THE VALENTINE'S DAY SPECIAL: College Football Coaches, Players, and Trends We Loved Last Season - College Football Podcast - The Solid Verbal College Football

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me, I'm
a man, I'm for it. I've heard so many players say, well,
I want to be happy.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
You want to be happy for a day?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Edith Steak, is that woo woom?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
And Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein, it's Valentine's Day at
the end.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Of the week.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, it is Valentine's Day. We're recording this couple of
days before Valentine's Day. But to me, this is a
month long celebration, a week long celebration. You know me, Tie,
I bathe in the romance Dacouzie. Also, I don't recommend
that you bathe in romance, Dacusies. I sort of spiritually
do it. I am very excited for this. We just

(00:41):
did a show about things in college football that grind
our gears, and we are flipping the script and we
are going to turn our focus on elements of the sport.
But I think this is how I approach it. I
don't know if you did the same way. This is
not like I love like halfback suite. This is like
I love this team, I love this player. I don't

(01:05):
care who knows it. I love this archetype of quarterback.
Like this I like this team's current defensive makeup. I
like this part of the sports specific like this conference whatever.
So this is more specific about things that.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Get our heart beating time.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, I can feel it, get the hairs on our
arms standing up.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Feel it.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Get those butterflies, yeah, get our heads swirling.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I must have Alex Golish's offense settle, settle.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, so this is this is uh, we're honoring love
and college football today.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
But wherever it is that you may be. If Valentine's
Day is your thing, yeah, hope you enjoy your day
on Friday. Do you have anything planned with the missus?
Maybe we can get into that a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'm gonna be out in California. I think the plan
is to go out to dinner. I don't know if
it's gonna be the night of Valentine's or a surrounding
of some time, but yeah, we're gonna go out to dinner.
We'll have babysitting with my parents, so we'll be good. Yeah,
we're gonna have one to night out wonderful.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Be a little bit warmer out there as well. Wherever
you are, wherever you may be, enjoy your Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
When you think about.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Love, it always were always Well, how.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Dare you interrupt my intro?

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(02:44):
We actually put a post that you did yesterday. At
time of recording. We are starting to put together some
of our show content. The folks on our premium tier, yes,
have the ability to weigh in our producers, yeah, and sort.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Of be our producers. Yeah. Help us. We did the
show here in the off season, So all right, Dan Rubistein.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
On that note, we have waited far too long to
get into our content for today, since you were the
one that hashed up this little scheme to do this show, which,
by the way, I think we've done every year.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Probably the last ten years or so. It's not a
new concept.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, I'm appreciating the sport I don't. I don't care
who knows it. A lot of people do this concept.
We do it best, but perhaps we're biased. Why don't
you start off since it seems like you're the more
passionate one of the two of us.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, I am.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean, I don't know if this is a story
for this episode or a Patreon only episode talking about
your Charlie's there and moment stretch dalliance. I don't know,
but yes, a good way to put it, Dallian's is
a good good way to put it. Okay, So I
already mentioned I bring Alex Golsh and USF, and maybe

(03:56):
I was a year early, maybe it was two years
too early, but I still treasure the fire he had
after USF beat Syracuse a couple of years ago in
the Bowl game. I still like their offensive ceiling. I
still love the shots that they refused to stop taking
against Alabama last year in a losing effort. I like
that they were great against Alabama in sort of confusing

(04:20):
what was it ty Simpson.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
And the notre dame dude Tyler Barner.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Two years ago and the defense quietly got better. It
was an up and down year, dealing with a lot
of injuries. Again, I may have been a year early,
but I am just going to be a USF believer
until I am just emphatically told by the Bulls themselves

(04:47):
not to be. And I'm not ready to give up
on this love Ty. I'm willing to fight for this
love will.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
And So.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
There is something about the American right now now where
obviously Memphis going through some changes and losing some key players,
and that losing teams like Houston and Cincinnati and SMU
like big programs, that there is a wide open field
to it. Obviously Army coming in in year one and

(05:17):
winning it, I think is indicative that there is an
openness to the American right now. And so I am
just I'm going to keep canoodling with USF TI. I
don't care who knows it well.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
First and foremost, Yeah, you buried the lead by not
dedicating this entire show concept to Marcus Freeman and his
tight white pants. Okay, I think we'll get to notre
dame you that's your number one. No, are you out
saying that's the whole concept. The umbrella sort of thing
for this entire show is Marcus Freeman, thank you, and.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Ty white Pants.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's it's in the same genus, phylum, and species as PJ.
Fleck wearing his medium c zip or whatever that thing. Yeah, right,
we have a lot of this in college football. Marcus
Freeman added his name to the pantheon of coaches worring
going with the snugger fit of some article. Yes, agreed, Yes,

(06:13):
one game could have been an accident and be like, oh,
I guess I'm this is skinny fit. I'm looking for
slim fit. But then it kept happening, so and it
kept happening. No, No, this is this is a trend. Now,
it's just the way he prefers the cut of the pants.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Good on him.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Sure he can pull it off, all right? Agree, Yes,
umbrella concept for this show. Secondly, sis, are you saying
that's something you're in love with about Notre Dame Marcus
Freeman's hand tightness, not.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
In love with monitoring you're monitoring?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Honestly? Are you monitoring Marcus Freeman's pants?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Now, the reason I bring this up. You know why
I bring this up. You know I have a weird
obsession with coach attire.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Okay, So, whether you're like PJ. Fleck on one side
of the spectrum, or Brett Bilabe, Brett Bielmo who wears
like a poncho on the other side of the spectrum.
Not just because he's a bigger dude, you know whatever,
but he just prefers that bag of your fit. I
monitor all sides, the entire spectrum, a great coaching, entire thing.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, this brings up a new question. What are Bill
Belichick's choices going to be wearing Carolina blue?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Is he going to do the cutoff hoodie thing? One?
So he's bringing that. Look, it's not going to top
poge at Charlotte, nothing to cut off tea, nothing top
bif back at Michigan. I believe now, No, here's the
thing about the coaches. Okay, and I say, yes, shop,
I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
God's the thing.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Here's the thing about coaches. And I say this lovingly
on the Valentine's Day Show. Okay, these guys are all degenerates,
all of them. They're all sickos in a great college
football Why they are, and so fashion is not necessarily
paramount when they're leaving the house in the morning. There

