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August 3, 2023 • 72 mins
The Reverend and the Reprobate sit down with incredibly talented voice actor Dave Trosko. Trosko, who voices My Hero Academia's Present Mic and has nearly 200 other credits to his name, talks about the challenges of English overdubs, his favorite anime he's ever worked on, and whether or not you it's Present Mic or Pre-sent Mic.

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Hi, guys. Ricky Popeier fromthe Christian nerds Unite podcast. On the
show, we dive deep into ournerdy fandoms and look at them through the
lens of our faith by chatting withChristian content creators and experts who love comics,
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Hosts of Forestuneist Kyle Man from JWarner Wallace Here Davis, this is to
day basiness. To Kerry Pamroli,this is Mike Wider, this is even
the Cold, This is Laham Wargan, Mistim Parker, the Fish, And
this is why you should never,ever, never, never never. How

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I got suckered in. I'm soembarrassed about you. You're wasting your time.
You got better things to do.Never listen Both Darling Yummy and the
ramper By go on today's Sweet cleanAir Waves Whip. Let's go. She
is the uh the right, that'sright, that terrible. I don't think

(01:07):
she shing should be a thing.No, I don't think it is anymore.
Factly, well, things died prettyquick. Yeah, well, praise,
but I will I will be remindingmy son's generation of h while while
you're working on while you're working ongathering Riz. We've got with us.
No, no, no no,I've got Risen with us today. Uh.

(01:27):
In fact, I was risen upmy home girl at home the other
day. He is Risen. Itcan't that's that voice? Did you hear?
Is Dave Roscoe. He is thevoice of your child's childhood because he's
in He's in every anime ever.Hold on, it was right there?
What he has? Risen? Yeah, it was right there. How did

(01:51):
we not we this part? Ifwe avoided it intentionally? Wow? I
did not even notice it. Jesusriz man Yeah yeah, which is short
Riz? Yeah, and then Rizand it's currently Riz forever? Shall more
be Risen risen ri z z Iend? Well the Riz master, Dave

(02:13):
Troscoe? Is this here? Doyou want that terrible from? This is
really bad of giving Jesus riz?Is it really bad? Or is it
funny? So? Riz is likewhat is riz? I don't even know
what riz? Okay? Yeah,so it's short for charisma, but it's
only us it's the brand new thing. Yeah, it's only used like a

(02:34):
guy that like has game. It'sshort for charisma. Yeah, so you
couldn't be like I am a pastor. I am a RIZ master Christian pastor.
I mean maybe like I might havebeen whenever I was single. I
would say, it's definitely not somethingthat I would I would say, you
have put on the resume now thatI'm I'm married. Pastor. Take out
the words not synonymous with charisma.It's it is, That's what I say,

(02:59):
say offshoot up charisma. Yes,it's it's a specific type of charisma
that means you get dates. Yeahthat is true. But you have a
wife, don't you rise her up? I rise to occasion. I did
find out the rise is a verb. Z. I occasionally rise to.
I not as much as I usedto be though. Yeah, I'm not
cool anymore either. No kids killedthe RIZ. Yeah yeah, so dave

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you you my my my son isgoing to hate it, oh for sure,
because it's a really bust in conversation. The people that watch my shows
are going to hate this conversation too. What is it because of Is it
because of what we have scheduled toget into or I think part of it,
but yeah, I mean that andjust uh, probably they don't.

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Okay, so what we thought about, like going through your IMDb page,
but there's like two hundred different showsthat you're credited with. I think the
big one, at least for forme as far as like my consciousness of
animal and that of my my heroof thirteen year old brother in law is

(04:06):
uh is my hero Academia. Yeah, that is the big one where where
you play present Mike or present Mike. So that's weird. Yeah, prison
Mike. Everybody calls it present Mike, which yeah, then does get into
the prison Mike, right, seenthe office episode Prison Mike. Um,

(04:30):
so yeah. And then there's beena bunch of like people that don't understand
President Mike and oh it's President Mike. No, it's not President. I
have seen President Mike. Um,there's that that was a red hair of
of anime folks that are like,oh, it's presentation Michael. WHOA.
Yeah, that's uh, that's onefor the grandmother. And I guess for

(04:53):
all the moms that watch anime thatare really like upset with the things your
character does, they're like, excuseme, presentation Michael. Presentation Michael,
get in here right now. Yeah. But then I said, well,
Mike is usually abbreviated or shortened toM I K E. Right, and
this is M I C and everythingit's AM So I don't think it's Michael.

(05:18):
If it's presentation Michael, it's probablyMichael Angelophon or Michelle. I mean
it's an M I C. Mic. Well, what do you think it
is? I think it's we callit present Mike Michelle. But I think
also because the problem with this isit's in another language that we're translating,

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right, so we don't really knowthat. Am I getting that right?
So they'll say, and we listento a lot of the Japanese into finding
out how a name is supposed tosound right or how it's pronounced. Sometimes
they roll the R, sometimes theydon't roll the R, sometimes they tap
the R. There's there's there's thesedifferent things. So present Mike. I

(05:59):
think the reason we call them presentMike and not present Mike is because the
original Japanese tracks all sound like presented, which sounds more like you know,
present rather than present um. Andyou know, we had that issue.
I recorded. I directed a showcalled All Out, which is a rugby

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anime. Great show, wholesome show, awesome. Um, it's about of
course it is. It's about rugby. It's about rugby, and it's about
kids playing rugby. It's a greatIt's the pretty much one of the only
wholesome shows I ever got direct becauseonce they found out I was a Christian,
I started getting all the like,here's the lesbian sex demons that live
in hell things. It was kindof fun. I got the time about

(06:44):
cartoons. Cartoons Yeah, yeah,yeah, cartoons. Yeah yeah. The
anime I believe they get mad ifyou call them cartoons. Okay, yeah,
I know for the record, okay, both of us. But I'll
just speak from myself at the moment. Am not cool? I am am
not cool neither definitely in terms ofcartoons versus anime versus whatever. To me,

(07:09):
I'm a old dad, they're allcartoons. You know. We go
to these anime conventions and these kids, um, they come up with all
these terms like, oh, that'scannon. Yeah, what's what does that
mean? Canon? Can you shootsomething out? Oh? No, Canon
means that it's like officially part ofcanonical thing. Yeah it is, yes,

(07:30):
yeah, cannon or canonical Yeah,cannon iacal. I like that though,
I do like that, and canonuh, canonical became a very big
issue for um Tina Belcher and Bob'sBurgers Bers. Anyways, to go back
to the rugby story, we directedthis whole show and um, we're looking

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at rugby positions, which I didn'tknow anything. Yeah for surely, um,
and they're like wing and hook anda couple of other things. Puncher,
I'm sure there's a puncher. Sobut in in Japanese we were listening
and goes, oh wingo, yeah, you know hook and you're like,

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oh, winger hooker, Okay,those way different. Yeah, and then
we so we recorded with like wingerand hooker, which was really funny during
a couple of thems, as youcould probably imagine the best hooker in this
league, all right, I probablyshouldn't be too proud and I don't want
to scale. And it wasn't untilit was like cut print, sent out,

(08:41):
put on DVD and blasted out thatThey're like, oh, we made
a little mistake, and I thinkwe need to go back and change all
the wingers and hookers to wings andhooks. Yeah, so is there not
a person? Is there not atranslator? That's there to say, hey,
this is what they're talking about.There are but it's uh, there's
no roll, different layers of there's, there's. Um, the property comes

(09:03):
in, they get translated, yeah, and then the translation goes to the
writer and the writer then um,you know it looks at the mouth flaps
of the characters. They take thetransition because we don't reanimate anything, right,
um, and it's all like Frankenstein. Yeah no, Yeah, I'm

