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August 31, 2023 • 54 mins
The Reverend and Reprobate are sans Danley this week as Lucas picks the brains of young Camden. Camden tells the @RevRepPodcast about his vast experience in Rubik's Cube competitions.

Lucas brings up the beef he's had with Camden and reveals some pretty exciting news!

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Never listen both Darling Yummy Reverend andthe remper Bate. Hey, everybody,
welcome to at the Reverend and therepervad show, about two best bus interviewing
people they have no business talking to. My name is Lucas Pinkard. I'm
an actual pastor and here with metoday on this very special Rev and Rev.

(01:07):
Sans Dan episode is the Intern YoungCamden, Harry, Frnandez. What's
up, buddy? How are youdoing? You know, I'm relatively the
same. How are you? I'mdoing pretty good? Yea. So we
we've got a lot of stuff totalk about. You and I. We've

(01:30):
got beef that we need to getto. But before we get to to
some of that stuff and get caughtup with you, a couple of weeks
ago, we missed an episode andI want to kind of give everybody the
update on that and why that happens. So I mentioned in the episode that
aired last week that I got reallygood news, and the good news was

(01:53):
that the lovely Missus Pinkard is pregnantagain. Yeah, so we will be
have the sequel. Will happen sometimein the sequel, and that's what we're
gonna call it for now. Thesequel's happening sometime in like March or April,

(02:14):
We're not really sure. We getour first appointments this week to to
kind of get all that stuff sortedout, and then so we find that
out, and then like two dayslater, Levi starts acting weird and he
he spikes a fever. We takehim to the doctor and Levi has what's
what's called hand foot and mouth diseasedisease. Yeah, it's called disease even

(02:36):
though it's a virus. It's calledhand foot and mouth disease or HFMD whenever
you you look it up, andit's it's this terrible little thing that kids
get where like rashes kind of justpop up all over their body, and
like some blisters will pop up onlike their hands, their fingertips, between
their fingers, all inside their mouthswhere it becomes really uncomfortable to eat,

(02:57):
to drink, on the bottoms oftheir feed, between their toes, and
and these like rashes can kind ofpop up everywhere, and then there's these
accumulations of these clusters of blisters.Well, the rashes don't itch or anything.
They just like look really gnarly andthey're irritating whatever they tire. Yeah,
like if you touch them, they'dbe irritated, but they don't,

(03:17):
like they're not itching, and they'renot like a constant thing like chicken pox.
But the blisters and stuff are obviouslya consistent source of pain whenever anything
touches them. So our pediatrician isn'tavailable to be seen, but underse practitioners.
And then the nurse, the NPcomes in and she's like, hey,
so you know your kid's got aton of source in his mouth.
This is very definitely handfoot of mouthdisease. And we're like, all right,

(03:38):
that's kind of what we were thinking. And and she was like,
but don't worry, Like adults don'tget it. I was like, pause,
one moment, both of my youngerbrothers got this whenever their kids did.
I'm the oldest of four, butthen the last one that was married.
And and so when when they're whenmy niece and my nephew got it,

(04:00):
both of my brothers ended up gettingit and they were miserable. And
so we tell the you know,the nurse practitioner. We're like, hey,
this is something. She's like,I wouldn't worry about it. I
was like, man, it justyou know, what can we do for
preventive? And she just kind ofrolls rise and she's like, look,
if you're gonna get it, youprobably already have it. Because it's most
contagious before you start showing symptoms.I was like, Okay, fantastic,

(04:24):
she goes, but you know,just don't kiss him on the mouth or
share drinks with him because it's primarilypassed through saliva. Here's the issue with
that. Levin is super super superdrouy right now because he's cutting teeth.
Yeah, and so like if wepick him up, we're getting drooled on
all the time. You know,a lot of times you've got something you
can wipe it off with or whatever. But before he was showing symptoms,

(04:46):
I'm not like washing my hands everytime I get drooled on by my kid,
or the drool gets in my beard, which is gross because I would
just be like living by the sinkthe entire time, because he's just a
drool Fact three. Well, tosave everybody the lead up and more to
the story, I end up gettinghandfoot of mouth. LEVI gets it for

(05:08):
a few days. He's miserable.We go to an event, and or
I say an event. I goto a little meeting with some guys from
our church. Come back after breakfastfeeling pretty good. Eleven thirty twelve hits.
I'm starting to feel a little nasty, but I take my temperature.
I'm fine. By three o'clock Saturdayafternoon, I got a temperature of one

(05:30):
o two point five. I thinkcold sweats, and I'm like in a
hoodie under a blanket. We wecan't because it's been like one hundred and
ten degrees in Texas with a heatand decks of like one twenty something like
our air conditioner can't keep up,so it's like seventy eight degrees in the
house. I've got the chills sobad that I can't get warm, and

(05:51):
so I'm like in a hoodie,you know, pajama pants, a couple
of pairs of socks, just likecovered up, huddled up on the blake.
It's miserable. So I had tocall in some reinforcements to preach for
me on Sunday. The Sunday it'skind of the same thing, but the
cold chills sort of stop. Mondayis when the sores come out for me
and we start counting, and I'vegot nearly four dozen blisters that I counted

(06:15):
inside of my mouth, so mymouth is like swollen. They're all over
the top and bottom of my tongue. They're on my gums. All the
ones that were the worst for mewere the ones that were on the inside
of my upper lip, because anytimeI tried to move, like if I
you know, cursing, came into check on me and asked me how
I was doing. You know,I if I talked, they hurt.

