July 30, 2025 • 52 mins
I sat down with author and former Obama speechwriter David Litt. We talked about his new book “It’s Only Drowning,” the scary state of our politics, the future of the Democratic Party, how to find common ground, and where to find hope these days. 8yrs ago, he and I were on opposite sides. Now we’re on the same side trying to help defend democracy.
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