#328 Conflict in the Skies and the Future of Our Ballot w/ Juan O Savin

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Well, today I am joined by a friend of the show.
Juan 07, he is back from some travels and we are going to be getting his insights on thechemtrails geoengineering issue, as well as the latest on election integrity at the

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federal level as we keep fighting that fight here at home.
And we will be digging into the ongoing exposure of deep state corruption as well.
I'm sure we'll touch on that if we have time and let me, so Juan is joining by phone todaycause he is a man in motion.
Welcome to the show, Juan.
Hey, we were, we were, I'm in the vehicle driving.

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uh, as I was going along, there was four protesters on the overpass on a bridge that wejust went under and they had signs, uh, tax the rich and, uh, say yes to socialism.
Okay.
So I said, okay, we got to go back and get a picture of that.
And so we're headed back to get a picture.

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They only protested probably for who knows a few minutes or something.
had their little seats with all.
um I just wonder if, you know, if George Soros is actually getting his money worth, did hepay him for an all day protest or was it, you know, half an hour or are they roving
protesters?

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They protest for 15 minutes here, change locations, make it look like there's more of themthan there are.
It's a solid question.
the truth is...
We know that they're not showing up for real work today.
Oh, yeah.
I was looking at them just thinking, oh my gosh.
I and there's four of them on the freeway overpass.

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I don't know that there are all these people are headed for work in the morning.
You know, that's the rich.
I bet you about 99.9999 % of the people that drove under that were like,
Are you out of your mind?
it's so crazy.
Well, Juan, before we get into it, let me read the scripture of the day.

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It's 1 John 1 verses 5 through 10, and this is what it says, This is the life-givingmessage we heard him share, and it's still ringing in our ears.
Now we repeat his words to you.
God is pure light.
You will never even find a trace of darkness in him.
If we claim that we share life with Him but keep walking in the realm of darkness, we'refooling ourselves and not living the truth.

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But if we keep living in the pure light that surrounds Him, we share unbroken fellowshipwith one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, continually cleanses us from all sin.
If we boast that we have no sin, we're only fooling ourselves, and we're strangers to thetruth.
But if we freely admit our sins when His light uncovers them,

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He will be faithful to forgive us every time.
God is just to forgive our sins because of Christ, and He will continue to cleanse us fromall unrighteousness.
If we claim that we're not guilty of sin when God uncovers it with His light, we make Hima liar and His word is not in us.
And so my message to us today is pretty simple.

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Let's be people who are quick to admit our faults, our failures, our guilt and sin, justlike we teach children.
Let's admit it, whatever it is, just ask for forgiveness and we can move on.
Let's not be ones who are diminishing the name of King Jesus because of our pride.
Let's be ones who come clean quickly and run right back into his life.

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Beautiful.
How are you doing, Juan?
Well, I actually know why yesterday that exact scripture was on my mind, no shadow ofdarkness.
ah
and not even the tiniest sliver, the perfection of God Himself.
ah it's, you know, for us to be able to actually truly even contemplate it, perfectionwithout any fault.

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You know, how many people, they're almost judging God.
Why doesn't God do this?
Why doesn't God do that?
Why has He allowed this or something else to happen?
Yeah.
ah So they're going to put themselves in judgment of God.
You'll see people that some tragedy of some type has occurred in their life or theirfamily's life.

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And ah then they, you know, they're questioning God's will, God's way.
ah How much of it was something where we had some control and it was actually ourauthority that He gave us that we weren't exercising.
But are you going to find fault?
with God.
And if you're starting there, you're already off base.

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So you kind of have to do a reset.
ah God knows exactly what's the time.
questioning, why isn't God doing something soon enough, fast enough?
ah Somehow ah you're already off base before you even got started.

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So we start with His perfection and look for it to be worked out in our life, our world,given permission to move on our behalf in the world according to His will.
That's so well said.
some tools of it.

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We want to be tools in His hand, ready and available.
And we want God's will, Christ Himself in the midst of His crucifixion.
thy will be done.
Okay.
So, uh, out there in the garden at Gethsemane, uh knowing full well what was going tohappen and where he was going all the way to Jerusalem, by the way, from the Mount of

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Transfiguration, every step of the way, knowing he was going to his crucifixion.
Yeah.
So, God's will be done.
Thy will be done.
That will be done.
It's so interesting that you say that because that's been something that I feel like theLord has been talking to me about that if there's something in my life that is not

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aligning with the truth of His word, like His promises, then He's not the problem.
Hey God, I just want to you know.
You're not the problem here.
understand that.
You're off the hook.
I get it.
I'm just going to, you know what?
You don't have to worry about it today.

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I'm not going to get mad at you.
You're off the hook.
You're not the problem.
Yeah.
It's not him.
It's me.
Oh my God.
I'm sure he feels better already.
Yeah, he does.
He does.
Well, I think he's having a great time right now.
I feel like he's probably having a really great time right now because it's an amazingtime in history.

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There's so much that I wanted to get in get your perspective on well, let me just add thisIt'll sound a bit over-the-top I'm sure but it is really really true ah I Remember
conversations.
I mean with with really You know uh people that were pretty

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deep invested, involved politically and in the business world.
When I was in my early teens and listening intently to everything they were saying, whatwas going wrong, what was going off track, and that there was no real hope to pull it in.

