Postseason Mailbag

Ty and Dan take a deep dive into an overflowing mailbag and tackle the important issues, like college football's postseason system, the inevitability of blue blooded programs, the allure of being "just a coach away", and more. Plus, foreign language marriage proposals, dogs in beds, and other pertinent topics.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the solid Verbo. I'll that for me. I'm
a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
I want to be happy. You want to be happy
for Dake Edith State? Is that woo woom? And Dan
and Tye.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
My name is ty Hill, the brand joining me as all.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's over there in beautiful, albeit blustery and chilly New
York City.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
My man, Dan Ripperstein, Sir, how are you? I'm good,
but I'm a little bit wistful. Not for the season,
although I am wistful for the regular season. But I
believe it's one year ago this weekend that we went
to Fargo. Wow, has it been a year already? Well,
so Colgate beat James Madison in the first round, right right,

(00:50):
even though North Dakota State I think, yeah, they had
to buy this year and then took down who Nichols
last week? Sure, I think this was the weekend. So
maybe this was the quarters or whatever it is of
the se S playoffs that we attended. And it has
been a year.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, I stand by the fact that that was the
coldest I've ever been at a football game.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Certainly certainly had a tail game. It had. It's totally
nice inside the Fargo Dome.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
It was so cold outside, and everybody there was completely
unphased except for us.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's correct, that's correct, and we live in cold weather places.
We had a terrific time. And I remember it because
the attention of the college football world was, you know,
somewhat on the game, because we were being tweeted, because
our pal Kevin Brown was calling the game and made
mention to the solid verbal and coming were cargo.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
We were running the si dot com Instagram story account. Correct,
we were doing that. But outside I cannot put into
words how next level cold that was.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
It was, well, the thing it wasn't super windy, so
it was just cold, don't I didn't find it unbearable.
But as as soon as you started mixing around with
people at North Dakota State, everybody's like, hey, you want
a club sandwich. Everything's great. You want some bourbon cocktail
that we've whipped up. Man, just another weekend here in Fargo,
and we're like, we are so soft, we are so

(02:14):
very very soft. It was great, It was great.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, thank you for bringing up that memory. You can
go back on our website and listen to that whole escapade.
It was a lot of fun going out to Fargo
check out the Bison in person. In the interim though, Hello,
welcome to the postseason. I'm Ty, He's Dan. This is
the Solid Verbal. As we've been saying all year long,

(02:39):
we're gonna be broadcasting through the off season.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Doesn't mean we're going to stop.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Might not broadcast quite as frequently, but that is to
be expected. Over the next couple weeks, we're going to
be previewing all the bowl games, yes, and recapping and recapping.
Not going to do that tonight. We're going to start
up this coming weekend. But suffice to say, there's a
lot of content that we have to get through as
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Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yes, I do really enjoy Bowl season, you know, for
as much attention as it gets as being a group
of exhibitions and not mattering, and it doesn't mean anything
for the next season. It's football on TV when in
a lot of places it's very cold out and you
might be spending time with people you're close to that
you might not necessarily want to be close to. I

(03:55):
can't speak to that because I'm very fortunate, but I
understand that for some people football and bowl games are
a terrific escape. So let's let's all be in this
together and enjoy. Like the guests, Spotty, what do you
call the gas gas the gasparilla or the bad boy
mowers or whatever. Bowl, Let's all do it together and
have fun. I like it.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
As for tonight, though, Dan, Yes, tonight, we're gonna go
through the mail bag as we are asked if people
out there could send in questions. It's been a long
time since we did a good, honest to goodness Q
and a emptied out the mail bag really covered some
ground so we're going to do that tonight. Figured the
first show after the season is a good one to

(04:34):
do that before we jump right back in this coming
weekend and talk about all things bulls before we get there, though, Dan,
we have news.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
We do all sorts of new coaching hires. I just
saw the most recent. Well, there were a couple of
recent ones. Steve Dazio to Colorado State, Willie Taggart to
Fau Morris to become Auburn's offensive coordinator. Marcus Arroyo, Oregon's
offensive coordinator, is now the head coach officially of the
UNLV Rebels. And who am I missing? Chip Long Notre Dame.

(05:13):
They've gone their separate directions. It's a conscious decoupling, conscious decoupling.
I think that's accurate. Did we mention Ricky Ronnie officially
taking the ODU job? We may have mentioned that on
the think we did in Passing Yeah, on the last show.
But teams yeah, two and a half of our teams. Yes,
So we're offensive coordinators. A lot to.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Come on that front, for sure. Who knows we'll have
another surprise this coaching season. I suppose it's possible. But
in the interim, we've got a lot of coordinators on
the move, and for sure we'll be talking more about
the organ of Notre Dame jobs i'd imagine on this show.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And Penn State job. That's a really good job with
how well the Nitney Lions have recruited, right for sure?
Do you think that they are going to when somebody
sort of asked this, I don't know if this will
go right into our Q segment before our a's but
do you think they promote from within? Do you think
James Franklin goes outside for some fresh eyes? What do
you think?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I would love for them to go outside. Okay, I
would love to go outside the box a little bit.
There's a dude from Slippery Rock whoa it's really deep
if you really want to dig deep in the hat.
I forget his name. I should know his name because
I've been reading about him all year.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
But about whoever is running the Muhlenberg offense?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, man, Actually, who's ever running the Muhlenberg defense might
be the better play.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's true. Benn State's defense I think is in a
pretty good place. Not the best ever, but they're in
a pretty good place.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Pretty good place. James Franklin's got a pretty good track
record for going outside.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, he's going to outside. Speaking of going outside, Steve A.
Dazio has never coached west of the Mississippi, and now
he is going west of the Mississippi. I just brought
up his his Wikipedia page. He to Central Connecticut, coached
at Western Connecticut State, coached high school in Connecticut, Syracuse,
to Notre Dame, to Indiana, to Florida, to Temple, to

(07:08):
Boston College, to Colorado State. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I will say though that Bronco Mendenhall coming east of
the Mississippi and having the success he's had at Virginia
has opened my eyes a bit to that whole geographic
argument that I know.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
He oh yeahked, Well, I mean, Oregon has a coach
who has almost exclusively coached in the Southeast at Askhama
and Miami and FIU and places like that. It's possible,
but it's just it was thirty five years of me.
So that's a long time for an assistant principal like Steva.
Does any any other noteworthy topics, Well, the Willie Taggart

(07:46):
thing is notable because he's jumping to a good job,
a job that's not a fixer upper. Like he's had
to do all these times as he gets new jobs,
and so hopefully he can just focus on maintenance rather
than trying to fix a pro that's sort of been gutted.
So I think I'm optimistic that FAU can keep succeeding. No, yes,
I think Willy Taggart's a good higher Yeah. So yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Originally there were rumors that he was interested. Willy Taggart
was interested in his old job. USF don't know if
that interest was reciprocating. I'm guessing it wasn't because they
hired Jeff Scott instead. Right, So Jeff Scott gets a job,
he comes over from Clemson, Willy Taggart presumably looking for
another job in Florida, he gets FAU.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Right, not a bad gig, No, not at all. And
I think USF is probably looking to build something more
long term. And it's probably fair to assume that Willy
Taggart's track record indicates he's not necessarily a long term
guy win or lose. Now, he might have to be
at this point. He might have to be at this point.
Not have a track record suggests that there might be
concern wherever he might have success. Also, Northwestern hires a

(08:55):
new offensive coordinator. This normally would not be huge news.
Offense was so bad. It should be noted that they
have not just hired a handyman. They've hired a general
contractor to come in and really get out all of
the warts and the termites. And there's a lot of
load bearing issues with the Northwestern offense that need addressing.

