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Hi guys, Ricky Pope here fromthe Christian Nerds Unite podcast. On the
show, we dive deep into ournerdy fandoms and look at them through the
lens of our faith by chatting withChristian content creators and experts who love comics,
science, video games, media,sci fi and fantasy, discovering how
their faith shapes their creative work andtheir lives. You can listen on your
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How I got suckered in. I'mso embarrassed about here. You're wasting
your Time's got better things to do. Never listen both Darling Yummy Reverend and
the remper Bay. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Reverend. And before
my name is Lucas Pig, anactual pastor in here with me as always
He's a man that tries to ruinthe show before it begins. Is Big
Dan Flip singing that song I don'tknow what she's talking about. You are
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unbelievable. That's the thing. Ifit doesn't happen on air, then it
doesn't happen. But it didn't.It does. No, no, no,
our life. That was a lotof fun. Then you go,
all right, that's over, let'sstart the show. He said, of
Hey, that was a lot offun. We're in the middle of the
show, is what I'm saying.Yeah, well we weren't until I started
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freaking turd. Who's this guy inbetween us? Flip cam Dung Cam Dung?
Who made a fantastic table? Igotta say. I walked in and
I saw and I thought, greattable seven segrety Yeah, no doubt.
Still it's not a table yet.We agree, we do. It needs
a top, needs some cardboard,some kind of word or glass, or
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a bunch of melded machetes. Thatwould be a cool that would be You
could do that. You can?Can you weldering class? If we got
you, like like twenty machetes,could you weld them all and make into
a cool top? Yeah, thatwould look cool, that would be.
I mean I wouldn't I couldn't doit now. I don't own a welding
Jason's got one. Yeah, wecan hook that. We can just use
Jason's look that up. Yeah.But off end of this episode, we've
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got Camnandez who hard heart. Yeah, as you like to say. And
today we are just chatting as friends. Yeah, yeah, we are campid.
Camden is not becoming a star warthis week because we were gonna give
him a little bit of our breakbefore he enters into the sequel trilogy.
Who Okay, So jj Abrams cameout. I don't know if you saw
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this. It was a Collider article. Jj Abrams came out and said,
uh, listen, it's obvious tome now we should have had a plan
before we started the sequel trilogy.Yeah, well they just started filming.
Bro, you have no idea whatyou're about to walk into. I don't.
I don't want to ruin it foryou because there's a lot of cool
stuff. There is a lot ofcool stuff, and potentially one of these
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three films is one of my favoriteof all times. And we cannot we
can't. I want his honest opinion, So we can't all the film because
I will say, and I'm notgonna ruin anything that he and I a
lot of security about this very harshly. But I do think before we watch
the or before like, before wecome in and rule judgment on the sequel
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trilogy, we need to re engagewith them, as Camden does, because
I am hundreds of watches behind onSqueal trilogy versus versus into it. Yeah,
no, and I'm not gonna I'mnot trying to get you to enjoy
it feels like or to like itfeels like a gotcha, like we need
to watch so maybe you'll like it. So if you were to look at
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the sequal trilogy, how many timeshave you watched probably seven? How many
times have you watched episode eight seven? I saw it in theaters three or
four times? Okay? How manytimes have you watched episode eight twice?
Okay? How many times have youwatched episode nine three or four? Okay?
So with that right, how manytimes do you think you watched episode
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one, which is the one ofthe original two trilogies. I think the
least stuff exactly right. So Ithink that we should give each one of
these a rewatch, just to giveus a refresher on everything with that that
goes on. Yeah, that's allI'm saying, not to try and persuade
dissuade. I am on board withgoing in open mindedly and giving them a
new, a new graining knowing whatI think about them currently, but going
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in to go. So I recentlylistened back to our episode with the ladies
from Tea Time Crimes. Yeah,and Meghan has no frame of reference for
Star Wars. Okay, I thinkI think it would be interesting to start
Megan out with this sequel trilogy withlike just throwing her in an episod Z
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seven and getting some opinions about that. That would be interesting because I'm having
a hard time picturing that making alot of sense. Well, I mean,
it does kind of drop it,and that's what they made it for
the kids that get so that laterCamden's given us the whiplash look like oh
yeah, okay, yeah, it'ssee if she wants to join it.
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Just what I don't want to dois do it with Camden and then also
Megan, you don't want to doit twice with those movies in particular,
Oh yeah, for sure, Like, like, we may as well just
watch like Maiden Manhattan with nine differentpeople and see what we all think.
Maiden Manhattan. I'm saying it's ait's a dumb movie that I don't want
to see. I've never even heardof that movie. Jennifer Lopez. Yeah,
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no, I've never heard of,never heard of Maiden Manhattan. It
was in I don't know it wasin the nineties or two thousand. It
was an obscure movie that a lot. My point is it's an all the
movie that I don't care about,and let's watch it burn over. I
don't think this is apples to appleshere in champ when you're talking about it
an older obscure movie. Star Warsis a far from obscure. I would
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actually say Maine Manhattan's not obscure.It's not it's Star Wars. When I
think of Jennifer lopez movies, Ithink only of Gili, which is often,
you know, I don't think Ithought of as the worst was Her
and Been Afflict's thought of as universallypanned the worst movie of all time.
