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July 9, 2025 70 mins

What happens when lawmakers push too far — and the people push back? In this explosive episode, Danielle Walker and Chris Alexander pull no punches. From backroom deals on carbon capture to growing fury over election integrity, the gloves are off.

You’ll hear why local sovereignty is under fire, how scripture fuels resistance, and what the legislative scorecard really reveals. This isn’t just another political podcast — it’s a rally cry for citizens who are done being ignored.

If you think politics doesn’t affect you, think again. This one’s for the grassroots warriors, the freedom fighters, and the fed-up voters.

  • Who’s protecting your rights?
  • Who’s selling out your community?
  • And who’s keeping score?

"The chickens have come home to roost."
"We need good men and women to stand up."
"We have to continue the drum beat of freedom."

This episode might just change the way you see your state — and your power in it. Don’t miss it.

 

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Good morning, everybody.
Welcome to the state of freedom.
I'm Danielle Walker along with my fearless and ferocious co-host, Chris Alexander.
It's good to be back with you after a refreshing week away from the screens.
I was in Oregon visiting family.
Chris, what did you do?
Well, we just spent time with family.

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spent some time up in St.
Francisville and I spent a good bit of time running around with my 12 year old boy.
And let me tell you what, there's never boredom when you're hanging out with a 12 year oldboy.
That's for sure.
that's true.
That's true, especially yours.
He's a special, he's a very special kid.
Love that guy.
Well, I want to make sure to announce that we're proud to be streaming now on Voice of thePeople USA radio and TV network, which is a growing platform that's reaching about 6

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million viewers and listeners every week right now.
We'll have more updates on that in the days ahead, but we will definitely be expanding andhave been expanding as a result of this partnership.
We're super excited about that.
uh look, we're here with you today.
A lot of fallout from this legislative session, Chris.

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People are really starting to feel the heat now that they're getting back home and notable to hide out in the steak houses of Baton Rouge, apparently.
you what, Danielle, these are crazy, crazy times we live in.
But I'll tell you, I've never seen citizens more engaged than they are right now becausethey're not engaged in a happy way at all.

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But I think that the days of Republican legislators being able to pull the wool over theeyes of constituents are over.
And I think we owe a big, big debt of gratitude to President Trump for that.
So much of the transparency that we see now, so much of the accountability and so much ofthe citizen engagement that we see is because President Trump just ripped the scab off the

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womb and everybody sees it now.
yeah, it's true.
And today, I think, you know, it's more than fair to say that the big looming topic acrossthe state is this eminent domain of carbon capture.
And so we have some updates on that and, you know, including some serious challenges tolocal sovereignty, along with some fallout from some of the other topics that were high on

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our agenda.
So before we get into all that today, why don't I read the scripture of the day?
get our heads on right, get our hearts right.
Today's scripture reading is from Ezekiel chapter 37, verses one through six, and it's thevision of the valley of dry bones.
It says, the hand of the Lord was upon me and he brought me out by the spirit of the Lordand set me down in the middle of the valley and it was full of bones.

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He caused me to pass among them round about and behold, there were very many on thesurface of the valley and lo, they were very
dry.
He said to me, Son of man, can these bones live?
And I answered, Oh, Lord God, you know.
Again, he said to me, prophesy over these bones and say to them, Oh, bones, hear the wordof the Lord.

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Thus says the Lord God to these bones, behold, I will cause breath to enter you that youmay come to life.
I will put sin use on you, make flesh grow back on you, cover you with skin and put breathin you that you may come alive.
and you will know that I am the Lord.
And you know, we all have times where we feel like our bones are dry and we're in need offresh life.

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And we can look at circumstances in our lives and in the world around us that are so bleakand so desolate, it may seem that they're impossible to restore, but the Lord is the one
who can breathe restoration, revival and refreshing.
into our lives and into our souls, into our bodies.
And he can do the same thing for circumstances and relationships and in our communitiesand our nation.

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Nothing is impossible for the God of all creation.
If he made it, he can fix it.
If this dry bones picture resonates with you today, this morning especially, in the nameof let me, let me.
prophesy over you as Ezekiel did over the Valley of Dry Bones.

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And I'll say in the name of Jesus, you and your life, your relationships, your desolatecircumstances will come back to life.
I speak restoration, revival and turnaround.
I speak the fresh breath of God into your body, your soul, your life, your circumstancesand our nation in the name of Jesus.

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Amen.
Amen.
You know, Danielle, the devil hates the idea of God being able to touch our hearts and ourminds and our lives with His grace.
The devil hates it, and he will put whatever he can possibly put into our minds and intoour hearts to serve as an impediment to God's grace and as an impediment to a deep

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understanding and knowledge of God's love.
any lie he has to try to tell us to keep us separate from God.
And I really believe that that is why many people, and at times in my life, myselfincluded, probably you included, have operated and existed as dry bones because the devil,

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he is so subtle.
ah And so deceitful and yet in many ways so powerful in being able to get us to believelies Things that I'm never gonna be good enough.
I've done too many bad things ah If if God really knew the things that I've done in mylife or the mistakes that I've made with the things that I'm ashamed of There's no way I

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can be loved.
There's no way I can be loved or accepted or forgiven or cleansed
No way.
And that is what the devil wants us to walk around burdened by every single day.
And that is why it is such a powerful thing to be able to accept what you just said thismorning, you know, that God can restore the dry bones.

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And there's a part in the scripture somewhere where one of the prophets says, Oh, I thankyou, O Lord, for the bones that you have crushed.
Rejoice once again.
ah And the Lord can impose, you know, cathartic afflictions on us as well because we needthem for humbling and we need them in order to grow closer to Him.

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But His redemptive power is always at hand and we just have to remember it.
It's just ah overwhelming to accept the towering love and mercy that God has for us.
ah And really, it's only grace that allows us to accept it.
I think it's beyond our ability to understand that measure of love rationally.

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In fact, I think if God were to reveal to each of us the magnificent power of His love allat one time, I think it would be maybe too much for us to handle ah because it's just so,
so powerful.
And I think it's, I'm going to walk through the rest of the day today, you know, reallyfed by your scripture this morning that the dry bones that we have, our very lives can

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always be restored by the touch of God's grace, always, and by His love.
And that there's nothing, nothing, if anything, if there's anything that I want ourlisteners to understand today, there is nothing, nothing that is beyond the forgiveness,
the cleansing.
and the power of our gracious Lord.