(09:26):
like, that's a good one man, thank you, well, thank you.
I'll coming all day with the dadjokes. Um. But yeah they
they Yeah, that totally derailed me. I was talking about talking about the
mouth flaps. Look at the mouthflaps. So that actually is my specialty

(09:46):
on the shows. My whole jobis to derail that. We were going
to go for a tight hour fifteen. It may be a messy two and
a half. Yeah, it couldbe if I do my job. Good
luck worship practice, sorry, guys. Mouth flaps. So, mouth flaps
are basically the movements of the character'smouth. Sure, we don't reanimate,
so basically they have to take theJapanese and stuff it into the mouth,

(10:07):
which is a tradition as old ascinema frankly. Yeah, like I remember
Godzilla, I go rent one fromBlockbuster, which kids have no idea what
I'm talking about. Yeah, Iget a Godzilla home. I'd pop in
the VCR. Again, no ideawhat I'm talking about. Yeah, And
then that was that was always theirmouths running out here. Oh oh he's
coming, and it doesn't match upat all. Well, and that wasn't

(10:28):
the fist that that movie with SteveOdenkirk so great, such a great movie,
but they you know, they playedthat part up where it's like no
stop and this mouth just keeps onmoving whatever. And then the way Wayne's
World did it too. Yeah,maker of Thumb Wars, which is vastly
underrated, Thumb frank and Thumb Allthe Thumb. That was so many Thumb

(10:50):
movies. So my dad bought methat I hate them all. Oh I
love them, you can't. Yeah, I think the next Thumb movie that's
made that's funny will be the first. No, dude, they're so good.
Well, um, well that's that. But we enjoyed them a lot

(11:11):
in college. Yeah, however,we had accompaniments with those movies. They
had some helped us enjoy some cargoand some wonderful yeah. Likely likely they're
eating snails in college. It's really, what do you what do you guys
want to have tonight? Do youwant to pizza nod like some French snails?

(11:33):
If I won't say that, wegot to real, but I don't
even think we even got on.So back back to the mouth flaps,
h. So you got a matchup. The writer's job is to basically
take the translation to match it upwith the mouth flaps of yeah and the
animation and so there's all these differentlevels, and then the director has to
take it and we give it tothe actor and they've never seen it before.

(11:54):
Most of the time they don't getthe scripts ahead of time, and
we go straight on the it's alwaysan individual actor, one actor in the
booth and a director and a technicianand they go and um, you know,
sometimes the words just don't fit,so we have to rewrite the line
on the spot right um, orfigure out how it is. Or sometimes

(12:16):
the actors just I speak really fastas an actor, so a lot of
times they have to put extra wordsin so that I can you know,
match the beats of what's going on. Um. But with this this character
in particular. That's kind of histhings. Like he's very high energy.
Oh yeah, and he's the besthooker. He's the Nope, this is
not where we're off the hooker's danwhere you know what we're talking about,

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Like, um present Mike, he'slike the DJ of the school. He's
very high energy, kind of runsum like MC for a lot of their
their things and and his what isit? The quirks are their superpowers,
so he gets to announce all thequirks. Yeah, and he's sort of
also like a black Bolt type characterfor Marvel fans, and like his voice
is his superpower. Yes, yeah, yeah, he's got the like supersonic

(13:01):
thing and blow up buildings with hisvoice. That's his big yell. So
that the original actor that was castwas his name Sonny Straight, and he
um, he's actually a dent awesomename it is. So he actually is
the guy that did the voice forthe tsunami guy in the Rocketship. I
can't remember what his name was,but he's done. I mean, my

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first audition ever, like when Iwas seventeen years old, was with Sonny
Straight as a director. So youstarted voice acting when you were seventeen Yeah,
yeah, how did you? Yeah, yeah, how did that happen?
Yeah? That was because like whatwe're we're eighty five models and I'm
thinking you're you're kind of in thesix. Okay, yeah, there we
go. So where did we gowrong that you went right? Uh?

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We really didn't. I mean,you're fine. I mean I think everybody's
got their own Fine, we don't. We're not fine. I'm starting and
weird. We still haven't found ourthing, and I've stopped eating sugar.
But I had a couple yesterday.I had a couple, a couple of
sugars because yeah, I mean,yeah, so so it's seventeen, you

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know, when weird schlepping our guitarsand stuff down to deep elm, you're
looking at voice acting? What madeyou want to do that? It?
I mean I started acting, andthat's what I wanted to do, and
I had I I was pretty good. Okay, I mean obviously you can't
get gigs if you were pretty good. Were you a theater geek? You
know, I was a theater Yeah, I was a theater theater guy.

(14:26):
That's good. Yeah, though Ithink it was the coolest guy. I
think I missed down out the stuff. Now we Uh. I started in
Washington State and I got really involvedin a Christian youth theater program there when
I was kind of in my thirteenfourteen fifteen range. And then we moved
to Texas during that time, andit was kind of my way to fit

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into high school, and I gotinvolved in the theater there, um,
and they were really impressed by me. And I didn't realize it, but
I got a real big head,real really quick, and I I thought,
well, this is what I'm gonnado. I'm gonna be an actor,
and yeah, I had the opportunity. My mom was like my agent,

(15:09):
yeah, and my manager and thegood old mama she was. She
was looking up auditions all the timefor me, and I didn't do very
many outside of school because the schoolhigh school theater was you know, as
most people know, it's all encompassingpretty much if you get involved in a
production there. Um. This wasan opportunity to go do a voiceover for

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a unknown company at the time.Funimation was kind of like low Man on
the Totem Pole. They had Dragonball Z, which everybody kind of knew
that, but that was about it. Yeah. We had we had Tiffany
Volmer who was the voice of Balmafor for dragon Ball She was the original
voice of Balma for Dragon Ball Z. And she was kind of talking about

(15:56):
some of the same stuff that youwere about the translation, and all of
them culminates in Dent'. She wasin Dallas. There's not a story.
Her story was, if I remembercorrectly, that she was going through someone's
window in Denton. Oh yeah,maybe, so there's probably, yeah,
there's some probably, so there's atie in Dent' with anime. It sounds

(16:19):
like step straight a is the tiein. It could be. Yeah,
So she was talking about, youknow, overcoming some of the same things
because with dragon Ball Z in particular, it was one of the first times
that somebody had really tried to dothat and to make this transition, especially
with something that wasn't for kids,whereas like you saw with Pokemon, but

(16:40):
that is that's made for children whoare way more, Yeah, who are
way more I think accepting of ofnew ideas and things like that. But
Dragon Ball Z was really for likeadolescents and for for early twenties. But
even then, so this is backin twenty well, two thousand and four,
twenty for in the early aut Yeah, the early aunts. So in

(17:02):
the in the Year of Our Lord. Yeah, it was when it was
still no I mean, nobody watchedNone of my friends watched that stuff.
So when people were like, oh, you do voices for cartoons, and
I was like, yeah, yeah, I don't know any of the ones
that I do. Yeah, getaround excuse us. Well, well,
as a seventeen year old, Iwas like, yeah, I do voices
for cartoons because that's what people knew. I wasn't gonna say, like,

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I don't even think people people backthen, I think still called a japanimation.
Sure, remember for sure, Idon't think they called it anime yet.
Those are all the boomers whatever boomersYeah, I don't know. They
were like xers. Yeah, butthere were boom There were segments like late
nine on Cartoon Network that were itwas the the Japan Amation Hour and and

(17:47):
things like that. They were thatwas the I think the two Nami things.
Yeah, at least that's where itstarted. But it was so I
would tell people that I'm, youknow, doing voices for shows. And
granted, like the first two yearsof me doing voices, I was like
boy in blue shirt in Full MetalAlchemist or you know, like some rando
guy falling off of a train anda couple of couple of small boy in