(09:17):
And Mike Bajakian but Jackie and I don't know how
he pronounced it. He was at Boston College, did a
good job improving the Eagle offense, did a good job
and I know the Tennessee team wasn't great in twenty fourteen,
but that offense was better in twenty fourteen than they
were in twenty thirteen. So has a track record. I
think he was at Cincinnati before that and did a
decent job with their offense. So hopefully Northwestern can get

(09:39):
that deal back up to competence. Can't do any worse, right, No,
it would. I mean I could imagine what a worse
offense would look like at a place that can attract
decent enough talent. Yeah, I couldn't imagine. So here you go.
The only other thing that I have see about Jim Delaney.
Maybe talk about it. Playoff, Dan, Jim Delaney will do

(10:02):
whatever his best for Jim Delaney. And you leave a
big ten team out of the playoff, even once like
has happened, then he will He is open. He said
something like, you know, I didn't like when they were computers,
but I don't know if I like people either. Right, No,
he's just keeping his options open. Jim Delaney does not
at all look like Robert Duvall. We've discussed this before.
Jumbo Duval, though. I think he's bigger, isn't he Probably? Yeah,

(10:26):
I think he's protein shake Duval. Whichever Duvall you prefer.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
This one seems to be warming to the idea of
an expanded playoff, which we knew was gonna come at
some point. Let's be honest, whether you like it or not.
Maybe that's the first question we could take because I
saw that one on that very topic.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Any other news before we jump in here. We have
Heisman finalists. That's happening. We're recording this Wednesday at five pm.
That's happening Saturday. We've had a couple of early awards
being given out. But I don't know nothing that we
need to stop everything down for him. We have a
bunch of good questions here. One final news tidbit, Dan, yes,
dam for help any of the week. It's not a

(11:06):
normal week.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
We're talking about things as if the season's over, and
for all intents and purposes, it is.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
But there is one other game that we need to discuss,
that we have to discuss.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's Army Navy. It's this weekend. They play it in Philly.
Navy is obviously the favorite here being so they were
a much better team throughout the course of the year.
But any thoughts on this football game.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I think I feel pretty good about Navy. Yeah that yeah,
maybe has been a fun watch. Obviously, they've gotten to
be a lot better on offense. They're a top ten
d analytics team and just points per drive I know
I love that stat. But defensively they took a nice
step up as well. And Army has just been a mess.
They've just been too sloppy. The game this year is
where it's at Philly. It's in Philly, it's at the Leak. Yeah,

(11:48):
we got a question about Philly food. Maybe we'll get
to Yeah, what's the spread? Ten and a half in
favor of Navy. I'm gonna give those points. Yeah, given
the points you always like taking in this game. I
always take the points in this game. I don't know
statistically how it shakes out, but I hate given points

(12:09):
in a game like this, such a big rivalry. We disagree. Also,
Friday night, three FCS playoff games and I you at
James Madison Austin p at Montana State Montana ad we
were state in Illinois State, North Dakota State. Any strong
thoughts about any of those games.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I have no strong thoughts at all other than the
Muhlenberg Mules at Scotti Baby Scotty Wood Stadium on Saturday.
Not sure if I'll make it up, but against North
Central North Central from Illinois.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, Slippery Rock, Minnesota State, the Johnny's of Saint John's
against Wisconsin Whitewater two twelve and one teams. It's a
pretty action. Pat my one's on ESPN three, Watch ESPN,
ESPN plus whatever. It's a lot of good football. Let's watch.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
We have a bunch of good questions. We asked the
verballerhood if they could please send a message to us
let us know what your question are. Of course, you
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There's also a form on our website, and there are
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Speaker 1 (13:14):
Did we post on Reddit? We did post. We posted
on Reddit a bunch of questions from Reddit.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
So any which way you can get in touch with
us if you've got something to say? What is our
first question, Daniel?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Do you want to have the sound that we can play?
Or now, congratulations, Skippy, you've got mail? You got there?
It is? I like my version better.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, all right, let's go to that right, let's go
to that playoff question.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Let's kick Adam. All right, let's leave here with Adam.
He says, Dan has pretty clear thoughts on the college
football playoff, but I'm interested in what he believes is
the best option BCS or go back to polls. So
it would be the old system in which there were
conference alignments for say the Rose and the Sugar and
the Orange and the people whatever. So I would say,
bring back the blockbuster bawl one.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Obviously, if we could play a bit of the newly
led game here my understanding.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
The AutoZone Liberty Bowl, getting the zone right, Yeah, always
my understanding of what you would prefer is go back
to polls. I think that's my preference, not in terms
of it being an actual good answer to find a
national champion, but I think it's the answer for what
would be the most entertaining postseason in college football. That
would also put a lot of weight on what I

(14:25):
believe to be the best part of college football, which
is September, October, November and things getting crazy at the
end of the season with the polls and whatever the rankings.
So that's my personal preference because I think I am
looking at this holistically and just what would be the
most fun package for college football. Because ultimately we've decided

(14:48):
that a national championship means something, But does it to
like if only seven and a half teams are capable
of winning it because of the way they're built and
how much money they have to you know, pay coaches
and build facilities and you know, travel for recruiting, things
like that. Why does the national championship matter as much
as it does? Why is there so much weight put

(15:10):
on it? Why are we you know, whether it's Game
Day or the Fox Show or our show, or anybody
who talks about national college football there's this idea of
who's your top four? You go on the radio, I
go on the radio. We get asked this in March,
who's your top four? Do you have right? And there's
something to me that and I've explained this in a
number of shows, But in terms of the best solution,

(15:31):
there is no best solution. If you want to go
to eight, sure, those eight teams in that tournament, how
many games is that? That would be four to two,
three and one? It would be three, it was seven
games games, yea, seventy seven games. They'd be fun, it'd
be good TV. But suddenly there you get a situation
where your ty Hildenbrand, say, Conference championship weekend, is like, yeah,

(15:52):
let's no matter what they're not calling out of the
top eight. You get more of that, so we have
more inconsequential games late this season, which I'm just against.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Okay, well, I just still cannot get my head around
your logic on this one. And you're entitled to it,
but I don't get it. If the national championship doesn't matter,
then why do any of the games matter? Why even
play if.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
The ultimate goal?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
If the ultimate goal is not to win the game
and not to win the championship. Why are they playing
the games at all? Like, there has to be there
has to be meaning. There has to be meanings at
the end of this and in every other sport and
literally every other sport, we're playing for a championship in
some way, shape or form, unless you're talking pee wee's

(16:41):
where everyone gets a ribbon, which this is not. You're
playing for a championship at the end, and we may
disagree on how you crown that champion, but the foundation
of your argument here is that the championship does not matter.
And that's still to this day after years of arguing
about this is not something I can get my head around.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Ty, which year featured your favorite premier league playoffs? They
don't have playoffs? Oh sorry, they don't have playoffs. Sorry.
The biggest sport in the world is the one exception
that doesn't have the kids.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
They well, they have tournaments. They also have a league
with twenty teams and they can play each other over
the span of a season. We can't do that in
college football. We can't do that because they're one hundred
and thirty two. Let's do it now. We have talked
about our elaborate method for crowning a champion, right, which
would occur over a ten year period, everyone eventually playing
everyone in a format.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, yes, I'm open discussion on that one.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
But since that is not going to be the case
anytime soon, we're just going to have an impass here.
We will fundamentally disagree on. I know whether a championship
has value or not.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Let me ask you this, though, how much did you
care about a national champion when you learned about college football?
You're just hoping Notre Dame wins, right, I care a
great deal about the national championship. No, I'm saying now,
you do what I'm saying when you first got into football,
When you first got into college football, when you're twelve
years old, just watching Notre Dame games. I hope they win.