(06:36):
If I smiled, they hurt.If I frowned, if like I wentzd
because something else somewhere else, youknow, caused pain like that wentz would
cause my upper lip to move,and all of those blisters on my upper
lipled great against the inside of mygames, so it was just miserable.
Then they start showing up on myfingertips, and I've got some spots you

(06:58):
can see in the rest of thecountry we won't be able to where all
on my hands and on the tipsof my fingers were just blisters. And
then they started popping up under myfingernails, And this for me was the
ones inside the mouth were the mostuncomfortable bar none, But the ones that
underneath my fingernails were the weirdest becauseas they were popping up and the closer

(07:19):
they got to like the edge ofthe fingernail, they would start like pushing
my fingernail away from my skin andIt's a thing that like several people like
adults that get this will sometimes losetheir fingernails and toenails whenever they've got it.
So needless to say, whenever Iwould go to type or to edit
our episodes, it was it wouldbecome like a lot of pressure, kind

(07:42):
of painful. But also I waslike it felt like, yeah, like
realistically or or you know, ifthis is something like maybe an unrealistic thing.
My perception was the more I type, the more I try to edit
that I'm using the mouths or whatever, the more and more it felt like
my fingernails were just going to falloff. And so I was like,
hey, you know what we're Sothat's why we missed an episode a couple

(08:03):
of weeks ago because I was notreally in condition to add it. I
was still feeling a little weird,but couldn't like eating, drinking, talking,
We're all really difficult because the mouthwas covered in blisters. Well,
I had a conference. It's apretty good big part of podcasting. Yeah,
and not just that, but soI had on Saturday. So the
first Saturday that this happens on,I spiked the fever. Well a week

(08:24):
from then, I'm speaking at aleadership conference, and I've got three breakout
sessions that i have to teach,and so each one of those breakout sessions
is an hour long plus Q andah, and so I've got like a
four and a half hour block,is what it ended up? Well,
Nah, probably, I would sayrealistically it is probably closer to four,

(08:46):
right, because you've got these,you know, these fifteen minute breaks where
people hang around and ask questions inbetween. So the three three hour sessions
and those two fifteen minute breaks wherepeople are constantly asking questions, and then
really the fifteen minutes before and thefifteen and it's after. So let's conservatively
say it's about four hours of justsolid talking. There's no break from it

(09:07):
from it. So Thursday, theblisters of my mouth disappear, hands and
fingers are still there, and thenby Saturday morning everything has gone away.
But it's gone away in that weirdthing that you know, like when a
blister like loses all the juice that'sin the middle of the blister and it's
just right flat and deflated right there, right. But it's also so you

(09:28):
get the flat and deflated right kindof the floppy skin, but in some
of them like a really bad burnblister or something like that. The skin
is really hard, right, That'sall that I got was the hardest skin.
And it's the hardest skin in betweenmy fingers and in between my toes
and on my fingertips and on myfingertips. It's been catching stuff like when
I go to you know, feedthe chickens, Like the edge of the

(09:52):
bucket that the chicken food is inhas like some edges because it's, you
know, just a plastic five gallonbucket, right, But it caught the
edge of one of the blisters onmy fingertips, like the remnant of that,
and like ripped off a huge chunkof Like, yeah, it's it's
pretty gross. So so I'm kindof like sluffing off skin. So I've
got to, you know, prefaceeverybody whenever they come in. But also

(10:13):
I haven't really done anything at thispoint in like a week I go to
talk to anybody really like for aprolling period of time in a week.
But I also really haven't done muchas far as like being up and about
that. Four hours was like themost exhausting thing I think I've done,
and I don't know how many years, just like standing up for four hours
straight talking to people. The entiretime I was down in like water and

(10:35):
throatcoat, teas and everything I coulddo to try to just kind of maintain
the voice. And then teaching,I was teaching on a subject matter that
was really, really difficult, andso I'm teaching concepts and then having to
answer questions and a lot. Andso as soon as we get done,
I came home and just like flatout crashed. And then yeah, and

(10:56):
so now we're here. But forall of you who are listening, thanks
for be impatient with us. That'sthe reason that we missed last week's episode,
So we do apologize for that.But but that was it. I
was. I was dealing with hand, foot and mouths. And I'll tell
you, if you're curious about it, go ahead and give it a Google,
because it's I mean, it's gross, but you'll you'll kind of get

(11:18):
a good idea about about what Iwas dealing with last week. And it
is. It's gnarly. Man,So is it like genetic that you get
it as an adult since your brother'sgot it? Yeah, I don't know.
Like part of me thinks that it'sgot to be right, that there's
like some that, right, Yeah, it's super uncommon for adults to get
it, and then all of yourbrothers get it. Yeah, like all

(11:39):
three of us us get it afterour kids do, and then all three
of our kids, it seems like, had a pretty mild case, and
all three of the adult boys werepretty pretty severe. Like my my youngest
brother, he said it it tookall of the skin off of his palms
and the bottoms of his feet,and it took like a month for the
skin to grow back, so hehe didn't have like just on the fingertips

(12:01):
like what I've got, but hisblisters were like his entire poems and feet.
And there's different degrees. I thinkthere's like three different variants of a
hand foot of mouth disease, andobviously he got a pretty severe one or
one that his body didn't didn't handlewell. So I don't know if there's
some kind of genetic predisposition to youknow, this particular virus or like this

(12:24):
type of virus that our bodies justhave like a low constitution for fighting it
or whatever, because like most things, they get passed around, like we
don't get or we only get likemild cases of it but a hand foot
in mouth? What it wasn't gnarly? Ten out of ten do not recommend?
Like, well, I guess allthat be zero out of ten do
not recommend? Is is the ratingthere? So yeah, it was nasty.