Yeah, yep, anyway, Kimdenback to it, yep. So,
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um, you got a job.You're you're doing some legitimate intern work.
Now that that not unpaid intern workfor this podcast, though you do have
to clock out to do stuff forthe podcast. So as far as I'm
concerned, Yeah, he's still We'rebuddy's still. Yeah. Yeah, you
guys are you're not an employee ofany kind? No, no, no,
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no, that's good. Um though, this is although if if we
had a ton of money, Iwould happily give you some. I'd give
you a Crisp pie five and thenand then point to some things that cursed
wants done that I don't want todeal with, and then we'd conversate you
for that. That actually sounds prettygood, it does, right, Yeah,
yeah, what do you what doyou got? Okay, gosh,
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nope, here's here's the deal thatis for you? And why is that
for Camden and not for because I'mturning in I'm turning in all my candy.
Yeah, so talk to us aboutyour pocket I travel with candy.
Okay, So talk to us firstoff, like about your weekend. Yeah,
and then what happened on Monday,which is why you're now having to
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pretty big. I lost a majorbattle Camden in my life. Please feel
free to ask questions about this wheneveras a battle I went, I went,
I went camping. Danley doesn't likea little area of the world known
as outside. Uh huh, Idon't like it. I don't understand why
it's a thing. Probably the smallestsection of the world outside. I would
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be fine with camping and yeah,this is not Actually I did have a
cigar and that was pretty dope.Yeah, for sure, that was cool.
Actually, you know what I mean, it was I'm using that word
colloquially. It was pretty busting.Yeah, he was busting. I got
I got a video of one ofthe kids going with this that, you
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know. I was talking to theother dads and I said, you want
a cigar and they're like, yeah, well a cigar. And he says,
I'll have a cigar. And Isaid hold on, and I got
my phone. I said say thatagain, and I zoomed in. He
said I'll have a cigar, andI sent it to his mom. That
was one of the kids that Isaid that. He said that. I
did not give him a cigar,to be clear, but I did think
it was hilarious. I thought youwere still talking about the dad. No,
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no, no, I was like, yeah, I was kind of
confused. You're very confused. I'malways do you want me to start over?
No, I went camping. Ohyou did I went camping? I
lost that battle. It was bustingit was not busting it. Uh.
We went swimming. There were certainlysome fun things. It was in mineral
wells, like mineral wells. Didyou get an amba? Was beautiful there,
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I will say, But not acamper, No, I uh,
I would. I would go intoRV. But I would also say that's
not camping. Yeah. Danley's versionof camping is when he thinks that no
one else is home and he stayson the toilet for way too long.
He thinks he sit on the couchand get some blankets and make a little
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fort. That was always my dad'sjoke, are you camping in there?
What are you camping out in thebathroom for? Ye? Also, I
got this really good sausage. Igot like three packs of this a cushi
in termined the name of it beefand beef and pork and then beef and
halapeno sausage. It was the onlything I was looking forward to. And
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then what happened? We left itat home? Oh, did you bring
something tonight for the class? No, it's in there, frisgerator. Also
I didn't bring the paintings. Yeah, I know, not bad. I
will happily bring some to share,but it's not made. Yeah, so
a coutrama sausage is that what itis? Yeah, let's go with that.
Yeah that was cool. Also reallycool is uh uh yeah talk to
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us. My wife and i's friendsgot got married, engaged, engaged,
so we did a Wow that's prettybad. We helped distract the potential bride.
Well, they went on a walkand we did up their cabin and
rose petals and all the dumb craftthat girls like. Yeah, so when
you say potential bride you met atthe time, because she hadn't yes said
yes, Erect hadn't yet said shewas, she was girlfriends now fiance.
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I hate when we turn them French. She got French real fast. They
become so snooty when you turn themFrench. It's it's a really weird thing.
It's like, oh, this ismy girlfriend fiance. Yeah, that's
it reminds you watch so Kurs andI rewatched lies Cali Lily. He said
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that. Um. Also, today'smy fifteen year anniversary wedding anniversary. Fifteen
years, fifteen years, fifteen yearsago. Today, Daney didn't let me
be in his wedding party. Thatis sadly true. Yeah, there were
there are many things I would changeif I could go back in time,
as I think many of us wouldto be fair. Um, you mean
you run a mean soundboard. Yes. And also and also, uh,
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you would not have wanted somebody inyour getaway party drawing the things on your
getaway car that I ended up drawingyour getaway car. Yeah, And I
wouldn't have cared what was their getawaycar was in this like circle drive,
and so it parked in front ofeverybody, and so like the one side
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of the getaway car was pristine andclean and the other side, let's say,
had some very juvenile drawings on itin shoe polish that you are now
passed or in his early twenties putin various sizes. Yeah, And it
was hilarious. And so so Heathergets into passengers stead of the car.
She has no idea that this hashappened. Danley walks around to the driver's
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side, sees all of this,gets into the car and everybody like they're
filming it, and the car goesaway and it was like yeah, and
then you see the cans and thejust married and then the car turns the
corner and one side of the caris just covered in very juvenile drawings.
