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Hi guys. Ricky Pope here fromthe Christian Nerds Unite podcast. On the
show, we dive deep into ournerdy fandoms and look at them through the
lens of our faith by chatting withChristian content creators and experts who love comics,
science, video games, media,sci fi and fantasy, discovering how
their faith shapes their creative work andtheir lives. You can listen on your
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favorite podcast app or find links toeverything at Christian runite dot com. Everybody's
Lucas from the reven Rep podcast.I want to give you a quick disclaimer
about this week's episode. The morningthat we recorded with Batman executive producer Michael
Usland. Our friends isasing or christand Woody. We're here in studio with
us and we were just kind ofshooting a bull with them, and we
decided, you know what, thiswould be a great opportunity for us to
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record an impromptu episode. We seteverything up, we get ready to record
the episode, the content and itwas great and amazing, And as soon
as the episode's over, I realizeI never plugged in their microphones, so
the audio that you're getting is straightfrom the camera. We've talked to it
a little bit so it's easier tolisten to, but know that there are
some audio issues. If this isyour first time listening to the show,
this isn't what it normally sounds like. Go listen to our episode with Michael
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Euslin and you'll see what that's like. If you are a normal listener to
the show, Thanks for baron withus, and also we just didn't want
y'all to miss out on this content. Isaac and Kristen and two the funniest
people that we know, and thestuff that they said in the conversations that
we had were great. So we'llbe better next week and until then,
without any further ado, I think, and Kristen Woody great final host of
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Forest and Fires, Kyle Man ofJ Warner Wallace. Here, Davis Hey,
this is Baddy Bassins, Rry Pmroli, this is Mark Wider, this
is even the Cold, This isglam Warkan Graham Barker the Fifth And this
is why you should never never,never, never never. How I got
stuckered in. I'm so embarrassed aboutyou. You're wasting your time. Got
better things to do. Never listeningwas darling, yummy rab and the ramperm
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Bay today. Everybody, welcome tothe reference and the reperbated names. Luca
Speakers have an actual pastor and herewith me as always as a man who
his mom was drunk the day shegot out of prison. It's big Dan
Foot Gibson. She's still drunk out, so I'm curious. How does she
make the commode liquor? Did theymake in prisons? Um? I don't
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know. Yeah, I was gonnariff. I don't know. It's yeast
I know something about, but it'snot coming to mind right now. Okay,
because I know you you haven't watched. Well, a lot of my
friends just got an outbook prison.Yeah, we're talking about it and it's
not made. How you think weneed to have him on the show specifically
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for his commode liquor. We're alsoto talk about the guards that they have
overwhelming in monkey matures, supposedly,and they eat exotic means all day and
bixotic means. It's ostrich meat anduns. I don't know if I'm being
fed a line, but I don'tthink I am well possible on these sweet
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clean air waves. Today we havethe fabulous Whitties. What's going on in
Kristen now now Kristin Whitty. Yeah, switch Chris. Change. So the
last time we had you on,you were a webber miss miss Kristen.
Does this is Kristen? Now christ? Yeah, this is Kristen Whitty?
Does it? Did it feel nice? Did not have to change the last
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initial that like now? Like allthe things that were made for you,
like the sweet little macro may thingsthat Grandma made. Still people kept saying,
isn't it nice you don't have tochange your monogram? And I was
like, yeah, would be ifI had anything monogram. I think that
stopped in nineteen Yeah, yeah,I had zero monogram things. We were
giving monogram towels as a wedding presentand one of the very first things that
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that Kristen did, she went andshe hinding them in a bathroom so they
like looked really nice and um,then we had a spill and she just
needed something really quick to pick itup with, and so we she grabbed
one of the monogram towels and didit and then it was dispellered. It
didn't master best now that they wereout for like a month and then she's
like, dah, forget those arefor decoration. It bothers me when things
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that have a purpose and a useare put up for decoration, like decord
of blankets and decord of towels,and like, let's twice off, hold
on what kind of stuff record?She says, decorative decor to decorate?
How do we say it? Iwrong? How do designs? I'm just
decorative, decorated and yeah hearted extension, I think something new about you.
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I didn't know you, says Haveyou guys all been saying it wrong?
Decor saying decorative? Yeah, mywhole life, which I will say,
judging by this panel, we arelikely the ones who are wrong about this.
Oh no, I don't do verymany things that are decordative. Well,
I argue legion. Well, I'mbeating at the root word. It
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works to roll. The root wordis decor, therefore decorative. But you
don't say decorate. Do you decorateyour house? No? You don't.