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And I remember one gentleman said, we won't get it fixed in our lifetime, it's going to beup to you.
to fix this because it won't get done in my lifetime.
And, um you know, that kind of stuck with me because he was a real, for real player and hesolved all these problems and crises.

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you know, here we are.
And the reality is that we actually have a for real shot at going in and doing someserious damage to the
the deep state players, the ones that have been, you know, really engineering the collapseof society.
These narrow spirited people that want to tear it all down, blow it all up so they canrebuild it in their own image.

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know, these are the people that want this one world operation and there are multiple clubsdoing that.
People think it is just maybe one group.
And the reality is, whether you're talking the Davos crowd, the...
uh

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Mason crowd, the devil himself coming to, know, the whole earth is under one person, the13 bloodline families.
ah All of them have similar goals.
Even if you look at the Georgia Guidestones, what that's about is only having a half abillion people left, but it's their people because they've destroyed the whole world down

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to a half a billion and then they can re-engineer it their way.
One of the things that's known very widely at all, we look at China.
China in the last 2000 years, uh three times has brought their population down by 90%.

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That's where people who were in control literally killed everybody that wasn't them andthen had to uh start back.
Why?
Because they wanted to
purge out all the people that, ah you know, from other bloodlines, etc., to get a pure umland of just their people.

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that's a pretty scary thought.
That mindset still exists.
And we are coming against that as Christians, as believers.
know, think of all the groups that
with the green movement on, we're destroying the earth.
And so the earth, in the Georgia guys' sense, the carrying capacity of the according tothem, is a half a billion.

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Okay, so they're going to get it down to half a billion, then just hold right there tohalf a billion.
um You know, the reality is that's not scriptural.
The scriptural perspective is go fill the earth.
And I've heard even preachers say, well, the earth's full.
Actually not.

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worth about eight billion.
remember somebody had done a very scientific study and said that the carrying capacity ofearth was 50 billion.
But the reality was technology.
It's not even about the earth itself.
uh The Abrahamic covenant is that uh Abraham's children,

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would be as the sand of the sea for number.
Okay, we haven't even done one beach yet.
That's right.
And then we're just a beach head in divine perspective.
But then also as the stars in the heaven, well, there is a, there's layers ofunderstanding that that's the physical and the spiritual.
But I believe it also is that when we're growing out from where we are right now, that Godintends us to go out.

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and fill not just the earth, but the solar system around us and beyond that, other systemsbeyond that, that we are to continue to grow, you know, as far as we, minds can even
understand and accept.
And that's a physical promise, by the way.

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you think Elon is working toward fulfilling a biblical mandate?
by inhabiting Mars and saying that we need mankind.
Yeah.
Cool.
Well, even here in low Earth orbit, our sustaining capacity here, we have plenty ofmaterials in the way that we can expand things out.

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You could literally have in the space just above the Earth hundreds and hundreds ofbillions, not millions.
billions of people and it wouldn't actually get that crowded because there's a lot ofspace out there before you even get to the moon and Mars and other places.

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and ah in fact, I've done quite a bit of ah work in the background in that kind of anarea.
And uh it is just a stunning thought when you think it out of what that might look like,how that might work.
You might want to come home to the earth for weekend vacation, but it would be too dirty,the air is too heavy with moisture compared to what your nice controlled environment is on

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your platform in space.
Huh.
Well, on kind of a topic of the atmosphere, I have been wanting to hear your perspectiveon...
chemtrails and geoengineering for a while now.
I we were supposed to get into that the last time we had you on, but we just ran out oftime.
ah So if you wouldn't mind, because I think you're, if I'm not mistaken, your perspectiveruns a little counter to a lot of people who, ah who are out there fighting against it.

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Well, I want to qualify it a little bit.
We don't want.
the air.
We don't want this material in the air.
mean, I don't want to breathe it.
don't.
None of us should be breathing it.
It's not ideal in a perfect world.

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The other side of the coin is that there's a reason why the primary stuff that people areseeing sprayed there is aluminum oxide.
Oh, aluminum oxide.
I don't want anything aluminum.
Okay, well I get that.
What is aluminum oxide?
It's the same material that you use on the sandpaper, know, glue to sandpaper so can sandyour car, sand your house, the wood, whatever.

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um It's beach sand.
And uh so it's dust.
um If you get the right kind of storms in the desert, different parts of the world, itcan...
carried all over the world just off the desert sands.
uh We get a lot of the dust from uh deserts and other parts of the world in the atmosphereand it goes around the world a couple of times before it settles back down, you know, just

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from huge dust storms.
So it's not like we don't get exposed to this naturally from time to time.
And in fact, uh I remember uh a very large lawsuit, it a successful lawsuit.
uh
there was a particular company that had what they call a lay down lot for their containersfrom huge container ships.

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And ah one of the people that lived by this location where they had housing there in thearea complained that the dust caused their lung cancer.
you know, they went and looked at it.
I remember
At first when I heard it, thought, well, that's so extinct.

