegets work, and the more time in

(48:51):
front of the camera the better.As a young actor, I tell young
actors do student films do? Imean? Now, the great thing about
COVID, if there is, therewere blessings through COVID, And one of
the great things is that self tapesreally became a thing. I used to
blow self tapes off. I waslike, yeah, whatever, it's a
self tape, and I would justso half heartedly pursue it. Well after

(49:13):
Covid, I had started making aliving doing online content different ways through different
platforms, and so I basically hadto build a studio in the house to
do that, and I when selftapes come up, I was ready to
go on that. And because Iwas in front of the camera all the
time, self taping myself, andI could actually look at it back.
Like when I'm auditioning in a room, I don't see myself. I don't

(49:35):
see how I'm framed. I don'tsee that's too big, that's too small.
But you watch yourself five hundred times, you know, over the course
of a few months doing auditions,you're like, oh, wow, I
need to do this different. Andeven something simple, like my wife watched
a playback is something I was doingone day and she's like, you need
to wear some bass makeup. Youlook really washed on. I was like,
I don't either. I'm not wearingno makeup. Oh I look horrible,

(50:00):
look like like I've been getting chemo. And so I totally started wearing
bass. But anyway, a longway around to say, I don't.
I don't know that it's as muchgenerational. I hate to I hate to
pigeonhole people that way as much.I think it's just with actors. I
think we can we have a tendencyto be very narcissistic because it's a very
self involved kind of business and alsovery lazy. Millions of people want to

(50:22):
hear me talk. I think thereis something to it, but I do
this almost feels like the Matthew Berrytoast of London. Character is that like
everyone you've seen that everyone should sogreat. I'm an actor, therefore you
should hire me. All right,so we're ready. We're ready for your

(50:42):
subject change. Okay, san,subject change? What I want to know
whenever you have a question. Ifyou don't, I'm talking about I have
a next question where whenever it's ready, first question is ask away have you
seen last last one laughing? SpecificallyCanada? It's a reality show featuring comedians.
It started in Germany and there's onein Italy and Australia and then they

(51:04):
did one in Canada. The lineup, so the gist of it is,
there's there's six hours they lock theylock ten comedians in a room for six
hours and they yeah, and theychop us up into several episodes and the
point is that you you want tobe the last one to laugh. So
everyone's trying to make these other comedians, you know, they're trying to make
all their friends laugh, but knockoff. So in the lineup in Canada was

(51:28):
Colin Mockery, Tom Green, DaveFoley, May, Martin, Caroline Ray.
You know pretty ya? Wow?How long ago was this? Is?
This current. This is a yearor two ago. It's pretty recent,
really, Yeah, and I'm hopingthat there's there's one that comes out
in USA. So they didn't getMick Foley, they didn't ask Mankind to

(51:52):
be a part of it. Ibet you he would have laughed. He
probably would Green would have got himimmediately. Yeah, sure, different,
different. I love it. Icannot wait, and I hope they bring
one out in the US. Andso my question was gonna be, who
would you you know, if youhad to pick three people who would comedians?
Would you think would would just killat being locked in a room for
six hours straight? Boy, I'lltell you. I would have to say,

(52:15):
you can't pick Dave Pendleton, Yeah, Pendleton for sure. Bring it
some crazy puppets, Yeah absolutely,I would say, um well, I
would say Will Farrell is one ofmy you know from the stand up World,
Will Farrell or that idiot according toLucas's mom, Yeah, that's my

(52:36):
mom. I have like I've triednot to say it every time he's brought
up Will Ferrell because I feel likeI always say it every episode where he
got up My love Will Ferrell.If my mom's missus, Will Ferrell's show
up on something. She's like,oh, I can't take that idiot,
and then she just leaves or wehave to change the channel. There is
no like, I don't think sheeven knows his name. She just knows