Yeah, much like how you don'tgo to Idaly where you eat Italian food
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that d people say Italian. Mygranddad used to say that. He was
like it just out of you knowwhat. That's a granddad thing for sure.
Dad, and he grew up inEast Texas and had this wonderful thick
accent and just out of nowhere,he would make these really really broad,
strong statements. So it's absolutely absolutesilence into living room and he goes,
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you know who they made that Italianfood for, don't you? I was
like Italians? And he goes somebodyelse. I don't like it? End
their statement, and then all backto signs. It's all the grandkids are
like, do know? I wassaying Italian and nobody was ready to question.
So I've got a question, boyd. When when you guys got married?
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Did did the marriage? Thanks?Thank you for Also from in the
middle demand that married them was namedwit Wit married the Witties also like that?
From what was your guterary standpoint?Um, did they say, I'd
like to introduce you for the firsttime, mister and missus Isaac Whitty?
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Yeah, I think that's what theysaid. Why why did we do that?
I know I gave up my identityin exchange for security that the two
are about to become one flesh.Yeah, I get on get the last
name, that we're founding a newfamily, we're one. I don't know
that that's what we did. Ithink it was. Let's hear it from
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Isaac and Kristen why we need togo back and look, I honestly don't.
It has to be insuption. Idon't think my brain retained. I
just don't understand how the guy withthe very I don't know traditional you know
we now so it's it's the manwho did it all that's on the traditional
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wedding Christian wedding ceremony. Yeah whybecause of because of that, they're not
together under one household. It's thatIsaac, we still two people. I'm
just saying, I'm not shooting heroesat it. I'm just asking why.
Yeah, it's it's it's kind oflike what Kristen said, because there is
then like you become the family secarity. Now, yeah, it was somewhere,
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it's on tape somewhere, but wehave noice. I would like to
watch it. I would like towatch it where one reason in specific,
I've got serious beef about your wedding. Oh yeah, yeah, we'll hear
it. So I was controlling thehypa for your wedding ceremony. Thank John.
That's a that's a feel. Ohman, that's that's that's a great
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I will say playing the music forsomebody's wedding ceremony, way more pressure than
actually preaching the ceremony. I've donethat hundreds of times. I'm fine with
that. To push the music herebecause I'm waiting on other people's cues.
Wit did not give me the cue. Oh and you guys were supposed to
come down. So there's a songthat appears to have misfired that I will
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stay here. And now my badpoint is we need to go yes to
generate, but I need this expongefrom my record. I am way better
whatever needs to know. I knowhow to work and I'm yeah. Yeah.
My dad sat him down, Lucas, who is like run complicated technology
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sound equipped. My dad gave hima thorough works stamp. John Yeah he
did. We had I've had lessonand he did two twenty couple of things
right in now. So I wasI was happy when Steve Jobs is a
genius? Was Steve Jobs? Yeah, he's just he's posthumously a genius.
But you guys have started a newpodcast called the Not So Glamorous Ministry Podcast.
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You have talked to us about that. What's that about? We have?
So? I, oh, it'snot podcast is very glamorous miniSTR Yes,
not glamorous. Yeah. Um,the podcast is going to reach tens
of people, so just like Verymaybe the same time. Yeah, I
know, definitely am after this aspetition. Very podcast. Yeah yeah, it's
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about where we interview people not bigshots in the ministry, and we asked
them about their everyday life and andI would like to possibly get a job
in the ministry. So I thinkit's a good idea to interview people and
ask him if I can have theirjob. Oh, it's an excellent and
sneaky network strategy. That way youfind the people that are ready to hit
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the eject button, Like right beforethe job was on the market, they're
like, yeah, I think yourlord is leaving us somewhere else. It's
kind of like checking a little placecalled it anywhere, like checking the obituaries
for the real estate. Yeah,but more like checking the cancer ward for
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real estate. That was too darkbecause they're not quite dead. That was
right now it's but it's darker.Yeah, it's like visiting Miracle Max and
asking, hey, have you recentlyfound anyone almost dead? Very weak lighting
number a little bit. You getthat reference I'm so young? Is that
from the Princess? Right? Oh? Yeah, I know it was called
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Miracle Max. Yeah, Miracle Yeah, Billy Cristal Miracle Max, who was
supposedly they had a really hard timefilming that whole scene without Gilderd. Yeah,
she Witch. Yeah, I believe, sir. I don't think that's
in fact check. But the storysaid is pretty sure she was dead by
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then. The sword from the saidis that they had a really hard time
building that will seem because he wasjust killing her body. Who was Miracle
Max's wife, Carol Kane k Yeah, Guilder Redner and Carol Kane. There
was a lot of the same letters. One female comic is just like the
next. As soon as she getsmarried, they're all the same, that's
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true. Yeah, she was justJesus Wilder. Yeah, it was Carol
Kane married to Gene Wilder, isn'tthe Yeah yeah, missus Ricky Rickardo Yeah
yeah, yeah. Who was missusDesi Arnez. Are all women missus Gene
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Wilder ultimately? Yeah? Yeah?Why yeah? Why I love it because
there by the rationale that we wereusing earlier, I think they all used
their identity. I mean it allleads back, well, everything leads back
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to Gene mos All Wilder, whichis good because that means that, like
y Harry, so we're all adjacentto mel Brooks. That's very which I
mean, I'm very pleased to announcewe're mel Brooks adjacent since as married,
so you are in the closest thingto mel Brooks in the room. I've
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been having a love of here inwith Gene Wilder for fifteen years. All
right, that's great. What I'lljust fall on the logic. I've been
married fifteen years. Mine, forgetit, we'll drop it, right.
