September 23, 2024 • 25 mins
With enormous screens, Lo-Fi sound and exhaust fumes that could kill a young elephant, who wouldn't love a drive-in movie?! They were the best places to catch a flick in the 70s and 80s. Roll down your window, ease the seat back and enjoy the aroma of weed, popcorn and engine oil. It's movie time!
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I'm Tony. I'm Eric. We are the sons of San Fernando.But we've been friends for over 40 years. And
grew up together in the San Fernando Valley.These are the stories of our experiences as
adventurous Gen X latchkey slackers from backin the day. And don't forget to hit the follow
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Was that the lyric? Tang, what is the lyric?I don't know. Take me and y'all down down.
Rock me tonight. Do do do. You know, look, Iknow I make fun of Billy Squire, but I love
Billy Squire. Billy Squire makes fun of you.You'd think that with the advent of things
like Uber and stuff like that, you would haveless people on the road. Like somehow that,
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I don't know. I always thought that would likehelp things. Like everybody's not in an individual
car anymore because so many people, especiallythe newer generation, they're riding more.
Like they're not. Everybody's using Uber andLyft. Yeah. It's only like old guys like us
that still drive our cars. But here's the thingthat I learned recently. Nothing helps. Anything.
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Everything sucks. Yeah. And entropy moves thatforward. It just is bad. And it's like the
real goal is not to fix things. That's been,that's a red herring, man. It's not a key herring.
By the way, red, but have you ever had a goodred herring sandwich? No, I haven't. What deli
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do you go to get your red herring sandwiches?Take me and ya. But I, yeah, everything's bad.
Everything's bad. And everything will continueto be bad. And then you just let it go. It
didn't used to be bad. You know what's the worst?What's the worst? Movies. I can't, like I'll
look up a movie and it'll be like Marvel movie,Marvel movie, Marvel movie, Marvel movie, Wonder
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Woman, Marvel movie, Marvel movie. I can't takeit. Isn't Wonder Woman Marvel movie? Probably.
I don't even fucking know. DC, I don't know,it doesn't matter. It's all, yeah, but who
cares? Who cares? Same genre. Same smell. Samejunk, same garb. Right, there's like, it's
so hard to find any good movie. That's like,how many times do you go to the theater now?
I try to go all the time. I'm always looking,what's playing, what's playing, and it's like
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garbage, garbage. Okay, so right now it's September.How many movies did you see in the 30? In the
30, what? In the 30, they're 30 months now?We live in different dimensions? Yeah. We live
on a different planet apparently. You live onNeptune, we're there in 30 months. In a year.
I live on Uranus. Oh, you would, thank God.You know what I'm saying? Thank God. I've seen
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this year in theaters. You're talking aboutin theaters. In theaters only. I would say
five, four, five, four. Four, five. How manyhave you seen in theaters? I think two. Yeah,
so not still. Just one last week and one earlierthis year and that was it. Well, you know.
I can see here's the thing. You used to go allthe time. Well here's the thing, it was a whole
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different experience to go. First of all, youcouldn't see the films at home. So that- Yeah,
that's right. You had to go- That doesn't rightthere. You had to go to theater. And a lot
of the movies now are just put straight outto Max or Prime or whatever. Or your butthole.
Yeah. Or your Max butthole. Which is a greatstreaming service. Yeah, butthole? I love the
butthole streaming. I don't know if you subscribeto my butthole. Yeah. It's a great service.
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It's too high a cost. No, it is expensive, butit's worth it, is the thing. You have to experience
my butthole to really appreciate the benefitsof subscribing to my butthole. That's not what
I write on Yelp. No. Here's the thing. Here'sthe thing. The experience is everything. It
changes the way you view the film. Yeah, beingthere in the theater. So, like, okay, I did
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go to the theater the other day. Oh, which one?Regal? Okay. No wait. The Regal Beagle? Not
the Regal Beagle. No wait, what is it? No, no,the AMC. AMC, the small, the one in the mall
in Burbank Mall, the AMC8. Smaller one, theyshould- How was the experience? Does it have
the reclining seats? It has the reclining seats,but you know, you buy your tickets in advance
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and you have your seats and we sit down andwe go to recline our seats and they don't fucking
recline. No. So did you just switch seats? Yeah,I mean, luckily in this day and age, you can
look up, it's one of the good things, you canlook up and see what still is unsold. So we
moved to an unsold seat. Here's the differencebetween me and you. Never in a million years
would I've looked it up. I would've said, there'sa seat. I'm gonna go sit there. Yeah, but then
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you sit there and like two minutes later, somebodycomes and says, that's my seat. You get to
pick up and move again. I know, but there'sthe possibility that won't happen and then
you don't have to look it up. But then I onlyhave to move once. I've saved up the look up
time. And I've saved the getting kicked outof the seat by the guy with his popcorn and
jujubes. I don't mind the guy kicking me outof the seat as much as I might look like that.
But you know where you never got kicked outof a seat? My butthole. Again, back to the
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Yelp reviews. I don't, you know. Where did younever get kicked out of a seat? At the drive-in.
Oh right, because it was your seat. You broughtyour fucking seat. You brought your own goddamn
seat. Here's the thing about the drive-in. Wait,we had a drive-in right by the 405. And that
thing didn't go away for, I mean it was therefor a long time. Long as time. It was one of
the last surviving drives. Do you remember whatthe name of that drive? Was it the Van Nuys?
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Van Nuys Drive-In I think. Van Nuys Drive-In,yeah. It was like right off the 405. Yeah,
so. And here's the greatest part, is you couldsee the movies when you were driving by. Yeah.
And they were backwards, cause you were on thebackside of the screen. You would see. It was
just a see through, it was a transparent screen.Yeah, you would see the movies from back for
like five seconds. So you could see Jarl's backwards.Yeah. By the way, Jaws backwards, he actually
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spits up Quint. It's actually Swage. Okay, now,did you go to that drive-through? First of
all, we look at- Drive-through? I mean- Okay,wait, you just nailed it. Drive-through movies.
