The May Q&A Episode - Best College Football Podcast - The Solid Verbal College Football

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me. I'm
a man, I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
For I've heard so many players say, well I want
to be happy.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
You want to be happy for a day? Edo Steak
is that woo whoo? And them and tie Dan Rubinstee,
welcome back to the show. I wanted to congratulate you
on your triumph in dentistry. I heard you had a
thank you again.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, my old fashioned yanka of a snaggletooth out of
a six year old's mouth.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, it was. It was.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
It was a little bit uh in a public place too,
no less in public at Mother's day brunch. It was
snaggling and I was like, you know what, I'd rather
just do away with all the snaggling. And I said,
all right, can I pull that out? And he goes, yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Did you have appliers on hand? Like? What was the
apparatus used here?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Do you just knowing analog man digits?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, he had ice water switching around his mouth.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
We were all good.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't know if that's medically advised, but that's where
we went with it.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, we do have dentists who listen to the show,
so chime in solid verbal at gmail dot com. What
is still your thoughts among many others. Yeah, today is
a Q and A episode. We're not going to talk
about Dan's dentistry. We are going to talk about the
questions that came into us via the Verballer hood out
at verbolers dot com. We have been doing one of
these Q and A episodes once a month here in

(01:24):
the offseason. We've been doing it that way for god
knows how many years now. We've got a bunch of
great questions that I am excited to dive into with you.
Of course, for Ballers dot com is where you can
go if you want to further support what we do.
That is our Patreon with the bonus episodes and the
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you certainly know the drill. If you're listening to this episode, Dan,

(01:44):
you know what today is.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
By the way, May twelfth, according to somebody on our discord,
which should provide for a nice easy transition for you.
I think today is the equinox between the National Championship
Game and week zero. Okay, so the like the autumnal equinox,
I believe is the halfway point between something in something
fall in summer or something summer and I don't know,

(02:07):
but yeah, this is the halfway point exactly according to
somebody on our discord. So we made it this far,
and so we're celebrating that date with Q and a beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well, uh, welcome to the Equinox. Let's dive into our
question basket.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Congratulations, Skippy, you've got mail, You've got mail on the
solid ruble.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You know, the drill folks would like to pay sweet
homage to the fine for ballers who chime in. You know,
sometimes we put a call out across all of our
social channels on days like today, on this regal Equinox occasion, Dan, Yeah,
we saw it. We thought it was only fitting to

(02:51):
seek out questions from the for bowlerhood ofverbowlers dot com. Again,
pay for the privilege of controlling the direction of this show.
Privilege to do this. Yes, I got a bunch of
great questions here. Let's start with Thomas, as we close
in on one hundred days until week zero, what are
you looking forward to most about this upcoming season? Also,

(03:12):
man bit of a zag here, will the SEC finally
go to nine games and save some of their quote
secondary rivalries like Georgia, Auburn. What's he got here? Bama Tennessee,
I guess sure, and Texas A and M and Texas.
He used different abbreviations that I am used to. I'm

(03:33):
not gonna lie Bama, UTK, I'm assuming that's Tennessee Knoxville,
and TAMU, which is Texas A and M versus UTA,
which I'm assuming he is University of Texas at Austin.
So two good questions here, Dan, What are you looking
forward to?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I guess because they're both UT's right, So they're adding
Thomas ad in the yes the letter Tennessee and Texas.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
What am I looking forward to this season?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Okay, So speaking, I'm always looking for the emergence of
quality quarterbacks. I'm always looking for the emergence of new
bad blood because of the movement in this sport. I
enjoy when suddenly this team hates that team, and vice versa.
So I appreciate that as long as nobody is getting
you know, headbudted with a helmet without a helmet or

(04:21):
something insane, I enjoy new bad blood. I enjoy crazy endings,
new kinds of crazy endings. As rules change in overtimes,
as we saw last year with Georgia Georgia Tech later
on in the season. Those are the like Genaire, I
could listen to a million generic things, but I'm looking
forward to the fact that if we're going to take

(04:41):
anything positive from a competitive standpoint from the amount of
team and player movement, that maybe there is a higher
floor for a lot of these teams because they're able
to address needs and add depth pieces. As we saw
and as we've seen these last few year that you know,
there seems to be anecdotally fewer number one, number two,

(05:05):
number three teams in the country winning every.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Week fifty six to thirteen.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
That there are more competitive games between the halves and
maybe the sort of halves, And I appreciate that. I
appreciate getting moments. You know, Oregon goes thirteen to oh
last year but had to take every single second to
beat a team like Wisconsin who was nothing special last season.
But the right week at the right place can be
pretty dangerous. So I look forward to those moments specifically

(05:34):
this year. The things I'm looking forward to is seeing
the potential of guys that kind of exploded last year,
right or seeing the potential scene through John Matti at Oklahoma,
Darien Mensa now at Duke. You know, Lenora Sellers is
going to have to do literally everything for South Carolina,
it seems at times on offense, given what they lose

(05:55):
on both sides of the ball. Guys like that obviously
seeing you know, how transfers fit into their new place
and new coaches or second year coaches like the for Animal,
you know, replicating some of that early success. But by
and large it's the new and last year is new,
jumping on what they already were able to show last season.

(06:16):
That always gets me going.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I think I am. I am most excited first
and foremost to watch the Big Twelve outside of my
own teams. I'm just I've been enamored with the Big
Twelve ever since they changed up the conference alignment because frankly,
I don't think anybody knows anything about it and just
seems again like another one of those years where it's
anyone's game, and I think that makes it interesting. So

(06:41):
I'm in. I'm very much in on that, I guess.
To that point, am curious to see who this year's
Arizona State is, not necessarily in the Big Twelve, but
just college football as a whole because they came out
of nowhere. Sure came out of nowhere, went into the playoff.