Masculine. Yeah, and then they'relike drawings and there's all these these very
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nice moms holding cameras. They're like, oh, this is so wonderful,
but turn that off. Yeah.Campaign that happened, and then I went
to the doctor. Came back early. Yeah, it came back, came
back. I had an excuse toleave early. One of them was we
had a guest that ended up rescheduling. Yeah, that we had. And
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I was asked, well, ifyou use your schedulest. No, I've
got a doctor's appointment. You madeit. You told me I can't get
out of You told me I gotgotta go, gotta go half to So
I went and it was weird,and the doctor had some dumb questions for
me, like why is your high? Why is your blood pressure still high?
And and uh, do you tellhim because I've almost been married for
fifteen years? No, but sheasked, uh. She said, uh.
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I said something about you know,I've gained some weight, and she
says, what was your weight?You know, I said, I I've
lost a lot and I've added Shesaid, what were you like a year
ago. I was like, Iwas like, I told her, and
it's like eighty pounds and she's like, that's a lot of weight to gain
in that amount of time. AndI was like watch me, Oh,
I'll lose it. I don't care. I I've done this already. She
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said, there's no way it wasand then and then I was at three
oh nine. Uh, this isn'ttwenty nineteen or something, right, and
I dropped down to two twenty five, right, Yeah, And then that
was probably a course of a yearand a half or so. Okay,
so two twenty five is where youwere at in twenty nineteen, yes,
because when we started the podcast.Yeah, when we started the podcast,
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I was chunkier than you. Yeah. By that point I had had my
ACL surgery and I was no longerin shape, lucas you were no longer
in shape, Dan turning into giveup Dan. And in twenty twenty we
did turn into give up and likeif you watch are talking about yeah,
like you've apps by Christmas, yeah, which is still twenty twenty four.
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So we I have kept saying twentytwenty five, we get as he did
away to twenty twenty five. Yeah, last year when we said twenty twenty
four and I was like, Ifeel way too close. So so with
with that, we both in thosefirst episodes you can watch our faces expand,
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and then we have this realization likehalfway through twenty twenty that like in
December, where we're like we havegotten We've gotten way out of troll And
I just want to say that I'vebeen putting my body on the line for
this podcast. Yeah, it waswith this with Candy Bits. Okay,
so I'm turning it in. Soyou were you and three oh nine Danley,
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because you're such a tall guy andso broad, you better, but
you did have your wife pulled upa picture of three h nine dan so
she it just like popped up somewhereand Kirsten goes that it was me.
I dropped a lot away and thedoctor condescendingly told me, well, you
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know, diet, it's important,and I was like yeah, yeah,
yeah, like I get it.I'm not an idiot one of those people.
What's the deal what's it called doctornow? Uh? Doctor Pounds and
Counting or whatever those shows where theygo like they're in the hospital right and
he comes in, he goes,hey, you've you've gained twenty seven pounds
since I saw you last. Theygo, I don't know why. I
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don't know why. I don't knowwhy. I've been doing everything. I'm
like, shut up. Yeah,like you know why. I know why.
I know what's been going on.You should text them. I know
why. I know I know howto fix it. Yeah. I'm not
here for you to tell me thisdoctor, right, I'm here for testosterone
supplements. I know i'm fat.TRT will fix that. It'll make my
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muscles more big. I won't goto the gym, but I'll go buy
a gym, and that should beenough. I want my own body to
do all the work for me.No, no, no, I'm happy.
I'm gonna get back in the gym. Actually, I've got a small
bonus coming my way. Okay,my new job. Nice. I'm gonna
take some of that and invest ina gym membership. Yeah wow, I
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get a couple months paid up frontand make it happen, give myself a
running start. Okay. So,but the doctor specifically said, what did
she tell you about candy in particular? No, she didn't. She didn't
say anything specific. The story thatmy doctor says I can't have canned anymore
because I'm fat. So I wasliterally what I was after elaborating a little
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bit off of what she said.But what she said was, uh,
how much do you eat? AndI was like a lot? You know.
She said, do you drink itall? I said, yeah,
I had drink beer sometimes. Shewas like how much. I don't know,
a couple of times a week maybe, yeah. Uh you smoke?
I said, don't smoke cigarettes.You smoke cigars. She's like, all
of these things are bad. Uh? And what isn't bad broccoli unless you're
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a baby or eating broccoli only.Yeah, it's true. So uh say,
um, I know the answer.I know how to do it.
I'm not on that TV show.So I'm doing it. I've been doing
it for two days and I feelawesome. Do you yeah? Are you
doing? Are you doing cranberry juice? No? Okay, like no,
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no, no legitimate questions. Thisis secret weapon that I don't know about
kind of are you doing the cranberryjuice? So if you do like straight
cranberry juice, like not from concentrate, right, because of the amount of
iodine that's in it, it helpsthis. Yeah, it helps regulate a
bunch of stuff with your thyroid,and the sugars breakdown so slowly that it
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can help you burn fat throughout theday and cause your energy levels to be
more sustained because of the consistent slowburnbecause the sugars that are in it.
I might try that. It's rightnow, I'm doing low car but I'm
sticking to that for a little bit. Yeah, yeah, but maybe maybe.
