Volcanic Takes with Josh Pate | College Football Podcast - The Solid Verbal College Football

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the solid verbal call for me.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say,
well I want to be happy. You want to be
happy for a day? Edith state? Is that?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Whoo?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Whoom and Dan and tie? All right, Dan, we call
these home and homes in our universe. We're not referring
to a college football matchup. We're referring to a visit
from a fellow college football podcaster. In some cases on
this show we have had non college football podcasters. But

(00:35):
on today's episode, and I guess you know the version
of it all that we prefer is somebody who knows
college football. We have a first time guest stopping by
here in the soliverbal Do we not we? Do?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
You see the title of the episode. We're having Josh
Payt on from the Josh Payton College Football Show. You've
seen them various platforms and outlets, and he obviously has
done a tremendous job building out his show, and so
pump to have him on and talk. Are we doing takes?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Ty?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Is that the flow of this episode?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
We are doing takes. We are bringing take a toa
Yeah out of its dormant state. Take a toa has
been in my backdrop for about a year and a half,
just chilling out, not erupting, not making a peep, just
hanging out in the backdrop waiting for an episode like this.

(01:30):
The very first one we did was with our fran
Andy Staples from on three. We also threw in some
takes from the Overballer hood as well as ones that
we had, and the idea is it's a volcano, take
a toa. We're throwing all of our hot takes into
the volcano. Correct, very simple, not much more to it
than that. We thought with Josh coming on, this would

(01:52):
be a great time to bring it out of retirement.
You'll see it here behind me. In a moment, I'm
going to try to get it up and running. I
have a fan in here now, so hopefully I don't
inhale whatever vapors come out of it. I'm excited for
this episode. You've got takes, I've got takes. We told
Josh to bring some as well. I did reach out
to our friends out at for ballers dot com or
Patreon v E R B A L L e r

(02:13):
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want to support what Dan and I do. Five dollars,
ten dollars. We have tiers for you if you're interested
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we'll throw some stuff out to those folks as well.
That said, forballers dot Com, if that is not your
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much to do in the way of previewing the college
football season, not just the SEC but Notre Dame and
you con and you and I got to make predictions
at some point, even though we don't know if we
always enjoy doing it, but it is part of the
job here. When we're doing a college football show, we
will get into all of that and much much more
a little bit down the line.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
By the way, if it's not your cup of tea,
make it your cup of tea. Look Tie, even if
you don't like me, support Tie and what he does.
He is grinding NonStop for this show. Make it your
cup of tverballers dot Com continue.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
All right, Dan, So, as you know, every year we
like to do some home and homes. Introduce you to
other friends in the podcasting world in college football because
of schedules. This is the first year in a while
we won't have Dan Carlin for this m.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
M A legend.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
So any questions that I know you've had built up
on Alexander the Great, You're gonna have to defer those
over to our guest of honor today. You know his
name is Josh Pate. Welcome to the solid Verbo, My friend.
How are you?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
I feel so inadequately prepared all of a sudden, How
are you guys?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
How are we doing? We're great, We're doing well. We're
doing well. So this is gonna be a fun episode.
I will explain the backdrop here momentarily for people who
are new to the show. But congratulations to you. I
understand you are newly married.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I am. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
And by the way, we're doing the home and home
not in Germany, but we are actually doing it on
each other's home fields. I just I don't want to
sidetrack us, but given recent events, I did want to
point that out.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
No, I were thinking Mexico City, we were thinking maybe Stad,
maybe Osaka, but I feel like this is probably the
most even handed way to do it.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, we'll grow the game either way.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
So I guess just as a means of introduction for
anybody on our side that doesn't know who Josh Pate is,
can you give me? Yeah, you should, but can you
give me like the fifteen second twenty second elevator pitch
so you can introduce yourself to the verballer hood.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, here we go. I took ten years to graduate college.
We're construction and heating in ac a lot. I decided
I didn't like that and wanted to talk about college
football year round and found a way to make people
listen to me do it somehow, someway that's my bio.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Okay, so what were you best at on the construction
site though?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
So I prefer the fabric warehouse model. Okay, I just construction.
I just sheet rocking. And by the way, woo hawkers
exist on their own planet. The three of us pale
in like comparative conversation to what you would hear on
the sheet rocking side. It'd be seventy percent bleeped. But
it's just fascinating. So but you know, you go unload

(05:23):
the Southeastern Freight truck in the morning, not a sponsor
but could be, and then you just haul those those
rolls of fabric around and then over the span of time,
you realize that your spine is miss aligned because you've
been hauling the rolls of fabric on the same shoulder,
and so you walk around like this and it's no
way to live.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
But that's what I mean of pat.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, now you mentioned heating and cooling. Josh, is there
anything you could do to fix your current situation given
your skill set?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
If you're listening on pod, Thank you so much. I
would actually prefer people not be watching right now. It
is Nashville, Tennessee. It is going to be ninety seven today.
AC has decided to go out and as I told you, guys,
you don't have to worry about this so much. But
someone in the follically disadvantaged position that I am has
a what we call a shine a glisten issue, and

(06:14):
it's it's really rearing its very ugly head this morning.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
But he doesn't look as bad as it feels. If
you're watching this on YouTube, it looks fine.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Camp's open this week. Guys are sweating in one hundred
and ten degrees all over the South. And my complaint
is it's it's pushing seventy seven degrees in this apartment
right now, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh yeah, that's the good stuff. Man.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
All right, so we're gonna we're gonna sweat the takes
out of you.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I like, well this I was gonna say, this is
actually Josh Camp prepared for the assignment. Yes, because here's
what we're gonna do today. For those watching on YouTube,
you might be wondering, is that a model volcano behind Ty?
Good question? The answer is yes. This here is take
a toe up. He is a prominent, albeit infrequent guest

(06:58):
on this show. I chose to build him in my
dining room last year, Josh, which like new marriage tip,
don't try that.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
No.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I put it all on the line to build this thing.
It does work. Like many of the great volcanoes, it
has been lying dormant for the better part of the
last year, if not a little.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Dormant, is not extinct, as Pierce Brosnan taught us.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Absolutely correct. So he's just sort of been lurking in
the background here since it erupted for a few episodes
last season. The premise is very simple. We feed take
a toa where's this at.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Feeds?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
We feed take a toa with our molten hot college
football takes. As I said, it is functional. I do
have this controller here. Hopefully the compound coming out of
it won't kill me. I have a fan this time, Dan,
I came a little bit more prepared.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's it's very admirable, Tie, And now I immediately regret
not calling the entire volcano operation Dan, Tie's inferno. But
you know what that's it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Okay,
I appreciate the remote though. Okay, Ty take it away.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Here is what we told Josh to come armed with
a handful of hot takes for the upcoming college football season.
I've got some, You've got some. I reached out to
our Patreon for ballerhood at for ballers dot com to
get some of theirs as well. There is one on
here that I don't want to tip off too much.
Might be the best one I've heard in several years.
And it's sort of a ricochet shot at another program

