April 21, 2025 • 26 mins
Long before streaming whatever-the-hell-you-want-to-watch we had a whopping 7 channels and we never had it so good. We'd all land on the couch after dinner and watch Fonzie, Laverne and Shirley, Hawkeye Pierce, JR Ewing and Beau and Luke Duke. Those were, without a doubt, "Good Times" (dy-no MITE!)
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
I'm Tony. I'm Eric. We are the sons of San Fernando.But we've been friends for over 40 years. And
grew up together in the San Fernando Valley.These are the stories of our experiences as
adventurous Gen X latchkey slackers from backin the day. And don't forget to hit the follow
or subscribe button so you don't miss an episode.back, back, Do you need a pitch pipe? home,
(00:31):
home. Yeah, no, I don't need a pitch pipe. Pitchpipes are so weird. They should make a pitch
pipe that you can actually play a song with,you know what I mean? It's called a harmonica.
Yeah, that's right, I was gonna say. If theywould just have a perfectly tuned harmonica,
you don't need a pitch pipe and then you canplay along. You know what's better than a harmonica?
(00:52):
Mouth trumpet. Exactly. Mouth trumpet. Listen,Chuck Mangione. Oh God, why did I say that?
You're making your TV choices these days. Like,you can choose to watch all of the Sopranos.
You can choose to watch like, it sounds likea life thing. You're now making your TV choices.
(01:14):
You've been working this with my therapist foryears. And now I make my own TV choices. Are
you making good TV choices? For the most part,I am making good TV choices. I have had times
in my life... when I have not made good Well,as you were alluding to earlier on, mean, when
we were young, we didn't have a lot of TV choices.No, we kind of had to watch whatever our parents
(01:35):
were watching. Well, there's that, unless you'resick and you got to stay home from school.
Oh, well, that's a whole different story, becausethen you're watching daytime TV. your choices
were all my children, days of our lives, thenewlywed show. Newlywed game. Game, not show.
The newly-wred Tic-tac-toe. Tic-tac-toe. Thosewere the day time. Get some match game going.
(01:56):
Blah-ow. Do-tick-a-tick-a-ga-blah-ni-blah-ow.Do-tick-a-tick-a-ga. Gene Rayburn with that
long ass microphone. did he have a microphonelike that? What was the point of the skinny,
skinny, To make us laugh. It's a great microphone.It's basically a lapel mic mounted on a conductor's
baton. It's exactly what it is. It's exactlyYou just described it perfectly. microphone
(02:18):
ever. Very strange. Yeah. You know what wewatched? when I was home sick, speaking of
that, during the day, and it's why I have watched-You when you were a child? Yes, when I was
a child. Okay, And it probably wasn't the bestidea because I wound up with like a shit ton
of nightmares when I was a kid. What? TwilightZone. Twilight Zone was on like noon or one
o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, that was a daytime.And we remember, let's just tell- Thank God
(02:42):
it was daytime. Anybody, you know, mean anybodyfrom, you know, that era, any Gen Xer knows
that we, you didn't record anything. It wasjust live that was you just turned on the channel
you want to watch. what you get and you don'tget upset. You get what you get you don't get
upset. That was that's what they say in preschoolslike to the kids because when they were handing
(03:03):
out Did they wrap it like that? No when they'rehanding out like juice boxes if they had multiple
flavors. the lunch lady say that? No they werethe teachers. I want grape I want purple. Right
and that's when the teacher. You get what youget. No she never sounded like that. No our
lunch lady sounded like that didn't she? Yeah.Who was our lunch lady? I don't remember our
lunch lady. You mean in grammar school? Yeah.Alright, go back to the shows. Twilight Zone,
(03:24):
fantastic. Yeah, so during the day, homesick,watching. Great. because cartoons were over
in the morning, so during the day, a lot ofCartoons are early. Which then, my parents
made me stop watching because I would get likeYou weren't allowed to watch? They stopped
you from watching Twilight Zone? Oh dude, Imean, dude. My parents didn't give a shit if
I had nightmares or not. They were like, watchwhatever the fuck you want, I don't care.
(03:46):
You have a nightmare? Well, don't watch it.don't Of course I picked up. back up on it
later and I've watched every episode of HighlightZone ever made. Oh, it's so good. That is one
of the best TV shows of all time. Yes, Rod Serling.I think we should right now do a top five.
And this is not the topic for tonight. Yeah.But let's just hold the phone. Okay. Because
(04:06):
I think that's in the top five all time. Americantelevision shows. Oh, no question. Series.
No question. But the problem is that Vince Gilligantakes three of the top five spots. OK, but
you see the... Which kind of, can't... Youhave to pick only one Vince Gilligan But here's
the thing, and I love Vince Gilligan shows.Don't get me wrong. They're amazing. Some of
the best ever. But they're full series. That'swhat I meant. Yeah. And that's one thing to
(04:30):
write that full series. You're talking aboutwith Twilight Zone, every individual episode
was fucking... Rod Serling, genius. Absolutegenius. What's your favorite one? No, you
can't. can't. Give me a good one. Give me oneyou love. There was one that gave me nightmares.
That was about a guy and his wife and an oldercouple. They were in Vegas and It was gambling
(04:59):
one where it was one with the slot machine attackshim. Yes. And I had the nightmares because
the slot machine comes rolling to his like door.Franklin. That's pretty amazing. Franklin.
And I had nightmares about Franklin. That'samazing. Machine coming, this slot machine
coming to kill love that. Do you remember thehitchhiker? Of course, yes. I've seen every
(05:21):
single one of them. I absolutely remember thehitchhiker. She's not here. She died in a car
crash three days ago. Or the one about goldwhere the guys they rob like the Fort Knox
or the bank or whatever and they go into thosechambers where they wake up a hundred years
later. Oh, Because then they won't get caughtwith the money. But a hundred years later,
they figure out how to manufacture gold so it'sworthless. Right. And they kill each other
(05:43):
to get all the gold. love that one. I love that.I also love the... I mean, I love all of them.
mean, everybody loves... Everybody talks aboutthe Burgess Meredith one. books. I got nothing
but time and he brings it over done. But theguys who are like astronauts who think they're
on Mars. yeah. And they're really they justcrash. They crash back in the United States.