(18:10):
blue shirt out there. Wow,that's really great, go ahead, I
missed that one. I went forthe guy falling off the train, but
clearly it took about two years toget decent at it. But then,
But there's also so much that isdifferent now because back then, one it

(18:34):
started with real to real recording.Then two, you know, we would
get the whole property in at thattime, so you had like twenty four
episodes to record and they be like, oh, we need you for eight
hours, and you're gonna record withthis character for the entire season of this
show. Now there's the simul dubthing where we're literally getting properties in from
Japan the next day that they air, we get the stuff and within a

(18:59):
week we've got the next episode up, recorded, done and going wow.
So where as it used to belike if if President Mike was a character
back in the early two thousands ofthe show, I would have maybe made
amount of money bring it because they'dbe like, oh, we need you

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for four hours at thirty five dollarsan hour, and I'm like, okay,
cool, sweet, yeah yeah.But now I go in and it's
a fifteen minute session for two linesof President Mike because he's announcing two new
characters, and I got a twohour minimum and a higher rate and everything
else. So every single week youget we get paid way more than we

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used it, which is great surefor us, I guess, But yeah,
they were, and it's not likethey aren't making money off this.
Whoever that they is, you know, and whether it's Fundimation or or the
streaming services or whoever it is now, right, Well, that was the
rumor why Sony bought Fundimation in thefirst place, because they bought Aimation and
then they merged Country role was becauseanime was the only fan base that had

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a growing DVD sales market because mostof the anime fans were collectors and they
actually buying the physical DVDs, whereevery other DVD was just you know,
a production company which was going down. It's it's weird that this seems to
exist sort of only in places ofof nerddom, right, because like the

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other big area where you're seeing thisis that people are reluctant to go to
digital comics because the secondhand comic marketwith the collectors and people like that is
still really huge. And so you'vegot you know, Marvel and IDW and
DC that are still printing stuff whennewspapers are now primarily online, Like you

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don't see those being tossed around everyday, and like almost every other source
of print media as out of there. But in these little pockets of nerd
them, they're like, no,we still need the physical thing. I
still want the game. It's strange, there's well, there's that's count cultural
nance to that, I think.I mean, it's it's I'm in the
wine industry too, and there's aromance behind how to quaff a perfect you

(21:07):
know, glass of wine, orhow to decant and all these other so
it's like, if you care aboutsomething that quaff a perfect glass of we'll
go into that later. Okay.I have tried blending a bottle of wine
to activate the tannins. I don'tknow if that activates the well there we
go, there we go. Alsobroke my blender, so it didn't wait

(21:30):
wait wait wait wait wait wait blendingand a blender blending like I'm gonna mix
that was a ninja chef. Yeah, well that um and it that'll do
something to the wine for sure,it did. Was it broke my picture
and I had to buy another one? How did you break your picture with
the wine because I overate it?No, I just I cranked it to

(21:52):
eleven and there was just a littlebit of liquid in and I think it
just I think it's been too fastand it broke it. It went one
louder and died. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, there's like that romance
holding a comic book in your handsand ordering it, and just there's also
that nostalgic feel. I'm sure formost of them too. But um,
I mean I'm the same way withscripts. A lot of times scripts get

(22:15):
sent to me and it's on aphone. I'm like, can I just
print this out so I can hold? What about when you're reading? If
you read a book, what doyou prefer book? Absolutely? I need
to feel the I need to feelhow far I've gone. Is it a
hard hard back? If possible?It depends. It depends on the story.
I think I prefer a hard back. Actually, I don't know.
I don't know what I don't haveNo, Okay, it's fantastic, you

(22:40):
might dig it, But I justfinished Stop There. The The Science of
Sound by Chuck pollanic I think that'sthe I think that's the right. The
Invention of Sound by Chuck Polanicau PaigeBurner, Man, is he a sound
engineer? A. No, it'sa story. It's it's pretty dark.
It's a story about a folly artistlike fully Chick who Wilhelm scream. Well,

(23:03):
it's see if I can put thisin a nutshell real because it's very
convoluted. But she's basically trying torecord the perfect scream and by doing that,
she's putting you know, she's basicallymurdering people. Oh yeah, right,
and as you do. And thisguy is also at the same time
looking for his daughter who's been missingfor several years, um who was abducted

(23:25):
and you know passways cross she wason take ten. Yeah. No,
that's that's how he he He hearsa movie and he hears his daughter's scream,
and he's like, who recorded thisscream? And he's trying to go
find this this this woman, andit's the sound engineer. Then it's it's
the fully artist. Yeah. Wow. So it's a great, great book.

(23:45):
Page burn two hundred twenty five pages, really fast, easy read.
But man, it's a good book. The Sound of silence. No,
the invention of sound, the inventionof sounds, So where were the invention
of sound? Now we you're you'retalking about the just having the things in

(24:06):
your hand, like the physical copiesof stuff really has generated this sort of
extra pocket within sort of the nerdcommunity. Do you think that it has
something to do with, like froman artists perspective, right, that there
is something romanticized about like having thephysical copy of it, having the script,
because I like, if I reada digital book, I will read

(24:27):
the book much faster, but Idon't enjoy it as much as flipping the
page and turning it over. Andthere's something about that that like is relaxing
at that, you know, thebinge part of it. Yea. For
DVDs, obviously you can just putthe dv in. There's no you know,
ads or anything popping up, andsure it's very simple. Plus you

(24:48):
get all the content too, that'sanother big thing. So, um,
we would do a lot of youknow, talkbacks, and we do a
lot of you know rewatching the showcommentary, Yeah, yeah, commentary on
episodes and things like that. Thatwould add to add to the value of
having the DVD. But the thingthat I think the most is you can

(25:10):
have a DVD signed, you can'thave your Funimation subscription signed. That's true.
So yeah, because that's the majorityof the things that people will bring.
Now it's the pops, right,you can't say which you do have
a pop after? Can you believeit? In nineteen years of doing voices
for you and you finally got tohave one pop? And I have heard

(25:32):
through the grapevine that it was quitethe controversial gift at the White Elephant.
Oh, you must have talking spokesalmost they broke up our small group.
But I don't know who's a name. We have infiltrated your small group?
No, we've so the Reverend rep. We do extensive research, I mean
infiltrate as men small groups as possible. Yeah, we're like, we're like,

(25:55):
what's the guy's named narwad nor wordor whatever his name? This you
don't talking about? Are you talkingabout? Yeah? So he's this he's
this Canadian interviewer who like to goto interview rapper. He'll just like say
something and they're like, wait,how you know about that? But yeah
that was my third grade teacher.Why do you know that? No,
I'm not And the just the limiton the gift was ten dollars ten or

(26:19):
fifteen bucks. It was my ideato do the the gift give right.
It was like, what do youcall Yankee swap or whatever Chinese Christmas?
White elephant, twine elephants? Yeahsorry, uh yeah they Yankee swap Chinese
Christmas? Yeah sorry sorry. Yeah, I'm not going to attack that right

(26:45):
now because you Chinese Christmas is Iguess it's a take on communism? Is
that because you you can take thegift you need. I don't even know.
Let's let's put that. We're notgoing to analyze that too much,
all that and put it back inthe box. Yeah, seal it up,
definitely, that's with us tape.The whole idea behind the white elephant

(27:06):
Christmas is also not a real flatteringthing because it was like, from what
I understand in India, where theelephant is thought of as sacred, right,
what if you were king of aprovince and you really wanted to like
stick it to another king, youwould send them an albino elephant as a

(27:29):
gift because they can't well no,no, they can't kill it. They're
terrible to take care of. It'salways got to be clean so that the
people can come and worship it,and so like they would end up spending
like tons of money in order totry to keep these albino elephants clean.
And so it was it was agift that you would kind of give one
of your enemies in order to try. Yeah, yeah, it's exactly exactly,