(18:11):
I was watching every game, Dan, I was not just
watching Notre Dame. Come on, right. But the idea is
we only talk. We don't care about other sports. College
football is a unicorn. It's the greatest, and it's not
the greatest because of its postseason. It's the greatest because
of its season. That's what that I would agree with.
That I would agree with. Okay, that I would absolutely
agree with and so I mean, now we're getting into

(18:32):
the importance of that, and don't worry think about let's
just treasure what college football is instead of what it
isn't how about that.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, you're steering into the whole exhibition side of things,
which is what this playoff tried to get away from, right,
And I am saying quite the opposite, that it was
too much of an exhibition sport for too long and
it's long overdue that we have some justified way of
crowning a CHAMPI and I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
With college football the way it was, right. I fell
in love with it the way it was, and I'm
even more in love with it now. Oh no way,
there's no way. Next topic. Next topic. All right, our
next question, and I'll get away for some We have
a couple other college football stuff, but our college fooball
playoff stuff. But how about this? How much of Lincoln

(19:24):
Riley's success at Oklahoma and Ryan Day's initial success at
Ohio State is due to having smooth in house coaching transfers?
So okay, not you know, transfer in that sense, but
are we going to see more of this in the future?
Related how likely is Jimmy Lake likely to maintain Washington
if not on Oklahoma and Ohio State's level. So I
guess maintain Washington as occasional jump up and get to

(19:46):
the playoff, can tend for the Pac twelve, you know,
once every three years andthing like that. We sort of
answered this on the Twoes crews, didn't we We did. Yeah,
let's talk about let's talk about internal transition.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, I mean, the smooth in house transition is important,
but doesn't it help to have that kind of talent
like they do at Ohio State and Oklahoma. Definitely, like
both guys have done a great job, but they also
started with presumably that twenty seven mile runway from Fast
and Furious six That helps two. So it's a combination

(20:23):
of factors for both those guys. There are plenty of
instances where a coach took over a very talented team
and then deep sixed it over the course of five years.
I'm looking at you, Larry Coker. Lincoln Riley clearly has
not done that. Lincoln Riley has you know, carved out

(20:44):
his own little place in college football at this point,
and that's why you hear his name rumored for jobs
maybe in the NFL. At some point right, We'll have
to wait and see on Ryan d Ryan Day has
been a name that's been up and coming in the
coaching ranks forever. I would find it very hard to
believe that things are going to turn around in a
negative way for him at Ohio State. So I think
it's a combination of factors. That's sort of a long

(21:05):
winded way of saying. It's both it's talent and it's
a smooth transition from A to B.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
So even I'll drill down a little bit deeper, and
you root for schools in Penn State and Notre Dame
that almost exclusively look to the outside. One because Penn
State had a coach forever and ever and that ended abruptly,
so they pretty much had to go to the outside.
Given that situation, then they do it once again once
Bill O'Brien leaves to hire James Franklin, who has connections

(21:33):
to PA but was not on that staff. My school
that I root for almost exclusively looks inside the program,
like Bellotti was an inside higher, Chip Kelly was an
inside hire, Mark Helfrich was an inside hier, Willie Taggert outside,
and then Mario Christobul inside once again, so we have
different vantage points as it relates to the teams we
root for. And I'll say that there is an unquestionable

(21:56):
advantage of just knowing where the bathrooms are, and that's
to be taken in a literal and figurative sense. Just
there's something about you're not displacing your family again. You
don't have upheaval, you don't have You're not going home
to a teenager saying I hate you, Dad, I miss
all my friends. There is something quinked and tranquil about continuity,

(22:16):
just from a personal standpoint. And then you know which
coaches you like and don't like, and you can say,
you know what, it's been great working with you, but
I think I'm gonna go a new direction, defensive line coach,
offensive coordinator, whatever. You already have a sense of the
players who you like, who you don't like, where you
need to recruit better, where you can pull back on
a little bit. There is I mean, you're talking about

(22:38):
the runway and I think that's exactly it. But it's
in every single room of the facility. And you're right
about the talent with Ohio State and Oklahoma, and I
think to a lesser extent, but still to a reasonable
extent at Washington. I think Jimmy Lake should have a
lot of success early because programs stuck there are really good.
They've recruited well, there are good defensive players. I know
they need to make adjustments on offense, but Immy Lake

(23:00):
is better prepared to diagnose what he wants to do
on offense than if they brought in whoever. You know,
if they brought on PJ. Fleck to replace Chris Peterson
or Matt Campbell or whoever. And that's what you should
see them flirting with double digit wins in these next
couple of years because he knows where the bathrooms are.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Sure, Yeah, I mean it's not a common occurrence that
you see a guy who is taking over and is
just an instant disaster taking over a good situation and
it's instantly horrible.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Right, Usually Helfridge took a few years.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Right, Usually it takes a little bit before you start
to see that manifest Clearly it has that happened at Oklahoma.
I don't think it's likely to happen at Ohio State,
but you got to give it time.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Where are we going next? And by the way, the
interesting thing with both Ryan Day and Lincoln Riley is
they'd been around. Oh yeah, Jimmy Lake is a Peterson
not lifer, but he spent a lot of time with
them at Boise and Washington, so his network of what
works and what doesn't work is network of a distance
isn't quite as large. I still think he should succeed. Next,

(24:04):
you get to redo one play this year. This is
from Willie Auburn's last second catch versus Oregon. North Carolina's
two point attempted play against Clemson. Alabama's one second before
half versus Auburn. Michigan catches the touchdown versus Penn State.
That's what Ronnie Bell in the end zone that would
have tied it. Sure, I believe it was twenty eight,
twenty one or something else. I know which one you

(24:27):
can redo. Yeah, I'm gonna say Veron McKinley breaking up
that pass the Oregon defensive back.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm going to say North Carolina is two point attempt
against Clemson because I love the Cajones. It takes to
Gopher two. Sure in that situation, go for the win.
Almost as much as I hate the speed option play
that they ran against a really fast Clempson defense.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
But I love the gumption to go for two there.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
If you're Mac Brown, got a shot take The shot
didn't work out, but it was still held a lot
of fun.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Not a lot of people know this, but that play
where a quarterback rolls out and a tight end shows
that he's in for extra protection, then leaks out to
the weak side for a wide open catch that has
never failed. It's a one hundred percent successful play on
any level it's ever been run. You know, why didn't
they run the Philly Special? It's a good question. Has

(25:24):
that play ever failed? I have not seen. I mean
sure it has. I'm sure it's failed spectacularly because there
are a lot of levers and pulleys to it.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I would love to know if PFF has a stat
on that.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Seriously, on some sort of Philly Special or King of
Prussia special, some sort of iteration. That play feels like
it works one hundred percent of the time. Yeah, it
absolutely does. Footford thought, will Mike Norvel have the knolls
above five hundred next year? Not including a bowl game?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Ooh, good question, Yeah, good question. This is from Michael.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
First off, the non conference schedule includes both Boise and Florida,
which are tough games.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yes, I think they're at Boise and West Virginia, right
and West Virginia sure in Atlanta. Yeah, so they've got
those three, which at least two of those three are
going to be tricky.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
They also get Clemson. They also get Louisville, they get Miami,
both in the road, both of those two every year.
But yeah, right, both of those teams should be improved.
I don't think they lose all those games. I feel
pretty good about seven and five, just solely on talent alone.
But I think the schedule dispels any notion of Mike