(06:05):
You know, Loughlin. Well, but if you're in Reno,you should have at least seen the signs of
life for the casinos and strip clubs. I mean,that should have been right. OK, so. Wait,
are we doing the top five or no? We skippingthat? No, we're skipping that. that whole other
That's a whole other episode. Come on back forthe top five TV shows all right, so things
I watched. Twilight Zone, here's another onethat was on all the time when I was sick and
(06:25):
I loved it and I still love it and I just wentback, just after I got in the accident, I
was home recovering and I watched every singleepisode of I Love Lucy again. having said
that, I love I Love Lucy very, very much. Ialways have. think it's one of the most classic
sitcoms. It basically wrote, it was The Mold.Yeah. of all future sitcoms. But it strikes
me as a show you wouldn't like very much. Yeah,I wasn't a big fan. Yeah, I could see that.
(06:49):
I can really appreciate now the comedy ofRicky and Lucy, but not then. It wasn't my
bag. Really? It was always my bag and it continuesto be my bag. And man, But that was also
daytime. It was daytime. Oh yeah, brilliant.No, we're still talking about homesick. We're
still talking about homesick. Yeah, when we'rehomesick, you would watch the soap operas,
(07:11):
the game shows. I Love Lucy, Twilight Zone,what else was Daytime? That was about really
about it. Because cartoons were Saturday morningand Sunday morning, so it's hitting Marty Croft
and all the Looney Tunes. That was only on theweekends. Yeah, and then it was like, as soon
as it hit afternoon, was soap operas. Yeah,and then that's when you took your cough medicine
that had like... the hourglass. These are the...So are the... So are the days of our lives.
(07:36):
Duel. Days of our lives. Duel. I used to bethrilled to get sick. Oh yeah, but then after
Twilight Zone, I was asleep because I was knockedup on fucking Robitussin. Which had like...
dude, the old Robo had... It was Turbo Robo.It had some shit in it. heavy narcos, basically
heavy oxy that you could buy over the counter.Yeah. Until they figured it out. Oh yeah, was...
(07:58):
We were drugged, man. We were so drugged. SoI was passing out and so that was all the TV
I watched and then there was nothing on fromtwo, three, four o'clock. It was all then
about the prime time. Yeah, prime time. Whatwas on in prime time? And again, when we were
growing up, your parents chose what to watch.So what were the me, what did your dad like?
He comedies. So he was really into, um, uh,the way Glenn Miller plays songs that made
(08:26):
the hit parade. Guys like us, we had it made.Those were the days. You're Edith. Your Edith
is terrifying, I gotta say. That is a terrifyingEdith. That is a gremlin. That's Edith on
a little bit of heroin. He loved all in thefamily. He loved the Jeffersons. He was into
(08:51):
that. kind of comes great those are great showswell what's his name Norman Lear Norman Lear
he lived to be a hundred Norman Lear was I didyeah yeah the master yeah absolute master I
mean those shows were so well done that thecasts meathead were incredible Rob Reiner and
and things you can't do anymore on TV I meanthere were so much more you could do back in
(09:14):
the days of their time. But they were heavy.They took on very like it was very heavy.
They had it was there was comedy. They're allcomedy but then they got into some heavy, heavy
topics. brilliant too to make the protagonistof the tv show a blatant racist. Yes and all
in the family with Archie Bunker. Bunker wasa genius move because then you had Edith who
(09:36):
was more compassionate and then you had theliberal kids in Meathead and Gloria. What was
Meathead's actual name? What was Rob Reiner'sactual name? Mike? Mike? Wasn't? No? I don't
know. I'll as Meathead. But it took a lot ofchance too. You mentioned a moment ago, the
Jeffersons. Hey, we're moving on up. Movingon up. To the east side. To a deluxe apartment
(10:05):
in the sky. Where more can I have? I'm wasted.Okay, the Jefferson's not as good, but good.
a top show of the time and you know, livingin the penthouse apartment and... Boy, and
these theme songs, man, my God. Oh, some ofthe best. Well, if we're gonna talk about some
(10:27):
theme songs and some shows we watching backin the day. Hold on. I it, found it, found
it, found it, it, found it. Sanford and Sonwas the bizzam. And who wrote that? Norman
Lear. No, the, no. No, wasn't. wrote the themesong? No, don't know. I don't know. Quincy
(10:47):
Jones. Oh, not surprised. Quincy Jones wrotethat theme Brilliant. Yeah, it's an amazing
theme No, but you think about amazing themesongs. Good times. Oh, temporary layoffs. Yeah.
Easy credit ripoffs. Yeah. Scratching and surviving.Hanging in and jiving. Hanging in and jiving,
not hanging in a chow line. Hanging in a chowline. It sounds so much more like hanging in
(11:13):
a chow line. than, yeah, it does. a... Wow,that is a screaming theme song. Screaming theme
song. And amazing show, JJ, dynamite. it's 70stheme songs compared Welcome back, Cotter.
Oh yeah.
Welcome back, Newman. Was that Randy Newmanor it just sounds like Randy Newman? Take it
(11:37):
It's not Randy Newman. But it sure sounds likeNo, sounds nothing like Randy Randy Newman
sounds like you got little hands you got. Hedoesn't sound anything like that. That is Randy
Newman. Dude, I want to hear Randy Newman dothe Welcome Back Hotter theme song. Welcome
back. We watched all those. dreamt with yourticket out. Come on, let's talk about what...
In prime time, what we were watching. WillSasso from Mad TV do Randy Newman. Do yourself
(12:03):
a favor. I need to see onto YouTube and justtype in Will Sasso, Randy Newman. Right now,
whatever you're doing if you're listening tothis, it's so good. Okay, go No, but the big
ones that we watched, that my parents were watchingfor sitcoms were Happy Days, Lever and Insurer.
Oh, right, still 70s. By the way, you go backand Monday, happy days. Now that's, yeah, that
(12:24):
theme song's just okay, but the Laverne andShirley theme song, killer, with the Slimyosh
Lamazel, Hassan Pfeffer Incorporated. if yougo back and those two shows, back to back,
happy days is god awful. But Laverne and Shirleyis a solid, solid comedy. It is so funny.
