June 3, 2025 • 32 mins
Being a podcaster is easy. You just have to talk nonstop and pour your heart out in front of a mic, right? Wrong.
Welcome to a very real and raw solo episode of The Ripple Effect Podcast. I’m Steve Harper, and today, I’m pulling back the curtain on my podcast journey, from awkward first episodes and painful feedback to moments of personal growth. If you’ve ever started something with zero experience and are unsure if anyone would care, you need to hear this.
Listening to someone else’s stories and experiences is a fantastic way to learn. So, in this episode, I will share how I found my voice as a podcast host and what it means to improve through small, consistent efforts. I’ll serve you truths about embracing authenticity, overcoming the fear of being on camera, and learning how to be a great interviewer, even when I thought I had no clue what I was doing.
For content creators, entrepreneurs, aspiring podcasters, or just someone trying to do meaningful work when nobody’s watching, I hope this solo episode inspires you to keep going!
Podcasting, for me, has become more than just a mic and a message. It became about inspiring people by making them realize their real impact on the world. It’s a Ripple Effect that continues to grow, one authentic conversation at a time.
If you’re new here, welcome to the journey. And if you’ve been riding this wave with me for a while, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
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Hey, welcome to another episodeof The Ripple Effect Podcast.
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I'm your host, Steve Harper, andit is a solo episode today. I am
grateful for the opportunity todo this. I have not done as many
solo episodes as I would haveliked for this year. Just had
too many amazing guests. Youdon't necessarily want to just
hear from me. You want to meetthe amazing entrepreneurs and
game changers and Ripplers thatare out there doing incredible,
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amazing work, and so I don'twant to detract from the
momentum and something must begoing on with this show. I got
to be honest with you, becauseat the end of the day, I am
probably getting maybe four orfive inquiries per day for
booking agents to get theirauthors, their speakers, their
entrepreneurs on this show. AndI am not going to look a gift
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horse in the mouth. I don't owna horse number one, so, and it
wasn't given to me as a giftanyway. So I don't even know
where that phrase came from, butit's, it's odd, super odd. But I
am truly, truly inspired that weare making a bigger difference
out there in the world throughthis show than I expected.
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If you are new around here, thisis the first time you've ever
checked out The Ripple EffectPodcast, please don't judge it
based on just this guy. I am apassionate entrepreneur myself.
I am focused on helping peopleturn ordinary connections into
extraordinary relationships. AndI go about doing those things in
a way that helps peopleunderstand the importance of
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being authentic, connectingbetter and building more
supportive, more valuable orbeneficial personal and
professional networks. And ithas become my life's passion.
But as I look at the show andwhere it's gone and how far
we've come, I am just blownaway, and I have you to thank
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for it, obviously, if you'rehere for the first time, thanks
for being here, if you've beenhere and keep coming back, thank
you from the bottom of my heart,because it means the absolute
world to me that you give us thetime and the space inside of
here and inside of here to dothis show. And when I first
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brought it out, somebody askedme, not too long ago, what was
the inspiration behind thepodcast, and quite honestly, I
just wanted to talk about thesethings in a more direct manner.
I wanted to be able to talkabout the concepts from my book,
the ripple effect, maximizingthe power of relationships for
your life and business. Now inthe third edition, you can find
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it on my website, ripplecentral.com, you can find it on
Audible. And right now, I'mhaving a little love-hate
relationship with Amazon, so Iwould not direct you there.
That's a whole different story.I could do a whole show on the
frustrations of working withAmazon as an independent
publisher. They are immense.The list is long, and the
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trouble is a plenty. Let me tellyou, those guys just ruin every
damn book I send them. I don'tknow what is up. It just pisses
me off. Anyway, I digress. Butwhen I brought out this show
initially, I was really rough.Didn't really expect anybody to
listen to it, by handful offriends, and when I was asked
this question the other day, Ihad to be honest with myself,
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the priorities of the show haveshifted and have changed. It was
just used, used to just be me,which I think for some people,
probably got super old, superquick, and then I realized that
I wanted to tell the stories ofother amazing, interesting
people that maybe had not madethe connection to the work that
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they're doing, or thecontributions they're they're
making out there in the world,to tie that directly back to the
Ripple concept, but I wantedthem to see that, and when I was
thinking about this questionthat got posed, it really filled
my heart with pride to see howfar we've come in relatively
short period of time. Now, don'tget me wrong, I don't have
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advertisers beating path to mydoor like, "Hey, Jamie, let me
give you some money. Help, helpsupplement some of your costs,
defray some of those expenses,and help you do what you need to
do." Not yet, but I remainhopeful and faithful that
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that will occur one day. But am I thenext Joe Rogan? No, no way.
Am I Mark Maron? I love thatguy. WTF Podcast, fantastic.
No. Am I a gifted storytellerlike Malcolm Gladwell with
Revisionist History? No.Yeah, am I creatively
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interesting enough to be like aRick Rubin? No, but I am me, and
that is all I can do. That isall I can show up in how I live
my life and good, bad orindifferent, if you understand
that phrase. And so the purposeof the show has evolved to
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highlight amazing people thatare doing great things out there
in the world. And as I justfound out from a guest that was
on the show last year, they'dnever even contemplated the
impact that their work had untilwe had our conversation, and I
pointed out all the differentways the Ripple had played a
part in helping them become whothey are today, and ultimately,
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all the Ripples their great workis creating out there in the
world, how that Ripple ishappening today because of them.
And that made me very, veryproud. And so as I was answering
this person's question, I said,"You know, I feel like my job
now is to give voice and shine alight on the people that are
making a huge difference outthere in the world. And if I do
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that, I'm doing my job. I'mdoing what I think my intended
purpose is, and I think I'mgetting better at it." I've had
some nationally renownedjournalists that have been on
this show that have said, "Youmissed your calling. You should
have been in media." No, thankyou. Don't want to be like going
all over the world. I don't wantto have to get up at the butt
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crack of dawn, even though I doit anyway as an entrepreneur, I
would never be a good on airtalent in any way. It's taken me
so long to even get comfortablejust being in front of a camera.