(07:02):
We had that great playoff game, right Arizona State caught
a lot of people by surprise. Clearly the lose cams
Kataboo like, they've got kind of a different equation that
they got to deal with this season. But they should
be one of the better teams in the conference. But
at this point, they're kind of more of a known quantity,
right Who is going to be the team either in
the Big twelve or anywhere else in college football? It

(07:22):
could even be a G five school that becomes that
dark horse, comes out of nowhere, turns into America's team
within the span of like three weeks, and suddenly they're
the underdog that everyone's rooting for in the playoffs. There
will be a team like that this year. There always
is mm hmm. I'm curious to see who it is.
And maybe as we get a little bit closer and

(07:43):
as we start talking through previews and whatnot, maybe we
can figure out or take guesses as to who that
team might be. But I think just given what we
saw last year, that's something that's front of mind for me,
you know, what I love.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
By the way, I just want to know who this
team is the Jesse breaking bad. They can't keep getting
away with it. A team I think it was USC
a couple of seasons ago where they were like, hey,
they're plus twenty seven and turnovers. It doesn't make sense
at some point that they're not going to be able
to count on getting three or four interceptions a game
to seal off wins. But who's that team whose record

(08:14):
is perhaps inflated? But I kind of appreciate that too.
Find wins however you can find them. It's a short season.
There's a lot on the line every week, and so
I always appreciate when a team is sort of out
kicking their expected wins, expected performances because of turnover luck,
because I don't know that sort of means that we're

(08:35):
getting more close, weird games because maybe a team isn't
built to do something on offense, but they keep getting
short fields and taking advantage.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I like the wild variance of this sport, and so
give it all to me this year's Indiana that wasn't
a turnover luck team, But like, who is that perennially
downtrodden program that's just like, yeah, they've got a super
easy schedule or an advantageous schedule, and they took advantage
and they made tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of
people happier than they normally are in the fall watching football.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
That is why how could that ever be a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, it's a bad thing if your team loses to them,
but of course otherwise, no, it's a good thing. To
the second part of Thomas's question here about the SEC
going to nine games, I don't know if you saw
some of the reports that have circulated. Ross Dewnger or
friend over at Yahoo I think was the one who
wrote up some of these scenarios. If not, I'm sure
Ross has talked about it at some point. Ross is

(09:31):
very much in the know with all things college football.
There is seemingly a proposal, an offer, I don't even
know how else to characterize it, a report that ESPN
would be willing to tack on an additional fifty to
eighty million dollars per season that is above and beyond

(09:55):
what they're already paying the SEC, which is about eight
hundred and eleven million dollars annually. If they were to
move to nine games, so more inventory, right, more sem
hate to use that term inventory, It makes me sound
like a business guy. I'm not business term. Yeah, that's
not me, but you get the point, right, it's another
SEC game. Maybe some of these rivalries, as Thomas mentioned,

(10:16):
are ones that are included kind of in that crop
of games. My first thought when I saw the reports.
They also seem to be lined up with other commentary
out there, other speculation out there that the college Football
Playoff could expand to sixteen before long. Yes, right, so
we just got twelve last year in twenty twenty six.

(10:40):
Now apparently we're going to go to fourteen. Maybe by
the time twenty six rolls round, we're actually going to
be at sixteen. Okay, that's how quick this thing is expanding.
My assumption is when it was sixteen with like the
addition of auto bids, with the addition of autobits, right, yeah,
My expectation is the SEC is going to look into

(11:04):
what that means for them. They're just concerned about cannibalizing
themselves and locking more of their teams out of the playoff.
They want to get as many and as humanly possible,
and so they don't want to go to a move
like this, even if they get more money, that's going
to potentially limit their upside with respect the championships and
playing for meaningful football games in the playoff.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
With whatever championship weekend looks like, with whatever that Suddenly
we're now considering top four teams in conferences and number
three is playing against number four, and five is playing
against six, and there's a playing championship game for conferences,
and it's all very complicated.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I just it's super convoluted. All I will say to
it is this, Yeah, the SEC will do this eventually,
especially if now we're starting to hear dollar figures and
it seems compelling. They will do this so long as
they are not locking themselves out of the playoff, so
long as they get guaranteed at a certain number of
their teams will be in and that it's not going

(12:02):
to be held against them when some of their teams
that are playing tougher schedules than other schools around the
country will not be penalized for losses, or penalized for
close games, or really penalized at all. Right, that's when
this will happen.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
B Man sixteen, who is the number sixteen team last
year was Clemson. Obviously they worked their way in by
winning their conference. But that's like BYU was seventeen South Carolina,
fifteen Ole miss fourteen, thirteen Miami's like teams that were
obviously talented, but you know, because it was a week here,

(12:39):
a week there, a down performance here, a down performance there,
and lost in some sort of embarrassing fashion there to
this team that they shouldn't have lost to. What you're
doing is you're eliminating excitement, right, You're eliminating stakes. You're
I mean, this is more top twenty five teams in
than not so at least with twelve. You're saying like, oh,

(12:59):
it's at least a little bit scarce among the top
twenty five teams. Barely uh so finishing, you know, adder
near the top four of your conference and being happening
happened to be in the right conference. Great for you,
Good for you. I just I really don't understand who
this is for. I don't understand how this is additive
to anybody but the folks running, you know, anybody who's

(13:22):
buying advertised what.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Did we say, provacic from.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
The huge the Milani version or the fugitive verse fugitive version. Okay,
yeah that I mean, it's just I don't know, man,
you just it. We're going to We're gonna have to
do a whole show.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Here's what I'm saying. I'm not gonna start over here. Yeah,
when you just hit rewind, hit rewind.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
This is all a study in the law of unintended consequences,
sort of like we had last year with teams rocketing
up the rankings while not even finishing in the top
twelve like Clemson. Uh, we're going to get to the
point where the ratings are going to take a hit
going against the NFL, and that's not gonna matter too
much because it's still what was your word inventory for advertisers.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
And for these allages.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Add value for sure, shareholder value. It just it all
feels like it's they can't help themselves, networks conferences whatever
they're like, well, whatever the consequences are, they are, But
as we see it right now, everything is great, Like, yes,
there is that one date that we shouldn't schedule games
on because that is the don't schedule games because the

(14:36):
Krakens will appear out of the core of the Earth
to swallow up these seven states. But counterpoint, what if
we did and then the kraken comes out of the
earth and swallows up these seven states. So that's every
time we have two teams in the BCS A four
team plava, there's always gonna be unintended consequences, and yet
here we are adding to the playoff with more uninten

(15:00):
in consequences.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Whatever they may be.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
We can do a special show theorizing what those may be, yea,
But here we are adding for the sake of adding.
Everybody gets three losses and that's fine and we move forward.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't know how I feel about sixteen. I used
to love sixteen back in the day of the old
Dan Wetzel model. Remember that, you know where every conference
at the.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Time all through sec TI, It's all going through them.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Every conference would have a representative and they were played
on campus, and it was much more of the FCS
style the way they run that set of playoffs. Obviously,
we're not there, we're not going there anytime soon. I
like sixteen in that capacity, But now where we're there's
like horse trading going on to figure out how many
auto bids versus how I.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Don't know, get a national championship on Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Why not? God, yeah, we'd both be single on that
Valentine's Day if our act season goes that long. Absolutely correct.
Let's go to Brent. My wife and I are expecting
our first child at the end of June. A Brent gratulations,
my congratulations since we're big Auburn fans, but I don't
think I'll be able to spend entire saturdays binging college