Wait, drive-through movies. That's what we gottareact. That's what we gotta read. We gotta
create a new business. That is it. So you, it's,they're not just shorts. They're like 30 second
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movies. Yeah, right. It's like a commercial.Yeah, you're on like a conveyor belt, like
a car wash, right? So you go into the car washbelt. No, wait, you couple it with a car wash.
Right. So, so there's, they're projecting themovie in the car wash. Right, that's a- And
then you get, and they're like, Ren and Stimpyshorts. Yeah, you just get like a, whatever,
two minutes, how long does it take to go througha car wash? Two minutes? Oh, four or seven.
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Why are you clicking me at the bottom of thesmoke arrange? I think it's easily four to
35 minutes in a car wash. Four to 35 minutes?I mean, a little. About four minutes, right?
Okay, so maybe. No, six. No, it's not six minutes.You are, what car wash are you going to? You
can easily watch a short. You can watch a, well,a short short. Okay, let's not argue on the
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length of a car wash duration. But let's sayfour, five, six minutes, somewhere in there.
You know who taught me the word duration? Doyou know who taught me the meaning of the word
duration? I'm sure I don't care. I bet you couldguess. If I just gave you a minute to say who
in my young childhood would have taken the timeto explain to me what the meaning of the word
duration was. In your young childhood? Yeah,well, yeah, I was probably...
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Was this a school chum? It was not a chum. Butit was a school. It was at school. And it was
not a chum. It was... Your mother. It was yourmother. Oh, I thought you were just... I thought
you were just ragging on me. Your mother. No!Your mother was like... She said something
to me like, they'll be there... Oh no, she said,will you be there for the duration? I don't
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remember what we were doing or where I was going.She said, will you? Because, you know, I'm
for anybody who's listening. which are veryfew and far between, your mother was working
at Our Lady of Grace. Yeah, she was a librarian.As the librarian. And I said, I'm going somewhere,
and she said, will you be there for the duration?And I must have looked at her like, you know,
I am. And she said, do you know what durationmeans? I said, no. She said, the length of
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time that it happens. And I was like, okay,now I know duration. And to this day, when
someone says the word duration, I think of yourmother. I think of Seal Wibbles. And here I
thought you were just, just. I was just givingyou a neighborhood, yeah, mom joke. No, no,
it was your mother taught me the meaning ofthe word duration. Anyway, the duration of
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the car wash is enough time to watch a short.Yeah, and then you get, so you pay for your
ticket, you watch your short. Drive throughmovies. But it's, you get your car washed,
you watch the short, and at the end, there'sa window where you can pick up your fries.
Right, exactly, I love this idea. I think thisis- What do you call this? Washer through.
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I gotta work on that. Movie wash. Yeah, we gotnothing on that. Okay, yeah, we'll come back
to that. We'll come back to that. Okay, so.But drive in movies. These movies are a little
different than drive through movies. You woulddrive in, for those who don't know, there were
actually these giant ass parking lots. You thinkyoung people are listening to this garbage?
Yeah. There's no way, Eric, that somebody who'slistening to this thing that we're recording
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right now doesn't know what a drive in is. Iknow, if I remember correctly, you would drive
in and you had to. pay for everybody in it wasn'tper car. I don't that I don't remember. I think
I remember. It wasn't per car. I don't thinkso because I remember hiding. You know what
I'm gonna defer to your. I remember hiding.I remember like sometimes you like hide in
the back of the wagon or like under you know.Wait your parents would hide you? No, I think
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this was later maybe when there were still drive-ins,but we were maybe teenagers and you were trying
to save a buck and you'd stick your buddy inthe trunk. In the trunk. Oh, you're right,
because I think they do that in Grease. Andthen they started checking people in the trunk.
Actually, in the big drive-in scene in Grease,when they drive in they all pile out of the
trunk when they park inside the car. Yeah, Ithink they were charging, and then I think
they got licensed and said, you know what, we'rejust going to charge per car or something like
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that. What are your feelings on the movie Grease?I love Grease. Oh you do? Oh yeah, I watch
it. You know, I had this feeling that you weren'tgonna like it. I watch it like maybe once a
year, once a couple of times. Really? Oh yeah,I know it's great. I've seen it at, I go out
to see it, like at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery.Oh right, Hollywood Forever. That's like going.
Wait, is there still a drive-in anywhere? Idon't, if there is, who's going to? Like you
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just can't make enough money. It would be amazing,because you'd be the only one. Yeah, but. You'd
be the only one. First of all, what was thebiggest drawback? Let's do, we'll start with
this. The biggest drawback of the drive-in movie.There's a drawback? Yeah. Uh, sound? That was
the major one. So you had this contraption.Yeah, that was the best part. That was, you
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tuned what, your AM station or something? Yeah,you was, wait, so was that ho ho? Ho ho ho.
Who, you calling a ho ho? No, wait, I thoughtthere were two different ways to do it. Either
you tuned into the station. Yeah. Right? Whereyou could listen to it being broadcast. You're
right, right. Or you had the contraption. Youcould put the contraption on your window that
had a little speaker. So I think the old, oldschool one was the contraption and you would
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hang it on your window that you rolled downby hand. You would half roll, so that you could
hang it on the window. And your sedan. Right,and listen to it through this little shitty
mono speaker. And it was like a little eightinch speaker. You could barely make out what
they were saying was terrible. The screen wasfucking massive. Which was great. And the sound
was shit. And it was nice, it was outside, itwas so fun. And you're hanging it. I think
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it was always on the driver's side door, butyou had the big screen, you had the comfort
of your own car, you didn't have to sit nextto anybody else. And it was make-out central.