(08:01):
are many of them out there who have made interesting choices.
I don't know why I'm getting so fired.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Up about this, but I'm listening.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
So I'd like to move past this part of the
conversation if at all possible. But I would just say,
in general, Freeman in the pants and Fleck and the
Q zip and Brett Beelima and the art smock, all
of this stuff gets my Like Valentine's Day, you love.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
College coach fashion decisions that a coach is going to
plant his flag and say.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I'm a visor.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Guy's right, I'm a vest guy, I'm a khaki guy.
I'm a cleat guy. I'm a slim fit all all right,
I'm a hoodie you like.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay, we get it. Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Now, as for my actual thing that you was one, Oh,
that was one. But on my actual thing here that
you set me up for perfectly that I veered away
from because I had this thing about the coaching attire,
I have labeled this one as suddenly relevant. Army, Oh

(09:05):
I have something similar. Yes, Okay, So Army went twelve
to two this year. And I would say, if we
are being fully transparent, if we are looking at ourselves
in the mirror on the solid verbal, there are many
times over our seventeen year run, if you can believe
it's been that long of doing this podcast where we

(09:27):
have had forballers who want us to talk more about
Army and we do not. And the reason that we
have not is because most of our conversation over the
years has been focused on who are the most relevant
teams from a national.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Perspective, right, for better or worse.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
That is what the audience bio large is after Army
was really good this year, and we knew before the
start of the year that they were going to be good,
and not only that, but them now being a participant
in the American Conference added I think a certain luster

(10:05):
to that football program. We got a pretty good chunk
of the way through the season believing that Army was relevant.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
The playoff conversation as well.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, they're now also in the same conference as Navy,
which means two option teams one conference, which is going
to be brutal. We didn't see it this past year
where somebody had to play both back to back, but
for sure the Bruce Feldman body blow theory is going
to come into play for somebody down the road. Somebody's
going to get them both back to back. Okay, I
think they will continue to be relevant with this playoff conversation.

(10:37):
Certainly with the conference conversation, I think they're going to
continue to be a more interesting part of our college
football narrative moving forward, right and certainly from the standpoint
of what people were interested in this year as opposed
to all the previous ones, there was definitely a renewed
interest in Army football, and I count myself among those

(11:01):
folks who wanted to talk more about Army, wanted to
read more about Army. So from my standpoint, I don't
know if this is like getting flirty with Army. I
don't know if this get getting serious with Army. I
don't know if this is cyberstalk in Army. Whatever, I
was into the Army narrative this year, and I suspect
moving forward it's going to be more of the same,
because twelve and two is a pretty good first campaign

(11:24):
if you're jumping into a new conference.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I agree, it's incredible I put down. So my
specific wording is a version of Army that randomly throws
double digit pass attempts. Yes that there were games I know,
utsa relatively late maybe the Navy game as well, where
in keeping with the Valentines theme, it's discovering something new

(11:47):
in a partner that's unexpected. That like if you came
home one day and Kate were like, hey, tomorrow when
you get home. This is an imaginary world and in which
you work from an office. When you get home, what
if you dressed like a firefighter and you're like, oh,
is that something? And like there's something that new wrinkle
about Army football, keeping it fresh in my college football world.

(12:11):
Throwing it with Bryce and Daily like they did this yere. Yeah,
I appreciate that and like the not the reverse, but
even taken to a bigger extreme, a full firefighter calendar
ken Neamadalolo opening it up on offense for San Jose State.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, turning over a new leaf, right, finding a new chapter.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Like a divorcee who has done some like inward thinking,
and you know what.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I could be a better listener.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I could be a more attentive partner.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
He cashed in the better help offer that's running on
the podcast. He used the offer code. Yes, he rounded
himself out and he's turned over a new leaf.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
And the beneficiary is the second spouse that like, oh,
this guy worked through his stuff and is now man.
He is shopping for fresh produce every Tuesday. He is
suggesting new TV shows. He's graduated past the plastic bag.
He's going cloth bag. Right, Yes, Ken Neo Modelolo, you

(13:14):
get home from your day and he says, tell me
about your day.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I appreciate that in Ken Neo Modelolo showing himself to
be a versatile second act kind of guy at San
Jose State, which which, by the way, this dovetails nicely
into I just like San Jose State and Fresno State
football because I feel like they almost get lost a
little bit, kind of between the Bay Area teams moving

(13:41):
conferences and like you've got the stand for Jim Harbaugh
and you know, the nerdy man ball and cal with
fun players here and there on both sides of the ball.
Then USC and UCLA hogging so much spotlight out west
in California and Fresno State in the heat of the
San Joaquin Valley and San Jose State has had some
fun team teams recently, like the forgotten teams in the

(14:02):
shadows of California college football. I always just find myself
hoping that they're fun and hopefully with Fresno State entering
into a new era with a new head coach and
matt Enz. Hopefully we get that that Fresno State and
San Jose State in the Mountain West for now are
going to be teams that are excitable to us, especially

(14:23):
on offense.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, I like that. I do like that. Why don't
you do another one or two?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Because you have more of these than I do and
I need to cool down after that rant at the
top of the show, I apologize for raising my voice.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I hope that they offend.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
You needed place.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, listen, We're passionate guys, man.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
We care about this sport, we care about this podcast,
we care about this subject.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I agree. Okay. Oh, I'm tie have for the guitar. Okay, No,
it's okay, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
The guitar is there to be spoken. I mean another
one I have written down here club level late arrival.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Oh man, so Dan, I have this on my list.
There is some my god, Okay, go ahead, Okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Are we fighting over the same potential partner here?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
There is something that I love and treasure about in
this era. It's a contradictory stance where I can appreciate that,
like fluff Bothwell's going to Mississippi State to get more
attention and to perhaps better his future and his draft
stock on a bigger stage. Can he do what he
did at South Alabama at Mississippi State. But Cad Klubnik

(15:37):
as a former five star sticking it out with Clemson
having I think a breakthrough junior year, I would say,
or senior year. However many years he's been at Clemson
at this point a thousand, he's been there, been there
for quite some time, Clemson having the baggage of the
DJU era and huge xpectations because they were so great

(16:02):
in the late twenty teens, the mid to late twenty teens,
and no they're not taking portal guys and they're not
of the modern era, and Dabbo's taking heat and that
Caid Clubnick leading his team to an ACC crown and
the playoff, and potentially Kenny picketting his final season in Clemson,

(16:23):
sticking it through and just sort of exploding finally in
the way that because of eligibility rules that you know,
he could be Bonix, he could be Michael Pennix, but
doing it all at Clemson. They've built up receivers, obviously,
they've had some some high caliber running backs these past

(16:43):
couple of years. The defense took a hit last year,
but even still that we could have a situation in
which Caid Clubnick realizes his potential and his growth curve. Yeah,
I think it's a pretty great thing. Honestly, you know,
I don't have a fully formed, like July August opinion