(16:07):
football anymore. Besides listening to the solid verbal Thank you, Brent,
appreciate that. What are your tips and tricks for not
missing out on too much of the action around the
country during our first season as a family of three?
Any parenting tips, Dan, this is going to get deep quick.
Any parenting tips and tricks are also appreciated. We're excited
for the arrival of our little Tailgate buddy and can't

(16:29):
wait to show them the agonizing life we've chosen as
Auburn fans. Thanks guys, love the show. Thank you, Brent.
Congratulations again to you and yours. Hope everything goes well
at the end of June. Dan, Sure, look, I got
two dogs. I can offer no commentary on anything that
Brent asked about here so you love your furry bitches. Though,
do love the furry bitches. They're wonderful. But yeah, I

(16:50):
cannot comment on this. This is a little bit more
specific to you. So what do you got for Brent?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, So just specifically in the lane of college football,
watch if like, you don't have to stick your kid
in front of the TV. But it's like a fun
new thing, like bop around the living room carrying your
new son or daughter or whatever. And it adds a
lot of perspective. You're not going to throw your kid
when you're upset, like you might like a nerve football
that you're holding.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
So that's good. It adds perspective.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
The highs will feel better and the lows won't be
as disappointing as they always are for every team Auburn
has given them, given Auburn fans a good amount of
lows recently in the way that they've they've lost, and
the interceptions and the Peyton thorn and the Hue free
you know. But with regard to your new schedule, you

(17:38):
circle Auburn, and maybe you circle a headline game that day.
I would my suggestion, my semi solicited suggestion, do everything
you can to get that kid sleeping through the night,
he said, obviously, But I don't know sleep training worked
really well for us. Every kid is different, every couple

(17:58):
is different, every as different, but everybody's happier when that
kid is sleeping. You're you're happier, the kids happier, your
marriage is happier. Get that kid asleep. I think you
can start pretty quickly, you know, a few weeks in
doing the sleep training thing, and you know, look up
different methods and figure out what's best for you and yours.
But uh, I get out for walks. You know, fresh

(18:21):
air is really good during the season. I would eliminate
pregame shows unless you are just so so into pregame shows,
if they're just a thing you happen to, kind of like,
I would just eliminate them, and unless we do.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
One, unless we do If we do one, then then Brent,
we're gonna ask you to listen, or even if you
don't actually actively listen. H of course, you know, just
give us the download. That'd be helpful. It'd be great obviously.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, figure out your TV provider and what they can
do for you on mobile so you can go for walks,
so you can be at the park or whatever, and
you have like a four or five month old. The
kid's not gonna be on the swings or anything that often.
But get out and about look at the look at
your phone or iPad or whatever. It's not the end
of the world. If Auburn's not the playing not playing

(19:08):
a big game and you're missing it.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I would just as far as the watching thing Auburn
big game, get the kids sleeping on a regular schedule,
because if your kid's going to sleep at six thirty
seven every night and sleeping through the night, you can
catch up at that point.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
You can listen to the to the midnight stream.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
You can listen to the midnight I don't know for
a new parent, if your kid is sleeping, sure, but
if you're a new parent, you gotta get your sleep too.
So maybe to get you the next morning, watch the
next morning. The only thing that I would offer to
Brint here is this.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, you need to give yourself at least a little
bit of a grace period with your wonderful new offspring
to determine if the child is a good luck charm. Okay, Oh,
I'm very serious. I'm very serious about this.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Objectify your kid as quickly as possible.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yes, you need to find out if your child is
good luck charm for the Auburn Tigers, because that obviously
will have benefit for you as a fan. But if
word gets out on the message boards speaking of objectification, yeah,
have a nice little business opportunity on your hands here. True,

(20:21):
if your child is able to pull off the miracle
that is making Auburn football good again, Sky's the limit, man,
That's true.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I'm trying to think of any other tips and tricks.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
That's all I'm saying. Sky's the limit here.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Here's what else I'm saying. There's no shame if you
are used to watching college football all day. There's no
shame in the like twelve to twenty one minute YouTube
recaps watching those after the fact, the ones that.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Are illegally created. No, not at all legal or illegal.
We use those all the time. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Do your thing, shut out wheels, shout out wheels. There's
no shame in that. And so if you are out
at like a playgroup or something, and Auburn's on by
that week and your kids playing with other little kids,
you know, sort of not really playing. But if you're
four months old and you happen to come home and
it was Ohio State Texas and you missed it. You

(21:17):
don't need to sit and zoom through the three and
a half hour DVR version of it. Go to YouTube,
watch the twenty one minute. You get the gist, you
get the talking points.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
You'll be good.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
You know, got to watch it right the third downs,
go right to third ty and I have to scrub
through those whole games.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
You don't have to. Don't do it. Micah writes in
can Nick Saban and a commission to study college sports
be the saviors of college football?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I don't see why not done?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Did you see this? I did not a political show.
I don't want to make it a political show. Everything's politics, though,
we do need to talk about things that are relevant
to college football. Nick Saban is going to co chair
a commission to study college sports alongside a gentleman by
the name of Cody Campbell, the Texas tech Booster. The

(22:08):
Texas Tech Booster that is correct. They have been given
no I guess specific edict, which our friend Matt Brown
wrote about today on his Extra Points newsletter, that actually
doesn't bother him, at least in his opinion. You know,
we know and trust and love Matt here on the show.
In Matt's opinion, he thinks it's actually a good thing,

(22:29):
going a fact finding mission and see what you come
back with. This is of course contingent on the other
people on the commission, right, Anything that kind of bleeds
over into the political sphere runs the risk of becoming
more of a performative event as opposed to something that
is actually trying to make anything better. So I guess

(22:50):
we will reserve judgment until we know who else is
on this commission. What I think we can speak to though,
is obviously if you're asking the question about Saban, you
sort of know where Saban's at. He's been here for
a couple of years now talking about how there needs
to be I think, better jurisdiction over nil. He has

(23:11):
argued for some sort of federal legislation to help govern
this whole apparatus. He has openly acknowledged that things have
gotten out I think a lot of us have acknowledged
that it's gotten out of hand. Nobody's really running this thing,
So some proper oversight would go a long way. And
we know from I think one of our previous Q
and A questions. Somebody asked about a college FOOTBA commissioner