And it was, well, not when we were kids. No.No, not when we were kids. When you go with
your parents, the other thing was, Then it'snot make-out central. There was a concession
stand you can get up and go to, and you hadthe bathrooms and stuff. I can see that there
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were concessions. I would hope so. Yeah. Butyou could also. bring all your own stuff. I
remember that. And my mom loved that. Becauseyou pop your own popcorn and bring your own
sodas and it didn't have to pay the exorbitantprices. So you had it all self-contained in
your car, which was amazing. I think I saw,can you remember any movies that you saw? Fuck
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no. I can, I can. I remember specifically thatI saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind. I
bet that was great to watch. At drive-in. Drive-in,what's wrong with you? Drive-in, god damn through
in. Cause that's all I ever say, who says drive-in?It's not in my vernacular anymore, I gotta
replant it. Okay, please do. And let me tellyou, that sounds like, I wanna go do that right
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now. of the third kind in a drive-in in my truckand when I flip the truck around that was the
other thing oh yeah that's right the truck aroundso remember yes 70s all the people that had
car seats that they'd ripped out of an old junkerat the junkyard and they throw it in the back
of their truck and bolted into the bed backwardsagainst the cab hundred percent and people
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would sit in them as they were fucking dry Wedid the same thing with the station wagon.
We'd park the station wagon backwards. Flipit around. The tailgate would go down and we'd
just. Oh man, I'm on a cry right now. And youhad your blankets and stuff and it was cold
outside, didn't matter, because you had yourpillow, you were super fucking comfortable
watching movies. Oh God, that's the greatestthing. Ah! I'm literally, I'm so, I'm so sad
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for the loss of this, talking about this rightnow. I want to do that. And because what happened
is. I'm making this. You had, well and then,okay, so later we got. It was Makeout Central.
Once it was, once we were teenagers. But thenit went away, like not long after we were teenagers.
You didn't matter what movie you went to see.No, you didn't see it. Because you weren't
going to see the movie. No, you didn't see it.Yeah, you were just, you know, you put your
popcorn, you get your popcorn going and yourCoke and your- Get your popcorn going, get
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your popcorn. And then you get some other popcorngoing. Yeah, I mean, I don't remember doing
a ton of drive-through makeouts because I thinkthat it was gone sooner. then I was dating
anybody. Yeah, no, just a little bit of that.Like, just early, early part of that. That
Van Nuys one was there for a long time, though.I wonder what year that closed down. But yes,
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you could do that, but ultimately, forget aboutthat. I mean, I don't wanna forget about it.
It is part of the whole drive-through lore isthe- Drive it. What is wrong with- Do you want
me to start a list? Yeah, I need to know. Wedon't have that much time. You should be honest
with me. That's a whole different episode. Wewill cover that. I am comfortable with you
telling me. Yeah, well that's actually a tripleepisode. Drive in, drive in, drive in. You
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got it. So in the whole drive in lore has, partof that is the make out central, but really
the bigger thing, the bigger thing about itis this vibe of. community, even though when
you go to a movie, so just going to a moviein general, there's a community sensibility
that you miss when you're home, right? Whenyou laugh at a joke at home, it's just you
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laughing at the joke at home. When you laughat a joke in a movie theater and everybody
gets the joke, I remember seeing Ghostbustersthe day it came out at the movies of Tarzana,
and I sat, I think, with Don Burns and my sisterin the very front row, in the very side, of
the movie, just looking straight up. Oh my God,that's straight up, that's terrible. Straight
up and to the right. whole time at Ghostbusters.That sounds awful. And I love this movie so
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much, and I remember the whole audience laughingat Bill Murray, and there's something about
that. Oh, it's, it's. That you can't do at home.It's visceral, you get that, what was it, when
Jurassic Park came out, the original. Okay.Opening evening, saw Jurassic Park. Oh yeah.
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Waited in that line, went in, and it was unbelievable.Yeah, it's great, because everybody in there
was oooing and awing and freaking out at thefreaking dinosaurs. And then you and I were
talking about horror movies the other day. Ialso saw horror movies. Horror movies. Horror.
Horror movies. Horror. Okay. Horror movies.And I went to see... Again, in the theater,
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not on opening day, but I saw Exorcist Threein the theater. And the collective shriek and
scream and- And the collective grab of theirsphincter. And pants shitting that happened
all at the same time. Could you imagine if yougrabbed other people's sphincters? I was that
scared I did. I grabbed sphincters on eitherside because I'm like, what just, but yeah,
you had that feeling of everybody else. Yeah,everybody sphincterizing at the same time.
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Which was different in, you didn't have thatin the drive-in because you were in your own
car. I pulled on them. But people had to. Sometimesyou did. And then when you could hear other
people laughing at the drive through and itwas kind of echoing with the coyotes in the
canyon, I mean, that's great shit. And you knowwhat else people would do when there was something
really funny or something exciting? What doyou have in your car? You have, I don't, what
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do you have, Eric? A glove compartment? A horn.Oh, people honked? People honked. Yeah, to
like applaud. Ha-na-na-na-na-na. Oh yeah, peopledid honk. People were laughing a lot. You know,
now that you say that at the end of the movie,sometimes people would honk. Yeah, a lot of
honking going on. This needs to come back. Weneed to have drive-through movies. In! It's
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America. I'll get it by. Therapy. Ugh! Drivein. So, but how do you remedy things that are,
okay, so the things that are so- What do youneed a remedy? The things that are so right
about it are so right. Just the sound. Because-What's so right? Being outside, sitting in
your truck bed. Being outside in the truck isgreat. All those things are great, and I prefer
that to sitting next to somebody in a movietheater that is fucking constantly on their
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phone during the show talking. Talking. Therewas somebody talking next to the movie. I just
went to see Sing Sing. Yeah, and there's a guytalking to his girlfriend. It's like shut the
fuck No, you're usually pretty good about thisguy was really big No, he would have just taken
his I recline seat and hold it in half withme in it And that would have been the end.
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I just went to see Hamilton in New York, althoughI could have sicked Elaine on it because she
would have just Yeah, all 35 pounds. Yeah, shewould turn him up I saw Hamilton in New York
with Zoe Ziggy and Jacob and- Hamilton who?The play. And the guy in front of us. First
of all, this guy sitting in front of me, hewas sitting in front of Zoe, we had to switch
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because he had literally the biggest head everplaced on a human being. I know that guy, he's
the guy that sits in front of me at every fuckingconcert. Well, you should say hi to him at
the next concert and tell him that Hamiltonwas very annoying. What was that? Heed, heed!