(17:04):
of Clemson in twenty twenty five, but the idea that
Kate club Nick can finish strong no illusion intended here
on Valentine's sure, not a Peter North illusion. I think
it's a great thing.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I think it is.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Well, here's the funny thing about Kate Clubnick in the
club level. I mean, you know, I've been in on
the club level. I started the club level. Yeah, I'm
a founding member of the club level. I never quite
sold all my tickets, just some of the games that
I didn't care as much about, Yes, as one with
season tickets is wont to do. But I have joked
on this show forever about the conversations I have on

(17:42):
the phone with Uncle Joe because as a what's the
word tormented Giants fan? Okay, let's say Uncle Joe has
long been in the market for any quarterback other than
Daniel Jones, or any quarterback other than the quarterbacks they've
had since Eli Manning. Sure, and we have had conversations,

(18:04):
I kid you not about nearly everybody who had a
moment in college football over the past three seasons. I mean,
I get the phone calls at random hours in the
middle of the day from Uncle Joe wanting to know, Hey,
just out of curiosity, how do we feel about this
Haines King kid?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Anybody Eli Holstein? What do we know about Eli Holstein?
T talk to me about brail and Braxton? Is he eligible?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
No, he's not eligible. It's eligible. I had a Kid.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Club New conversation with Uncle Joe later in the year.
Apparently Kate Clubnick was on his Big Blue interactive message
board and he wanted to know, what do I know
about Kate Clubnick? What can I tell him about Kate CLUBNCK?
And you know, what can anybody say about Kate Clubnick?
Kate Clubnick coming into this year was very inconsistent. He's
very inconsistent. Obviously, the talent's there. I think the talent's there,

(18:59):
but he just was inconsistent. And what we saw from him,
especially in the playoff game, Dan especially in the playoff
game on the eye opening was eye opening if you
look at Heisman stats or Heisman odds, excuse me, Kate
club Nick's name is now on that list, and I
think it's powered in large part by what we saw
in the playoff game.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
He was incredible in the playoff game. He looked amazing.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
That was the best version of him that we have
seen yet. And so I am with you one hundred
percent of k club Nick. I want to see him
turn over this new leave. I do think getting a
little bit more firepower out wide with TJ Moore, Briant Westco,
I think that helped. But maybe it's just another year
in the offense. Maybe that helped. I don't know what

(19:43):
it was, but something clicked in that playoff game, or
something clicked down the stretch. Let's say, let's be a
little bit more generous. Sure love towards Kate Clubnick.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
And I'm really excited to see what happens next season.
I am.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I am genuinely excited to see what he looks like
now in his last year with Clemson because as.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Ten and four.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Team, you know, ten and fourteen made the playoff. As
you said, one on this run to win the ACC
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I'm in. I'm in on kve Clubnick again.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, Avery Johnson, this is I'm not giving up on us.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I'm not giving up on us.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
This is I need to find my sound from Seinfeld
where Costanza.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Says, I think it moved.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
This is you're not giving up on Avery Johnson at all.
And we're going to go to couples counseling and we're
going to figure out how we can make fewer mistakes, communicate,
complete some more passes, you know, craft and offense. Now
that there's I guess a new full time offensive coordinator
of Kansas State and Matt Wells after they lost last

(20:47):
year's to I.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Think he's one of the cowboys. Does that sound right?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, Connor Riley, I want to say, hopefully I got
that right. That Avery Johnson the best of him to
me is something I can't escape, tieh. And so I'm
not giving up on Avery Johnson. I'm not willing to
say that he's, you know, a sometimes star. I am

(21:13):
ready to be hurt once again by Avery Johnson's potential
because it's tantalizing and I can't look away. So Avery
Johnson is still on my love list.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
You used to call him a very Johnson, very Johnson
of course. Okay, I've got Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams.
It probably goes without saying. I don't need to drone
on about this why we love Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams.
But Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams definitely were the talk
of the town from the receiver position. Both of them

(21:46):
may have been if they were eligible to come out
in the NFL Draft this past year, they probably would
be the top two receivers off the board. Jeremiah Smith
might might have gone one overall, He's that good. These
guys have come in. They have obviously made a lot
of noise. Jeremiah Smith playd for a national champion in
his first year. Ryan Williams, you know, we'll see if
they can round out the offense now post Jalen Milroe.

(22:06):
But clearly both of them have incredible ceilings and are
going to be fun to watch for the next two
years at a minimum.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Ty, have you ever been in and this is a
peak into Tie's history and soul, have you ever been
pre kate in an entanglement that you knew wasn't going
to end well that you were thinking to yourself, you
know what, this isn't necessarily a long term thing. Yes,
this isn't a great match, But in the moment, I'm

(22:37):
ready for the pain it's going to cause me because
of what I am able to get from this situation.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Right, this is Taylor Swift. I knew you were trouble
when you walked in.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
As I started watching Jeremiah Smith last season early, You're like,
oh man, this dude is something else already. Immediately as
a freshman and heading into the first game against Oregon,
I thought to myself, you can't hope to stop him.
You can only hope to contain him. And Oregon, by
and large, they weren't fully gashed by Jeremiah Smith. But

(23:14):
then as I watched him the rest of the season,
and then as I watched Oregon against Penn State in
the Big Ten Championship game, the Oregon defense in the
Big Ten Championship game, I thought to myself, I can't
look away, but Jeremiah Smith is going to hurt me
and I know.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
He's going to hurt love them until you realize you
have to play against.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Them, that there's going to be that conversation between you
and Jeremiah Smith, and as Oregon and Ohio State appear
to be on at least a short term collision course
in the Big Ten these next couple of seasons that
Jeremiah Smith will still be eligible. I love Jeremiah Smith.

(23:52):
Jeremiah Smith is going to hurt me. And so that
is my very specific romantic entanglement. I have been in
that entangle. We were like, Wow, this is clearly heading
to a place of acrimony and it's going to be
painful for everybody involved. But but come on, I'm having
fun right now.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Why not? All right?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
So that's my relationship with Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Let me make it awkward. Segue over to the Yukon Huskies. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
So they were three and nine last year, and I
went back through before we did this episode. I was
looking through my notes to see what I said about
the Yukon Huskies, and this is a team that I
think had won six games in Jim Morri's first year.
They took a step back won three games in his
second year, and coming into this year, the questions that