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Nothing.
Amen.
Amen.
Well, that'll get us into our right headspace, We.
Well, yeah, hopefully is right.
We'll do our best to stay on track, folks.
ah There's there's plenty to be angry about, so it's good to start out with with ah somerefreshing.

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Well, and righteous anger is consistent with cheerful.
We're cheerful warriors, Danielle.
Let's remember that.
Cheerful warriors.
That's right.
And you have met a lot of cheerful warriors over the last couple of weeks since Sessionhas been out, Chris.
I know you've been meeting with groups all over the state.
You came down here to Terrebonne and met with our Bayou group.

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think you've been to where else?
Lafayette?
Tell me where all you've been.
been to Lafayette for two different groups over there.
I've been to Terrebonne.
I've been to Allen Parish as recently as last night to speak to about 125 or 130 localcitizens who are outraged about what's going on with the carbon capture sequestration

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there.
And we will get into that.
And I've spoken twice to groups right here in Baton Rouge.
ah And if there's one theme, Danielle, if there's one theme that runs through all of thesegroups, it is that they are engaged, they understand what's going on, and they are not

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afraid to call out their representatives and their legislators.
And I would take some humble credit along with a lot of other groups, because I think LCAGand the State of Freedom have truly empowered people to step up.
and to unapologetically assert their rights and their liberties and their freedoms.

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And it's so refreshing to see.
And despite all the things we see around us, Danielle, that are wrong and the things thatwe think are maybe can't be fixed or whatever, there's great optimism.
There is great optimism among the people because they understand that the more unified weare as a citizenry, the stronger we will be.

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And I don't think that there's any force of opposition that ultimately can prevail over aunited uh citizenry dedicated to a common cause.
just don't believe it.
Yeah, you're right.
You know, as you're talking, I just got this visual and I think we might need to make someLACAG and State of Freedom branded apparel that says make pitchforks great again.

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uh You think about these folks who, ah you know, the legislators have been busy in a lotof ways uh bowing to industry, bowing to uh other pressure mechanisms like the governor.
And now they gotta go home and the chickens have come home to roost on them in a lot ofways, right?

(11:19):
Danielle, perfect, when you said, they got to go home, there was a representative lastnight uh who told me that Chris, he just reminded me that there were a couple of reps who
were not present at this meeting with 150 people present last night to talk about thecarbon capture sequestration and Allen Parish.

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And he said, Chris, goes, a lot of them just do not want to go home and face theirconstituents.
They don't want to go home, which is why so-and-so is not here.
ah You know, they just don't want to go face their constituents, which is really a commontheme, I think, among politicians.
You know, they want to be around people who flatter them, who listen to them, who extolthem, who compliment them and feed their ego.

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They don't want to be around constituents who are angry because they know how they voted.
And they're starting to understand more and more that the way they are acting
And the way they are legislating is very different from what they're telling theirconstituents.
And again, I think that we have played a part in bridging that gap and making sure thatcitizens understand what's really going on.

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Yeah.
And if they have any recollection of some pain from perhaps missing a curfew or somethinglike that, you know, from their teenage years, I think this is the pain of this is going
to be significantly worse.
And it's going to be there every time they go into the grocery store, every time they stopto tank up their uh vehicle.

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It's, you know, I did.
I remember saying a couple of weeks ago, I don't know how these people are going to go outinto public after some of the votes they've taken so blatantly.
ah in opposition to the best interests of their constituents, who they were sent there torepresent.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
I'm happy to hear it's playing out that way because they, frankly, that's what their votesdeserve.

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Well, Danielle, were, I'll give you an example.
When I was telling, when I was going through last night, just making sure that all ofthese people knew who the Republicans were, who killed these very good CCS bills in
committee, I went through the list.
Riser, Domangue Kerner, Jacob Landry, Orgeron, Jason DeWitt, Zee Zeringue.

(13:39):
Jacob Braud going through those lists of Republicans, guess what?
The vast majority of these people knew that because we have been talking about those namesand mentioning those names already.
And I just want to, I said, I just want to make sure that y'all remember these namesbecause the reason why you're sitting here right now with Exxon Mobil breathing down your
throat here in Allen Parish is because our Republican dominated House Natural ResourcesCommittee failed to do its job for you in the session.

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That's why this is happening right now.
we intend, yeah, yeah, let's get into it.
because because the carbon capture issue is kind of the big one that's rearing its headand you have said it in no uh in no uncertain terms that the legislature really missed not

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missed its opportunity chose chose deliberately against the opportunity to protectlocalities from private encroachment from these big companies.
and now we're seeing it play out in real time.
Would you just give us an update on what's happening in Allen Parish and how that didn'thave to happen?
Sure, and just a reminder, a little background here, Danielle House Bill 4, you recall, byChuck Owen, very important bill, the first bill called, first CCS bill called in the

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session before House Natural Resources.
Representative Owen did a fabulous job explaining the bill, explaining why underprinciples of federalism it's so important that every local government in Louisiana be
vested with the authority to make this decision about whether or not to allow
permitting of carbon capture sequestration in their parish.
It was a great bill.

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The bill was killed, as we have repeatedly said, by the Republicans that I just named inHouse Natural Resources Committee.
So then, uh as a default position, Representative Owen and two other reps brought threeadditional bills that would simply have allowed the local jurisdictions of the parishes

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that they themselves represent to make the decision.
just make exceptions for their parishes.
Those bills were also defeated by Ryan or Republicans in committee.
And that committee, was the municipalities committee, my favorite one.
Yeah.
Committee, yes.
uh anyway, uh what happened, so there was no protection passed in the legislatureconferring authority on local jurisdictions to make these decisions.

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So nonetheless, Allen Parish in a, in really what is an admirable and heroic effort toprotect their local community,
They passed their own ordinance in Allen Parish, giving Allen Parish the authority toregulate the permitting process for carbon capture sequestration in their parish.

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Exxon Mobil wants to come in there.
They want to lay the pipelines.
They want to do the injection wells.
And Allen Parish is saying, just passed an ordinance.
can't do it.
So Exxon Mobil filed a lawsuit a few days ago against Allen Parish.
saying that state law provides that carbon capture sequestration can be done and that thesecretary of conservation can issue permits.

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This ordinance is preempted by state law and therefore you can't do it.
And you know what, Danielle, sadly enough, sadly enough, they're right ah because there iscurrent law.
My point is that the legislature had the chance to confer
this authority on local governments and they failed to do so.