The Fonz would disagree. Well, speaking of theFonz. I, know, the Fonz was my hero. He was
(12:49):
one of my all heroes. absolutely. Henry Winkler,the man with the plan. I loved the Fonz. I
wanted to be the Fonz. I wanted to be, you know,he represented that whole evil, Knievel. He
was the good guy, bad guy. Which is something-Until he jumped the shark and created Jump
the Shark. jumped the shark. But the 70s, therewas this archetype. And I don't know where
(13:09):
it came from and if it happened, if it existedbefore the seventies or if it existed after
the seventies. But in the seventies, there wasa good guy, bad guy archetype. And I grew up
wanting to be the good guy, bad guy. It's theButch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. It's the
outlaws that are good guys. And that is theFonz. And that is the Fonz. Fonz is the greaser.
He's the bad guy with the leather jacket. Buthe's got biggest car and he'll help you, you
(13:30):
know, give you the shirt off his back. I don'tknow where that archetype started. need to
do, I maybe need to write a PhD thesis proposal.Because you've got plenty of time. You've got
lots of free time. I think you should work out.Write a thesis on the Fonz. On the Fonz. The
archetype of the Fonz. The good guy, bad guy.Yeah, I could write, I'd be a big get a PhD.
(13:52):
But really, Laverne and Shirley was more yourbag than Happy Day. It's not even about whether
or It's just a better show. Empirically it'sa better show. If you go back and watch it.
It's very funny. It's really well put together.Lenny and Squiggy are fucking geniuses. Hello!
Hello. Yeah. Hello. Your Squiggy is way betterthan mine. I can't, yeah. Hello. Did your parents,
(14:12):
did each of your parents, you said your dadloved He loved comedy, and you know what one
he also loved? And I will say, this holds upnot because it was a good show, but because
John Ritter was so goddamn funny. Oh dude, Three'sCompany was absolutely amazing. because of
John Ritter. Now, When you talk about Three'sCompany, yes, John Ritter made that show, but
(14:33):
you have to pick a side. Oh, it's Chrissy Snow.Okay, that's what I wasn't even thinking. Yeah,
that's obvious. Oh, I you were gonna, that wasyeah. you're not team Chrissy, fuck you. Okay,
what's the pick a side? Mr. Roper. The Ropersor Mr. Furly? The Ropers or Mr. Furly? You
gotta Yeah, do I have to pick? Because theyboth have their charms. I am so, it's simple.
(14:57):
It's a simple choice. a mile, Norman fell breakingthe fourth wall? Norman fell. Dude, every time
with that grin. at that. And Mrs. Roper's moomoos.Oh, dude. The moomoo's are amazing. you know,
for anybody who doesn't know, that's what myfather was doing back in the 70s, was manufacturing
moomoo's. And she wore basically... So guaranteeyour dad was a roper fan. that moomoo. Yeah,
(15:20):
he made that. No, and my dad loved 3's Companybecause, again, he liked good And a brilliant
idea. put this whole idea together, just a reallysimple... There were such simple, original
ideas. work without John. But the idea aroundthe show of having him pretend to be a gay
man so he can live with these two girls. Soat least in my household, my dad and my mom
(15:48):
liked completely different shows. They'd bothwatch each other's shows, it was quite a
division. So you've given me a couple that yourdad liked. What were your mom's Before we go
to my mother's, can you name the sequel toThree's Company? Three's a crowd. You got it.
Yeah. It's terrible. Yeah, it wasn't good. Oh,sequel to Happy Days. Unhappy Days. No. I don't
(16:13):
remember. Joni Loves Chodges. Oh, God, thatdid not need to be made. We did not need that.
The world did not need that show. Yeah, theydid happen. There were a lot of sequels. Although,
I'll... the Jeffersons is a spin-off of Allin the Family. Yes, yes. Yeah. Not a sequel,
but a spinoff. Okay, my mother really likeddaytime soaps and in primetime stuff she loved
(16:36):
the nighttime soaps. Do you remember the nighttimesoaps? The hour longs? I think your mom, by
the way, I don't know this. Really, of course.JR, man, Dallas. Dallas is huge. Nine o'clock
came on. Yeah, Dallas. Dallas is on. Oh yeah.And what was, do you know what was followed
(16:57):
by? Because my mom watched this too. I wasalready going to bed. I'm not gonna tell you.
Was it another night soap? An hour long? Wasit Falcon Crest? Yes! Starring... Sinclair
McFaddenhat. But also... Janey Herbalty.In addition to... Scrungy McFlutter penis.
(17:23):
And also starring... You just gave me... Youjust gave me a birthday gift in a bag with
creatures, animals that are not alpaca, theyare- Llamas. The Dalai Lama was in Falcon Crest?
The Renzo llamas! Wasn't Falcon Crest. Right.Son of, son of. Fernando. Oh, Fernando Lamas.
(17:54):
And you know who Fernando Lamas is? You lookmarvelous. That's was the whole Billy Crystal
gag was supposed to be Fernando, Fernando Marvelous.Fernando Lamas. Or Fernando Marvelous. So
wait a minute, was Lorenzo Lamas was in FalconCrest, but who were the other, was what's her
name? That, that, the actress. I'm trying toremember the actress. Oh, in Falcon Crest,
I can't remember. I just remember that becauseit was 10 o'clock man. I was going to bed.
(18:15):
I could never watch that. And Dallas was reallynot my thing. was Falcon Crest, Dallas and
there was one more big one. Nots Landing. NotsLanding. On a different night. Very good. Very
good. That was the third one. Those were thethree bigs. But you know what was on before?
I got to watch this because it was on rightbefore Dallas and Falcon Crest at eight o'clock.
(18:37):
Dukes of Hazzard. Oh yeah. Wait, hold on, beforewe go to the Dukes of Hazzard, do you remember
who killed JR? Because I do. JR shot himself.No, he didn't. No, I don't remember. No, it
was what's-her-name, the blonde sister. What's-her-name?I'll think of her name in a Okay, please come
back to that. you'll know can't remember. Anyway,she killed him. But that was a big deal. Who
(18:58):
shot JR? It like, all the magazines. was everywherehe went. Who shot JR? Okay. The big was like,
who killed Laura Palmer? Do you know that...Gorbachev called Ronald Reagan to ask him if
he knew who killed Laura Palmer and Twin Peaks.That's unbelievable. It's apparently it's a
true story. Maybe we know it was George Bush.He called George Bush. Wow. Senior to ask him.