Yeah, no, the guy's head was, it was unreal.And here's the weird thing, he kept shifting
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it from left to right the whole show. He couldshift his head? Well, I know. Well, maybe that's
why he was shifting. I didn't think of that,but maybe because it was so fucking heavy.
Yeah, he has to. So gigantic, he has to go left,have to go right. I feel for the guy. So he's
shifting his head left and right. Every timehe shifts, so I'm like, Zoe, just switch. So
she switched with me to be in front, behindhis girlfriend, right? So now I'm behind him
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and he's shifting his head left and right andthey, the two of them together are singing
along poorly to every single song. And it wasjust like, I didn't want to. stab them in the
heart. You know, bum them out because they werereally enjoying this. But tickets to a Broadway
show are not cheap. But it doesn't matter. Youcan't take away the enjoyment of everybody
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else. I have not paid to hear you sing it. Thatwas, I had the same problem at a YouTube show
with the guys singing right next to me. Right,I remember that. Because it's not, just like
you can't talk during the, I didn't pay to hearyou talk in a movie. I want to see and hear
what's going on the screen. I understand that.And this guy, again, like the friend that you
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had in front of you at Sing Sing, this guy wasenormous to match his head. I mean, his head
was, there's no way he could have had a bodythat was any smaller than 6'6", because the
dude's head was so gigantic. And so I wasn'tsaying anything, not because he was so gigantic,
I really wanted him to enjoy the show and theywere so into it. You know, it wasn't like they
were just talking about something else. Theywere saying that. And then Zoe, at one point
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in the second act, leans in like right her headright in between both of them and goes, like
Elaine Bennis in Sidewell. And I was like, well,that'll do it. You know what they need at movie
theaters and shows like that is they need, youknow, they always have ushers and what have
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you. They need. Bouncers. Bouncers would begreat. Like at the movie theater. At grabbing
by your belt buckle and scrubbing your neck.Yeah, it's like you're talking to, maybe you
get a warning and then they actually pick youthe fuck up and they fucking throw you out
the door. Well, that's the beauty of going toa drive-through is there's nobody in front
of you. Going to a what? Drive-in, oh God! Whatdid I? It's really upsetting that I can't.
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So we have to fix the things that are, I wannago back to the things that are right and the
things that are wrong about Dr. Arthur. Wait,we didn't say all the things that are right
yet. We said, okay, what are the other thingsthat are right? Okay, right. We had the giant
screen. Giant screen is great. Sit by yourself,back of the truck, bring your own snacks. Bring
your own snacks is important. Bring your owngoddamn snacks. And then, okay, that's about
it, right? Oh, summer night, beautiful outside,stars above, honk at the end of the movie.
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And you don't have to worry about people talking,or, you know, I mean. Around you like interrupting
the movie unless they honk which they didn'tgenerally do unless it was the end of the movie
She didn't real good. She didn't really havedistractions. You had the occasional person
walking in front of your car to go get Concessionsor something, but that's fine. There was yeah,
there were concessions. Yeah, you could stillgo. Oh, yeah. Yeah Oh, it was 65 miles away
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and it was like 1295 for a pack of milk. That'swhat else is new. That's not new Okay, so and
then the bad things really are only the soundYeah, the sound. What else do you have to fix?
Yeah, the sound. No, that's it. Yeah. It's justsound. I just gotta figure out the sound thing.
If I can figure out the sound thing, I am openingup a drive-through. This is my mission in goddamn
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life. They've gotta be something that you can,because everybody's car is gonna be different.
You can't rely on the, you know, tuning in tothe radio. On the car itself, or tuning into
the radio. And that's why, yeah. I mean, they'renot even gonna have radios and cars at some
point. And here's the thing. People are usedto going and seeing. IMAX or the big screen
and the Dolby surround sound. Wait, wait, wait.No, sound's a big deal. Sound is a big deal,
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especially all the, you talk about the movieswe don't like, like the Marvel movies, the
DC stuff. That's all about huge sound or theMad Max Fury Road or the new ones. That is
all about big sound. So how do you get, youcan't replicate that in your car. Listen, hold
on, you can't replicate that, but the soundsystem's in. cars today versus 1975 are quite
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different. But what if you have a car from 1975?Who no one does. Classic cars are not on the
road anymore. They are gone. So I guess if you'redriving an old car, you're just a little fucked.
She fucked you, yeah, and get a new car. SoI say, we just broadcast it, but you gotta
broadcast it on FM. On FM. Not AM, because AMis smaller. And then you can blast the fucking
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sound. And if you blast it in stereo, it wouldsound good. And that's a great thing too. for
a drive-in, you can blast the sound as loudas you want. You can have as quiet or as loud
because it's in your own fucking car. Even ifyou have the windows down. I know people who
do that for their fucking Christmas. decorationson their house. Yeah. You go to their house,
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and then they have a little sign that says tunein to this channel. And then you can watch
their little show with the music because theyhave a little transmitter at their house. I
could do that. This is how we solve that. It'sjust the sound. No, I'm not joking, though.
I know this sounds like I'm saying this stufffor the sake of the podcast. But I can tell
you right now, I am going to open a drive-through.I just. Drive in! God damn it! I.
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How is my brain not able to do that? As muchas I, what the drive-in gives you, that is
you get the community without being too closeto actual people. Yeah, you don't like that.
It's just an approach. You don't like actualpeople. You've never liked actual people. No,
no, I really don't. I don't like being thatclose to people. Simulated people, but not
actual people. But if I've got like 10 feetbetween me and the next car, that's fine. Hold
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on. I'm not really into that. Hold on. That'sokay. drive-in movie that you cannot save yourself
a drive-in movie we're going to go to a drive-inmovie imagine the day five years from now i've
got the setup i've got a franchise we're goingto the drive-in and they're gonna be, yeah,
let's go. Cause there is one. Cause I startedit. And I'm gonna franchise these all over
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the country. I'm gonna make a zillion dollarson this idea. Unless somebody else does it
before me cause they heard me and they- No,no, no. We're just gonna save this episode
until we actually put it out. Until I've gota TM on my drive-through. Wait, what am I gonna
call my drive-through? Oh, that's a good question.My butt hole. Drive through my butt hole! No,
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but it's not, it's drive in my butthole. Drivein my butthole, right? Yeah.