(08:27):
as well, which is incredible. So I will get to that,
not to bury the lead.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Another college football podcast or just another show like did
they take a stab at Home Improvement? What did they do?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, No, Another college football program oh okay, okay, it
was sort of a two for one special. So Josh,
just to give you a heads up for some of
the ones that we've had in here in the past
that you need to live up to. Andy Staples was
on last year. He said that Tyler Schuck was going
to be the new Michael Pennock junior. I had that
Jalen Milroe would not finish the regular season as Alabama

(08:59):
starting courter. Oh wow, Dan have I mean he won't
be this year obviously, but Dan had USC missing a bowl,
and someone on our Patreon had Charles chip Kelly as
Ohio State's interim coach, and like the Relaquest Bowl, which
did not have we've gotten some of the best ones
from out on Patreon. So with that being said, mister

(09:21):
Pate being so you're the guest of honor, why don't
you go first?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Here comes.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I've got lava flavored water and lava colored water, just caffeine,
but it fits the theme here. Okay, first up, no
apologies to Pitt whatsoever. I've got Georgia Tech playing for
the ACC Championship. This show could not possibly be higher
on this team. I'm I say it as a take

(09:51):
a toa caliber prediction, not thinking myself, it is a
take a toa caliber prediction.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Those are the best kind, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, I feel comfortable in this position. But I know
a lot of people are going to go, he's clickbaiting.
What do I want you to click on? I don't know,
but he's clickbaiting. So here's the thing, many things. Actually,
I watched this team last year. I think Dan said
this the other day. If they did nothing else other
than beat Georgia in the nineteen overtime game last year,

(10:22):
hardly anyone would think this is bold this year. But
because they didn't finish on the plus side of a
crapshoot coin flip fest at the end of regulation, people
still think they're a dark horse. They're not a dark horse.
They are very, very proven at quarterback. But also, you
got to watch Georgia Tech like three minutes to understand
the full identity of that team. And this is an

(10:42):
acc that is very much in a state of flux
beyond Clemson. And I would also look and I would say, well,
what are their two toughest home games or two toughest
games period? Clemson comes there, Georgia comes there. Outside of
that not that point spreads are the end all be all,
but for broad strokes purposes, we could make an argument
they'll be favored in every game. I fully believe in

(11:02):
the identity of the team, and I also fully believe
that last year, like when they beat Miami, and I
think that was just some fluke. And I also think
that there are a lot of guys I call them
hateful three stars. Georgia Tech is a program built with
a nucleus of hateful three Stars. No one's accidentally playing
for Georgia Tech, like everyone is very purposefully there. I

(11:22):
believe in the mission, and I also, as we're recording,
I think it's very notable that they just extended Buster
Faultner and made him the first seven figure coordinator there.
Guys he was at Georgia totally comfortable elevating would have
gotten big jobs at many plays. He rolled the dice
career wise and went with Brent Key, and it's paid off.
I could not be higher on that team this year.

(11:43):
It wouldn't shock me if they won the ACC but
I thought just having them play for the title was
enough for what we needed today.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I fully agree. You know, I'm high on Georgia Tech.
And there is something about the more I see Brent
Key that I think I think he just eate sawdust
for breakfast, and I kind of love it. I kind
of love everything that he says, and that if you're
gonna fill your roster with hateful three stars, he feels
like the ultimate Hateful three star captain. So I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I don't even think that it is a simmering.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
It is warm.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
It is like when you get your coffee or tea
to the exact temperature you like. It's not scalding hot
because they were good last year and they'd be a
very good Miami team. But I think it's there's a
good amount of heat to that.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, And I think the part that makes it fun
just following Georgia Tech from Afar And I know I
said on our ACC preview and we had some people
respond to it. If you're not into Joe, like maybe
if you're a Georgia fan or if you're rooting for
another school in the ACC, I get it. But if
you're pretty much anybody else and you're not at least
a little bit interested or care a little bit about
Georgia Tech, you're kind of doing it wrong because Georgia

(12:49):
Tech is the way you live if you're watching from
the acc from afar, it should be a team that's
fun as hell. As you said, Josh, as you said Dan,
they have sort of assumed this identity of brank Key,
and you know, now a couple of years into this,
it should be interesting to see how it shakes out.
There's certainly one of the teams anyway that we called
out as at least having a shot at this thing,

(13:10):
because as he said, it's outside of Clemson kind of
in the eye of the beholder.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Can I just we were at SEC Media Days the
other day, which was in Atlanta. I was looking for
every excuse to get away early. So I hit Georgia
Tech up and said can I come hide over there
for the day and they said, yeah, come on, So
I go over there. There's a lot of construction, so
they have all of the coaching staff parking in this
auxiliary garage except one member of the staff whose truck
is jacked up too high to fit in the parking garage.

(13:40):
And I don't want to tell you which member of
the staff it is that just randomly pulls up to
the stadium and no parking lot whatsoever. But given the
context clues here, I think you can guess who it is.
So yes, identity, identity, identity, love it with it, love.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
It all right, Dan, your turn? Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yes, yes, Steeds.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
This is also simmering. I don't think it's molten hot.
But I think we're going to see a crazy number
of retirements after the season. Oh and especially if they
have graying temples, like Tyler hilden Brands. I think there
are going to be a number of coaches after this
season specifically that are going to get that are just

(14:23):
going to break. I think guys like take your pick,
Kirk Farens, Kyle Whittingham across the sports. I mean, Mike
Norvell technically has gray hair, but I don't think that's
his decision necessarily. There are just going to be a
number of guys who either decide that like you know what,
I don't want to recruit my roster every hour, or

(14:45):
I don't want to guess to see where this program
will be in three years, Like conference wise, I don't
want to try and pitch my conference for the college
football playoff in August. Like I think there are so
many extra carelars here at play that we are going
to see like six seven retirements come November, December, January.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's funny you mentioned that because I did put a
call out on Patreon to get some takes equally as
hot and Aaron wrote in to say that this will
be the last year for all three of the longest
tenured coaches at the FBS level in Kyle Whittingham, Mike Gundy,
and Kirk.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Ference right exactly, and like the Gundhy thing has already
been sort of spelled out, so we kind of have
an idea that, you know, this is probably the last
sort of runway as everything was sort of put in
detail after last season and so barring a complete turnaround
with a complete new roster, but yeah, I think we're
going to see like we haven't seen the coaching turnover
in the way that we were used to because I

(15:48):
think a lot of money has been going to collectives
into rosters rather than buyouts. But I think we are
going to see some shifts this year. And there's you know,
in the sec right, Brian Kelly goes eight and four, right,
that might not be his decision, but I think we're
going to see much more turnover than we have the
past couple of years, in large part because of guys

(16:08):
hitting walls. In a matter of speaking.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I came very close to this being a prediction. The
way I was going to phrase it was it was
not so much leaning towards maybe the seasoned citizens of
the coaching profession. I was going to look and say,
I think two of what would universally be considered the
top ten coaches in the country will just voluntarily throw

(16:33):
up the deuces. I've gotten a feeling for a while
there were many guys at the peak, like the pinnacle
of their careers, that are completely fed up with the landscape.
But what they've been doing, every one of them, to
a man, will tell you this. Behind the scenes, what
they've been doing is they've been trying to hold out
until and then you fill in the blank, like the
house settlement or whatever. Well, if they look and they