I took logic, not just youguys handed it. Why, we'll thank
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you. He'll take this out inediting. You will now. I'm so
happy that you're get to edit thison um. Yeah, well, where
are the limits of yes and that? Wilder? I think, Gene Wilder,
yes and limits. You're a realyes guy. You are dating you.
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You said something I was like,no, and then you were like
I take it as a personal IfI say something I think is funny and
I set someone up and they goI'm not going to do that, I
take personal offense to it. Howdo you too? Yeah? He really?
I Actually I get upset or ifthey derail my joke and they take
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it a different direction, like howyou that is his special lame. That
is all he wants to do isto I listened to our podcast earlier.
You guys an't want to talk aboutthat. Let's do this. Yeah,
this's on my mind. Yeah,pretty much, pretty much we have.
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We have been doing this segment withand you guys know Camden Aren't sweet Young
Camden our intern who we are makingwatch the Star Wars movies and then give
us reviews of them every week.So this one week, Camden is giving
us an explanation about a character anda plot line in Star Wars and daily
He's like, yeah, I wantto talk about Darth Maul. We need
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to talk about this, and camultedhim. Candon looks at him, him,
and he goes, let me finish. That's how much Candy Hay in
that episode, because I have hadan unhealthy relationship with Gene Wilder and Candy
and that makes you interrupt people withCharles Sugar does wild Yeah, that's actually
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the thing that we've said the mostabout Gene Wilder there that makes sense incorporating
him with can Yeah I think sofor sure. Yeah, because yes,
walk up, Yeah, I'm withyou over here. Yeah, so so
why have you wasn't no, No, that's the one that demands Yeah.
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Yeah, Violet was the one thatblew up like a blueberry. What's your
dressed like Violet? Right now?Yeah? You are no sense, mister
beauregard. Um talk to us aboutyour your recently. Um, how do
we want to say it? Itneeds to be said in a way that's
classy and that is respectful. Um, your recent party of waves with sugar.
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I just stuffed eating sugar? WhyDan? Because I was getting fat
and it wasn't looking good at thatresult. Is that why you declared a
fatoi on sugar? Yes, that'swhy I'm saying this is fatoi? What
have you learned about fatua this week? That you I assume that in we're
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going to talk in the Islamic world, which is where that where it comes
from. That was if someone saidsomething that was deemed inappropriate. Your hasco
scoo over away from me. No, our chairs were making a squeaking sound.
We're getting married. There we go, Thank you, missus. Kristen
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and I have the same night aroundall feel confident and dominant. So yeah
I doe yep, but yeah,equating I feel to have your story interrupted
fourteen times. I'm not good.Yeah, it's not fun. I appreciate
it, and I would like youto stuff yes, and what else would
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you like? Sure? But Iassumed based off of history that when someone
has a fog put on it,it's like a death threats. Yeah,
that's not the definition of a fox, but it's like a formal interpretation.
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Yeah, some people take pretty seriously. Yeah, So anyways, I wasn't
prepared to talk about other than thatI have a fata on sugar, yeah,
which I fat on sugar, whichI like. Yeah, I think
so we need to know Kristen Danleyand I are going to try to get
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abs by Christmas of twenty twenty five. Does you think that Isaac should be
in on our pack to have absby Christmas of twenty twenty You know,
I'm just I'm just asking why therelationship he's going to take this one us
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too? I want distance from thatout. No, I have no problem.