(27:56):
like, yeah, either way,it's pretty here's the boat. That's
pretty. Love you man. Youcan have the boat. You just gotta
keep the insurance and maintenance. Keepthe insurance, maintenance, make sure you
have like a four hundred fifty dollarsslip at the marina. Yeah, you're
gonna need to find that out gases, you know, Yeah, exactly,

(28:17):
and you have to buy it fromthe marina. Ye be out there,
maybe maybe we'll Uh well, Iwould just fish from the dock and the
boat. I wouldn't even take theboat out. I would just I wouldn't
even bother taking the cover off ofit. I just sit on the back
and fish there. So, uhguess, yeah, I thought, well,
how appropriate. This doesn't cost meany money? Right, it's like

(28:38):
a ten dollars GIF, right,but as soon as you sign it,
it becomes eleven dollars. Well,actually, I wouldn't be surprised that way.
Yeah, no doubt. That's veryinsulting, but I guess yeah,
I signed it and then I youknow, because it was funny and yeah,
so Micah was there, Michael wasthere, and then a couple other

(29:00):
folks and when that one got opened, everyone started going for it. And
I'm like, this is we're talkingto bobble head here. Folks like and
y'all know me, like you couldgo, you guys can go buy one
tomorrow and y'all are my friends.Yeah, and I'll sign it for you.
It's fine. Oh man, therewas Oh for sure, I would

(29:22):
uh, I would get into thattoo. I like, no, there's
a prize to be had here.Yeah, we would probably go toe to
toe on that. Well, Iwould just make sure that I had the
second steal, so I got locked. Yeah, I think we did three
steals and so whoa and I wouldn'tknow, we didn't know we did.
It was too because Michael opened itup because he's like, I'll just pick
up what Dave picked up, becauseI think I got his gift. Um,

(29:45):
I ended up with Black Santa wasthe iPod video I got. I
wish, I love, I loveum. The year prior, uh Micah's
wife gifted two of these porcelain babydolls with teeth and roller skates. Yeah

(30:07):
no, dressed in Christmas attire.And I wanted them and I got them.
I stole them from a pregnant lady, right, And now every year
I'm I'm kind of bent on gettingthe creepy gift. The creepy so I
got it was like this half stuffed, gross looking Christmas cat and a black

(30:33):
Santa Claus from the Dollars store.That's beautiful. And I think it was
that there was another Christmas squirrel.Do you think that, like people are
now purchasing these for your small group, um white Elephant to be like,
which one of these do you thinkDave is going to try to steal?
No fact that the guy that broughtthe black Santa and squirrel and Christmas cat

(30:53):
had had you and like the spacehamsters from the Quiznos Come Marshals, Yeah
Christmas and like those. That's kindof what I feel like. You've just
got a shelf of these, likein your office? What is the Christmas
cat? I've seem to understand.I don't know. I mean it's a
it's a it's a cat. It'sa black cat, believe with a slie

(31:18):
tweed, a tweed looking cat shapedlike a cat with no eyes. That's
not a Christmas cat. And butno, it has holly on its neck.
It sounds like a yea with Christmaseve. Yeah, that's a tweed
cat with it does come to lifein the middle of the night and child,
Yeah, the Christmas cat it is. That's it's a cat that comes

(31:41):
to life. That's a that's ainanimate objects that come to life or a
theme in our show. We wegifted a friend of ours. Um,
we gave her you did you everread those Goosebump books when you were growing
up? Okay, so you rememberSlappy? Yeah? Yeah, So her,
her five year old was obsessed withThey watch the Goosebulp movie Slappy comes

(32:02):
to Life. He's like, Iwant an evil ventriloquis dummy that comes to
life, and she's like, absolutelynot. So uncle's the Reverend and the
Reprobate sent her this ventriloquism and we'relike, you can give it to your
kid or you can't. She hatedit, so she gives it to her
son. He ends up having togo to the hospital and and yeah,
now he had he ends up heends up getting pretty sick, and so

(32:25):
he's got to go to the hospital. While they're at the hospital, he
only wants to bring Slappy the ventriloquistpuppet. So that's his little like his
lovey that he's got in the hospitalwith him. When they come home,
she's like rubbing his back, andhe goes, can you make Slappy rub
my back? And so she's likehaving to take the puppet hand and like
rub his back and talk to him. Well, a couple of weeks ago

(32:47):
off a little bit. Yeah,So a couple of weeks ago, he
can't sleep and so he goes toget dad because he's now worried because Slappy's
eyes glow in the dark that Slampy'sgoing to come to life, and which
we knew we told her, Yeah, we knew would eventually happened, that
that this was what was going tohappen the way, so it did such
a good job. The doll glowsin the dark. Yeah, so she

(33:10):
she doesn't know that any of thishas happened. Yeah. Um, she
gets up to in the morning,she's going to the bathroom, opens the
bathroom door, and her husband hadjust thrown the puppet in the bathroom to
get it away, and so itis lying face down on the floor,
and apparently she opens the door tothat as soon as she wakes up and

(33:30):
just screams bloody murder. So yeah, that's just be careful with your Christmas
cat because it could come to lifeand haunt you in different ways as it
has Megan. So you, uh, you are recording the voice for present
Mike. You've been going to tocons, You've getting to sign you get

(33:52):
those kinds of don't go to many, and we're gonna touch on that.
So this is kiss is White yet, So how come you're not on the
con circuit anymore? I don't know. Uh, I really don't know,
honestly, because there was a coupleof cons that I was going to after
I got canceled and then um andI got canceled on Twitter, which I
don't know. How did you getcanceled? Yeah you can, you can.

(34:15):
This is a wild story anymore.The problem with the googling of the
canceling as you get one side ofthe story, and so it's a long
story, but I'll try to shortenit because because it basically starts with me
experiencing stardom for the first time everbecause of this character present Mike, I've

(34:36):
been doing anime for a long timeand nobody knew who the heck I was.
There's You've been on some huge animalsprior to this, right, there
was Italia that one was kind ofknown. Um. There was high School
Rumble. There was saraph of theEnd, which I played pretty much one
of the leads in um, andthere's now there's also Black Clover, which
just ended its run. And themovie just came out on on Netflix.

(35:00):
Uh yeah, Netflix, Yeah,and um um and I can say that,
thank goodness, there's no nda anymoreon that because it's out. But
um yeah, nobody there was themy hero stuff is just huge and it's
national, unbelievable, it's international,It's it's big so um somebody said that
it was like the third biggest show, just like under Simpsons and and SpongeBob.

(35:22):
Yeah, in animation in nation.In fact, the sixth season finale,
I was looking this up earlier,I was watched by over two million
viewers and television and then the sixseasons fifth episode garnered three million viewers just
on one episode on the day,I got a lot of press, right,
oh for sure. And my Rizwas not on game for that because

(35:45):
I was used to just be invictory. I did the day, yeah,
Riz, yeah, um cool,Yeah, I'll think of all the
reverences. We're all like, um, so, yeah, I didn't.
I didn't know. I've I nevercared about how I presented myself out to

(36:09):
folks. And I'm an unspoken conservative, passion outspoken, ye outspoken. I'm
unspoken, no doubt, outspoken conservativeand a Christian yea. And I got
opinions and I let people know them. Um. And I tend to do

(36:30):
it in a humorous way or maybesometimes after a glass of whiskey. Sure,
And I'll go on Twitter and someonesays something dumb and I'll tweet back
something. And that was the otherthing too. I didn't realize that commented
on some I the part of theFacebook crew, right right, So like
when you comment on somebody, youhave to be friends with somebody else to
see that comment, or you haveto be like digging through that comment.

