229: 5 Beautiful TRUTHS to Live By

Do you frequently feel spiritually "weak" or unworthy? Like you're getting it wrong in God's eyes no matter how hard you try? What if the divine ground of your being was always there, unshakable and unchanging, no matter what you did or didn't do?

If you've struggled with feeling spiritually flawed, this episode will be a balm for your heart.

Immersive Meditation expert Julie Scott (@itsabouttimebaby_julie) vulnerably shares her journey from religious [Catholic] dogma and self-doubt to spiritual freedom. After decades of trying to be the "good girl", a series of profound awakenings, including the sudden loss of her sister, catapulted Julie into a deeper exploration of her own soul's truth. Through meditation and A Course in Miracles, she discovered that love and worthiness were her birthright all along.

Julie's "5 New Truths" offer a powerful framework for remembering our divine essence. 

 

• The liberating realization that WE ARE NOT OUR BODIES, (but rather the consciousness or awareness animating our physical vessels)

• Challenging the concept of SIN and recognizing it as wrong thinking and misdirected meaning assigned to ourselves

• How SPIRITUAL AWAKENING transforms the ways we view ourselves & others (leading to greater self-forgiveness, self-love, and self-acceptance, which naturally extends to others)

 

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Episode Transcript

(00:03):
Hello everyone. Welcome to The Soul Rose Show. This is a podcast where ancient feminine
wisdom meets the modern path of soul evolution. I'm Cherie Burton,
your host, and today we're going to dive into five beautiful truths to live by.
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you've encapsulated my goal and intention, which is to give you not only inspiration,
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in your life to further your growth, healing, and expansion.
Today we're going into growth, healing, and expansion as
we highlight five beautiful truths to live by. You're going to love this
episode. My guest is my friend Julie Scott. She's an
immersive meditation coach and certified hypnotherapist. What she does is she
helps people transform by guiding them into full relaxation so they can

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access their subconscious and get to the core beliefs that might be holding them back.
I've known Julie for years. She was actually a guest on the show years ago.
She's really deepened into her work, and I was able to experience a meditation session
with her recently and had some big breakthroughs on my own. And you will
want to join our Facebook community, solos community, because this Monday
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this coming Monday the 8th at 11:00 a.m.. Mountain. She's going to take
someone in our community through an immersive meditation session. So to
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just ask to join our private Facebook group, soul roast community, and you'll

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have access to all of that yumminess. Now here we go into five
beautiful truths to live by.
Julie, I love that we've reconnected. I mean, you were on my
podcast years ago. I was. I don't even remember what we talked about. I'm sure
it was epic, but I love that we've
reconnected and get to spend this time together, too. It's like we've

(02:12):
both had this deepening into
spirituality. Really. Yes. And I know that you, part of the
emphasis that you've had is helping maturing women
move into a new space in their life where they don't have to
be limited by, I guess you could say, cultural
constraints or societal norms or whatever. Like you can reinvent

(02:33):
yourself at any time. Yes. So I want us to dive
into, because as of late, and I got to experience one of your meditation
sessions last week, which was really beautiful, a lot came through,
and I know you're going to be coming live in our group to do. Yes,
I'm excited. Meditation or a meditation session with our lucky volunteer.
But why don't you share just a little bit about why this

(02:54):
new meditative path found you, what it means to you? Sometimes
when I, when we talk about meditation, people freak. Part of it is our old
programming of we're getting it wrong, we're not doing it right, and we get in
the mind and different things. But I think your style is really
doable and powerful in terms of the guided meditation
aspect of it. But I know you do your own meditation in your own state

(03:16):
of silence or what have you. So why don't you bring us to why that
came for you as kind of a non negotiable in your life? You've had this
string of how many days since November, of
what, 2021? We really haven't stopped. 11 11 21
is when I put a steak in the sand and I'm like, 1111.
I'm doing this every day because I noticed, because I was sporadic before

(03:38):
that. And I just noticed that the days that I did meditate
were always my better days, my good days, my days where I felt more
hopeful and optimistic and things just came to me more effortlessly. So I
was like, maybe I should connect the dots there. Maybe it's the meditation.
So I'm not just washing my hair. But anyway, I started in
November 11, being consistent with it. But really, my meditation journey

(04:01):
started before that, in 2019, just after I
had written a good chunk of my book that I wrote and
woke up the next morning after sending out chunks for testimonials
with this lower back pain that was so excruciating I had to put my elbows
in the sink to wash my face or brush my teeth. Six
months of suffering led me to reading some books that I had

(04:23):
never come across before, one of them being becoming supernatural
doctor Joe Dispenza. And you are the placebo
and then I started doing his meditations and brought reading technique.
They scare me. Can I just say? Well, my husband and I went to his
advanced meditation thing in Cancun. I remember someone
yelling at you while you're driving. I mean, I love him, and his style is

(04:45):
just very unique. It is very unique. I mean, for me, though, I used his
meditations. I had bought some CDs of his back when CDs
were the thing you'd buy. And I did his meditations for two weeks,
every day for two weeks. And I healed my back. So that was like,
whoa. So that took me into a completely different
area of study and curiosity and, you know,

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just wanting to learn all I could about the brain and the body and
how our subconscious works and beliefs and blah, blah, blah. And the reason why
I started meditating on 11 11 21 is because I knew I
was going to one of his retreats in January of
2022, so. And I had only really
meditated maybe 17 minutes total. And