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And these 150 people, 200 people, whoever who showed up at Allen Parish last night areheartbroken and angry about that.
And they understand that the responsibility for the fact that Exxon Mobil is now bullyingthem to come into their parish and give them something that they do not want.

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Fault and culpability for that lays directly at the feet of the House Natural ResourcesCommittee and the legislature and our governor.
Because do not think for one second that if our governor wanted this bill to pass, itwould have passed, it would have gone to his desk and he would have signed it.
I don't want anybody laboring under the illusion that the vast majority of bills that thegovernor wants

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to at least get to votes on the floor, get there, and they get voted on.
These bills have the ignominious uh distinction of not even surviving a committee votebecause of these rhino Republicans.
So right now, Allen Parish is in the untenable position of having to rescind the localordinance that was enacted simply to protect themselves and their landowners.

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from this fraud, from this racket, from this encroachment.
And now they have to rescind it because our legislature failed to act and under state law,current state law preempts that ordinance.
And it's correct.
It is correct, but it is reprehensibly sad.
Yeah.
And Chris, just on that, I'd like to put all of the legislators who were in the HouseNatural Resources Committee and voted against these bills and the House Municipal Affairs,

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Municipal and Parochial Affairs Committee who voted against these bills on notice.
The fate of the representatives who reside in Allen Parish that did not support thislegislation is the same fate that is knocking at your door.
You can expect your constituents to be just as angry, just as incensed and just asinformed as those ones.

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look, down here in Terrebonne, am I under any illusions that there's not carbon capturecoming down this way?
Are you kidding me with the way that our delegation voted every single time to kill thesebills?
I don't think so.
But let me tell you one other thing.
Remember what Carla Lemmes told us, the state rep from uh

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Where is she from?
South Dakota.
She told us 13 reps were voted out of office, 14 reps were voted out of office in SouthDakota on these very issues.
So I hope that the sound of Jaws, the theme song of Jaws is coming for every single one ofthese representatives.

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I happen to be a strong believer and a very, I found a new thing to be upset about.
The fact that we have four-year terms in the state of Louisiana for state reps is alsodisgusting and I think just absolutely wrong, Chris.
We should have two-year terms.
Why do we have to deal with these reps one minute longer than we have to deal with ourcongressional reps who should be beholden to far more people than the state reps, Like

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Clay Higgins, Steve Scalise, those guys.
They get two year terms.
They have to live in a constant election cycle.
I want the state reps of Louisiana to have to live in a constant state of election cycleso that they have to answer for what they've done.
Because having this sophomore year nonsense where they can act any way they think they canact any way they want and get away with it, they're not going to get away with it.

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But why should we have to live with them for two more years?
Yeah.
And as you've said before, Danielle, they're going to be reminded, even if they startcoming around for political purposes next year, we're going to be reminding them of what
they did when they thought they could do it virtually undercover, when nobody wouldremember.
But let me tell you what, we are going to remember and everybody's going to remember.

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I want to say one other point about this lawsuit against Allen Parish.
The attorney that advises the Allen Parish police jury, the one that got sued,
by Exxon Mobil uh said that he had asked a number of times for an advisory opinion fromthe attorney general, from Liz Murrell, in order to clarify whether or not there were

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grounds to fight for their local ordinance there.
And there may be constitutional grounds to do so under principles of federalism.
But there was never any opinion forthcoming.
And then, you know, for a period of time, even before the suit was filed, and then oncethe suit was filed against Allen Parish, the position of the attorney general was that we

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don't, it's our policy that we don't issue advisory opinions on any matter that is eitherthe subject of current litigation or anticipated to lead to litigation.
And so that is what they're hanging their hat on for their failure to issue an advisoryopinion that may have helped.
the Allen Parish police jury ah in its fight and at a minimum could have clarified whetheror not they should just rescind it entirely.

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Chris, know, Liz Murill was one of the few members of our executive team that I have notlived in a constant state of disappointment with.
You know, she's done some good things.
There's been some moments that I've been uh maybe on the other side of an issue with her.
You know, she's had the, uh she's had to support the Secretary of State at the SupremeCourt on things that I just think, you know, that.

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uh
in indefensible in my perspective, although it may have been her job to do it, right.
But that to me just, it leaves a sour taste in my mouth what you just said about thatsituation.
Yeah.
And, you know, I think that I don't understand the policy and maybe it could be clarified,the policy that the attorney general's office does not issue any kind of advisory opinion

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to clarify an issue of law if it's, if it could lead, if the matter may end up inlitigation or is in current litigation.
It seems like when there is a dispute about an interpretation of law or an important issueof law,
That seems like that should be precisely the time when the attorney general would weighin, in order to clarify and make sure that people are interpreting the law in a way that

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is proper.
uh So I don't quite understand the policy.
It seems counterintuitive to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it doesn't make sense to me.
And if it doesn't make sense to you, the attorney in the room, then look, I defer to youon that, but it doesn't make sense to me on its face.
ah
Danielle, there were, just want to tell you that this is last night.

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they're, know, these people are engaged.
They're not happy.
And you know what you, you know, it's really axiomatic that, you know, people generallyare pretty laid back, pretty affable, pretty acceptable and under, you know, accepting and
understanding, except when you start messing with their family or you start messing withtheir property.

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you know, those things will, bring the claws out on, on people, you know, and these peopleare deeply concerned about this encroachment, uh, on, on their core foundational rights of
private property and not just them, Danielle, but people across the state are becomingincreasingly concerned about this.

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And as I said, a few minutes ago, uh, governor Landry's complete silence on these issues.
ah I don't believe is voting well for him.
No, it's not.
And you said uh people get incensed if you mess with their families, you mess with theirproperty.
Another thing they get incensed with is if you mess with their ability to voice their uhfree speech, whether that's through their words or through their vote.

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And Secretary of State Nancy Landry, we're looking at her website getting ready for theshow today.
And her website...
I mean, the Secretary of State's website reads like a propaganda machine straight up.
ah It's all lauding everything she's done to secure our elections.
Meanwhile, we saw her run roughshod over the legislature this session in a way, I mean,full LBJ style, Chris.

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I mean, I don't know what that lady, why she's able to run so much, why she's so powerfulover there.
We have our own suspicions.
You know, she does run the elections.
There's that.
ah And we know that she was a member of the legislature before, so perhaps she's just gotreally excellent rapport with these folks.