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Was that the lyric? Tang, what is the lyric?I don't know. Take me and y'all down down.
Rock me tonight. Do do do. You know, look, Iknow I make fun of Billy Squire, but I love
Billy Squire. Billy Squire makes fun of you.You'd think that with the advent of things
like Uber and stuff like that, you would haveless people on the road. Like somehow that,
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I don't know. I always thought that would likehelp things. Like everybody's not in an individual
car anymore because so many people, especiallythe newer generation, they're riding more.
Like they're not. Everybody's using Uber andLyft. Yeah. It's only like old guys like us
that still drive our cars. But here's the thingthat I learned recently. Nothing helps. Anything.
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Everything sucks. Yeah. And entropy moves thatforward. It just is bad. And it's like the
real goal is not to fix things. That's been,that's a red herring, man. It's not a key herring.
By the way, red, but have you ever had a goodred herring sandwich? No, I haven't. What deli
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do you go to get your red herring sandwiches?Take me and ya. But I, yeah, everything's bad.
Everything's bad. And everything will continueto be bad. And then you just let it go. It
didn't used to be bad. You know what's the worst?What's the worst? Movies. I can't, like I'll
look up a movie and it'll be like Marvel movie,Marvel movie, Marvel movie, Marvel movie, Wonder
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Woman, Marvel movie, Marvel movie. I can't takeit. Isn't Wonder Woman Marvel movie? Probably.
I don't even fucking know. DC, I don't know,it doesn't matter. It's all, yeah, but who
cares? Who cares? Same genre. Same smell. Samejunk, same garb. Right, there's like, it's
so hard to find any good movie. That's like,how many times do you go to the theater now?
I try to go all the time. I'm always looking,what's playing, what's playing, and it's like
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garbage, garbage. Okay, so right now it's September.How many movies did you see in the 30? In the
30, what? In the 30, they're 30 months now?We live in different dimensions? Yeah. We live
on a different planet apparently. You live onNeptune, we're there in 30 months. In a year.
I live on Uranus. Oh, you would, thank God.You know what I'm saying? Thank God. I've seen
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this year in theaters. You're talking aboutin theaters. In theaters only. I would say
five, four, five, four. Four, five. How manyhave you seen in theaters? I think two. Yeah,
so not still. Just one last week and one earlierthis year and that was it. Well, you know.
I can see here's the thing. You used to go allthe time. Well here's the thing, it was a whole
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different experience to go. First of all, youcouldn't see the films at home. So that- Yeah,
that's right. You had to go- That doesn't rightthere. You had to go to theater. And a lot
of the movies now are just put straight outto Max or Prime or whatever. Or your butthole.
Yeah. Or your Max butthole. Which is a greatstreaming service. Yeah, butthole? I love the
butthole streaming. I don't know if you subscribeto my butthole. Yeah. It's a great service.
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It's too high a cost. No, it is expensive, butit's worth it, is the thing. You have to experience
my butthole to really appreciate the benefitsof subscribing to my butthole. That's not what
I write on Yelp. No. Here's the thing. Here'sthe thing. The experience is everything. It
changes the way you view the film. Yeah, beingthere in the theater. So, like, okay, I did
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go to the theater the other day. Oh, which one?Regal? Okay. No wait. The Regal Beagle? Not
the Regal Beagle. No wait, what is it? No, no,the AMC. AMC, the small, the one in the mall
in Burbank Mall, the AMC8. Smaller one, theyshould- How was the experience? Does it have
the reclining seats? It has the reclining seats,but you know, you buy your tickets in advance
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and you have your seats and we sit down andwe go to recline our seats and they don't fucking
recline. No. So did you just switch seats? Yeah,I mean, luckily in this day and age, you can
look up, it's one of the good things, you canlook up and see what still is unsold. So we
moved to an unsold seat. Here's the differencebetween me and you. Never in a million years
would I've looked it up. I would've said, there'sa seat. I'm gonna go sit there. Yeah, but then
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you sit there and like two minutes later, somebodycomes and says, that's my seat. You get to
pick up and move again. I know, but there'sthe possibility that won't happen and then
you don't have to look it up. But then I onlyhave to move once. I've saved up the look up
time. And I've saved the getting kicked outof the seat by the guy with his popcorn and
jujubes. I don't mind the guy kicking me outof the seat as much as I might look like that.
But you know where you never got kicked outof a seat? My butthole. Again, back to the
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Yelp reviews. I don't, you know. Where did younever get kicked out of a seat? At the drive-in.
Oh right, because it was your seat. You broughtyour fucking seat. You brought your own goddamn
seat. Here's the thing about the drive-in. Wait,we had a drive-in right by the 405. And that
thing didn't go away for, I mean it was therefor a long time. Long as time. It was one of
the last surviving drives. Do you remember whatthe name of that drive? Was it the Van Nuys?
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Van Nuys Drive-In I think. Van Nuys Drive-In,yeah. It was like right off the 405. Yeah,
so. And here's the greatest part, is you couldsee the movies when you were driving by. Yeah.
And they were backwards, cause you were on thebackside of the screen. You would see. It was
just a see through, it was a transparent screen.Yeah, you would see the movies from back for
like five seconds. So you could see Jarl's backwards.Yeah. By the way, Jaws backwards, he actually
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spits up Quint. It's actually Swage. Okay, now,did you go to that drive-through? First of
all, we look at- Drive-through? I mean- Okay,wait, you just nailed it. Drive-through movies.
Wait, drive-through movies. That's what we gottareact. That's what we gotta read. We gotta
create a new business. That is it. So you, it's,they're not just shorts. They're like 30 second
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movies. Yeah, right. It's like a commercial.Yeah, you're on like a conveyor belt, like
a car wash, right? So you go into the car washbelt. No, wait, you couple it with a car wash.