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And I happened to be in the area with somebody who was pointing this out that knew allabout the suit.
And we looked over, and just happened to be a nice afternoon.
And we looked over, and you could see this haze in that area over really a mile or twoarea around this large hundreds of acres lot.

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There's rail lines with the railroad going through it.
the ships coming in and loading containers and everything.
And um even though most of it was paved, um there's dust on everything.
You could see the dust in the air.
was like, my gosh, you're right.
ah And you're breathing that.

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And it wasn't just obviously probably the main dust.
I figured, well, there's a lot of oh smoke, maybe ships being there from all the vehiclesand everything else.
And he pointed out, no.
and vehicles that are running around now.
This is after they lost the loss.
They went to electric vehicles to be pushing everything around or propane vehicles so thatthey weren't putting out uh diesel exhaust or gas exhausts.

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It still had that there.
It's just from all the activity.
um So you can have environmental stuff that could easily be not good for you in a similarmanner.
uh
I we're all kind of aware that that stuff is out there.
But what they're doing, and there's some spraying that's ultimately very rare, that isother materials.

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But the primary spraying that people are aware of and are looking at, understanding, isthe stuff that's being sprayed up there at 44,000 feet.
you can tell the difference between a normal condensation trail or contrail from anaircraft, from a spray trail, by how long it lingers and how dispersed it gets.

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So when you have a normal condensation trail, I'm actually looking at a non-normal one ina second.
uh When you have a normal one, after about five minutes,
10 minutes really almost tops.
You'll notice that the trails dissipated out and stays fairly narrow and dissipates behindthe aircraft and usually if it's an honest one in normal times it's gone in you know three

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four minutes for the most part it's almost completely gone.
Yeah.
And what that is is that uh it's moisture
up at that altitude, know, the altitude where this is going on is up there, you know,44,000 feet there spraying this stuff out.
Well, that...

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that moisture, ah you know, it's in the air, it's very thin, the air is very thin upthere, you can't just breathe it readily, it's so thin.
ah If you tried to breathe, you'd suffocate that altitude.

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My wife just gave me a little water to keep my throat clean.
so, you know, about the height that you can go without any oxygen in small aircraft, go upto 14,000 feet, we have to the oxygen on.
If you're a pilot, you can get up there around 20 and you'll be pretty lightheaded.

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And if you're there too long, you'll start to get a little punchy.
Beyond that,
It's only a few minutes and you're not coherent.
As you get 30 and like that, 44,000 feet, you're out.

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But because the aircraft is going so fast through the air, there's a pressure wave infront of the wing.
It condenses the air.
It's like pushing it all together, condenses it.
And then after it's condensed,
and it goes back into vacuum on the trailing edge of the wing and behind the aircraft.

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ah It's going back to vacuum.
And so the little bit of moisture that's been pushed all together scatters back out and inthe sunlight ah with a little bit of heat like that and it goes back to vapor just like
steam.
ah

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you goes into the rest of the air.
How far do you see the steam after it leaves the pot when you're boiling something?
Just a short distance.
And then what moisture is suddenly condensed into a steam goes back into a suspension airdisappears.
So that's a condensation or contrail and done naturally.

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And you can get a contrail down at lower altitudes.
you'll see like you go watching the air performances of the blue angels or thethunderbirds.
You'll see moisture condensing around the wing tips and some of the actual performancesthey do are designed to hit the air in such a way that you'll see condensation coming off

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the wing tips and it's a pretty cool effect and the Coriolis vapor trail behind it.
um
doing something similar at lower altitudes.
You can do it at different altitudes.
can do it at great, great, altitude and get a compensation trail.
Now, with that in mind, there's also ah the spray project.

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So what's the purpose of spraying at these various altitudes?
When, and let me just give a little bit of the history before this.
In the
mid and late 70s.
Russia was messing with America.
We're in the middle of the Cold War.

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And they had figured out in the late 60s, early 70s, that they did certain things withbroadcasting certain types of frequencies, radio frequencies, radar frequencies, all sorts
of things, essentially energy.
that they could push an energy wave up towards the jet stream.

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And the jet stream, is like a river in the sky above us where there's certain paths thatthe moisture follows, sometimes at very high speed.
I remember doing a trip, I can't remember what it was from or to Hawaii, I think it wascoming back from Hawaii, and we hit a jet stream.

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It was unusual.
And it was a very high speed jet stream.
And so a trip that was supposed to take like five hours took like, I think it was likethree hours and 50 minutes or something.
And the pilot said that was the fastest trip he had ever done on that route.

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And it was because of this extremely rapid jet stream that was pushing us along.
The other side of the coin would have been if you were going against it, you'd have usedmassive fuel and would have taken quite a bit longer because the plane only knows its
speed through the air, not what its speed is to the ground.

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The airframe was pushing against a river of water, like going up the street in a river.
And it's like when I have the boat out, if I have the luxury of time,
I'll go with the tide.
And so, you know, if I'm in an inland waterway or something, if the tide is coming in,well, you had six hours of the tide coming in.

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If I'm going out, I'm going against the jet stream the whole way, I mean, the current.
And I'm going to use a bunch more fuel because sometimes that speed is, you know, three,four knots.
If I, or higher, if I,
pick the time of day so I'm going with the tide going in.