(24:39):
I had were mostly around the fact that there was
a lot new Even though the schedule was easier, it
was hard to see them taking a giant step forward. Yeah,
I didn't see it. Yukon had eight games decided by
ten points or fewer this year, including seven.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
In a row to and the regular season.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Then they go on to beat North Carolina. I'll hollowed
out North Carolina. I should add by thirteen in the
bowl game to finish nine and four. Yes, Jim Moore's
third year. On top of that, one of the other
things that I noted in the preseason was that they
had switched up to a three three five defense, which
from now until the end of time will fascinate me.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I'm just always into the three through five. But they
switched up to the three three five led by Matt Brock,
who I believe came from Mississippi State, and it was
just unclear how any of this stuff was going to take.
They had a quarterback from Maine, like it was like,
what's going to happen, what's gonna have? Which way is
this thing going?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
The way?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Sidebar here on the three three five. Every sport kind
of has its own version of coach comes in and says, actually,
this is how we're going to do.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
This is how we're going to do it.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Like if Penn State hired a new basketball coach and
you're watching the press or whatever, and that coach says,
here's something that I think people are going to be into.
We're gonna press all game, every game, full court. Yeah,
you're like, oh huh, all right, I'm into wear this.
It's like, sure, it's a vision, it's a strategy. It's

(26:12):
perhaps unique in a sea of similar systems, and a
lot of teams run you know, a three three five
situationally or they are three three five elements. But I
always do appreciate.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Where you're just like, yeah, we're Jeff Castile heads over
here at Arizona at West Virginia and.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
We love we're going three to three five and that's
who we are and let's get weird with it.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Speaking of Penn State basketball. By the way, Eric Haslam
who does something called Haslo Metrics. He currently has Penn
State basketball three hundred and sixty fourth out of three
hundred and sixty four college basketball teams on this so
they could use on his momentum metrics. They have bottomed out.
They're horrible. They're so bad. If there is a version
of the three three five or the forty Minutes of

(26:55):
Hell or any sort of new and novel basketball concept.
Penn State is interested, Dan, they are interested, full stop
introductory press conference. Yeah, all centers, no disrespect to Matt Rhodes.
While I was all about yeah nah, now we're start oops,
all centers, the new Penn State basketball experience.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Great, it's so bad right now. It is so bad
right now.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I won't go too far down the line with talking
Penn State basketball, but yeah, to say the least, it
has not been not been a pleasant introduction for Matt
Rhodes since coming over from I mean VCU.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I guess it's a volleyball school. Tie, It's cool.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
It's a wrestling school.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Volleyball and wrestling.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, that's what Penn State does. Continue all right, da,
it's Micros. By the way, I'm calling him Matt micro Rose.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Okay, yeah, that's he hasn't earned it proper first name
if you're three hundred and sixty fourth in moment.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
My apologies.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
All right, I'm going to send out just I'm not
going to make this too official, okay, but I just
want to know that I'm I want this to know
that I am interested in it and the reason that
I'm going to give this a Valentine is because, frankly,
I don't understand it. But I am curious, not fully
against it. I'm curious. It's a trend.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
You and I have talked about it. It is this.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Weirdness of running backs that have two mouthpieces. Okay, I
don't understand this, Dan casual and formal. I don't understand this.
I really don't, and I don't know enough about it
to truly hate it. But I know enough about it
to not understand it at all.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
And it's this gets your juices flowing. I understand where
the love in Valentine is.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Okay, here's the thing. I'm curious. I'm intrigued about the
things that I don't understand. Okay, Okay, the words that way,
I apologize.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I apologize for talking about ties juices so openly and flippantly.
Continue in the words of Ted Lasso, don't be judgmental,
but be curious.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I am curious here. Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
It seems to me there's only a limited amount of
real estate on the front of the helmet. Yeah, you
can't hang a whole lot down there, right.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Just limited limited act. You need to be able to
see where you're going.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Okay, who is was there a running back? Specifically?

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Some guy from Oregon had it?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Jordan James.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I think I think Jordan James had it.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, okay, And I saw this pop up randomly throughout
the course of this past season.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I don't remember it being a thing before this season.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
So you're not you're not trying to be Judgie, You're
not trying to be a scold. But we're saying here today,
Ty hilden Brandt Colin mouth curious. I'm just trying to
translate here for.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
The people mouthpiece curious please.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, sorry, mouth curious, mouthpiece.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Gario's stick with that. So this is I think the equivalent.
I was trying to work this out in.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
My head because I knew you would be dead silent
when I mentioned this. Sure, I was trying to work
out in my head what is the equivalent, And this
is the equivalent of the of the person Okay, with
like the very interesting look or very interesting personality or
just very interesting character trait.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah that.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
You didn't think you'd be into, but you're kind of
into and you just need to know more about it
before you can.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
You know, do you have personal experience with this. I
never thought I'd be into somebody who appeared to be
or seems to be blank, But here I am intrigued.
I could be big, could be a little, a bob haircut,
you know what I'm saying, or look Gothy, maybe me.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I need to think more about this, Okay. Anyway, two mouthpieces,
two mouthpieces. Yeah, they get, they get one of the
Valentines dropped in the bag on the front of their desk.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I have rich Rod coming back, and I love it
for West Virginia fans. Okay, So this is it's something
that so many people seem to want to revisit. Will
it be an Affleck Lopez situation? Getting back together? Hoping
that this high profile I mean, that was a pretty

(31:21):
influential thing for like celebrity gossip. Right, Yeah, West Virginia
and rich Rod round one very influential college football offenses.
So I don't know if it's going to work out,
but you know, a central tenet of who I am
is glac tie give love a chance, sure, and so
I'm given this a chance. That they circled back and

(31:45):
found each other once again, they realized how right they
may be for each other, and so I love this
for them, that they're giving it a shot, to really
give it the old college try tie in their middle age.
You know, maybe they just weren't meant for each other
in the long term early, but they've seen other people

(32:05):
and they're circling back and saying, you know what, we
had it good together, we had a spark. And so
this is not my opinion necessarily that it's going to
work out. But I love it for the swing of it.
No pun intended, I love it pun intended there come on,
because no, it's not a swing situation, that's not a Dallian's,

(32:25):
it's not a one night thing. I love it for
the the vision and the hope of it all.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
So I love it. I'm great with it.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Speaking of vision, speaking of hope, let's talk about Sam Levitt.
Shall we let's how did you feel about Sam Levitt?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Towards you?