(05:29):
honestly, when I first started meditating, even long before I did his
meditations, I would use insight timer, which has a little timer, and
I would. I would be meditating. I'd set it for five minutes, and I'd be
like, a minute in, and I'm, like, looking at the timer. So trust
me, I know it's not something you just. I get that. I totally flip a
switch and you do it. But anyways, that's kind of what

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led me to it, was that whole experience and just
recognizing that I felt better the days that I did it. And I wanted to
just be prepared to be able to fully experience that very
expensive retreat I went to in January of 2022. But it was
very, very, very powerful and to witness, you know, the
various healings, especially of people there were,

(06:13):
you know, absolutely life changing. So, yeah. If any of
you ever get the chance to go to one of Joe Dispense's live
meditation retreats, I don't know what they're even called now.
Advanced retreats. Yeah. Advance retreats. Yeah. It's
truly. Well, because there's so many people there. Yeah, I think that's part
of it. Synergy. Yeah, the intention of the people. It sounds

(06:35):
like a revival, you know, but it's
also done very well. And because he is in more of that
masculine, obviously, the more the masculine projected energy. It
works really well for some people. Very commanding. It's also
very gentle, too. But, yeah, my husband and I went to that, and we
did witness some spontaneous healings we could feel when

(06:57):
we were in those settings. We could feel energy. We, you know, and you're getting
up at 04:00 a.m. And walking on the beach and doing a walking meditation, and
your whole body's tingling. And that was cool. So you went through that in January.
Of 2022, and that was really powerful.
And then just to continue on at the end of
2022, my life just was thrown upside down

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because I lost my sister Kim. Total, complete
shock, surprise. And that really was one of the things
that set me off into seeking deeper roots in
my spirituality, because that really, something traumatic like that, it.
Either you either go down from that or you go up.
And I was like, I know that this is something that I can grow

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from. And all that I knew, all that I had learned through all the years,
it's like I'm going to take all my tools, everything that I know, everything I've
read, and I'm just going to go even deeper. And it was. It
really was. It's what has brought me to where I am today. The
unshakable foundation that I stand on now is
because of that, and I'm thankful for it now. Yeah. I'm so

(08:04):
sorry about your sister. I know you and I have talked about this before. You
know that I've also lost a sister. I've had space around it. It'll be
19 years this month. Yeah. But there isn't any
pain like that, especially when it's unexpected. So when you said it put
you in a space where you're standing now on this unshakable
ground, I don't know if you've ever heard the phrase the divine

(08:26):
ground or the divine ground of your being, but that's what it reminded me of
when you said that. Write that down. Divine ground. So what is
that? How would you describe that in your embodied state? What does that mean
and how does it feel? And how do you move from that place in the
world? Frankly, I don't know how I ever moved from a different place.
I mean, that's how incredible the feeling is. It's a

(08:48):
deep faith in something more powerful than me.
It's a deep faith that I am connected to that power all the
time. It's a deep faith that there's nothing that I
can't do. It's a deep faith that I am completely held and
supported and loved unconditionally, no matter what. And I cannot screw it
up ever. I mean, it's just like, so

(09:10):
I know your history a little bit. Why don't you share with the listeners why
that means so much to you? Now, like, as opposed to maybe
some opposite states you were in prior, you say now that you, like,
know you're connected to the source of all that, you know, you can't mess it
up, that you can't get it wrong, which is a huge, that's a
deep, deep programming for a lot of us, is that we're getting it wrong, especially

(09:31):
in the spirituality department. Yeah, 100%. I mean, my
religious background is what I needed to undo, and I
thought I had undone it five or seven years ago. I thought I had done
all that you had. And what was your religion of origin? Just. Cause I'm kind
of like obsessed with talking about this with different people because it's, I've noticed it
in almost every single guest. It doesn't matter if they

(09:53):
regularly attended church or if they popped in and out
or whatever. It doesn't even matter what their religion was. I'm noticing some
very universal underpinnings to this. Oh, and it makes sense because
we. Are spiritual beings having a human experience. I mean, that's why it's
so powerful for all of us, I believe. But I was brought up in a
christian home, Baptist, very strict, and, you know, just the,

(10:15):
I remember as a young girl, very young, loving, going
to church and enjoying that idea that, you know, Jesus loves me. This
I know, for the Bible tells me so. I mean, all the things that I
was taught and made me feel safe and loved and secure and it was
wonderful. But then of course, I grew up and became a teenager, and
then I was trying to figure out my sexuality and, you know, puberty hits and,

(10:37):
you know, all these different desires come over you and you don't know, you're trying
to figure out who you are and then you've got, then it turns into,
well, you need to be a good girl. All the, the dogma comes in
all the, you time know, God is watching you, he's
judging you. You know, you're going to go to hell if you do. You know,
the x, y and z. And I just remember when I was about twelve, saying

(10:58):
to my dad, who was a deacon in the church, so he's like a notch
below the preacher, right? I said, you know, daddy, I go, I really don't know
that all the people that believe in Allah and Buddha and whoever are
wrong and that because we believe in Jesus that we're right. I think that
maybe what connects us all is that we all have a faith in something that
we can't see and maybe Jesus and Buddha and Allah are all the

(11:19):
same and that's what connects us all. And I thought that was brilliant for a
twelve year old to come up with that. I mean, thinking about it now, I
still think, wow, pretty epic foreshadowing.
But my dad grabbed the Bible and went about to prove me wrong
and I just clicked off. I was like, you know, if you're not going to
tell me that God's a loving God, that just doesn't work for me. And I