Right. So, so there's, they're projecting themovie in the car wash. Right, that's a- And
then you get, and they're like, Ren and Stimpyshorts. Yeah, you just get like a, whatever,
two minutes, how long does it take to go througha car wash? Two minutes? Oh, four or seven.
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Why are you clicking me at the bottom of thesmoke arrange? I think it's easily four to
35 minutes in a car wash. Four to 35 minutes?I mean, a little. About four minutes, right?
Okay, so maybe. No, six. No, it's not six minutes.You are, what car wash are you going to? You
can easily watch a short. You can watch a, well,a short short. Okay, let's not argue on the
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length of a car wash duration. But let's sayfour, five, six minutes, somewhere in there.
You know who taught me the word duration? Doyou know who taught me the meaning of the word
duration? I'm sure I don't care. I bet you couldguess. If I just gave you a minute to say who
in my young childhood would have taken the timeto explain to me what the meaning of the word
duration was. In your young childhood? Yeah,well, yeah, I was probably...
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Was this a school chum? It was not a chum. Butit was a school. It was at school. And it was
not a chum. It was... Your mother. It was yourmother. Oh, I thought you were just... I thought
you were just ragging on me. Your mother. No!Your mother was like... She said something
to me like, they'll be there... Oh no, she said,will you be there for the duration? I don't
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remember what we were doing or where I was going.She said, will you? Because, you know, I'm
for anybody who's listening. which are veryfew and far between, your mother was working
at Our Lady of Grace. Yeah, she was a librarian.As the librarian. And I said, I'm going somewhere,
and she said, will you be there for the duration?And I must have looked at her like, you know,
I am. And she said, do you know what durationmeans? I said, no. She said, the length of
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time that it happens. And I was like, okay,now I know duration. And to this day, when
someone says the word duration, I think of yourmother. I think of Seal Wibbles. And here I
thought you were just, just. I was just givingyou a neighborhood, yeah, mom joke. No, no,
it was your mother taught me the meaning ofthe word duration. Anyway, the duration of
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the car wash is enough time to watch a short.Yeah, and then you get, so you pay for your
ticket, you watch your short. Drive throughmovies. But it's, you get your car washed,
you watch the short, and at the end, there'sa window where you can pick up your fries.
Right, exactly, I love this idea. I think thisis- What do you call this? Washer through.
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I gotta work on that. Movie wash. Yeah, we gotnothing on that. Okay, yeah, we'll come back
to that. We'll come back to that. Okay, so.But drive in movies. These movies are a little
different than drive through movies. You woulddrive in, for those who don't know, there were
actually these giant ass parking lots. You thinkyoung people are listening to this garbage?
Yeah. There's no way, Eric, that somebody who'slistening to this thing that we're recording
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right now doesn't know what a drive in is. Iknow, if I remember correctly, you would drive
in and you had to. pay for everybody in it wasn'tper car. I don't that I don't remember. I think
I remember. It wasn't per car. I don't thinkso because I remember hiding. You know what
I'm gonna defer to your. I remember hiding.I remember like sometimes you like hide in
the back of the wagon or like under you know.Wait your parents would hide you? No, I think
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this was later maybe when there were still drive-ins,but we were maybe teenagers and you were trying
to save a buck and you'd stick your buddy inthe trunk. In the trunk. Oh, you're right,
because I think they do that in Grease. Andthen they started checking people in the trunk.
Actually, in the big drive-in scene in Grease,when they drive in they all pile out of the
trunk when they park inside the car. Yeah, Ithink they were charging, and then I think
they got licensed and said, you know what, we'rejust going to charge per car or something like
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that. What are your feelings on the movie Grease?I love Grease. Oh you do? Oh yeah, I watch
it. You know, I had this feeling that you weren'tgonna like it. I watch it like maybe once a
year, once a couple of times. Really? Oh yeah,I know it's great. I've seen it at, I go out
to see it, like at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery.Oh right, Hollywood Forever. That's like going.
Wait, is there still a drive-in anywhere? Idon't, if there is, who's going to? Like you
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just can't make enough money. It would be amazing,because you'd be the only one. Yeah, but. You'd
be the only one. First of all, what was thebiggest drawback? Let's do, we'll start with
this. The biggest drawback of the drive-in movie.There's a drawback? Yeah. Uh, sound? That was
the major one. So you had this contraption.Yeah, that was the best part. That was, you
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tuned what, your AM station or something? Yeah,you was, wait, so was that ho ho? Ho ho ho.
Who, you calling a ho ho? No, wait, I thoughtthere were two different ways to do it. Either
you tuned into the station. Yeah. Right? Whereyou could listen to it being broadcast. You're
right, right. Or you had the contraption. Youcould put the contraption on your window that
had a little speaker. So I think the old, oldschool one was the contraption and you would
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hang it on your window that you rolled downby hand. You would half roll, so that you could
hang it on the window. And your sedan. Right,and listen to it through this little shitty
mono speaker. And it was like a little eightinch speaker. You could barely make out what
they were saying was terrible. The screen wasfucking massive. Which was great. And the sound
was shit. And it was nice, it was outside, itwas so fun. And you're hanging it. I think
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it was always on the driver's side door, butyou had the big screen, you had the comfort
of your own car, you didn't have to sit nextto anybody else. And it was make-out central.
And it was, well, not when we were kids. No.No, not when we were kids. When you go with
your parents, the other thing was, Then it'snot make-out central. There was a concession
stand you can get up and go to, and you hadthe bathrooms and stuff. I can see that there
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were concessions. I would hope so. Yeah. Butyou could also. bring all your own stuff. I
remember that. And my mom loved that. Becauseyou pop your own popcorn and bring your own
sodas and it didn't have to pay the exorbitantprices. So you had it all self-contained in
your car, which was amazing. I think I saw,can you remember any movies that you saw? Fuck
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no. I can, I can. I remember specifically thatI saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind. I
bet that was great to watch. At drive-in. Drive-in,what's wrong with you? Drive-in, god damn through
in. Cause that's all I ever say, who says drive-in?It's not in my vernacular anymore, I gotta
replant it. Okay, please do. And let me tellyou, that sounds like, I wanna go do that right
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now. of the third kind in a drive-in in my truckand when I flip the truck around that was the
other thing oh yeah that's right the truck aroundso remember yes 70s all the people that had
car seats that they'd ripped out of an old junkerat the junkyard and they throw it in the back
of their truck and bolted into the bed backwardsagainst the cab hundred percent and people
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would sit in them as they were fucking dry Wedid the same thing with the station wagon.