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Consumption goes down rapidly.
When you're 20 gallons an hour of fuel and it's costing you five bucks a gallon, if youcut that consumption down by 25%, that's a significant savings.
picking the time of day so you can go with the...

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stream is a great idea.
So then there's currents of airflow up at altitude moving across the face of the earth.
In the US, the airflow west to east, and so it's coming off the Pacific Ocean going allthe way across to the Atlantic Ocean.

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Um, what was going on with Russia in the late sixties, early seventies was they weresending out a, um, broadcasting energy at a frequency that was pushing the jet stream,
which is, you know, uh, made up of moisture, uh, this, this, uh, moist area of theatmosphere up high.

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30,000 feet up, 40,000 feet up, pushing it further south from these huge radar arrays upat the northern edge of the Soviet Union that were looking for our bombers coming over up
at what we call the do line, which is an area where we're detecting and looking forRussian aircraft coming to America on a bombing run during the

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Cold War or something.
And so if you think about it, they're far away from the United States, even though at theclosest up there, we're only like, you know, less than 10 miles apart from the Russian
border, from the US border up in Alaska.
Still, um what was going on is that these huge radar rays were hitting the jet stream veryearly.

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and its flow around the Earth and deflecting it.
so like deflecting an arrow right as it leaves the bowl, if you only deflected amillimeter or two by the time it hits the target 50, 60 yards away, it can be off by a
couple feet.

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So as the jet stream was flowing across up there at the Arctic region.
They were pushing it and deflecting it way off course with this radio frequency, pushingit, oh what we call standing waves.

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And so it would be like if I'm shooting water out of a hose, I take another hose beside itand turn it on the water coming out of the hose, it's dense and I can push that water
stream out.
I could do it with just air.
fast enough, dense enough moving air to deflect it and make it go off, you know, kilter.

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That's exactly what they were doing.
And what the problem was, it's not just in two dimensions.
When they were pushing that arc extreme off course, they were also moving it in altitude.
And so you have super cold air, it says at 44,000 feet where they're doing the spraying.

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It's about 65 to 68 degrees average, most anywhere in the world that you go.
So it's very cold, water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit.
And you're now 90 degrees difference.

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And so it's very, very, very, very cold.
when one of the aircraft had a failure on a small aircraft of a valve that was there torelease pressure in the aircraft.
A very famous golfer of the flight crew in the small jet, it caused very cold air to comeinto the jet almost instantaneously while depressurizing.

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And it was said that they had about
15 seconds to have reacted ah or they would already be yet to that being frozen.
Wow.
And so this aircraft, they froze inside the aircraft ah within just a few, you know,probably under a minute were extremely cold and their consciousness plus depressurizing

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the combination, the deep
depressurization altitude that happened that fast.
They only had a few seconds of consciousness.
But then the freezing, you know, was so relatively quick that they just didn't have muchof a hope.
you know, within just a minute or two, they were frozen solid like block ice and thepeople in the back of the aircraft too.

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And that one crashed out in Midwest.
I of want to find the rent out of fuel, we sent aircraft up to look at it, see what wasgoing on, but they knew pretty much what had occurred when they got close to it.
oh
What the Russians were doing was pushing that super chill air, not only south from furthernorth on the globe, but also down to lower altitudes.

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Do you think that's where they got the idea for global cooling back in?
Was that about the same time they started talking about global cooling?
Well, that's an interesting thought.
I'd never thought about it exactly that way.
But yes, in the 60s, they spent a lot of time and money trying to push the idea that theworld was cooling.

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So you can go back and look at Time and Newsweek and all the insider stuff, and includingyou can look at The Economist.
the Rothschild's publication and uh CFR papers and reports, Council on Foreign Relationsand all these other ones.

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And they're all talking about the fact that with global cooling, ah know, the world'sgoing to go back into an ice age.
And that was when the first talk about nuclear weapons causing global cooling, puttingdust in the air and then blocking out sunlight, cooling the earth.
And that was the big threat to the plan that we're going to get bombed back to the IceAge.

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And we're talking Stone Age in those days, it was going to be Ice Age.
And uh so I don't know that I ever tied that specifically with what the Russians weredoing.
In fact, I would doubt it because almost nobody, even coming up on the Reaganadministration, I don't think anybody publicly

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really latched onto it until we got to SDI.
And during the SDI Strategic Defense Initiative period, we then talked about thequestions, are the Russians messing with our weather?
And that was done intentionally so that people understood what the threat was.

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But nobody ever was really, you know, there was a few papers that were published on it.
But for the most part, we weren't really
ah pushing it ah politically or publicly that hard.
We're in the middle of the Cold War.
It was done speculatively.

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We were more concerned with the particle beam weapons and the tests that were being done,being able to propel something the size smaller than a grain of sand.
The weight of the powder, the talcum powder jar even lighter, the smaller that.
move it at speed of light, just under the speed of light, like a laser effect, but it'slittle particles, little bullets being fired that could literally pass through.

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skin of a spacecraft like it was butter and knock out all the electronics, destroy a spacevehicle that way.
The particle beam testing that Russia was doing up on the north side of the Caspian Sea,north of Iran, was actually outstanding work and they were way ahead of us on particle
beam weapons.

