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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the solid verbal holl that for me. I'm
a man, I'm for it.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I've heard so many players say, well, I want to
be happy. You want to be happy for a day?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Edith State is that?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Whoo whoo?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
And them and tie Dan Robstein.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Let's do it. Let's talk Oklahoma. I would love to
talk Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Want to talk some Oklahoma football today with you with
a friend Eddie Redosovich from over at Sooner Scoop. We
had Eddie on back in twenty twenty three. It was
a lively conversation about where the Sooners were at. Things
have changed since then, at least in some regard. We
will go into that and much much more. I'm excited
to continue whatever we're calling this series. I don't think
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we ever really came up with the name for it.
But let's just get a vibe check on Oklahoma. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I am thrilled to take a vibe check on Oklahoma
because they have been fascinating under bread Venables. There have
been incredible highs' not even last year, like destroying Alabama.
All during the complexion of the College Football Playoff. I mean,
you could argue Vanderbilt, you could argue Oklahoma whatever in
the way that they did that joining the SEC and
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then negatively affecting the perception of the SEC via playoff
at large bids. In year one, recruiting like they have,
they've i think arguably the best like tackle duo incoming
twenty twenty five class. I think the number one MICHAELSUSI
I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly, bringing in
arguably the best transfer portal quarterback and John Mattier, I mean,
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Carson Beck. I'm sure, Nico, I'm sure had they have
some arguments here, of course, but one of the more
high profiles. Certainly they're fascinating and I hope for the
sake of my own personal pleasure that they're playing in
closer games, winning games, entertaining games more often than they
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were last season. That was a tough Red River Watch tie. Yes,
it just it's just not fun when Oklahoma isn't just
hanging with the big boys or beating the big boys.
So I'm excited to learn more, to talk more, and
to pick Eddie's brain.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, I think we've already established that were material girls
here on this show. Of course, into the John Mattier transfer.
We're excited to see what he brings with him to Norman.
But it's not just him, it's Jade not it's been
our Buckle who comes down with Mateir from Wazoo. There
were some other hires I think of note that maybe
we can get into with Eddie. Notably, they hired a
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GM Jim Naggy, formerly the executive director of the Senior Bowl.
Also notably had that opinion that floated around on social media,
the one that caused the take quick, I think you
know which one. I mean that there should be more
SEC teams in the playoff because they have more NFL
draft prospects.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Right, Well, I remember there was a certain discourse. Yes,
don't remember it was Naggy. I don't remember who it
was that was. That was Jim Naggy, Yeah, well was it.
But what I'm about to say is I think it
was Todd mc shaye. But maybe I'm attributing this incorrectly,
that like NFL scouts should have an ability to weigh
in on who is in the College Football Playoff based
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on their experience evaluating talent. That was If it wasn't
Timing Shay, I apologize profusely. It was somebody that sort
of has dip toes into both worlds. That was, like, guys,
let's lean on these random outside experts. Yeah, it was
to determine the competitive balance of a different sport.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
It was a holiday on social media, to say the least. Anyway,
this is getting a little too far Afield. We are
excited to talk Oklahoma with our friend Eddie. It's been
too long, so good to get his insight and we'll
figure out what the vibes are in and around the
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Speaker 2 (04:27):
Absolutely, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
All right, Dan, let's talk some Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Let's bring on our good friend from Soonerscoop dot com,
Edi Redosovich.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Welcome back to the show, my friend. How are you, gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I'm doing well. A lot of tension around these parts
with Oklahoma City being down one right now. In the series,
freak football went pretty well, so you fans are kind
of the hypes building and creating and back into the
back end of August. So softball carries everybody around these
parts of the time of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's a long series. It's a long series. There's a
lot of good players. Were Wallace heads over here on
the solid verbal We're good to go. Absolutely, I've never
heard that name in his life. Never was it was scary, tough, Okay, wonderful.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, hey, welcome back. I know you're fresh off a
trip to Mexico. Maybe we can get into that a
little bit later, because you know, these conversations here on
our show they tend to veer into that territory. But
I did put out on our Discord and Patreon that
you were stopping by take some questions from the verballerhood.
People who were interested in just knowing a little bit
more about Oklahoma and got a bunch of questions about
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Brent Venables. So bear in mind I asked this question
not trying to be disrespectful, that is not my intention,
but we had a bunch of questions centered around this whole,
this whole idea of hey, is Brent Venables actually getting
better at this or not? What is your take on
Brent Venables coach at Oklahoma? Where is where is he
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at in sort of his evolution?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Unbelievable coach. I think that that goes without saying everything
that he's done on the defensive side of the fold, well,
and just what you look at what Oklhoma has done
on their defensive side of the football since he's taken over.
It's incredible. It's kind of a remarkable turnaround in what
they've been able to accomplish. You know, Danny Stuft's Bibilly
Bowman getting drafted this past draft about a couple of
weeks ago. It's been incredible, but obviously on the field
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has been awful. And six and seven around here for
one year, let alone two of the last three years,
usually puts coach on the hot seat. And I think that,
you know, the hire of Jim Nagy into the front
office has certainly kind of been the key shifting point
in everything that Brent Bevinnables has done or what he's
been I think kind of uncomfortable to do. And as
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they make this move into the front office, it's almost
kind of given everybody a little bit of a I
don't want to say a second life, but certainly maybe
a little bit more runway than people thought they were
going to have going into this twenty twenty five season
and knowing how important it is for brenton this staff,
so you go out, you get Ben Rbuckle. Obviously, the
promotion of Seth Latrell it was awful. I mean, it
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was one of the worst offenses that oklanmost put on
a football field in the modern era of the program.
And you know, to give Ben Rbuckle, didn't they get Jametier,
then they get Jade and not with the help of
Jim Naggy. That was kind of Jim Naggy's first big
home run get for Oklahoma and the portal. It feels
different around here, and for a team that's coming off
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of a six and seven season again, another disappointing season
and an incredibly disappointing first run in the SEC that
there had been so much built up around it, it's
kind of weird to say that there's a lot of
positive momentum. I think that, like we sit around here
at the Sooner Scoop offices and kind of joke like
things are going too well right now. And obviously they're
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not playing any games, so maybe that's a part of it.