(16:55):
see the current situation is no different than what it
had been, and they don't see any hope on the
horizon for things returning to whatever normalcy is for them.
Money in this sport is insane at the head coaching
salary level. So you've got guys who are in their
mid forties whose children's children are set for life, so

(17:16):
it's not like you're planning on coaching until you're seventy anyway. Also,
they just watched one of their elder statesman, Nick Saban,
retire and get a raise to go into football or
to go into TV.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
So there's this whole new world out there. I call
it the Mullen career path, where you could retire at
age forty seven, even if you intend to get back in.
You retire, you go keep a seat warm on a
desk somewhere on Saturdays, and you can stay away from
the game indefinitely. And if you leave when your stock's high,
you give me. Like John Gruden, everyone asks every year

(17:50):
when's he coming back? When's he coming back? And your
stock goes up and up and up because everyone sounds
like a genius.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
On TV.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
By the way, there's no like, there's no bad decision
on TV on air. And so I not only do
I think you're right, I think it may be more
than just a Kirk Farrence or a Kyle Whittingham. I
think we could get one or two bombshells in December
of January.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I think if you wanted to really dig into this
in a creepy way, which now I'm singing ties tune here,
where's this said?

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yes, yes, Steeds.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Take a look at coaches with high school aged kids
who are burnt out potentially on coaching and maybe would
prefer to see their kids play in volleyball games or
football games or basketball games more than they would, you know,
traveling once again to see recruits instead of traveling with

(18:50):
their family. The one name that immediately comes to mind,
and I've said this on the show, I don't think
Kirby Smart's coaching for the next seven years at Athens.
I really, I really think, and I know his kids
are of that age or his last kid is of
that age. I think this is I did not do
the research looking at his kids, but I'm almost positive
that's right around the age. And that could be a

(19:13):
name to me. And if you read John Talty and
Armin Katayan's book he came very close to stepping down
amid all the portal craziness of like three years ago,
that would be a name still to this day. I
don't know if it's this year, I don't know if
it's next year. I just don't think he's a like
lifer guy well.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
That'd be good. Then he leaves and they could poach
Dan Lanning for away from your Oregon Ducks.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, it'd be great. That'd be a wonderful spring of events.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Tie that's the name that I jotted down. And again
it's not that smoldering a take, but kind of in
the same vein Mark stoops at Kentucky. Oh well, again,
this is not exactly like breaking news here, but it
just seems like he has gotten progressively grumpier. They have
one of the ten hardest schedules this year.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I mean, who among us, ty.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
No, I get it. One of the ten hardest schedules
this year. And I believe they're starting Zach Calzada at
least that seems to be the plan, which I sure
don't know how I feel about that. I don't know
where they get to buy out money, but it seems
like that's a situation that's deteriorated quit pretty quickly, excuse me,
And they're over under is only like four and a
half this season, so nobody's really expecting a whole lot there,
And that just kind of feels like it's been in

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the works for a while.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
You know, think about the chapter of the history book
that's missing. The Mark Stoops goes to Texas A and
M chapter exactly to be written and got ripped out
by the locals down there. Credit to the locals, I
mean for the uprising down there, like Aggie's rebellion. Also,
they've got critical members of their infrastructure jumping ship, but

(20:47):
staying in state to go to Louisville never a good sign.
That's the blinking red light.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
All right, let me where's my button? Out here? Here?
I'll go.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I'll give you one. Here comes the marvel.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I think my controller might have died here, so I'm
not even sure this thing's going on anymore, which is
probably good, So don't get black lung. But alas, I
have LSUS this year's BAMA, and by that I mean
a really good SEC team that gets left out of
the playoff at something like nine to three.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
And you know, obviously, if you pay attention to this
sort of thing, you understand, given the schedule, given just
the lay of the land in the SEC, this is
very possible. It's very possible for a lot of the
teams that we're gonna preview in the SEC. But LSU
in particular, I think is interesting because in many regards,
this feels like kind of a make or break year
for Brian Kelly. They loaded up, they went all in

(21:39):
on the portal, but they've got a brutal schedule. They're
rebuilding to some extent along the line of course, well
Campbell goes like fourth overall to the Patriots. You've got
a high level quarter Oh, it is on. I can
smell it. You've got a high level quarterback in Garrett.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I'm gonna clip that exactly. It's on. I can smell it.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, when it starts getting a little
thicker in here, Uh, Garrett n us Meyer obviously high
level NFL talent, but through twelve picks last year, so
a bit of that gunslinger mentality. I don't know if
you're going to be able to get all the mistakes
out of him in one offseason. It just feels to
me like LSU is going to be that team at
the very end where we're trying to figure out who
are the top twelve, and everybody likes LSU because they

(22:18):
recognize how talented this team is. But given some of
the other participants and given the way this thing shakes out,
I could see them getting left out, and again the
conversation reignites itself about how many automatic qualifiers belong for
the SEC for the Big Ten, we do this whole
cycle all over again with the playoff arguments.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Oh, by the way, if you really want to tangle
that spider web, I think most of us would agree.
Florida plays one of, if not the toughest schedules in
the country this year. Yes, Florida goes to LSU. So
let's say you're right to walk it a step further
down the path of chaos. Let's say Florida goes to
LSU and loses a competitive game but finish nine and three.

(23:01):
I think the committee may put Florida in over LSU
with the same record and a head to head loss
because the strength of schedule leans Florida that significantly.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah at Miami, another one on that schedule for Florida.
I mean it's a brutal slate and absolutely brutal slate.
They close out with Florida State as they usually do.
Who knows what we're gonna get from the knowles this year,
but yeah, that to me, there there's gonna be that
SEC team and I think we all know it where
they're just sort of on the cusp, and everybody recognizes
how talented they are, but because of numbers and because

(23:33):
of the way that they've set this thing up, they'll
be on the outside looking in. And again, it's good
for the content, I guess, but maybe not great if
you're a fan of those teams.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I like that. Your hot take was Brian Kelly, who
has almost exclusively gone nine and three, will go nine
and three. Brian Kelly nine and three, nine and three,
eight and four. All right, I think he's gonna go
nine to three. Okay, so he's like a premium A
and m BA very much. Yeah, I'll catch all right here,
I got to play this one. Now, where is it at?