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But they were doing particle beam, we were looking at light weapons, and so we haddetermined by that point in time that
do more with light and be just as effective or more effective than we could with light.
particulates and by doing it in the light spectrum we would have more effect down thesurface also in the atmosphere.

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with energy weapons which are now very common.
So but the super short thing I know I'm kind of plodding along but if you don't have thesedetails you can't understand this discussion so those are following I'm just trying to
give you enough
material so you can make an honest understanding or equation of what I'm putting outthere.

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In the uh stuff that the Russians were doing, as you got further into the 70s, it becamemuch more serious because ah they were destroying winter crops, winter wheat that needs
snow for cover and certain temperatures.

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We had winter wheat crops failing.
had oranges in Florida and California, orange groves that had been around for, you know,100 years that were frozen and killed by these late freezes and was messing with our

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economy.
And, you know, you go after the bread basket with wheat and
orange shoes, things like that.
And they were getting better and better at it.
It was becoming a much more serious threat.
uh Where it could do things more seasonally, and as they got better at moving the jetstream and leveraging the position of the jet stream, both by uh latitude uh pushing

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itself from Canada down into Florida.
uh
causing bigger storms and as they got better at moving the moisture, the threat was thatyou could really begin to oh cause turmoil in America uh in the weather spectrum that

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would kill huge numbers of people and destroy the economy.
ah coming into the Reagan administration and President Reagan was briefed by the
uh...
intelligence agency people about these concerns or what we've detected where they're atyou know that's when reagan's coming out calling a people empire and all sorts of things

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but they have become a very real uh...
to not just america but the rest of the world because if they could work for example evenwith china or other countries came up with these technologies it could be very serious we
had a guy
that was doing a lower tech version of this out over uh Minnesota that had figured out howhe could take huge home type um antennas used for television reception and electrify them

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in a certain way and he put them out in a grid around his house.
And then he had about a hundred car batteries.
and he was putting out a direct current standing wave.
And he could change the orientation of these antennas.

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And he was able to create a little um spot over his little farm, which was hopefully likefive acres.
where he could make it rain when there's no other rain in the rest of the area.
He could send a standing wave out a certain way and you'd end up with clouds over hishouse, you know, in that few mile area.

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And then the other way around is it could be cloudy, rainy, everything else.
And he could create a spot where there wasn't
the rain coming down, like throwing a rock in the stream or moving a rock in the stream.
Cause of course the air has got a particular path of travel.
aimed the, these antennas at or oh away from his house and deflect that moisture comingin.

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So imagine that he was able to the weather in his local little location with car batteriesand
TV antennas, quite a few, but he figured it out.
ah And so he got a visit and he got a little bit of an explanation and he had to stopthat.

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But what led to it wasn't just what was going on with him.
He'd shown other people this simple technology.
And so he was building them for other people.
And there was people down on the coast of Florida and ah
North of there who had put these in and were In the opinion of the scientists involveddeflecting Hurricanes from hitting the coast right at their location Well, the problem is

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is that that sounds fantastic.
But when you keep a hurricane off the coast ah It continues to develop uh energyoftentimes and so when it first became a thing
to go deal with this problem.
was right after there was a huge storm that hit up at Virginia Beach.

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And in reassessing this, I remember at the time, the guy that looked at it in the monthsafterwards said, no, that was that bad because that particular person had done what he had
done or that group of people.
And I think if I recall, there was about a dozen people that had

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And our guys on the ground had no idea how that happened at time.
It was just a shock.
When ah somebody figured out there was a person and talked to them in central Florida, andthey were all communicating with other people, and they all said, well, this is the guy
here in Michigan that had the tech, and they gave him a visit.

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Everything got dismantled, and nobody ever did that again.
Is this scalar technology?
No, this stuff there wouldn't pass into the scalars.
Scalars are actually much more complex in advance.
These were just simple standing waves.
But it's good question.
um So then we know that we can affect weather.

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We know we can affect it in huge, huge areas.
The Russians had proven that.
In fact, in that window, if you go back and look at the records, I it was 79.
but I'd have to look and see.
We had the highest snowfall ever recorded anywhere on planet Earth at Mount Rainier up inWashington.

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And it was like, I think it was 1100 inches or just shy of that, of snowfall.
And it was directly related to this activity by Russia, the Soviet Union specifically inthose days, to uh manage weather control.
against the United States.

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And so as the Reagan administration came into office, they screamed bloody murder behindthe scenes and we're not going to let you get away with this and blah, blah.
And it was like, we're so innocent.
We have to be able to detect your bombers.
And this is our technology to watch for you coming after us with your bombers.
So, you know, stick it where the sun don't shine.

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uh
Reagan had asked behind the scenes for a response, a way to defend against it.
And then a couple of years into his administration, ah Edward Teller famously had briefeduh Reagan.
And then we were going after the Soviet Union in multiple ways.

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We started with running oil prices down to the ground so they couldn't sell their oil orgas.
and break their economy by stopping Western money from coming in to support their economy.
We did it with the moral um challenges with the Pope and everybody in the religious realm,the severe treatment of Pentecostals and Jews in Russia.