(26:43):
Norvel going like nine and three, ten and two.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's kind of a tough schedule. It's what a third
offensive coordinator in three years. It's the talent level obviously
isn't up to where it was, you know, eight, seven
years ago. Whatever, I think they'll be, okay, I am optimistic.
Quarterback is still gonna be such a huge issue for me. God,

(27:07):
the Sam Howell de commitment, well, yeah, it hurt, that's right,
just enormous. I think so. Yeah, I think they can
go seven and five. It's it's year one, don't I
don't have what Mike Norvell did at the moment in
front of me. I'm bringing it up right now in
year one at Memphis, but he was taking over a
much more successful program. It was a different situation. They

(27:28):
left that in such a good place.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
It went a much different situation. Yeah, in five to
five in five so look, I like Mike Norvell. I
think it's a good move. I don't know if he's
got the personnel in place to run the system he
wants to run. We'll find that out in due time.
But the schedule does not strike me as a cream
puff schedule.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
So seven and five right now.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
If I'm betting in late December or early to so
whatever this is now was in track of time, seven
and five would probably be my early bet.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah. I don't think cam Akers will be back, No,
I hope not, for his sake. I really do hope not.
I don't think he's declared yet, but it's hard to
imagine he won't because it's time. There's nothing more he
can really do in Florida State, given the line that's
going to be in front of him once again. I'm
sure it'll be improved, but it's time. Yeah, I'm gonna

(28:20):
say yes, just be on the strength of Norville, but
we haven't seen all of his HighRes, so it's it's
an incomplete take at the moment, Joshua, does the Big
Twelve have the best pool of head coaches right now
versus all the other Power five conferences or just every
conference top to bottom? I'm gonna say no, Okay, who's better? Well,

(28:40):
I guess, first of all, let's define best pool of coaches.
I don't know how you would define it. I will
offer have proven that they can win eight games in
a Power five conference, Okay, as a head coach. So
the Big Twelve to me is sort of incomplete. I
did Less Miles currently lest Miles won a national championship.

(29:03):
Do you have faith less Miles can win eight games
at Kansas? No, that's obviously the low part. Matt Wells incomplete? Okay,
no idea, right?

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Neil Brown incomplete? No idea. I mean we look at
Neil Brown, we look at Matt Wells, you know, Chris
Climban as people who have potential. But there's just there's
too much. I mean, we like, obviously, we love Lincoln Riley,
Gary current iteration, Gary Patterson and the decisions he's made
it offensive coordinator I don't know. It's not in a

(29:35):
great place. But Gary Patterson's track record says yes, he
is an addition to a good pool, right it is.
It's not the Pac twelve.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, I mean what the what the Big twelve has
going for it is that it's only ten teams.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yes, so it's more of a percentage thing. It's so
hard to go against the sec you think. So it
starts at the top with Saban, who everyone is trying
to emulate. Eight mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Obviously LSU had a renaissance here. I don't know if
I'm confident in ed Orgeron moving forward. I'm confident in
their ability in this playoff, but this is really the
first year where he's broken out, so I'd like to
see him maintain it. But LSU was an eight win entity.
I feel pretty good about that year in a year out.
Dan Mullen is doing quick work at Florida. Gus Melzon

(30:24):
has been pretty good for a while at Auburn. Winning
eight games has not really been an issue, right, you know.
On the other side of things, I think Jeremy Pruitt
did a really good job second half of the year
at Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, but second half of the year was a very
different schedule than the first half of the year. But yeah, sure,
you lose the way he did those first two weeks.
It's hard to really sing praises this season.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Mark Stoops has done miracles at Kentucky. I'm not even
mentioning Jimbo Fisher yet. So I just think the amount
of AMMO in the coaching ranks and the SEC is
really tough to beat.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I would say the top of the SEC is incredibly
tough to beat. The depth of the ACC as down
as it was this season, the ACC is sneaky. I
was looking at them too. It's not Jeff Collins is
an unknown right now as a Power five coach, and
obviously Boston College has not officially hired anybody. But in
terms of what these guys have proven, and I would

(31:24):
put Mike Norvell above some of those big twelve guys
with what he's done at Memphis this season leading him
to a Cotton Bowl. The Many Diaz thing is the
other question. But justin Fuente, Bronco, Mendenhall, Pat Nardoozi, it
was okay, but he if that bar is seven eight
wins in a Power five conference, he can He's gotten there. Ye,

(31:46):
mac Brown has proven it and a Power five conference.
He's an ash. David Cutcliffe has proven it all. Dave
Duran does is wins seven or nine games, or he
wins or loses seven games, that's right in the ACC.
Dino Babers has proven it. No, it's not bad. I
think just in terms of high floor, I would probably

(32:08):
I might have, and then Dabbo obviously who might be
the best coach in the sport?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Can I ask a different coach question than I see
here from Joe? Does the hype around Matt Campbell at
Iowa State seem to be fizzling? Or is he still
destined for a program bigger and better eventually he is?

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I think he's being patient. Yeah, I think he's being
patient for Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, something like that,
where you know, obviously he's from the Midwest, and I
think he will have his choice of a large Midwestern
job if he continues taking Iowa State to bowl games
and hanging with teams like Oklahoma and Texas, beating teams

(32:49):
like Texas, murdering teams like TCU for as many down
weeks and weird losses that the Clones will have and
you know you need to beat Iowa at a certain point.
Their schedule is not difficult in the following years. I
think they only have Iowa in terms of very challenging
Power five teams, so that should be a nice cushion.

(33:12):
Even though the Big twelve plays nine conference games. I
think we're just plateauing with Matt Campbell as attractive dude
to take over that large program. And that's my point.
I don't think it's fizzling.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I just think the hype has been normalized at this point,
and you're one hundred percent right. He is in a
position or he can be as picky as he wants
to be about his next gig, because Iowa State would
happily keep him until he's seventy sure thirty years of
Matt Campbell, sign me up. They would take that in
a heartbeat. The truth of the matter is, though.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Can you imagine a seventy three year old with that
crazy curved hat, whoa.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Matt Campbell had an eight and four regular season last year.
Last year before that, you had to go back eighteen
years to find a regular season as successful. This is
not a place that is easy to win at. Seven
win seasons are not growing on trees at Iowa State.
And now he's done it for three consecutive seasons. So

(34:11):
this is definitely still a guy who's going to be
in demand when he chooses to be in demand.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Right. The only thing I'd be worried about. And we
got a question about Willy Fritz with this too. You know,
how is Willy Fritz still at Tulane? How has nobody
scooped him up there? If he does throw in a
clunker of a year, if he loses a quarterback in
week three and they end up five and seven because
of weird depth issues, transfer issues or whatever, then he's
going to need a proven year not to stay at

(34:37):
Iowa State, but to say, Okay, no, this guy's still good.
This guy's still good. I think it sort of happened
in Iowa State is not a G five program. But
this is more of a comparison to Willy Fritz. Everybody said,
oh man, Matt Wells destined for big things. Then Utah
State kept getting hurt at quarterback year after year after year,
and he would I think he had a great year

(34:59):
with the Eggies and like tw fourteen and then he
threw in a bunch of five and seven, six and
seven whatever type seasons. And it's not that people thought
any less of him, but the margin for air is
so much slimmer at a place like that. So when
he finally did have that double digit, double digit win
year last season, then it was like, I gotta take
advantage now. Yeah, fair enough, fair enough, he's gonna I