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And then this week is we're tryingto you know, we're ramping back
up. Last week episode eight ofCamden Becomes a Star War comes out and
two rave reviews, and so nowwe've got one more of those left.
But as we're we're getting ready todo our recordings, Danley was taken away
on a work trip and versus leavethese these sweet clean listeners of ours and

(13:09):
the Dark without another podcast listen toCamden jumped up and filled in the big
man seat. So how does itfeel over there? What's the perspective like
ere farther away? Yeah, that'strue. Then whenever you're in the center,
that is, you're like, wehave to have to reach Yeah,
there we go. It's not quitethe U the loving run across the prairie

(13:31):
to get to one another weekend.We can get there pretty easy with reach
out. Yeah, yeah, thereis there's more distance here. We got
a little bit, you get alittle bit more leg room than that I
want to to get to some ofthe stuff that we have not gotten to
discuss with you on this show before. And I think you've got some props
for us. Do you have didyou bring there over there? Okay,

(13:54):
yeah, so why don't you gosnag them while while Camden does this?
One of the things we found outabout Camden and over the course of our
time podcasting, I think he's beenwith the show for about a year,
he starts to talk to us likejust in passing about some of the cool
things and abilities that he has.And I don't know what brought this up.

(14:16):
We actually tried to highlight it onan episode, uh several months ago,
that Camden is a Rubis Cube wizard. Now I don't know the proper
terminology for that. I don't thinkthat that that's it. But you're part
of the what's the what's there's aunion or an association, the WCA,

(14:37):
which is the World Cube Association.Okay, so the World Cube Association,
and you are a card carrying memberof the World Cube the World Cube Association,
but you are internationally ranked as aRubis Cubist. Yeah, it's like,

(14:58):
what do you what do you callthe the competitors and end this are
they like cubers, they're called cubers. Okay, so you're you're a cuber?
I am, yeah, because becauseI solve a little twisty puzzles.
Okay, So is it the normallike three by three that we think about

(15:18):
or or do you are there differentlevels of competition with different size of cubes.
So there's the regular three by three. Yes, that's like, this
is the one that everybody's familiar with, right with the with the regular with
the dots, And then you getfrustrated and you take the stickers off and
you just put them to tell everybodythat you saw I know, yeah,
I see that this one is reallydifficult to cheat with. Okay, So

(15:39):
there's we got a three by three. He's just pulling out a bunch of
rubeks cubes. This one is fourby four, This one's a twenty five
or you know, five by five, a two by two okay, so
this one that's two by two?Is this actually easier or more difficult to
solve? It easier because they're cool, like half the amount of steps,
So you do to a normal one, all right, And there's just because

(16:00):
I've watched enough movies on this allyou basically do is just this. You
find your starting cube and then youclose your eyes and you just flip flip
flip flip flip flip, like thirtytimes and then it fixes itself. Dude,
some of these look really complicated.That one's actually really easy. Okay.
So the world record for that oneis less than a second. This
one, so this one has asquare in the middle and then like triangles

(16:22):
on the edges and okay, that'sI don't even twist like the that's so
bizarre there, like thinner kind ofokay, no, like yeah, it
show show to me how to doit. So it's like this, okay,
all right, So with with theseones that you're mixing up like that,

(16:44):
like, is what's it called?When you it's a scramble? Is
that correct? Yeah? So whensomebody wins a Rubic's cube competition, is
it because they got an easy scramble? Like? Is that a Is that
a thing? It's yeah, there, there's definitely such thing as an easy
scramble. Like my personal best withon the regular one is eleven seconds,

(17:07):
but that's because I got like astupid easy scramble. Okay, So how
do you know if you got aneasy scramble. So you some people can
know just by looking at it.I'm not like that. I can't.
I don't know. I also amnot by looking at it, but I
can tell the like if the firststep is going to be easy, so
like the first step to solving orbaxcived the way I do it, which

(17:29):
I use a method called C FOPokay stands for a cross F two L,
L and then PLO, which arethe like steps. So like,
if I get one and it's likethis, I know that it's gonna be
an easy cross because there's already twoof the pieces in place, okay,
which would be these two and thenokay, you're gonna have to hold that
up to where like it'll be easierto see. Okay, So you've got

(17:49):
some pieces in place here and thisis on a already For all of our
people who aren't you, this isan episode that you're gonna want to check
out on YouTube. If you're listeningon audio said, you can see what
we're talking about. So basically,there's this piece that's already in place,
which you can tell because of themiddle. The middles don't move. The
middles on this are like centerpieces.That's how you know what color that side

(18:10):
is going to be. So theseare lined up and then as well as
the white. We're looking at thewhite cross right now because that's what I
do personally. And then there's theblue lined up, and then there's the
red one right here, which isonly one move away from being in place.
And then now for the last greenone, it's just that and then
now that's in place, so ignoringthe white corner. Now we have a

(18:32):
little like cross plus sign thing,okay, and that's the first step,
and then the second step would beF two L which stands for first two
layers. So it's where I makethese kind of pairs where there's like this
white corner piece as well as theedge piece that goes along with it,
and then you put it in andthen that's the little that you're doing it
so fast that's insane, man,And then you can make the other one

(18:56):
and then put it in, andthen there's one more and then the last
one, whoops, there you go, and then now the first two layers
are solved, which those are likethe easier ones, and then the last
layer is the hardest because you knowyou got to do it without messing up
everything else. So I would doOLLO, which I don't know, like

(19:18):
real, oll, so I dotwo. Look, so I do one
to get it to where there's likea cross on the top, and then
now I can do another one.Oh an ollo since for origent last layer,
which just means you get all theyellow ones facing up, but then
like the rest of it is messedup, and then you can just do
one more algorithm to solve the restof it and then it's done. Dude,

(19:40):
that's insane. Okay, So yousaid your best time is eleven seconds.
Yes, it's like eleven point sevenfour, I think. All right,
so I'm gonna be totally transparent.I have never once solved a Rubic's
cube on my own. What's prettycomplicated. I mean, it's easy to
learn, but you have to actuallylike want to learn, you know.
Yeah. Yeah, there has tobe like a desire to do it.