(36:52):
So I didn't realize on Twitter,it's like, hey, all of your
fans can see exactly what you saidto this other vers entire world. Yeah,
yeah, and then they screenshot itand yeah, yeah, Twitter is
I believe the word is cesspool.So this is the tweet that got So
you're pat say, jacking. Idon't know what that means, but yeah,

(37:12):
Wheel of Fortune. Conservative guy doesthe same thing. I don't know.
Well, I guess they just allassumed that every voice actor for anime
just believes everything that they believe,like or whatever. And because I had
a different opinion on a couple ofthings, and it's not like I go
out and I'm like swinging a sword. The tweet that got me, I
think in the most hot water umwas so stupid. It was so dumb.

(37:40):
So some Twitter follower said, pleasemake a TikTok, like, have
a ti TikTok account so that wecan watch you do present mic stuff.
And it was during the time whenDonald Trump was like, we're canceling TikTok.
We're gonna ban it from America becausewe're giving all of our our IP

(38:05):
information over to China through it.Yeah, and there was all those things.
My horrific, racist, xenophobic tweetwas no dot dot dot because China
period the present a reference on whatthe president was doing. And also like,
hopefully I realized you can't have peopleread it in the voice that you

(38:30):
want them to read it. Buthopefully it was like no, no,
because Jane, you know, likeI wanted it to be read like that,
like it's a joke, funny haha, Yeah, I get it.
And then there was another one.This is during the pandemic, whenever
the better to do and actual senseof humors were very low. It was
Sunny Straight wrote something on his FacebookI believe it was, and he uh

(38:55):
and Sunny Straight obviously was the originalvoice of President Mike. I took over
for him because he got ill fornine weeks. And then at the end
he very graciously is like, youknow it, Dave's doing a great job
with the rule. I've got usup in one piece. That's really hard
to do that and present Mike andall these other things. So give Dave
present Mike. So guy, reallycool, dude. He could have come

(39:20):
in and said, like nine weeksis up, yep, I'll record,
you know, rerecord, and kaddaYadA. Yeah, but no, it
was really really gracious and I'm supergrateful for him. But he posted this
thing down yeah, to say too, the both of us, like our
ideologies are completely different, like he'she's very far left, or I shouldn't
say far left, but he's he'sleft lying there. Whatever. He wrote

(39:42):
something like, maybe we should callthis virus because it was back when we
were trying to name the virus theBible Belt virus, since we down here
in the South have done nothing toprevent you know seven I'm paraphrasing, of
course, yeah, you know,we're we're the we're the worst down here
natural what's called the Bible Belt virus. And I said, I believe it's

(40:04):
appropriate to always give credit back tothe original creator. And that's like a
double because I'm like, I alwaysgive credit for Sonny Straight being the original
voice of President Mike. I givecredit to him and all these different things
that he's done. And we alwaysgive Japan the credit for these shows because
we are for the Mexican Homer Simpsonlike, we're like, you know,

(40:28):
we're secondary voices. So and it'ssomething that I've always said, let's always
give credit back to the original thing. So I said that, and people
are like, oh my gosh,he calls it the Chinese virus. He's
teaching his kids all these bad things. He's got two children. Oh my
gosh, we should save his children, who were like, it's all not
even in school. These are allpeople on Twitter. They're awful. And

(40:52):
so I went and I stupidly engaged, and and that's when things just went
downhill real fast. And I quicklyrealized that and deleted everything. It just
like went whatever. Which also,then, you know, cool, you
should already know. Yeah, youknow he's he's scared. We did our

(41:13):
job. No, no, herealized the air of engaging toxic. It
was really important. And then whichI did one time you caught me in
I don't remember this, don't.I don't even remember what it was.
I shouldn't have brought it up.And there was one there was some way
that said something online. I gotinto it with her, and when you
were like, I was surprised yougot into it, Like, yeah,
I realized pretty quick this is thisis a dumb thing. And it's it's

(41:37):
so hard not to. It's youwant to because because people you want to.
It's out of a good heart.Sometimes first let's say, hey,
that's not what I was saying.Think about this a different way. But
no, it never, and itdidn't in COVID it was all like eighteen
year olds like that's that's who feastedon me now. But now if I
go on Twitter anytime I post anything, it's so one comes out. Last

(42:00):
week it was a forty three yearold woman. I wish I had her
text you guys could go, let'spull up as Twitter. I was coming.
I commented on a post about inand Out? Yeah, and what
is your take on in and out? I love in and Out? I
love it. I'm not a waterBurger fan. I know it's a shame
I'm not either. I know thateverybody's always at in and Out are awful,

(42:22):
Like have you have the French?I like. I like everything better
at water at at in and Out, except for the breakfast. Burritos does
a good breakfast, Yeah, Ilike it, like the breakfast. I
also think water Burger sold and theyhave not been the same since the new
owners have gotten them there. They'remarkedly worse and the certain we have been

(42:45):
referring to them as way to Burgerin our household these days because it's like
forty five minutes. Need to hirethe Chick fil A dudes to help manage
their everyone mind. Yeah, nowthat everyone needs to hire. I think
they did that for the pandemic.When they do give all the vaccines.
How do we do this? Guymy pleasure now recently just hired their new

(43:07):
head of diversity. I saw that. Yeah, So In and Out just
wrote a policy that bands masks wornby their employees if unless it's accompanied by
a doctor's note. So I'm like, good because you know, one,
we've had three years now of researchwhere we've known that masks really didn't do

(43:31):
anything, and a vaccine that reallydidn't do And if someone's going to make
my food at minimum wage, I'dlike to at least see your face.
Well, that's the thing. TheIn and Out is not minimum wage.
In and Out pays their employees reallywell, it's a Christian companies. Don't
under don't under by my concept,but I'm not. I'm trying to gently

(43:52):
correct you. So we're about toget into an online debate. Feel free
to poke holes and whatever you've seen. Anyways, the In and Out thing,
I thought, well, that's that'sgood, you know, like yeah,
because masks are really silly, especiallyif you're in customer service, like
I want to see. And thenthere's the other whole thing of like,
if you're sick enough to have towear a mask to think that that's going

(44:13):
to stop me from getting back toyou. I don't want you handling my
food, Yeah right, no doubt, And that's wash your hands and don't
worry about them. That's what Isaid. I said that. I said,
if you're wearing a mask and you'reworking in food service because you're sick,
don't I know, I don't wantto eat there? And then yeah,
I don't want to go I don'twant to eat that because you're what
what do you think FOUTI is doingright now? Who cares? Yeah,

(44:34):
yeah, that's what I think.All right, good answer. Who I
don't know, guys, I dida job. We messed everything up.
Two years just two more years.Yeah, just hiding behind a podium somewhere.
But let's let's move on. Thinkabout running for president. I don't
know. I want to know aboutyour cooking, your culinary exploits. Oh

(44:59):
yeah, what what is going onwith that? What are you doing in
the same Dallas with your culinary exploits? It all started from um being an
actor, right, actors or waiters, waiters that care about their job I
think look more into the food.And I really was interested about the magic

(45:20):
of the kitchen and the food inthe back of the kitchen. And I
started my culinary career kind of duringmy acting career too, and I just
realized, I'm like, I wanteda family, I wanted stability, I
wanted a wife and wanted kids.So that was much better than trying to
zip from audition to audition and doingall this stuff. So I focused a
lot on culinary. Now. Um, let's see I started that back in

(45:45):
like twenty ten, Like did youget classical training or is this self taught,
never paid tuition, only paid attention? Wonderful seal that Yeah, yeah,
I stole it too, and I'veused it way too often. But
I worked at great restaurants like CapitalGrill Um del Frisco. Almost went there

(46:06):
Table thirteen. We almost went therefor our for our dinner. Oh yeah,
Capital Girl, and I looked atit's so expensive. We we ended
up on Cattleman's in Fort Worth.Old I would have ended up at Albertson's
and a Grill in the This wasthis was somebody like he was given a
bonus dinner of like, hey,here's some money go all right, well

(46:29):
yeah, yeah, if you're notpaying for it, it is a great
place to go. Yep. Yeahyeah. Cattleman's and for Worth very cool.
Yeah, those are great spots.So I had to find anything.
I did the Samlia thing. Ibecame a wine connoisseur, which is lonesome
dove. Have you heard of that? I almost went there too, Tim's
place. Yeah, the celebrity,the celebrity, celebrity, celebrity chef.