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yes, I'm growing war with your takes.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Here's the one that I mentioned earlier. And this comes
to us via Patreon. Gentleman named Davis who's been a
longtime supporter, and the takes actually from his dad.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
College football isn't what it used to be.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
No no, no, no, no, no no no, this is this
is like next level.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, I like this.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
He said he was in along. It was in the
car for a long time with his dad the other day,
and the take was that Lincoln Riley will be back
at Oklahoma by this time next year. Oh yeah, bravo.
I mean talk about a jabb at. You will see
a ricochet shot at Brent Vinnables.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Lebron went back to Cleveland. It's the perfect take. It's
Billard went back to Portland.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Oh do you remember how not only when that happened,
how shocking it was. Do you remember, like the socioeconomics
sparring and the debate, or a solid week of the
quality of life in La versus Norman. LA's a better
place to live. Can you imagine if those people got

(25:08):
to tip that bucket upside down? Oh? You greater than CALLI?
And then the entire country probably divides red and blue
as to which side of that conversation you're going to
fall into. And that's when it's most delicious, when we
get a healthy dose of politics having no business whatsoever,
bleeding their way into this and they do anyway, And

(25:28):
Lincoln Riley wants mistaken for a president in an address anyway,
could work his way into this equation in the most
sadistic way possible. I don't even know the guy's dad,
but I wish he were my dad. I respect so much.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Wow, I have a Lincoln Riley adjacent take, but it's
not as hot as that.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I mean, this is okay, but what's yours?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, No, I was going to say, what are the
actual wheels that could be put into motion?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Right?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Like, if we're going to construct this in the way
that Josh was carrying fabric over his shoulder, if we
were going to lift this take into reality, Yeah, what
is the likeliest path that it takes?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, you know, I'm not high on USC. I mean,
it's we're recording this before. I think a lot of
people heard the Big Ten Show. I don't know when
all the stuff's going to come out, but you know,
I'm pretty low on USC this year. And I guess
my kind of also adjacent take is that I don't
think USC is any better. I think they might get
better on defense, but I think the team as a
whole might actually be a little bit worse. So you

(26:30):
don't have to sell me on USC falling short of expectations.
What does that look like? It probably looks like some
sort of embarrassing loss in Big Ten play, probably an
eight and four record at best. It probably looks like
Oklahoma getting destroyed by its schedule, which again is speaking

(26:52):
of brutal schedules. Oklahoma's right there, So you're basically talking
this through on two different levels. USC and Oklahoma falling
will all short of expectations.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
I think I know how it would play out. The
answer is the answer is it won't happen. Yes, But
if it were to happen, I don't think. Did he
say Riley's going to get fired or Riley just takes
the OU job.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
He says Lincoln Riley will be back at Oklahoma by
this time next year.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
That's what I need. Oh, he knows what he's doing. Yeah,
this is not this guy's first time around the hot
take Mary, go around. Here's what would have to happen.
USC has a great year, yes, but the dynamic behind
the scenes we start to hear, is that the general
manager is not answering to the head coach. He's answering
to the a D. And Lincoln Riley, even in a

(27:38):
great year, has been rubbed the wrong way by that.
And they come to an end pass and they won't
rework the language in the agreement and then he wants
out and Brent Venables has been a smoldering tire fire
all year in this scenario, and so you've got to
remember a new athletic director coming in at OU, You've

(27:58):
got a new general manager there. Maybe we find out
Jim Naggy's preferences Lincoln Riiley, the new AD's preferences Lincoln Riley.
I still don't know how you wipe the memory clean
of your entire constituency there, but that's the only way
that this could possibly happen.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I think that's true. I think there would have to
be maybe a quarterback recruit who really wants to go
to Oklahoma but is not confident in their offense and
grew up loving Baker Mayfield, which is really strange to say,
we're old. It has to be something in along lines
of recruiting not working out at USC behind the scenes,
and an amount of money that is comically large to

(28:42):
move away from USC back to Oklahoma given the baggage there.
It's hot. I can't fully construct it, but there's something there.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Now. Counterpoint, Yeah, given some of the ongoing strife about
USC maybe trying to worm its way out of the
Notre Dame series in order to perhaps benefit them in
the College Football Playoff, is Oklahoma's schedule a situation that
Lincoln Riley would want to step back into now that
they've moved to the SEC.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
That's true. It's a good question.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
The rumors are that that's the entire reason he left. Yeah, exactly,
denied by him, but those are rumors. Nonetheless, Man, I.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Like that Davis's dad, whatever your name is, sir, I
was going to say, bravo. My hot take is going
to be that Lincoln Riley parks his super yacht the
SS buyout in the south of France rather than outside
of Majorca. But I guess that's open to interpretation of
what kind of personality you think Lincoln Riley has if
it does not work out at USC where he parks

(29:40):
that super yacht.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
But where are they coming up with that kind of cabbage?

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I don't know, Man, Is there a healthy donor we
don't know about, because there are wealthy donors, but I
don't think they're super into USC football in the same
way that perhaps healthy donors are elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Because hasn't that been the point of contention with respect
to a potential buyout for Lincoln Riley these last two years?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Now?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Everyone's talking about it, and clearly USC people are aspiring
for more. But you got to find a lot of
money in order to get him out of there.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
We'll see how the new Marvel movies do. Right, that's
sort of uh the connection, right if I didn't usc
got a big recruit and they impressed him by taking
him to Marvel Studios last year and sort of dressing
up some sort of digital image or something because it's, ah, god,
what I think jakeem Stewart thanos. They made a big
deal of that. So if the Marvel if what is

(30:31):
the new one right now? Fantastic form? If that's a
huge hit, Tye, you never know. It's like the the
Cody Campbell but with iron Man, it's great.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I am going to seamlessly weave my next prediction into
that this will be the transition of this show. All right,
hold on, see.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Hold on, you're a guest of honor, Josh. You need
a proper introduction for these continue please.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Tennessee notably made the playoff last year, right. Expectations notably
high in the SEC, including on Rocky Top. However, one
of the biggest stories of the spring was the Nico
Iamaliava stuff. I am a believer that not Fantastic four
but eight and four fantastic. Eight and four will be

(31:19):
Tennessee's record this year. And I say fantastic because they
will be the only team in the SEC with legit
a tier expectation, including one who made the playoff last year,
who will find a way to go eight and four.
But please the fan base, it's going to be a
very very weird dynamic. The country has kind of forgotten
how the Nico stuff happened. Tennessee folks have it so

(31:42):
Tennessee folks were really, really proud that Josh Hypel planted
the flag. Now the entire time, anyone who's of you know,
at the outside persuasion looks at that and says, good
for you, guys, but are you ready to have his
back if you start losing? This fall remains to be seen.
But knowing these people like I do, I reside in
this state, I think that they're going to fall off
a little bit. I think they're going to go eight

(32:03):
and four, but I think they'll be really scrappy competitive,
like not blowout losses. Just it's one of those four
losses by a combined nineteen points type of seasons, and
I think they'll look and they'll say, wait, we've got
the number one quarterback committed for next year. We got
a lot of young guys who got a lot of
really good experience this year. It suck to lose. We
don't like it, but a lot of places around here

(32:24):
they want to fire you if you went eight and four,
and sometimes in Tennessee world they want to do that.
I think this year Tennessee finds a way to be
a four lost team, and the fan base is really
strangely good with it and excited about it.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Come December, a.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Charming eight and four.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh absolutely. What I was going to say is I
was just looking over Tennessee because we've yet as we're
recording this, we've yet to record our full on SEC preview.
I think Tennessee is going to smoke Syracuse in Week one,
the neutral p Syche game in Atlanta. And to your point, Josh,
if you win in resounding fashion, a reasonably well publicized