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I have a very very similar item here, I felt
great about Sam Levitt.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I have Sam Levitt here. I have Kevin jennings On
here in a similar vein. I have Sawyer Robertson actually
on great good answer in a very similar vein. And
I think the general thrust pun intended of this is.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
We're talking about quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Who maybe weren't coming into this season with a whole
lot of acclaim. Kevin Jennings was a backup, sam Levitt
was a transfer. Sawyer Robertson a lot of us at
the start of the season, or maybe not start of
the season, but say started the preseason, started the transfer
portal cycle. Thought it was going to be the Kwan Finn.
These are all guys who were overlooked in some capacity,
and I think all of them stepped up in a

(33:25):
huge way. Sam Levitt coming into this coming season is
like one of the top quarterbacks, truly one of the
top quarterbacks. What he was able to do down the stretch,
it speaks vis about his own talent, but certainly just
a scouting department that Kenny Dillingham's put together. Sam Levitt
didn't come in with much acclaim. He was a transfer
from Michigan State, so it barely saw a field. We

(33:49):
did the show with Bruce a couple of weeks ago.
We talked about what Dillingham did and bringing him to
Tempe and how that was a coup.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, huge deal, huge deal. He's the real deal. Kevin
Jennings well, Kevin Jennings.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Took over relatively early. It was an eyebrow raiser for me,
just speaking personally, because I was in on Preston Stone.
I was in on SMU I think before almost anybody,
and when you were high. When they lost that game
in the manner that they did eighteen fifteen, Week two,
I believe to BYU. I did not CBOYU coming at all.

(34:22):
But for me, it was like a gasp, an audible gasp,
when I saw that they pulled Preston Stone. I didn't
understand it at the time. I came to understand it
obviously the deeper we got into the year with watching
more and more Kevin Jennings. He was a really good quarterback,
really good quarterback, and definitely gave that offense another dimension.
And then the Sawyer Robertson thing I think was really overlooked.

(34:46):
But Sawyer Robertson again, I didn't think he was going
to start. Swy Robinson ended up being pretty good through
twenty eight touchdowns just eight picks. His completion percentage went
way up over the previous season in limited action. I
think he's the real deal. I genuinely think he's the
real deal, and I don't think it's going to get
a lot of love because Baylor wasn't one of these

(35:07):
top line teams that we talked a whole lot about
this season. But I do think they were able to
pull their offense together largely on his arm. And so
those three guys in particular, I think when I'm thinking
of guys that deserve a Valentine, Kevin Jenyns, Sam Levitz,
Swyer Robertson.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
So basically, you're saying last year's off season was the
first half of She's all that, yes, and then the over,
and then the glasses came off at the start of
the season, and we have the second half of She's
all that, She's all that situation. And I guess in
this scenario, Kalane sitake is Freddy Prince Junior. Don't do

(35:51):
that to him, Freddy Prince Junior.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm out on Freddy. I've always really yeah, I'm out. Okay.
I don't know why. It seems to have had a
pretty good.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
What was the baseball movie he was in Summer Catch
with Jessca Bill Okay, classic.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
No, no, no, it's not a classic.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
What we need to talk about being in the middle
of a no hitter at the end of this thing,
leave it walking off the mound.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I get that.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
As Jessca Bill, Okay, glac continue. You can give love
a chance without walking off the mound in the middle
of a no hitter to catch Jessica Bill at the airport.
That is unforgivable. I don't know, man unforgivable.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I don't know how old I was when that movie
came out. You can look up the year that movie
came out. I think there was a sprinkler scene with
Jessica Bill.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I get it. I get it, I get it. Movie
is in two thousand and one, so just as we
were all coming of age.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
It was eighteen seventeen. H I get it, all right.
I get it.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
From that standpoint, I don't get you can't walk off
the mound in the middle of a no hitter?

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Did Freddy Prince, Mary Sarah Michelle Geller?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I believe so?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Just how can you hate on Freddy Prince?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I hate on it because of that scene. That's a
character tie playing a role. I hate the character. I
hate the plot.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
There are a lot of wasn't he in Scooby Doo?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Another reason to not be in that was a bad
movieby Doo.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Oh, I hadn't seen the movie pro Scooby Doo. That
was fred bad movie. I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Uh, here's what I have down for, Like the Sam
Levitt situation, I have asu energy now. I didn't love
some of Kenny Dillingham's initial hires and Bo Baldwin's gone,
and so I was sort of skeptical about like this
first time coach stepping into the situation and having to
recruit so many portal guys and just backfilling and like

(37:45):
really struggling to round the program into shape quickly. But
what he's done in year two we talked about in
the playoff, And this is the point I made. This
isn't a point you made that like it increases the
number of teams who feel like they're CEE were failures
because they failed on a bigger stage with this expanded playoff.

(38:06):
And you know, Oregon goes thirteen and oh wins the
Big Ten in their first season, And how do you
look at the season and in any other way than
like at least a semi failure because of the way
they lost the Rose Bowl to Ohio State, that it's
heaping unnecessarily unnecessary negativity on other like the way Indiana,
Indiana is like yelled at by Kirk Herb Street because

(38:27):
they weren't as good as Notre Dame with a quarterback
who had attorn acl whereas Indiana should be looked at
as one of the overwhelmingly positive stories of the season. ASU,
even with their loss in the playoff, has immaculate vibes
and energy heading into twenty twenty five. That if you

(38:47):
could bottle what ASU fans feel right now about their program,
about Kenny Dillingham's enthusiasm and the rocket ship that is
ASU football. The only negative thing I feel about ASU
in this moment about Arizona State is that my team,
also on the West coast, doesn't get to participate. That

(39:07):
that could have been a really fun back and forth
with the Kenny Dillingham Dan Landing connection. That ASU and
Oregon are now ships passing in the night out west,
and so the energy though it's I don't know if
it's a honeymoon phase comparison here, but it's kind of
You're in a new relationship and man, things.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Are just going so well now. You are just.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Vibent TI and so I love that for ASU because
that's not something that one hundred and twenty four teams
have at the moment.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
What else do you got?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Also on my list of things that I love, I
have zerbiac qbs and specifically the Diego Pavia presence in
our live But like, there's more than just Diego Pavia, Right,
they're the dual threat guys that it's third and two.
You know that they are going to be counted on somehow,

(40:04):
some way. Well, you know Taylor Green at Arkansas, the
guys that are just like the offense is this guy
in the way that Miami of Ohio's offense and people
are constantly making walle Zerbiak references in twenty twenty five.
As we all know, of course, in the mid to
early nineties, whenever it was in the Ohio player, Miami
Ohio the do everything quarterback that obviously we've seen it

(40:29):
at places like Florida with Tim Tebow and dual threats
all over the place. They are like, well, it's fourth
and short. This you're getting a healthy dose of this.
But Diego Pavia beat Alabama doing it. I can appreciate that.
So I appreciate that we have him. I believe still
in our lives at Vanderbilt somehow some.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Years of eligibility. Does he have left some kind of injunction?
He has at least.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
One per.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
I think the latest round in lawsuits. Yeah, but that's
stemming from eligibility that he believes he is due because
of the way the NCAA treats junior college. So I
don't does he have one does he have two years left?
I think he has a year left, by the way,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Uh Notre Dame rode this concept to a national championship, Berth.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I was going to say, I was going to say,
if we're given props to one Diego Pavia by your definition,
shouldn't Riley Leonard also be in that category?