(11:41):
just went through the motions until I moved out at 18. And then
I never darken the doorway of a church again unless it was for a
wedding. And it wasn't until my
late forties that I was like, I mean, everything in my life
felt like it was coming together, but I still felt adrift. I'm
like, what is missing? What is it? What is it? And I just

(12:03):
remember thinking it was the look that I saw on my
parents face, believe it or not, after they would pray and they would
turn something over to, to God, that peace that
I would see on their face, you know, however they got there, I just wanted
that. I wanted that. And you associated it. How do I get. Sometimes we can
associate that with a belief structure instead of this is a

(12:24):
natural response to actually having
a spiritual connection of any kind, is handing
it over, right. But because we made these
associations, because it's all we had foundationally,
move forward with that. Because I love it. Because I'll say this, sometimes there's
a naivety almost when you're in a really,

(12:47):
really solid belief structure that you almost have
blinders on and you can't see anything else. Oh,
1000%. And I have a whole different view on beliefs than I
used to because they can be so malleable. And this is where dogma
comes in. Dogma comes in when they stop being malleable.
And it's like, nope, this is it. And it's black and white. And if you

(13:08):
don't do this, this happens. Jesus didn't teach that way.
If you, if you really read the New Testament, which is all we really have
of like his, obviously the teachings of his life,
followers, experiences with him, which, which I found out later were
not actually even written until a whole generation after his death,
but he taught in parables. Anytime somebody came up

(13:29):
to him, he didn't give him a straight answer ever. It was always reflecting like,
what do you think? And what do you say? And I'm going to draw on
the sand for a minute while you guys duke it out, all you religious hierarchy
people. Well, I take this woman who's being thrown in the circle,
you know, like in adultery or whatever. So that was an epiphany for
me, is there's so much paradox that is about life.

(13:51):
And so to make these unequivocal beliefs of
black and white and this and that is, I believe now, very
blasphemous when it comes to our spirits, our individual
souls. Yeah. And when you think about the Bible, I mean, now that I
know what I know and what I've read and what I've researched and what I've
studied, the Bible really was, in a lot of ways, the first

(14:13):
self help book. And it's, again, just how it
was interpreted. Just like how we interpret life
through our belief goggles. Right. I mean, it's like how anything
is interpreted. The meaning we assign to it is going to either turn it into
something that controls and generates fear or
opens people up and frees them. Right. So I see it

(14:36):
now as the latter. It opens you up and it frees you. And that's
through, you know, just understanding what. How
it was misinterpreted. I mean, and face it, religion is a huge form
of control. I'm not knocking religion 100% because
some people do really find solace in it, and that's great. Whatever works for
you, do it. But it's like, my whole thing is. It's like Jesus

(14:58):
bought love. That's it, right? Pretty much it. Like, why are we
anticipating it? Yeah. I mean, love is really all there is. It is the way,
the truth, and the life. It's love. So when you saw that
look come over your parents in your late forties of, like, the piece, when they
just handed it over, which there's a fine line, let's just be honest, of
bypassing uncomfortable things and handing them over,

(15:20):
which I see a lot of very devout religious people doing, because they just want
to feel good all the time. They don't want to feel that uncomfortability because it
means Satan has just breached their, you know, existence.
But when you, you know, being in your late forties and on the path you
were on, you knew that you weren't ready to bow your paths. You knew that
it was time for you to learn to get that spiritual peace for yourself.

(15:41):
Yeah, I wanted the real deal. I had lived decades of pretending as people
pleaser, so I was done being, you
know, doing what the good girl would do. Not that I went to the
polar opposite, but it's like, what do I think? What do I want?
What's my feeling about this? I don't want someone else telling me how I feel
about something anymore. I want to decide for myself. And I think that that's

(16:02):
the freedom that I have found in the
practice of going within, because I don't. I no
longer look for answers from anything out
here because this, to me, is just an illusion, frankly. I mean,
it's just whatever I decided is right. I mean, and as
I change my mind about things, things I see change. Right? So me

(16:25):
going in for my truth and connecting with that part of me
that has all the real answers, that's. It's just like
a giant blade that just cuts through all the B's. It's like, oh,
I get it now. And I think that so often we ignore
that, knowing that we all have. We all have
it. It's not like I'm special. No. It's just that you found a way to

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access it and you've come to peace with it. You can claim it, which
in and of itself is a massive battle in the mind
and heart. It's almost like the heart's like, you're good, you're loved, you're
whole, you're peace, you know? But your mind's like. But then you didn't
do that. And then you're doing this. I want us to go straight
into your top fives because

(17:09):
they're so good. And I know you're a student, of course, in miracles, as am
I. I know that was kind of your catalyst for. For findings for yourself.
Yes. But why don't you explain to our listeners and watchers how
you came up with these for your credos for yourself? Yeah. I have
been studying for 308 days.
309 days. Plot the little workbook because it's so small and cute, and I love

(17:31):
it. And it's been my absolute rock just so that they can see it. It's
a course in miracles. And you know what? That little star they have on there,
that's totally my brand name. Compass and everything. So I love it. Yeah,
I love that. Okay, so. And it's the workbook for students. Manual for
teachers. Pocket edition. And anyone is a teacher. I mean, anyone and everyone
is a teacher and can be a teacher. So I have been going through this