We'd park the station wagon backwards. Flipit around. The tailgate would go down and we'd
just. Oh man, I'm on a cry right now. And youhad your blankets and stuff and it was cold
outside, didn't matter, because you had yourpillow, you were super fucking comfortable
watching movies. Oh God, that's the greatestthing. Ah! I'm literally, I'm so, I'm so sad
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for the loss of this, talking about this rightnow. I want to do that. And because what happened
is. I'm making this. You had, well and then,okay, so later we got. It was Makeout Central.
Once it was, once we were teenagers. But thenit went away, like not long after we were teenagers.
You didn't matter what movie you went to see.No, you didn't see it. Because you weren't
going to see the movie. No, you didn't see it.Yeah, you were just, you know, you put your
popcorn, you get your popcorn going and yourCoke and your- Get your popcorn going, get
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your popcorn. And then you get some other popcorngoing. Yeah, I mean, I don't remember doing
a ton of drive-through makeouts because I thinkthat it was gone sooner. then I was dating
anybody. Yeah, no, just a little bit of that.Like, just early, early part of that. That
Van Nuys one was there for a long time, though.I wonder what year that closed down. But yes,
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you could do that, but ultimately, forget aboutthat. I mean, I don't wanna forget about it.
It is part of the whole drive-through lore isthe- Drive it. What is wrong with- Do you want
me to start a list? Yeah, I need to know. Wedon't have that much time. You should be honest
with me. That's a whole different episode. Wewill cover that. I am comfortable with you
telling me. Yeah, well that's actually a tripleepisode. Drive in, drive in, drive in. You
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got it. So in the whole drive in lore has, partof that is the make out central, but really
the bigger thing, the bigger thing about itis this vibe of. community, even though when
you go to a movie, so just going to a moviein general, there's a community sensibility
that you miss when you're home, right? Whenyou laugh at a joke at home, it's just you
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laughing at the joke at home. When you laughat a joke in a movie theater and everybody
gets the joke, I remember seeing Ghostbustersthe day it came out at the movies of Tarzana,
and I sat, I think, with Don Burns and my sisterin the very front row, in the very side, of
the movie, just looking straight up. Oh my God,that's straight up, that's terrible. Straight
up and to the right. whole time at Ghostbusters.That sounds awful. And I love this movie so
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much, and I remember the whole audience laughingat Bill Murray, and there's something about
that. Oh, it's, it's. That you can't do at home.It's visceral, you get that, what was it, when
Jurassic Park came out, the original. Okay.Opening evening, saw Jurassic Park. Oh yeah.
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Waited in that line, went in, and it was unbelievable.Yeah, it's great, because everybody in there
was oooing and awing and freaking out at thefreaking dinosaurs. And then you and I were
talking about horror movies the other day. Ialso saw horror movies. Horror movies. Horror.
Horror movies. Horror. Okay. Horror movies.And I went to see... Again, in the theater,
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not on opening day, but I saw Exorcist Threein the theater. And the collective shriek and
scream and- And the collective grab of theirsphincter. And pants shitting that happened
all at the same time. Could you imagine if yougrabbed other people's sphincters? I was that
scared I did. I grabbed sphincters on eitherside because I'm like, what just, but yeah,
you had that feeling of everybody else. Yeah,everybody sphincterizing at the same time.
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Which was different in, you didn't have thatin the drive-in because you were in your own
car. I pulled on them. But people had to. Sometimesyou did. And then when you could hear other
people laughing at the drive through and itwas kind of echoing with the coyotes in the
canyon, I mean, that's great shit. And you knowwhat else people would do when there was something
really funny or something exciting? What doyou have in your car? You have, I don't, what
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do you have, Eric? A glove compartment? A horn.Oh, people honked? People honked. Yeah, to
like applaud. Ha-na-na-na-na-na. Oh yeah, peopledid honk. People were laughing a lot. You know,
now that you say that at the end of the movie,sometimes people would honk. Yeah, a lot of
honking going on. This needs to come back. Weneed to have drive-through movies. In! It's
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America. I'll get it by. Therapy. Ugh! Drivein. So, but how do you remedy things that are,
okay, so the things that are so- What do youneed a remedy? The things that are so right
about it are so right. Just the sound. Because-What's so right? Being outside, sitting in
your truck bed. Being outside in the truck isgreat. All those things are great, and I prefer
that to sitting next to somebody in a movietheater that is fucking constantly on their
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phone during the show talking. Talking. Therewas somebody talking next to the movie. I just
went to see Sing Sing. Yeah, and there's a guytalking to his girlfriend. It's like shut the
fuck No, you're usually pretty good about thisguy was really big No, he would have just taken
his I recline seat and hold it in half withme in it And that would have been the end.
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I just went to see Hamilton in New York, althoughI could have sicked Elaine on it because she
would have just Yeah, all 35 pounds. Yeah, shewould turn him up I saw Hamilton in New York
with Zoe Ziggy and Jacob and- Hamilton who?The play. And the guy in front of us. First
of all, this guy sitting in front of me, hewas sitting in front of Zoe, we had to switch
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because he had literally the biggest head everplaced on a human being. I know that guy, he's
the guy that sits in front of me at every fuckingconcert. Well, you should say hi to him at
the next concert and tell him that Hamiltonwas very annoying. What was that? Heed, heed!
Yeah, no, the guy's head was, it was unreal.And here's the weird thing, he kept shifting
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it from left to right the whole show. He couldshift his head? Well, I know. Well, maybe that's
why he was shifting. I didn't think of that,but maybe because it was so fucking heavy.