The only problem I have with workingout with you guys at the same
distance. Yeah. Uh, welive relatively close. We you know that's
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true. How far away is this, gentle fur, It's kind of in
between. Where then that's perfect,all right. I don't think it's realistic
that you will correct. Do youthink it's realistic that he's gonna work out
with us? Or you don't thinkit's realistic for him to get apps?
One therefore two? Oh, it'schallenge. I just don't glove off and
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I slapped you on the sw Yeah, and I don't have good apps and
so it hurt. Yeah, getslapped in your core just like completely loosened
up, only with my glove.Do you just want apps or would you
prefer another enhancement. I'm gonna takethat the way the inventor um I would.
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I would probably want to be tonedmore than muscle. It does that
make sense? I think it doesthe same thing well, because to requires
muscle. You don't want to be. I don't want bulls, you know
I want bull That's why I want. I want slender be my enhancement.
I want to be a bean pole. You want to be but that?
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But it does tone mean you wantMichael Phelps at least some abs? Yeah,
Michael wants this. I want thorbut you abs and still be a
bean pole. Bean pole abs beanpole. People see me and be like
that. I want to be.I don't want I want broth work.
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I want for only the beginning ofan affinity war or yeah, where you
look at it, you like,you know what, that's not fat,
that's a power belly, easy sugar. Yeah. Yeah, edone's playing a
lot of video names with the coredrinking and drinking beer and even white Flower.
We've just lost our guests. Weasked out. We asked Isaac,
prior to you guys coming on theshow, what's the thing you have the
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least interest in talking about? Andhe says Batman. I was like,
maybe that's our topic for today andsuperheroes, and we we got there because
we can't avoid him. Huh.So, so you you don't want muscles?
Yeah, I mean, you know, muscle is that enough to be
toned? You don't want to bebulky? Right right? I don't.
I don't look at people with giantmuscles and go I wish I were gonna
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have that. I'm more to lookat ustener. Yeah. Yeah, I'll
see like a very slender guy joggingby me and it looks like she's so
effortlessly jogging, and I go,that's the type of body that I would
want, Like answer, Miller.If you want to flash, you want
to be able to be alting fromthat guy. I don't want to get
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from from the Yeah, I don'twant anything from them. Um yeah,
similar to that. Yeah, sowhat body time would you want want?
Arnold Schwarzenegger. One of my favorite, one of my favorite Arnold quotes of
all time is somebody came up tohim and they were like, I would
never want to look like you.If he goes good, you know,
who will? I do think thatthere's something to that, though, like
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I don't want the brock Lesner bodytype. There is so like there was
thirty years of brock Lesner in particularwith him because he was the original tag
team partner for a friend of artsthat we worked within ministry and get him
wrong waterman who's a UFC Pride fightingchamp of guys, a absolute monster.
But brock Lesner and his brothers wouldgo to the barn that they lived at
in Minnesota every morning and before theystarted their charge one of his dark outside,
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they would have pull up competitions.So you got like years of pull
up competitions before you ever get toostraight thing and yeah, yeah, before
he ever chewed a stare. Yeah, so I think with with like a
body type like brock Lessner. Iunderstand that's kind of what we put up
as like the muscly build. ButI also think that for I don't know,
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it's not realistic. Yeah, it'sunrealistic for like such a large percentage
of you know what, I thoughtwas really interesting because I'm a Vikings fan.
Yes, um that I remember jokeearlier. I remember, I remember
years ago brock Lessner tried out forthe Vikings and he though, he's just
he's this gigantic guy. She doesn'tknow, but he's I barely know.
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Yeah, she's got that sword andskull tech right on her arm. He
tried out for the Vikings and hecouldn't make the team even Yeah, he
was the first one cut that here. Yep. Why too slow? Too
slow? Yeah yeah, yeah,yeah, I doesn't have a nose for
the ball tucking ball, he realball? Do you miss Mikes? Um?
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I do? I like Mikes?Then I like Mikesamber two. Yeah.
It was a former Cowboys defensive coordinator. Yeah, that's right. When
he was with our team. Hewas so Cowboys as a football for worth
do the cattle drive to? Yeah? There are there are are talking demended
drive cattle. The difference between thefootball team and the demended drive cattle and
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fort Worth experience large amounts of success, which really delineates them from the professional
sports team to Rlington to experience isno success in my wife's lifetime, I
bet you. I yeah right,The Cowboys have sucked my and my wife's
entire life. I was like,well, if you'd have been born two
years earlier, I think, whohas a Super Bowl Vikings Boys story?
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Yes? About my football story?You've heard it, don't if you guys
have, I said one year,two years ago on the Super Bowl.