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Um, we, we went after Russia for the way they treated their own population of the moralbasis or whether or not they should be able to operate as a country over their people
because they were not of the people, by the people, for the people type thing.
Okay.
We went after them because they had wars going on Afghanistan and in central America.

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And so we've sifted in.
defensive materials for the people in those locations to help them fight back.
uh But we did the economic stuff.
a little bit later after Reykjavik when Gorbachev backed out of a missile uh deal, nucleartreaty on intermediate range missiles.

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But
We also went after them with SDI, Strategic Defense Initiative, and the goal at the timewas to come up with a version of what now we call an iron dome over Israel, things like
that, where we could take out missiles as they were in the launch phase, leaving theearth, going up to space, flying across the world, and then coming down and re-entering

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into the US, if you will.
And so we wanted to go after the missiles in three separate zones, launch and then coast.
So they use all their fuel up to get up to altitude, get up to 15,000 miles an hour, raceacross over the earth.

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And then when they're coasting after the fuels run out, going across the earth, that's thecoast phase.
And then as they would re-enter in these intercontinental ballistic missiles.
the descent phase and where they could merv into multiple smaller missiles and they breakup into eight, 10, 20 pieces, whatever, and come down as multiple missiles going for

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different targets.
And the SDI one is using particulates to do that?
No, particle beam weapons was something that Soviets were getting pretty good at.
We had decided that we wouldn't do that because, I mean, while we did tests like that,essentially what they were doing was accelerating these particles up to, you know,

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hopefully near the speed of light or very, very fast.
They never got anywhere close to that.
You know, they get to...
you know, 10th of the speed of light, but they still they're perceptively to most peoplethat are moving so fast, hundreds of thousands of miles an hour.

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And speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.
So it goes around the earth about seven times in a second.
That's how fast light moves.
25,000 miles around the Earth, seven and a half seconds.
I mean, seven and a half times around the Earth in one second at the equator.

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So the deal is that, and they weren't even a fraction of that, the deal is that thoseparticles are moving at very high speed, and when they hit something, even though they're
light, small, they're moving so fast, it has so much kinetic energy.
I'll give you an idea.
If you throw a baseball at 100 miles an hour, let's say it contains one X of energy, somuch energy as well.

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If I throw it 200 miles an hour, does it contain two X?
No.
It takes four times the energy to double the speed essentially.
uh
So it becomes huge, very fast to go much, much, much, much faster.

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You have to way more power, if you will.
As you accelerate something, forget doing it with a baseball, think of a grain of sand.
And it's one thing to fire it out of a gun at a certain speed, say a bullet.
uh But as you get to doubling that, doubling that, doubling that on the speed.

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the amount of energy that you have to have to project at extreme high speed is surprisedlike a small nuclear explosion.
so doing that with particles is really difficult.
Doing it with light is um different.

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And so that's why we have these directed energy weapons.
And that's the technology behind the Strategic Defense Initiative, is the light weapon?
It is.
Well, the Strategic Defense Initiative was multiple things.
So we challenged Russia on all different types of technology, oh missile technology.

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For example, part of the outcome of SDI, you know, if
Because Reagan was going to give it to everybody, it was the whole idea to defendthemselves anywhere they were at against intercontinental ballistic missiles.
And when we get through talking about contrails or condensation trails or materials thatthey're putting out there, it'll be clear.

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if you put something like that out, how do you then go attack the other guys if you madeit possible for everybody to defend against the...
intercontinental ballistic missiles.
Well that's why we
Because the things that we got very good at in space, where these missiles are in thecoast phase, where we can take out missiles coming across the planet like that, and

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descending, we went to what's called hypersonic missiles.
So instead of going out to space, ah and it's like a bullet, after the bullet leaves thegun and it's headed to the target, if you move the gun, does it change the path of the
bullet?
No.
Once it's left the barrel, it's just dumb.

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It's like an arrow in flight.
It's on its way till it hits the target.
um And so these intercontinental ballistic missiles, you fire them up, they use all theirfuel, and they're in the coast phase until they come to the target.
And the only thing that changes is that we, as it's descending down into the atmosphere,we would MIRV multiple independent vehicles.

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uh or warheads.
And oh each of these little bomblets would go towards different cities and they would havea little bit of fuel juice to change their trajectory to move from the line that they were
on to go to a different line.

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So like have a little bit of rocket fuel.
would, you know, one would head to Sacramento and the other one would head to LA.
Well, as they're coming down into the atmosphere, they're
you know, hundreds of miles from their target.
So a little bit of a burn of fuel changed their orientation, kind of uh a kick.
And now they're headed to a whole different um location than what the missile was headedfor before.

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And so, but just a little bit of fuel at that time as they're descending into theatmosphere.
oh The defense against these space-based weapons technologies.
was decided to be slower technology, but still very fast, what we call hypersonic.

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Instead of going out into space where there's not atmosphere, it's near vacuum, et cetera,you'd move closer to the earth into the high upper atmosphere and be up there anywhere
from
60,000 feet, which is very, very low, know, four miles higher than most airliners travel.