(46:49):
Sorry anyways, Yeah, the culinarygame got going in my life. And
um, during right before the pandemic, we opened up a food truck called
Swine and Garden, which I methey and intentionally wearing that shirt. But
um, pandemic kind of killed thatwhen the beer bars like all got shut
down and that was our main lifelineof business. So um. I had

(47:12):
been before that. I had beena culinary director for a restaurant group for
Tavernarosa, for thirty three restaurant groupin the area, and they had two
locations and I did that for alittle bit. Um it was a great
job. But now I am we'vejust kind of started Trosco Culinary up again
after a couple of years, havetaken a hiatus and what our focus in

(47:37):
our passion right now is doing thesespeakeasy supper clubs. Okay, so we
h, it's such a fun wayto do. Oh you I well,
I can't tell you now. Yeah, obviously a can of cream corn,
bring it to the door, letus know. The The idea was I

(48:00):
wanted to get back in, butI also didn't want to do the chef
life where I was working eighty hoursa week for sure hours a week,
because I got two kids, andI want to be present in their lives.
And I'm thirty six. I gotan eight year old and a five
year old, and they're awesome boys, and I wanted to just spend more
time pouring into them. So that'spart of the reason we got rid of

(48:22):
the food truck. Two was justbecause I realized it was taking away a
lot the weekly operations. So thiswas a way for me to do exactly
what I loved doing, which wasthe beer dinners and the wine dinners and
the pairing dinners and the six coursetasting menus. That's the best part of
being a chef anyways. Is theworst part is the day to day grind.
So I got to pick my favoritepart of being a chef. And

(48:43):
now we're really successfully doing it upor we do it up at DCBC Denton
County Brewing Company up and Denton partnerwith Seth Morgan up there, and we
do six courses and six beers andit's a blast and everyone's going great.
We've sold out of our summer seriesand we're gonna start a fall series.
Nice. Um. But the funpart is, and you you probably like

(49:04):
this, The last menu that wedid was an adult kid's menu. Oh
yeah. We took the standard Americankids menu, which is chicken and cheese,
mac and cheese, pizza's gotta beon there, grilled cheese, yep,
burger, hot dog, corny dogs. So we did um. You
know. The opening was a grilledcheese, but instead of a grilled cheese,

(49:27):
it was a reverse like it's ait's a deconstructed grill. It was
a reverse grilled cheese. The cheesewas on the outside and all the good
stuff was in the middle. Itwas a it was a sour dough facascia
bread that it had a ham crumbleon top. It was cool. I'll
show you some picture. It soundsawesome. And we did chicken Nuggies.
You know. I did pickle brinesoufed chicken breast that was coated in parmesan,

(49:49):
crispy parmesan, and then it hadlike a hot honey glaze and it
was it sounds so good. Butthe but the star of the show,
there's two stars. The one wasthis tender loin wagu hot dog that we
made out of wag you tender loin, Yeah, like way guild in the
lily. And then on the otherend, we did a brisket grind burger

(50:17):
on a brioche bun with a sliceof American cheese and some homemade mayonnaise with
MSG in it. Perfect and thatwas it. No mustard and mayo or
no, no mustard, there's mayo, no mustard, no ketchup, no
lettuce, tomato, pickle. Itwas just meat, cheese bun. And
the look on people's faces, OhGod, processed cheese American. I had

(50:42):
more people tell me that that wasthe best burger they ever had in their
life than any of the pizzas andburgers and things that I've made while I
was out working in the industry.Would look on their faces when they would
bite into this little it was likea little three and a half ounced burger.
It was like a slider. Isaw piano like have like, yeah,
bigger, it's a little bit biggerthan this letter, like almost.

(51:02):
It wasn't let more than a quarter. Fact, this was one of six.
So they've already they've got a lotof food. They've got a lot
of food. This is how youknew it was good. It's this table
full of thirty three relative strangers.You know, they may have seen them,
and some of them knew each other. There's this girl on one end
of the table and she's like,I just I can't eat anymore. I'm
full, it's so good. Ijust I just can't eat anymore. Sure,

(51:24):
but I want to. She didclear in her plate, and this
dude halfway down the table goes,she's not gonna eat that. I will,
And like she takes the first strangerhalf eaten burger from a total stranger
and just goes And I'm like,well, that's that's a testament. Yeah
for sure, I probably too.Well what do you think is it the
brisket the ground brisket? Does thathave anything? Is that? Is that

(51:45):
the perfect combination of a patty?This particular brisket was was fairly lean compared
to other briskets that I've gotten youto add in fat. No, oh
no, you never have to addin fat for brisk In fact, most
of the time you tim it's prettylean and hamburger then no, not by
any means. It is a fattyburger. But brisket has so much fat

(52:07):
in it. If you were togrind the whole brisket, you'd probably get
like a sixty forty meat fat ratio. Sometimes it's a lot of sometimes,
so this one is was a littlebit less I would say, like a
seventy thirty burger. But it wasyou know, fresh ground like I ground
the brisket. It wasn't like Iwent to a butcher and did it so
you know, I can control theblend of the meat. I tell you,

(52:30):
dude. It was. It waslike a meat cloud like. It
looked firm, it looked like itwas going to be a nice chunky bite
of meat. But you bit intoit and it just the juices and just
oh man, it was so sogood. I think right now, brisket
is actually cheaper than ground beef isat some places is not terribly expensive,

(52:52):
right now. Yeah, Well,like I do. Just get the I'm
not well, I'm also not doingprim no the choice. Just get the
select, and that's fine. It'swhat I do for my ground beef.
Anyways, I'll get. But whatI do is I go, you know,
when it's Memorial Day or Fourth Julyor grilled Day in Texas and it's

(53:13):
like ninety eight cents a pound ora dollar twenty nine a pound, and
I've load up. We got thesame idea of my friend. I got
like four briskets in my freezer rightnow, and then I'd put some back
too. Yeah, I had toput some back because that was they're ringing
up full price. I was like, excuse me, what's going on?
And they said, well, youcan only buy four, so I gotta
put these six back. So you'retelling me briskets now, I elaborated,

(53:37):
I will buy two from one locationand I will get I'm a respectful purchaser
from another. To be told,I exaggerated big time. I had four,
I had to put two back.There was a limit too, so
I got to you know, that'sthe one thing I don't like about the
cost CO is that all of thosepurchases are attached to it's so expensive.
Meat is expensive. They're all attachedto the membership. So if there's something

(53:57):
like for us, it's baby formula, right, because we've got an eleven
month old and you get two thingsthe baby formula. Well it's twenty dollars
cheaper per bucket of baby formula atCostco, but it's two per day.
Well, if you go to onelocation, you buy your two, and
then you think you're going to goto another location, your membership card has
already said that you bought your two. So yep, I was like,

(54:22):
are you kidding me? Snitching onyou? Like? No, Like,
I drove like ten minutes to gethere. Now I gotta go back and
well I have so many questions aboutcooking. But let's get back to what
else you're into. No, Imean that's that's okay. So you said
you're gonna do You're gonna do afall thing for this, right, So
when you do the fall, isit going to be like seasonal bruise and

(54:43):
then seasonal like veggies and and allthat. Everything is, everything comes up,
Everything is, every menu is originallydone and thought about. Um.
We usually I'll do the food firstand then they choose the bruise to do.
But I do also know that thereare certain bruise coming down the line
that we're gonna pair, and wewant to pair. So, like you

(55:04):
know, September October Fest is gonnabe big. So um, this next
inner we're doing this. We haven'tfinished our summer series yet. We still
have one dinner yet. Unfortunately it'ssold out. But um, unfortunately for
all of you, Yes, it'sa good thing if you're planning it.
Unfortunately for you plebs sold out.If you're putting on, it's good.