(35:20):
think if he does slip, if Matt Campbell and the
Clones slip and have a clunker year, he will need
that prove a year. But I don't see that happening
anytime soon. He's recruited pretty well. I think he has
a blue chip quarterback coming in in this next class.
It's always gonna be tough to out recruit teams that
are that close or inside Texas. But uh, I foresee
this continuing for the Clones. So Bucks Guy, that's the

(35:41):
name we have here. Bucks Guy. Yeah, requested that I
read the full name of this bowl, okay, and.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
He said, I might be headed to the Bad Boy
Mowers Gasparia Bowl. Mm hmm, as I'll be in the
area for Christmas games in Tampa. Yeah, what is the
word on this game? Any fun? Seems like it'll be
a blowout. So this is UCF and Marshall. I agree
that it will be a blowout. I think UCFS about

(36:10):
a seventeen point favorite. I'll put a fair amount of
confidence points on this one. All I would say to you,
sir Buck's guy, mister Bucks guy. I'm assuming this Bowl
game has previously been sponsored by titans in the business world,
such as Magic Jack, BFO, Brady's, and BitPay. So regardless

(36:31):
of the final outcome of the game, maybe it's a blowout,
maybe it isn't just walk around breathe that rarefied era
of Raymond James Stadium.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Dan, can I ask you a question about sponsorships in
light of both your comment and the fact that the
New Mexico Bowl almost got sponsored by a company that
doesn't technically exist or at least we talk in we
talk in CPM rates here. What are we talking now?
My question to you is, if there is a desperate
Bowl game that is sure it's going to sell a
lot of tickets, but it still needs a sponsor to

(37:00):
round out the books, to cover all of its costs whatever,
how inappropriate do you think? I mean, I'm sure there
are rules. I don't know if it's an NCAA thing.
I don't know if it's an ESPN thing. I don't
know if it's a specific bowl that has rules about
who they would accept sponsorship from. I only thought of
this because Tampa is so I've heard the strip club

(37:22):
capital of America. Sure, So I don't think they would
take a sponsorship from a strip club. Would they take
a sponsorship from if there were some modern equivalent of
like Maxim or Fahm, would they take a Hooters sponsorship?
I was going to say, would they take a Hooter sponsorship?

(37:42):
I think they probably would. I think they would, right, Yeah,
I think especially a smaller bowl that really just needs
that infusion of cash to cover everything, I think you
would do a Hooter's bull Yeah.

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(38:17):
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Speaker 1 (39:09):
Do you have the breaking news sounds I do? From
nineteen ninety five to nineteen ninety nine, Hooters sponsored the
Hula Bowl. Oh yes, that's right, Yeah, I think the
Hula Bowl is coming back. By the way, Oh, I
would love that the Hula Bowl is coming back. According

(39:31):
to its Wikipedia page. The game was first played nineteen
forty seven to two thousand and eight and is being
revived following the twenty nineteen season to be played at
a Looha stadium first time. Since it's so, it's scheduled
for January twenty six, twenty twenty. So this is the
like an all star game. Yeah, not officially a bowl game. Also,
Lee Karso did a Hooters commercial in twenty eleven where

(39:53):
he was he put on the I remember that owl,
I remember that head, I remember that there is connection,
there is I want that's a technical bowl game.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
I don't just want the Blockbuster Bowl back. I want
the blue Bonnet Bowl back from the late eighties.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Bring that back, good copper ball, get more people to Arizona.
Let's do it. Okay, next question, who do you want
to go to? N D Fan? Let's get this out
of the way. Oh, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Do you think Notre Dame is a coach away from
the elite class like Georgia when Georgia went from Mark
Richt to Kirby Smart. It's a loaded question, mister D fan. Yeah,
how do you feel?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
How do you feel about this one? Dan? So? We're
talking about a top three class. We're talking about a
ton of five stars and like seventy seventy five percent
plus rkship ratio.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
No, he says, do you think Notre Dame is a
coach away from the elite class like Georgia?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Oh the early class? Okay, I see what, Yeah say,
so upper top, wrong, upper crust of college football. And
he's comparing it to the Georgia situation when they went
from Mark Richt to Kirby smart Well. One, I don't
know who that is. I don't know who that coach
is that's taking the Notre Dame job, unless Urban Meyer's
taking it in a year or two, which I guess
it's possible. No, I think Notre Dame is in a

(41:12):
place where they are getting good enough classes, and it's
just they need to go undefeated, essentially, maybe eleven and
one to be in the conversation later on in the season,
because as we saw this year ten and two. And
maybe this is just me liking, you know, to see
Notre Dame cause you adjuta, But do they feel sort

(41:35):
of college football adjacent this year? Adjacent? Yeah, college football
like playoff adjacent. Even when they were good, it felt
like we were never really having conversations about big Notre
Dame games. I think partially because big Notre Dame games
didn't really exist near the end of the year. Well,
they were out of it towards the end of the year,
right And so we are not talking about Notre Dame

(41:57):
in a well, if they beat Clemson in the ACC
champ and ship the like, if Notre Dame were in
the ACC Coastal, we'd be talking about a Notre Dame
Florida Sugar Bowl or Orange Bowl or whatever, right, well.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
And part of that is the way that the schedule
naturally worked out. That Stanford game to close out the
year six months ago looked like it would be a
lot bigger than it ended up being. Definitely, so just
the natural rhythms of the season kind of took them
in a different direction. But after they got drilled by Michigan,
it was pretty much over. So yeah, yeah, definitely down
the stretch, we didn't talk a whole lot about Notre Dame.

(42:32):
I think it's a fair question to ask. I know
that there are many in the Notre Dame world that
are asking that question. The caveat, though, is that quote
being a coach away from elite is the ultimate white
whale in college football. It worked at Georgia, it doesn't
work at most places. What state is Georgia located in Georgia.

(42:52):
It's in Georgia. It's easier to I mean, Notre Dame
is a big national brand and should be able to
attract national talents.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Easier to attract that kind of class and get or
that kind of excuse me, that just that kind of
talent and that kind of momentum at Georgia than it
is a Notre Dame. There is a talent gap.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
A school like Georgia is deeper across the board, slowly
but surely. I think Brian Kelly has gotten Notre Dame
in a much much better spot in that department. In general,
they're in pretty good shape. They're in pretty good shape.
I think, as I said all year, they're a quarterback away.
I think they can get a better quarterback that.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Well, now they need a coordinator too.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Well, now they need a coordinator, and maybe that coordinator
will do different things with the book. I don't know,
but I think they're a quarterback away, a more dynamic
quarterback away from maybe getting to that rung a little
more consistently.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
But they're right there, they're knocking on the door. I'd
also say it's probably easier to attract a top flight
coach to Athens, Georgia. I would agree with that. Yeah,
it's a great place. Not that South Bend doesn't have
its charms. Athens, george is a great place.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
You have a few more college football ones. And then
we'll go back off topic.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
How many years at minimum? This is Minnesota a bomb?
This is what I'm trying to come up with, as
this person's user name. How many years at a minimum
until we see a non Clemson Clesome ACC champion, non
Clemson ACC champion. Yeah, and I guess who is the
most likely non Clemson? Wow? And how many years will

(44:26):
it take for said team? Man? That is tough. It's
so you don't want you nobody's nobody's gonna be as
talented in the short term, right, No.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
No, I mean the natural answer would be Florida State.
Florida State's sort of that natural rival. But I don't know,
years away, I don't know. I don't know, probably three
years at a minimum.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Three years.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, Miami's another one that you could throw in there.
They've got a promising freshman quarter back do they we
thought they did.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
We did a whole thing on Willard, we did a
whole thing on them.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
But at a minimum, it's got to be three years
for almost anybody in the ACC.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Yeah, I mean it's probably three years. I think you
can sneak into two the Okay, so we're looking at
promising young quarterbacks. I think I see two or no,
I probably see three right now in the conference. That's
that's the starting point you need. I see Hendon Hooker,
I see McHale calm yeah, and I see Sam Howell. Sure,