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Perhaps the legislators just are void of all intellectual curiosity and believe everythingshe says about the election system versus what their constituents are telling them.
I don't really know what the reason is for her tremendous amount of unchecked power at thestate legislature.
but she is moving forward full steam ahead.

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Could you give us an update on what she has done to date?
And also, I mean, we're hearing things at the federal level that don't bode well for theactions that she seems to be taking.
Yeah, she's in the process right now of going forward.
I know that there are some test certification uh events uh that have been scheduled wherecitizens and vendors can go and show their wares and certify things.

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uh I want to remind the listeners once again that
that we're going to hold her accountable when she says, as she did in committee, thatshe's not going to be buying any component parts of any voting machine from a foreign
country, that no voting system is going to be coming from a foreign country, that she willcontinue to be subjected to legislative oversight.

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She said that directly to Blake Maguiz.
There are not going to be these barcodes on the systems.
You know, she has committed to that on the record, so we have to make sure that we holdher to that.
What you said, Danielle, about the feds, you mentioned earlier that President Trump hadsaid, we weren't able to locate specifically where he said it, but he said that right

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after this big, beautiful bill, know, right after he signs it, his focus will be onelection security.
And I have a feeling that that will involve the vulnerabilities
ah and the weaknesses of these computer-based voting systems.
believe, and I believe that's a huge part of the reason why Nancy Landry has really put itinto high gear driving 150 miles an hour to try to get to the finish line on this.

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Because as we've said before, if Trump comes out and puts the caetus on this, ah she'sgoing to be in a very difficult position.
Yeah, and as recently as yesterday, DNI Tulsi Gabbard uh made a statement saying thatthere's a new group within the office of the DNI that's going to be taking a look at this

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stuff, specifically the 2020 and 2022 elections, to see if there was any uh interferenceby the intelligence community, or if there was any, like, and or, if there was any
political uh maneuvering uh
that shifted the elections in some way in a, you know, behind the scenes.

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So I don't expect that she's sitting on her hands over there.
No, I don't either.
ah you know, it reminds me, President Trump has said before that not only are thesemachines not trustworthy, he knows that one of the ways that the 2020 election was stolen
was in the machines, was in the computers.

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He knows that.
And these computers that assisted in the steal all have what's called a paper component.
Louisiana is the only
uh state in the country that simply has currently has no paper component.
There's no way to even pretend to audit an election in the state of Louisiana becausethere is no paper right now.

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But the machines that helped steal the election in 2020 all did have paper components.
So I have a hard time believing that President Trump would have endorsed or hisadministration would have endorsed, as she says, would have endorsed Nancy Landry's uh
rush to
purchase computer-based voting systems just because they have a paper component that'sspit out by a machine.

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I don't believe that that is true.
uh And uh I think that she's not being forthright with the citizens of Louisiana withregard to what really is Tulsi Gabbard's position on the vulnerability of these electronic
voting systems.
Yeah.
And Chris, you mentioned that ah not only is Trump coming ah with his team to look atelections and I think some big statements and probably new executive orders are going to

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be coming down the pike, but you mentioned that the smart people, the smart crooks arestarting to go ahead and say, let me get on the right side of this issue.
my gosh, Dr.
Randy Russ, a close friend of the LACAG's and the State of Freedom's uh put on our signalgroup about a 15-22nd recent clip from Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson.

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You recall one of the biggest crooks out there and someone who is as deeply in bed or hasbeen with Dominion Voting Systems as it's possible to be.
She's been one of their biggest defenders.
Yet recently, she comes out and talks about the
as yet unresolved issues with Dominion voting systems.
And I think I can play this.

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It's about 15 or 20 seconds.
I'm just gonna see if I can play it from the phone here.
But this is Jocelyn Benson and people who follow election security are gonna be going,what?
Listen.
you're gonna have to turn it up, Chris.
Thank

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with many members of the community work through those ideas to help also communicate whyvoting machines by Dominion uh that has been found to be problematic have continued to be
unaddressed for several years again that preceded my time in office.

(32:51):
Of course that preceded.
that preceded my time in office.
She made very clear that, right?
But Jocelyn Benson, I mean, it's stunning that someone like that, which really was, uh ifyou look up 2020 election fraud and 2020 number one defender of Dominion voting systems,

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her picture would appear right next to it.
And yet this lady right now is coming full circle and talking about all the problems withDominion Voting Systems.
And I think that that is a harbinger of things to come, you know, in the future.
I think that she knows, Danielle, as others know, that President Trump has the goods andthey're trying to get out in front of this or maybe avoid the onrushing freight train

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that's headed their way.
And you know what, Chris, I think you made me think of something that I think is prettyinteresting.
Jocelyn Benson has every reason to be afraid, right?
She's in a swing state.
It's a state where we know the election was stolen.
There are many people who are involved in election integrity that have figured out thatMichigan was definitely stolen.

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There's no two ways about it.
Louisiana's not in that position.
know, Louisiana's in
never been a swing state or at least not in many years.
um Louisiana is not necessarily under the microscope when it comes to election integrity.
However, I think if there's going to be election fraud uncovered, I don't think it's justgoing to go to select areas because this is something that has affected the entire nation.

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So my hope is that uh
Secretary of State Nancy Landry would wake up to the fact that she is not immune from thisspotlight.
She's not immune from the microscope that's coming her way.
I'm sure it's, know, 2020, was Kyle Ardman.

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That was also Nancy Landry.
So I just think it's interesting, you know, that the people who see the writing on thewall are obviously the ones who, you know, stand.
serious criminal fines or worse as the sound of Tulsi Gabbard's voice draws nearer andnearer to them.

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But I don't think the people in these places, in these seats of power in Louisiana canbreathe a sigh of relief and feel like they can move on with life.
I think they have every reason and should be.
doing the right thing to make sure that their house is in order because I don't thinkthey're going to avoid inspection.

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I don't think they're going to avoid inspection either insofar as the fraud in the votingsystem or with respect to the effort of her office.
Well, she wasn't the secretary of state at the time, but she was very, very top of KyleArdwin's office, know, when provably they tried to suppress speech.

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regarding elections that they disagreed with.
mean, clearly they were doing it.
They were reporting citizens to the federal government in an effort to censor that speech.
That is absolutely unconstitutional and it is illegal for any public official to engage inany effort to police speech.
It's not their job.
In fact, it's absolutely contrary to their job.