(55:25):
Yeah, fantastic. I was veryexcited about the adult kid's menu because I
thought, if if I can getaway with that, then that opens the
door for me to do anything.Yeah. So this next dinner is Pokemon
themed. Oh, so every courseis like We've got a fire course,
We've got a plant course, we'vegot a water course, we've got a

(55:49):
psychedelic course. I have an electriccourse, and I have an earth like
course. Now, at the beginning, we called it elemental, But now
that it's sold out and I haven'teven released the menu yet, I'm gonna
go straight Pokemon. Pokemon. Ithought you were going to have like roasted
Pikachu or something like that. Whodoesn't want yellow rodent for dinner? So

(56:13):
the Pikachu course is the electric courseactually, And I came upon this really
interesting ingredient this summer. Um.I have a friend, um colleague,
I guess his name is Jeff BednarJon's profound micro farms and great good guy.
He lives out in Lucas, Texasas a nacrofarms name. And we

(56:37):
were at Thanksgiving at his place,which they do Thanksgiving in I think it
was in June or May. Um, and all these chefs come together and
we all bring a pot lug dish, and you know, I brought some
cider from the winery and brought somesmith. I did not know. Um.
He want to cause contra, hiscontroversy at this thing. He learned

(56:59):
his lesson. So we're walking throughthe greenhouses and he, you know,
he's try this, taste this,it's got this flavor. Try this thing.
You might not have had this sortof flower. Eat this flower,
eat this. And we came uponthis thing called a buzz button. And
I don't know the actual name ofthe flower, but he said, if
you eat it, it's like theequivalent of putting a nine volt battery on

(57:22):
your tongue, like it has thatsensation, and sure enough, it was
interesting. So I'm like that waspart of the start of the Pokemon ideas,
Like I gotta do an electric course. Yeah, it's like you're adding
this. It's like you're adding athunderstone into your yeah yeah recipe. It's
an insane thing and it does.It totally takes over your palate, which

(57:44):
is why it's scheduled for dessert.That the dessert, it's going to be
a key lime tartlet with a passionfruit jalet on top, and then we're
gonna have some buzz buzz buttons thatyou'll eat and then you know, some
maybe some cream and somehow I don'tknow yet I'll go put it together.
But the idea is to eat thatbuzz button and then everything else is going
to be like the shock tart candiesthat we had in the nineties that used

(58:05):
to make your mouth Oh yeah,remember those, dude, I loved those.
Oh you eat like fire, likewe're not too sour, and then
by the fifth one, your tongueis bloody. So the minute you put
one on, it's like putting alcoholon a on a road rash. I
remember, it's like eating too muchpineapple. It's kind of it's it's not
the same, but it's it's similar. It ends up, yeah, kind
of destroying your mouth a little bit. So that's the idea of this electric

(58:25):
courses is that. And we've gota flame in meat ball for the jars
ard course and that's so good.It's gonna be great. Um. But
yeah, so that that one,I'm excited. I'm pretty excited about the
coolest one I think. And thisone took us some time to think of.
We were were trying to figure howto do an air course, like
how do we do air? Justserve an empty plate already, people won't

(58:46):
complain, spray something into their face. I love what the chef didn't here.
Yeah, what was it they didon spaceballs? It was the canned
air. Oh my gosh, you'reonto something. I've got to We've got
a canulator we can make we coulddo can I think you should. Yeah,
I think you President scrubs canned air. That is so genius. I

(59:09):
didn't why did that come up?Yeah, there you go. So the
idea stop the process. I didn'teven put the menu out yet, so
this could be we have time.This could be big. This because this
is a big that's awesome. Theidea that we came up with, or
that I came up with was Ithought, I'm gonna serve a kind of
like a bland dish dish, Sowe kind of rested on like deviled eggs,

(59:31):
something that's like bland, didn't reallyhave much smell to it. It's
hopefully it's familiar, familiar, simple, And then to hand out scented face
masks to people so that you know, we're all around this dinner table wearing
like a you know, a rosemaryand garlic scented face mask and eating our
deviled egg and you get a facialat the same time. Probably hopefully there's

(59:52):
no adverse reactions or something. II didn't know you're gonna put this on
my face, shout out. It'sjust it was a face mask. Do
I look good? You've been wearingit for three hues? Pass around a
little thing at dotera, and peoplejust get to pick their own essential oil
that they want to put on themask. Yeahs, hold on, hold

(01:00:16):
my place. I got some.But then it was also I liked it
because it was also kind of acommentary of like, hey, isn't it
funny that you know three years agothis was the only safe place where people
could sit down without a face maskwas at the table and were there that
it has holes in all of theareas that you'd want to cover. But
also the thought too that you know, but don't you remember when people did

(01:00:37):
that is they like my I distinctlyremember because my wife and I just got
married. We were at a restaurantand this person had a mask on that
they had cut like a slit underone of the ribs and so they could
open up their mouth. And Iwas like that that's useless. They did
they don't understand, Yeah, theydon't understand that. That just like totally

(01:00:59):
defeating purpose when you save lives.We don't talk about when you made a
muppet. But you can sit downat a table. But if you raise
yourself up two feet to walk tothe bathroom, you had put that mask
back. It's actually COVID lived.It actually didn't affect me at all because
I'm sub six foot. That like, I never actually got high enough to
get COVID. He made that argument, can be like look on table height

(01:01:19):
already table hight, So like Iget on the stool off this tool.
You can't tell how do you know? Yeah, we'll just do the funny
walking like you know. Yeah,I'm staying at table height. Don't worry,
I'm gonna it's gonna slowly walk crouchdown. So there's there is one
other thing and this is gonna bea total shift in gears that I wanted
to to talk to you about beforeour time with you comes to an end.

(01:01:44):
And that chicken. We can doa part two if you want to.
Dude, I would love to doa partner. If you want to
save it for part two, youcan just come back next week. No,
we can talk about a thing supportbecause we could end on that note.
Yeah, let me do it.Go further down the rabbit hole,
that crazy train. I love it. Okay, So, uh you mentioned
earlier you are a conservative Christian guy. All of a sudden, now you

(01:02:06):
get these you know, these partsthat are being given to you because they're
wanting to do things that that essentiallyoffend of your faith. So they can
say that you're turning down jobs.Right yeah, yeah, you you say
you you lived up in the inthe Northwest, you were involved in youth
stuff. You come down here it'sseventeen years old. You start voice acting.
Where is it in the Yeah,where is it that God becomes like

(01:02:31):
real in your life? To now? You know you're giving away autograph funk
co pops at the church. Yeah, at a small group of white elephant
Because there's there's a lot that seemslike it happens between point A and point
b. It was a lot thatmakes a huge transformation in your life.
Yeah, I mean moving to Texas, Uh was the last move that we
made. I had moved around alot as a kids, so I really

(01:02:52):
got into the worldly notion and andI just I didn't want to be a
Christian anymore. And I was verycombative with my parents the entire time.
Um, and I remember going tocollege too, and then like I went
to TCU, which the CEA ispretty much just stands for sea. Now.
I don't think it universe. Ithink the Texas Construction University now university

(01:03:23):
that could be that could go terriblequickly. Yeah. So I go there
and I don't I don't know ifmy parents thought they were sending me to
a Christian school or not, butI fell away, you know, faster
than peeling skin off of a sunburnedscalp, like it was something about that.
Uh, And and I got aggressivelyagainst you know, everything that my