Wow. He knew who killed Laura Palmer. Okay.Deuce of Hazard. Oh God. There was only one
(19:21):
reason to watch the Dukes of Hazard when youwere a 10 year old. Daisy Duke. Daisy Duke
in her's eight Daisy Dukes. wasn't Cooter. Itwasn't. Well it was. What's what's what's your
name? Catherine Bach. Catherine Bach. And weall, as young kids too, Katherine Bach, Daisy
Duke first, and then it was all about the GeneralLee. And then it was about the Gen... No, we
(19:43):
totally idolized Bo and Luke. By the way, jumpingthat car... And it's amazing, I they had the
freaking Confederate flag on it. I mean, theywere like, good old boys, quote unquote. Oh,
Waylon Jennings, just do good old boys. Anothergood theme song, though. Never meanin' Never
meanin' no harm. Beats all you all you neversaw. Been in trouble trouble with a lot since
the day they was born. The Balladeer. No, butyou know what's great about that? Is that not
(20:07):
a lot of theme songs have a bridge. That's true.song had a bridge. Making a way, their way,
it's only way they know how. That's just a littlebit more than the Wall of the Wild. That's
good shit. Okay, the General Lee, by the way.I mean, that's one of those things as a kid.
You just want the matchbox version. You wannarace it. Did you have a little Hot Wheels?
(20:29):
They didn't make it, but I shit you not. Youdrew a Confederate flag. Yes I did. On a Charger.
Yes I did. On my matchbox Charger, I did. Idid the whole deal. But thinking, a Dodge
Charger, which I always thought it was a Challengerbecause of the body style, but a Charger,
the way they jumped that, I they must have takenall the weight out of that car because that
(20:52):
car must have weighed like, Well, they two tons.They also had seven or eight of them. And they
did take all the weight out of Right, becausethey had to... Because they're jumping over
the lakes and stuff. A regular charger fromwhat, 68? Oh, the springs are just compressing
this gap. It would have dropped right into thewater like a stone. Now, my dad had a different
(21:13):
show completely. Yeah, my dad had a number one.So did my dad. But it wasn't a... It was once
a week. Was it a drama? Oh. No, it wasn't. Okay,so tell me what your dad's number one TV show
of all time, all time, was once a week everySunday. 60 minutes. He loved 60 minutes. And
(21:38):
Mike Wallace. Still on. Is it really? Yeah.Mike Wallace is great. I mean that was back
in the day of real journalists. When journalistswere trying to help the world and find shit
out and bust the criminals and you know. Thiswasn't my dad's favorite show but I remember
watching Leonard Nimoy doing In Search Of.That was we like I was I found that really
(22:01):
creepy and interesting cuz it's got about bidBigfoot the lock the Loch Ness monster Before
was kind of like YouTube style. Yeah beforethat before that very creepy and Leonard Nimoy
would make everything sound crazy And by theway, was my mom's that's a great segue in
my mom's other favorite show Star Trek, dudeWe watched every and it's you know I didn't
(22:28):
even remember the Star Trek wasn't actuallyon that many seasons. many did have? And I
think it was only like four seasons. Really?For the original. Wow. So my dad's favorite
show. That's what I to because we went throughit. What was it? One of the quintessential
shows of that time, the 70s, it was MASH. Oh,come You want to give me some theme song? want
(22:50):
to give me some theme? You know, it has words.Suicide is painless. Suicide is painless. It
brings on many changes. And I can take orleave it if I please do. Wow. My dad was
(23:13):
was was. big time into that show we watched.that was, like, they usually let my brother
and I watch that, but that was also heavy. Itwas comedy, but they had, was war, Do you talk
about heavy? I mean, as the show went on, allthe slapstick elements left. Okay, this is,
this divides the MASH community. Are you a trapperguy, or do you like BJ? Are you often hanging
(23:39):
with the MASH community? Are you a BJ guy, Yougo to picnics with the MASH community? Yes,
all Is there a forum? Yeah, Loretta Swift putsit together. thing. I love Trapper. I am not
a BJ guy. I love BJ. That big cheesy mustache.I like Trapper. Trapper John MD. That was
(24:02):
a spinoff. Trapper John MD? It was? Yeah, therewas a spinoff, right? I don't remember who
But you know, mean, you have your Charles,versus Charles Nelson Riley. Charles Nelson
Riley would have been amazing. What's name ofthat guy who played Charles David Ogden Steers?
(24:24):
Who's also in better off dead as the fatherwho's amazing. Absolutely amazing. He's great.
And better off dead. He's the book like tryingto like talk the vernacular of the teenager.
He's like Dude, you're really putting me off.He's can't get it He's looking through the
book like trying to talk. Oh my God. Right off.He was great in MASH. He's a great character.
(24:50):
But so was Frank Burns. Again, was like Trapperand Frank Burns and then you had Charles Winchester
and BJ Honeycutt. Okay, that again, I can'teven. There's comparison. Frank Burns was amazing.
Frank Burns was unbelievable. He was fantastic.I was sad. And the show, Alan Alda, like, I
(25:10):
mean, he's crux of that show. But you know whatreally made that show? Who really made that
show? was fucking Clanger. Jamie fucking Oh,Jamie Farr was great. Always trying to get
the section eight, get thrown out. Jamie Farrwas great. I had, I went to a party the other
night at Kelly's house and Sarah Kelly's sisterwas wearing socks. And well, you know, as one
(25:31):
does. With Jamie Farr on them? As one does.Please tell me Jamie Farr was on my socks.
but she pulled, at one point, pulled the sockup a little bit. And you know, when you pull
your sock up, you can see what's on the sock.There was a picture of a face on the sock sewn
into the sock, embroidered into the sock. AndI said, is that radar from MASH? Was it? No,
it was Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And can I tell yousomething crazy? You know what? You don't need
(25:56):
to, they, they look at, pulled up a pictureof radar. Yeah. They look exactly like look,
and it is the same visage. Ruth Bader radar.Ruth Bader, Ruth radar, Ruth radar Ginsburg.
RBG radar. That's what I was saying. It's radarBader, Radar Bader Ginsburg.
(26:21):
listening to the Sons of San Fernando. Don'tforget to hit that subscribe or follow button
in your favorite podcast app so you don't missan episode. Drop us a review, we'd love to
hear from you. If you'd like to support theSons of San Fernando, the best way is to share
the show. We'll catch you on the next episode.