I could not possibly considerthat. But I do know they are
right in one capacity, I'm astoryteller. I like teasing out
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the details from people's lives.I like exploring their origin
stories. I love hearing theimpacts that they're making
through the work that they'reputting out into the world. And
this isn't just alwaysnecessarily entrepreneurs
running $20 million businesses,although we've had plenty of
those. Sometimes it's the peoplethat are quiet, little Ripplers,
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that are just making theircontributions in the world, and
they're not seeing they thinktheir efforts are minimal,
right? But they're not seeingthe impact that they make. But I
can see it. I can see when theireyes light up, when I hit them
with the right question, whenthe right conversation actually
just locks in. And you get apure understanding of what is
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inside their heart, what'sinside their brain, how they go
about living their lives. And Iam fascinated by it. I'm here
for it. 1,000,000% 1,000,000%because I every time I get an
opportunity to interviewsomebody, I feel like I am
learning something from them.And by all measures, my audience
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is telling me they arebenefiting greatly from this as
well. That's why our numberscontinue to increase. That's why
I think these agents arecontacting me, and I think I am
doing good work, and I'm sograteful and appreciative. So
yeah, rather than just make thisentire episode about me, if
you're listening, that was mepatting myself on both
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shoulders, but opposite. You'dhave to see it. But that's not
me patting myself on the back.That is me absolutely positively
reaffirming that I'm grateful tohave this opportunity to know
that a few of you tune in withregularity. And as I said, if
you happen to be new here andyou've still followed all this
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way, that you'll come back andkeep coming back, and, more
importantly, help us do what wecan to share the good work that
we're doing here with peoplethat you think can benefit from
it. So let me reintroduce myselfas your guide to really cool,
awesome people. Let mereintroduce myself as a person
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who recognizes that our talentsin life have to and should be
acknowledged and should beappreciated, and sometimes even
when we have them. Like myself,I did not know I had the
interview skill. I knew I wasreally good conversationalist,
which makes you kind of anatural, good interviewer, but
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I'm a little slow on the uptick,so I didn't make that
correlation, at least not rightoff and but that's, that's okay,
right? That's, you know, youeventually get there. You
eventually find your way towhere you need to be.
And I just love the lessons I'velearned along the way. I feel
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like every time I do aninterview, it's like a master
class of awesomeness, and I'mjust just beyond blessed. But by
way of introducing myself, whyis this so critical and
important? Because I thinkthere. So much negativity in the
world right now that people havea tendency to retreat to their
show. I think that there is aton of podcasts out there that
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can inspire and motivate you,but there's a lot of noise. And
so my passion has always beentrying to put together a show
that maybe isn't, well, let'sjust be honest, is put
together, you know, with a very,very small team, and there's not
a high production value. It'snot backed by advertisers at
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present, and it is just a laborof love. And I hope that labor
of love comes through in thesincerity of my voice, not only
in this message today, but, orin this show episode, but in
every interview that we putbefore you, I wouldn't put
anybody on that isn't a qualityindividual for you to know. And
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I mean, you think about it, yougo from having, you know, just
this monologue, which is what I'mdoing today, kind of a model
monologic, monologic, monolog-ishshow to "Okay, now let me put the
camera on somebody else. Let meask a few questions." I went back
to one of my first interviewsand realized just how far I've
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come, just how bad I was, andyet that person, an author,
still really, really enjoyedtheir time and really
appreciated it, and they didtheir best to promote what we
did together. And that made meso happy and so proud. And I
reached out to that person. Isaid, you know, "I don't know if
you knew this, but you were myfirst interview." And I could
kind of think, you know, when wewere talking, they were like,
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"Yeah, I could tell there, buddy,you sucked big Rhino balls," but
he was gracious, he was kind,and he said, I continue to be a
fan of your show. I'm not a fanjust because of what you do on
the show. I'm a fan of youbecause no matter what you do,
you show up as the authenticversion of yourself, and you
always have and everythingyou've done to support me, even
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before we recorded. But I willsay, Steve, you have come a long
way. You have improved greatlysince you and I recorded
that interview that could havebeen so much better, but hey,
now that you're kind of a reallygood interviewer, we should do
it again, and we are and wewill, but I felt so appreciative
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of that compliment, soappreciative of the
acknowledgement of how far I'vecome. So, why did I come this
far? I want to leave you withthis episode not just being
like, Hey, look at me. Look howgood a show is that that would
be stupid and really boring andself promoting, and that's just
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not me, right? I'm pretty sureit's not me, but I have this
quote that I have on my boardright now, the greatness is
doing the little things betterthan everyone else. And one of
the things that I think that Ihave allowed myself to do is to
expand my skills and myabilities, embrace the things
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that scare me, lean into thethings that interest me, and
roll the dice regardless of theoutcome, and put it out there in
The world and the right people,I think, will be the path to
your door. They will find you,they will listen and they will
pay attention. And if you do itjust a little bit better than
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everybody else, they're going totell people about it and help
you get even more ears and eyeson the show. And if the numbers
are any indication that'shappening in spades. And one of
the things that I think that Ireally appreciated about this
and how that ties back to that,you know, sort of that phrase,
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that statement that I have on myboard, is that I figured out how
to start small so that I missedsmall and I learned the process
along the way. Had to learnabout podcasting software. I had
to learn about editing. I had toeventually go from just an audio
format to a video format. Had toget comfortable on camera. I
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then entered into the world ofbringing somebody else in
through video and trying to havea fun, engaged conversation with
them so they didn't think I wasa complete Bozo and do it with
ease. And it was the littlethings that helped me along the
way. It was learning skills. Itwas finding my presence. It was
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discovering my voice. It waspracticing, if you followed any
of my YouTube videos, and Iprobably have said this on a
podcast episode or a dozen earlydays I had a friend. We were at
an event together, and she hadlistened to the first couple of
episodes, and I was superexcited to hear what she
thought. Rather than talk aboutthe content, she talked about
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how many ums and ahs. And cameacross so absolutely negative
about the show, and just it wasso distracting for her that she
didn't know if she could listento another episode. This is
about maybe five or six shows inand feedback is hard to hear,
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right? And I, I needed to hearit. I'm actually appreciative
for it, but at the end of theday, I was also really, really
hurt by it, because at the endof the day, I was trying to find
my voice. Anybody could seethat, anybody would understand
that, and this person who Ithink sometimes, you know, views
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what I'm doing, or my success assomewhat or like a competitor
instead of a friend or asupporter. I think at that time,
found an opportunity to put mein my place that was hurtful.