(33:04):
non conference game the first week of the year, that
tends to build up a lot of goodwill. Yeah, and
so new quarterback coming in, like they make the trade,
they get Joey Agyar and you know, everybody I think
is going to roll with him. Now. I could see
them winning that game in resounding fashion, and even though
it gets harder from that point forward, there will be
a lot of goodwill in the Tennessee universe.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
I just look. I think that it's very underestimated nationally,
how proud those people were that their guy ended up
being the guy who just said no enough. Like they're
fully they're fully committed in Nico, They're all in on him,
and then it goes down the way it goes down,
and he's in the middle of his career there, like

(33:48):
they're looking to elevate from a two lost season and
a playoff run and he says no, knowing full well.
I mean, I don't know if the fan base knows this. Internally,
they know full well they're going to take a step
back by doing that. This year, they got all defensive
line concerns, which they were going to have anyway. Frankly,
I thought they were going to take a step back
with Nico, So without him, they're really going to take
a step back. But they did all that, and then

(34:09):
five years from now, if he's still there and we're
doing this in August of like twenty thirty, I think
we'll look back and say, what a shrewd tactical move
that Hypel, knowing they may take a step back anyway,
bought himself a mountain of equity and goodwill by pulling
the move he did when he did, which gave him

(34:31):
perfect cover to go eight and four, only to know
that he was about to springboard into his next generation
quarterback coming in. And you can't see that right now
because it's just fog on the horizon. But I think
when we look back and the fog clears, I think
this will have been a very very shrewd tactical move
that the likes of which makes a PR firm very

(34:51):
very jealous because they didn't come up with it.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
And Jim Haslam gets a rebate they gets finally, finally
he gets a little bit of money back for his
investment because their budget is not where they thought it
might have been going into the season. Okay, I like that.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
This is good? All right, Dan, you're up pool?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
All right? War takes why bird?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
My controller has stopped working, which is probably good for
the lungs. You know it's back there. I've got a
light on it. We can dress it up in post
continue Dan, Please.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I think somebody who is positive that they're not going
to have quarterback issues is going to have a major
situation in mid to late October. So the best way
to issue this take would be to be specific, but
I'm not going to be as specific as I should be.
I'm going to say it's going to be someone in
the grouping of like Dante More, someone in the grouping

(35:43):
of Arch Manning, Ty Simpson, Julian saying, somebody who's like,
we've got our guy for sure, CJ.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Carr. CJ Carr.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Absolutely, this is a season in which so many what
we perceive to be powers are heading into a year
where you're just like, oh, yeah, he's definitely the guy,
He's the next guy, and we are going to roll
and John Mattier at Oklahoma whoever, there are too many
teams with too many and Mattier has played significant time,
so that's maybe a little bit that would be more

(36:13):
shocking if John Mattier doesn't work out at Oklahoma given
the coordinator thing, given a healthier offense around him, it
should be a healthier offense for Oklahoma this year. But
I think there is going to be you know, Carson
Beck has the elbow thing, so I'm not going to
put him in the same category. But somebody is going
to be scrambling around Halloween that didn't think they would be.

(36:33):
How's that tie?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
I hope it's not CJ. Car. I know you hope
it's not saying this, and it's like my ears start ringing.
I mean, look it, and that's not even to account
for injuries, which clearly can throw right.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
And we've got a lot of new offensive lines in
front of these guys. Oregon's got a new offensive line,
Texas has a new offensive line. I'm pretty sure both
of those offensive lines are going to work out. Notre
Dames should be good. You've got what a new quarterback
at ole Miss with new offensive linemen.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Like Georgia same.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
There's a lot variable here going into the season, and
I don't think it would be the worst ideas for
all of us to familiarize ourselves with the depth in
these rooms.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Not only do I agree with it, this will happen,
this will unequivocally happen. And that's why I've, like Mima
always said, write your predictions and pencil in August. This
is the most important year that I think we've ever
had in the history of college football. To not call
anyone's predictions stupid in August and also to write your

(37:34):
own predictions in the lightest of pencil. Yeah, I think
it was you who made the point the other day.
You were talking about how much portal churn there is
and how it's it's virtually impossible to know things definitively
about rosters, even just at the quarterback position, even with
the guys who aren't transfers this year, there's so much
uncertainty around them up to an including them. How could

(37:58):
you ever know? How did how how do their own
staffs even know definitively what they have? So yeah, I
agree it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
If you were a trouverballer, you would have said stabs.
But otherwise I fully agree, right, I fully agree.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Here's here's mine, here's mine.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yes, Steeds.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Kind of on the topic of quarterbacks, Dan, you already
heard me say this, Mark Kronowski, Mark Ronowski, nothing gets
the blood pumping like talking a little FCS quarterback transfer
on this show, Mark Kronowski. I have him down as
the best Iowa quarterback since Brad Banks. Okay, all right,

(38:39):
I will reiterate this again for the crowd. I watched
hours upon hours of Mark Kronowski clips when I should
have been studying the Big Ten as a whole other
teams across college football. I think they can do a
lot of fun stuff with him. I was workshopping that
he's the Skylar Thompson of Will Howard's I don't know

(38:59):
if that works, but I think he's a solid dual
threat quarterback with upside who is not going to try
to run around you, but he will try to run
through you, which I like about him, and based on
the way that they used him at his previous stop,
I think given the offensive setup with Tim Lester, they
can incorporate some of that. It's a great effect. Now

(39:20):
who is he throwing to? Not talking about great question,
but alas Mark Ronowski is sort of like my pet
player this year, and if he hits at Iowa, and
if the defense is remotely where it's been, which I
think we just assume is fact at this point over
the last ten to fifteen years, I think Iowa has
a real chance to show real upside and surprise a

(39:43):
lot of people who may not have them on their
radar screen.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Dan, do you want to go first?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I think this is just ty wish casting. I don't
know if this is a take, he's just really hopeful
that an FCS quarterback works out for Iowa that hasn't
developed quarterbacks traditionally. Although they got better last year, I
don't know. I feel like this is another team with
the variable issue right that he has played I think
one game against power conference competition last year in Oklahoma

(40:15):
State at South Dakota State. Offensive line questions running backs
should be okay, and receiver questions. I just don't think
they are built around him for him to become a
folk hero yet yet, Well, how are they going to
bring in? Is Ryan Williams transferring to Iowa next week?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
You want to talk about like Lincoln back to Norman
or Ryan Williams to Iowa City.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Let's that's the move. Well, hold on, We've got that
Caden Proctor back and forth between Tuscaloosa and Iowa City.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
So there's precedent, the Caden Proctor express. Baby.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, Iowa only loosely believes in the quarterback position. So
to paint this scenario is tough? Did you say? Because
I want to make sure when I steal this quote
and use it in my social circle, I have it correct.
The Skyler Thompson of Will Howard's.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yes, that is what I jotted down.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yes, yeah, So hold on, let's say if we unpack that,
you're saying that Skyler Thompson is of the Will Howard
like genus because they went to Kansas State together.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I guess they were both like somewhat mobile, they were
folk heroes, and that they won big games. Will Howard
won the conference.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
My thinking was that Skyler Thompson was like eighty five
percent of Will Howard. Okay, and obviously Will Howard won
a national championship with a much better team and was
very good down the stretch. So the best of Will Howard,
we know. The best of Will Howard is now playing
in the NFL, so good quarterback.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
And Skyler Thompson was a giant killer beat Oklahoma. Yeah,
and Skylar Thompson also now in the NFL. Is I
think a backup for the Dolphins or somebody. So, I mean,
these are guys that have gone on to the next level.
And I don't know if Gronowski is either of them,
but I look at his game, I see a little
bit of Will Howard.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I'm curious to see how they use them.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I think that it's well documented a lot of both
play by play and color. Guys and girls listen to
this show. So I think the real task is for
anyone who draws the Iowa broadcast assignment this year. Yes,
nip at any point that we could get just seamlessly
woven into the fabric of the broadcast that phrase, you know,