Yeah. I'm not against secret weapons. Yeah, which is why I
wants testosterones. I don't know thatthat's a secret weapon as much as it
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is. We're over ninety five,and so like we're like, hey,
am I, Well I keep gettingtold like I've asked years ago. You
know when I was in the gym, was hey, Kana getstosterone. They
said no, it's not good atyour age, and I was like,
well, what the what? Yeah, like, are you gonna try to
have any more kids? I don't. I don't think so Okay, then
there's no because they they did saythat you once you go on it,
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you typically are on it for therest of your life. Your natural testosterone
drops in. It's just something youneed to factor in. Yeah, but
I like the idea your testosteron thoughif you get in the gym, it's
kind of boost Yes, hey,teeny, we hope you enjoyed this part
of the podcast where we talking aboutTestoster whatever. She loves it. Plus,
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I'm gonna get a bunch of ashwagandathat's the sausage. Yeah okay,
No, it's a it's a supplementwhich is different and I'm not really gonna
get which is different from fish water, which is different. Some before I
went on the diet, it wasout of this world good. I mean,
does it matter if it's just meatand water? Yeah, that sounds
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no. You gotta put on ricebeans or beans are fish? Water without
rice is garbage. But we haven'tasked hamm in anything a little while.
Yeah, Camden, tell me whatwhat project are you working on right now?
Yep? Um of fancy light trusts. So I have a problem with
this. Oh my gosh. Uh, you're you're making a light trust that's
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going to hold up all these beautifullights that uh the light up are big
fat dumb faces. Are we goingto have a moment where we have the
airing of grievances? Yeah? Okay, here, what does it called festivals?
Holiday for the rest of us.Uh, why can you not make
one with tegrity? We made atable with chains that supports itself, so
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why can you not make one?I technically could, But how much money
would it cost for parts? Howmuch a lot just ball park? I
don't know, but a lot threehundred, seven hundred hundred fifty Are these
dollar amounts since you're throwing out there, yeah, dollars. I don't know
exactly how much mind costs because Ididn't pay for most of materials. Where'd
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you get it? Let's get thatguy know the I s D paid for
it? The school district? Didyou get steal some from the school?
All I paid for? Great?Like, what are you doing to it?
Yeah? Fantastic. Yeah, let'ssteal stuff from school. That's like
a wonderful thing. Different at seeingwe've been careful. Elvis might come back
at drug Sniff and Dog Christian Nerd. HQ does not endorse the stealing of
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medals from schools, but Danley doesgo ahead. I don't even remember what
I was saying. Oh, yeah, how do you expect me to get
into the school? And also Idon't think I don't that was a throwaway.
They don't give you a kid tothe school like they did Scott Adams.
Yeah, did they do that?And no. Recently interviewed on Ricky
Pope's Christian Nerd Unite podcast, memberof Christian Nerd h Q. Yeah,
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I'm just gonna try to see ifI can keep working stuff in for the
rest of this episode. Now,okay, it's gonna be my new bit.
Since you're out of candy, Ijust keep picking up and feeling it.
You feel delicious. So so youdon't have the arts and you think
that they're gonna be very expensive.Yeah, I also don't have a welding
machine. Again, we can solvethat. Stop bringing that up. Okay,
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sorry, goal, I feel likethat's a legitimate We don't have a
welding machine. Sure, we cansolve that. You could also solve the
money thing if you wanted to goout and yeah, how many? That's
why I was asking how many?Hundreds of dollars because I have a small
bonus. Come of all, Right, now I'm not buying them. I
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think it's going to be pretty interestingto see how YouTube's auto caption hits hounets.
Let us know in the comments howthat's spelled hunets. Yeah, over
and over again. Okay, soyou're making a lighting trust, which you
went to hardware. Yeah, youwent to the hardware store today many time?
Did you get tell me about that? That's my fault. Yeah,
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it's my fault. I didn't knowwhat I was getting. Um, so
I went the first time I wasthere for a while. One was like
research, right. No, thefirst time I was getting bunch of random
crap that I thought I could puttogether and make a light trust. Christian
Que does not support him to singcrap trust the lighting trust. No,
yeah, you can say that ifyou want to. Disgusting. And then
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I came back. I forgot something, went back, and then I came
back here, and then Lucas hadsome um altercations to my design, altercations,
alterations due to his designs. Meand his design got enough big altercations.
I lit it on fire and threwit in a grass patch. Um
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no, there were some, didyou. I started to work out and
do some calpases. Yeah. Weput it in the corner on a couple
of soup cans. So to thelighting trust that's going to hold up our
lights. Yeah, so I gotsome some shelf holders, and it wasn't
I didn't change the design. Whatwe did is we we looked, did
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you more just have some questions likehow is this going to work? Yeah,
that's basically it. Yeah, Yeah, okay, okay, I see
that you've thought this through. Nowlet's look at the piecesn't move the export.
And the great thing about Camden isone, um, he's great.