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They're prohibited from doing it.
And so that occurred uh and even it...
And the voter rolls.
500, 600,000 people on our voter rolls by many estimations, including Dr.
Russ's, that have still not been cleaned off our rolls.
And just specifically with regard to the vulnerabilities of the computers, look, ifcheating actually occurred in Michigan in the machines, if cheating actually occurred in

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Arizona and in other places,
There's no question that it could occur here even if it hasn't occurred yet.
And so, you know, I've always made the analogy that, you know, just because your house hasnot been broken into yet and your goods ransacked and your home pillaged does not mean

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that you leave your front door unlocked for someone to come and do that.
So if the computers are vulnerable to manipulation and hacking,
To me, it's almost irrelevant whether or not it has actually occurred.
And it may well have occurred, but here in Louisiana, I'm talking about.
But the point is, I mean, we have a reason to be hopeful and optimistic that PresidentTrump will make an announcement based on these EO findings that there is not a

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computer-based voting system in the world that is safe and that is reliable.
and that we have to go to an all secure hand marked paper ballot system as well we should.
And he said it and mentioned it many times before and I'm certainly hoping that that'swhat will occur.
Yeah.
Well, and if people think back to, you know, the time before 2020, if you think aboutelection fraud, if you think about dirty elections, Louisiana was always considered top of

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the list.
We were right up there with the windy city of Chicago in terms of, you know, being able tomanipulate elections.
So let's not kid ourselves and pretend like that's not uh part of our history.
I think
I think that politicians in Louisiana have been savvy enough to steal elections for morethan decades.

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So I'm not going to move off of that mountain.
anyway they can.
Yeah, come on.
Okay, so we'll be keeping an eye on this, but I think this is an important issue we're notletting go of.
This is the central issue as far as you see it, Chris, as far as I see it.
If we can't fix our elections, we can't keep our property, we can't keep our free speech,we can't do anything.

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So we have to get these elections fixed.
one of my number one priorities as soon as the elections are fixed is to, well, right nowwe should be recruiting candidates.
If any of
the legislators in your area have not uh measured up this session, you need to startrecruiting a candidate or strongly consider becoming the candidate.

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We can't say it often enough.
We can't say it loud enough.
we, Chris, your constant drum beat, what JFK said, we will get the government that wedemand and we deserve.
So if and until people stand up and are willing to
to do the hard thing, which is, I mean, I'm not saying being part of a legislature is nota hard thing.

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It absolutely is.
It takes a lot of work.
It's a lot of time away from your family.
It's listening to a lot of complaining people and competing interests.
So you have to have a tough skin and you have to have a thick backbone to be able to dothis and not buckle under pressure.
But we need good men and women to stand up and do it.
And we need people.

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And my other point on this is,
we have to move to two-year cycles for our state reps.
We absolutely have to.
This is one of the biggest measures of accountability that exists in our country.
After the election is to be able to have the election, and we can't wait every four yearsto have an election for these state reps.

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Yeah, that's a very good point.
think it gives them too much time to go in and become corrupted.
know, it's unfortunate because it seems inevitable in many cases that they do becomecorrupted and they become different people.
And so the longer they're there, the greater the likelihood that they become corrupted andcompromised.

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And I can't think of any reason either, Danielle, why they should not be serving.
two year terms and sort of routinely being going back before the people and having todefend what they've done before the people.
I think that's an excellent point.
I want to make one other point here about Jocelyn Benson.
There is no way that Jocelyn Benson is simply volunteering this information about Dominionvoting systems because she had an ethical or a moral epiphany one morning.

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The reason why she is doing this and saying this, in my view, is that someone is, quoteunquote, communicating with her.
uh And in a way that suggests that they know exactly what is occurring, what has gone on,and that she's not pulling the wool over anybody's eyes.
That is what I find to be the most encouraging sign.

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Her statements suggest to me that the Trump administration is fully aware.
of the corruption in these voting systems.
And that's what my takeaway is from this.
Yeah.
And you know, the other thing I wanted to mention, not that I have a great detail on it,but Dominion's not the only one that's under fire.

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And I don't know what Secretary of State Landry's preferred machine system is, if it's, Idon't know, Smartmatic or uh ES &S, Dominion, but they all have been found to be extremely
flawed.
And not just that they've been found to be extremely flawed, but they're under fire.
They're under legal fire.

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like in the last couple of weeks things have been coming out about it, right?
I don't know if you remember any of them.
I just don't have the details close to hand, but I have recollection that specifically ES&S, some things have come out about recently.
I think you're right.
and you know, the great cybersecurity experts, Danielle, they don't make any distinctionbetween the manufacturer of these computer based voting systems.

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They don't say that, okay, this, computer generated system is, is safe.
This one's not.
Their belief is that they are uniformly unsafe.
Uh, and that's what we have to keep in mind.
It's a great point you make that it's not just dominion we're talking about.
It is any electronic voting system.
And Alex Halderman has made that very clear along with multiple other cyber experts.

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ah Maybe Chris, I'll just switch to one other topic before we I do want us to get into thelacag scorecard because I know it's pretty close to being completed But before we get into
that, I'd love it ah if you would just talk for a minute Sparks have been flying recentlybetween governor Landry and and Senator Allen Seabaw on governor Landry's You know

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insurance reform package if we want to call it that
ah Would you kind of tell us, just give us the rewind on what all went down between thetwo of those guys?
Sure.
Governor Landry was pushing a bill as part of his insurance reform package that wasostensibly supposed to curb lawyer advertising.

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You know, obnoxious advertising that you see where the guy comes on the commercial andtalks about how much money this lawyer won for him and go see him if you get in a wreck
because he got me all this money, this and that.
It's just dastardly.
It's unsavory, but it happens all the time.
mean, the channels, media is just flooded with this stuff.
Governor Landry had a bill that was sponsored by, I believe, Kim Carver, RepresentativeCarver, that supposedly was going to curb the lawyer advertising and contribute to the uh

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cleansing sort of the culture of constant litigation.
That's what it was going to do.
If people are not always seeing these ads, then they'll be less inclined to go see alawyer every time they get an offender bender.
Bottom line is, first of all, the bill would do nothing.
really to curb lawyer advertising.
Nothing.
It just cut around the edges.
So the bill itself was largely ineffectual.

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But the issue with Senator Sebaugh and Governor Landry is that uh Senator Sebaugh was notin the committee when the bill was voted on.
He was in a jury trial in Shreveport.
He couldn't be there.
The bill, Landry's bill, failed three to one in committee.
So Sebaugh's presence there really wouldn't have made a difference.
It would have made it three, two, but it still would have lost.