(42:23):
Gronowski kind of the Skylar Thompson of Will Howard out here.
If we could get that woven in, I don't care
what else happens today, this will have been a win.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Well, we have Jason Bennetti in our pocket, and so
he's Fox. Okay, it's doable. It's a there's a not
zero percent chance. Okay, ty, uh, Josh, what do you
have next?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Ty?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Play the sound?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Oh do I have to play? I forgot I forgot
my own?

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yeah? Why all right?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Go ahead, mister Pate.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
All right. How familiar are you, guys with Michigan State's offense?
Not really pretty familiar. Actually, yeah, so tough road last year.
I think we would all agree. I what you did
to Gronowski film the other day, I have done with
Michigan State almost like conspiratorial offensive takes. And I believe

(43:16):
that Michigan State will jump seventy spots minimum in points
per game this year, and they were one hundred and
twenty fourth in points per game last year, so I
need them up in like the fifties, the low fifties
or better this year. Here's what I see, delusion, some
would say, But what I see is, of course you

(43:37):
got Childs at quarterback. But beyond tim there's a lot
of mystery about the offensive line transfers they brought in.
But one of them was like an All FCS guy,
another one was All ACC honorable mention. One was a
rotational starter at Oregon State. I think they'll be good
enough on the offensive line. Marsh is a really good
wide receiver. Of Endings a really good tight end. I

(43:58):
think that you get the year two bump as well.
The year two bump is just science at this point.
I think there will be quantum improvement in their production.
And it's always nice to know they only need to
be fifty first or something like that in the country
for this to hit. So I think they're going They're
going really really scale hard points per game, can't get

(44:18):
any worse, got to get better. I think it'll get
a lot better.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
So you're talking about I did some quick math. They
scored nineteen a game last year. You're talking about getting
to around thirty yep, and so thirty points per game
times twelve, Because this is what you do in the
Big Ten. You have to do some math to figure
out some minimum scoring acceptance rates. After Iowa's drive to
what three twenty five?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Three twenty five yep rip.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
So we're talking about a race to three hundred and
sixty this year. Hashtag full circle three sixty Michigan State.
I don't hate this. I've actually watched a lot of
Jonathan Smith offenses because of Oregon and watching those Washington
teams and Oregon State teams, and I don't think it'll
be terribly difficult for this team to improve, and so
so I appreciate this. That they have intriguing skill talent.

(45:04):
The offensive line needs to get a lot better, and
I'm sure they brought in fourteen dudes from UTAP to
try and make it so. But I don't hate this.
I don't hate this. I don't have their schedule in
front of me, ty, I don't know if you have.
I'm ready to fact check, but I do, And who's
standing in their way? I don't know what rhymes with
three sixty.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Well, I mean, look, if they're going to do it,
they have to get off the three and oh start
because they've got Western Michigan, Boston College, and Youngstown State
and they got to pick up three others along the
way if they want to get to Bowl eligibility. So
I think Maryland's beatable. They're on the schedule. There just
aren't two other obvious ones to me on this thing,
Like could they be UCLA at home? Probably? I don't

(45:42):
think that highly of UCLA, sure, But then you start
getting into the territory of can they go to usc
and when can they go to Nebraska? And when can
they go to Indiana? And when they've got Michigan in
Minnesota and Penn State And there's a lot of AMMO
on the schedule. So if you believe in Michigan State,
you are believing in them dumping maybe one, maybe two
of some of those teams that I listed. I like

(46:04):
the offense too. I think they obviously need to root
out some of the mistakes or the mistake prone Neess.
Not a word of Aidan Chiles, but I like the
combo of him. I like Nick Marsh. I think there
is a lot of intrigue with that offensive line. I
also think that the defense will make some things interesting.
Like they've got four of their five top tacklers gone,

(46:24):
which hurts. But the upside to all the injuries last
year is that there were a lot of other guys
that got experienced. So I think across the board. Second
year coach Boost definitely science. As you said, Josh, I'm
not all in on Michigan State, but I do believe
they're going to find their way into a bowl game.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Now in your two I'm just I don't need them
to have a certain record. What I need them to
do is drop fifty five on Youngstown. Yes, I need
them to drop points on USC. I need them to
get theirs when it's there to be gotten. So that
if it's thirteen on the board against Penn State, Okay,
we're not dead in the water. We could still this happened.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Statistically, we're going to balance this. I like that, Yes, Buddy,
like that.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
If they're scoring in aggregate whatever thirty points a game
they're this year is Indiana.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
That's correct, They could be. They could that's look for slate,
but yeah, it could be.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
That means they're at least flirting with thirty against teams
like Iowa and maybe not Penn State, but USC and Minnesota. Like,
if you're scoring thirty points against Minnesota, you've got a
great shot to beat Minnesota. Right, the games are gonna come.
If you're scoring like that, that's not bad.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
I don't hate this.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I don't hate by the way, ty, just because you misspoke,
are almost misspoke earlier. I don't know if you wanted
to enter the term into the Soliverble lexicon. What's a
coach boost? Oh? Yeah, that's something that you wanted to
Let's let's move on to.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Our next take here.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Moretikes why births.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
This one comes to us from Bob Okay, the Big
Ten will win the college football Playoff for the third
straight year. It'll be Notre Dame once again ahead of
the SEC schools, Kaylin debor out at Alabama, a crisis
of confidence in the SEC. Okay lot going on here.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
From Bob, So, the Big Ten winning it's third straight
basically assumes that it's Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon or No,
that's it, that's sound.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Who's somebody else?

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (48:16):
I don't know. I think the big headliner here, though,
is the boor out at Alabama. Yeah, what is there
a minimum threshold? Or does such thing even exist? Josh?
That would lead to Kaitlin de Bor being out at Alabama?
Like if they were to go eight and four against
a tough schedule, are they gonna cut bait with the guy?