But it does seem like Brent's getting things down, he's
learning from past experiences and maybe getting out of his
way a little bit. And with that said, you know,
naming himself the defensive coordinator. I remember talking to some
of the players back during the spring, right after it
all went down with Zach Ally after the Bowl game
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in January, and I guess it would have been December,
and you know, I think a lot of them were
just kind of like, yeah, he's been the defensive coordinator
for a long time, and that's probably why Zach Ally
is now in Morgantown. So, you know, I do think
he's getting better, but at the same time, he's going
to be judged on what they do thirteen times this fall,
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and obviously, if it's not you know, anywhere in terms
of progression moving in the right direction, then I think
there are going to have to be some tough decisions
made by the administration and the border regents. But for
right now, for a guy that's coming off of two
six and seven seasons with the ten wins season in between,
things are going pretty damn well for Brent.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
You gave me a perfect segue because one of the
things that I have noticed just from you know, personally
following Marcus Freeman and his evolution, and I guess this
is true of a lot of new coaches, first time coaches,
certainly the more successful ones, but it does seem as
if there is a specific moment, a turning point of sorts,
where they just sort of decide to be fully cutthroat,
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you know, And I think that happened last offseason for Freeman.
My question was actually going to be, even before you
mentioned what you just said, do you think we are
seeing that shift now with how Brent Venables has handled
this offseason?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think a little bit. And you know, I would
probably just point to the higher of Ben or Bubble,
because I think that was a not an unusual move
by any means, because he was so well respected. What
he had been able to do at Washington State and
going all the way back to camp Ward and obviously
John Mattier's progression last year in Pullman. I think it
was kind of one of those highers that I was like, damn, Okay,
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that's something that I didn't see coming, just in terms
of him stepping out of the comfort zone a little bit.
There's a lot of Oklahoma former Oklahoma players on staff.
There was a lot of holdovers on the offensive side
of the football, and you know, I think for the
most part now Bill beatam Bow and demarc Murray, Jo
John Finley, those are the only three guys that, you know,
we're really a part of that other portion of the
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program when Brent took over. So uh yeah, I think
so there might also be just a realization that shit's
got to change. He's probably not going to have a
job in a couple of years. So I like what
they've been able to do. Just being around Ben Arbuckle
a couple of times this spring and hearing the players
talk about him, hearing how the Okahama offense has made progressions.
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With John Mattier, it seems like that's a really comfortable
setting for all of those guys, and especially being able
to come in and usher in a new offense, have
those guys kind of as a coach on the field
with Metier, and then obviously ben Arbuckle, being a younger guy,
you know, I think has really kind of ingratiated himself
with the current players. And it's gonna be really interesting
to see what they can be offensively, because I think
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there's a lot of people that think they're going to
be pretty damn good defensively this year, and if they
can just be moderately better the offensively, you know, I
think that they'd probably have a couple more wins than
they had last year, and obviously a couple of the
embarrassing losses that they had, you know, particularly the one
up in Columbia where you up seven and then you
lose by seven irregulation, which is still incredible to me.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
What do you expect the offense to look like? How
much is it a Brent Venables vision that our Buckle
is executing? Is I mean, obviously, John Metier comes in.
I think he rushed for a thousand yards, He threw
I think thirty or so touchdown passes. He was efficient,
It wasn't a huge downfield offense. And I don't even
know if Oklahoma has the pieces to be a huge
downfield offense. What is like a clearly more successful offense
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to you given this new personnel grouping.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, this is I think it's basically been Hey, Ben Arbuckle,
no pressure. I know you're twenty nine years old, but
here's the keys and basically my tenure at Oklahoma of
this time better. And you know, I think that last
year because of the moves that they made with Seth Latrell,
he put him in a put himself in a position
when he had to make the an interim higher with
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Joe John Finley for the back end of the season
that I do think the Brent kind of meddled within
the offense a little bit, and he's a defensive guy.
And I think that Ben Rbuckle has been able to
come in from day one and said this is our offense,
this is what we're gonna do. And I think there's
a lot of excitement around It's it's a completely brand
new offense. When you look at some of the pieces
that are in place, you know, Joel Frupe, Nick Anderson
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Aer gone, JJ Hester's gone, Von Mitchell at tight end
who's former Five Stars now at Louisville. Gavin Sawchuk just
went to Florida State. There's gonna be a ton of
new faces, but the guys that they did go out
and get it's gonna be really kind of exciting. And
I think the Jometier definitely not making the comparison to
Baker Mayfield. I know it's kind of cliche, it's kind
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of easy, but he does have that personality off the
field that reminds a lot of us of Baker and
I think it probably has a little bit to do
with him growing up down in Texas in little kind
of I guess similarity, not similar to Austin, but you
get the idea, and I think that the dude's just
a winner. It's going to be kind of fun to
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see the pieces that they put around him going out
and getting Jay Not, who was a guy that even
before the portal opened, there were people that were, you know,
kind of indicating that they're going to go try to
get a home run guy. And that's something that Oklahoma
hasn't had in the backfield in a while, which is
really kind of surprising, especially after Gavin Sawchuk and Javonte
Barnes burst onto the scene two years ago on Brent's
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first year in the Cheeze Of Bowl. Both had one
hundred yard games down there against Florida State, who obviously
turned it around the next year. It will be kind
of fun, but the wide receiver unit was as injured
and just maligned as you could possibly be. Last year.