(23:32):
and they mentioned Saban. I'm not nominating him for commissioner,
per se. I don't think it should be a former coach,
But there are very few people in college athletics that
have the amount of gravitas as in Nick Saban, especially
in college football. Sure, so I do think he should
be included on something like this, Even if I don't
fully agree with all of his stances, I think he

(23:53):
brings a lot a lot to the conversation. Cody Campbell
is interesting. Cody Campbell tied in with Texas Tech, chairman
of the Board of Regents at Texas Tech. He has
posted a lot over the years with respect to this
very topic. He is very concerned, seemingly about handing too

(24:13):
much power over to the likes of the big ten
in the SEC. I don't know how much of that
has to do with the fact that he is tied
in with Texas Tech, but I can say that both
you and I and many of us listening to this
right now also sharing that concern that these two big
conferences are going to rule supreme, They're going to take
the whole damn thing over in college football is going
to be unrecognizable in fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, Nick Saban is your classic. The SEC has grown
too powerful. He must do something to rein in the
leverage and power and financial dominance of the SEC. He's
that guy. Like, if you don't know anything about Nick Saban,
know this. He is all for really curtailing the power
and prestige of the SEC.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I get a perfect match. I'm just saying that. Mister
Campbell here, given things that he has posted online before,
seems concerned about that. He's concerned about how all of
this could negatively affect Olympic sports, which is clearly going
to go I think below the headline when it comes
to all things of this Presidential Commission. It's going to

(25:17):
be centered a lot around college football, but Olympic sports
are a big deal for many athletes out there, so
he's concerned about that. He believes that the NCAA is broken,
that there needs to be again some sort of federal
bill that has passed that can help govern this thing,
maybe give a little bit of wiggle room to the NCAA,
And it insists with enforcement and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Can we back up for just one second, please please
to the best of your knowledge, because I have an
understanding on in my brain that is maybe wrong.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
A commission's job is what it's to investigate and recommend
to somebody. Right, this is not a governing a commission
that's going to try to assume power. They're investigating what
did you said? Fact finding and they're going to make
recommendations to who exactly who are they to the federal government,
to the college football playoff, to SEC Well.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
What we've seen happen. Okay, what we've seen happen is
everybody likes to talk about this because it's popular to
talk about and nobody actually wants to touch it. You know.
The NCBA, I think, to their credit, would like to
do a little bit more. But the NCBLEA is actively
trying to get as many anti trust exemptions as they
can because they don't want to get sued. Right, That's
the position they've found themselves in very recently, and they'd

(26:31):
like to avoid that under the leadership of Charlie Baker,
however possible. So that is their role in this. But
when it comes to lawmakers, when it comes to people
in power who could ban together and maybe try to
launch some sort of bill or legislation or just some
guidelines for how to go about this. It is not,

(26:52):
for one reason or another taken a political priority, right,
And so yeah, you put a commission out there something
like this. I don't know if there is any specified goal.
I know one way that Matt was thinking about it
in again his newsletter that he sent out earlier today,
is that these types of things can sometimes light a

(27:14):
fire under lawmakers, and you know, depending on who does
and doesn't endorse it, it can give them a little
bit of wiggle room to try to get a bill through.
So if nothing more, maybe it serves as an impetus
to put some more of a formal structure in place
to help govern where things are at now with specifically nil.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
So I'd be curious with regard to this commission. I'd
be curious to know once they do their interviews in
fact finding missions, I want to know the bullet points
of like what they consider to be as specific as possible,
what they consider to be the problems with the sports,
and what are the priorities in terms of what needs

(27:56):
to be addressed. Nick Saban has talked about part of
the reason he got burnt out on coaching at Alabama
and coaching in the modern era of the sport was
I'm paraphrasing here, We'd meet with a recruit and a
prospective Crimson Tide player and the first thing they'd want
to talk about is NIL. And that turned him off
that kids were looking to college football as a means

(28:19):
of both improving as players, improving the draft stock, and
improving their bottom line. And that turned him off in
a way that, again paraphrasing here, might be wrong, that
he felt like it was the first priority of these
players was to see how much money they could be paid,
and then that results in players constantly looking around and
trying to get the best off or even if they're
on South Carolina or Minnesota or cal or something, that

(28:43):
their priority is money above all else. And that turned
Nick Saban off. And maybe I'm wrong in that. So
I'd like to know what they perceived to be the
biggest problems in the sport, whether it's you know, the
transfer portal being like this unregulated mess, whether it's NIL
being this unregulated mess that they're trying to bring in house.

(29:04):
Like That's the interesting thing for me, because part of
the positive thing about where we are as a sport,
and when people look at the transfer portal and how
crazy the movement is in the sport, I see a
lot of the negativity with it. I understand why people
have a negative viewpoint of and I don't disagree with
a good chunk of it. But the thing that I

(29:26):
come back to is the freedom to make bad decisions.
And you read between the lines with guys like Saban
or media members who are down on the current state
of the sport, and it's like, look all these these
thousands of kids, these thousands of athletes enter the portal,
and only this percentage ended up on the same level.

(29:46):
They either downgraded in terms of school size and program
size or didn't even find a home. And I always
think to myself, like, you should have the freedom to
make a bad decision, and because that gives you the
freedom to make a decision that a lot of people
are free to make. Ads move about this sport and
sometimes it's not great. Coaches move about this sport sometimes

(30:08):
it's not great. Obviously, there are contracts in place, and
they're penalties for breaking those contracts in place, and so
I just wonder if this is going to be a
commission that says we need these guardrails, and players need
to be employees, and we need to get more on
paper and be more official, or there's going to be
a general tone of we need to do everything we
can to make it like it was two thousand and

(30:29):
three again, right, And that's insane.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, I mean, look, you're not going to put the
genie back in the bottle with respective players, yeah, earning
endorsement dollars. And to some end, my skeptical brain looks
at the idea to try and cap in il payments
or anything like that as kind of a joke in
and of itself, because guys have been getting paid all along.