But you know what I did? I tookthat feedback and I wrote it
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down. I went back and listenedto those episodes. She wasn't
wrong, and I became morecognizant of maybe some of the
annoyances in my voice, myinflections, my nervousness,
when I didn't quite know whereto find the next phrase. And at
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the time, podcasts were, youknow, like had had this birth,
right? They were popular. Thenthey kind of went away, and then
they just came back withenormity. And that's about when
I started my show, and I wantedto be like everybody else,
right? I wanted to feelpolished. I wanted to feel like
I had good production value. AndI dove into the little
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things to try to make thoseimprovements, but until I got
that feedback, really, I wasunaware that I was not
comfortable in my own skin,which is why I had the ums, the
ahs, or I may have lookedsomewhat unprepared or maybe
just a bit chaotic. The pace wasfrenetic and awkward, but that
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was the little thing that Idecided to concentrate on, to
focus on and get comfortable inmy own skin. And rather than
which I would have done in mypast life, try to make the show
for her to win approval or to belike, Look how far I've come. I
just said, Fuck it, right? I'mI'm going to do the show that I
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want to do. I am going to do itthe way that I think I need to
do it. Yes. Is that feedbackvalue? Valuable? Absolutely. Was
it correct? Yes, could have beendelivered in a nicer way,
without question. But then youhave to consider the source. You
have to consider thecircumstances by which they felt
comfortable to bring it up, andthat there was not necessarily a
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desire to see me get better, butto really kind of keep me
down. And that inspired me. Andoftentimes you find in life that
it's those little things thatinspire you along the way, that
once that flame is started, youhave to feed it. You have to
give it energy. You have to putsome focus behind it in order
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for that flame to grow. Andpodcasting, for me became a big
passion, and somewhere along thelines, I decided, you know, I
love doing this editing, butit's a huge lift, and it's a big
enormity for me. Time suck,frustration, all that stuff. I
needed to get some help, and Igot that help. My editor is the
bomb, does such an amazing job.My Content Developer, she gets
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me, she understands my voice,she knows what I'm trying to
accomplish, and she's been ableto take some of these great
episodes and really turn thatinto something magnificent,
whether that be blog posts,whether it be collateral
marketing material,introductions to really top
executives or conferenceorganizers, we've turned this
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show into ammunition for Allsorts of things, and I feel
super proud, but it was thesmall little things that I had
to do and work along the way inorder to try to achieve the
level of greatness. I feel likethis show has achieved. Yeah,
we're nowhere close to like,having anybody want to come, you
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know, spend, you know, 1000s ofdollars to support it yet, but I
believe we will get there oneday. I believe if I keep showing
up and I keep doing the goodwork, and I keep getting good at
the little things, thateventually those little things
become great things, and thosegreat things turn into greatness
for the show and for me and formy guests and the output into
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the world, which makes. Me so,so happy. So part of the point
of sharing that with you is isto say, Look at the little
things that you're doing in yourwork, the little things that
maybe you have in terms of yourtalent, your experience, and how
can you continue to refine, howcan you continue to sharpen the
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saw on those things. How do youget better? And part of what I
think had to happen was havingto do all these little things
correctly and right, includingimproving my voice, including
overcoming what I just did rightthere, getting rid of those
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things or not being as how do Isay it hard on yourself negative
about those things, ums and ahsare going to come. We all do
them. And yes, it was thosefirst episodes really annoying,
because I did it a lot because Iwas trying so hard to put
cognitive, good thoughts infront of what I thought might be
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the audience of three or fourone and being my dad, and then I
went off the reservation like,you know, trying to, you know,
be a little bit harsher andbeing a little bit edgier. And
that didn't feel right either iBut I needed that experience. I
needed to work on those littlethings in order to get to where
I am today, and when you have aformer today show host and CNN
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anchor that tell you you missedyour calling really, even with
my awkward questions and evenwith my occasional ums and ahs,
and even with this nervousnessthat I feel like I showed up to
this show To have or thisepisode to record, they would
say yes, and that, Oh, my God,my friends, made me feel
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incredible. So I don't know whatit is for you. I don't know what
you're focused on or where yourenergy is being placed, but my
guess is that no matter whatthat is, there are a whole
sequence of little things thatyou have to do and work on and
continue to get better at and tofocus on and to refine, and
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before you know it, you'lleventually rise up and be on
your mountain top. My mountaintop is like a little, tiny Hill.
It's like an ant hill, but likea bigger ant hill, like the
bigger, fatter ants, right? Andeventually I want to go to like
the mound, and then I want to goto like a small, normal Hill for
people, and then eventually thebig mountain, right? I have
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goals. People, I understand, buteverything along the way is a
process, and you get better atit when you practice it, when
you focus on it, when you putsome energy behind it, and you
pour a little bit of kerosene onthat to keep that flame not only
just burning, but burningbrighter, hotter, and with
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intent, with intention and yes,you'll Take some lumps along the
way. You'll have some failures,you'll make some mistakes,
you'll do some things. You'relike, Oh man, I wish I hadn't
done that or said that, or I,and I by no means a professional
podcaster, even at this point,after this many episodes, I
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interviewed someone earlier thisyear, and I was like, Oh my God,
that interview sucked. I justfelt like my energy was off. I
felt like I was more thanaverage nervous for them. And
then when I saw the finishedproduct, I was like, "Who is that
guy? Who? Who is that guy? Like,wow." Like, I'm sitting here.
Like, Man, I got that guy's gotit going on. And then, I don't
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know, divide interventions like,Dude, you are that guy, you are
that guy. Oh, ah, oh yeah. Loveit. That was the reward, and
nobody was there to see. Itmakes me think of this. Just go
off on a tangent for a second.There is a scene in Yellowstone.