(20:00):
And my desire was that my dadtold me I wouldn't be able to do
it. Okay, so that's whatthat's what sparked. Your Your thing is
your dad told you, hey,no, you're not gonna be able to
figure this out, and you're like, yeah, because we were at this.
We were at Walmart one time andI saw it and they were on
sale and I was like, hey, can we get one? And he
was like no, because you're gonnatouch it like twice and then never touch

(20:21):
it again. So wow, allright, So it's been my challenge accepted,
and then my sister got me onefor Christmas, like the following Christmas,
and then two weeks later I learnedto solve it. And then now
I've been doing it for like fiveyears. Okay, so how do you
go from like, Okay, here'smy Christmas gift, Rubik's Cube too seven

(20:41):
years, I'm gonna I'm gonna becomea cuber and do this competitively because that
seems like, you know, that'sa pretty big shift to like find the
cubing community like gott you say that, yeah, Cuban community again. Yeah,
all right, So how do youhow do you go from cool I

(21:02):
got a Rubik's Cube and figured outhow to solve it to now now I'm
a cuber. Now I'm solving verycomplicated you know, well mostly I've got
the two by two right here,and I'm stuck. All right, like
this one is super easy, likewhich I think it's this one has like
ovals and triangles. This one it'scalled ivy cube. This one isn't solved

(21:26):
competitively, which is the only oneon the table that isn't solved competitively.
This is just like a fun thingto own. And my sister was able
to figure out how to solve this, so it's got to be pretty simple.
Okay, Okay, wow shade shadethrown there at at cadence. So
yeah, it's you just make thatand then make the top and then solve

(21:52):
the rest of it. Yeah,all right, it's very simple. Yeah,
that looked. You make all ofthis stuff look really simple though,
So so talk to me about howdo you go from I've out a rubiscube
that I figured out how to solve, too, I think I'm gonna do
this competitively. What so switch flippedin your brain that was like this is
going to be my thing that Ido. So once I was able to
like solve it like consistently and andlike under a minute, which it doesn't

(22:17):
take that long once you like figureout how to solve it, to learn
to solve it under a minute.Yeah, And I just like went to
my mom because I was I wasonly in like fifth grade at this time,
and I was like, can youlike register me for a competition?
And she was like, that don'texist. And I was like, yeah,
i'd do. And you and yourmom have such a weird way of

(22:37):
talking with one another. Yeah,that's that's word for word how it went.
Yeah, I don't doubt it.And so but I was like,
yeah, they exist. You justlike look up rub excube competition and you
can find them around you. Andshe didn't think that that it really existed,
but then I showed her that theywere, that this was like a
big thing. And so I wentto my first competition in like twenty fifteen,

(23:03):
sixteen ish, I don't remember,and they thought that like there would
be like maybe a hundred people thereright also before this, whenever she was
actually registering me, the registration openedat like a certain time, and at
that certain time, they were atthe movies. Okay, my mom,

(23:23):
my dad, and a couple otherpeople. I was at my grandma's house.
Yeah, and this is your grandmotherthat thinks I talked too much,
okay, and so what's up,donna? Uh? And so she figured
like it'll be fine, I canjust register him, like after the movie

(23:44):
and it'll be fine, but shesaid that it just like kept nagging at
her that she should do it now. Once like the time hit and so
she like left to like register me, and since it was my first one,
you have to fill out like allthe stuffs reforms and stuff. Yeah,
and the competition ended up like runningout of space in like five minutes.

(24:07):
Whoa. And there were like threeor four hundred people at this competition,
So that's insane. And they're normallyjust held at like hotel like event
rooms, I guess whatever they're called. With of the like five or so
I went to, I'm pretty surealmost all of them were in just like

(24:32):
hotels. Yeah. And so forthe first one that we went to,
we since it was my first competition, you get there early so that you
can they like have like a slideshowpresentation thing of like what like how it
all works and stuff. And weso we got there like an hour before
the actual competition started, and therewas nowhere to sit. Like this was

(24:52):
like a giant room with like aton of tables and there was absolutely nowhere
to sit. So we ended upjust like stay ending in the corner.
Okay, So what did mom thinkat that? Point, she was very
confused on why there were that manypeople coming to a Rubik's Cube competition.
Yeah, and at this point Icould solve it in like probably forty five

(25:14):
seconds. And my parents thought thatwas like insane, Like, yeah,
he's gonna like do like insane atthis competition. Yeah, my kid's going
to MT on a full ride scholarship. That's sure what they thought. Yeah,
and then I didn't even make itto the second round. You win,
like for the second round, youhad to solve it in like less
than twenty seconds. I think whoit was like the average of the people
that made it second round, Andso yeah, I didn't. I didn't

(25:37):
do that good at the first one. I only made it to the second
round at one competition and I didn't. And it's these are like multiple day
things, so I should go oneday, you compete on like the different
events that you're competing in, andthen you like go home. You they
like do all the stuff to figureout who moves on, and it's like
the top you know, fifty timesof each event and then you just it's

(26:04):
tells you whether on the WA website, it tells you whether you made it
to the second round. And thenyou go. They updated it like two
hours before the competition, and itended up that I made it to the
second round, and I didn't realizeuntil after it was already over to get
to compete in the second round ofof the only competition that I made it
to the second round in st Yeah, So like then are they just taking

(26:30):
your time? Yeah? So theway it works is they call you up,
They like yell out your name.You go up there, Camden,
Hernandez, here's here's your scrambled twoby two. Then I'm not going to
be able to figure out. Theydo it in a very particular way.
They they have a little cardboard likecup thing that goes over oh yeah,
yeah, because they hide it fromyou. Yeah yeah. And then you

(26:52):
have fifteen seconds to inspect it.So you say you're ready and they move
it and you have fifteen seconds toinspect. You're not allowed to like do
any moves on it or anything.You're just like looking at it. And
then at they warn you at sevenand then twelve seconds, and then if
you go if you go to seventeenseconds and you're still expecting it, you