(30:52):
It's just sort of llegal now, even though there aren't
rules around it. But this has been happening for a
long time now, it's just out in the open, and
if you try to put it back in the bottle,
guys are still going to get paid. I don't think
that's going to change. No, that's that's we're way past that.
We're way past that. And I also don't think, given
the current climate, that there is going to be a

(31:15):
gigantic push to give players the title of employees. You know,
I think more likely than not this commission will find
some middle ground where they're not employees, but they are
given some perks, you know, as a result of being
college athletes, whether that's medical care, I you know, I

(31:36):
don't know, certainly access to nil and some ability to
make revenue.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
But you're going to need to give players reason to
sign some kind Oh you.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Will, you will, you absolutely will? And who's representing those players?
Like you know? Well, and that's and and so if
it seems like I am tiptoeing around the answer here, Mike,
the reason for that is, first off, we don't know
who else is on the commission. We don't know it's
going to be serious people.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Right, it's ingenuous nature of it, or if it's going
to be performative.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
I would like to know who the representatives are, who
those voices will be that will stepping in and be
a voice for the players. Right. There's just a lot
that we don't know about this. I don't let's put
it this way. I don't think the theory of having
a commission to study college sports is a bad idea, right,
I actually think that's a good idea. That's a great thing.
We should have done this a while ago. What will

(32:27):
the result of it be. That depends on who is
on the commission. That depends on, you know, what they
determine their goal to be as they get a little
bit deeper into this thing. I do think it would
be helpful to have some sort of federal legislation to
help govern this thing right now, because no one's governing
it at present, so having some structure and some rules

(32:49):
that everybody has to play by. I know Cody Campbell
has written about how state laws vary greatly from place
to place, and that can affect nil in one place
versus another, and it something that maybe could sit above
all of that and make it a little bit easier
to understand, so it's more uniform. I don't see that
necessarily as bad thing. Devils and details, mind you, right,

(33:12):
But we'll see what they can work out. You know,
Saban's serious about this. I know again, Cody Campbell's been
pretty serious about it with what he's put out there.
Whether you agree with him or not, these at least
to start two guys who are co chairers, we know,
take this seriously. We'll see what the rest of it
looks like. But I'm curious as you are to see

(33:33):
where it goes next.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, sidebar. A couple things about Cody Campbell, whose name
I had heard before, but not nothing as serious as
now that his name is more out there because of
how Texas Tech approached the transfer portal this year and
how the spending that the Red Raiders and Red Raider
Collective put forth. Sidebar about him, he's on the younger side. Yes,
he's of your generation. I think he graduated in four

(33:58):
to five, so he's both of our generation. But the
sidebar to the sidebar, well, okay, first off, I like
that he's on the younger end because if you were
dealing with somebody who was also seventy sixty, you know,
somebody a little bit older. As a college football fan,
you tend to get people who are deeply entrenched in
the like kids these days kind of attitude, and that's

(34:20):
not great. So I can appreciate that he's younger. He's
made Tie hilden Brant money, and he's trying to do
the best thing possible for college football. The sidebar to
the sidebar unbelievable dedication to the go tee. Did you
see have you seen a picture of him? He's not
Futson around, He's not Oh, I'm gonna try it.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
He is a goatee guy, capital G, capital G. This
is my capital L. Look, it is segull esque and
he has planted a flag in the ground. So for
whatever you believe about Cody Campbell and his potential impact
on the sport, you know that he is going to
take a stand and stick with it. He has grown

(35:02):
out of go tea. He is locked in. I don't
know if it was graying and he died a black.
I don't know if he just has great genes and
it is a dark black, you know, deeply thick go tea. No,
it's it's it's proto day. It's way beyond Ryan Day.
It's the the immediate thing was more like Segal Chuck

(35:26):
Norris TV karate type of actor.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Go tee. No, you have to have a certain level
of intensity to go with something like that.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
This is Cody Campbell, Texas Ranger. Yeah, and so whatever
you can take from that in terms of his priorities
on a commission, he is ah. He is a man
dedicated to a cause, and that cause is a ring
of hair around his mouth.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Ellie writes in are we inadvertently devaluing quote elite teams
in the transfer portal and nil era context, the discussion
by just about everyone in the media revolves around how
super teams i e. Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State don't have
as much depth as they used to. Therefore there's more parody.

(36:17):
Parody here being used as a way to imply that
teams are weaker, thus implying that a pre twelve team
playoff champion was more of a champion than those that
come after. Okay, interested to hear your thoughts, I'll prime
you with one of mine. The fact that Nick Saban
left the sport when he couldn't hoard all the talent anymore,
and Kirby Smart can't just steamroll everyone when his four

(36:40):
stringers aren't more talented than the opponent starters says more
about those coaches than it does about the rest of
the sport. So perfect segue talking about Sabin. Now we
go to Ellie's comment here about Nick Saban, Kirby Smart
and where college football is at. So are we devaluing
the better teams?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Dan devaluing saying they're they're not as good because they're
not as deep, when meanwhile, they're still the ones who
are doing all of the winning.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yes, probably a little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
And I think the best of those teams sort of
helps to shape our perceptions of what, you know, the
number two team in the country should look like. And
you know, the best of LSU with Joe Burrow steamrolling
everybody sixty to ten, or the best of Alabama doing that,
you know, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty with Tua and Mac Jones,
the best of Georgia doing that, just completely flattening teams

(37:34):
with that defense and you know, very efficient offense at
the very least with Stetson Bennett, and so that it
colors how we perceive those teams. And I just I
think they're still dominant. I think they're still the unquestioned
top of the sport, but it does seem like they're
a little bit more vulnerable because of what other teams

(37:57):
in their conference can do. And I think also we're
in an era where all of these coaches are so
burned out on their responsibilities and all of these rosters
are so different year to year. So if you take
the dominant teams, like it wasn't Joe Burrows first season
at quarterback for LSU when he was leading that charge

(38:18):
with all those receivers. Those guys were together for at
least a couple of years, and it was I think
it was Joe Brady's first year there. But like the
talent was in place, and so a lot of these
places are dealing with shuffling in and out of guys now,
places like Georgia and Ohio State less so, you know
Ohio State famously less so not taking it a ton

(38:39):
of transfers to win the national championship. But I think
you go back to like USC and all those guys
are together for a long time. You go back to
like the Texas team that was steamrolling teams with Vince
Young and then Colt McCoy, Like they were together for
a long time, and the job as a head coach
was just easier back then. And so with a lack

(39:00):
of continuity on these rosters and the job of a
head coach changing dramatically these past few years, it and
as mentioned in the email that opponents, are you better
equipped to not have to deal with oh our secondary
is a complete disaster. No position group has to be
a complete disaster anymore if the funding is there. Now

(39:21):
it's harder with certain position groups like offensive line than others.
But I think it's just easier to be decent in
twenty twenty five, which means that you don't see along
the crawl Oklahoma fifty six, Kansas three as often because
the floor is so much higher. But to the point
of this email, I do think we're probably devaluing a