(45:39):
super promising young quarterbacks is a great place to start.
I think the answer is bra. I mean, Louisville's defense
is far away. That is a that is going to
take time. Virginia Tech has a new defensive coordinator, their
offense still needs some but you're not going to find
anybody inside three years. I think I could be talked

(46:00):
into Virginia Tech within two geez yeah. Or I could
actually be talked into man if Sam Howell keeps progressing.
Sam How's real good. He is real good. You see.
The thing is, I think it's going to be easier
to beat Clemson by just jumping up and getting them

(46:22):
late September and having that game advantage and run the
table in the Atlantic, or just finished with a better
record than it is to get Clemson at the end
of the season and beat them in late November early December.
That's fair. So that's why I almost favor Louisville here
that if in two years they get to a place
with transfers or whatever, Michael Cunningham still looks really strong.

(46:44):
That might be why my answers Louisville. Actually, all right,
next question, where are we going? Next question, let's go
to but we had a bunch of good ones here,
did I skip? I'm already onto the non college football.
Let's go to Sam Sam near the top of page one.

(47:06):
I always like that name. Okay, why should any fan
of a team other than Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, Georgia,
or Clemson think their team stands a chance of winning
a national championship in the next ten years? And let's
pair this question with Trevor, who asks, when, in your
opinion does a program stop being considered a blue blood
or when does it move to blue blood status? Okay,

(47:27):
because if we are going to work under the presumption
that you need to be or on the verge of
becoming a quote blue blood to win a national championship
where you're gonna have to have more depth than you
did before because you're gonna have to win two games
on neutral sites and big stages. How do we determine
blue bloodiness and why would fans outside of those current strong,

(47:50):
strong programs feel like they have a chance.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Well, that's a good question, and it really strikes you.
It really strikes at the.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Heart of why we root for college football at all.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, certainly there's investment being made, there are beat writers
writing about the investment being made, and there's no shortage
of fan enthusiasm, especially in the beginning of the year
when everyone's undefeated. So it's not hard for me to
understand how people feel like they.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Have a chance. So without knowing who Sam roots for,
because let's assume Sam roots for a team that's a
rung or two below Ohio State, Alabamalysy, Georgia, Clemson, Oklahoma,
I would include in that because if you make multiple playoffs,
you're in that conversation, right, So, what you're a Notre

(48:37):
Dame fan, you root for a team that's you know,
a rung below. I'm an Oregon fan. I root for
a team that's a rung below.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
How do we have a chance we make the playoff
and we get a chance to beat that team on
the field.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
No, but you know that those teams are operating at
a higher level.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
They're operating at a higher level. But you make the playoff,
you have a chance. All you can ask for is
to give yourself a chance.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
So I think the feudal name nature of this question
comes from the fact that we've seen what one team
or one and a half teams from outside the general
consensus of that blue blood group make the playoff. Right,
we saw Michigan State. How did they fare against Alabama?
I got smoked, not super great, It was super evident
that they were just they did not blow On the

(49:19):
same field, we saw Oregon win a game against the
Florida State team, who I will still argue that Florida
State team was clearly more talented. They were just a mess.
And that's my points that's my point right there. But
we're talking about an Oregon team who had already been
to a national championship, who had been to four straight
BCS Bowls at that point, or it was four out

(49:39):
of five. It was like it was a year after
Chip left. They went to the Almo Bowl in twenty thirteen.
But Chip Kelly took Oregon to four straight BCS Bowls,
so it was not a matter of them. And I
know Michigan State had success leading up as well, but
there is an element of not exactly having the depth.
As we saw Oregon against Ohio State, they were down
too many players. In Ohio State, even though they were

(50:01):
down to their third string quarterback, that third string quarterback
was plenty good. And so that's the issue. That's the
issue at hand is that teams generally outside of that
grouping plus Oklahoma, I would say that he named are
just not going to be able to weather the grind
of going through both going through a season probably undefeated,
because you're not going to get the benefit of the

(50:22):
doubt with one or two losses and then going through
two of those teams. So my answer to him is,
I'm going to bring this full circle. National championship doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
You went into this season as a Notre Dame fan
without any designs of Notre Dame going to the National championship, right,
I did not believe that they would be a contender,
But you watched and you enjoyed yourself. I mean I
shouldn't say that. That doesn't mean I can't.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
It doesn't mean yourself for them to make it though,
right totally, which there is.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
There's the hope. But you shouldn't have designs of it.
You just just.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Is the most illogical argument I've ever heard in my life.
You should not root for your team to win the championship.
I'm gonna write note that here, Okay, and.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
I should also mention Notre Dame made it to the
playoff last year for the first time and didn't hang
with the team that was put in front of them.
They did one point better than Alabama, though the defense
right point better than Alabai. Moving on, where are we
going next? No, but my general point is if you
view the sport as having a point beyond the national Championship,

(51:25):
which I think you should. I think you should, I should,
everybody should. And it's great if you root for one
of those great teams by all means have laser focus
on the national Championship. There's one hundred and twenty other teams,
and I think it's totally good to just root for
your team to play well. I root for your team
to play. Well, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
I don't want to call it like the hipster better
than the championship argument, but it that's the only way
I could describe it.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I just I just fundamentally disagree. I don't know. That's okay,
that's all right. I just disagree. Why don't Since we
just brought it full circle and we're only having we're
only doing a few more minutes of the show, why
don't we designate this portion of the show to say,
if you came here for college football Talk, yes, get out.
That was so amazing of you to download the show
and to listen, and hopefully you liked at least part

(52:12):
of it. We're going to move on to other topics now. Yes,
let's hit a couple of these. And it's been you
know what, it feels great to do so ty it does.
It's nice. So we asked you to give us questions
both about college football, and we also said I think
I said grocery stores, meeting your spouse's families, travel for
bowl season, which I guess is college football related. I

(52:33):
don't remember if it was. Oh, in sleep all things
I feel passionately about. Sure, let's start here. Brian says,
compounding the joy I felt watching LSU's historic season was
sharing it with my new girlfriend from Monterey, Mexico. Money.
It's great down there. She will be meeting my large
Cajun family for the first time, and that includes watching
the LSU Oklahoma game. My question is her English is

(52:57):
just okay, and my family sounds like like a sleepy coach.
Oh no, just a great way to describe people. What
should my instructions be to my relatives? I am worried
my family will overdo it and try too hard to
communicate with her by talking slowly and loudly to her
in English when it will not obviously will not help
and only make her feel like a toddler. Okay, So

(53:22):
my advice would be to just tell your family, Hey,
she's from somewhere else. She's decent at speaking English. Whatever
she doesn't pick up naturally, she'll probably get by context clues,
and if I'm nearby, I can always pipe up if
I feel like she's looking really, really confused. But I'm

(53:43):
assuming that Brian's girlfriend is a grown up, and so
it's it's basically, don't you Brian treat her like a
toddler and don't and tell your family. Just be like,
just talk. It's cool, She'll pick it up. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Well, he has an aster risk here that she understands
the rules of football because she grew up watching the
Mexican college football LIGAC. Yeah, which he said he had
no idea has been around since the nineteen twenties.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Oh wow, so.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
You know football, football's universal language. There, start there and
branch your way out. But no, no, don't treat her
any differently man.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah, I would say, you know, maybe if there is
a specific relative who is difficult to understand and might
wade into weird waters, maybe don't leave her alone with him.
Maybe be conscious that group settings involved, so that you
have an ear to the wall to jump in if