(52:59):
him as that idiot. And theonly movie that she can stand that he
was in is Stranger than Fiction.Really, Oh no, she doesn't like
Elf unbelievable. Yeah, Stranger thanFiction? Is it? And she's like,
we asked her because you think it'sbecause he said the whole movie,
right, somebody else is ruining hislife the entire time, And she's like
like, I like this part,this is good. This is the best

(53:20):
thing he's ever been in. Isthat movie where someone else ruins his life
the whole time? Yeah? Butother than that, she only refers to
like she will not call him byhis name. It's like that idiot And
we're like who, and she's like, I don't know. You guys know
the one that y'all think is funny. She's like, oh, fuzzy Chevy
Chase like Will Ferrell, fuzzy willWill Farrell. She's like, yeah,

(53:42):
that idiot, oh man, Bill, But I agree, Will Farrell would
absolutely be a major threat for sure, Oh Will would, I think,
you know, I think Conan O'Brienwould be somebody. I think Conan would
kill in something like that, becauseagain, it's not just one liners,
just situationally, And that's one ofmy favorite things about Will. Like I

(54:05):
love Will's movies, but honestly,some of my favorite things Will has ever
done are on the Conan Show,like when he used to go on as
Robert Huh, I just and evenif you don't know who Robert backed it
again, he commits to that.Yeah, and where he'd go on as
a lepre con or whatever he woulddo like those days. The golden era
of Conan to me was just wasgenius. So those guys from the stand

(54:28):
up world, I'd see Bill Bird, Dave Chappelle. I mean, you
know, I think there's there's somany Andrew Schultz. I think there's so
many talented people. Uh yeah,Oh my gosh, I think there's an
embarrassment of riches of people who Ithink who could do that? I can't
wait. I think I think BillHayder would. He would crack. He

(54:49):
would crack though, oh for sure, he would crack, but he like
he fould definitely be the first oneto go. There's just no two ways
about it. He would be thefirst one to go, but he he
would push everyone else to such anabsurd place. Yeah, but I think
he'd probably take a couple of peopleout with it. That's the thing that
happens in each season that I've seenis once it's getting getting towards the end,

(55:12):
they're tired and they're getting desperate.They've tried all of their normal Yeah,
he's already been steffon Yeah. Yeah, one platforms. It's on Amazon
Prime, Amazon Prime. Yeah.I've watched the Australian one, which was
very weird but funny, no doubt. And the Canadian one is just unbelievably

(55:32):
funny. It's all my favorite.And Colin Mockery, Tom Green day Fully,
there's a bunch more that are great, but those three, Oh,
that's that's what you know. WhoI'd love to see on even though he's
not American. I'd love to seeRussell Brand on it because I think,
Gosh, Russell Brand to do great. Yeah, although he is an American
now is that Yeah, he's gotcitizenship. I don't know if that counts.

(55:54):
I think I think if you putlike Russell brand, Richard ay Od.
Jimmy Carr would have to be inthere because he's I think if you're
doing anything game show related in theUK, Jimmy Carr has to be a
part of it. I think that'spart of his contract. So he's got
to be a part of it,and he's got to have new veneers before

(56:14):
the show starts. Like Jimmy Carr, I'm not a huge fan of him
either, but he is on everyBritish game show and his teeth are impossibly
whited. Yeah, oh yeah levelso Um. Speaking of stand up comedians
and comedy, you had or youdo you still do stand up because we
know you did stand up for along time. Yeah, you know it

(56:36):
wants wants. My kids got tobe older, it got harder to fight
for stage time, and honestly too, I'll just be completely transparent. A
lot of the stuff that I didwhen I first was doing stand up comedy
I wouldn't do now because it wouldit would conflict with my faith. Um,
not that you can't be a standup and be totally funny and be
relevant, but a lot of thestuff that I did, but there are

(56:58):
still things there are character is thatI would love to revisit, and I
would change a couple of things.But I also David and I got to
know each other Pendleton because I alsostarted doing the triloquism a few years ago,
and so I do some stuff withthat. And I have a character
called Scotty Mathews and Sampson who Ido, who's actually a horrible ventriloquist.
He comes out in the Scout uniformand the puppet is dressed up in a
Scout uniform as well, and thenI sing horrible lessons to teach people life