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for 307 days. And it's been the most
epic work I've ever gone through. And I will go through it
again because it is that. Do you read and study, of
course. Before you meditate or after, or you
do them at different times? No, I have a morning routine, so
I will come into my office and I will read the

(18:15):
daily lesson. And then I meditate. I try and take the lesson
in what else is there for me to learn through it or
to see deeper into it. But, yeah, so going through that, and I started
that just a few months after my sister passed away. And
I guess it was in March or April, about a year now. And it
really has blown my mind. It has changed so many things for me. So I

(18:38):
have written down my five new truths, and I have them on my desk all
the time. So let's dive in. These are good.
Number one, I am not my body. I know
people hear this, and, you know, you've probably heard this, but if you really get
your head around that and recognize that this is literally just your
vessel for life, that it's just a tool for you to experience

(18:59):
life through, it frees you up in so many ways. And just to
clarify, it's that you are the awareness or
the consciousness that's animating this meat suit,
I like to call it. Right? So my husband calls all the time, and I'm
like, okay, meat suit is
good me, because it does kind of show you, like, we're just a bag

(19:20):
of bones and tissue and blood. But that's not. Not at all.
It's just a servant, really, for us. At the same time.
Yes. And at the same time to be embodied too.
Like, if we didn't have a body, you know, in this,
like, now, you know, 2024 or whatever, there wouldn't be
as much power to transform our consciousness

(19:43):
without it. So even though we're not,
it's just that vehicle helps our soul expand.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's a beautiful thing. Again, I
mentioned before we started recording there's so many things that I even can't even
articulate because it's just so
juicy. So because I'm not my body, I'll never know

(20:03):
death. My body will die, but I will not
know death because my awareness cannot
die. Or my energy or my consciousness or my spirit or my
soul, whatever you want to call it, whatever relates to you
cannot die. I'll never know death. Awesome.
So you can't be damned to everlasting.

(20:25):
Stone fire. Exactly. It's kind of ridiculous. Now, when you think
about that, everlasting. Doesn'T make any sense. I mean, I
don't believe in hell. No. But a lot of people say hell is metaphor for
a state of your mind. And I say right now, we're in hell. This is
hell. We're in a realm that is vibing at a really
low consciousness, a huge spectrum. There's a lot of people waking up. There's a

(20:47):
lot of light and whatever, but the polarity. I love the
idea of claiming everlasting life
without an authority figure, telling you if you're worthy to have
it. I mean, we all are. I mean, we all are just
by our divine right. I mean, because
we are children of the creator. We are. We are that

(21:09):
everlasting because we are it. We're just a
slice of the creator, right? And you're just a piece of that.
So if you're. If you're a drop in the ocean, a drop
doesn't cease to be the ocean. It still has the ocean in that drop. Yeah,
I love that metaphor. So I really love. So there's no. So you'll never
know death. Is that the second one? That's the second one. The third

(21:31):
one. There is nothing to fear then, right? Because death is the ultimate
fear, right. We're all afraid of dying. So if you're. If you
can't die, then there's really nothing to fear. Everything else in between is just
details, right? I have talked to a couple of people who are, like, in this
deep existential place, which I have been,
where it's like, okay, if my consciousness goes on and

(21:53):
I can't die, I will still never have this form again.
I'll still never play this role again. And so there's some
reticence around releasing our roles, the relationships
we've made, and the, you know, the places we've
served. How would you speak to that in terms of, like, the death and the
fear of, like, people who were like, well, why? Deductive reasoning. So,

(22:15):
like, okay, so if there's no death, how does that
automatically mean there's no fear? When. When things happen,
die, like, certain things have to die. Not that we
will. Do you know where I'm going with this? I do, but, I mean, I
think. Just to clarify, I think that one of the biggest
fears that people have in general is the death of the

(22:36):
body. Right. The death of the
body. And so from that standpoint, it's like, yes,
we can witness, like I witnessed, or I feel the
loss of my sister Kim's body. Right,
right. Her physical, the touch of her hand, the, you
know, whatever. But it's another because of losing her. It's

(22:58):
like I literally, every day in my meditation,
I am with her. I mean, like, it is so real. She
is there. I can hear her voice. I can hear her
laughter. I can feel the touch of her hands. I mean, it's like she
is there. And so therefore, I know that she is not that's a
beautiful gift. I mean, her body is not here. And that's what has

(23:21):
taught you, right? As you deepen into this understanding. Yeah, huge.
Like, I don't think I would be here without sure of it, honestly.
But did I answer the question? Yeah, no, that's great. You and I had talked
before about how there's nothing to fear, but you and I have this deep fear
of the dark well into our adult lives. And let's
talk about what that's about. I mean, I have some awareness around what that is

(23:42):
for me, but. Yeah, I don't, I haven't actually figured out what
the source of that was. But I did share with you
that I. Certain things that I used to be afraid of doing,
I'm not anymore. Like walking outside at night, I'm not afraid
anymore. Getting into bed, standing by my bed,
turning my bed down, turning on my meditation music,

(24:04):
still standing next to my bed, turning the light off and then getting into bed.
Like that never happened. I was always like diving
into the bed and then turning the light off because I had this fear
of either something under my bed or just something in the dark.
That if I was under the covers, I mean, if I were under the covers,
I was safe. I mean, all these fears from my child. Totally. I was afraid

(24:26):
of something under the bed as well. I think a lot of kids are. But
even when I kneeled down to pray well into my adulthood,
and some of it was like some old religious programming around,
like, Satan doesn't want you to pray. And so what if an evil
spirit came and like thwarted this and just
so many crazy, like,