(54:40):
need be. But otherwise, yeah, I if Brian's smart enough
to email our show, he's smart enough to have a
cool girlfriend, so I assume everything will be good. All right,
Where are we going next? Brad wants to know he's
going to Japan. I love that we're going international at
this one. Okay, going to Japan over Christmas to meet
my girlfriend's parents for the first time, ask their permission

(55:01):
to marry their daughter. Whoa They don't speak English, so
girlfriend will translate any suggestions on what to say. Mahalo
Brad in Hawaii. And actually it turns out Uh, a
coworker of JODI's who is from Japan but lives here,
is half Japanese. And I think her father, I forget,

(55:23):
is his half Japanese. But her parents are in Japan
married O guy that's from the state, so they have
a similar thing. Although I think there's slightly less of
a language barrier, but still a language barrier. What's your
advice for Brad? Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah, now, you had a much more creative proposal than
I did.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Okay, Yeah, Would it.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Be too big a risk for Brad to just go
hardcore into the Japanese language right for the next couple weeks,
however long.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
And become fully fluent.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
No no, no no no no no, no, A one trick pony, Yeah,
just learn how to say hey, this one thing. Is
that too much of a risk, because I guarantee you
the parents would appreciate.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
It, So I think you are completely on the right track. Tie.
I would go a little further, I would say, and
it appears, And I did some digging about Brad oh a, right.
If this comes sorry, if this comes off as now
I didn't actually do anything, I have your social security No. No,
I think Brad lists a bunch of different places. Like
he says mahalo because he's Brad in Hawaii, but he's

(56:26):
Hawaii via a couple of other international destinations. Okay, so
I say, steer into his international background. Find somebody at
a local university, find somebody on Reddit. Honestly, if there's
a verballer who's fluent in Japanese, what I would say,
people in Japan who listen. Yeah, that's true. Oh man,
what is it? Brian C Brian Jones, Oh yeah, yeah,

(56:46):
longtime listener. Maybe get at him. We can connect you.
We'll connect here that I know that this is weird enough.
We know our listeners. We do know our listeners. What
I'm saying is, connect with somebody who knows Japanese. Write
out what you want to say. Say your daughter means
the world to me. I couldn't imagine being with anybody else. Really,
speak from the heart, really go for it. It doesn't

(57:07):
have to be you know, paragraphs and paragraphs and paragraphs,
but speak from the heart. Figure out what you want
to say. Write it down, find somebody fluent in Japanese
and see if you can get them to translate, and
see if you can really get it phonetically, you know,
pronounced for you, and to a video of it. Do

(57:28):
make a video of you saying these things to her parents,
bring it on your phone, show them. And also, if
you can, and if you do get it translated, get
it translated in a letter that you can give to them.
So that's what I did with Jody with an I's parents.
He translated into Japanese. I did it all in Japanese.
I actually did it both in Japanese and in a
couple of other languages, just to be saying far see

(57:50):
and whatnot sure for sure, but I would also include
in the video I say this in the video in Japanese.
I only learned this part, so I will be unable
to answer questions.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Well, that's an important disclaimer. Yes, that's an important disclaimer.
So I get so our answer here to Brad, it
depends on how risky he wants to get.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
If he thinks he's going to be nervous, I think
you have to do that. I would do that myself,
one hundred percent do it. I will not. I would
not advise it. If I weren't going to do it myself,
I'd say you have to do it on video because
it also shows effort. Right, you're not asking permission in
the traditional sense like it, They're not probably not going
to say no.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Well, the language shows effort. Regardless you learn the language,
it shows effort. It shows effort. Her parents will appreciate that.
So whether you do it live and fight off the nerves,
or if you decide to go more of the production
route and do the video. Either way, it's got to
be in Japanese.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
We agree on this. It has to be has to
be in Japanese, and we will if anybody's listening is
fluent in Japanese and will want to help Brad out
solid verbal at gmail dot com. If not, maybe I
can try to ask Jody's coworker. I'm sure we have Japanese.
We will make this work for Brad. We will, Okay,
So I'm glad we agree on that. This was a
question that was sort of contentious at one point in

(59:07):
our show. Really it was about dogs. Oh boy, Oh
not this one again. Oh No, what's Tie's opinion? Because
sleep is one of the things we offered questions about
what's Tie's opinion on letting his dogs sleep with him.
Who has, Dan Klobashar, who has I find it possible.
I find it possibly less RESTful when one of my

(59:28):
dogs sleeps with me, But it's nice in the winter
to use one for heat fore, so well, he's up
in Minnesota, so he needs that. Yes, and you sleep
next to your wife, who I don't imagine provides a
lot of heat because she's just a smaller lady. So
maybe your dog a furry presence in your life. Sure,
does your dog sleep in bed with you ever? Not yet?

(59:49):
But she's just a pup.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
The solid puppy has woven herself into our lives. Sure
in such a way that I think we're at some
point going to broach that subject. See if see if
she's interested in coming up to sleep in the same room.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Now, I'm not as different than bed. Room is different
than bed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I don't want to like box myself in here by
saying if the dog decides to jump up and sleep
at our feet, then I'm gonna kick her off because
I won't. I don't think i'd be too gung ho
and having her sleep like next to me on the pillow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Especially if you have allergy issues. That's like, that's three
hours of dander right up your nose.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, that's not a good option, But I think I
could be swayed into her at our feet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
What if we end up going back to a Dakota
next year? Right? Okay, we go see the Jacks in
South Dakota. Yeah, yeah, and you come back home. Kate's
been home obviously a couple days without you. She was like, Oh,
the the dog actually really likes sleeping in bed, and
I like it. Are you putting up a fight? Are you?

(01:00:59):
Is that what a foot down issue for you that
you're like, you know what, I don't know if that's
my favorite thing or are you just gonna roll with it?
I mean, it depends if I have my spot in
the bed right, Let's say it's an adjusted spot. Let's
say the dog takes up part of the dmz Ah,
I don't know. I don't know. Such a good question.

(01:01:22):
Next question, Jason wants to know, how do you feel
about Trader Joe's. My contention is that they don't carry
many pantry staples, and therefore it's not one stop grocery shopping,
and we have a couple of grocery store questions. Cody
asked about if we prefer regional or national chains, like
a wind Dixie, Public's, Wegmans, or a Walmart would be
a national chain. Trader Joe's is a national chain. Is
this decision based on price, service, convenience? Tie? Right? You

(01:01:46):
know you are one stop shopper though. You know my
stance on Trader Joe's, right, I know you're afraid. I'm
not afraid. That's what I've heard.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I think Trader Joe's tries to be tries a little
too hard to be unique, and people swear by Trader Joe's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
I know, you go to a grocery store that has
a pub in it, a craft beer pub tie. Yeah,
but it's a Wegman's. It's a Wegmans. My theory on
Trader Joe's do you even have a Trader Joe's near you?
I don't know, Okay, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
My theory with Trader Joe's is that all of the
prepared foods have one ingredient that does not belong because
they're trying to be just a little too creative.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
So a sandwich with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Maybe like turkey and cheese and mayonnaise, and maybe something
crazy like peanut butter. Like that's not a good example.
But there's always one ingredient that is a little too
avant garde.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Use you're out on turkey peanut butter sandwiches. I am,
believe it or not, I'm not going to. Trader Joe's
is not a sponsor. I'm a big fan of Trader Joe's,
mostly because it's not terribly far from me. There are
a couple of them in Brooklyn, so it's convenient. It's large.
Grocery stores in New York are generally terrible. I don't
want to go to whole Foods, so I like it.
There's a lot of private label stuff. It's not like