They were basically down their top seven wide receivers. It
added to the problems that Jackson Arnold had in connecting
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with some of those guys early in the season, and
it kind of led to an offense that obviously lost
confidence within a quarterback when he got benched, and you know,
kind of the rest was history. So I think more
than anything, it's just a brand new blank slate for
a bunch of guys. And you know, I think that
because some of those injuries a year ago wide receiver,
you had to play a bunch of true freshmen. And
I know they're excited about Zion Kearney. Last year. You
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probably wouldn't know it because of his numbers, but I
think that they are hoping that you look back on
that freshman experience and say, well, it sucked to go
through that, but because you got that experience. You were
a better player in your second season in Norman. So
they did go out. They were very active in the portal.
Jovanni Gibson was a guy that was kind of under
the radar. They brought him in from Arkansas hind Bluff.
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He actually broke his basically his foot in the third
to last practice the spring, and he was having an
unbelievable camp. Isaiah Setanias coming in from Arkansas, It's going
to be kind of fun to see him be a
downfield threat for Oklahoma. He did a little bit of that,
and he brings some sec experience, and even a guy
like Keiantes Lewis, he's a veteran guy coming in from
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southern Illinois that Oklahoma really hopes that they They kind
of took a different approach. Instead of going out and
spending two three million dollars in the portal on one
wide receiver, they tried to get a couple of the
guys that they felt like they had evaluated really well
are going to be able to come in and help
an offense that was just extremely miserable. So to answer
your question, I mean, the bar is set so low
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for a Oblaholm that would just be better offensively that Uh,
you know, they really don't have to do much, and
I think they're at it in the right direction. It's
gonna it's gonna help that they have a much better
offensive line though this season, Eddie, it's.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Been well established at the offense.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Last year was not up to bar I think we
I think that's putting it mildly if you are, if
you are making a pie chart of blame for that
last season, what gets the biggest slice? Because you got options, right,
You've got a line that wasn't very good, you got
the injuries as you mentioned out wide, Seth Latrell maybe
not the best hire Jackson Arnold. We haven't mentioned him
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at all, but he was kind of broken at spots
throughout the course of last season. What how would you
kind of divvy up the blame.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
With respect to what we saw last season?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's probably like one of those those things. It's like
fifteen percent, fifteen percent, fifteen percent, fifteen percent, fifteen percent
and added all the way up because it obviously it
starts with when Jeff Levy took the Mississippi State job
and they elevate Seth Latrell. Uh, you know, I remember
thinking back at this time last year, I guess a
couple months ago when they were going through spring, and
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I think everybody kind of felt like, Okay, they're just
going to pick up where they left off. Jackson Arnold, Yeah,
he didn't play well in the Al Moble, but he's
a five star. I saw the kid played, you know,
five six times in high school down at Denton Denton Geyer.
I thought he was going to be incredible. But you
go back to the spring, and they never really had
a quarterbacks coach and for a true freshman basically, and
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that's what he was. I know he wasn't a true freshman,
but he had no coach in there. They had nobody
to really kind of lean on, just in terms of development.
And then when you know, as hit the fan, I
think that everything kind of skyrocketed and you had the injuries,
and then you had a freshman quarterback that completely lost
all of his confidence within those first four or five games.
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So I put a little bit at Brent's play. You
obviously put some of the players plate. Jackson Arnold did
not play well and especially in big moments, you know,
I think the Tennessee game was kind of the breaking point.
For a lot of people. You know, obviously the coaching
staff they sat him and then Michael Hawkins Junior ended
up starting down at Auburn. But you know, the players
certainly had a part of it. You know, I would
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say that play calling just in general, with Seth Latrell,
it did it. It just didn't work out. It was
not good. He was trying to blend a little bit
of his offense with what they were doing with Jeff Levy,
because if you remember when they made the higher in
the promotion of Seth Watrell, the one word that kept
coming up was continued, we want to keep everything just
about the same from what it was. And obviously, I
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think there was a lot of people around here that
remember what Seth Watrell was able to do with Mason
Fine down at North Texas, and I think you know,
a lot of us just thought, Okay, yeah, that's good,
that's gonna work out. You have a great quarterback. He's
going to have a great future at Oklahoma. The way
people were talking about Jackson ardal have made you think
he was going to be and I'm part of the problem.
I thought he was going to be one of the
next great generational quarterbacks at Oklahoma that certainly didn't happen.
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So it was a lot of little things that kind
of added up into a volcano that kind of led
to Oklahoma to where they were at that point last
year just miserable.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Was there something about like if you're going to hold
Brent Venables accountable? You mentioned that sort of he had
a vision for the offense a little bit going in
you deal with all these things happening at the same time,
whether it's injuries, whether it's perhaps a slight misevaluation of
Jackson Arnold and juggling the Dylan Gabriel situation. And I
know Dylan Gabriel has talked about that that he was
just sort of ready to move on to the next
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chapter of his life. So I don't know how much
could have been done there. But in terms of roster construction,
you've talked about how like there's new added pop to
this offense via the transfers, via the youth whatever. It's
just still very strange to me that we're in this
place talking about Oklahoma and we're just we're not talking
about an obviously stacked proven receiver room or running back's
room or next quarterback up and like we are with
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Mateira a little bit because he's the most proven of
this group. What what has happened in terms of roster construction,
if anything that we can say Brent Vennables took a
left where he should have made a right.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, it hasn't been good. And I think that a
lot of it kind of folds. You know, let's use
the running back room as an example. I think that,
and we probably should be using the tight end room.
But there's just not a whole lot to talk about.
You talk about John Finley and Norman Oklahoma right now,
people basically say, why he hasn't he been fired yet?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
And he's like that, he's an oh you guy, right,
like the Seth Littrell is an oh you guy and
that right cloud thing sometimes.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
And DeMarco Murray for the same oh you guys. And
if he wasn't DeMarco Murray, which I do think that
you you make some money on that. On the recruiting
trail and people are familiar with the name, there hasn't
been a whole lot of development. And I think that,
you know, Jervonte Barnes is a great example. Gavin Sadjuk
is a great example. Last year. They had injuries, sure,
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but there's also times where you look up and they're
healthy and they're not on the field and they're not
getting carries. So it's been really strange. Like the development
I think is from a running back position. I think
the best running methodical has had here over the last
couple of years of Eric Gray, and they didn't even
recruit him out of high school. He came in from Tennessee.