It's on social media all thetime, but Taylor Sheridan's
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character, whatever that guy,horse trainer, guy, his name, it
loves to be in his own show.Maybe I'm just jealous of his
guns right the biceps. I'll getthere eventually. But he's
talking to Jimmy, who's kind oflike, you know, kind of the had
been kind of the screw up of theshow early on, and then they
sent him off to this, you know,ranch, the four sixes. And, you
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know, he kind of grows up,becomes a man, realizes what it
takes to be a cowboy. And theyrun into each other at a rodeo.
And I think Jimmy had just seenTaylor Sheridan's character just
do, like, an amazing, I don'tknow, demonstration,
competition, whatever it was.And he walks up to him, and he's
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like, Hey, that that wasamazing. He said, I mean, it's,
you know, something. I'm justputting words out there, but
like, you know, that was, Ifinally figured out what it
means to be a cowboy. And theguy says, you know, that's not
cowboy. This just showing off.He said, The. The best horse I
ever worked was in San Saba,Texas, and no one was around to
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see it. And I that scene out ofso many great ones out of that
show, I'm a huge fan. Um, maybeI didn't take that other friend
of my train station out. Idigress, but, um, that phrase
hit me when he said it, and hitsme every single time I see it on
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social media. When you show upto do the work for yourself,
nobody has to be around to giveyou acknowledgement or to pat
you on the back. Say, Good job,you're awesome. It's in these
moments of self satisfactionthat you suddenly realize it.
And I'm watching that episode,like I just mentioned to you,
not my own episode, sorry. And Iimmediately thought of that
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Taylor Sheridan moment like thatwas my horse in the middle of
San Sabbath, Texas. Nobody wasaround to see it. It was the
best thing that I had ever done.You don't do it for other
people. You do it for yourselffirst. And if you do the work
that you're meant to do, and thecontribution that you are
probably put here on earth tocontribute, the rest of the
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world will sit up and takenotice, it just is true. And so
that scene from Yellowstone hitme like a ton of bricks. When
I'm sitting there thinking this,this particular interview was
gonna suck. I was cringy to hitplay, and then I watched it, and
I'm like, Whoa. Because, youknow, at the end of the day, my
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editor only has what they haveto work with right on this side.
Like, yeah, yeah. But even on myoff day when I thought I was so
nervous and didn't do a greatjob on that interview. He didn't
do any lights and magic. Hedidn't use any AI. He used what
he had, which was me on thatparticular day, nervous as hell,
interviewing a rock star who Iwas kind of scared to talk to,
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and I came across really well.The interview was fantastic. And
that person, the rock star, hassaid, When are we doing it
again? I guess in those moments,that's my cow in San Sabba,
Texas, where I worked it, andnobody's around tip of the
virtual cowboy hat to TaylorSheridan for that lesson. That
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is when you know you're doing itright, and when you can do the
small things really better thananybody else will do. When you
show up to work your ass off,when nobody else is willing to
get out of bed, when you areprepared to put in the heavy
lifting, whether you're going tobe successful or not, or get the
credit or not, or your name isgoing to be put in lights or
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not, you know, you're doing yourtrue calling. And for me, that
was money. That was money torealize that. So going all the
way back to, you know, thefeedback I got from that
individual, does it still stinga little bit? Sure I like it,
though I like the stinging,because the stinging keeps me
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sharp. The stinging reminds methat the work is not done. Every
single day I show up to do thisshow, whether it's me here just
talking to you, or whether it'sme having the opportunity to be
the conduit for you to bringgreatness into those years
through the amazing, amazingfreaking people I get to meet.
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It is not lost on me, and I wantto just thank you from the
bottom of my heart for theopportunity to do it. And I want
to thank you for tuning in andlistening and watching and
telling me when you see me outand about or on social that the
show means something to you, Iwill continue to work my ass off
and continue to put in the timeand the energy to continue to
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focus on the little things toget better. Will I ever achieve
true greatness? I'll never tellyou. If I do, I will tell you
if, in my own mind, however,doesn't get much better than
that realization me sittingalone in this studio. Lights
off, pushing play and realizing,Holy shit, that interview rocked
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so much so. And watch that guyagain. Maybe I'm a little loving
myself. I don't know. I'mkidding, totally kidding, but I
didn't once think that it wascringy in any way, shape or
form. And boy, did it comeacross as professionally done,
and that just made me sofreaking proud. And I watched
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three or four episodes sincethen, I've been listening to a
few of our old episodes, firstinterviews and beyond. Again, as
I'm on a walk or a hike, and Ijust I can't stop smiling. I
can't stop saying to God in theuniverse, thank you for this
opportunity. Thank you for beingin a position to lead me down
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this path, to find thisdifferent gear for ripple and to
actually be the inspirer behindsome of these people who don't
recognize. Is the contributionsthey're making out there in the
world, and being able to be themouthpiece to help shine the
light on them. I will continueto show up. I ask you to
continue to show up. And if youlike what we say and what we do
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and how this show sort of hasevolved, please share it and
forgive me for my occasionalarms and ons or my Bucha, my
missteps. It's what makes me me,and I will not apologize for it,
not to you, not to that personthat I talked about, my supposed
friend, not to my dad, not toanyone, because the only person
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really at the end of the daythat I need to show up and
perform for sitting right here,and if I do a good job and I put
in the work on the littlethings, maybe we'll achieve a
different level of greatnessthan I could have ever imagined.
Kind of think we're alreadythere. So guys, thank you so
much for tuning into thisepisode. I appreciate you
lending me your ears, lending meyour eyes on video. Sorry,
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you're dealing with this. Ifyou're watching on video, I did
get a haircut for you. That's awhole different story. Talk
about some rippling happening atthe barber shop. When I was out
of town, I had to go to a barbershop when I was traveling. And
man, I could got I could justsat there all day long and
listen to those stories, butthank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you for being here. Thankyou for listening. Thank you for
watching. Thank you for being apart of this journey. I know you
got a lot of other things thatyou could be doing with your
time, and to give me a fewminutes every once in a while,
means the world to me. So I'meternally grateful and indebted
to you. Go out there, do thelittle things for your own life,
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for your own adventure, for yourown business, for your own next
big thing, and maybe I'll seeyou on the top of the second
mountain, second large ant hill,the next mound, the next small,
you know, Hill, or the plateauof the greatest mountain you've
ever thought you could possiblyclimb that'd be great. I'll
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bring snacks. Ripple On!!!