Speaker 3 (48:37):
There's just there's no world where that actually happens now
where the world where it is attempted to be spoken
into existence is far and wide. The world where that
actually happened. First off, if buyouts were not even a thing,
I don't think it would happen. Buyouts are a thing,
so I especially don't think it will happen now. The

(48:58):
conversation would would be crazy. But I this, I don't
think people have recalibrated their thinking to account for the
modern age, the modern landscape of college football. There's a
world it could be Debor, or it could be Sark
or whoever. These top tier teams in the SEC, someone's

(49:20):
going to catch an eight and four this year because
today's eight and four is yesterday's ten and two with
the different depth of roster now. But I don't think
people have calibrated that. They still think their floor is
nine and three everywhere in the top tier of the SEC,
and that's just not the case anymore. And if Kaylin
Dbor happens to be end up being the first casualty

(49:41):
of that case study, if you will, then so be it.
Someone will deal with this this year. In fact, like
LS some combination of Georgia, Texas, Bama, LSU, those are
your top four in the odds in the SEC. It
would shock me if one of those didn't fall to
eight and four this year because there aren't enough wins
to go around for everyone. So it could be Debor

(50:02):
or someone else. Someone will have to deal with this
this year. But I don't I don't think it would
take scandal or like fall off a cliff struggle to
make a Bowl game type stuff. And even then it
may be like mutual, he's so humiliated or it's so
oil and water that he just decides with the ad
I'll step away. I just don't see how he gets

(50:24):
outright acted.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Well the conspiracy theory of my wonderful co host here, yeah,
because it is sort of that. But we talked about
offline potentially Luke Fickle not working out at Wisconsin, there
being an opening at Wisconsin, a place that you know
an area of the country Kaitlin de Boor is familiar with.
He decides, if it I don't like the lifestyle at Alabama,

(50:46):
I'm going back up to the Upper Midwest. And then
there's suddenly an opening at Alabama. So not out as
in being fired, but out as in there is now
a new opening at Alabama that we didn't expect.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Now, okay, two different takes on this topic. One, what
if Nick Saban has just been doing a lot of
transcendental meditation and pilates and is doing some cold top
therapy and is just super refreshed, and he's just you
know what, I've had some regrets. I don't like sitting
next to Shane Gillis and having him spit in my face.
I think I'm gonna go back to what I'm used to.

(51:18):
One Number two, just in terms of that specific take
of mind that I didn't think about, not a lot
of people basically give up seventy million dollars for the
right to move to Wisconsin, a beautiful state that I've
enjoyed going to. That's a lot of money to say
I'm going to pay seventy million dollars to coach at Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
That's a lot. It's a lot. It is a lot.
I'm just saying, we're, you know, if we're doing theater
to the mind here.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I think that's where right around where his biot was
after last year. I don't know if the number has
dipped at some point this spring or something, but it's
probably not dipped a ton. That's that's the journey there. Okay,
all right, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Let's do uh, let's do uh, you know, one, two,
three more here? All right? Why what do you got
for me?

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Notre Dame won't lose an embarrassing game to a lesser team.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
That's not really a take, but it's more of a
it's more of a take than it should be.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
We're on a roll here, ty, I think they only
have what Boise and Navy coming from a slightly lesser
conference situation, They're gonna be fine. Notre Dame is gonna
be fine this year. The other take I have let
me read it exactly as I wrote it. Playoff ratings
will be a not super fun talking point around New Year's.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
A not super fun talking point? Is this because you
just hate all ratings discussions the way I do?

Speaker 4 (52:41):
I do?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Or yeah, I just think it's going to grow uncomfortable.
I think, what's it's going to be like Josh Pate's
forehead right now? I think it's not going I hope
I got that. Okay, it still look great. I think
we're going to get to the point where because of
what the NFL is doing around Christmas Day, and not
that there are college football games I don't leave on
Christmas Day this year, but just because the NFL is

(53:03):
treading into that territory more and more, and because I
think there is growing resentment around who is running the
playoff and the SEC and the Big Ten expanding and
fighting amongst themselves about playoff formats and if numbers aren't
sterling and spectacular and don't even hold where they were

(53:24):
this past year. I think the discourse is going to
get heated up as people are paying attention during Bowls season,
and it's not going to be a fun discourse. That's
what I have.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Who was it just said recently? Who just said recently
at Media Day that they should move the start of
the season up two weeks or was it Dan Lanning Landing?
I said they should start it in a week zero,
give themselves a little extra breathing room at the end
of the year because college football belongs on Saturdays and
didn't appear as if he is a fan of this
sort of working around the NFL.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah. I just especially as the playoff goes to a
place where you're just going to see itactuated with Big
ten and SEC teams, I think you're sending a message
to a lot of people who love college football that
these are the only teams that they're allowed to watch
as the season ends. And I don't think it's a
great message.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
That's all, all right, mister Page, Yes, what else do
you got for us anything?

Speaker 3 (54:21):
So I kind of I kind of leaked it a
second ago. But take that top four of SEC odds, Bama, Georgia, Texas, LSU.
I think someone goes I almost want to say seven
and five, but I will say there is an eight
and four in that group, and then I will do

(54:42):
I want to go, yes, someone goes seven and five
out of that group, I'll go seven and five. Someone
go seven to five.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
I've got one here that came in on Patreon that
the arch Manning hype won't pan out and Texas will
miss the playoff.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Missing the playoff now, Yeah, because because that is closely
related to one of the predictions I left on the
cutting room floor, which is Texas is a two lost
team facing an undefeated OU and Red River, Yeah, which
which they could lose that win and leave Dallas five hundred.
And that's how that's how precarious your positioning is in

(55:19):
this sport, because Sark is on top of the world
right now. Yeah, if they don't, like if they missed
the playoff this year, do you know how quickly that
goes from no one can stop us to wait a second.
So we lost to Georgia twice last year, We got
a shot against Ohio State, we lost to them. We
lost all our big games this year. Do we just recruit?
Is that all we do here?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
And it wasn't not Sark's reputation at USC.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I mean, we started talking about this a little bit,
but there there is a fair amount new on the
Texas side too, uh huh. You know, so it's it's
a take, but you could at least like Squint and
understand the logic there. And though I like arch Manning,
and though I think he's got an incredible skill set
and obviously a name that precedes it to the earlier point.

(56:05):
There's a lot of new a quarterback this year, and
you can't assume all of them are just going to
hit as expected.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
I have one. I don't know if you want, I
mean sort of on the same Yeah, go ahead. I
think there is a non zero chance Mizugo's like eleven
and one this year because of the schedule. Buddy, Now
you've got to be it's gotta be ready to invest
in the Beau Pribula experience. I grant you, and I am,

(56:32):
by the way, I know you are.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
At one point, yes, last year, you were like, oh,
bo Prebula is better than Drew Aller and he was
like WHOA for a moment, for a moment I had,
I had a quarter against Minnesota where he was just
ready to throw it all away to Baguire.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
We're not here to talk about the pastor here to
talk yeah future.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
The schedule is so incredible, and they're just like kind
of solid across the board, uh and not not even
just kind of solid, Like it doesn't seem to me
in late July early August that they have like a
catastrophicackness right now and so missoo quietly just rampaging through
that schedule. I think it's on the table. I'm not

(57:10):
predicting it to be so, but I think it's on
the table.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I don't know if people out there listening understand this schedule,
because this is the kind of schedule you would build
in the old NCAA football game, where you wanted to
schedule hard enough yep, so that you wouldn't get docked
by then the BCS, but easy enough so that you
wouldn't be too threatened along the way. They only have
four road games. They avoid Texas, they avoid Tennessee, Ole,