I'm Tony. I'm Eric. We are the sons of San Fernando.But we've been friends for over 40 years. And
grew up together in the San Fernando Valley.These are the stories of our experiences as
adventurous Gen X latchkey slackers from backin the day. And don't forget to hit the follow
or subscribe button so you don't miss an episode.back, back, Do you need a pitch pipe? home,
(00:31):
home. Yeah, no, I don't need a pitch pipe. Pitchpipes are so weird. They should make a pitch
pipe that you can actually play a song with,you know what I mean? It's called a harmonica.
Yeah, that's right, I was gonna say. If theywould just have a perfectly tuned harmonica,
you don't need a pitch pipe and then you canplay along. You know what's better than a harmonica?
(00:52):
Mouth trumpet. Exactly. Mouth trumpet. Listen,Chuck Mangione. Oh God, why did I say that?
You're making your TV choices these days. Like,you can choose to watch all of the Sopranos.
You can choose to watch like, it sounds likea life thing. You're now making your TV choices.
(01:14):
You've been working this with my therapist foryears. And now I make my own TV choices. Are
you making good TV choices? For the most part,I am making good TV choices. I have had times
in my life... when I have not made good Well,as you were alluding to earlier on, mean, when
we were young, we didn't have a lot of TV choices.No, we kind of had to watch whatever our parents
(01:35):
were watching. Well, there's that, unless you'resick and you got to stay home from school.
Oh, well, that's a whole different story, becausethen you're watching daytime TV. your choices
were all my children, days of our lives, thenewlywed show. Newlywed game. Game, not show.
The newly-wred Tic-tac-toe. Tic-tac-toe. Thosewere the day time. Get some match game going.
(01:56):
Blah-ow. Do-tick-a-tick-a-ga-blah-ni-blah-ow.Do-tick-a-tick-a-ga. Gene Rayburn with that
long ass microphone. did he have a microphonelike that? What was the point of the skinny,
skinny, To make us laugh. It's a great microphone.It's basically a lapel mic mounted on a conductor's
baton. It's exactly what it is. It's exactlyYou just described it perfectly. microphone
(02:18):
ever. Very strange. Yeah. You know what wewatched? when I was home sick, speaking of
that, during the day, and it's why I have watched-You when you were a child? Yes, when I was
a child. Okay, And it probably wasn't the bestidea because I wound up with like a shit ton
of nightmares when I was a kid. What? TwilightZone. Twilight Zone was on like noon or one
o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, that was a daytime.And we remember, let's just tell- Thank God
(02:42):
it was daytime. Anybody, you know, mean anybodyfrom, you know, that era, any Gen Xer knows
that we, you didn't record anything. It wasjust live that was you just turned on the channel
you want to watch. what you get and you don'tget upset. You get what you get you don't get
upset. That was that's what they say in preschoolslike to the kids because when they were handing
(03:03):
out Did they wrap it like that? No when they'rehanding out like juice boxes if they had multiple
flavors. the lunch lady say that? No they werethe teachers. I want grape I want purple. Right
and that's when the teacher. You get what youget. No she never sounded like that. No our
lunch lady sounded like that didn't she? Yeah.Who was our lunch lady? I don't remember our
lunch lady. You mean in grammar school? Yeah.Alright, go back to the shows. Twilight Zone,
(03:24):
fantastic. Yeah, so during the day, homesick,watching. Great. because cartoons were over
in the morning, so during the day, a lot ofCartoons are early. Which then, my parents
made me stop watching because I would get likeYou weren't allowed to watch? They stopped
you from watching Twilight Zone? Oh dude, Imean, dude. My parents didn't give a shit if
I had nightmares or not. They were like, watchwhatever the fuck you want, I don't care.
(03:46):
You have a nightmare? Well, don't watch it.don't Of course I picked up. back up on it
later and I've watched every episode of HighlightZone ever made. Oh, it's so good. That is one
of the best TV shows of all time. Yes, Rod Serling.I think we should right now do a top five.
And this is not the topic for tonight. Yeah.But let's just hold the phone. Okay. Because
(04:06):
I think that's in the top five all time. Americantelevision shows. Oh, no question. Series.
No question. But the problem is that Vince Gilligantakes three of the top five spots. OK, but
you see the... Which kind of, can't... Youhave to pick only one Vince Gilligan But here's
the thing, and I love Vince Gilligan shows.Don't get me wrong. They're amazing. Some of
the best ever. But they're full series. That'swhat I meant. Yeah. And that's one thing to
(04:30):
write that full series. You're talking aboutwith Twilight Zone, every individual episode
was fucking... Rod Serling, genius. Absolutegenius. What's your favorite one? No, you
can't. can't. Give me a good one. Give me oneyou love. There was one that gave me nightmares.
That was about a guy and his wife and an oldercouple. They were in Vegas and It was gambling
(04:59):
one where it was one with the slot machine attackshim. Yes. And I had the nightmares because
the slot machine comes rolling to his like door.Franklin. That's pretty amazing. Franklin.
And I had nightmares about Franklin. That'samazing. Machine coming, this slot machine
coming to kill love that. Do you remember thehitchhiker? Of course, yes. I've seen every
(05:21):
single one of them. I absolutely remember thehitchhiker. She's not here. She died in a car
crash three days ago. Or the one about goldwhere the guys they rob like the Fort Knox
or the bank or whatever and they go into thosechambers where they wake up a hundred years
later. Oh, Because then they won't get caughtwith the money. But a hundred years later,
they figure out how to manufacture gold so it'sworthless. Right. And they kill each other
(05:43):
to get all the gold. love that one. I love that.I also love the... I mean, I love all of them.
mean, everybody loves... Everybody talks aboutthe Burgess Meredith one. books. I got nothing
but time and he brings it over done. But theguys who are like astronauts who think they're
on Mars. yeah. And they're really they justcrash. They crash back in the United States.
(06:05):
You know, Loughlin. Well, but if you're in Reno,you should have at least seen the signs of
life for the casinos and strip clubs. I mean,that should have been right. OK, so. Wait,
are we doing the top five or no? We skippingthat? No, we're skipping that. that whole other
That's a whole other episode. Come on back forthe top five TV shows all right, so things
I watched. Twilight Zone, here's another onethat was on all the time when I was sick and
(06:25):
I loved it and I still love it and I just wentback, just after I got in the accident, I
was home recovering and I watched every singleepisode of I Love Lucy again. having said
that, I love I Love Lucy very, very much. Ialways have. think it's one of the most classic
sitcoms. It basically wrote, it was The Mold.Yeah. of all future sitcoms. But it strikes
me as a show you wouldn't like very much. Yeah,I wasn't a big fan. Yeah, I could see that.