Hey, welcome to another episodeof The Ripple Effect Podcast.
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I'm your host, Steve Harper, andit is a solo episode today. I am
grateful for the opportunity todo this. I have not done as many
solo episodes as I would haveliked for this year. Just had
too many amazing guests. Youdon't necessarily want to just
hear from me. You want to meetthe amazing entrepreneurs and
game changers and Ripplers thatare out there doing incredible,
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amazing work, and so I don'twant to detract from the
momentum and something must begoing on with this show. I got
to be honest with you, becauseat the end of the day, I am
probably getting maybe four orfive inquiries per day for
booking agents to get theirauthors, their speakers, their
entrepreneurs on this show. AndI am not going to look a gift
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horse in the mouth. I don't owna horse number one, so, and it
wasn't given to me as a giftanyway. So I don't even know
where that phrase came from, butit's, it's odd, super odd. But I
am truly, truly inspired that weare making a bigger difference
out there in the world throughthis show than I expected.
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If you are new around here, thisis the first time you've ever
checked out The Ripple EffectPodcast, please don't judge it
based on just this guy. I am apassionate entrepreneur myself.
I am focused on helping peopleturn ordinary connections into
extraordinary relationships. AndI go about doing those things in
a way that helps peopleunderstand the importance of
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being authentic, connectingbetter and building more
supportive, more valuable orbeneficial personal and
professional networks. And ithas become my life's passion.
But as I look at the show andwhere it's gone and how far
we've come, I am just blownaway, and I have you to thank
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for it, obviously, if you'rehere for the first time, thanks
for being here, if you've beenhere and keep coming back, thank
you from the bottom of my heart,because it means the absolute
world to me that you give us thetime and the space inside of
here and inside of here to dothis show. And when I first
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brought it out, somebody askedme, not too long ago, what was
the inspiration behind thepodcast, and quite honestly, I
just wanted to talk about thesethings in a more direct manner.
I wanted to be able to talkabout the concepts from my book,
the ripple effect, maximizingthe power of relationships for
your life and business. Now inthe third edition, you can find
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it on my website, ripplecentral.com, you can find it on
Audible. And right now, I'mhaving a little love-hate
relationship with Amazon, so Iwould not direct you there.
That's a whole different story.I could do a whole show on the
frustrations of working withAmazon as an independent
publisher. They are immense.The list is long, and the
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trouble is a plenty. Let me tellyou, those guys just ruin every
damn book I send them. I don'tknow what is up. It just pisses
me off. Anyway, I digress. Butwhen I brought out this show
initially, I was really rough.Didn't really expect anybody to
listen to it, by handful offriends, and when I was asked
this question the other day, Ihad to be honest with myself,
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the priorities of the show haveshifted and have changed. It was
just used, used to just be me,which I think for some people,
probably got super old, superquick, and then I realized that
I wanted to tell the stories ofother amazing, interesting
people that maybe had not madethe connection to the work that
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they're doing, or thecontributions they're they're
making out there in the world,to tie that directly back to the
Ripple concept, but I wantedthem to see that, and when I was
thinking about this questionthat got posed, it really filled
my heart with pride to see howfar we've come in relatively
short period of time. Now, don'tget me wrong, I don't have
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advertisers beating path to mydoor like, "Hey, Jamie, let me
give you some money. Help, helpsupplement some of your costs,
defray some of those expenses,and help you do what you need to
do." Not yet, but I remainhopeful and faithful that
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that will occur one day. But am I thenext Joe Rogan? No, no way.
Am I Mark Maron? I love thatguy. WTF Podcast, fantastic.
No. Am I a gifted storytellerlike Malcolm Gladwell with
Revisionist History? No.Yeah, am I creatively
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interesting enough to be like aRick Rubin? No, but I am me, and
that is all I can do. That isall I can show up in how I live
my life and good, bad orindifferent, if you understand
that phrase. And so the purposeof the show has evolved to
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highlight amazing people thatare doing great things out there
in the world. And as I justfound out from a guest that was
on the show last year, they'dnever even contemplated the
impact that their work had untilwe had our conversation, and I
pointed out all the differentways the Ripple had played a
part in helping them become whothey are today, and ultimately,
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all the Ripples their great workis creating out there in the
world, how that Ripple ishappening today because of them.
And that made me very, veryproud. And so as I was answering
this person's question, I said,"You know, I feel like my job
now is to give voice and shine alight on the people that are
making a huge difference outthere in the world. And if I do
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that, I'm doing my job. I'mdoing what I think my intended
purpose is, and I think I'mgetting better at it." I've had
some nationally renownedjournalists that have been on
this show that have said, "Youmissed your calling. You should
have been in media." No, thankyou. Don't want to be like going
all over the world. I don't wantto have to get up at the butt
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crack of dawn, even though I doit anyway as an entrepreneur, I
would never be a good on airtalent in any way. It's taken me
so long to even get comfortablejust being in front of a camera.