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I mean they both use that energy to beat disappointing
SEC teams.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
It's right.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
So yeah, it tracks, and so I'm.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Good with it.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Ty, I'm good with it. And I appreciate the Diego
Pavia experience. I have Sharon Moore, WHOA, yeah, okay, I do.
What is your what is your romantic connection to the
Sharon war twenty twenty four experience.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
It's not so much to twenty twenty four experience.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
It's more it's more a situation that I think has
a ton of potential moving forward. Okay, okay, you're planning
your flag now, I am, I am. I think we
find ourselves in this situation as fans all too often
when a big name coach leaves hands it over to

(42:25):
a lieutenant, and we're used to that situation running out
of steam.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
You know, I think go way back to like Butch
Davis at Miami giving it to Larry Cocher.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
That ran out of steam, right, right.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
We've seen instances over the years now where that is
not the case.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Notre Dame handed it over to Marcus Freeman. Clearly they
went to a national championship game, but it's just hard
to follow a legend of sorts like Jim Harbaugh was Michigan.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
So would this be like you dating Kate's best friend
if it didn't work out? We were like, well, we
don't know where this is going, but there's a familiarity
there that I'm hopeful I have not.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Worked out there to take care of my head.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Okay, but where I'm going with this is it was
a rocky first year for Sharon Moore.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
It was it was rocky first.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Year, and I just feel like it is all too
common over the history of this sport for the coach
to not recognize what needs to change, for him to
keep doing what he thinks he should have done in
year one, and for it to come off the rails
very quickly. And I don't think Sharon Moore is doing that.
I think Sharon Moore, through what Michigan has done in

(43:43):
the recruiting game with Bryce Underwood, through what they have
done in trying to overhaul some of the staff, it
feels to me like Sharon Moore recognizes what needs to
change in order to get Michigan too a better place
moving forward. And so I'm hopeful I'm not taking all
of my reputation, what little remains of it on Michigan

(44:05):
to use your terminology becoming this rocket ship. I don't
know if that's going to happen. I like Bryce Underwood.
I think Bryce Underwood's a real deal.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Okay, But.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Sharon Moore feels to me with the way that he
got that team playing down the stretch, with beating Ohio State,
with beating Alabama to close out the year, with some
of the momentum, I think they've been able to capture
here through the recruiting game, some of the hires that
they have made to try and I think round out
that staff. I like what he is doing, and I
am optimistic that moving forward he can get that program

(44:40):
back to a point where we're not talking about them
in terms of an offense that is just hamstrung by
a bad system or a bad quarterback or whatever.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
You know.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I think they're going to get better. I think they're
going to get better. I think they're going to get
better quickly. And I just think it was a really
awkward start as an awkward transition year. Now definitely deserves
some of the blame for thinking that they can roll
with the quarterbacks that they had on their sharp chart, right,
thinking they can roll with Alex Orgie or Davis Warren

(45:11):
or Jack Tuttle, thinking that they had enough there. That's
on Sharon Moore, that's on the offensive staff. But this
this strikes me at least as somebody who may be
recognized at some point midway through the year that they
needed to change and has since been working diligently to
try and change it. I would say it almost feels

(45:33):
like you've you've always had a soft spot for Sharon
Moore and then found out Sharon Moore got a huge inheritance,
and now you're just like, oh, I don't know. Maybe
we could see if there's something there that there's an
infusion of cash in the Charon romance, give love a chance.
If Sharon Mooy's you're coming off a little bit like
a gold digger here a little bit?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Okay, Well, I mean if Larry Ellison's coming to the table,
I can see. My next item is Notre Dame fans
positive that people now think they're cool. I love this.
I love that it wasn't just you, it was Notre
Dame fans in general. Be like, hey, guys, we're pretty

(46:14):
cool now. I don't know if you noticed, but we
have a coach who's under fifty and we're not as
unlikable on the sideline, and so we're pretty where's.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
The tight white pants. Don't forget the tightwhears, tight white pants.
Our fans talk about our coaches pants a lot. We're
pretty cool. And meanwhile, every single Notre Dame broadcast like
starts out with the year. It was nineteen forty two.
Frank Lay's mind was overseas and the conflict in Europe
but he thought to himself, and then we're like, yeah,

(46:43):
it's Notre Dame. We don't have the rights to that.
Stop humming. So I appreciate that. But yeah, you do
tune in, tune into NBC and there is they're like no, no, right,
right right rah.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
So I appreciate it that that Notre Dame fans took
a nice delusional step forward in twenty twenty four. Notre
Dame football excellent, really good, very strong on both sides
of the ball, difficult team to be, had a sensational season.
But also, let's let's not go too crazy. All right,

(47:19):
let's go let's not go too crazy.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I agree with that, but yeah, but counterpoint, yes, yes,
I cannot tell you in my one of my my
late thirties now, in my thirty plus years of being
a Notre Dame football fan, yeah, and in my thirty
plus years of having in some cases the same group
of friends, all of whom hated Notre Dame. Yeah, never

(47:43):
before can I ever remember conversations with that same group
of friends was agnostic on Notre Dame. That's a direct quote,
a direct quote. I cannot tell you how big of
an upgrade that is. Okay, as compared to previous conversations
right where it was the full kitchen sink of anti

(48:03):
Notre Dame stuff come in my way. It's an easy schedule.
It's I mean, truly ran the gamut of reasons to
hate the Irish to hear some of my very close
childhood friends talking through now why they're agnostic on Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I don't think that's likely to change. Mm hmm. That
is an upgrade, now, are they cool? Maybe that's a
bit of a stretch, right, is this a one year thing?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Perhaps it's sort of like the show Queer Eye for
the Straight Guy Tye. Remember that show I do where
it's like day one and they get a haircut and
they're like it's a new meme, Like.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Well, there's some more work.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
It's a lot of board games in that living room.
Shout out to people who like board games. I am
one of those people. I like board games. But you
can't have the whole identity be board games.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Why do we have eight boxes? Part cheesy back here?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
So many more than eight? Yeah, so there is They're like, yes,
things are improved, there is there is something more modern
that now that you own a.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Charcouterie board or whatever.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
But I don't know. There's a lot of baggage there,
that's all.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I have a bunch of media items. Oh dude, I
have more football stuff. Do you do the football stuff?
I can close out with my weird media stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I'm not giving up on. Similarly to how I feel
about Avery Johnson, I'm not giving up on Nico. I'm
doubling down.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Ty.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I know the season did not end crazy well in Columbus. Oh,
but it wasn't his fault. It wasn't not his fault.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
I don't think it was his fault.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
I think, you know, obviously the Tennessee defense was not
prepared for Ohio States and the ceiling and the firepower.
But he also at times, the only thing that was
working for Tennessee, I guess was Nico's legs. Yeah, but
even still, I mean, the loss had Arkansas like it
wasn't like an arrival of Nico in the way that
I thought it would be.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
But I think it's been relative to expectations a bit underwhelming. Yes,
And I say that not to take anything away from Nico,
because I still think he is legit. I still think
he is as advertised, but for a whole multitude of reasons.
It just hasn't landed quite like we expected, at least
not as not as quickly as we expected.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I have Brett Bilima potst. I love it. I love that,
you know, he and Lane Kiff and go back and forth.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
A little bit. I love all of that mega.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I love having that in our livestrol. Brett Bilima, Yeah,
I have here. I have like very specific like style
things that I just continue to love in the sport,
Tulane just in general, the wave, the helmets, the light
blue uniforms. I have the SMU Big D branding. Anytime
I see that Settle tie Settle, I just appreciate that