So jayde Not's going to be really really fascinating because
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I think that, you know, he's basically your starter in
the backfield from day one. They have a kid in
Xavier Robinson who got some carries last year as a freshman.
He's local products up out of Midwest City, just about
twenty five minutes up the road. That's a really good
backfield on paper, and if they can just get some
development from those guys, which kind of falls at the
feet of DeMarco. You know, you look at the wide
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receiver re unit. Nick Anderson was beat up all year
last year. Jolo Ferouke, you know, same kind of situation.
He ran into the injury bug. Any of the guys
that you talk about the wide receiver position when they
were injured, but the freshman Zion Kearney of the world,
they have to take that next step and carry on
to another one of those guys, Zion Ragan's is another
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one of those guys that played last year that you know,
the pressures really kind of on that coaching staff, especially
on the offensive side of the football, to get some development,
get guys that can be some tools that Ben rbuckle
and Jaw Mattier can use, because I think that if
you look at what Ben r Buckle has been able
to do, he's going to get the ball to the
talent and if you can just start there and you
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have a quarterback that has super accurate arm like John
Mattier does, I think that all of a sudden, you're
going to look at an offense that was miserable a
year ago that really takes a massive step this next
season just by executing, just simply by executing the offense
and a lot of times last year with an offensive
line that Oklahoma threw out there which was kind of
irregular under Bill beata Bow For the most part, I
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think he's notoriously known as one of the better offensive
lineman coaches in the country. You should be in better shape.
Last year, there were times where Jackson or where Michael
Hawkins would catch the ball and the play was over
within a second and a half because nobody was blocking
up front.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
What is what in terms of what you're seeing, what
you're hearing internally? How are vibes right? Is there a
sense of positivity that, like we love coach Venables right,
the offensive line loves this, the you know, the safeties
love this. Is there, you know, fellowship, brotherhood, good vibe.
Like you can say that like we're bringing in these
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running backs and these transfers, but if only half the
team wants to be there and is enthusiastic about playing
for the Sooners, you're still not going to get past
six and seven. Do the vibe seem manageable?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's what's made these last three years so kind of
confusing to a certain extent, because I think that you
can make the argument from a culture perspective, from a
program perspective, from a top to bottom within the coaching
staff to the players to the lowest guy on the roster.
It seems like this is maybe one of the better
cultures Oklahoma's had in a long time. And that's even
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going through some of the years where they were extremely
good and playing in college football playoffs and things like that.
So everything off the field has been excellent, and you know,
I think that you know, one of the things you
probably point out if you were on the coaching staff,
or Brent Vinibles would point out is the development of
young men and you know, no trouble off the field
and things like that that you know, it kind of
snuck into the program a little bit under Lincoln that
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you know, were handled there wasn't anything major. But at
the same time, there hasn't been any of that, and
you know, I think that, like the off season has
been one of those times when you cover Oklahoma it's
like you just kind of expect somebody's going to get
a dui or somebody's gonna get into a fight on
campus corner. Stuff like that happens on a college campus
in the summer. But there's been really none of that.
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And I think that that's what makes it so tough
when you talk about Brent Vinnables in the future of
what's to come for Oklahoma is it's purely about on
field performance. And everybody loves Brent. He you know, when
he returned and the welcome that he got at the airport.
That made national headlines and kind of a rejuvenation of
the program. After Lincoln left to go out to Los Angeles,
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it felt like, you know, everybody wants Brent to succeed
around here. Sure, but at the same time, when you
throw out another six and seven and you go down
to the Cotton Bowl and you get embarrassed to Texas again,
and on top of Texas now playing in two consecutive
college football semi finals and then the embarrassment that comes
with the SEC, it makes twenty twenty five extremely important
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for this program moving forward. And you know, I think
that there are some good vibes within the program, as
I told you guys earlier, like almost kind of strangely positive,
even more positive than it probably needs to be, because
you are coming off of what you are the last
three years, so everything like that's great, which makes it
even more kind of confusing and hard to have the
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print Vitable's conversation. If they have to get to that
point at the end of the season, I think.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know, it's an easy transition because you know, I
think everybody needs to take care of their own house
before looking around the neighborhood. You're in a new neighborhood
as an Oklahoma person, and obviously, you know, offense has
been the name of the game in terms of remodeling
and upgrading. When you look around the SEC, when you
look at this year's schedule, when you'd get a sense
for not just Texas, but obviously Texas measures itself against
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Oklahoma and vice versa. What sense do you get when
you measure up where Oklahoma is in every facet in roster, construction,
and coaching staff in environments. This is post first year
in the SEC. Oklahoma always stacked up well against the
Big Twelve. Where is the stack right now with Oklahoma
and the SEC?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I think it has the passion to get there. But
I do think that, you know, with everything that built
up over the three years that led up into Oklahoma
formally making the you know, debut, I guess in the SEC,
I think there was a lot of people around here
that thought that, you know, Oklahoma's going to just step
in and be able to compete like they had in
the Big Twelve. And to a certain extent, I think
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Oklahoma became a mad kind of a victim of their
own success in a way. I think a lot of
people within the athletic department, within the coach, or within
the football offices had just kind of become used to
this idea that they were going to be able to
I don't want to say just show up and win,
but that's certainly what they did for a good two
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decades in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Show up and belong right.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, Yeah, And I think last year was a little
bit of an eye opener in terms of when you
go down to Auburn and Auburn hasn't had a ton
of success, it feels like they're headed in the right
direction under Hugh Freeze. Makes it kind of interesting with
the Jackson Arnold situation down there now with them come
to Norman next year. But I think even like one
of those trips was kind of an eye opener and Okay,
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this is really kind of different, and it was something
that Oklahoma fans I kind of mocked to a certain
extent of, Oh, it just means more of these people.