(24:47):
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know, we have to look at that fear, right? Like, what was that
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membership. I don't know. I mean, I, I think,
you know, I watched a lot of, you know, scary movies as a

(25:53):
kid. And, you know, I lived in the country, so there was a lot of,
I mean, I had to put our dog in our barn at night, and my
sister would watch me from the back porch and I would run to the barn.
I would beat the dog to the barn and then run back to the house,
you know, speed of light, just so I wouldn't be in the dark for
any amount of time. And I wouldn't do it without her watching, you

(26:14):
know? But, I mean, I don't know where that. I don't really know. This is
probably just the fear of unknown and not being able to see.
Yeah, probably. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. But I, I
feel so, like that's just been lifted. And it
wasn't even something I was really conscious of until I just found
myself doing things like laying on my back with

(26:35):
no sheet because I live in Palm Springs, California, so it's hot here a
lot. Laying on my bed without a sheet or anything on. Laying on my
bed. And I always had to have my hands somewhere on my chest or my
belly or a sheet over me or something. And now I can just
lay there with my arms out to the side. You don't need that security
blanket because you are the security blanket. You are

(26:57):
protective. I'm safe, supported, and always held
in love. And I even go as far as to
imagine traveling through life in my heart. Because when
I'm traveling through life through, and that, to me, is love,
I am basically bulletproof. I mean, I am just surrounded by love
always. And that is a, that's a big deal. Yeah. I

(27:20):
mean, that really is a, that's a feeling that you just. I mean, I
just. I think, too, the opposite of fear is love. Right. And so we haven't
felt worthy of love. So we had to stay in fear. We had to stay
in a fear based state to access love. That's the
gift. What I study with, like, the gene keys and different things. It's like you
can't access the gift of something unless you sit in the shadow. We weren't taught

(27:41):
that. We were taught that if we were in a shadow state or let's just
say in the dark that literally we could be taken captive
by the evil forces and that we didn't have power over that we
felt powerless. I've done so much deconstruction around this. It's
ridiculous, you know? Anyway, so. So, number one, you're not your
body. Number two, you'll never know death. Number three, because there's nothing

(28:03):
to fear, is your love. So what is the. What is the fourth one? My
thoughts alone cause my pain. This
is a big one, too. Any pain, whether it's fear,
guilt, shame, physical pain. That's
why anesthesia works. Your thoughts alone cause all
pain. I mean, I shared the story about walking along the beach, and

(28:25):
I had cut my foot on a piece of glass or something. I don't even
know what cut my foot, but I was walking along the beach for probably 2
miles, talking to a good friend of mine. Just chatty, chatty. And then we
sat down for a minute, and we crossed our, you know, sat down, crossed my
legs, and I was just as we were talking, just brushing the sand off of
my foot. And then I see this on my left foot. It's like, oh,
it's a lot of sand. It's not coming off. And I kind of had to

(28:48):
dig it off. And then I saw blood, and then I felt pain.
I was like, it didn't hurt till. You saw the blood,
right? I mean, there's countless studies of people who
can walk across hot coals and not get burned. Or when they're hypnotized, get burned
by a pencil eraser. That's. Then they're told it's a lit cigarette and
vice versa. It's also like that placebo effect as well. Under

(29:10):
placebo. Yeah. We walked, my. My husband and our three oldest kids, we walked across
the hot coals at a Tony Robbins thing. It was so funny. We were all
in the same line, and only my daughter
felt the holes. She's like, what am I doing wrong? Da da da. I'm like,
it's not wrong. But she was the only one who got any kind of burns
or blisters or anything like that. It was really, really, really interesting.

(29:32):
Anyway. Interesting. Yeah. So I believe that as well.
Like, when you really want to get to your soul,
that place in your soul, it's not thought based.
Right. It's more experiential, but yet
can still speak to you, like, your soul voice,
obviously. Yeah. What's. Yeah. What's your gauge? How do you

(29:54):
know? Like, oh, this is a truth coming in, or this is
not true? Well, honestly,
it's. If it feels good, I know it's coming from
the soul. It's coming from my inner self. It's coming from the divine.
How do you know, if you're not pacifying, I'm just going to dig a little
deeper with this, because, like, sometimes people feel

(30:16):
good, but they're believing in untruth. Like they've
associated. Go back to what's an untruth for. A dogma, let's
just say. And then believing that dogma makes them feel good, so they believe it's
true. Well, I mean, there's obviously your beliefs
are how you see everything and how you experience everything.
So for me, my goal when I go

(30:37):
inside is really just to get my body out of the
way, right. To just really just relax the
body to the point where I almost can't feel it,
because I believe that my body
can be running me. And when my body is running me, that's when I
get into fear, because that my body is essentially in the past,

(30:59):
right. It's showing me what, you know, whatever health issues
I have or if I'm radiant or whatever. It's like it takes a while
for our bodies to catch up with what's been going on in
our minds, right. So if I can get my body out of
the way, then I'm able to
access that place. And. And it's like, you're right.