That's an end of story. He'sawesome. No, then you're you're willing
to be collaborative and the effort aboutyeah, you don't attach your ego to
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the project, which I think isa really important thing, and I think
it's a really really difficult thing fora lot of people to do, especially
Yeah, they're like as soon asgirls, but like as soon as like
it's it's not this, oh youdon't like me because you didn't like what
I did. It's hey, thisis a critique in something that we can
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you know, make better or changein order to make it fit a situation
a little differently than maybe what weare originally anticipated. And you roll with
the punches on that stuff. Anddude, that's a super super mature thing,
not just like it's very cool emotionallymature, but also as far as
like your leadership potential, capability.It's it's it's very impressive for a young
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man to be able to do that. So I agree, I'm proud of
you. I'm glad you're here.Yeah, up top. I'm having fun
with you in these in these funseries, are we? Yeah, talk
about drug sniffing dogs and star wars. Yeah. You did have a question
for us though, because Dan Leeearlier today tried on ladies coat. Yeah,
a cross dressed in them and helooked a little bit like if typically
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if Cody Rhodes had a lot ofcandy. I don't know who he is.
He's a WWE superstar. Um,you should check out. You know
who discusses Cody Rhodes a lot isRyan Winderson on the Christian Nerd HQ WWE
Premium Live event recap that he doesafter each one of the Premium Live events.
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All right, yeah check that.Check that out. I will be
checking it out. Yeah, Soyou have no excuse yep. And many
of you will know Ryan. He'sbeen on the show show before and was
a hilarious and AWESO. I'm sorryabout that. Yeah, why don't you
call him so? But Camden hada question because you had tried on a
ladies jacket which did not fit,but it looked good, done good.
Buttons were on the wrong side.But other than that, pretty close.
So what was your question, Camdenripping out of it. I just remember
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asking what was the duster story?That the duster story old Dusty All right,
yeah, I think that's I thinkyou got to start this one.
I don't remember how we would havebeen. We would have been like early
twenties. I remember the highlights.I saw some picture. Yeah, yeah,
Camden, Okay, So Camden foundout today and this this will kind
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of put on for a while thaty'all were in a band and I knew
that you did some like crazy stuff. Yeah, but Camden found out today
that like our our intro song,our our outro, the transition that we
use in between like interviews and thingslike that. He found out today that
was all one song that we wrote. Um, as I was, I
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wrote the song, Danley wrote thehook for the song, and wrote the
bridge, which is what we usedwhen we come in and out of interviews.
Um. The beginning of the ofthe show and the end of the
show are both parts of that song. At the beginning and the end of
that song and uh and so Camdenheard that for the first time today he
saw some pictures. So this isduring that time, this is sixteen seventeen
years ago something like that. Yeah, when I was born. Yeah,
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yeah, exactly right right around thesame time. Um, we were at
Danley's parents house at Casa de Raginmajin as as we were back in the
day softening chicken cordown blue and chickenspaghetti from frozen bags that were like jiming,
I cannot eat any longer, atleast for a while, whomp wamp.
So yeah, I will I willnot be these things. I shouldn't
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say can't. I'm able to,but will not be. So we were
we were just hanging out. Wewere bored, and we opened up the
coat closet at Danley's house and therewere these two black dusters I'm talking like
beautiful leather black actually water buffalo.Oh yeah, from Australia. They looked.
The name of the brand is drysa Bone. Is it really yes,
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Okay, so we got it fromthe State Fair. They're they're incredible
and they look. We had recentlywatched Tombstone Water doesn't even actually waters terrified
of these that's exactly what they lookedlike. Were the dusters that the guy's
in Tombstone, like white rupe anddoc holiday and so we were like,
oh, we're we don't have anythingto do tonight, We're gonna put these
on. In fact, we knowwhat we're doing tonight. Yeah, so
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we put the dusters on and immediatelycome up with the world's worst idea,
which is just go eat. Uh. There was more to it than that,
Okay. A friend of our drummerwas waiting tables at a restaurant called
good Eats, which he had justlike, yeah, he had just moved
up to supervisors where he was.Yeah, so he was like, he
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was the head waiter of the nightshift there at good Eats, and this
is on like a Tuesday night.There's like nothing going on. It was
in a pretty remote place and sothe restaurant is typically particularly dead, but
it's like fifteen or twenty miles fromDanley's place at the time. So we
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we thought we looked really cool inthese dusters. The thing that would really
complete it, though, is cowboyhats and cap guns. So we went
to we went to the dollars storeand made one of the funniest purchases,
which led to one of the potentiallymost dangerous decisions we ever made in our
entire lives, which is kicking inthe door at good Eats. Yeah,
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so we buy these cap guns andthey're they're each we each get revolvers,
we and holsters and cowboy hats.And then this is where boots, well
we have boots. Yeah, yeah, we were in boots. And this
is where I'll let you pick upthe story again. I only remember the
highlight, but I remember yep,laughing, pulling up to Goody it's getting
out, and then kicking in thedoor and running into shooting. We kicked
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in the front door the good Eats, ran into the bar section and yeah,
put them up, and then startedfiring cap guns in there. And
this is so long ago that nothinghappened, Like no police were called.
Where now that would probably be onthe news. Oh yeah, for sure,
two idiots with cap guns coming inthis place. Not only that we
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did it in Texas, in aplace where we know people. Carrie.