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Down in the 40,000 and below, 38,000, 35,000 few private jets fly up to 45.
Um, but, uh, with vehicles that travel very fast, um, most of the vehicles that we'retalking about are running up there 90 to 120,000 feet and they're, they're what we call

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hypersonic.
So they can move anywhere from on the low, low side, about five, 6,000 miles an hour, uh,which is very fast.
Uh, you know,
Mach 7, 8, 9, 10, 12.

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As you get further higher, the air gets thinner and thinner, they can go a little bitfaster.
But as they're moving, the atmosphere, they're going through it so fast, the nose conejust glows red, turns white, any metals just start to melt.
It's very hard to steer.
The tiniest little nudge

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As you get sideways to the direction of flow, all the control surfaces have to heat uptremendously.
So you can't turn it fast.
uh It takes a long, very slow turn.
Otherwise you get other materials that are sensitive and you'll just burn the aircraft up.
So we have hypersonic missiles.

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The Russians have them, the Chinese have them.
Iran's got them now.
They can move extremely
extremely fast at you know reasonably high altitudes 80 90 100 thousand feet and um Sofast that you can't shoot them down with a bullet They're going you know ten times the

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speed of a bullet from a high-power gun Rifle okay, so the aircraft you would send up theycan't even put you know bullets on them.
It'll do it and even a missile
off the aircraft has to catch up, find that location, intercept it.

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It's like a bullet trying to hit a bullet.
oh The timing is so critical and you can't change the speeds too readily.
So trying to intercept something that's moving at hypersonic speeds is extremelydifficult.
And if you're trying to catch up to it, if it's going just

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For the sake of example, if it's going only relatively slow at Mach 6, that's faster thanany of our fighter aircraft go.
Most of them can go about Mach 2 to Mach 2.5.
We got a few of them that can go faster now, but they can't go very far on that speed.

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As you move further up into these unmanned vehicles,
and they've got these higher speeds.
The problem is if you're say moving at Mach 6 and they're up there moving at Mach 8 or 10,you can't catch up to them.
If you get up there before they get there, you have to get close to them, intercept themand then hit them uh or explode in extremely close proximity before them.

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So they have to fly into a debris trail or something like that.
the other problem is this, as you get these hypersonic missiles, they're under power allthe way to the target.
They're literally under power.
Remember I said that the intercontinental ballistic missiles, they use their fuel up andthen they coast across the edge of space and then come back down into the target, coasting

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in.
If they MIRV break up and the other ones, got a little bit of fuel for the
these little pieces to change trajectories and then head to their independent targets, butit's not much fuel.
Because they're just changing their orientation, getting a bump, and then they're justcoasting the target beyond that.

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And by the way, they're decelerating all the way because they're in the atmosphere andthey're getting slower and slower and slower.
So by the time they get down near the ground, they're only moving, you know,
1500 miles an hour even less in some cases going all the way down the surface so Now ifyou come back to a hypersonic missile It's very hard to catch and defeat it You're in the

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edge of the atmosphere and so it can fly Yeah, if you're out in space and you have a tailand wing surfaces, they don't mean anything because there's no way there
of any significance, extremely, just a few molecules hanging out there.
Even at super high speed, you can't really do anything.

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It's not going to change the direction.
As you get lower and lower and lower, just think of you're coming through fluid.
The atmosphere is just a vapor fluid.
As you get to the ocean, it's a liquid fluid.
Run around a boat or the engine on your boat you turn sideways one way or the other itturns very hard in that dense water When you're moving super super fast

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up there at Mach 8, 10, 12, in the lower atmosphere, you can steer by using, you know,control surfaces.
And then it's still being propelled, pushed through the air with some type of propulsionall the way to wherever you're go hit.

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And so now you have the ability to steer.
Well, if I hit...
If I try to hit it with a particle beam, two problems.
It's got to go through the atmosphere and that particle you're firing that's great out inspace and the atmosphere just burns up.
Because it's hitting interference.

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It heats up and it melts and it's gone and it stops killing it.
Out in space, the particle could go from the earth to the moon and not hit anything and berelatively intact.
you get down the atmosphere, you fire it, and it's going through that relatively densematerial.
just melts.

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So a particle becomes great in space, lousy in the atmosphere.
If you have a laser weapon, you can work in the atmosphere more effectively.
And a light weapon, think of a kid with a magnifying glass, and you get the point justright on it from the sun.
and you can burn up ants, right?

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That's simple explanation because you have different types of light, energy, the way thatit's carried and refracted, etc.
A lot goes into this.
It's not simple, but you can do it and it's moving what?
Seven and half times around the earth a second.

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You hit a target.
something moving at Mach 10 or Mach 12, it's like it's barely moving.
It's just barely moving at the time it takes for that light to reach it.
And it's like it's in slow motion.
So it's easy to hit a chemically powered vehicle with oh something that is oh moving atspeed of light.

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Very easy to those targets.
Relatively, can have technology that can anticipate where it's at.
within a few inches of where it's trying to hit all the time, even with refraction throughthe atmosphere.
Refraction is kind of reflection.
You have moisture in the air like that.
So when you try to use a laser weapon, especially from the surface of the earth, where theair is denser, it kind of refracts or bends.