(31:21):
It's not thought, but it's when I'm in that completely
relaxed place, and then I realize I'm not
thinking about anything. And then it's like the next thing that comes in,
that's it. So it's like messaging. It's like soul
messaging. More than like a concrete. Well, it's different for
everyone. Some people have a vision, some people hear a voice,

(31:44):
and it's typically their own voice. Because I am that
I am, right? I mean, the voice you hear is yours,
right? And. Or they get a feeling, right? Or
just something comes over them and they go,
oh, I know. It's like a new knowing,
a new understanding. For me, it's often around

(32:05):
something that I have been out here thinking about,
thinking about. Then all of a sudden, you have that moment of clarity of like,
ooh, yeah. Because that's what this does for me. It
gets me focused. And it's not about not thinking, it's
about thinking clearly. And that's what most people lack,
is that clarity of mind. And once you're clear on what

(32:27):
it is that you truly want and what the next
best step is for you, then you go
about doing that with confidence that you just wouldn't
otherwise. It's a combination of shifting subconscious
beliefs, connecting with the divine, and creating
the life that you truly desire. For the first time,

(32:49):
without feeling like you don't deserve it or that you're feeling guilty
for wanting it. Yeah. That's how you know the divine is not speaking
to you if you're feeling guilt or limitation, if it doesn't
feel good, unworthiness of any kind, it's
not coming from the rights. Worse, it's your mental programming,
and. And it's in the collective. We all hold that collective thought

(33:11):
processes that we have to just re pattern. Yeah, it's in the collective.
We're all swimming in the same water to some degree, but
I love this. Okay, so after you're like, okay, I know now
that I can listen to my own thoughts, that they're aligned.
I know when it comes in and that it's a truth for me. And then
what is your one? I just want to say, to follow up to that,

(33:34):
I choose what thoughts I repeat, because I'm that kind of
powerful and so are you. And that reminds me of mantras, too.
Yeah, I choose what kind of therapy. Okay, so then the. The
fifth one is the humdinger. I can't wait for this
one. I know what it is already. Spoiler alert. No, I'm not going to say
it. You go ahead, number five. I've come to believe and to know

(33:55):
that there really is no sin, and it's
just wrong thinking and wrong meaning that's
been assigned to ourselves. And this comes
from the formative years, from zero to
seven years old, when we receive our original core
programming as babies. Right? And so for that

(34:18):
reason, I can look on myself as innocent,
right? And I can also look on
everyone as innocent, because I recognize that all
of us were once babies. And
even the most hardened criminal, I can have compassion
for him or her, knowing that

(34:40):
they just assign some meaning to themselves,
the world around them, based on their experiences that just
weren't correct. I mean, and it just is. And to
me, it's like, this is what we need
in the world, is compassion and
understanding that we all have the same

(35:02):
experience, right? We all have the same experience where something
happens to us when we're a kid, and we have to decide
something with our limited experiences and lack
of reasoning and egocentric way of looking at
the world. Like, everything. Brains weren't even fully formed. We were
like you said, those formative years. It's like we're a sponge. Exactly.

(35:24):
And so we're like, okay, I guess that's my new
credo, right? And this idea that there is no sin came
directly from, of course, miracles, because I've read
many, many times. It's like God doesn't forgive because he
never condemns. And our job here is to
forgive ourselves. That is what

(35:46):
salvation actually is. That's what the
atonement is. One is meant.
Yes, yes. Yeah. It's. I was telling you this earlier,
that there's actually a phrase in the gospel of Mary which is the.
For those listeners who aren't familiar, you know, that I'm. Well, those who are familiar
know I'm absolutely obsessed with Mary Magdalene. Well, it's not like obsession

(36:07):
level anymore, really, because it served as purpose for where she was taking
me. But in the Gospel of Mary, in this ancient
text, there's a phrase that. Where Jesus literally says,
there is no sin, and he follows it up with more. But
just that. That phrase rocks people. Yes. And it's like
he said, it's coming from Jesus. In the Gospel of Mary,

(36:30):
the savior said, there is no sin. And then he goes on to talk about
adultery in the sense of how it hurts. But it's like you
said, the meaning that we assign to
acts, to words. Yeah. To language,
it's sin is, and I've heard this in different contexts, that it just
means missing the mark. Yes. I love that it doesn't even have anything to do

(36:51):
with you. It's that you were shooting for a certain target and you were
just a little bit off that target. You missed that mark.
But the mark is love. This is what I've come to
realize. I was actually ashamed when I was a missionary for
the Lds church. I was in this big meeting with all
the other missionaries and girls were in a vast minority,

(37:14):
so. But I was the one that was just raising her hand, asking all these
questions. And my mission president, bless his soul, he said, he
turned to me because I asked a question he couldn't answer. And he
said, sister lynch, that was my name back then.
You're missing the mark. You're looking be. No, he said, you're looking
beyond the mark, and this is in front of everyone. And then he took me

(37:35):
to a scripture where it talked about looking beyond the mark, and that
shut my voice down with spiritual inquiry. That was when I was
22 years old, for a long time, even though I still couldn't help it, and
I would ask a ton of questions. But then I thought and reflected on that.
That's a massive gift he gave me because I had to really sit with that.
Am I looking beyond the mark my whole life? Am I? Until I

(37:56):
finally understood that the mark is
Christ energy. It is love. So that's all
I want and for my life is that mark.
Yeah. You know, and so I have since healed that.
That. To be curious is not bad. It's the
portal, the inquiry process that we talked about with Christ asking with parables and

(38:18):
things that it's actually, like our birthright. Yeah.
To ask and want and whatever, just looking at children and
how they orient that. But that, like I said, it was really painful to sit
with that. Am I that person that looks beyond the mark? What's wrong with me?
Like, I'm headed into some really dangerous territory. I better shut it down,
you know? Yeah. I have always wanted more. Yeah. And I've always shamed myself

(38:40):
for wanting more, because what I really wanted was the mark. Yeah. I wanted the
love. I wanted the connection, everything that we've been talking
about. Oh, wow. No surprise that you're doing
what you're doing. Well, yeah.
I have so much compassion for people who are sitting in
the space of feeling like they're getting it spiritually wrong. Yeah,

(39:02):
I hear you. There's no worse feeling, in my
opinion, than not feeling like you're doing it right for
God. You're getting it wrong. You're always sinning, you're always weak. You're
always wrong, you're always bad. You're broken. Like, that
energy is being lifted from our planet right now, and it's
tentacles are so deep.