(27:14):
get a plus two penalty. Andif you go past that then you get
a DNF oh okay wow, whichthat doesn't really happen very often. So
so how do you let them knowthat you're ready? Then you just put
it down and then they have thetimer. You have a time right here
which you just put your hands onit and then whenever you let go,
it starts, and whenever you putyour hands back on it, it stops.
And so you just put your handsdown and then you start, and

(27:37):
then you would go this this cubethat I've been working on for at this
point like ten minutes. Once you'redone, you just drop it and then
put it and then the timer secondsand then you have your time and then
they just write it down on yourpaper, they sign it, you sign
it, you move on. Andthen so how many do you just do

(27:57):
like one cube for the first roundor are they like multiple or do you
enter in competitions like per the kindof cube that you're doing, So like
you like three by three competition andthe two by two competition, and is
that so there's the different events.Some of them go on at the same
time, but like for the mostpart, it's like they'll do the three

(28:18):
by threes and they'll move on tothe two by twos, and then the
square ones, and then the scubesor whatever. This is a square one,
by the way, and then thisis a scube okay, okay cool.
And then so for each event,you do five solves and then they
like omit your fastest solve in yourslowest solve, and then they just average

(28:41):
that three and then that's your likeaverage for that that for that event,
and then the top you know,fifty times for the average go on to
the next round or whatever. Okay, So this this peer that I was
one of my favorite ones. Soundsreally fun. Yeah, this has multiple
shapes and it's called as scube.No, that's a square one. A
square one which is not square shaped. I mean it's sort of a square

(29:06):
shaped if you put it in thesquare shape, but it doesn't have to
be. That's really fun to solve. I like that one. Yeah,
I'll take your word for it.That one's like similar difficulty to a like
regular three by three, okay,which is just fairly easy compared to some
other ones. All right, Sowhat's the most difficult one for you to

(29:27):
solve? Uh? I mean,I guess a seven by seven. I
used to have a seven by sevenand then the very first time I ever
solved it, your dog ate it. No. I was walking out of
my room to show my mom thatI finally finished it after working on it

(29:48):
forever, and I tripped on theway out of my room, fell and
it shattered on the floor. Whatthat was a sad day. That's a
terrible story. I'm just gonna keepmixing these episodes. You're getting fix them
and which you know that's annoying becauselike, but I know how to put
together cubes, Like, they're notthat difficult to put together. They're just
time consuming, right, But itactually snapped the core. Yea, that's

(30:12):
in the middle, so it's notreally a ball. It's like a I'm
not gonna do it on that one. Because that's how many of these things
do you have? This is mostI used to have a lot more,
and I'm gonna be honest, Ithink I just lost a lot of them
because I don't know where some Idon't know where some of them are.
Yeah, but you have a wholelike backpack of cubes that you do you

(30:34):
like, so do you when you'reat school are you talking to you have
a cube of buddies that go toschool with you. Most a lot of
people I know don't even know thatI can do it, just because it's
not like a thing I say alot. Why Because I mean, it's
just like a thing I do.This is something I would tell everybody that

(30:57):
I did, Like if I likesome Egs cube, if we're doing like
ice breakers or something, then that'slike the fun fact I tell about myself,
Like I can solve a Rubik's cubein less than twenty seconds, but
so it's less like what's your averageRubik's cube time? Right now? It's
probably around twenty, but whenever Iwas like actively practicing, it was around

(31:18):
like fifteen ish. And that's notgood enough to make it today two for
the most part. No, that'scrazy. The world record, the world
record for the three by three wasactually broken not long ago, only like
a month ago or so, andit was like three point three something I

(31:38):
don't remember. Wow, that's somepeople are scary fast at it. Yeah,
yeah, that's into I don't knowthat. I don't know that I
could tell you my phone number inthe amount of time it took me gotta
to selve a rubikscube. And oneof the craziest parts is that, like
almost all of the like cube worldrecords right now out or held by the

(32:00):
same guy. His name is MaxPark. He holds I'm pretty sure he's
the one that broke the three bythree record. He holds all the way
from the three by three to theseven by seven, so at three by
three, four four, five byfive, six by six, sven by
seven, and then he also hasa couple other random ones. But the
fact that he holds all of theend by end except for the two by

(32:23):
two is insane. Okay, Sowho holds the two by two? I
remember Max Park? It's some randomdude. He broke it like a lot,
like two years ago, and ithasn't been broken since. It's point
four seven seconds. Oh good lord. But if you look at the scramble,
it's legit like four moves away frombeing solved. So he was at
it, doesn't I mean, hejust he got a like we talked about

(32:44):
before, he just got a goodscramble. Yeah, So, like he
looked at it, and since he'sobviously very good at it, he was
able to tell this is like basicallysolved. So he just picked it up
and he like he knew what todo, so he just picked it up,
did it from muscle memory? Putit down? And then it was
like when you put your when youput your cube down, do you have

(33:06):
to put it down in the sameway that you picked it up or can
you put it down with a certainside up so that you're you kind of
know, like like after you're doneinspecting it. No, you can put
it down however you want. Okay, So do you like put it down
in a way that's like, hey, this is gonna be the best starting
place for me to solve it.Yeah, you would put it down like
in the way that you want tograb it, so you know immediately like

(33:27):
how to start. Yeah, likewhat what moves you're going to do from
the beginning? I think I wouldhave a better chance of just going completely
random. And well, the probabilityof you solving a cube from just completely
random is pretty low because I mean, on just the normal three by three,
there's forty three quintilly in different waysto mix it up, which is
a very big number. It doesseem like a like a big number.