Yeah, yeah, hey real quick, yeah, quick story about Texas.
I called the Texas Department and Transportation. We did some work for him.
Yeah, uh, and I hadI had a bill for them, right,
they owed us some money. Yeah, so I got so funny.
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I got the guy on the phoneand I said, hey, I've got
this, you know, this workorder that we completed, and we've got
this invoice to send Gennita. Ineed a PO number and how we're gonna
take care of it. He says, this is a state of Texas.
We don't pay any dag on bills. And I died laughing. But it
also is like, is that true? It might be true. Yeah,
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yeah, it's hard to say.And then he laughed and he said,
no, I'm just skidding. Igot you. Yeah, but I couldn't
believe that that happened. That thatwas hilarious. A Texas representative was that
cool? I mean, that's nothingthat makes believe, it makes makes sense,
but it happened. I couldn't believeit happened. Yes, so we
uh so we fire all of thesecap guns. Um, nobody pulls guns
on us, which was really nice. That's nice. Well, of course,
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which risk you ran then I didn'tthink about, yeah, which which
you don't think about sometimes. Soso we do that. Um, we
run that risk, and we're we'retwenty twenty one whenever this is happening.
The other three people that were inthe bar and just kind of like turned
and looked to make sure like wedidn't shoot their beers, and they were
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like, well, I don't seemlike they're looking for us, so yeah,
they kind of turned back, anduh, but I think we got
some food while the wait staff down. Okay, the wait staff freaks out
right, and they go get theirshift manager, a ka our drummer,
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and he comes. Oh, andhe wanted so like I'd love Brandon,
but he wanted to be the toughguy as often as possible. So he
comes out and he's got his bigbarrel chest to dude, and he just
comes march around the corner like whatthe heck's going on, and he's he's
two guys with the consent. He'slike, what the and he looks down
and then he looks at us andhe just dog cusses us. I'm talking,
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I don't know the last time somebodysaid so many terrible things to me,
and I couldn't hear any of itbecause I was too busy laughing.
And then and then we sat downand I just was just talking back to
him about my order and we werelike, we'll have a table. How
could you hear that? A chickenfried steak, green beans? But yeah,
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that was it, that was it. That was fun. Those were
good times. That was good times. It's definitely not something that I would
encourage anyone to try and pull offthis day and age. Yeah, so
you're saying I shouldn't do that,No, definitely not. No, I
would stay like away far you shouldget called yummy by Lean Morgan though,
which we might be able to facilitatesoon. Yeah, so exciting news for
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her. We we had her scheduleto come in, she had shows in
Dallas schedule in the June. Shewas going to come in and uh and
record an episode with us, butshe's actually she's shooting a movie now,
so she had to move all ofher June dates. And guess who's been
called yummy by Lean Morgan? Yourstruly and Lucas Yeah soon to be Canden,
did you Candon are definitely yummy.This statement is also not endorsed by
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Christian Earn, but it is byDamn. Yeah, so I'm Moran.
It's it's one of those things wherelike, okay, so it's a bummer
that like the show's got moved andthat a guy tell another guy who's looking
fly Yeah, but not yummy.I think it's safe if used any concept
of Morgan quote. Yeah. Sowe uh we we got um informed by
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her her people that they're they're notgoing to do the Dallas shows. All
that stuff got moved because she's gotthis opportunity to shoot this movie. It's
her first major motion picture. We'rereally excited for her. And it looks
like we'll probably get her back onin the next couple of months, and
another pretty exciting potential guest might becoming on around at the time that and
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it will like, if it happens, it will have already aired by the
time that this comes out, becauseit'll get fast tracked the week of the
flash. We might get one ofthe executive producers of of that movie and
and of the Batman film. Ilooked up his role on IMDb. Yeah,
it's astounding, how much Oh mygosh. Yeah yeah, and lego
Batman stuff really anything with Batman,anything with Batman. He's he's EAPs yeah,
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yeah, because he bought those rightsin nineteen seventy nine. Yeah,
yeah, a long time ago.It's it's absolutely crazy his story's great.
He's written a couple of books,one called The Boy Who Loved Batman and
the other called Batman's Batman. Theguy's name is Michael Uslan, and we're
He makes me feel bad about myselffor not knowing as much about Batman as
he does. I'm sure you knowwho for not loving Batman as much as
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he does. I'm sure so badabout myself if you If you want to
know more about Michael Uslin, youcan check out the Christian Nerd HQ partner
show Tattooine Sons. Nate, theyoungest of the two sons, did an
interview with him, in which MichaelUslan tells, Nate, you are the
most informed Batman person I've ever met, and it's it's really really cool.
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Oh, oh for sure. Nateis like the he's a Batman encyclopedia.
What I did start it was Istarted watching the Batman, uh the cartoon
from there? Oh yeah, yeah, early two thousands, I believe,
Yeah, I had. I didnot want to watch it when it came
out because it wasn't Batman the animatedseries, the original, but it's great.