(39:23):
Generationally, I'm doing the work on my end to unhook
those, because it's just. It is massive. I am so.
I know now in every fiber of my being
that I am here to feel good all the time. I'm here to
feel good, whatever that looks like, right? Just
to feel. Feel loved, to just enjoy life,

(39:46):
right? The suffering is optional. I mean, it really
is. I mean, and I know now when I'm starting to go down
that path of not feeling good about something, whether I'm sitting in traffic
or, you know, whatever life throws at me, it's like,
if I don't feel good, I'm like, wait, what am I thinking? Because I know
it's from my thoughts. I'm feeling pain. It's coming from what I'm

(40:08):
thinking. Stop thinking. That's such a great awareness. Like, oh,
my God, I don't want to feel it. Awareness. Practice, like, to just be like,
oh, I'm not feeling so good about myself right now. And I feel this
pit. This is how it shows up for me. I feel like kind of like
a pit in my solar plex area. And I'm like, what
is this about, huh? It shows up in different places of my body,

(40:28):
the tension. But, yeah, I love what you're sharing that, you know, it's
about your thoughts, and sometimes they're so subliminal, like, they don't
even have a form. It's just like an intimation of, like, you're bad. You're getting
it wrong. Here you go again, doing it wrong. And I wonder, you feel so
crappy because you're not doing it right. You know, that loop, and it just. It
sneaks in and just the littlest places, like, I'll be, you know, get out of

(40:51):
the shower. I'll be putting product in my hair. And I wash my hair, like,
every three or four days. You know, a lot of hair is coming out in
my hair. Oh, thank you. And my mind. My mind starts going, oh, you're losing
a lot of hair. That's a lot of hair. Wow. That's a lot of hair.
That's come from. What does that even
mean? It's like, I haven't washed my hair in four days. Let me do
something bad because you're losing hair. Like, it's so funny. Always

(41:12):
personalize. That's the go to, right? Yeah, we personalize that we've
done something wrong, because this effect in this thing, this result is happening.
Or even, like, where I put my underpants on, I have a full length mirror
next to me, and it's like in these old, just old programs that run through
me, right? And I'm putting my underpants, and I see myself in that
old story. Oh, look at the, you know, criticizing.

(41:34):
And I'm like. And I'm like, no, you're beautiful.
And I just stop it. I mean, I just, I just stop it.
And it really is that easy. I
mean, it's just a habit. That's how you lay
down new neural patterns. Absolutely. That's how you regulate your
nervous system, is to catch those little moments

(41:57):
of, I suck in whatever form and go, nope. Well,
that's one of the things that we mentioned. It's like the nervous system, because, I
mean, why is it that people struggle so
much with making changes in their lives? It's because
they're constantly tense, because they're
reacting out here, they're getting all their information from out

(42:18):
here and not getting the validation that they could from
within. And because they're height intense out here, they're in
their sympathetic nervous system oftentimes. And. And that's why there's so
many cases of inflammation, so many autoimmune
disorders, so many things happening in amongst people with
their health is just declining and with no reason.

(42:40):
Fibromyalgia is one of the prime suspects. There's no
cause for that. It's like the mystery illnesses that are now
revealing themselves on our planet because they're things we have not dealt with
and they're showing up in the body. I want to touch on one
more thing as we wrap up, because you and I were talking, I don't know,
a couple of weeks ago, you're like, yep, you got to hit the butt. Because

(43:01):
I know you're certified hypnotherapist, and you've worked a lot with getting people into different
states of consciousness and things, and you're like, okay, yep. So you have to get
the body out of the way to access the still small voice. And I'm like,
wait, wait, wait, stop. Because when you said still small voice, I went into my
old trigger. That phrase was thrown around to me
from this time. I was literally a toddler. That

(43:21):
you can't have. That is just a gift
reserved for people who basically
are doing it right. They're working the program that you don't get
that. Well, let's call it the gift of the Holy Ghost. Like, you can't. Like,
everyone has the light of Christ. This is what I was taught. Everyone has the
light of Christ. Everyone knows right from wrong. That's just an inherent birthright we

(43:43):
have. But you're really trying to be righteous, and you're really trying to
be holy, and you're really trying to earn your salvation, let's
just say, which in and of itself is heinous. But. But
you can't have that still small voice as your
constant companion unless, number one, you get baptized and
receive it the right way, which is through the male Mormon priesthood. But that's

(44:06):
another story. They are the only ones who have the authority and the keys. A,
b, once you get that gift at age eight by laying out of hands the
gift of the Holy Ghost, that that gift can, I guess, be, like,
kind of revoked or put on suspension or
curtailed if you're not living worthily to have
it. It's a gift you kind of, like, have to earn. It's not given to

(44:27):
you anymore. So once you hit this certain age of accountability and
you get baptizing, you get this gift of the Holy
Ghost that you can go away. It's conditional,
very conditional, even though it's a gift. So there goes the mind
warp a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. That's just not true. But that,
that phrase, still small voice, it's like, am

(44:49):
I hearing it now? Like, my whole life? Like, was that the still small voice
or was that just me? Oh, no, no. Like, I was. I'm not
worthy because I, like, fought with my sister, so it's probably not the still, small
voice. Do you see that? Like, for sure. It's like,
how do I. How would I know? I know now what that is for me,
but I had to literally emancipate myself from all of that dogma.