(06:49):
I can really appreciate now the comedy ofRicky and Lucy, but not then. It wasn't my
bag. Really? It was always my bag and it continuesto be my bag. And man, But that was also
daytime. It was daytime. Oh yeah, brilliant.No, we're still talking about homesick. We're
still talking about homesick. Yeah, when we'rehomesick, you would watch the soap operas,
(07:11):
the game shows. I Love Lucy, Twilight Zone,what else was Daytime? That was about really
about it. Because cartoons were Saturday morningand Sunday morning, so it's hitting Marty Croft
and all the Looney Tunes. That was only on theweekends. Yeah, and then it was like, as soon
as it hit afternoon, was soap operas. Yeah,and then that's when you took your cough medicine
that had like... the hourglass. These are the...So are the... So are the days of our lives.
(07:36):
Duel. Days of our lives. Duel. I used to bethrilled to get sick. Oh yeah, but then after
Twilight Zone, I was asleep because I was knockedup on fucking Robitussin. Which had like...
dude, the old Robo had... It was Turbo Robo.It had some shit in it. heavy narcos, basically
heavy oxy that you could buy over the counter.Yeah. Until they figured it out. Oh yeah, was...
(07:58):
We were drugged, man. We were so drugged. SoI was passing out and so that was all the TV
I watched and then there was nothing on fromtwo, three, four o'clock. It was all then
about the prime time. Yeah, prime time. Whatwas on in prime time? And again, when we were
growing up, your parents chose what to watch.So what were the me, what did your dad like?
He comedies. So he was really into, um, uh,the way Glenn Miller plays songs that made
(08:26):
the hit parade. Guys like us, we had it made.Those were the days. You're Edith. Your Edith
is terrifying, I gotta say. That is a terrifyingEdith. That is a gremlin. That's Edith on
a little bit of heroin. He loved all in thefamily. He loved the Jeffersons. He was into
(08:51):
that. kind of comes great those are great showswell what's his name Norman Lear Norman Lear
he lived to be a hundred Norman Lear was I didyeah yeah the master yeah absolute master I
mean those shows were so well done that thecasts meathead were incredible Rob Reiner and
and things you can't do anymore on TV I meanthere were so much more you could do back in
(09:14):
the days of their time. But they were heavy.They took on very like it was very heavy.
They had it was there was comedy. They're allcomedy but then they got into some heavy, heavy
topics. brilliant too to make the protagonistof the tv show a blatant racist. Yes and all
in the family with Archie Bunker. Bunker wasa genius move because then you had Edith who
(09:36):
was more compassionate and then you had theliberal kids in Meathead and Gloria. What was
Meathead's actual name? What was Rob Reiner'sactual name? Mike? Mike? Wasn't? No? I don't
know. I'll as Meathead. But it took a lot ofchance too. You mentioned a moment ago, the
Jeffersons. Hey, we're moving on up. Movingon up. To the east side. To a deluxe apartment
(10:05):
in the sky. Where more can I have? I'm wasted.Okay, the Jefferson's not as good, but good.
a top show of the time and you know, livingin the penthouse apartment and... Boy, and
these theme songs, man, my God. Oh, some ofthe best. Well, if we're gonna talk about some
(10:27):
theme songs and some shows we watching backin the day. Hold on. I it, found it, found
it, found it, it, found it. Sanford and Sonwas the bizzam. And who wrote that? Norman
Lear. No, the, no. No, wasn't. wrote the themesong? No, don't know. I don't know. Quincy
(10:47):
Jones. Oh, not surprised. Quincy Jones wrotethat theme Brilliant. Yeah, it's an amazing
theme No, but you think about amazing themesongs. Good times. Oh, temporary layoffs. Yeah.
Easy credit ripoffs. Yeah. Scratching and surviving.Hanging in and jiving. Hanging in and jiving,
not hanging in a chow line. Hanging in a chowline. It sounds so much more like hanging in
(11:13):
a chow line. than, yeah, it does. a... Wow,that is a screaming theme song. Screaming theme
song. And amazing show, JJ, dynamite. it's 70stheme songs compared Welcome back, Cotter.
Oh yeah.
Welcome back, Newman. Was that Randy Newmanor it just sounds like Randy Newman? Take it
(11:37):
It's not Randy Newman. But it sure sounds likeNo, sounds nothing like Randy Randy Newman
sounds like you got little hands you got. Hedoesn't sound anything like that. That is Randy
Newman. Dude, I want to hear Randy Newman dothe Welcome Back Hotter theme song. Welcome
back. We watched all those. dreamt with yourticket out. Come on, let's talk about what...
In prime time, what we were watching. WillSasso from Mad TV do Randy Newman. Do yourself
(12:03):
a favor. I need to see onto YouTube and justtype in Will Sasso, Randy Newman. Right now,
whatever you're doing if you're listening tothis, it's so good. Okay, go No, but the big
ones that we watched, that my parents were watchingfor sitcoms were Happy Days, Lever and Insurer.
Oh, right, still 70s. By the way, you go backand Monday, happy days. Now that's, yeah, that
(12:24):
theme song's just okay, but the Laverne andShirley theme song, killer, with the Slimyosh
Lamazel, Hassan Pfeffer Incorporated. if yougo back and those two shows, back to back,
happy days is god awful. But Laverne and Shirleyis a solid, solid comedy. It is so funny.
The Fonz would disagree. Well, speaking of theFonz. I, know, the Fonz was my hero. He was
(12:49):
one of my all heroes. absolutely. Henry Winkler,the man with the plan. I loved the Fonz. I
wanted to be the Fonz. I wanted to be, you know,he represented that whole evil, Knievel. He
was the good guy, bad guy. Which is something-Until he jumped the shark and created Jump
the Shark. jumped the shark. But the 70s, therewas this archetype. And I don't know where
(13:09):
it came from and if it happened, if it existedbefore the seventies or if it existed after
the seventies. But in the seventies, there wasa good guy, bad guy archetype. And I grew up
wanting to be the good guy, bad guy. It's theButch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. It's the
outlaws that are good guys. And that is theFonz. And that is the Fonz. Fonz is the greaser.