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Seaball couldn't be there.
So Governor Landry, which is in typical Landry fashion, trying to uh peremptorily uh placeblame on others for his anticipated failures coming down the pike, started criticizing
Senator Seaball saying we had a chance to get this bill passed.
uh We had a chance to get it done, to do something about all this horrible lawyeradvertising.

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Senator Seaball couldn't show up for work.
He couldn't show up for work.
Well, Senator Seabal responded publicly and said, first of all, I was in a jury trial thatI couldn't move.
Secondly, the vote was three one.
My presence wouldn't have mattered even if I'd been there.
And thirdly, Governor Landry, uh until you stop taking all expense paid trips withbillboard trial lawyers on their private planes to go on hunting trips with them,

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insurance rates for ordinary Louisiana citizens will continue to be outrageous in ourstate.
ah And so Senator Seabow, it was a shot directly across the Landry bow and Seabow uhdeserves, I think some credit for being the only representative that I'm aware of or
Senator who has directly uh responded and confronted Governor Landry on some of thishypocrisy.

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So I think Senator Seabow deserves credit for that.
I think happen to believe that what he said is true.
uh
The broader theme here, Danielle, is it just as in the case of Commissioner Temple,Governor Landry trying to shift all the blame over to Commissioner Temple, when that
explodes, uh he's gonna be able to say that the insurance rates are not going downpartially because we were unable to get our advertising bill passed, and that was because

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of Senator Seabal.
So he blames again,
He likes to blame other people when his own policy priorities fail.
Well, they would fail whether they passed or failed, right?
I mean, that was your point, but it's...
exactly.
But he will be able to say, see, nobody will ever be able to know because the bill didn'tpass.

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So nobody will ever be able to know whether it would have done any good.
And he'll be able to plausibly argue that it would have done good if it had passed, butbecause of Seabaugh, it couldn't get passed.
so a lot of gaslighting going on there.
So ah I think, but that's basically what's going on there.
But let me tell you what, if there's one thing about Allen Seabaugh
uh He absolutely does not mind saying how the cow ate the cabbage.

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Yeah, well, he doesn't.
I would have been more shocked if he would have just sit back and taken the punch withoutfighting back.
He doesn't strike me as a man to just let somebody land a punch and not put up a fight.
Now, you know, he's very different uh temperamentally from Blake Maguiz, who was also astrong man and a very good legislator.

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But Senator Maguiz is someone who really did kind of allow Landry to have his rant and didnot respond, you know, the way that Senator Seabow asked.
Well, he still has time.
You can always air it out later.
Well, look, Chris, you have been spending a lot of time pouring over the votes, pouringover the legislation that we followed extremely closely and you followed it much closer

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than I did.
LACAG has its scorecard together.
It's on lacag.org under the Action Center.
If you're looking at it on
uh on a computer, it's on the right hand side.
If you're looking at it on your phone, I think you have to scroll all the way to the endof the Action Center.
Why don't you give us some highlights and some lowlights?
Who are the winners and who are the people who are going home and finding that they'regonna have to send uh somebody else to the store to get groceries for them because they

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can't make it out in public?
Well, I'll tell you uh some of the good ones.
uh Chuck Owen ended up with a great, very good score.
uh Beryl Amedee ended up with a very good score.
I'll tell you someone who ended up kind of a dark horse, who doesn't really talk a lot inthe legislature, but ended up doing quite well.

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And I became increasingly impressed with him as the session went on was Peter Egan.
ah You know, I thought he did...
very well and voted the right way on most all the issues.
uh Kelly Hennessy Dickerson was solid pretty much across the board.
uh The only 100, Danielle, the only 100 % was Kathy Edmiston in the state legislature.

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The only one.
She is absolutely excellent.
Gabe Firmant did well.
I don't know if I mentioned Rodney Schammerhorn.
He got a, he was very, very good.
And a number of others.
uh
But there were some in there including, and I want people to go look at the scorecardbecause I just want people to know Danielle that we don't give anything away.

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And our scorecard is based upon our evaluation of 35 to 40 critically important bills tosovereignty, to personal freedom, the CCS bills.
We don't just go in there and evaluate them on every single bill.
And we also...
Yeah.
one of the things that we consider is whether or not it took some courage, some backboneto make a vote.

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You get heavily, you get weighted in your favor for doing that.
We don't really give a whole lot of credit with few exceptions on bills that wereimportant, but that were not controversial, that it didn't require really any backbone to
vote on.
So, uh Gabe Firmat ended up uh doing quite well.
My rep, Dixon McMacon, right here, my personal rep.

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I thought he ended up with a, with a C or a D because of some of the things that he didduring this session, my personal rep.
And there were others in that category, quite a few others in that category.
Uh, and there were a couple of Democrats, Danielle, who were, well, Jessica domain, uh,eminent domain.
Uh, she, she just, I don't remember quite frankly, whether she was a D or an F, but shewas very, very low.

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In the 40s.
Okay.
So she was an F.
She was, she got an F.
uh you know, uh, Joseph Orgeron, uh, was, was way down there.
There were Democrats in our scorecard, Danielle, who, who actually scored higher than someof these Republicans.
Uh, and you know, but, but I look.

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predicted that, didn't we?
We absolutely did.
We absolutely predicted it.
uh So I want everybody to go look at the scorecards.
We just want you to know that they were calculated based on the numbers where we thoughtthe weight should be based on their adherence to constitutional principles and how they
voted and on whether or not they were looking out on critically important things for yourinterest consistently.

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And we tried to give credit where credit was due, but we had to deduct uh
where that was appropriate also and it is what it is.
If you go over to the Senate side, Danielle, we had some very good ones.
As you might imagine, Blake Miguez did quite well.
um Valerie Hodges scored very well and there were several others who did well, but therewere a lot of senators who did very poorly also.

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Comrade Miller do, Chris?
Comrade Miller was among the lowest of anybody in the Senate or in the House.
I know he was an F uh and well, well deserved.
uh
well deserved.
maybe I'll just mention as well that uh people get points on or points off for theirauthorship of bills.

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If they were carrying or associated with a fantastic and important bill or a controversialbill that would have been a good thing for the people, they got waited for that.
If you were carrying, uh authoring, or associated with as a co-author of a bill that wasuh
going to steal freedom from people that was going to take our state in the wrongdirection, you got points off for that.