(33:51):
All right, So we've we've foundout about your rubic's cubing, which I
think is is fascinating. But that'ssomething that you hid from dan Ley and
I for a very long time.I'm about hit hiding. It just never
came It was hidden from us fora while, and then it kind of
comes up. I don't remember howit got brought up, but we got
fascinated with it. I'm curious now. So you've been on the show for

(34:13):
almost a year, as I'm justgoing to continue mixing these up and then
you can solve them as we aswe go to give us both of them
and fidget with So you've been onthe show for almost a year. What
have you What have you enjoyed aboutabout being on the show. Who's been
your favorite guest? I think,and then and then we'll get into my
beef with you. I don't evenremember. For one, I don't remember
names. I absolutely suck with names. Okay, yeah, what's my name?

(34:37):
I don't remember? All right,Well, that's a good start.
One interview that I remember really likingwas I think I remember this dude's name.
It was the puppet Dude. Isit Dave Pendleton? Dave Pendleton?
Yeah, our good friends the Wittieswere just on the road with Dave Pendleton
at VACA for comics. Yeah,I remember his being pretty interesting. Yeah,

(35:00):
the puppet Master, and I thoughtit was really weird. Whenever he
pulled out the puppet from like thetwenties that like moved in weird ways,
that was still worked and it wascompletely operable. Yeah, that was very
interesting. He looked like he wasalive. Yeah, that that was pretty
crazy. Who else have you enjoyed? Because Dave was was great even though

(35:21):
he won't let us into the ChristianComics Association. It's great that you belong
to. Then what is it theNational the World Cuber's Association, Because you'll
never be part of the Christian ComicsAssociation because of Dave. I can't believe
him. The man's an unbelievable menace. Another more recent one would be the

(35:43):
Batman. Dude, I don't rememberit. Yeah, Michael Uselin yep.
So this is where my beef withyou starts. Oh man, okay.
So we have on some guys thatare just incredible, for instance, Michael
Uselin. Okay, and we toour sweet young intern, Hey, you
want to come be a part ofthis. Ask some questions and you're like,

(36:06):
nah, that's not what I said. That is not what I said.
I said, yes, but thenI didn't realize that y'all had started
the interview, so I was justchilling in the youth room playing it was
no, no, no. Sothis was a Saturday, and when we
initially asked you, you were likenah. And then when you came in
and the interview because it did getdelayed, you're you're correct about that.

(36:28):
The interview with Michael was I don'tremember being originally on a Saturday delayed.
Yeah, yeah, it was originallyon a Saturday. And you're like,
no, I don't want to dothat. I want to go I want
to go do something else. Iwas probably busy on that day, Yeah,
for sure. But it does seemand this is one of the things
that that cracks me up. It'slike, we'll get somebody that I'm like,

(36:49):
oh, Camdiden's for sure going tobe interested whenever we interview this person
and we pitch them to you,and you're like, I mean maybe it's
a You're very man about the gueststhat we have on the show, which
I will say does oftentimes crack meup because Danley Andel will be really excited
about somebody and we're like, hey, it's this person, and you're like,

(37:09):
man, well, because y'all likeknow people's names. Whenever you say
someone's name, that means like nothingto me because I don't know who that
person is. Okay, So howshould we in the future, how should
we pitch things to you so thatyou know who it is we're talking about.

(37:31):
Just start with their accomplishments, probably, like we'll just show you their
IMDb page and then we can go. We can go from there, you
can decide if you one him ornot, because yeah, because I think
one of the other ones that waslike that was was our our upcoming interview
with Jim Wallace, who Jay Warner. Wallace is a guy who wrote a

(37:52):
book called Cold Case Christianity. Wehad him on a couple of years ago
after his book Person of Interest aboutthe finding, you know, the historical
Jesus came out, which is areally interesting read as well. He's date
lines most used are most featured ColdCase Detective. So the dude is,

(38:12):
it's just like stacking brilliant thing ontop of brilliant thing, right, So
we asked Camden and hey, doyou want to come this as the guy
and we start telling you about itand there for that interview though, and
you and you were like, Imean, if I'm around, and which
I was around, you were around, you were around? So yeah,
So who do we need to geton the show that like you would be
excited about outside of someone from DonutMedia, which we've attempted and has yet

(38:37):
been been fruitless. I don't know. I don't really know celebrities. Well,
we're not worried about. Just whodo you think would be interesting?
I don't know, other than Tina. I think we all want to get
Tina on the show just to chat. I don't know. Tina's are are
one for sure listener that we oh, yeah, she's a she's our youtubery.

(39:00):
Yeah, I don't know. That'swell, this is a fantastic start.
I don't like no people. Yeah, you know, you know what
I mean. I don't. Idon't. I'm figuring out that you don't
like no people. But it wasnot something coming into the interview where I
was like, you know what,I know, I know what he means
there. So this is for suresomething that we've got to find a new

(39:25):
way to pitch to you though,because you're you're like sixty percent out on
most people. Whenever we start talkingto about him, I don't know.
Whatever. Man, if you wantto have him on, you can have
him on. If I'm here,I'm here. But that is a is
a very intern attitude, which Imean a lot of the time I am

(39:45):
here. Yeah, that's true.So we did post out some opportunities for
people to ask some questions of Camden, And one of the questions we got
for Camden was this Camden how stuffgoing with the a ten secrety table.
That's probably the number one question wegot. Does it it? Does it

(40:06):
have a top? Yet? Kindof kind of all right, explain to
us the kind of so it?So I have this, well, I
had, I guess this little likebasket thing and the like the corner of
my room just with like some randomlike footballs, basketballs and stuff whatever,
And so I just like took itapart because it just kind of held together

(40:31):
with these little like thingies like theyhave like a little like thing coming out
of them at like different like aninety degree forty five zero. Okay,
yeah, you know, just tolike PLoP them together, but they weren't
held with together with anything other thanlike friction, so you just pull them