He's the bad guy with the leather jacket. Buthe's got biggest car and he'll help you, you
(13:30):
know, give you the shirt off his back. I don'tknow where that archetype started. need to
do, I maybe need to write a PhD thesis proposal.Because you've got plenty of time. You've got
lots of free time. I think you should work out.Write a thesis on the Fonz. On the Fonz. The
archetype of the Fonz. The good guy, bad guy.Yeah, I could write, I'd be a big get a PhD.
(13:52):
But really, Laverne and Shirley was more yourbag than Happy Day. It's not even about whether
or It's just a better show. Empirically it'sa better show. If you go back and watch it.
It's very funny. It's really well put together.Lenny and Squiggy are fucking geniuses. Hello!
Hello. Yeah. Hello. Your Squiggy is way betterthan mine. I can't, yeah. Hello. Did your parents,
(14:12):
did each of your parents, you said your dadloved He loved comedy, and you know what one
he also loved? And I will say, this holds upnot because it was a good show, but because
John Ritter was so goddamn funny. Oh dude, Three'sCompany was absolutely amazing. because of
John Ritter. Now, When you talk about Three'sCompany, yes, John Ritter made that show, but
(14:33):
you have to pick a side. Oh, it's Chrissy Snow.Okay, that's what I wasn't even thinking. Yeah,
that's obvious. Oh, I you were gonna, that wasyeah. you're not team Chrissy, fuck you. Okay,
what's the pick a side? Mr. Roper. The Ropersor Mr. Furly? The Ropers or Mr. Furly? You
gotta Yeah, do I have to pick? Because theyboth have their charms. I am so, it's simple.
(14:57):
It's a simple choice. a mile, Norman fell breakingthe fourth wall? Norman fell. Dude, every time
with that grin. at that. And Mrs. Roper's moomoos.Oh, dude. The moomoo's are amazing. you know,
for anybody who doesn't know, that's what myfather was doing back in the 70s, was manufacturing
moomoo's. And she wore basically... So guaranteeyour dad was a roper fan. that moomoo. Yeah,
(15:20):
he made that. No, and my dad loved 3's Companybecause, again, he liked good And a brilliant
idea. put this whole idea together, just a reallysimple... There were such simple, original
ideas. work without John. But the idea aroundthe show of having him pretend to be a gay
man so he can live with these two girls. Soat least in my household, my dad and my mom
(15:48):
liked completely different shows. They'd bothwatch each other's shows, it was quite a
division. So you've given me a couple that yourdad liked. What were your mom's Before we go
to my mother's, can you name the sequel toThree's Company? Three's a crowd. You got it.
Yeah. It's terrible. Yeah, it wasn't good. Oh,sequel to Happy Days. Unhappy Days. No. I don't
(16:13):
remember. Joni Loves Chodges. Oh, God, thatdid not need to be made. We did not need that.
The world did not need that show. Yeah, theydid happen. There were a lot of sequels. Although,
I'll... the Jeffersons is a spin-off of Allin the Family. Yes, yes. Yeah. Not a sequel,
but a spinoff. Okay, my mother really likeddaytime soaps and in primetime stuff she loved
(16:36):
the nighttime soaps. Do you remember the nighttimesoaps? The hour longs? I think your mom, by
the way, I don't know this. Really, of course.JR, man, Dallas. Dallas is huge. Nine o'clock
came on. Yeah, Dallas. Dallas is on. Oh yeah.And what was, do you know what was followed
(16:57):
by? Because my mom watched this too. I wasalready going to bed. I'm not gonna tell you.
Was it another night soap? An hour long? Wasit Falcon Crest? Yes! Starring... Sinclair
McFaddenhat. But also... Janey Herbalty.In addition to... Scrungy McFlutter penis.
(17:23):
And also starring... You just gave me... Youjust gave me a birthday gift in a bag with
creatures, animals that are not alpaca, theyare- Llamas. The Dalai Lama was in Falcon Crest?
The Renzo llamas! Wasn't Falcon Crest. Right.Son of, son of. Fernando. Oh, Fernando Lamas.
(17:54):
And you know who Fernando Lamas is? You lookmarvelous. That's was the whole Billy Crystal
gag was supposed to be Fernando, Fernando Marvelous.Fernando Lamas. Or Fernando Marvelous. So
wait a minute, was Lorenzo Lamas was in FalconCrest, but who were the other, was what's her
name? That, that, the actress. I'm trying toremember the actress. Oh, in Falcon Crest,
I can't remember. I just remember that becauseit was 10 o'clock man. I was going to bed.
(18:15):
I could never watch that. And Dallas was reallynot my thing. was Falcon Crest, Dallas and
there was one more big one. Nots Landing. NotsLanding. On a different night. Very good. Very
good. That was the third one. Those were thethree bigs. But you know what was on before?
I got to watch this because it was on rightbefore Dallas and Falcon Crest at eight o'clock.
(18:37):
Dukes of Hazzard. Oh yeah. Wait, hold on, beforewe go to the Dukes of Hazzard, do you remember
who killed JR? Because I do. JR shot himself.No, he didn't. No, I don't remember. No, it
was what's-her-name, the blonde sister. What's-her-name?I'll think of her name in a Okay, please come
back to that. you'll know can't remember. Anyway,she killed him. But that was a big deal. Who
(18:58):
shot JR? It like, all the magazines. was everywherehe went. Who shot JR? Okay. The big was like,
who killed Laura Palmer? Do you know that...Gorbachev called Ronald Reagan to ask him if
he knew who killed Laura Palmer and Twin Peaks.That's unbelievable. It's apparently it's a
true story. Maybe we know it was George Bush.He called George Bush. Wow. Senior to ask him.