(01:03:46):
parents taught me. No, therewasn't that back then, but I almost
I think I still veted for Bush'sback then. But I like, I
was like, I kept on threatening, like I'm voting for for what was
it? Yeah, yeah, itwould have been Gore Lieberman? And then
after that it would have been JohnCarry. No, it was it was

(01:04:08):
Carrying. It was Carry. Iwas like, I'm gonna John Kerry and
I'd like, I like, hinesketch up. Yeah, John Carry walked
into a bar. Bartender says myface, Yeah, for sure, that's
a hard one. Yep. Anyway, that was your threat. So that
was that was my thing. AndI went away. We uh. I
got around, left TCU and thenmoved to Jenten to go to unt I

(01:04:31):
finished my degree there because you wantedto go to a more conservative No,
because in Texas I got I wantedto live in an apartment and I my
parents kept on making me live inthe dorms. And I'm like, I
you don't know how miserable dorm livingis. And it was so miserable that

(01:04:53):
I just I like just gave upmy scholarship at TCU, and I just
kind of just gave up on collegeand was just I don't want to be
here. And then I went tount and got an apartment. Where were
your parents from, you said,he moved a lot. They they were
both from California. I was bornin California. We lived there for eight
years, and then we moved toPhoenix for a year, and then we

(01:05:14):
moved to Washington and that's where Ispent the majority of my adolescence and then
moved here when I was fifteen orsixteen. So how influenced by like the
I mean, because in the ninetiesyou're in Washington, that is sort of
the capital of like grunge and allthat stuff. Like we lived on the
east side of the state though,so Spokan Spokane was more like rednecks and

(01:05:36):
okay, gotcha. So you're outsideof like the city centers where those kinds
of things would have likely had alarger impact on where you were growing up.
Yeah, we knew about it,but it was also it was very
small townish, even though Spokane isthe biggest city in between Seattle and Minneapolis.
It was still like there was alot of poor people. My dad,
I think, made one of thelargest salaries in the town at that

(01:06:00):
time, and he was working forthe Boy Scouts of America. Like he
was like, if they knew howmuch he was making, like he probably
would have been ringing out of townon a rail, but they So we
lived in a very affluent neighborhood andkind of at that point, but um,
kind of fast forwarding back to likeun unt like, got involved in

(01:06:21):
a lot of bad stuff, gotinvolved into some just with bad, bad
characters, you know, in thetheater scene there too, hyperliberal minded,
and it just it was progression ofdownward spiral until I finally, uh,
I think I moved in with thedude in Dallas, and it just became

(01:06:43):
like a raging alcoholic like like goingto the karaoke bars every single night and
just you know, and then wakingup at ten every day like I do,
with no sleep and whatnot, andpounding a bunch of red lines and
going back to work and just doingthis thing. And it's a miserable existence.
Miserable dude, pounding a red linemakes for a miserable exist. I
was to a morning guy, agrief. Man, that's how much I

(01:07:05):
needed to get over the hangover hump. Yeah. But you know that that
is the stuff if you if youremember Dan that says on the can like
don't drink drink a quarter. Yeah, yeah, that you were supposed to
build up a tolerance. You drinka quarter and then you drink a half,
and then you drink three quarters,and you're never supposed to exceed like
one full bottle. And even then, Yeah, when I was bodybuilding,

(01:07:27):
I was taking caffeine pills and allthis stuff. I could never tolerate more
than like half a red line ina day or it would just give me
the jitters so bad and I justfelt sick. Two of those a day,
two thos in the morning. Oh, Like I would pound one and
then I would sip on one throughmy shift as a bartender at the restaurant.
Yeah, for the flavor, Yeah, just to keep the buzz going.

(01:07:49):
Yeah. And I think at thesame time too, this is going
to blow your mind too. Iwas also on like adderall, but it
was it was a different drug thanadderall, but it was like adderall.
So you know from my add right, because I got add right. Now,
you don't have add you got adrinking problem. My add really affects
me whenever i've whatever, I've hadlike a fifth turkey. Yeah. Yeah,

(01:08:13):
have you experienced though, I haveheard of a correlation with ADHD,
which I understand now they're the samething. But but okay, well,
I just know I was gonna ask, is you take a lot of caffeine
and it can can help control someof those symptoms, right, And I
don't know what was when you're inthe in the area of any sort of
substance abuse, and it's like I'mnot wasn't doing heroin or r and coke

(01:08:35):
and or anything like that. LikeI was just I was drinking, you
know, and occasionally a little bitof the marijuana. But like, um,
it was. It was a roughtime. And you're any any of
that, Like you don't know what'sactually happening, but you do know that
there's something wrong in your brain andeither you're trying to self medicate or you're
doing these other crazy things. Thecool story comes the start of it,

(01:08:57):
I believe of the redemption story ism I moved to London to do a
show for three four months, andI left all of the theater show it
was a theater show I was actingin London off with the West End and
it was a doubleheader, so Ihad to really focus on on the on
the script because it was just meand one other guy, and it was

(01:09:17):
a long script, a lot ofmemorization, and it totally took my focus
off of what I had been doing, and it gave me purpose and it
gave me drive, and then itripped me away from America and all the
things here and it it was cool. And then my girlfriend at the time,
who is now my wife, flewover to London to come visit me,

(01:09:40):
and that simple gesture that she showedme there was like, Oh,
I guess I am a worth person. I'm a person of worth to somebody.
Yeah, Because during that whole periodI felt worthless, Like my parents
were mad at me and it wasn'ttheir fault, like I'd be mad at
me too, and I just feltlike I was had made so many poor
decision and so many bad things thatI just couldn't get away from it.

(01:10:02):
And I think that's why I justcompletely download spiraled in Dallas. And when
I got out of that, Ihad this London trip for three months left
like all my medication at home.I didn't have the money to go out
and drink because I was making likeone hundred pounds a week. I could
just have them much money to eat. Yeah, So it kind of forced

(01:10:23):
me out of this thing. Andthen and then the purpose and then the
self actualization of of being what itis to be a person of worth helped
kind of pull me out really quickly. And then I came back here.
I moved in with my girlfriend atthe time, so we weren't Christians just

(01:10:43):
yet, but we were on themend. And then the testimony story is
is really we have time for that? It's like, no, we're gonna
stop. Yeah, yeah, therewe go. I mean I think this
is, uh, we have time. This is a good part maybe for
us to pick up been to parttwo and if you're down for coming back
next week, then I'd love it. I think we have to because I

(01:11:05):
let people wrest on the fact thatI used to be an alcoholic all be
like, yeah, I'm thinking thatfor that long. No, there is
redemption. There is redemption, andthere's a lot of it, and it's
been It's God's grace. Um,you know, I think I truly believe
that God claims people um at anearly age. And I was baptized when

(01:11:25):
I was eleven, and I andI don't think that God once you've done
that in your conscious mind, evenno matter how young you are, I
do think that there's like a blessingon you. And whether how far you
go away, the you know,the father's always there for the prodigal son.
And that's like, that's the story, and that's that's what we'll get
into next week. All that andnext on next week's Rev and Rev.

(01:11:51):
Dave, thanks so much for beingon the show Man. Yeah, it
was fun. I can't wait topick this back up. And have you
signed all of the yeah go buyyour you've got pops that I just did.
Yeah. Yeah, So thank youguys for watching. Y'all make sure
to like subscribe ding all of thosebuttons. Be back at the channel the
same time next week's same bat channel. Yep, So the week can we

(01:12:13):
can pick up which is which MichaelEuslin does not like the fabulous the talent
did the very handsome Dave Trosco.You gets stay hard to keep jamming.
We'll see you bucket roll. Yeah,
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