(57:33):
miss Lsu, Georgia, and Florida, And on top of it,
in terms of giving their self like a little bit
of runway to build momentum, their first six games are
at home HM the first six games that includes a
biggie against South Carolina at the end of September. That
includes Alabama on October the eleventh. They don't go on

(57:53):
the road until October eighteenth this season, which is you will.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Have Halloween decorations out long before Zori leaves home.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Incredible.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
It's it's not only an incredible schedule, but like the
actual manner in which it works out, they are in
like a letdown spot against six of the better teams
on their schedule, Like it's not even just advantageous in
terms of home road splits and who they miss, but
it's like, oh, we have this team after they play LSU,
we have that team after they play at Alabama. We

(58:22):
have this team. Like it could not have worked out better.
You got to be in on bo Pribula, which you
are tea.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Yeah, but I'm saying if this happens, also as much
as we're buying prebula stock, if this happens, does it
not coincide with a mad hardy coming out of nowhere
to win the Dope Walker Award?

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Absolutely does. He was very quietly incredible last year for stretches. Yes,
all right, doing eleven one year zoo it is not
even that hot to take. I mean I think there
there will probably end up with a better record than
the actual content of their performances.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Perhaps, but well the old ker is seven and a half.
So if you believe at all in Miszoo and at
all in the schedule, and at all in Boprabulah with
the schedule, I mean they might be six and oh
after those Well first however, reaighty handful of games. I
guess they're probably not going to beat Alabama. That's a
bridge too far. But either way, even if they start

(59:23):
five to one or four and two, the rest of
the way, it's still there to get to seven wins.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
So Mazoo has Alabama and get this a revenge spot
for Alabama against Vanderbilt the week before.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Yeah, yeah, all right, that's it. Well, why don't we
leave it there for people out there listening who have
their own takes. Comment on the video, leave comments on Spotify,
hit us up Soliverble at gmail dot com. Mister Pi,
thank you so much for your time here, for sharing
some of this hot takiness with us. Remind the fine
people where they can find you if they're interested in

(59:56):
more of what you do.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I appreciate both of you having me very hospitable. It's
just Josh Pat's College Football Show. Just search it. It
should pop up. If it doesn't, that's my fault, not
your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
It's good seo. It's a good title, right. People know
exactly what they're getting from the title. They're getting Josh
Pate and they're getting college football. I think he nailed it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
For better or for worse.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
There it is man. All right again, his name is
Josh Pate. We appreciate your time, thanks for stopping buying
the solid verbal for the first time. We'll have to
make sure we do this again sometime soon. Okay, absolutely,
all right, then his name one more time is Josh Pate.
Check out Josh Pate's college football show does a terrific job.
Has had nothing but the kindest of words to say

(01:00:40):
about our show and how in some weird way it
has helped inspire him to do what he does. So
we're grateful to have him in the for Ballerhood along
with all y'all. Again, hit follow, hit subscribe if you
made it this far and you want to hear more
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as part of the Home and Home, so we're talking

(01:01:01):
takes on this show today. On his episode, we're going
to talk through some things that were just looking forward
to as fans, as podcasters, as just sports fans as
a whole. There are so many interesting storylines this year
in the world of college football, and if you tune
into his episode upcoming with us, you will get to
hear what we have to say.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
You know, it's interesting and I agree, and it's great,
and I definitely recommend you go check that out. The
idea of a take, like our takes were not necessarily
rooted in being one hundred percent serious, but it's like,
here's an interesting way to think about this aspect of
a team or sport that I kind of buy into. Right,

(01:01:46):
it's not, you know, the take isn't that you know
Lincoln Riley is going to be coaching Oklahoma again, Like
maybe maybe the what is it the dad of a listener?
That's his take? But I was sort of writing off
the idea of takes as sort of a weird, silly exercise,
and there's nothing weird and silly about Mount Takato. Of course,

(01:02:08):
we respect geothermal violence.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Be careful, be careful for what you wish for. This
is still an act of volcan.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
When people ask like, hey, what's what's saliverbal like, my,
first things first, they respect geothermal violence, that's right, first
things first. Second of all, I was willing to write
off the take a sphere until I saw this quote
from this weekend. Did you see Skip Bayless's quote about
Scotti Scheffler, recent winner of the Open Championship. Did you

(01:02:38):
see his.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Quote I have my hand over my face.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Guys quote see Tirewood, see Michael Jordan, see Tom Brady,
and on a far, far lower level see me. Okay, so,
first of all, it's the fake humility. I love it.
I approve Yep. I've always been obsessed with maximizing the
talent God gave me. I felt I was called by
God to be the very best truth telling commentator and writer.

(01:03:04):
As I could be the very best however, I could
maximize my talent that God gave me, I'm going.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
To do so, I sacrificed having children because I saw
that correctly raising children would be a huge time draining
distraction from maximizing my talents. Okay, first of all, I
agree with everything he said so far he has me. Okay,
I'm checking boxes right here. I feel like twenty seventeen

(01:03:32):
Dan commared to twenty twenty five Dan, no contest.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
The man knows how to build a hook, not gonna lie.
He knows how to really in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
You might say I took on the persona of a
cold blooded media killer, driven to achieve at all costs
while honoring God and tithing. Is that the word I'm
looking for to my church, supporting other great causes as
I have over the years, and so forth, and so
forth and so forth, And to that I say respect,

(01:04:00):
absolute respect. I'm trying to understand that maybe I was,
maybe I wasn't called by God to be the truth
telling machine that I was intended to be. But I
have a family and children that do command some of
my time, as does Scottie Scheffler. Apparently he finds his
family to be more important than golf, which yeah, of course,

(01:04:22):
but that sort of woke me up to what I
could be in the take ecosystem.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Yeah, we have a long ways to go if we
want to get the Skip to Skip kil I respected
that so much. What a fiery take, yeah, called by
God between him and Steve and A. The rest of
us have a lot to learn when it comes to
crafting a truly effective viral take.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
See the thing is about this is not a media show,
nor will it ever be a media show. But at
least you could convince me, convince me maybe that what
Stephen A does is performative. I think Skip Aless is
stone cold serious with every single word he says, and
I think a deep issue involved therein But oh, I

(01:05:07):
appreciated that so much, oh so good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Oh my gosh. Well, on that note, none of our
takes were quite that now, not even in the same stratosphere. Yeah,
oh was the best, But we appreciate Josh stopping on
by sharing his thoughts. Of course, thank you to the
verballerhood as well for sending in those takes on our
Patreon at verballers dot com, we will continue to tap

(01:05:32):
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(01:05:56):
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have to have Josh on again some point soon. That
was a great time. Good to finally get him on
the show. We will do it again at some point
in the future, I promise you. In the meantime, the
preview season rolls on here at s v HQI of

(01:06:19):
more to come for that guy over there, my good
friend Dan Rubinstein, form myself Tye Hildebrand. Thank you as
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