(39:43):
little bit until we see somebody dethrone this, this group
of a half a dozen schools. That it's just though
the types of wins and the types of losses might
look a little bit different, but over the course of
time and over the course of a larger sample size,
it's hard to argue that it's just not going to
be those half dozen schools every year.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, I'm not going to say the exact same thing
as you. Okay, I think I agree with pretty much
everything you said. The only point that I would add
here to what Ellie sent in quote, thus implying a
pre twelve team playoff champion was more of a champion
than those that come after. I don't know if I
have seen many of those implications out there. At least

(40:24):
that's not the way I'm meeting some of the commentary
on this. It's just a different system it's just a
different system, it's a different era altogether. It's a bigger playoff.
We've got nil running them up the transfer portal obviously.
I mean we just spent forty five minutes talking about
the transfer portal. Right, all of these things have had
a drastic effect on college football. Come back to one
of my favorite analogies in sports. You can't really compare

(40:48):
speed skating pre clap skate to postclap skate. Sure, all right,
it's different. It's a different sport altogether. The sport in
this case is the same, but the structure around it
has I think changed dramatically. So I don't make that
I don't go to that extent with it. I understand where,
I understand where this comment is coming from, but I'm

(41:09):
just not there.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Those and those teams, by the way, are still deeper.
Georgia and Ohio State can still weather injuries better than
Michigan State and Arkansas. They can. They just can. That's
just the reality. And it's always been the reality. The
deepest teams, whether it was in the Bowl era, whether
it was in the BCS era, whether it was in
the four team era, they were the ones not dropping

(41:31):
that weird November game. They were the ones not dropping
the conference championship or the semi final matchup. In the
four team playoff, It's always going to be the deepest
teams because short of a quarterback disaster, you can just
weather losing your number one receiver easier, or you're starting
nose tackle easier. When you recruited and developed that developed
well there and have the ability to fortify things in

(41:54):
the portal at a level that most can't, we're gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, I would say it also works the other way
a little bit, a little bit sure, in that if
you are a recruit coming in, if you are good
enough to be recruited and signed with a place like
a Georgia like in Ohio state, of course, everybody wants
to play, but if you don't being at a school
like that, that tends to give you, I think a

(42:20):
little bit more value when you can hit the transfer portal. Sure,
of course. So I think it cuts both ways a
little bit, and it's not necessarily working against you. If
you go to one of those schools and don't play
right away, you can go somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, I mean, that's the start opens that's the pro
player element. Of this all is that you can Georgia
wash your reputation, that you can Michigan wash your reputation,
and your ability to get a second chance somewhere is
probably increased because Jim Harbaugh recruited you, or Nick Saban
recruited you, or Kirby Smart recruited you, or Dan Lanning
recruited you. That you're able to get that opportunity, whether

(42:58):
or not you're at actually any good because you didn't
see the field at one of those places yet to
be seen.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
But yeah, an interesting wrinkle, Mike Ritsin. Given FBS playoffs
continuing to tilt and favor two conferences, do you think
a group of five eight team playoff would generate more
money for these conferences? I feel bad for many of
these schools with a lot of history and scraping for money.

(43:25):
Talking about an NT tournament here right, Well, sort of.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, you're talking about teams that don't make the main
college football playoff. But NT is kind of harsh because
you're talking about teams below like the seventieth best team
in the country threshold.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
It's a secondary tournament, though it would not be the headline.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
The secondary tournament because of the size of the conference
is not necessarily because of the quality of the teams.
If only Boise State is getting in, or only two
Lane or something is getting in, that there might there
may be other teams that are like, clearly of the
quality of the college fotball player off, but just didn't
make it in. I mean, I think it would make
money is the question?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah, I mean this is a question of how much
is it worth to a network, because that's where most
of the money would come from for something like this. Yeah,
you'd sell tickets, people would go to those games. You'd
make most of your money off broadcasting rights. I don't
know enough about G five media rights to know exactly

(44:25):
how much money this could generate for conferences. I can
only speak to it as a fan, right, I can
only speak to it knowing our community. I know our
community would go crazy for this. I know a lot
of people in the deep dark corners of the online
college football universe that would be thrilled if there were

(44:47):
a G five eighteen playoff to close out a season.
You and I would watch the hell out of that.
We'd really be into that. I think that would be fun.
That is totally separate from the question of money. My
guess is that on the money side of things, it
would be tough to make a case for this being
some sort of financial boon. They would probably make more

(45:09):
money than they're making now, which is whatever they get
from bowl games, and that's spread out in some cases
over conferences across many different programs within a school. So
it would be additive, I guess in that sense. But
to treat this as any kind of savior for the
G five level I think would be a bridge too far.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Well, here's the thing, Okay, a couple different factors. When
is this tournament happening. It's happening after conference championship weekend.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I'm assuming it's happening concurrently with the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
You're doing it on like Wednesday nights, sort of like maxin. Yeah,
next question, when does the transfer portal open?

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Right?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Because a TU lane team with Darien Mensa and a
TU lane team playing in a tournament without Darien Mensa
who has a however many million dollar offer on the
table from Duke. This is not to slander mister Mensa.
It's a very different two lane sperience, and it's a
very different experience If Ashton genty gets money to go

(46:05):
to some other school after the regular season. It's a
very not a not being in the college football Playoff.
It's a very different experience. If take your pick star player,
star quarterback, star grouping of players who leave it because
their coaches just left to take a bigger job. You're
now asking people to watch a tournament with teams that

(46:25):
to the detriment of the sport, I would argue, but
it's an unfortunate reality get plundered. So you're like, I'm
gonna watch Wazuo against USF.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Also John Mattier is gone and Jake Dickard is gone.
You're like, I mean, they Wazoo played in a bowl
against Syracuse, I want to say, and it was.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
It was a shootout. They gave up fifty sixty points
or something into Syracuse. But that's not representative of what
Wazuo was in twenty twenty four, and so Tulane in
their bowl game was not necessarily representative. They played Florida,
I want to say, in their bowl game this year,
kind of a weird, uneven matchup, but like, that's not
who tou Lane is. Whereas teams in the College Football Playoff,

(47:07):
by and large, at least as of now, are representative
of who they were during the regular season, And so
I just don't know how much money you're gonna get
behind that kind of tournament, even knowing that football always
rates on TV. But now you're talking about like a
football tournament without a lot of key players, like, yeah,

(47:30):
Duke without Cooper Flag and whoever, I don't know college
basketball players. There's another guy that's gonna be drafted, I
think in the top ten from Duke. But like you're
ultimately watching this too. It's not necessarily because of only
the players, but like you want a team that's recognizable
to what you just watched two or three weeks ago.
And that's the issue right now with something like this.