(01:03:04):
they're making everything. Sure, you just got to know where
they're strong and where they're not. But like, if their
meat isn't that good, that's okay. There are butchers around,
and so it's not one stop shot. But I would
argue that many grocery stores shouldn't be looked at as
one stop shot. What do you really care?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
What's interesting though, there is a store nearby that I
would compare to a Trader Joe's. Okay, And you find
that as you go to that store more frequently. You
sort of talk yourself into the weird stuff, like, oh,
that's kind of that's kind of interesting. Maybe I'll give
that a shot. So I certainly get the allure. I've
had bad experiences at Trader Joe's, but if there were

(01:03:39):
one yearby, I'd probably go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
I'm full of a We have a bunch of questions.
Somebody asked about the weirdest place I fell asleep an infant,
But weird. It's not weird, are the questioner? I think?
Is it Kelly? Old friend Kelly, And by old I
mean the number of years, not the person being old. Sure,
it appears that she fell asleep in a dental chair,

(01:04:04):
which would be tough. I could do that. I've fallen
asleep on his playmat while playing, but not in public,
not from being deprived of sleep. Other sleep questions. Best
strategy for sleep with a newborn You gotta take turns,
gotta take turns with your spouse. You got to get
windows in. I would strongly recommend not a sponsor, but

(01:04:25):
sleep training. And the one we used is a program
called Taken Kara Babies. It's a woman named Kara, and
it was great. Little man was sleeping before Jody with
and I went back to work. Sleep. How do you
accomplish it? Ty, how do you accomplish it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Man, I'm not good. I'm the wrong person. Ask this
question too. When have you slept the best? Is? What
has been your preparation?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
My preparation has usually been about five nights of not sleeping.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Well, sure, deprivation not recommended strategy. Medically now, that's my answer.
I don't have a bill. That's your answer. It's that's
the best time you sleep. I would say exercise, drinking
plenty of water. Obviously we're a pro hydration show. Maybe
some meditation, you know, not looking at the blue light devices,
your iPad, your your phones, whatever, your tablet's TVs, within

(01:05:11):
like twenty minutes before bed, do some reading.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
There are some podcasts that I can listen to that'll
put me to sleep asap.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
But it's the maintenance. You got to stay asleep too,
got to stay asleep. That's a problem. Yeah, and breathing exercises.
Let's do really really go for it. Let's do two
more here quick? Okay, two more quick? Do you want
to do? You have any questions that you'd like to answer.
Here's one. No, I got one from Heather. Will you
be continuing the two s cruse next season? The answer

(01:05:39):
is yes, with an asterisk. With an asterisk, We're not
revealing the asterisk yet. That is correct, factually correct. There
will be some There will be a big picture show,
yes that like we are doing this season, but beyond that,
we have no further comment, Heather. Sorry, Zach wants to
know where he should eat in Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Oh man, don't ask me this question. You're you're way
more in tune with Philly restaurants.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
I'm actually I'm not that great, but uh, South Philly
Barbicoa for Mexican and pizzeria, it's either Bettia or Badilla.
B E D D I A are on my hit list.
And for a nicer place, zahav z A h A V.
I like Della Sandro's for cheese steaks. Nice. What's your

(01:06:27):
preferred cheese steak arrangement.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
I'm not a big cheese whiz guy same to be honest,
but I know since it's like the official Philly cheese
steak recipe, whiz wit is what I go with.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
MMM. So that's the cheese steak. You get the wiz
and you get the onions. Yeah, I would leave out
the whiz. I would do like the white American cheese
or whatever. It is the closer to food option. I
just me. Ryan wants to know if he goes to
the Cotton Bowl, so I presume he is Penn State
or Memphis fan. Would it be better to stay in
Dallas and go to Austin for a day So I guess,

(01:07:04):
fly to Dallas and do a day trip in Austin
or stay in Austin and go to Dallas for the game.
I would offer, see what we did, ty, Yeah, I
thought we did it great. That was fun. You only
do the drive once this way because it's it's three hours.
But that's again speaking of asterisk. There's traffic, there's it depends.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
It depends where you're coming from. It depends where you're
coming from. Austin is not always the cheapest flight, so true,
depending on your on your situation and what you want
to spend. I would agree with Dan. I would I
would go to Austin and I'd make the trip up
to Dallas for the game. And if you stan of
Dallas and fly out of Dallas, stay in Dallas, flat
of Dallas. But if you can fly to Austin, rent

(01:07:47):
a car and drive up to Dallas. The drive might suck,
but we enjoyed going to Buckis. We had a lot
of fun sure on that drive up, So that was
that was a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Got some in and out. Yeah, this is best burger chain.
I'm such a bad person. If not fly to Dallas,
enjoy Dallas bone appetite food restaurant city of the Year,
Go to the game, hopefully have a good time, and
then drive down to Austin, you know, for twenty four
or forty eight hours, and maybe fly out of Austin
if that's a better option. Do what's affordable.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
I have a question here to close out the show. Okay,
this is actually something final question. This is actually something
that you and I need to talk about and haven't yet.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
We've long joked that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
We should do a board of Directors meeting podcast where
we talk shop and no one would listen, but it'd
be for our own amusement.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Right, So this is kind of in that vein.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
But you know, since we've made it through a full
calendar year, now, where are we going next year for
our live shows?

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Where would you like to go? Or should we open
it up to people, let us know where we should go.
We should open it up to people. We haven't done
a West Coast show yet. We haven't. I would love
I mean, I've loved all of our shows, the fact
that people came in from all over to go to
see us in Dallas, DC. We had people throughout the

(01:09:09):
South coming to see us in Atlanta, throughout the Midwest,
SUS in Chicago obviously, we've got a lot of people
in the Tri state area here in New York. I'd
like to do a West Coast show if I had
to go back somewhere. I had a great time at Minneapolis,
by the way, I would love to see Minneapolis in
the summer. It was awesome. Yeah, that was a lot
of fun. That was great. It was great too because

(01:09:30):
we were indoors and they had heat. It's great brewery,
great food, great pizza. Somewhere on the West coast, LA
or Portland or Bay area, I don't know, somewhere like that.
And then Chicago's real fun. Chicago is fun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
See. I have a really hard time with this one
because it's around that time of year where we have
to start.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I'd like to do another New York one that's easy
for me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I feel like I want to hit everywhere. I know
we can't, but the West Coast is definitely on the
short list. We've had people ask us we'd love to
do la let us know where we should go next.
There's no hard and fast answer. Soliverble at gmail dot
com want us know your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Will go somewherever we go. There will be air conditioning
in the middle of August, Yes for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeah, soliverbgmail dot COM's the email. Can also hit us
up on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and on Thesoliverble subreddit at
Soliverble dot reddit dot com. Get in on the bull.
Pick a pool to bowl confidence pool. We're going to
start previewing games on Sunday. The first twelve or thirteen
games are going to be on the docket. We'll do
our best to run through those. The Bull gifts any

(01:10:37):
oddities around these games that you might need to know,
as well as our own personal formulas for dealing with
how the hell do you pick this many games?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Sure? So there you go for.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
That guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubisy for
myself to Hilton Brand.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
We'll catch you all on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
In the meantime, enjoy the rest of your week, all
of your weekend, and the meantime stay sof

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Enjoy your service, Academy and FCF Saturday Peace,