(57:22):
lessons like a woman's work is neverdone. And I do the thing about
it, you know, racial equality, called everyone's good at something, and
it just goes to every racial stereotype, and it was, you know,
it was one of the things.I still would love to do it,
and I think one of these daysmy dream, my dream road trip now
is to go to Austin. Iwant to go to Rogan's mother Ship,
ye completely dressed as Scotty Mathews andSampson, and I want to just I

(57:45):
want to go up and just doit because it's only about four minutes before
they could even realize they hate me. But the thing I do in my
stand up is I go in andI sit with the audience with clothes on
or whatever whatever character I'm doing,and then and they announced, and kind
of looking around, I walk upout of the audience. So people are
like, what's going on? Especiallywhen I come up with as a scout

(58:06):
master, They're like, is thisguy crazy? What's going It's kind of
Andy Kaufman esque, which is Ilove. That's That's another reason why I
keep gravitating Will Ferrell, because it'sjust that it's You're like, is this
real? What's going on? That'smy favorite kind of stuff. I've done
a lot of hidden camera shows too, and I that's why I love hidden
camera because I just love staring atpeople and watching the wheels turn like is
this person crazier? What is goingon? I'd like that too. Yeah.

(58:30):
I think that the crazier something is, especially in the stand up setting,
typically the better. As long asthere's substance. Yeah, And that's
the big thing, is like,how do you think with what are was
saying about? As long as there'sa story. Yeah, And I think
that's one of the things that inparticular, before we just go down our
whole comedy rabbit hole, and endup doing this for another hour. We're
talking about Andy Kaufman for six morehours. Yeah right. I think that's

(58:52):
one of the things about Robin Williamsthat was so unique was how manic he
was. But they're always seemed tobe like some type of flow, like
the transitions. Don't even talk aboutCasey Rocket, even if I wasn't,
I was avoiding him. I wastalking about funny comedians. So when Robin

(59:13):
Williams had his flow of like onemanic thing to the next, there always
seemed to be like a trigger point, like something you could connect to why
he went to this thing, andlike the story always always seemed to flow.
And so that energy when somebody cando that well, whether it's like
Robin Williams could do it for ninetyminutes or whether it's four minutes, that's
the stuff that I think really getsme because that feels like the height of
pulling together all of your talents.Yeah, and I would say along that

(59:38):
with Robin, you know the thingAnd I never saw him live or work,
but I know a lot of peoplewho worked with Robin, and Robin
had the great ability to make thingslook like they were off the cuff.
And like he was doing crowd workwhen actually everything he did had been pretty
much thought out and written, buthe could assemble it in such a way
that it appeared to be improvisational.And that's to your point. That's he

(01:00:00):
knew where the beats where his stuffwas pretty tightly crafted. Uh, he
was. He really knew what hewas doing. There was no accidents with
him, whereas somebody like a friendof mine, Ian Bag, who is
a great comedian who's from Canada.Ian's most of Ian show is purely crowd
work off the top of his head. I mean, I'm sure there are
there are certain things that will recurbecause you're bound to have the same types

(01:00:22):
of audiences. But Ian's work isamazing and he's truly just like he's making
it up on the spot, whichis incredible. You ever get a chance
to see him live, he's incredible. Well are you ready for this?
Does he travel Stateside? Oh?Yeah, he lives out here now,
but he's originally Canadian. But yeah, you can find mean, like if
you just google Ian Bag on anyany of the social media site, you'll

(01:00:45):
see his stuff. But he's he'sjust incredibly fun cool. Well, we
love to check him out, Dan. As you well know, we end
all of our interviews with a littlesegment that we call controlled routiness, especially
out. Yeah, this is justa series of rapid fire questions which you
can answer with as short or aslengthy response as you would like to.