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Likewise, committees, if you were in a committee that took a vote and it killed the bill,well, obviously there's no House floor vote, there's no Senate floor vote if those bills
got killed in committee, but the people in the committee bear the brunt of the way thatthey voted.
So some people have more votes really than other people that are accounted for, but they,you know, they earn

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they earned their scores fair and square.
score.
Joshua Carlson, he ended up with a B, 84.
He did some good things, voted the right way most of the time.
Raymond Cruz was a 91, probably not a surprise on things.
Paula Davis, who's also from right here in Baton Rouge, ended up with a 51.

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She beat Jessica Domain, eminent Domain, by four points.
And Peter Egan, like I said, ended up with an 86.
It's a, I think it's Jaygalley87.
I think that these are all very fair, but, but Danielle, we're not, we're not givinganything away and you got what you earned.

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Jacob Landry, the one that I felt pretty bad about, um, Jacob Landry, because he brought avery good grid bill for which we gave him credit, as you know, and talked about it and
applauded him for that.
He also went back and switched his vote on HB601, a CCS bill the second time we gave himcredit for that.
But because of his efforts and participation in killing so many of those CCS bills thefirst time they came up and never came up again, he ended up with a 70, with a C.

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If he hadn't had the, if he hadn't, didn't have the, you know, the burden of those CCSbills on him, he would have ended up in the A range.
you know, his vote on those bills hurt him very badly.
But he ended up with a 70, you know, a C.
Danny McCormick, the one and only, ends up with a 95.
He had one bad vote on something.
I can't remember exactly what it was, but he ended up well.

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Chuck Owen ended up well, 93.
Philip Tarver ended up with a 92.
And let's see, who, let's see, how did Chanchit, let's see.
Chance Henry ended up with a 65 because he voted the wrong way on five or six very, veryimportant bills.

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We did give him credit for uh bringing the ICE bill, a lot of credit for bringing the billrequiring reporting to ICE.
uh But it's just, you know, he voted wrong on the cell phone bill.
He voted wrong on the election bills, you know, and it's just one of those things that itjust, it is what it is.

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Brett Gaiman.
ends up with a 93, he did well.
And so, I mean, we gave credit where it was due.
We're not afraid to give an A, but we're not afraid to give an F either.
That's right, and we don't grade on a curve, huh?
And we do not grade on a curve.
A couple points, more points.

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Robert Elaine ended up with an 81.
He ended up with a B.
He voted the right way on some important things.
And unfortunately,
folks, that's a le.
Yeah, exactly.
Valerie Hodges with a 95.
Jay Morris ended up with a 68.

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Allen Seabal ended up with an 85, solid B.
uh
if he got the election stuff right.
Yes, and of course, Cameron Henry, the president of the Senate who is responsible eithersingularly or collectively with Jeff Landry for the killing of three critically important
bills on the Senate floor, and probably more that we don't know, and also trying to latchan amendment onto HB 592 to walk Bill Cassidy back into the Senate, deplorably so, ends up

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with a 53.
How did Speaker de Villiers do?
Because he really insisted on voting against those carbon capture bills when he didn'thave to.
Yeah, de Villiers is a, let's see where de Villiers ends up.
De Villiers ended up with a 70.
See, and the reason why he ended up with a 70, talk to Katie about this, is because wegave him significant credit for making sure, unlike Clay Sheck Snyder, who just allowed

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good bills to die on the House floor, Philip de Villiers did one very good thing.
He made sure that bills were called and voted on.
and sent to the Senate in a timely manner.
And I think that that is very important and I think that he deserves credit for that.
ah So I don't put him in the same category with Cameron Henry.

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And so I think a 70 for de Villiers is how he came out because of the credit that we gavehim for making sure those bills were called.
Well, Chris, thank you again for doing the work on that and for uh crunching the numbersto make sure that we are able to get a fair accounting for this session.
I think it's really important that people go to the LA CAG website, check out where yourlegislators ranked.

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How did they do?
You can drill down by vote and see what it was they did right or what it was they didwrong on which bill.
And it's just going to be really important leading into next year.
Of course, we know that we still have two more years ah with uh these legislators, whetherwe like them or not, unless something about fixing our election systems happens.

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Maybe we'll just throw out the whole lot of them.
That would be my dream, just start from scratch.
But I don't know if that's going to happen.
It could happen in my dream world.
That's exactly what's going to happen.
ah
eternal, Danielle, hope springs eternal.
And so make sure all you have to do is go to lacag.org and then go to Action Center andthen where it says view scorecard and then click on that and it will come up and you can

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see where your representative or your senator ranks on really what is the mostconservative scorecard in the state by
probably the most conservative advocacy group in the state.
So if you're a real constitutional conservative, this scorecard will be of real value toyou.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it'll be a great help as you look to determine who needs to be primaried.

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who needs to be primaried, absolutely, and who needs to be able to return to thelegislature.
There you go.
Yeah.
Well, Chris, ah I just want to mention that we have been uh named, you've mentioned thisbefore, but in the last couple of weeks, the state of freedom, because of your
listenership, because of your support, has been named the number one conservativepolitical podcast in the state.

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We're so proud.
We're so humbled by that.
And we want to let you know that we are uh now pursuing sponsorships.
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We have a great venue.
We have a great listenership, a great reach, and now we're partnered with, um like I said,the Voice of the People USA radio and TV network, uh which is making big moves and we're

(01:01:32):
so excited and just thrilled to be partners with them in their new endeavor.
Like I said, more details on that to come.
But if you have an interest in sponsoring the state of freedom, please do so.
Please send me a note, Danielle, at freedomstate.us.
Reach out to us, let us know what uh would be interesting to you, what would be helpful toyour business.

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We have packages available for pretty much any budget.
So we can help make event announcements as well, if that's something that's interesting topeople.
We can help promote your nonprofit ah or your church.
if there are big events coming up.
So just keep us in mind as a venue for uh advertising what you have going on.

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If you want your business to grow, if you love your country and you want to partner with apatriotic group, then let us sell your product.
Let us advertise for you and watch your business grow.
Watch your business grow.
Because if Danielle and I believe in a product, truly believe in it, which we will do ifwe're going to be helping you to advertise it, it will help you.