(47:54):
I guess unless there was some overwhelming amount of money
that suddenly appeared, you know, the DraftKings presents, the FanDuel presents,
the whoever presents, and it's a seventy million dollar perse
or something. I just it's it's hard to understand how
this could happen given the schedule of the sport and
the realities of the sport. I don't hate the idea

(48:15):
of making there be a prize, kind of like they
did in squid game where they hang it above maybe
like the fifty yard line. I think we've talked about
this idea before, but you would almost need a carrot
like that to dangle in front of some of these
guys who, to your point, maybe have big deals to
go elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
You need some sort of motivation to get them to play.
I mean, lord knows, there are plenty of it. But
even still, even it's such a short term carrot. It's
such a short term carrot. I was gonna say, even
still with the college football playoff, we've heard all sorts
of rumors, right, I mean, most recently with Nico. There
are plenty of other ones out there of guys that
you know, maybe threaten all holdout, want to get more money,

(48:57):
maybe don't want to put their body on the line,
with the respect the NFL Draft coming up, that type of thing,
it gets prickly. So let's put it this way to
answer the question. In theory, yes, you and I would
watch the hell out of it from.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
A money standpoint, no idea.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
And I actually think to your point, the question of
the transfer portal and who's leaving, who's going, who even
wants to be there, that's probably the biggest flying the
ointment here.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Right, and there's no way for any key player to
not look at this as an NIT type situation. It's
great for fans, it's potentially great for TV, but player
wise that they've given their all, they went nine to
three and now they're playing in an alt tournament instead
of seeing what their market value is at a different

(49:45):
school or the NFL Draft and risking it all to
play you know, Toledo. Yeah, no again, I use that term.
I say Toledo in that tone unintended, unintentionally, but you
are weighing your future at that point in the season,
in mid December, and you're saying to yourself, am I

(50:05):
doing this for me and my family and my future?
Am I doing this for my school?

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Like?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Is this a pride point for San Diego State Football
that we win the Draft Kings Invitational?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I don't know. On the CW, let's go a couple
more here and then maybe we'll save our spillover for
the bonus episode we'll drop a little later this week.
Efrin writes in how would y'all compare college football fans
and atmospheres to soccer fans and atmospheres outside the United States?
Such as Argentina huge Georgia fan, love going to the games,

(50:41):
but I think often that college football atmospheres could be
a little overrated. Interesting, Okay, so look, I will say,
full disclosure, I have not been to a soccer match
outside of the United States.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
I've been to the Boca Junior Stadium in Buenos Aires,
but I did not go to a match, mostly because
you're hearing my voice right now. So obviously I didn't
go because who knows what could have happened.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
That's right. So I can't speak to it first person
on the ground give you that perspective. I just can't.
But you know, I care a lot about this and
this is something this is, this whole soccer thing is
something that I think I understand the ecosystem of pretty well.
I have often said on this show that I think

(51:27):
the major soccer leagues in Europe, South America that is
probably the closest cousin of college football. Okay, just in
the passion that emanates from the crowds as you are
watching those matches at home. It is palpable. I would
say that in many of these places, soccer football, whatever

(51:52):
you want to call it, is the main thing. It
is the main thing, the main thing, the main thing,
the main thing. So you have pockets in our country
here that I think treat college football as if it
were soccer and say, you know someplace in northern England, right,
but it's not like that all over. There are just

(52:14):
far too many sports here to distract people or just
I mean there are distractions in northern England too, there are.
But in terms of sports, Dan okay, that is the
main show. College football does not quite have that importance
across the country like a sport like soccer does, let's
say in Germany. But there are certainly pockets around the

(52:34):
country I would say in the South that definitely give
off those vibes. So to answer the question here, I'd
stop short of saying it's overrated. I would say it's
very dependent on where you're at, where you're watching a game.
If you're watching an SEC game, if you're at LSU
watching a night game, that's going to give you a

(52:54):
much louder experience than you would, I think experience if
you went on out too, like a Manchester United game
something like that like that, that would be much more
comparable than say if you went to a Syracuse game,
which is probably a little bit louder the JMA wireless Dome.
No offense to the fra annibal, right, but you're just
not going to get the same experience. So I think
it's very dependent on your geography.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
A few things about college football, because I saw stories
about like Ohio State's looking to up. It's you know,
after the Oregon game, they're looking to up It's in
stateium atmosphere. I can't help but to think from Afar,
I'm so willing to be corrected on this, but from Afar,
it seems like there is more of a monoculture to
international football fandom, as you mentioned, like entire towns, you know,

(53:40):
shutting down where some some towns do shut down, some
towns don't. But the I think it's more heterogeneous in America.
Like you go to a college football game and you
see a lot of what I consider to be like.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
The vest and Crest crowd.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, like an older crowd, the crowd that maybe they're
retired and they love following their team around. They take
great pride in their university and they're wearing that like
coaches polo. And it depends on the school. It depends
on what the culture of the fandom is at that school,
but we're not talking about ninety four percent of the

(54:19):
stadium is filled with loud, twenty eight year olds. That
there's a student section. It depends what the student culture
is around college football. It depends if it's a football school.
In general, there's basketball schools, there's baseball schools, there's take
your pick sports schools. Whereas in international soccer, international football,

(54:39):
whether it's Argentina, whether it's somewhere in Europe, whether it's wherever,
that there does seem to be this full agreement that
this place is shutting down for this match culture. And
you mentioned Syracuse Basketball school. I'm sure if you are
comparing basketball at Syracuse to basketball somewhere internationally, maybe would

(54:59):
ring little bit truer. There's no football game that I
know of that's shooting off flares and smoke in the
same way that you're seeing in Turkey and other places.
Though we have had mustard bottles, that's something golf balls.
I just I think it's a different animal, but it's
you're right, the closest thing we have. Yeah, there are

(55:24):
specific baseball experiences, specific NFL experiences like Lambeau and Buffalo,
places like that. That feel collegey because of the volume
and craziness of the fans. But there's more in college football. Also,
there's just more schools in college football. I know there's
a ton of clubs depending on the country, but in

(55:45):
terms of the biggest time section of this sport comparatively
to the Premier League or Bundesliga or whatever, I don't
know how many teams are in Bundesliga or LEGA. I
assume it's somewhere in the vicinity of like twenty teams
twenty teams, Yeah, sixty some odd programs that are of
the quote unquote biggest size. And so it's also college

(56:05):
football is also sharing room with the better version of
the sports, that's right. So that's adding in another thirty two.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
That's what I'm saying. I just spreading there are more distractions.
It depends on where you're at. If you're watching a
college football game in Philly, they're going to care more
about the Eagles. If you're watching a college football game
in Syracuse, they are probably going to care more about
the Bills or about Sabers or you know, I don't
know what the basketball team, the Syracuse basketball team, Eyracuse
basketball team, right, Like, there are ample distractions that I

(56:38):
think could pull your interest away from college football, whereas
it's not always really the case in the Premier League,
Whereas you said, there's more of a monoculture. The stadiums
in college to the question of environment, though, are much
much bigger. Yeah, I mean the biggest stadium I believe
in the Premier League is Old Trafford, which is where
a MANU plays, which is about seventy four seventy five thousand.