Actually think I was flying in forthat Valentine show that I wash. You're
well your church? Yea. Soit was a Super Bowl Sunday. I
was flying and I sat next toa former Denver Broncos I think, I
want to say linebacker McKenzie Tillman washis name. You can look him up,
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but it was a boy named Mackenzie. Yeahs. So he was watching
the Super Bowl and the his TVcutout and he's a he's a big dude,
and so I was like, Idon't like he was visibly distressed.
So I was like it's okay.He's like, no, you didn't understand.
He goes, my friends are playingon that team, and I was
like, oh, clearly he wantsto talk about this. And you start
in a sentence with like, myfriends are on that team? You want
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that's a leading question? So Iwas like, did you play? And
he had his Super Bowl rings onand yeah. So he talked and watched
the Super Bowl together, and theexperience was completely wasted on me because I
don't follow football at all, andhe was talking loud, and so everybody,
all the seats around were like leaningin and yeah, I got to
talk to him, and then hewon the Super Bowl with the Denver broncol
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I think, so, yeah,when I look at McKenzie Tillman, it
says McKenzie Tillman twenty twenty two,twenty twenty one women's basketball, that is
not the right to Kenzie Tillman.You don't think so. You don't think
she's a senior guard and talking aboutto do I think that is that's not
toxic. So, hey, didyou guys hear about how Putin got a
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Super Bowl ring? Excuse me,no, please? So Rob believe it
was from Robert Kraft. They werein Russia and Putin said, I'll give
me, give me that ring onto see her? Would you look on
and from the Super Bowl ring?Wait? What do you look at?
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McKenzie Tillman. That she's one ofthe first images that pops up him on
an airplane. Look at that,you're mel Brooks. McKenzie Tillman. Adjacent
thousand and four was when he plumedso defensive tackle. Did he know that
he met? How does that comeon? But anyways, Putin just took
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the Super Bowl ring. They didn'tget it back, so now he has
a Super bowling. I wouldn't askyou just took Robert Craft Super Bowl rang
up? And what do you want? It was Robert Crafted in Russia partying.
He was trying to escape the massagetherapist litigation he was sister alleged for.
But what do you do wayfully forlunch? But yeah, yeah,
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you guys are going to lunch withsome of spire. Okay, so I
have a question here is this like, alright, I've already married him,
but you got to beat my friendskind of lunch? Or does this I
know I want to hang out withthese people kind of lunch? Want to
out. Yeah with them, peoplehave already hung out with him by the
time that this gets I am cut. What do you really think You don't
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want to drive forty five minutes tome these jokers. It's like when I
go and visit my in laws,who don't listen to this podcast. Any
of that is my wife. Soyeah, well we're gonna go. We're
gonna be an hour in the car. My wife has this yo, I'm
gone away with some real sneakers.Yeah, but you did your wife have
travel rules Isaac Whitty and and DanGibson, I don't know. My wife
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has travel rules that like, ifwe're going, we need to stay twice
as long out of place as ittakes us to get there. Right,
So, if we're gonna go visither parents, who are an hour away,
we've got an hour there in anhour back. We need a four
hour visit in order to go.I don't like being confined by any rules.
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But that's not a terrible, Yeah, it's it's not terrible. Also
for you not to want to beconfined by any rules. Your she wife
has a lot of rules that youare whatever name one, Dan, come
home, get off the phone withLucas, No that I'm on the I'm
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already home, and I'm already onthe phone, and then you're off the
phone with me because you're following therules. I'd like to go off the
phone. Sure at this point,had you've been married to Gene Wilder?
Have you been? What did hesay? He's had a love affair with
Gene Wilder for fifteen years? Now, now you just medience your idea,
I mean, truth be told.That's had a love affair with Gene Walder
for a lot. Yeah. Hismovies are fantastic. You're a real world
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kid. Yeah. Yeah, anda myriad of others, all of it.
Remember what it was with him andRichard p Aster fat crazy? Yeah?
Yeah, they did like three movies, three or four movies together.
They were they were geniuses. Theyhave too much? All right, Well,
wadis have to go to lunch.We should be lunch. Make sure
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that you check out the not soGlamorous Ministry podcasts which will be coming out
on a podcasting append you two fouryears. Yeah, they're just learning.
They interviewed me as four years talkfor an hour. Yeah, so's yeah,
not surprised. Tell our audious Twitteris that they can find if they
follow more. And you wonder whycomedy dot com. Yeah, and you
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can find all our social media fromthere. Yeah, yeah, we do
comedy dot com all right. Checkout all that stuff in the show notes.
You guys, stay hard, tokeep jamming, and we'll see you