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It will help sell your product.
There's no question about it because we believe in something.
We're like a dog on a bone.
We go after it.
We don't quit and we are absolutely relentless.
So I don't care whether I'm talking on here talking about the best hamburger joint in townor the best place to go get your vehicle fixed or the best hairstylist in Baton Rouge or

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in Louisiana.
I'm going to go down there, check it out and I'm going to be able to say, guess what?
I ate that burger.
I got my car fixed there.
You might not be able to tell right now, but I got my hair cut there.
And guess what?
We can believe in it and encourage you to go and patronize those businesses.

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But we're excited about this opportunity to be able to partner with like-minded people andto help them grow their businesses and really ultimately help them to achieve the dreams
that they have.
Yeah, absolutely.
And don't forget to go to lacag.org as well.
And if you are not yet a member of LCAG, you're going to want to join.

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ah You know how much work LCAG did this session.
You know the relentless and very fervent work of Chris and Katie.
It's absolutely imperative to support LCAG, support the work and continue the drum beat offreedom in the state.
Yeah, because we are, it's really uh David and Goliath, but David is getting stronger.

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David is getting stronger every day and we are leveling the balance, leveling the playingfield against a lot of corrupt special interest groups.
Danielle, you know, we don't take any donations, don't accept any support from any specialinterest groups.
It's only ordinary Louisiana citizens across the state.
$22 a month, $15 a month, $50, whatever it is that you're able to do comfortably on aregular basis.

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Every dime helps because it's coming from citizens across Louisiana and we are going toclean that legislature out.
We're going to continue to hold them accountable for what they do and don't do.
There is a new sheriff in town and all of the potential criminals are aware that we'rehere.
Yeah, and Chris, but just before we go, I want to give a shout out to John in the chat.

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John, I got to meet John a couple of weeks ago.
Good to see you here, John.
Thanks for joining us.
He asks, how can we break through this echo chamber for election systems that many ofthese guys ah that they live in?
And the answer to that is I'm not exactly sure, except one thing you know for sure is thatif you talk to your state rep about it, if you talk to your state senator about it and

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they uh
They act like you are crazy.
They act like you um don't know what you're talking about.
That means they have disdain for the voice of the people that they are supposed torepresent.
at some point, we just know where they stand.
this is the $50 million question, the $500 million question.

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How do we break through that echo chamber?
I don't know.
Other than keeping up the drum beat continually.
hammering them on social media, especially with posts like we've been trying to do withregard to what the president and his team, who have the full backing and mandate of the
American public, are saying about these issues.

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Do you have any ideas, Chris?
Well, I'm to the point now, Danielle, where um I believe they are so invested, the peoplethat John is talking about are so invested in a certain narrative ah that we have the
safest voting system, our voting system is safe and secure.

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You know, the Nancy Landry narrative, that it's very difficult psychologically ah to pullaway from that.
and to admit that you were wrong and to move in a different direction.
There's great resistance both institutionally and individually to change, even when youknow or certainly should know that the position that you've held and the narrative that

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you've been pushing is simply not right.
ah At that point, many people simply double down even more because they don't want to,they become even more intractable because they don't want to admit that they've been
wrong.
So at that point, the only thing we can do is continue to educate the public and continueto try to hold them accountable for the these officials accountable for doing the wrong

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thing.
But I think the key is, as you said, Danielle, continue to educate on social media,continue to educate on our on our podcast and through the CAG.
I can't wait when David David Clements comes back on.
I'm sure he'll have some other important news about election integrity.
uh But
At this point, Danielle, it is not a matter of the people who are on the other side ofthis issue.

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The ones John talked about the echo chamber.
They are not over there because they have a sincere belief anymore that they are right.
They are over there because they simply refuse to acknowledge the truth at this point,because the evidence is there.
The information is out there.
It's everywhere.
They simply do not want to acknowledge it.

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And if that's the case, they're going to be people who they're not going to go quietlyinto that dark night.
I promise you, they're going to have to be beaten, not persuaded at this point.
That's right.
And a couple ways you can take action, because you know we love action on the state offreedom.
Chris Dizlacag still have a call to action up on the Action Center about stopping thepurchase of the machines going to Nancy Landry.

(01:08:30):
up.
um I'm not sure if it's active, I will.
will reactivate that as soon as we the shows over here today.
Absolutely.
Yeah, and also we the People Buy You community, um if you go to our website, which isWTPBuyYou.org and go to that take action button, you can send an email to uh Governor

(01:08:51):
Landry and to Secretary of State Landry saying that the pursuit of these, the purchase ofthese machines is uh not based in reality and they need to move to a different idea.
Also,
We the People Buy You community is doing a letter uh writing campaign.
We have the letters and we are providing the stamps.

(01:09:15):
And all we're asking is for people who are in agreement with our position to sign them anduh to put their return address on the envelope.
So if you are interested, you're in the Terrebonne-Lafourche area, St.
Mary area.
keep an eye out um on We the People, Buy You Community social media.
We have some opportunities to get involved with that coming up.

(01:09:39):
I think we will just be continuing the push, Chris.
I think there are other ways that LeCag will be promoting this uh idea that the machinepurchases have to be stopped.
ah We will also, I think, be seeking President Trump's intervention because
question.

(01:10:00):
We believe that, you know, obviously if he comes down to Louisiana or directs somethingfrom the White House that could stop the purchase of these machines, that would go a long,
long, long way.
My understanding, Danielle, is that is presently being done, that there is a channel ofcommunication with President Trump as we speak, and that he is really not being fooled by

(01:10:25):
any of this.
And I think he is way too smart not to understand what's going on here.
And I think he's got, I think he has an eye on all of it.
Yeah, I agree.
Well, I think that rounds us out for today.
Join us again on Thursday, if you would.
Just a reminder, we're live every Tuesday and Thursday at 10 a.m.

(01:10:45):
Central Time on pretty much, well, the main platforms where we're live on Rumble, YouTubeand X and also Facebook.
And I think you can catch us on the LeCag Facebook page as well.
We go live in both places, State of Freedom and LeCag Facebooks.
So please join us on Thursday.
We will have Senator Valerie Hodges here to do kind of an action after action report on uhsome of the legislation that she uh tried to bring forward.

(01:11:14):
Some she was successful with, some she was pretty surprised to see the resistance that shegot.
So anyway, we'll get a great.
to Senator Hodges about her experience in Comrade Miller's committee.
I can't wait.
likewise, likewise.
But thank you all again for joining us and we look forward to talking to you on Thursday.

(01:11:36):
God bless.
God bless y'all.
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