It's a different voice. Actor BruceWayne looks different. These are all
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things I didn't like at the time, but it's really good. Yeah it
is. I watched I'm a coupleepisodes in, but I was wrong,
you know, so Kursten. Atfirst we were trying to find things that
like we could watch, especially likeduring the pandemic and then and then since
then, like stuff now that we'vegot Levi, especially when we first brought
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him home, things that we couldwatch that were like twenty minute watches,
so that you know, we weren'tforty minutes into a movie. And then
he cries, and then it's twohours before anybody can get back to you
know, and now it's like,I don't even remember what happened. In
my brain is mush because I've beenin a room with a crying baby before
for a couple of hours, Ifeel right now, Yeah, yeah,
for sure, I am Danley's cryingbaby. So when when we were looking
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for those those shows, especially onceLevi got home, we landed on Batman,
the animated series. She had neverseen any of it before. It
was you know, obviously we're likeway before she was born. We got
like three or four episodes in hestarts crying and she's like pause it like
whine. She's like, this isreally good and I had forgotten which movie.
No, Batman the Animated Series,Oh yeah, because it's on It's
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on HBO. Max. We getinto like the fourth episode and she's like
he starts crying. She's like,hey, pause it. I don't want
to miss this. It's so so, so good. Um. And the
animation style and all of that isvery very innovative for what it was.
And when we interviewed Lynn yuley Um, who at the time was working for
Disney Animation running for Duck tails andDarkwing Duck and Tailspin and all of that
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stuff, he was talking about howmuch he wanted to write for Batman the
Animated Series during that time because itwas so cutting edge. It was such
a great cartoon. The voice actorswere so great, with Mark Camill and
the late Kevin Conroy. It wasit was a really really cool thing.
That was the premiere of Kevin Conroy, Yeah, as as Batman. Yeah,
and then that was I mean whowas that made that guy's careers of
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all? Yeah? Um, youknow who they originally cast in the role
of the Joker, or who theyoriginally wanted was Tim Curry. Oh,
he would have been great. Sohe sounded too evil, like that was
it. And so there is there'ssome footage going around of him doing the
voice acting for the Joker, andit is like the first yeah, the
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first few lines, like you hearand you're like, uh, you know,
kind of whatever. Clue. Uhit the original it not the new
one. Yeah, it's uh,it's really weird. But so there's this
footage going around that's that's gotten himreading the Joker's lines, and it is
wild to hear his portrayal. It'sit's certainly hard to hear somebody that's art
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nart, Mark Harmer and it's notMark Hamill doing it, but it's Mark
Hamill. It's weird and interesting.Luke Skywalker. Luke Skywalker. Yeah,
he's also the voice in almost everything. Yeah, um, not almost everything,
but a lot speak of people withwith interesting voices. H we we
we made Camden get a library cardanyway, Yeah, I want to hear
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about that. Yeah what what madeyou get a library card? Yeah?
What what did it? Told me? He told me on your way home
today you stop by the Little himlibrary and get a library card. Are
you going to show us your yourlibrary card? Look at that. Oh
that's a nice one. That's clean. Yeah. Oh oh hey hide your
signatures and you don't want anybody stealingthat is actually my tegrity table. Yeah
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yeah, So but the reason Iwanted him to get that is and and
the reason I'm thinking about voices here, I've been I just finished listening to
a book called Extreme Ownership, whichI'm not like the first one that's on
this. So Jocko Willink and LafeBabin wrote it. Jocko was the and
I'm sure a lot of you allare gonna be like, oh, this
book is so old, like whatever, I can't believe you're just I don't
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care. Um, it's phenomenal inthe way that it talks about leadership is
okay today, okay? So hehim in life read it? Yeah right.
And Jocko's voice is very regular.Whenever you're you're listening to, he's
got, you know, obviously likea deep, commanding voice. Laife Babbin
sounds like he spent his entire deploymentin Iraq during Ramadi screaming at somebody seven
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streets over. So Jocko's voices,he's like, this is you know,
Jacko Willink and then he reads it. It's very like a matter of fact,
and we did this, and wedid this, and we did this,
and then there was an entry andthen they brought the hunter and then
have you seen him on Rodan?So one of the guys from Jesus and
Jiu Jitsu, which is a showthat we record here is some of our
friends record at Isaac Tellef, JoshStrassberger, Stephen Little, and JP din
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Ll. JP Denell was a sniperunder Jocko. Works with Jocko all the
time with Echelon Front. He's oneof the guys that does leadership stuff there.
Isaac and Josh Strassberger are both doingthings for echelon Front. Now it's
crazy hearing him talk about like warstories. Okay, jo, So extreme
ownership is it's designed like this.There's a prince a poll of leadership that
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they tell you. They start witha war story and it's him or life
telling the war story. Then theygive you the principle and then they give
you the application to business like howthey use that principle and you know they're
consulting from so Jocko is very intense. Um. He looks like the kind
of guy that maybe would want todefinitely the kind of guy you don't want
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to meet in a dark alley wayor I like, I like in an
urban environment in the desert. Inan American sniper. The analogy that Chris
Kyle's father gives in the Moving ofthe sheep Dog. You know, if
you you're got to be you canbe a wolf or a sheep dog.