I could not possibly considerthat. But I do know they are
right in one capacity, I'm astoryteller. I like teasing out
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the details from people's lives.I like exploring their origin
stories. I love hearing theimpacts that they're making
through the work that they'reputting out into the world. And
this isn't just alwaysnecessarily entrepreneurs
running $20 million businesses,although we've had plenty of
those. Sometimes it's the peoplethat are quiet, little Ripplers,
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that are just making theircontributions in the world, and
they're not seeing they thinktheir efforts are minimal,
right? But they're not seeingthe impact that they make. But I
can see it. I can see when theireyes light up, when I hit them
with the right question, whenthe right conversation actually
just locks in. And you get apure understanding of what is
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inside their heart, what'sinside their brain, how they go
about living their lives. And Iam fascinated by it. I'm here
for it. 1,000,000% 1,000,000%because I every time I get an
opportunity to interviewsomebody, I feel like I am
learning something from them.And by all measures, my audience
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is telling me they arebenefiting greatly from this as
well. That's why our numberscontinue to increase. That's why
I think these agents arecontacting me, and I think I am
doing good work, and I'm sograteful and appreciative. So
yeah, rather than just make thisentire episode about me, if
you're listening, that was mepatting myself on both
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shoulders, but opposite. You'dhave to see it. But that's not
me patting myself on the back.That is me absolutely positively
reaffirming that I'm grateful tohave this opportunity to know
that a few of you tune in withregularity. And as I said, if
you happen to be new here andyou've still followed all this
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way, that you'll come back andkeep coming back, and, more
importantly, help us do what wecan to share the good work that
we're doing here with peoplethat you think can benefit from
it. So let me reintroduce myselfas your guide to really cool,
awesome people. Let mereintroduce myself as a person
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who recognizes that our talentsin life have to and should be
acknowledged and should beappreciated, and sometimes even
when we have them. Like myself,I did not know I had the
interview skill. I knew I wasreally good conversationalist,
which makes you kind of anatural, good interviewer, but
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I'm a little slow on the uptick,so I didn't make that
correlation, at least not rightoff and but that's, that's okay,
right? That's, you know, youeventually get there. You
eventually find your way towhere you need to be.
And I just love the lessons I'velearned along the way. I feel
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like every time I do aninterview, it's like a master
class of awesomeness, and I'mjust just beyond blessed. But by
way of introducing myself, whyis this so critical and
important? Because I thinkthere. So much negativity in the
world right now that people havea tendency to retreat to their
show. I think that there is aton of podcasts out there that
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can inspire and motivate you,but there's a lot of noise. And
so my passion has always beentrying to put together a show
that maybe isn't, well, let'sjust be honest, is put
together, you know, with a very,very small team, and there's not
a high production value. It'snot backed by advertisers at
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present, and it is just a laborof love. And I hope that labor
of love comes through in thesincerity of my voice, not only
in this message today, but, orin this show episode, but in
every interview that we putbefore you, I wouldn't put
anybody on that isn't a qualityindividual for you to know. And
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I mean, you think about it, yougo from having, you know, just
this monologue, which is what I'mdoing today, kind of a model
monologic, monologic, monolog-ishshow to "Okay, now let me put the
camera on somebody else. Let meask a few questions." I went back
to one of my first interviewsand realized just how far I've
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come, just how bad I was, andyet that person, an author,
still really, really enjoyedtheir time and really
appreciated it, and they didtheir best to promote what we
did together. And that made meso happy and so proud. And I
reached out to that person. Isaid, you know, "I don't know if
you knew this, but you were myfirst interview." And I could
kind of think, you know, when wewere talking, they were like,
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"Yeah, I could tell there, buddy,you sucked big Rhino balls," but
he was gracious, he was kind,and he said, I continue to be a
fan of your show. I'm not a fanjust because of what you do on
the show. I'm a fan of youbecause no matter what you do,
you show up as the authenticversion of yourself, and you
always have and everythingyou've done to support me, even
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before we recorded. But I willsay, Steve, you have come a long
way. You have improved greatlysince you and I recorded
that interview that could havebeen so much better, but hey,
now that you're kind of a reallygood interviewer, we should do
it again, and we are and wewill, but I felt so appreciative
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of that compliment, soappreciative of the
acknowledgement of how far I'vecome. So, why did I come this
far? I want to leave you withthis episode not just being
like, Hey, look at me. Look howgood a show is that that would
be stupid and really boring andself promoting, and that's just
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not me, right? I'm pretty sureit's not me, but I have this
quote that I have on my boardright now, the greatness is
doing the little things betterthan everyone else. And one of
the things that I think that Ihave allowed myself to do is to
expand my skills and myabilities, embrace the things
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that scare me, lean into thethings that interest me, and
roll the dice regardless of theoutcome, and put it out there in
The world and the right people,I think, will be the path to
your door. They will find you,they will listen and they will
pay attention. And if you do itjust a little bit better than
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everybody else, they're going totell people about it and help
you get even more ears and eyeson the show. And if the numbers
are any indication that'shappening in spades. And one of
the things that I think that Ireally appreciated about this
and how that ties back to that,you know, sort of that phrase,
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that statement that I have on myboard, is that I figured out how
to start small so that I missedsmall and I learned the process
along the way. Had to learnabout podcasting software. I had
to learn about editing. I had toeventually go from just an audio
format to a video format. Had toget comfortable on camera. I
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then entered into the world ofbringing somebody else in
through video and trying to havea fun, engaged conversation with
them so they didn't think I wasa complete Bozo and do it with
ease. And it was the littlethings that helped me along the
way. It was learning skills. Itwas finding my presence. It was
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discovering my voice. It waspracticing, if you followed any
of my YouTube videos, and Iprobably have said this on a
podcast episode or a dozen earlydays I had a friend. We were at
an event together, and she hadlistened to the first couple of
episodes, and I was superexcited to hear what she
thought. Rather than talk aboutthe content, she talked about
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how many ums and ahs. And cameacross so absolutely negative
about the show, and just it wasso distracting for her that she
didn't know if she could listento another episode. This is
about maybe five or six shows inand feedback is hard to hear,
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right? And I, I needed to hearit. I'm actually appreciative
for it, but at the end of theday, I was also really, really
hurt by it, because at the endof the day, I was trying to find
my voice. Anybody could seethat, anybody would understand
that, and this person who Ithink sometimes, you know, views
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what I'm doing, or my success assomewhat or like a competitor
instead of a friend or asupporter. I think at that time,
found an opportunity to put mein my place that was hurtful.