I mean, they're flat out crazy, and I think that
Oklahoma fans they feel like they are on par with that.
But at the same time, I do think that there
are things that Oklahoma probably has had to look in
the mirror a little bit, have some of those tough conversations,
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and you know, at the end of the day, I
think it's all headed in the right direction. It's it's
going to just be tough. When you look at the
twenty twenty five football schedule and you know, any type
of metric that you put on it, it's going to
be one of the toughest, one of the toughest schedules
in the in the country, and especially when you throw
in Michigan in Week two. So it's it's super super
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interesting right now within the Oklahoma football program because you
do talk about the culture, you do talk about, you know,
the positivity on the offensive side of the football, meeting
what people believe to be another really good defense under
Brent and you know, Oklahoma's kind of become that sexy
school of they weren't very good a year ago. Maybe
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they make this major jump. There's pathways to see that.
But I feel like we were kind of in that
same situation a year ago and talking about, yeah, Jackson
and Oklahoma they could surprise the people in the SEC
and then they fell kind of flat on their face.
So there's a lot of people that like the momentum
like the positivity, but we're going to need to be
able to see it come September, and I think you'll
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probably find out rather quickly if Oklahoma can take that
next step, and especially in Week two against Michigan.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
What is the bar that you feel Oklahoma needs to
clear to you know, ward off a fan mutiny.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's real, That's that's a million dollar question. I would
say probably somewhere around nine wins is tough. I would
say eight wins probably everybody feels safe. If you're having
around that seven and six, six and seven, again, you're
going to have just really really incredibly tough questions to ask.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, what about Oklahoma fans? Do they feel like the
move to the SEC was worth it?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I think for the most part, yeah, Because I think
that when you turn on the television and anything everybody
wants to talk about is the Southeastern Conference, then yeah,
when you talk about the fan base that just wants
to be able to show up to work on Monday
and talking about, you know, Oklahoma kick the hell out
of whoever over the weekend, then yeah, I think that
there's some of the Oklahoma fan base, particularly on the
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message boards, that are rather vocal that would have preferred
to stay in the Big Twelve. But at the end
of the day, when you look at where the college
football's headed as a whole, you want to be in
the Big Boys club. And I think that it's probably
for the long term better for Oklahoma as a program
to have made that move, learned some of the tough
lessons that they did a year ago, and really kind
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of have to answer the questions that you probably didn't
have to answer because winning cures all and they were
able to win at such a high level, and particularly
over the last you know, ten to fifteen years, have
the success that they did, particularly on the offensive side
of the football that you know, I think that they
just kind of were put off because almost winning football
games and everybody felt so comfortable about being in the
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Big twelve. So yeah, to answer your question, I think
for the most part, when you look at the schedule,
as tough as it is, but you know LSU's coming
to town, and you know you're going to Alabama. Alabama
came to town last year. You're going back out to
Knoxville where Oklahoma wasn't twenty fifteen, it's exciting. I mean,
I not to just completely bash the Big twelve. But
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it's certainly more exciting than a trip up to Aims
or wherever.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Were there any let's say, notable developments, standout performances, anything
of that nature from guys this spring that really caught
your attention that we should be aware of.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, I mean, Geovanni Gibson really was making a lot
of noise, and he was a guy that I think
when you look at the measurables about sixty three one
ninety ish, he was a guy that I think that
they had kind of felt like they found a diamond
under the rough and it was really kind of a
gut punch, and especially at that wide receiver position that
we talked about that had so many injuries a year ago,
thinking oh boy, here we go again. I think they
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feel like he could come back maybe by October, maybe
by Texas week in the second weekend of October. I
think that's probably best case scenario. He had made some waves. Obviously,
John Mattier in the way that he stepped in made
some ways. But when you look at the defensive side
of the ball, I think that you kind of start
with Kendall Daniels coming in from Oklahoma State kind of
(31:18):
a perfect Cheetah for what they want to be able
to do. His versatility and being able to play safety
or come down and you know, cover guys in the slot.
I think is going to be kind of fun to watch.
I know that when we talked to Wes Goodwin, who
came over from Clemson and coached Isaiah Simmons alongside Brent
at Clemson, they're really really excited about what he's been
able to do in the defense. Danny Akoye is a
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guy that was actually kind of a fun story. He
was a homeschool kid out of the Tulsa area, was
extremely highly ranked, needed to develop a year ago. They
feel like he could take a big step this season.
And you know, I think you look at the safety group,
Michael Boganowski, Reggie Powers, both guys that they're having to
obviously fill the place of Billy Bowman. They're really excited
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about both those guys, and I think that when you
look at the defensive side of the ball, it's just
it's kind of amazing that everything has just flipped on
a you know, one to eighty basically from where they
were with Lincoln and defensively and obviously generational offenses versus
where they are now with just trying to get a
good offense and a defense. They feel like it could
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really kind of carry to carry them to some major,
major wins next season. So, you know, it's kind of
fun to see what this thing's going to be because
there are so many questions. But when you talk about
the defensive side of the ball, they for the first
time it feels like in a while have some actual
foundation that they'd built here over the first three years.