You know. I love that analogythat the soldiers they go over there that
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are doing good to fight for theircountry. That's what they're doing. They're
going over though, if you're inclined, you know, to uh to do
that, to do that, toviolence, to protection you have that you
can be a wolf. You canbe a bad guy or you can be
a good guy. Yep. Andso so Jocko was the commander of Task
Unit Bruiser and then Lafe is theplatoon commander. And I might have gotten
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a tile wrong, but essentially he'sthe platoon commander for UM Charlie platoon.
I remember correctly to be afraid ofUS, Russia and China. So I'm
trying. Yeah, there's some crazystuff that So, UM Chris Kyle was
a sniper under the command of Lafe, who was under the command of Jocko
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during his entire deployer Hardcore and they'reinsane. So so Jocko's voice is very
like direct, it's very matter offact and it's very intense, and Lafe's
is like deep and gravelly, andLafe talks about everything and it's like,
I as soon as he starts talking, I like hunkered down and like,
you know they a puppy. No, no, it's not like it turned
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into a puppy, Like I feellike I'm in the mission, right,
oh yeah, yeah, Like wewere hunkered you know, we were we
were set off on a rooftop andwe were looking for the enemy and we
heard that there were snipers two buildingsover and we had to make sure that
it wasn't a blue on blue Andlike as they're talking about that, Mike,
so I'm listening to this and justlike feeding the chickens, like I
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was just doing like nothing related tothis at all, and uh And Kirsten
looks at me and I was likewashing the dishes and she's putting leave out
of bed. I'm washing the dishesand she comes in and I did something
and she was like, did Iscarey? I was like, oh,
no, happy you're here. She'slike, well, what did you Why
did you do that? And whatdid I do? And she goes,
you did this, and I likeapparently, like when Laife is talking about
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like he's sharing the story, I'mso into what they're talking about. I
also went into cover while I waswashing my you know, cast iron skillet,
Like when we got back into coverand I'm like, yeah we did,
it's incredible, but oh yeah,like, uh, they really want
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my skillet. Yeah, the insurgentsare over there, and we got to
hear back from Bushop Company with Abraham'stanks to make sure that we're taking out
the right building. Is it buildingseventy nine? And then it's like we're
counting buildings. I'm like, yeah, we are one scrape and two scrapes.
We're going to call in an ACone thirty for this stage. Yeah,
it's The book is absolutely incredible andthe leadership principles are just phenomenal.
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With the because they've had a secondbook called The Dichotomy of Leadership where they
go a little bit more into likefinding the balance of extreme ownership, which
the basic principle being if you're theleader anything that goes wrong is your fault,
and that you have to own thatit's your fault, and that there
are no bad teams, but thereare a lot of really terrible leaders and
so we overcome those obstacles by helpingour team members through communication, through like
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cover and move decentralized leadership. Thosetypes of things that they talk about the
principles are wonderful using their preferred pronouns. Yeah, you're like going shut up
about that. Actually, no,that's not in the book. Um.
Yeah, so but we don't deadname our teammates. Yeah, yeah,
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no, no, for sure.Yeah, but the dead name, well,
that's that's something I hadn't heard ofuntil a couple of weeks ago.
So, uh, anywhere you don'tcall them boys, you don't know what
they think. So they anyway thatthey've got all these incredible things that they're
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doing that they're talking about. Umwith the whole idea that like leadership,
partners feelings, leadership is based offof whether or not you take ownership,
and that when you do that,you create a culture of ownership throughout the
ranks. And and it talks aboutthat. You know, they give the
story from the war and most ofthem from the very hard fought Battle of
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Ramadi and then into the principle andthen into an application for a business.
It's really cool. But my favoritepart of it the reason I bring all
of this up. I told Kimdid to go get this book which I
did, Which you did, Yeah, because there are a lot of those
things that I recognize that you donaturally. And I think that not only
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like going through this book will bean encouragement, but also help to develop
some of those things that as Iwas looking at it, like I think
too, Like the relationship between Jockoand Life is one where they talk about
like they encourage one another and theyyou know, leading from are leading up,
like leading from a subordinate position inorder to like help your direct reports
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or the people that are above youunderstand the difficulties that you're doing instead of
like saying no, we can't dothis, you know, bringing them alongside
you. Those kind of things arealso things that you do very naturally and
have encouraged me to do. Andso it's cool seeing talking to me,
Yeah, see talking to Canada.I was at first, but now now
I'm talking to you. Um.But a lot of those things like seeing
those principles now like how to beput into words, And I'm like,
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oh, this is something that Danleydoes, this is something that that Camden
does. This is something that youknow Jason, who we both know very
well, um, the kind ofthings that he does and implements naturally.
And I've kind of gleaned off ofsome of those habits. But having you
put into words is a pretty coolthing. So I can't recommend the book
high enough Extreme Ownership. And afterthat, we got to get you to
read Stormlight, and I gotta say, yeah, I think there's no better
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way I can listen this episode thana compliment to myself. So thank you
all for watching. If you're stillhere, if you're still listening, give
us a like, give us asubscribe, go buy us a coffee and
send us. And I'm candied asever grippatol in it because I will not
be eating this any longer. Thatside. You guys, stay hard,
keep jamming, keep on that jamsugar free, non sugar field. I'm
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count stupid.