(40:52):
apart. And so I just liketook two of those and they're like have
a little tiny zip ties to holdthem together. I just like took that
and then put it on the table, the tabletop, and so that's my
tabletop right now, and so Ihave some like that's where I put I
have it as like my bedside tableright now. So I that's where I

(41:13):
put like my wallet and keys andRubik's cubes. Those those are on my
desk. Yeah, the Rubik's cubesare are where they belong to hot wheels
on on there though your desk,Yeah, because hot wheels are another thing
that you you sort of collect andaccumulate. Outside of Rubik's cubes, I
have like five hundred and something.Are you are you going to be one

(41:35):
of these hot wheels collectible guys thatlike tries to sell them or are you?
Like? No, I have allthe hot wheels I could ever want.
My dad sells them, but reallyI don't. This is such a
hard one to scramble. Oh Iwas wrong. As of right now,
I have around like six thirty sixand thirty hot wheels? Is I do?

(41:55):
That's uh, that's pretty pretty interestingfor a hot wheels thing. All
right, I'm watching you. You'rehaving a much either of the time scrambling
that one than I am. Myproblem with scrambling one that's oddly shaped like
that is I have a tendency tobreak things. This one doesn't break that
easy, and so as soon assomething gives me a little bit of resistance,

(42:17):
what I want to do is insteadof figuring out how to make it
go, I want to just muscleit into position. And that's going to
break it. Yes, yeah,so because like you have to have like
a line going all the way across, but sometimes there's not a line going
all right across. Yeah, soI would just so you just got to
make sure that there's a line.Yeah, I would break it. Please

(42:39):
don't. Yeah, I've That's whyI said this one's difficult for me to
mix up because I don't want to. I don't want to do all the
breaking. So so forth the MichaelUselin and then and then Dave Pendleton.
Now you didn't have an opportunity tocome in. Have you listened to the
episodes we did with Dave Trosco,the guy from my hero Academia who was

(43:00):
rich. I meant to listen tothem like two days ago, within I
wasn't able to you weren't able toput in your one phones and listen to
them. Why, like Tears forFears come out with a new album that
you just yeah, I just hadto. I think your favorite band Tears
for Fears. I only know liketwo songs by them, Everybody Wants to
Rule the World, which you toldus is your walk out music. Yeah

(43:21):
I did say that the first,yeah, you did, and then the
other one I know is Head overHeels. Okay, So who would you
say is your favorite band or artistright now? I have no clue.
I listened to a lot of randomlike, like, well, what's one
of your favorite songs right now?Is it that Richmond North, Richmond North
or Richmond by Oliver Anthony that's everybody'scrazy about. I mean it's good,

(43:45):
but yeah it's interesting. Yeah.Anybody that just like films their dogs laying
down in the middle of a forest, I'm I'm likely on board with I
like dogs, Yeah, yeah,for sure. I like Rap Snitches by

(44:07):
MF. Doom. Okay, that'sa pretty good song, Rap Snitch.
I want to learn the guitar fromthat song. Okay. So this brings
us to our next and final topic, is that you have recently been because
not only have you been interning heredoing stuff for the show, but you've
also been doing a lot of stuffwith the audio visual stuff and the audio
engineering that we do for our podcastingand then also for some stuff of the

(44:31):
church. And you're learning you're learningengineering. Yeah, I mean that's what
it is. You're sliding. You'renow learning guitar, which started like how
many weeks ago? Like this isa couple of days ago I bought Okay,
got the guitar. So what didyou get? It is a Fender
Squire something. The stratocaster, No, it's not a stratocaster. The telecaster,

(44:57):
No, it doesn't. It's notlike a caster. It's Mustang.
Do you have a picture of it? Yeah, okay, because this is
what I'll need in order to properlyidentify the thing at the end of the
fret board. Yeah yeah, thehead stock, the head stock. Yeah,
it says it on the head stock, right, because typically what comes
to the strata caster, I won'tneed to see the head stock. The

(45:22):
strato caster and the telecaster the twoprimary body shapes that Fender makes, though
they do have a handful of othersthat are are mixed in there. That
is a stratocaster. That is astrato caster. It does have a wayomy
bar. Yeah, so that's kindof fun the wayomy bar does. That's

(45:45):
how new are the strings? Brandan? Not very what? The strings aren't
very new? No, did youget a floor model? I don't know.
I bought it from Sydney. Ohokay, yeah, so they're they're
likely older strings. Yeah, andthere's like gunking them. Yeah. I
should probably get into strings. Butyeah, we can change the strings.

(46:07):
That's easy to do. So howare you liking guitar so far? I
like it. It's fun. Yeah, So what have you learned? Not
much? Yeah, so, like, do you know any chords? Do
you know what chords? I cando a couple, but I don't know
their names. Okay, I thinkthey're chords. You think they don't really
know. I try to I tryto learn like simple songs, and I

(46:30):
just do what the guy on YouTubetells me to do. Okay, So
what simple songs have you learned?You're really making me work for the C
and T and T by a cDC okay, which is very easy because
it's just played on the low EAstring and it's like and then you just
shout slay three periodically. Yeah,okay, it's just ea string open,

(46:50):
fret five and then fret three alright, so that's it's it's it's just
open three five three open, it'sbound brown bound brown brown bound bound,
and then for T and T it'sjust five three open bownown dan O might

(47:13):
that is. That's just about thechord progression for every ac DC song,
So I know, every yeah,just about Yeah, every a CDC is
is kind of, as we referto them as a one trick pony,
like this is the one thing thatthey do all their songs on just the
low easter, but with a CDC, it was such a good trick that
nobody cared, you know, likeit's it was what you're doing is so

(47:37):
cool. We don't care that that'sthe only thing that you can do,
like, yeah, just keep doingit. Yeah. Yeah. Most of
their songs are are right there onon that low East ring. And then
I'm trying to learn God's Not Deadright now? Oh yeah, which which
you're you're are you learning just thechords? Are you trying to learn the
me me me, me me me? Yeah? Yeah, anytime you go