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And there's a lot of guys within the system that
are looking to make that jump that a lot of
players make in that third year under Brent Venables. So
very excited about the defense to see what it is
despite losing some key contribute from a year ago with
Stotsman and Bowman and Woody Washington. Ethan Downs was a
really productive player for them on at defensive end as well,
So it's kind of night and day difference. And you know,
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Jayden Jackson, obviously as the true freshman last year, what
he was able to do was really really exciting. And
then the whole David Stone drama, a kid that came
in with him from IMG, you know, getting what happened
there by the way, just craziness in twenty twenty five
college football. I think that it was a situation that
he had some people in his corner that wanted him
(33:32):
to you know, for the most part, he's basically taken
a pay cut by coming back to Oklahoma, and I
think that they built in some things like, if you
take these steps, you're gonna beat back to where you
are in il compensation. And I think that you know,
David certainly, I remember it happened on a Friday night,
and we had some people that had talked to people
in his camp and he was in tears about you know,
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just the flat out decision to enter the portal and
then it all kind of culminates on a Sunday night,
you know, forty eight hours later, basically, so there's still
excitement about him. And you know, I think what Todd
Bates has been able to do with the defensive line,
it's kind of remarkable. It's kind of gone quietly that
he's been able to build the defensive line unit that
has some dudes on it that you know, for the
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most part, and especially on the back end of that
Lincoln Riley era in Norman defense was just such an
optional shrug your shoulders thing that they didn't really have
a defensive tackle that you could point to and say, yeah,
that's a guy. Now you at least have three or
four guys on the interior as well as you know,
the guys on the outside, and obviously getting r Mason
Thomas back, you know, there's a lot of people that
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think he could be one of the premier pass rushers
in the country this year. So a lot of excitement
on that side of the football.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
When you look at Oklahoma schedule this year and you
look at perhaps the thing that did actually ail the
defense last year, if you were going to nitpick, it's
they did give up some big passes, right, the explosive
passing plays, you know, as good as the pass rush was,
and they were a wall against the run against the
run last season. When you look at this your schedule,
there's not an obviously deep roster of definitely strong quarterbacks
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that we know of. We'll see, you like with Beau Pribula,
We'll see with Arch Manning, We'll see with whoever Michigan
trots out in week two. We'll see how Jackson Narnold
and Auburn works out. Is there hope that this should
be a secondary and pass rush that works in concert
together better than where they were last season.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, I think so. And you know, when you talk
about the quarterback position, I think a lot of people
going into the spring were going to be kind of
interested when the portal opened if they were going to
be active with any cornerbacks from the portal, and there
were guys in there, but I think that there were
also guys that had a couple of years left. There
was nobody that could come in, give you a year
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and then move out. Because they do feel extremely excited
about some of the young kids in the secondary and
particularly at the quarterback position. Cortland Gilliery was a kid
that came in as a true freshman the Mats of
Waves during the spring. Eli Bowen Peyton Bowen's brother, one
of the other safeties. Eli started as a freshman last
year at cornerback. That feel like he could have a really,
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really nice career at Oklahoma. You know, a guy at
Gentry Williams measurable wise when you look at him out
on the football field, he could be a draftable guy.
Not necessarily a first round or maybe even a Day
two guy, but I think he would definitely be somebody
that could get drafted because of his measurables. There's always
been a lot of hype around him. He hasn't been
able to stay on the field. It's like, yeah, you
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would love to have him out there, but you can't
just trust the idea that he's going to be healthy.
He sat out a little bit of spring. He seems
to be headed in the right direction just from a
health standpoint going into the season. They feel like he's
going to be a starter at one of the positions.
And then Jacoby Johnson's a guy that not a whole
lot of people probably know, but I think that he's
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going to be a guy by the end of next
season that you look at the Oklahoma defense and he's
certainly going to be one of those cornerbacks that I
think people will be talking about a little bit more so. Yeah,
and then the safety group extremely excited about them. Peyton
Bowen is a former five star kid. Robert Spools Jennings
is another guy that has been in the system for
you know, I guess three four years now. So it
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will be very important for them to be able to
defend the past because you look at the Missouri games,
a great example getting beat down the field, and that's
how it kind of sparked everything that happened in the
final two minutes. So they're excited about they're excited about
the pass rush, and they should be a pretty good
marriage here in Brent's fourth year.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Let's stick with I guess a little bit of what
you just said. You've watched Oklahoma offenses. You've watched Oklahoma
defenses near the end of games where you've said they've
got this. You've watched them where you've said to yourself,
there's no way they're getting off the field. There's no
way they're marching down the field down four with three
and a half minutes left and this thing is over.
What is the state of your brain, of the Oklahoma
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fans brain when it comes to late high leverage. You know,
if Oklahoma was losing a bunch of these games comfortably
last year, if they're improving that they're going to find
themselves in fifty to fifty spots on the road at home. Whatever,
where is your confidence that Brenton Vinnables and this staff
obviously Ben Arbuckle as TVD, they're just like, oh, they're
going to be prepared for this moment. They might lose,
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but they're prepared for it. What's the state of that scary?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I mean, they've worn in a whole lot of those
games a year ago, right exactly where they lost. I
think that you know, the late game situations for Oklahoma
and particularly you know, they brought Austin Welchin, a kicker
from Kenesaw State. They had a freshman, Liam Evans, battling
for the job in spring, and that was like one
of the big takeaways going into the portal was they
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got to go get a kicker, and they got Tate
Sandel from utsa really accurate guy, which I don't think
anybody is going to have a problem with. But there
is still a little bit of an unknown just in
terms of all right, when the lights are on, can
you go make a forty two yarder to win a
game in Tuscaloosa? Can you make a forty two yarder
to win a game at Kneeland? So you know, But
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the thing about it is they're gonna be in some
tight games. If they're gonna make this jump from where
people think that they you know, should or what they
were a year ago, you're gonna be playing in type
ball games. So I guess we'll wait to find out,
which is scary to a certain extent because I know that,
you know, one of the things that you could probably
criticize Brent for in the first three years was in
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game coaching, just in terms of the little things, timeouts
and you know, bad penalties, things of that nature. So
you know it hasn't gone well. You would expect it
to be a little bit better this season. And I
think that, you know, just having somebody like a Kevin
Wilson coming back as an analyst, just having somebody that
you can not necessarily just throw everything to, but just
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another ear or another voice in your head. It's not
necessarily a bad thing in this case. And when they
lost Matt Wells a year ago, he went up to
Manhattan to help Chris Climbing on the offensive side of
the ball. I think they did lose something and maybe
that didn't play out or you didn't see that actually
on the school board a year ago because of the
games that they were in there were getting their ass kicked.