(01:01:05):
There are no right answers, butthere are several wrong ones. So make
sure to not step on any ofthose landmines. To expect nothing from us
by way of reply or response.And I gets going, I'm gonna send
it over to General Grease. GeneralGrease here, Dan, I would this
isn't gonna be rapid fire question.I want to know how do you do
your hair? How do you makeit? Do that? Because look at

(01:01:28):
it is ridiculous. A lot ofproducts, a lot of gel I have
a special brush and I have twohamsters who now it's it's you know,
it's just something. My hair getslonger and it's got this wave in it.
And I rely on that because Iplay a lot of news anchors and
when I had need to have anchorhair, I know exactly how to make

(01:01:50):
it happen. There you go,so, um, will you We're sending
you something in the chat right now? If that's easy enough for you to
pull up, since you are professionalnews anchor portrayer, if you wouldn't mind
taken taking that little bit of andby the way, like you, like

(01:02:13):
you mentioned earlier, if you wantto punch this up, you just feel
free. If Josh Whedon thinks you'regood enough to punch this stuff up,
we're just gonna see whether or nothe's right. So here's the thing I'm
trying to figure out because I seeit here on my phone and I don't
want to turn. If I turnmy phone, it's going to be weird
for you guys. Right, well, I mean, but this whole thing

(01:02:35):
is weird for us. All right, let me let me just try something
here because perfect pertract's good. Yeah, this will work. I just want
to be able to read it.Okay, it's not weird at you.
Just try reading this two all right. I'm used. I'm used to a
prompter. But let's see if Ican do it. You're ready, Let's
go do my best, Bill,O'Reilly, We'll do it live. Okay,
we got good evening on dance statjob with breaking news. A catastrophic

(01:02:59):
event has just occurred in the heartof the city, caused by a decision
made by the CCA or the ChristianComedy Association. The CCA has been a
prominent group in the city for decadesand trusted source of clean comedy networking,
but today they made a decision thathas resulted in dire consequences. They have

(01:03:19):
refused to let any new members intotheir exclusive club, causing an uproar amongst
the city's elite. Quite frankly,the entire city is rioting as we can
speak. As we speak, Ican see it outside. There is a
Volkswagen bug. I believe it's asixty nine. It appears it is on
fire, a flame as we sayin the news business. As a result,

(01:03:40):
a group of disgruntled individuals hook mattersinto their own hands and farted in
their general direction. Flatulence is alwaysthe best source of revenge. Eyewitnesses report
that the attackers actions resulted in thebuilding collapsing in on itself due to the
supreme vcuum created by the flatulence.The city is in chaos as emergency services

(01:04:03):
work to rescue any survivors and containthe damage. The CCA has issued a
statement expressing their shock and sadness atthe events and pledging to fully cooperate with
authorities in their investigation. Investigation ratherpardon me that you fall out from this
decision by the ccas yet to befully understood, but it is clear that

(01:04:23):
the repercussions will be felt for along time to come. We org everyone
to stay calm and follow the instructionsof emergency services, and we will bring
you more updates on this developing storyas they become available. This is Dan
satch Off and now we'll throw backto match game. Thank you for indulging

(01:04:45):
rolling that. Yeah, that wasbrilliantly So we're we're going to send this
there is that something that you wroteor that you had chat gpt right for
you chat gpt, but chat gptgot pretty violent, so I changed it
to a fart okay, yeah,which I thought would be much much more
appreciated. Do do you feel itit was like they brought guns and knives.

(01:05:06):
I was like, no, itwas just it was just a tute,
just aitute. So, Dan,do you think that that was something
that you would put at a higherechelon than when you played in Sin Williams
in your uncredited role in Star Warsthe Next Generation? Or do you feel
like this is a diminishment of yourvery first IMDb credit to have to have

(01:05:27):
just done that. I feel thatthis was much better than my role as
Williams painting a nude model on theholiday of At least that had some artistic
value. That's high note. Yeah, all right, well, well there