(45:09):
Yeah. Like you're saying where you're at, this place in your life, and that
that's what I had to do. Is that that still small voice
is always. That pipeline is always there. Yeah. It's just that
I can't always hear it. Yeah. It has nothing to do with
whether or not I sin or, you know, whatever. Like, it could be a serial
killer on heroin. It's just like, a horrible

(45:31):
whatever. But I could be doing heinous things on this planet. Okay.
And that still small voice is still always going to be there. Well, and the
thing is, too, that I've learned, and I think it's one of the lessons in
this book, and it's taught, I think, three or four times. It's one of the
only lessons that is taught more than once. And it is
basically, I am as God created me. I remain

(45:53):
as I was created. I can never change from how. I'm always
the same. I'm always perfect,
sinless, unconditionally loved. Light,
holy, holy, always. No matter
what, I am always that. And that part of me that
is connected to the divine is always peaceful,

(46:15):
calm, blissful, happy,
unchanging. I mean, that's the piece that I know I
can access, that I know you and all of us can access. That's
always there. And that is who we truly are. It's that recognition
and that remembering of who we really are. We
are not this body or the things of this

(46:37):
world, even. We are even not of this world. Right.
Yeah. I mean, it's just pulling up to, like, the
30,000 foot view. It's like, that is who we really are.
And until we get our head around that, we're going to
stay in the minutiae of the struggle of this
life. Not saying that I don't have struggles, that I don't still have life.

(46:58):
Right. But it's like I see it through a completely different
lens of, oh, this isn't even real. It's like. And I'm feeling
this way because I'm thinking this way. And I can change it all by
remembering these five truths. I mean, I swear, it's like. It's just
like, boom. Brings you right back, or brings me right back
to what I know. And it's like a knowing in

(47:20):
my body, which is so full circle. Right. I mean, it's
just like, wow, how cool is that? And there are so
many people awakening to what we're talking about. Yes.
Maybe they can't articulate it yet, but there's a felt sun, so.
Oh. Maybe my worthiness is actually intact, inherent.
Maybe who I am. Yeah. It has nothing to do with what

(47:43):
I do. Yes. What I've done, what I've done. No matter where
you are, what you've been, where you've been, what you've done. What I do know,
though, is that once you reach an awakening point or a
point where you remember, it changes how you are. It
changes what? How you're being in life. I mean, you just
are more, because you're more of these things to yourself. You're

(48:04):
more forgiving of yourself, you're more loving and accepting of yourself.
You're more compassionate and patient with yourself. It just
follows that you are that then to your brothers and sisters,
because we're all connected. Roll one. Anyways, I think that is the deeper
truth that is actually being pointed to in the gnostic texts. Gospel of
Mary is one of which I referenced before, is that you,

(48:27):
when you are cleansed, when your inner vessel is
aligned, and it's like you don't have the desire
to hurt yourself or anyone else. And so how could
you sin, quote unquote? How could you miss the mark?
If you are love, if you're letting that love come through
and you are embodied in it, then you're not even going

(48:50):
to that place in your consciousness of harming or
doing things wrong or what it, like, you just have this pure
heart and intention. Yeah. And I'm going to just say. This is the last thing
I'm going to say, that really. I mean, just the way that I look at
things now, it's like, because I believe that I'm always held
and protected. It's like I don't get caught up in,

(49:11):
like, what's going on in the world, like, who
the politics, the economy. And the thing is, is that
I believe that none of that matters to me. It doesn't
affect me. And because I believe that it
doesn't. Yeah. I mean, and that is something that people get really up on their
hind legs about. But it's like if you know, if you're not aware,

(49:33):
if you're not aware of something, it can't affect you. Yeah.
Right. And I'm not saying ignorance or putting your head in the sand, but it's
like, if I believe that I am safe in the dark, right.
Go back to what we were talking about, then I am. If I believe that
I'm healthy, I am healthy, you know? Right. That's the power of belief, the
power of our mind. It's like we are all creators and it's like placebo effect.

(49:54):
Hello. That's a belief. Yep. Yeah. It's just. We could talk forever. I could
talk to you forever. I know. And I just. This is such juicy stuff. It
really is. Okay, Julie, I know that you're going to come live into our Sol
rose community group on Facebook. So those of you who haven't asked to join that,
please do so you can come experience. We're actually. You'll be able to get the
recording of Julie taking someone through the process that she took me through, which

(50:15):
was really powerful to access, and I still go to it. I have this oasis
in my mind now that you helped me create, and it's where I go to
to feel that safety and that support. But where can people
find you outside of coming to. Into our Facebook community to witness
your thing on Monday the 11th? Where can people find you
online? They can find me at my website at. It's

(50:36):
about time, baby. That's my
business name. And I also have a Facebook group, too. There's a link on there.
They can join my Facebook group through that as well. Perfect. Thank you
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