Yeah, he has to. So gigantic, he has to go left,have to go right. I feel for the guy. So he's
shifting his head left and right. Every timehe shifts, so I'm like, Zoe, just switch. So
she switched with me to be in front, behindhis girlfriend, right? So now I'm behind him
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and he's shifting his head left and right andthey, the two of them together are singing
along poorly to every single song. And it wasjust like, I didn't want to. stab them in the
heart. You know, bum them out because they werereally enjoying this. But tickets to a Broadway
show are not cheap. But it doesn't matter. Youcan't take away the enjoyment of everybody
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else. I have not paid to hear you sing it. Thatwas, I had the same problem at a YouTube show
with the guys singing right next to me. Right,I remember that. Because it's not, just like
you can't talk during the, I didn't pay to hearyou talk in a movie. I want to see and hear
what's going on the screen. I understand that.And this guy, again, like the friend that you
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had in front of you at Sing Sing, this guy wasenormous to match his head. I mean, his head
was, there's no way he could have had a bodythat was any smaller than 6'6", because the
dude's head was so gigantic. And so I wasn'tsaying anything, not because he was so gigantic,
I really wanted him to enjoy the show and theywere so into it. You know, it wasn't like they
were just talking about something else. Theywere saying that. And then Zoe, at one point
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in the second act, leans in like right her headright in between both of them and goes, like
Elaine Bennis in Sidewell. And I was like, well,that'll do it. You know what they need at movie
theaters and shows like that is they need, youknow, they always have ushers and what have
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you. They need. Bouncers. Bouncers would begreat. Like at the movie theater. At grabbing
by your belt buckle and scrubbing your neck.Yeah, it's like you're talking to, maybe you
get a warning and then they actually pick youthe fuck up and they fucking throw you out
the door. Well, that's the beauty of going toa drive-through is there's nobody in front
of you. Going to a what? Drive-in, oh God! Whatdid I? It's really upsetting that I can't.
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So we have to fix the things that are, I wannago back to the things that are right and the
things that are wrong about Dr. Arthur. Wait,we didn't say all the things that are right
yet. We said, okay, what are the other thingsthat are right? Okay, right. We had the giant
screen. Giant screen is great. Sit by yourself,back of the truck, bring your own snacks. Bring
your own snacks is important. Bring your owngoddamn snacks. And then, okay, that's about
it, right? Oh, summer night, beautiful outside,stars above, honk at the end of the movie.
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And you don't have to worry about people talking,or, you know, I mean. Around you like interrupting
the movie unless they honk which they didn'tgenerally do unless it was the end of the movie
She didn't real good. She didn't really havedistractions. You had the occasional person
walking in front of your car to go get Concessionsor something, but that's fine. There was yeah,
there were concessions. Yeah, you could stillgo. Oh, yeah. Yeah Oh, it was 65 miles away
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and it was like 1295 for a pack of milk. That'swhat else is new. That's not new Okay, so and
then the bad things really are only the soundYeah, the sound. What else do you have to fix?
Yeah, the sound. No, that's it. Yeah. It's justsound. I just gotta figure out the sound thing.
If I can figure out the sound thing, I am openingup a drive-through. This is my mission in goddamn
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life. They've gotta be something that you can,because everybody's car is gonna be different.
You can't rely on the, you know, tuning in tothe radio. On the car itself, or tuning into
the radio. And that's why, yeah. I mean, they'renot even gonna have radios and cars at some
point. And here's the thing. People are usedto going and seeing. IMAX or the big screen
and the Dolby surround sound. Wait, wait, wait.No, sound's a big deal. Sound is a big deal,
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especially all the, you talk about the movieswe don't like, like the Marvel movies, the
DC stuff. That's all about huge sound or theMad Max Fury Road or the new ones. That is
all about big sound. So how do you get, youcan't replicate that in your car. Listen, hold
on, you can't replicate that, but the soundsystem's in. cars today versus 1975 are quite
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different. But what if you have a car from 1975?Who no one does. Classic cars are not on the
road anymore. They are gone. So I guess if you'redriving an old car, you're just a little fucked.
She fucked you, yeah, and get a new car. SoI say, we just broadcast it, but you gotta
broadcast it on FM. On FM. Not AM, because AMis smaller. And then you can blast the fucking
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sound. And if you blast it in stereo, it wouldsound good. And that's a great thing too. for
a drive-in, you can blast the sound as loudas you want. You can have as quiet or as loud
because it's in your own fucking car. Even ifyou have the windows down. I know people who
do that for their fucking Christmas. decorationson their house. Yeah. You go to their house,
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and then they have a little sign that says tunein to this channel. And then you can watch
their little show with the music because theyhave a little transmitter at their house. I
could do that. This is how we solve that. It'sjust the sound. No, I'm not joking, though.
I know this sounds like I'm saying this stufffor the sake of the podcast. But I can tell
you right now, I am going to open a drive-through.I just. Drive in! God damn it! I.
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How is my brain not able to do that? As muchas I, what the drive-in gives you, that is
you get the community without being too closeto actual people. Yeah, you don't like that.
It's just an approach. You don't like actualpeople. You've never liked actual people. No,
no, I really don't. I don't like being thatclose to people. Simulated people, but not
actual people. But if I've got like 10 feetbetween me and the next car, that's fine. Hold
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on. I'm not really into that. Hold on. That'sokay. drive-in movie that you cannot save yourself
a drive-in movie we're going to go to a drive-inmovie imagine the day five years from now i've
got the setup i've got a franchise we're goingto the drive-in and they're gonna be, yeah,
let's go. Cause there is one. Cause I startedit. And I'm gonna franchise these all over
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the country. I'm gonna make a zillion dollarson this idea. Unless somebody else does it
before me cause they heard me and they- No,no, no. We're just gonna save this episode
until we actually put it out. Until I've gota TM on my drive-through. Wait, what am I gonna
call my drive-through? Oh, that's a good question.My butt hole. Drive through my butt hole! No,
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but it's not, it's drive in my butthole. Drivein my butthole, right? Yeah.
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