(57:01):
That's about on the level with Spartan Stadium, with Camp
Randall Stadium, we have really really I mean Arkansas Stadium
I think is around that number as well. These are
big stadiums that we have for college football that I
think adds a whole element of environment that you would

(57:23):
not get if you went to a Premier League game,
just because it is so much bigger and so much louder.
Maybe it's not quite as intense in some cases, but
they're just a lot more people that are at those games,
and I think that you know, obviously has an effect
in the atmosphere as well.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
So do you have a number one place you'd like
to visit?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
No, I don't. I would like to experience a European
football match, I think to be fun.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Okay, you don't want to go see Boca Juniors and
I think it's river Plate there.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I mean that's like a blood feud, isn't it. It's
a blood feud.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I think both of those correct me if I'm wrong.
Both those organizations are by kind of fan led mafia
type organizations.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Yes, so it's pretty intense.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I don't think there's anything quite on that level yet
with college football. I'm not putting it past Cody Campbell
and his glorious goatee and his ilk.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
But Cody Campbell, Texas Ranger, do you see that thing?
If I see it, Oh no, it's great.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I don't say I'm not. I'm not ragging on the
go tee. I appreciate a goateee. I appreciate dedication to
a look, dedication to a look. Mark Davis, Las Vegas
Raiders great by me, dedication to a look. So to
answer that, to put a bow on that, it's just
a different animal. It's just a different animal outside of

(58:43):
the US with international football.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
But I dig it. I dig it.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
As long as people aren' getting hurt, I think it's
great by me and we have places in this sport
that are approaching it relative to other sports in this country.
But no, not quite there.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
This go tea looks like you fed it into chat
GPT and said, put a go tea on this man.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
This looks like the go tee grew a Cody Campbell
rather than Cody Campbell growing a go tee.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
By the way, we do have we do have a
little bit of an announcement. Do we not tie?

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I don't know. On the heels of that.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
On the heels of that, I don't know. I mean
heels is a good word. We are officially banned from
the North Carolina facility we received word. By the way,
I think the coo of Bill Belichick Productions not licensed
in any state is competing in the Miss main pageant.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Was second. She was second runner up.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Second runner up, which means third place.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I don't I can't do that math. Well, runner up
is second place. We know we can agree on that.
Second runner up would be third then yeah, yeah, third place.
There you go.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
It would be shocking at this point if Bill Belichick
coached more than a year in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I don't know. That buyout dips down to a million
dollars in about two weeks, three weeks or so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
His out does not there out no June first. Oh man,
I'm not saying it's happening. I'm saying there is a
non zero chance he never coaches.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
A game for North Carolina. I would agree with that,
non zero three. That'd be great. Okay, that's all I have. Uh,
why don't we save the rest of these questions for
our bonus episode. We're ready up here over an hour.
Unless there any that jumped out to you that you
want to touch base on. We got some pizza questions here.
You definitely wrote one in here from my mom that

(01:00:38):
my mom did not send in, so we don't have
to answer that. Well, what is one of the pizza questions?

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I'll do a thirty second pizza answer, Dan, if you
were comparing anything to pizza, if the Organ.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Ducks were a pizza, what kind of pizza would they be? Next?
What kind of pizza is Hugh free kind of pizza
is Hugh Freeze? No? Okay, how about this? What kind
of Hugh Freeze is pizza? What kind of Hugh Freeze?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
So Huphrieeses has different eras. Yeah, so if we can
agree that pizza is excellent and great and an added
value to our lives.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
What is the best Hugh Freeze? I can't even get
my brain around this question. Do you have an answer?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah, the best version of Hughphreeze is the version of
Huphrieze that was played by an actor in the blind Side,
right before we knew who Huphrieze truly was. There you go,
that was the best possible version.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
When don't we leave it there? Thank you to one
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(01:01:55):
If you're watching it on YouTube, Oh that'd be great
for me. Definitely. Dan's been killing it out there on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I have a thumbnail ready to go for the next
episode this week that we're doing sark Tank next. Yeah,
we're doing sark Tank's. It's either an all time higher
and all time low.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
We'll see. It's going to be a little bit of both.
I guarantee you I'm excited about this. You know to
some extent what's coming. Have you sent those to Andy?
We have Andy, right, Andy Staples.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
We have Andy recording on Wednesday. I'll send him the
questions in a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Okay, you guys don't know what's coming beyond that, but
you just I wanted to give you a general sense
for what to expect so that you're not caught completely off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
So the concept for Sark Tank this year is Andy
and I are going to be the wealthy Sarks, that's right,
the intellectually wealthy Sarks, and you are going to be
doing the sole pitching.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I'm going to be the chillman. Yeah, I'm maybe the
pitch man. We've got a bunch of different pitches that
we're working up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
So if you're like Clemson National champion, yeah, that's your pitch,
and you're going to explain yourself. Yes, you know, we're
going to try to poke holes in your sales job
and decide whether or not we are investing emotional capital
in your pitch.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
That's right. Last time you and I went back and
forth the kind of feel little bit, you know, it
was a proof of concept thing. It went over well. Yeah,
and so we've had some time to mow over, a better,
better way to go about it, and yeah, I'll have
sounds I've got it's it's it's either going to be
an all time higher and all time wow, it's one
of the others. What we do in the off season. Yes,

(01:03:28):
let's leave it there. Thank you for bearing with us here,
appreciate all of your questions. Head on out timberbowlers dot com.
We'll answer more of these on the Thursday bonus episode.
In the meantime, we will catch you all soon. Come
on back for Sark Tank next episode. As always, stay solid, peace,

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