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But at the same time, I think that there was
something lost there, and you know it should be it
should be a pretty comfortable position for Brent and for
this staff to be able to kind of build off
of going into this season.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
So you need the grown ups in the room, but
even more importantly, you need the kids in the room
and the best kids. What is, for lack of a
better term, the state of the Oklahoma bag? What is
the state of the bag? How far away are they?
How much room do they need to grow by? If
at all? What is the state of the Scrooge McDuck
(40:42):
vault somewhere in the universe of Oklahoma football got you?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Let me look up the oil prizes real quick. Well,
it's good, I would say, you know, compared to everybody
else in college football, very very good. Exception, you don't
go out and get some of the guys that they did.
You don't go out and get a jo Materier or
a Jade not if you have no money. Right, But
I think when you compare it to Ohio State, or
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you compare it to Texas, obviously they don't have the
type of money that you can just say or call
somebody up and say, hey, we need five million dollars
wired over by the end of Friday and somebody says,
no problem, will take care of it.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Sure, of course, to get held in Brant money that's right, right.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Get to get where Oklahoma wants to be though as
a program and where the fan base thinks that they
should be in that upper rachealon of college football. You
could say that it needs to improve, but you know,
I think that for so long, you know here over
the last couple of years. I wouldn't say for so long,
but over the last couple of years. You know, particularly
in Brent's era where they're thrown out some six and sevens. Uh.
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You know, the Oklahoma is broke, you know, candor or
chatter out on social media. You know, it's out there
so much that I think that there are some people
that think that Oklahoma is broke. I don't think that's
the case. But do they have the money like a
Texas or do they have the money like a an
LSU Even that it sounds like, I know that what
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they put together like ten million dollars in the spring portal.
I don't think that that's the case. But I do
think that they have positioned themselves well. And if you
start winning and you take those steps. It's kind of crazy,
how when you win football games around here, where all
of a sudden, money starrets showing up checks start showing
up in the mail.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I was gonna say, how is the organization behind the
scenes right, because you see a lot of the conflicting
reports and there's multiple collectives. Obviously things are becoming more
official now with the House settlement. Is is everything buttoned
up in the way it should be in terms of
who's making those calls, what's the goal, how's the communication?
Speaker 1 (42:47):
So what?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I guess what's the state of the business of the bag?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, Oklahoma's collective one Oklahoma has. You know, they've kind of,
I guess for the most part, emerged. They're they're the
Oklahoma and I think that they've had some pretty good
leadership over there. It seems like everybody's on the same page.
I know that, you know, not to say that Oklahoma
and Jim Naggy and the front office have been just
completely involved in it, but I do think there's good
(43:13):
communication and what they're wanting to be able to do.
I do think that Oklahoma for a long time, from
an administrative standpoint, under jokes to Gleione, they've been waiting
for the House Settlement and for everything to kind of
become official, and that way, they've been kind of ramping
up their efforts to meet whatever is to come with
the with the court case. So you know, I would
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say it's it's good. I would say that it's moving
in the right direction. But I think, just like anything
else right now, you know, as things turn and as
things change, it seems from day to day or from
month to month, you got to keep up with the Joneses.
And there's still going to be schools out there that
are finding ways to cut corners, and that's just not
really an athletic department that Jobistiglione is run looking to
(43:58):
be able to cut corners, which you know, I think
as things kind of erupted a year ago on the
football side, is when for the first time that I
can remember since he was hired in ninety eight, that
people started looking around and saying, no, wait a second,
what is OK woman doing From an athletic department standpoint,
when you look at you know, the men's basketball program
under Portermosa and they started going through the spells that
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they did in February and are they going to miss
the tournament again? So you know, Joe was definitely under
some fire and definitely under the hot seat for I
think the first time in a long time and for
a lot of people around here, that was, I guess,
in a way kind of tough to accept because they'd
been so successful not just on the football field, but
(44:41):
in so many different areas of the department. So, you know,
if nothing else, I think it definitely woke some people up,
and you know, kind of was either got to adjust
and get up with the times and kind of change
how you're doing things, or maybe you're going to be
looking for a job.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Fair enough, you just got back from Mexico. Final question,
how is Mexico? How is Mexico? How is your time
in Mexico? What was the best thing you ate in Mexico?
Are you recovered from a small, entertaining wedding?
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Not recovered? I the just kind of depressing realization that
four or five days out of the country poolside, drinking
some bases all day. As fun as it sounds, it
takes a toll on this body these days. So sure
it was a great time. They had a couple of
really good restaurants within the resort that we stayed at.
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You had a steak one night that was pretty good.
I know that's not Mexican, but I thought, okay, along
with a glass of wine and it was It was
just a lot of fun, and you know, it's something
that we were kind of joking about. I don't really
take a whole lot of vacations because everything kind of
blends together, from football to basketball to baseball, and then
all of a sudden, we're headed back down to SEC
Media Day. But uh, it was fun to get away
(45:55):
for a couple of days. There was a lot of
happenings on the business side, with one rivals playing Maya
Cob on Wednesday as everything goes down and it's like, well,
of course I'm out on a golf course right now
while everybody's wondering about this massive transaction in college sports.
But it was good to get away for a couple
of days. Now it's a full throttle into the summer.