(01:05:50):
we go. Hey, Dan,thanks so much for coming on the show
today. Man, tell our audiencewhere it is that they can find you
if they want to follow you onsocial media or check out and find me
on Instagram at Dan side or venttricklist is my is my handle that if
you look for Dan satch Off youfind it. Also on TikTok you can
find me as Dance satch Off.And on YouTube you can find me as
mister fun Puppets. You can seesomeone stand up and some other things on

(01:06:13):
there. Yeah, yeah, that'ssomething else. It's a great dis Mister
fun Puppets, Mister Fun Puppets.I love the names peaking the legend.
Dan, thanks so much for beingon the show. Man. We appreciate
it. I thinks we're being agood sport. Dan Freakin satch Off.
Yeah, what a good sport.Oh man. He was great. He's

(01:06:35):
he had a lot of great stories, but really he rolled with a lot
of nonsense. I don't know howelse to say it. I appreciate I
appreciate someone that can roll with ournonsense. We've got some nonsense. I
wasn't gonna say it again. Whyit's redundant? You just you just told
our guest how awesome it is tojust say the same things or like continue

(01:06:59):
on in this veins of comedy notanymore. Oh you're so prissy now?
Um? Yeah, so a lotof the crazy background crazy? How many?
How many of shows that we lovehe's been we don't even talk about,
Like the tick was some other talked? So the tick is one that
I forced my wife to watch andshe hated it at first and then like
really came to like it over time, even though it was Man he was

(01:07:25):
in future? Man? Was hereally? Which I loved. I don't
know. I you you would likeit, but I would say it's not
safe. It's not safe for it. I watched a no episode. It's
not safe for the CCA, that'sfor sure. Well, but what is
safe in this world? Yeah?After after the flatulence that that destroyed all
of it. Yeah, so it'sit's just fascinated to me to see a

(01:07:48):
guy like that. Who's like thebreadth of his work, And we didn't
get into to some of the voicework that that he's done. A series
that he created, produced, youknow, uh created, produced, wrote,
and start in, which I thinkis I mean that just sounds like
a completely overwhelming endeavor to be apart of that. Everything rides on your

(01:08:11):
shoulders, and you know it worked. He was able to pull it off.
Yeah, some of that's very funny. So I love hearing about the
Groundlings too. Yeah, you likedhearing that his wife was cool. I
wasn't sure how to ask, andit ended up just going like, I'm
sure she's cool. I'm sorry forsaying anything. Maybe I'm part Canadian.
Maybe so I'm very very polite.No I'm not. Maybe. My favorite

(01:08:33):
thing is our little wars that weare petty wars. We just pick up
somebody likedleton. We've been in itfor months. Yeah, we've been in
it for a long time. Yep. But you know you watch it.
Yeah, you're you're unnoticed. Look, whenever we want to do something.

(01:08:55):
Yeah, what did he say?His YouTube handle was the Funny puppet Man.
Yeah, yeah, mister Funny FunnyPuppets, Mister Funny Puppets is on
our team, Dave. You know, yeah, come you make sure that
you check out all of Dan's stuffin the show notes and uh go go
check out mister Funny Puppets. Checkhim out on Instagram. He's constantly posting
stuff. He says that he's watchingTurn on the TV and you'll see damn

(01:09:18):
yeah, no, no joke.Um go rewatch the pilot for Agents of
Shield and Blackish, or he's notin the pilot for Blackish. Oh,
I didn't mean the pilots meant theshow yeah, or the tick Agents of
shields West Wing, I mean StarTrek. Great news. He was also
in a two Change music video,which we didn't need to talk to that

(01:09:39):
at all, So there's I wantto be sings in that. He did
say singer. I think people asa report. No, I think he
has been trilloquism somehow in the TwoChange music video. We really buried the
lead. Anyway, leave us acomment, let us know how disappointed you
are. Not touching on some ofthose stuff in the show notes. And
until next time, we gets stayhard, keep jamming, and we'll see
you. Hello. I'm dance atyou off. I'm an actor. A

(01:10:01):
singer, ventroloquist, performer, andI would never watch the Reverend and the
reprobate simply because I disagree with everythingthey stand for. That is all
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