(51:02):
I mentioned Oregon Pain. Look, Oregon's in a wonderful place
in this sport with regard to nil and money, and
you know, they're just in a great place. I have
a lot of Oregon Pain memories in my life, and
I'm sticking through ty So I still love that LSU's
white helmet. I have Williams Bryce down here.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, And I love and this is more general to
football and potential. I love the idea, the continued idea
of and maybe this goes with our like wild card
entanglement that we talked about agent of chaos Mississippi State
that they have hired very specific coaches in Mike Leach

(51:48):
and Dan Mullen and now Jeff Levy, who are considered
to be very specific offensive minds that are going to
be tasked with both finding high level players locally and
also perhaps players who are slept on to run offenses
that are going to give the more advantage. Programs in
the SEC fits and upset them sometimes and maybe even

(52:10):
peaks like an eight, nine to ten win program. So
the idea of that in Starkville is something that I'm
always going to come back to. And I think Jeff Levy,
pending what he's able to continue to do in the
portal and on the trail, there is something that I
just can't quit about that idea, even knowing it's a.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Wild card tie.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I mean, if Mississippi State wins ten games, Jeff Levy's
getting his own show next year.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I'm just saying as a program they have that like
random season ceiling. I don't know if that exists in
the new look SEC. And sure how difficult it is
now to you keep a roster together and you know
the things that come with being a Mississippi state. But
even still I have that down as a thing I
love and even last year losing games, in losing efforts,
they were an agent of chaos.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
They were interesting. The record wasn't there. They were a
bad team at the end of the day, but they
were interesting. I love the idea of the Van Buren boys.
I thought Michael van Bura was really good. He was
a fun wal gone he left go on else you
that part sucks, But if they can find more guys
like that, perhaps the agent of chaos.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Thing can continue.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I have and this is an unfortunate part of love
and romance, especially in the digital era. You have to
deal with stalkers, right, You have to deal with people
who are invasive and annoying and going too far. And
so because that is an element to romance. In twenty
twenty five, I have down here Penn State holding truthers.

(53:46):
I contacted Abdulla Carter's fifth grade teacher in her DMS.
She agrees with me. She may have blocked me, but
shout out missus Abner.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
He got help.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
But every play, though every play, you don't need to
do the voice he got. He got held on every play.
Oregon held him every play in the Big Ten title game.
Every play, so say every play, Oh love hurts ty.

(54:16):
If you guys knew how to block, maybe you wouldn't
have lost Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
That's true. That wasn't the issue against State.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
This is true.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
We don't need to bring.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Up old s breakups.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
But uh, he was held on literally every play. And
it's in every sport, right, it's strike zone truthers, it
is holding truthers. It is traveling in the NBA, which
is like, yes, listen, listen. Some things don't get called.
Some it happens. Penn State has a history of more

(54:51):
problematic truthers. I can say that as a Penn State
this is not one of them. Okay, he was held
on every play.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
What about the plays where he got to the quarterback
and sacked the quarterback?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Was that?

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Okay? That was problem? That was perfect?

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, I just it was a It was a nice
new and every you know, we get this every year
with teams and fans, but this year was Penn State
holding truthers, and that's what we had.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
You got anything else because I have weird media once
anything else? I think I have the Dion experience down.
Oh yeah, absolutely, I love the having and now the
fascination of the Deon experience moving forward with fewer Sanders
is I think that's it?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Those are I have LSU's white helmet down and williams
Bryce Okay, as things I just year over year, I
just continue to love.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
All Right, what do I have here?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
I have Chris Simms's obsession with the top button?

Speaker 1 (55:48):
What is that? Oh?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
He goes all the way to the top, even when
all the way tie.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
I don't understand it. It's one of those things, much
like the two mouthpiece trend.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
He's the only and media I can think of who
does this, and he also desperately needs a cowboy hat
or something to kind of like at least better explain
it to the home viewer. Yes, if that's what you're into,
he owns it. I give him props for that. I
just don't understand it. I don't get it. It deserves,
but it deserves at least a little bit of a

(56:19):
Valentine You love your confusion about it?

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah, I do, I do.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
You're giving you're paying homage. There's also something this is
very specific and I don't know why we're talking about it.
But it reminds me when I think about Chris Sims.
I think about this where there's a very popular kind
of haircut where you fade up, you shave the sides
and fade up, and there is a point of no return.
Tim Tebow has also reached this point with his haircut

(56:45):
where it goes from cool and sleek to borderline fascist.
Right like, there's it's the Tebow zone, the Chris simszone,
the Dan Orlovsky zone where you're just like good looking haircut,
you want to about a quarter of an inch too
far and it's a little like Grainy World at war footage.

(57:07):
It's a half inch we went too far, guys, And
I think about that with Chris Sims. Continue you'rer next item.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Yeah, Chris Sims and the fashion thing. I don't Pete Nacos.
I have Pete NACo's here from on three. Okay, I
I don't have tweet alerts set up for Pete, but
I appreciate the fine work that Pete does. I don't
know if Pete liscons of the show. I see you
like some of our stuff, but.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Hey, he's a big new news breaker.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
He does a really good job.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Okay, I love his on three like transfer portal coverage,
and I stand by, I stand good for if he
ever comes on the show. We need to come up
with a name for like the Pete drops. My understanding
is that Andy and Ari have already tried to do that.
We're better at it.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Pete.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Don't don't listen to them. We are better. We're better
at coming with the branding thing. I love those guys,
you know. I love those guys to be like nay
palm right now, that's got negative connotation. I agree, we'll
come up with something better, But come on the show.
We'll give we'll rebrand you. But thank you for the
work that you do.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
You do a good job. I have.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
This is another one of these things. I just have
things on here that confuse me as well as you know. Okay,
I'm a curious person in my late thirties. I have
the TNT playoff pregame show.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Mmm, you loved it. I don't know what it was.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Okay, so now remember this TNT and TBS and just
let's just say Turner. They sub licensed two of the
playoff games from ESPN. They got the Penn State SMU
home game and they also got the Who Was at
Texas Clemson game.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
M hm, they got those two games. Yeah, that sounds right.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
You would think that in purchasing the rights to those
games that there would be more of an emphasis on
like shoulder content, I think is what it's called, like
the pregame show, the halftime show of the postgame show.
They had two games that were back to back, it
would have been very easy for.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Them to do.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
So they did have the pregame show live from Beaver Stadium,
which was Adam Lefko is very good, alongside Champ Bailey,
Takio Spikes, and Victor Cruz.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yep. It was an hour.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
It started at eleven am Eastern time. The game kicked
off at noon. It was cold as hell, very cold.
They were all freezing. And so my expectation would be
that if you're going to have that game or that
pregame slot that then there would be like a halftime
thing that goes with it, right, maybe a postgame thing
that goes with it, and maybe like a natural transition