(47:57):
to learn one of the me meme parts of any song that's that's gonna
be hard. I have like Ihave it down. It's just getting it
to where it's smooth. Yeah,because like whenever, it's because it starts
with my index finger on the elevenththread of the G string. Oh,
we're getting deep here, and thenmy I have my index finger on the
eighth threat of the G string,so I go and then I just move

(48:21):
my ring finger. Yeah, soit's just my index finger. So your
ring finger is actually what's on theeleventh threat. You said your index finger
was on both, which I thoughtmaybe meant you had a huge index finger.
I've never seen. My ring fingeris on the eleventh eleventh fat,
right, So it's and then youjust move your your ring finger, yeah
for the But then whenever you putyour ring finger back on, that's where

(48:44):
I get messed up because I keepputting it too far back. Then,
yes, so you're getting a littlefret buzz and yeahling this, yeah,
and I can't my finger don't wantto go to the right spot. So
when are you gonna come and playsomething for the show. That's what I
want to know. Don't have myguitar, so I can't right then,
yeah, not today? But whenare when can we expect Camden's play something

(49:07):
for the show debut. I don'tknow, because I do think it's going
to be very good. I dothink this would be kind of a fun
like progress thing. Is like oncea week or maybe once a month,
we bring yeah, maybe once amonth, we bring you in and we

(49:27):
just have you do, like,all right, play the intro to God's
Not Dead, and then you justdo it once a month for until you
you figure it out and get itgood, and then we just that'll be
the new intro for the show.It's just just whatever it is, however
good, however good, you couldplay it for that month. That's the
entire intro for the show for thatmonth. And I don't know about that.

(49:52):
I think this is will Yeah,but we're gonna take the It's like
with your your WCA stuff, right, We'll give you five tries and we'll
drop the best one and the worstone and we'll take that, we'll take
the average, and that'll be whatbecomes our our show intro. I think

(50:13):
I think Danley is gonna love thisidea because it's an anomaly, right,
because it's not because when it's thisis across the board, when you're learning
anything new, whatever your best oneis, it was a fluke. I
think I'm pretty baller. I thinkI would say in general, yeah,

(50:34):
you're you're probably pretty baller. Allright. Uh So, as we as
we wrap up, what advice wouldyou give to other people who are just
now starting to learn instruments? Practiceevery day? How much are you practicing
every day? Like an hour ortwo? Oh, that's good, but

(50:57):
it's mostly just me messing around withit, making funny noises. Yeah,
yeah, like I played with thewaymy bar a logical. Do you know
what. One of the things wealways told everybody whenever I worked at a
guitar center because there were a lotof parents that, yeah, I worked
at guitar center for I was amanager for them for a long time.
That we told parents was if theyif they had an instruments specifically four parents

(51:23):
who were musicians, they didn't wantto get their kid the crappy guitar or
like the low end guitar or whatever. They wanted to get them a nice
and one it. So they're like, you know, let's get like a
five or six hundred dollar guitar.Instead of the one hundred dollar guitar or
the two hundred dollar guitar. AndI was like, listen, if you're
if you're looking at the five hundreddollars guitar and you know that it's a

(51:45):
better quality instrument, but your kiddoesn't think that it's cool. They're never
gonna pick it up and play it. Right, it's better to get the
hundred dollars guitar or the two hundreddollar guitar that they think looks cool so
that they'll want to get up andplay and to learn it and all that
more than you know, the fivehundred dollar guitar that's nicer that you know,

(52:05):
what's gonna last in a longer time, but that's gonna end up on
the shelf that they're not going toend up playing, and that you don't
want because you've got you know,the twelve or fifteen hundred dollars or you
know, you've got the three ofyou know, three to four thousand dollars
instrument, you don't want to playthe five hundred dollar guitar. And man,
nearly every person that took that advice, their kids stuck with it.

(52:30):
So you know, if if rightnow, like playing with the Wamy bar
is what you want to do becauseyou think it's cool. Like keep it
up. Whatever's gonna keep you,you know, engaged in the instrument,
keeping your hands on it, That'sreally what's gonna make the difference. So
yeah, and enjoy it and digit, and I'm I'm excited about you
bringing it up here next week sowe can do our first seeing Camden with

(52:52):
his uh with his guitar and gettingour first taste of God's Not Dead from
mister her nand does Well. Thatis all the time that we have got
for today. Thank you guys forlistening. Hopefully next week we'll be back
with Big Dan whenever he gets backfrom Randy Dan's Operators. Foreign Missions trips

(53:15):
foreign Yeah, I think any placejust north of as a text and any
place like north of the Red Riveris territory and is foreignia once you reach
the borders of Texas. We hadI had a kid who grew up in
Texas his entire life, and hewas like, we're going to Oklahoma for
something. I was like, oh, that's awesome. You're going with your
family and a trip. He's like, yeah, we're going to Turnfalls.
That's cool, he's do I needa passport? No? No, you

(53:38):
don't. No, you're also you'reseventeen. You should know better than that.
Well, thank you guys for usto make sure to like subscribe to
a little Bit so you get notificationswhenever new stuff is coming out. We'll
be back next week with Big Dan. We've got some exciting guests coming up,
including our good friend Jay Warner Wallacewho mentioned a second ago, and

(53:59):
we will be interviewing the lovely,the very talented miss Lean Morgan in the
future. She is coming back onthe show now that her Netflix comedy Specialists
come out, and she is headingto Dallas. So if you're a fan
of Lean Morgan in her comedy,you're gonna make sure that you stay tuned,
make sure that you tell a friendabout the show. Y'all, stay

(54:19):
hard, keep jamming. I We'llsee you
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