But you know what I did? I tookthat feedback and I wrote it
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down. I went back and listenedto those episodes. She wasn't
wrong, and I became morecognizant of maybe some of the
annoyances in my voice, myinflections, my nervousness,
when I didn't quite know whereto find the next phrase. And at
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the time, podcasts were, youknow, like had had this birth,
right? They were popular. Thenthey kind of went away, and then
they just came back withenormity. And that's about when
I started my show, and I wantedto be like everybody else,
right? I wanted to feelpolished. I wanted to feel like
I had good production value. AndI dove into the little
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things to try to make thoseimprovements, but until I got
that feedback, really, I wasunaware that I was not
comfortable in my own skin,which is why I had the ums, the
ahs, or I may have lookedsomewhat unprepared or maybe
just a bit chaotic. The pace wasfrenetic and awkward, but that
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was the little thing that Idecided to concentrate on, to
focus on and get comfortable inmy own skin. And rather than
which I would have done in mypast life, try to make the show
for her to win approval or to belike, Look how far I've come. I
just said, Fuck it, right? I'mI'm going to do the show that I
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want to do. I am going to do itthe way that I think I need to
do it. Yes. Is that feedbackvalue? Valuable? Absolutely. Was
it correct? Yes, could have beendelivered in a nicer way,
without question. But then youhave to consider the source. You
have to consider thecircumstances by which they felt
comfortable to bring it up, andthat there was not necessarily a
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desire to see me get better, butto really kind of keep me
down. And that inspired me. Andoftentimes you find in life that
it's those little things thatinspire you along the way, that
once that flame is started, youhave to feed it. You have to
give it energy. You have to putsome focus behind it in order
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for that flame to grow. Andpodcasting, for me became a big
passion, and somewhere along thelines, I decided, you know, I
love doing this editing, butit's a huge lift, and it's a big
enormity for me. Time suck,frustration, all that stuff. I
needed to get some help, and Igot that help. My editor is the
bomb, does such an amazing job.My Content Developer, she gets
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me, she understands my voice,she knows what I'm trying to
accomplish, and she's been ableto take some of these great
episodes and really turn thatinto something magnificent,
whether that be blog posts,whether it be collateral
marketing material,introductions to really top
executives or conferenceorganizers, we've turned this
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show into ammunition for Allsorts of things, and I feel
super proud, but it was thesmall little things that I had
to do and work along the way inorder to try to achieve the
level of greatness. I feel likethis show has achieved. Yeah,
we're nowhere close to like,having anybody want to come, you
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know, spend, you know, 1000s ofdollars to support it yet, but I
believe we will get there oneday. I believe if I keep showing
up and I keep doing the goodwork, and I keep getting good at
the little things, thateventually those little things
become great things, and thosegreat things turn into greatness
for the show and for me and formy guests and the output into
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the world, which makes. Me so,so happy. So part of the point
of sharing that with you is isto say, Look at the little
things that you're doing in yourwork, the little things that
maybe you have in terms of yourtalent, your experience, and how
can you continue to refine, howcan you continue to sharpen the
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saw on those things. How do youget better? And part of what I
think had to happen was havingto do all these little things
correctly and right, includingimproving my voice, including
overcoming what I just did rightthere, getting rid of those
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things or not being as how do Isay it hard on yourself negative
about those things, ums and ahsare going to come. We all do
them. And yes, it was thosefirst episodes really annoying,
because I did it a lot because Iwas trying so hard to put
cognitive, good thoughts infront of what I thought might be
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the audience of three or fourone and being my dad, and then I
went off the reservation like,you know, trying to, you know,
be a little bit harsher andbeing a little bit edgier. And
that didn't feel right either iBut I needed that experience. I
needed to work on those littlethings in order to get to where
I am today, and when you have aformer today show host and CNN
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anchor that tell you you missedyour calling really, even with
my awkward questions and evenwith my occasional ums and ahs,
and even with this nervousnessthat I feel like I showed up to
this show To have or thisepisode to record, they would
say yes, and that, Oh, my God,my friends, made me feel
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incredible. So I don't know whatit is for you. I don't know what
you're focused on or where yourenergy is being placed, but my
guess is that no matter whatthat is, there are a whole
sequence of little things thatyou have to do and work on and
continue to get better at and tofocus on and to refine, and
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before you know it, you'lleventually rise up and be on
your mountain top. My mountaintop is like a little, tiny Hill.
It's like an ant hill, but likea bigger ant hill, like the
bigger, fatter ants, right? Andeventually I want to go to like
the mound, and then I want to goto like a small, normal Hill for
people, and then eventually thebig mountain, right? I have
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goals. People, I understand, buteverything along the way is a
process, and you get better atit when you practice it, when
you focus on it, when you putsome energy behind it, and you
pour a little bit of kerosene onthat to keep that flame not only
just burning, but burningbrighter, hotter, and with
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intent, with intention and yes,you'll Take some lumps along the
way. You'll have some failures,you'll make some mistakes,
you'll do some things. You'relike, Oh man, I wish I hadn't
done that or said that, or I,and I by no means a professional
podcaster, even at this point,after this many episodes, I
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interviewed someone earlier thisyear, and I was like, Oh my God,
that interview sucked. I justfelt like my energy was off. I
felt like I was more thanaverage nervous for them. And
then when I saw the finishedproduct, I was like, "Who is that
guy? Who? Who is that guy? Like,wow." Like, I'm sitting here.
Like, Man, I got that guy's gotit going on. And then, I don't
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know, divide interventions like,Dude, you are that guy, you are
that guy. Oh, ah, oh yeah. Loveit. That was the reward, and
nobody was there to see. Itmakes me think of this. Just go
off on a tangent for a second.There is a scene in Yellowstone.
It's on social media all thetime, but Taylor Sheridan's
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character, whatever that guy,horse trainer, guy, his name, it
loves to be in his own show.Maybe I'm just jealous of his
guns right the biceps. I'll getthere eventually. But he's
talking to Jimmy, who's kind oflike, you know, kind of the had
been kind of the screw up of theshow early on, and then they
sent him off to this, you know,ranch, the four sixes. And, you
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know, he kind of grows up,becomes a man, realizes what it
takes to be a cowboy. And theyrun into each other at a rodeo.