(59:51):
from the turner side into the next game which immediately followed.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yes, Nope, nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
It was one hour and then it disappeared from the
face of the earth. The halftime show went to ESPN,
the pregame show for the next game also went to ESPN,
and all the postgame content went to ESPN. Yeah, I
have no idea what the plan was for that. To
put those guys in that setting, which was freezing cold

(01:00:20):
for one hour, and then for TNT and TBS and
Turner as a whole to disappear from all things playoff
was a choice that I still don't understand, and I
am giving them my Valentine as such.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Well, did you want Kenny Smith to be recapping Texas Clemson?
The just have limited number of people to talk about
college football.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
I understand that, But if they were willing to put
a pregame show out there, why not a halftime show?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Why not a postgame show?

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
They if they took the liberty of building a set
inside Beaver Stadium, I believe for this, and then we
got nothing more out of it outside of that hour.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Just do it from the studio or don't do it
at all? What's the point.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
I love the fact that they took a very half
hearted attempt at this and then it just disappeared. And
I haven't heard Heide nor hair about it since.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Okay, continue I have this year's quarterback draft class.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Stretching my legs a little bit with respect to college football.
But I feel like it's going to be something that
deserves all of our Valentines over the next couple months,
because we are going to hear, frankly, some very weird things, Okay,
very weird things. I think there is a consensus that
both cam Ward and Shador Sanders deserve to be in
that top three. But who comes after? Who comes after

(01:01:37):
that top two, I should say, is really anyone's guests.
There are people like me who are really in on
Jackson Dart. There are others who I believe are hitching
their wagon to Jalen Milroe because of raw potential. Quinnyewers
is also a name. It would not surprise me if
you hear any garden variety of other quarterback listed in

(01:01:57):
that QB three slot, and it's to come from people
who have not watched a whole lot of college.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Football through and through right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I am eagerly awaiting all of that content, not just
because my team stands to get QB three. Whoever it is, okay,
but that is something that's a preemptive Valentine, something that
I am expecting to be notable over the next couple
months that I certainly will fall in love with and
admire through and through because I just think it's gonna

(01:02:27):
be weird.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I can appreciate this year's quarterback class because there's no
seemingly obvious like, oh yeah, this guy has just been
since day one, he's the guy, right, So there's no like,
clearly obvious turnkey quarterback. So I'm going to equate this
year's first round of the NFL Draft and team searching
for quarterbacks including I guess You're New York Giants to

(01:02:50):
being at a restaurant and having the great fortune to
be able to evesdrop a couple, evesdrop on a couple
breaking up. Yeah, you're just like, ooh man, he just
dropped Josh Rosen this conversation. So right, this was the
twenty eighteen draft. I was like, gave us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
I was so in on Josh Rosen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Josh Rosen, Sam Donald obviously didn't work out in his
initial stop, and who else was in that. I think
it was a Josh Allen draft, which obviously the MVP
worked out swimmingly, but those years. I think it was
the next year where the Giants took Daniel Jones in
the top ten, where you're just like, I'm not a
Giants fan, but man, I see where this is going,
and I'm just glad I get to eat my veal

(01:03:28):
pharmesan next to this couple.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Great. That was a big draft. That was Baker.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Baker Mayfield obviously didn't work out for the Browns, but one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Two that year up to the Giants. Donald went three.
Mm hmmm, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Lamar went thirty two. Great job, NFL Lamar, great job.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
So there's like the inexplicable quarterback draft. I always appreciate
watching from Afar.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Josh Rosen in that draft, Dan tenth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Overall, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Yeah to the Cardinals, unbelievab didn't work out, didn't work out? Okay, uh,
that does it right? In Soli verbogmail dot com, let
us know who we missed. Who you're giving your Valentine
two for whatever reason could be confusing as somewhere for me,
it can just be like raw unfettered passion. Whatever you're into.

(01:04:25):
Soliverbogmail dot com. Hit us up on social media. We
would love to get your opinion. If you've got the
ability to comment either out on YouTube, Spotify, and some
of the other podcast platforms.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
We would love to hear it. There is what we
read all of those comments.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Do you know who the final quarterback who is taking?
You don't obviously, who has taken in that year's draft?

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
The final quarterback taken in that twenty eighteen drafts? I
know because I'm looking at it right now, But I
wouldn't have known if I weren't looking for it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Is it John Wolford?

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
I believe it's Logan Woodside.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Logan Woodside? Was Wolford drafted?

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Wolford the Wolford Wagon?

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Yeah, I oh yeah, Logan Woodside, Toledo.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
There it is?

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Yeah, that was That was in the in the seventh round.
There were a bunch of quarterbacks that went Danny Ettling,
our boy was drafted out of LSU.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Who else is?

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Those are Wolford was undrafted?

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Okay, the Wolford Wagon, Yeah, Wogan Woodside.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Who else we got here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
In that year's draft? Which other quarter is Alex McGough,
Luke Fock to the Titans.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Oh my god? Who else we got here?

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Mike White? Mike Whites made some money.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Rack Whites made some money. Tanner Lee Sure from Nebraska
was drafted in the sixth round that year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
And Mason Rudolph in the third round. He had a
moment with the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
He's still in the league, is it he? I think so?

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Lamar Jackson thirty two, What are you okay? That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
On that note, Happy Valentine's Day to you as well.
If it's something that you celebrate, If your cynical and
go Singles Awareness Day like I didn't college, good on
you as well. Whatever you are into this Friday, we
support it provided it's legal. For that guy over there,
my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for my self, Tie hilden Brand,
as always, hit follow, hit subscribe. Thank you for your

(01:06:14):
undying support for all the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Love we felt this season. Stay solid, Peace,

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