Wow. He knew who killed Laura Palmer. Okay.Deuce of Hazard. Oh God. There was only one
(19:21):
reason to watch the Dukes of Hazard when youwere a 10 year old. Daisy Duke. Daisy Duke
in her's eight Daisy Dukes. wasn't Cooter. Itwasn't. Well it was. What's what's what's your
name? Catherine Bach. Catherine Bach. And weall, as young kids too, Katherine Bach, Daisy
Duke first, and then it was all about the GeneralLee. And then it was about the Gen... No, we
(19:43):
totally idolized Bo and Luke. By the way, jumpingthat car... And it's amazing, I they had the
freaking Confederate flag on it. I mean, theywere like, good old boys, quote unquote. Oh,
Waylon Jennings, just do good old boys. Anothergood theme song, though. Never meanin' Never
meanin' no harm. Beats all you all you neversaw. Been in trouble trouble with a lot since
the day they was born. The Balladeer. No, butyou know what's great about that? Is that not
(20:07):
a lot of theme songs have a bridge. That's true.song had a bridge. Making a way, their way,
it's only way they know how. That's just a littlebit more than the Wall of the Wild. That's
good shit. Okay, the General Lee, by the way.I mean, that's one of those things as a kid.
You just want the matchbox version. You wannarace it. Did you have a little Hot Wheels?
(20:29):
They didn't make it, but I shit you not. Youdrew a Confederate flag. Yes I did. On a Charger.
Yes I did. On my matchbox Charger, I did. Idid the whole deal. But thinking, a Dodge
Charger, which I always thought it was a Challengerbecause of the body style, but a Charger,
the way they jumped that, I they must have takenall the weight out of that car because that
(20:52):
car must have weighed like, Well, they two tons.They also had seven or eight of them. And they
did take all the weight out of Right, becausethey had to... Because they're jumping over
the lakes and stuff. A regular charger fromwhat, 68? Oh, the springs are just compressing
this gap. It would have dropped right into thewater like a stone. Now, my dad had a different
(21:13):
show completely. Yeah, my dad had a number one.So did my dad. But it wasn't a... It was once
a week. Was it a drama? Oh. No, it wasn't. Okay,so tell me what your dad's number one TV show
of all time, all time, was once a week everySunday. 60 minutes. He loved 60 minutes. And
(21:38):
Mike Wallace. Still on. Is it really? Yeah.Mike Wallace is great. I mean that was back
in the day of real journalists. When journalistswere trying to help the world and find shit
out and bust the criminals and you know. Thiswasn't my dad's favorite show but I remember
watching Leonard Nimoy doing In Search Of.That was we like I was I found that really
(22:01):
creepy and interesting cuz it's got about bidBigfoot the lock the Loch Ness monster Before
was kind of like YouTube style. Yeah beforethat before that very creepy and Leonard Nimoy
would make everything sound crazy And by theway, was my mom's that's a great segue in
my mom's other favorite show Star Trek, dudeWe watched every and it's you know I didn't
(22:28):
even remember the Star Trek wasn't actuallyon that many seasons. many did have? And I
think it was only like four seasons. Really?For the original. Wow. So my dad's favorite
show. That's what I to because we went throughit. What was it? One of the quintessential
shows of that time, the 70s, it was MASH. Oh,come You want to give me some theme song? want
(22:50):
to give me some theme? You know, it has words.Suicide is painless. Suicide is painless. It
brings on many changes. And I can take orleave it if I please do. Wow. My dad was
(23:13):
was was. big time into that show we watched.that was, like, they usually let my brother
and I watch that, but that was also heavy. Itwas comedy, but they had, was war, Do you talk
about heavy? I mean, as the show went on, allthe slapstick elements left. Okay, this is,
this divides the MASH community. Are you a trapperguy, or do you like BJ? Are you often hanging
(23:39):
with the MASH community? Are you a BJ guy, Yougo to picnics with the MASH community? Yes,
all Is there a forum? Yeah, Loretta Swift putsit together. thing. I love Trapper. I am not
a BJ guy. I love BJ. That big cheesy mustache.I like Trapper. Trapper John MD. That was
(24:02):
a spinoff. Trapper John MD? It was? Yeah, therewas a spinoff, right? I don't remember who
But you know, mean, you have your Charles,versus Charles Nelson Riley. Charles Nelson
Riley would have been amazing. What's name ofthat guy who played Charles David Ogden Steers?
(24:24):
Who's also in better off dead as the fatherwho's amazing. Absolutely amazing. He's great.
And better off dead. He's the book like tryingto like talk the vernacular of the teenager.
He's like Dude, you're really putting me off.He's can't get it He's looking through the
book like trying to talk. Oh my God. Right off.He was great in MASH. He's a great character.
(24:50):
But so was Frank Burns. Again, was like Trapperand Frank Burns and then you had Charles Winchester
and BJ Honeycutt. Okay, that again, I can'teven. There's comparison. Frank Burns was amazing.
Frank Burns was unbelievable. He was fantastic.I was sad. And the show, Alan Alda, like, I
(25:10):
mean, he's crux of that show. But you know whatreally made that show? Who really made that
show? was fucking Clanger. Jamie fucking Oh,Jamie Farr was great. Always trying to get
the section eight, get thrown out. Jamie Farrwas great. I had, I went to a party the other
night at Kelly's house and Sarah Kelly's sisterwas wearing socks. And well, you know, as one
(25:31):
does. With Jamie Farr on them? As one does.Please tell me Jamie Farr was on my socks.
but she pulled, at one point, pulled the sockup a little bit. And you know, when you pull
your sock up, you can see what's on the sock.There was a picture of a face on the sock sewn
into the sock, embroidered into the sock. AndI said, is that radar from MASH? Was it? No,
it was Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And can I tell yousomething crazy? You know what? You don't need
(25:56):
to, they, they look at, pulled up a pictureof radar. Yeah. They look exactly like look,
and it is the same visage. Ruth Bader radar.Ruth Bader, Ruth radar, Ruth radar Ginsburg.
RBG radar. That's what I was saying. It's radarBader, Radar Bader Ginsburg.
(26:21):
listening to the Sons of San Fernando. Don'tforget to hit that subscribe or follow button
in your favorite podcast app so you don't missan episode. Drop us a review, we'd love to
hear from you. If you'd like to support theSons of San Fernando, the best way is to share
the show. We'll catch you on the next episode.
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Intentionally Disturbing
Join me on this podcast as I navigate the murky waters of human behavior, current events, and personal anecdotes through in-depth interviews with incredible people—all served with a generous helping of sarcasm and satire. After years as a forensic and clinical psychologist, I offer a unique interview style and a low tolerance for bullshit, quickly steering conversations toward depth and darkness. I honor the seriousness while also appreciating wit. I’m your guide through the twisted labyrinth of the human psyche, armed with dark humor and biting wit.