And I think Jimmy had just seenTaylor Sheridan's character just
do, like, an amazing, I don'tknow, demonstration,
competition, whatever it was.And he walks up to him, and he's
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like, Hey, that that wasamazing. He said, I mean, it's,
you know, something. I'm justputting words out there, but
like, you know, that was, Ifinally figured out what it
means to be a cowboy. And theguy says, you know, that's not
cowboy. This just showing off.He said, The. The best horse I
ever worked was in San Saba,Texas, and no one was around to
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see it. And I that scene out ofso many great ones out of that
show, I'm a huge fan. Um, maybeI didn't take that other friend
of my train station out. Idigress, but, um, that phrase
hit me when he said it, and hitsme every single time I see it on
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social media. When you show upto do the work for yourself,
nobody has to be around to giveyou acknowledgement or to pat
you on the back. Say, Good job,you're awesome. It's in these
moments of self satisfactionthat you suddenly realize it.
And I'm watching that episode,like I just mentioned to you,
not my own episode, sorry. And Iimmediately thought of that
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Taylor Sheridan moment like thatwas my horse in the middle of
San Sabbath, Texas. Nobody wasaround to see it. It was the
best thing that I had ever done.You don't do it for other
people. You do it for yourselffirst. And if you do the work
that you're meant to do, and thecontribution that you are
probably put here on earth tocontribute, the rest of the
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world will sit up and takenotice, it just is true. And so
that scene from Yellowstone hitme like a ton of bricks. When
I'm sitting there thinking this,this particular interview was
gonna suck. I was cringy to hitplay, and then I watched it, and
I'm like, Whoa. Because, youknow, at the end of the day, my
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editor only has what they haveto work with right on this side.
Like, yeah, yeah. But even on myoff day when I thought I was so
nervous and didn't do a greatjob on that interview. He didn't
do any lights and magic. Hedidn't use any AI. He used what
he had, which was me on thatparticular day, nervous as hell,
interviewing a rock star who Iwas kind of scared to talk to,
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and I came across really well.The interview was fantastic. And
that person, the rock star, hassaid, When are we doing it
again? I guess in those moments,that's my cow in San Sabba,
Texas, where I worked it, andnobody's around tip of the
virtual cowboy hat to TaylorSheridan for that lesson. That
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is when you know you're doing itright, and when you can do the
small things really better thananybody else will do. When you
show up to work your ass off,when nobody else is willing to
get out of bed, when you areprepared to put in the heavy
lifting, whether you're going tobe successful or not, or get the
credit or not, or your name isgoing to be put in lights or
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not, you know, you're doing yourtrue calling. And for me, that
was money. That was money torealize that. So going all the
way back to, you know, thefeedback I got from that
individual, does it still stinga little bit? Sure I like it,
though I like the stinging,because the stinging keeps me
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sharp. The stinging reminds methat the work is not done. Every
single day I show up to do thisshow, whether it's me here just
talking to you, or whether it'sme having the opportunity to be
the conduit for you to bringgreatness into those years
through the amazing, amazingfreaking people I get to meet.
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It is not lost on me, and I wantto just thank you from the
bottom of my heart for theopportunity to do it. And I want
to thank you for tuning in andlistening and watching and
telling me when you see me outand about or on social that the
show means something to you, Iwill continue to work my ass off
and continue to put in the timeand the energy to continue to
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focus on the little things toget better. Will I ever achieve
true greatness? I'll never tellyou. If I do, I will tell you
if, in my own mind, however,doesn't get much better than
that realization me sittingalone in this studio. Lights
off, pushing play and realizing,Holy shit, that interview rocked
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so much so. And watch that guyagain. Maybe I'm a little loving
myself. I don't know. I'mkidding, totally kidding, but I
didn't once think that it wascringy in any way, shape or
form. And boy, did it comeacross as professionally done,
and that just made me sofreaking proud. And I watched
(29:27):
three or four episodes sincethen, I've been listening to a
few of our old episodes, firstinterviews and beyond. Again, as
I'm on a walk or a hike, and Ijust I can't stop smiling. I
can't stop saying to God in theuniverse, thank you for this
opportunity. Thank you for beingin a position to lead me down
(29:49):
this path, to find thisdifferent gear for ripple and to
actually be the inspirer behindsome of these people who don't
recognize. Is the contributionsthey're making out there in the
world, and being able to be themouthpiece to help shine the
light on them. I will continueto show up. I ask you to
continue to show up. And if youlike what we say and what we do
(30:12):
and how this show sort of hasevolved, please share it and
forgive me for my occasionalarms and ons or my Bucha, my
missteps. It's what makes me me,and I will not apologize for it,
not to you, not to that personthat I talked about, my supposed
friend, not to my dad, not toanyone, because the only person
(30:38):
really at the end of the daythat I need to show up and
perform for sitting right here,and if I do a good job and I put
in the work on the littlethings, maybe we'll achieve a
different level of greatnessthan I could have ever imagined.
Kind of think we're alreadythere. So guys, thank you so
much for tuning into thisepisode. I appreciate you
lending me your ears, lending meyour eyes on video. Sorry,
(31:01):
you're dealing with this. Ifyou're watching on video, I did
get a haircut for you. That's awhole different story. Talk
about some rippling happening atthe barber shop. When I was out
of town, I had to go to a barbershop when I was traveling. And
man, I could got I could justsat there all day long and
listen to those stories, butthank you. Thank you. Thank you.
(31:23):
Thank you for being here. Thankyou for listening. Thank you for
watching. Thank you for being apart of this journey. I know you
got a lot of other things thatyou could be doing with your
time, and to give me a fewminutes every once in a while,
means the world to me. So I'meternally grateful and indebted
to you. Go out there, do thelittle things for your own life,
(31:43):
for your own adventure, for yourown business, for your own next
big thing, and maybe I'll seeyou on the top of the second
mountain, second large ant hill,the next mound, the next small,
you know, Hill, or the plateauof the greatest mountain you've
ever thought you could possiblyclimb that'd be great. I'll
(32:04):
bring snacks. Ripple On!!!
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