(46:16):
We've got a couple of like high school football big
round here. Obviously they start out here in a couple
of weeks. Textas already started up, and before you know it,
we're going to be headed down to Atlanta for SEC
Media Days. Which I love how the SEC does everything
because it kind of seems like the NFL in a way,
where there's something every couple weeks throughout the summer, and
it kind of blends together what is normally I don't
(46:39):
want to say boring by any means. I'm a big
baseball guys, so baseball and golf, but it kind of
blends everything together. And you know, the main passion around
here definitely football and ready to get the twenty twenty
five season going.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Can't wait, Eddie Rodosovich obviously sooner scoop dot Com. I'm
almost positive I pronounced that correctly. You guys killed it
absolutely so much.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Tie as a stickler. I watched it before we had
you on.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Last Time, Eddie, this is God's honest truth. I went
around to every podcast I could find you on video
clips that weren't podcasts because I have such a terrible
track record for butchering names that I wanted to get
it right.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
So I'm terrible at it now. I'm terrible at it
to a point where now it's kind of a thing
that I do. I'm so bad at it that I
don't even really try it. When you grow up with
the name Ridosovich, like Richard so many times that just
kind of used to it. But I appreciate it. I
know my mom and dad would be really happy.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, everybody's gonna be at tailgates around campus. Everybody's gonna
know it because we are hammering at hol Right, Eddie,
thank you very much for your time. I guys can't
wait to see how oh you looks this year.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
All right, there we go Dan Oklahoma with Eddie Redosovich
over at Sooner scoop dot Com. Always good touch base
with him. Y talked to Little Golf before we hit
the record button, which is always nice for me. Didn't
have any tennis speak for you, but it's okay. You
just had Bill Connolly on him. Assuming there was a
little bit of that going on before you hit records.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Oh well, Bill and I we text all the time.
We have very esoteric texting tennis conversations that it's just
too boring and specific for the solid verbal. But if
there's interest, happy to do it on Patreo, Happy to
bring Bill on to talk Martak Kostiak whatever. So okay,
Oklahoma football, yeah, tie, Yeah. I cannot stress enough. And
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this was mentioned in a question to him, how strange
it is to tune into an Oklahoma football game, whether
it's Lincoln Riley, whether it's Bob Stoops, whether it's Brent Vnables,
whether it's whoever Bob Stoops coming out of retirement to
briefly coach an allibable, like to watch an offensive roster,
be it besieged by injuries, be it besieged by guys
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just not working out as well as planned and anticipated
to not have full on dudes at offensive skill position.
After the run of what felt like less years of
guy after guy after guy, samajp Ryan, Hollywood Brown, whatever
that it was, remember like, I mean every coach has
done this. For Kenny Dillingham's like, we need a kicker.
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We're doing open tryouts on the field. It felt like
they needed that for a slot receiver. At times, for
a tight end. They're so banged up right right, it's
so banged up. It's you know, it's just guys not
working out and missing stretches of time. It's just like
those rooms were so deep before that they could weather injuries.
And it's been very strange to watch an Oklahoma team.
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They're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, the defense we can
count on. You're like, Oklahoma, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, the
defense is fine. That's not the issue. Like, Okay, So
dealing with Bizarrow Oklahoma these past couple of years has
been different for me. And I'm excited about the possibility
of ballanced Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
Yeah, I mean I'm excited about that possibility. I'm also
a little bit scared two because, as we mentioned, I mean,
schedules still brutal.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's not an easy schedule by any.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
Stretch, right And though I think Eddie's right to point
out that vibes are high right now, vibes are good,
vibes are strong because they brought in, in particular, this
three headed monster of John Mattier, Ben Arbuckle, his coordinator,
and now most recently Ja Not who comes over from
cal to kind of give them a little bit more
pop at quarterback and running back. Certainly, that is reason
(50:30):
to be excited. But you did hear what Eddie said
when I asked him the question about the pie chart.
There were a lot of slices on that pied in.
So I don't know if you can just jump to
the conclusion that adding a few pieces here and there
is going to be enough to kind of override the
other stuff that was wrong last season.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Now.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
I happen to also like Brent Ventnables a lot, and
I do think we have seen an evolution in his
coaching style and the way that he's conducting himself, if
only by going out and getting a GM to help
kind of organize all this stuff behind the scenes. I
do think, to answer my own question, he is getting better,
which is a first time head coach. I think it's
taken a little bit of time. We got to give
him the grace to kind of figure this thing.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Out as he goes along. But I also don't want
to jump too far.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
To conclusions and say that well, just because there are
bigger names coming in that everybody's excited about, we can
just necessarily assume they're going to be better. I don't
see sec you know, I don't know if we can
make that assumption.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
No, And I think there should be a lot of
optimism around John Mattier and Ben Arbuckle. Here's a quick
reading ty A quick polite reading of Washington State's opponents
defensive sp plus from twenty twenty four. So they played
two legitimately decent defenses in Washington and Boise State. Boise
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State a tough playoff team. Boise State gave Oregon all
it could handle. Otherwise, of the FBS teams ninety two,
ninety seventy eight, eighty eight, one oh six, one thirty one,
thirty two, one ten and one hundred. There's a lot
of red. And so I'm not saying and these are
numbers that our opponent adjusted that you know, there was
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they washed the wazoo finish like ninth in the nation
and offensive points per drive. It's gonna be a little different.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
It's gonna be different.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
And look, I mean we didn't I don't think talk
a whole lot about the line. I mentioned it at
some point. It came up here and there. But it's
great to add pieces behind the line, but if the
line doesn't improve, the line never really meshed to the
point that I think we expected. Lastly, I think we
think highly of Bill Binbaugh, the coach, but we just
did not see kind of the lift along the line
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that we expected in the preseason. And I don't know,
I'm just gonna take more of a wait and see approach.
I am excited or still, you know, living in a
material world here in all, I'm going to name the
episode that by the way, but you know, all things
kind of laid out on the table. That's sort of
my biggest point of skepticism with Oklahoma. There there was
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a lot that was wrong, and it just seems like
a lot in one off season to fix all of it,
and especially knowing that you've got so many pressure points
on this SEC schedule. I don't know, I'll steal your word.
It's fascinating. It's very fascinating to see which direction this
all heads.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
So all I have look.
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the talking about teams, talking about national stories. I think
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We did it two years ago.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Was it a May show that we did. I don't
know how month we did. It was later in the summer, yeah,
it was. It was late May, early June that we
did Sark Tank.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
So okay, I've started putting that together, It's gonna be
bigger and better than it was the last time. I
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There which mediocre impression did I do?
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Was it?
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All right? Can't wait?
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