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And so you have to anticipate where a target's going to be.
and you'll be a little bit more scattered, you know, have computers that work this stuff.
In fact, instead of trying to just hit one tiny spot, they take a whole field of them andfocus them just like a magnifying glass on one tiny spot.
And you have a little bit of energy from all of them that are there yet within that zonefairly coherent.

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So, uh, cause you look, if you think of the kids with the magnifying glass, it'll be hotas you get closer and closer and closer to that one spot.
You have to help make fine glass closer or further away to get to that pinpoint, dependingon the curve of the glass.
And so um that's essentially a very simplistic way of describing how these energy weaponswork.

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The average person, I hope, can kind of get their mind into a little bit.
m
having the ability to have these.
high speed uh missiles that work right in the atmosphere can be steered to the target.

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That was the answer to SDI Strategic Defense Initiative.
And if somebody was trying to shoot you down, you could steer around where they were atand be very hard to get them because you have the ability to steer with hypersonic.
missiles, can't anticipate where I'm going to be because I'm going to turn just slightly.

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I'm going to go lower, I'm going go higher.
And while you're trying to get your little dot in the magnifying glass right on me, I canfly right around it.
And very hard to track and hit at those speeds, you know, when you're in the hypersoniczone, you're traveling at miles.

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a second, okay, not just a mile a minute.
You can get into a zone where you're traveling at extremely high speed, okay?
And so it's hard to hit a bullet faster than a bullet.
So then what SDI was, as we came into the Reagan administration, what that was all aboutwas that we were coming up both ways

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to anticipate where these missiles were going to be that were coming in our continental tomake it so they couldn't shoot us down, so we could shoot them down or vice versa.
Hypersonic was developed to help defeat some of the strategic defense initiative systems.

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But in this whole zone, the final phase, the most critical stage for defending againstincoming missiles,
was in the upper atmosphere down to the earth.
And upper in this case was up there, you know, 30, 35,000 feet.

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And that's the final phase this missiles will be coming in towards the earth.
And so you got, depending on where they would want to detonate, usually above ground, yougot about five miles to target.
If it's coming straight down there, generally coming in at an angle, so you might havesix, seven, eight miles from that area up where airplanes fly in the 30s, 33,000 foot

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break.
Um, commonly, uh, till it would be in an area where it would explode and destroy a city orhealth facility, cetera.
So the final phase of SDI was, um,
We sprayed talcum powder type weight material, 25 microns, very, very tiny.

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It's even finer than what you see in talcum powder, technically.
Very, very tiny dust up into the atmosphere and in a very specific spot.
We wanted the dust to sit in that zone ah where ozone is made.
ah
And that's where you really start seeing the moisture that we see as the clouds like thatfor the most part beginning to condense.

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And when the sunlight's coming in from the sun, it is radiant uh energy.
ah It's the solar energy.
And as it hits ah water droplets, it breaks them up into uh
an ozone gas and they very quickly repropagate in just a second or so or less.

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But for an instant, that ozone gas becomes uh very reflective and it reflects out some ofthe oh wavelengths of sunlight that would cause you cancer.
So the ozone is a protective layer all across the earth, the membrane, to protect us fromthe direct energy from the sun.

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When the sun's straight overhead at high noon, that is just a very thin layer ofprotection.
That's why we tell people, be careful being out in the sun too much.
ah That solar energy, it can damage cells, which can then become cancerous because they'redamaged.

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As the sun moves is before high noon or after high noon ah at this um apex, ah the angleof attack, it deflects or reflects out some of these more damaging rays and they just go
right back out to space harmlessly.

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So as you, as you get past high noon, um the amount of
damaging radiation from the sun goes down oh pretty dramatically and it's reflected out inthis ozone layer area where uh the sunlight is creating this ozone or protective
reflective area.

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um And ah it's not just that it's reflecting, also is absorbing that energy turning itinto the gas and kind of catching it like a pillow.
ah So that it's in converting that energy signal.

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uh
into the, you know, splitting the molecules into the gas and like that.
So what the reason for all that conversation is, this, when they're spraying dust, talcumpowder type dust, the sandpaper reflective aluminum oxide material, which is, you know,

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sand from the seashore type stuff.
They're spraying it at 44,000 feet.
is kind of the altitude limit for those aircraft that doing the spraying.
And they want them up there as high as they can get them ah as they're spraying and abovewhere most of the airliners are at, by the way.

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And then as the material comes out, what are they using that's not being sprayed in water?
If it was sprayed in water, the water turned to ice the second it came out of theairplane.
You'd have the nozzle spraying it that would be frozen up with ice and you wouldn't beable to get any more of the spray out.

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So they have to use something that has an anti-freeze capability that won't freeze atthose temperatures.
Well, it just so happens that jet fuel carousel.
with the various stabilizers in it that they have, which are kind of some nasty stuff.

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ah But they're not huge percentages.
The kerosene that we use for jet fuel with some additives ah is uh antifreeze.
It has an antifreeze type thing.
All the fuel sitting in the tanks in the airplane at these super cold temperatures

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It doesn't turn to an ice cube.
Okay We can spray it out with this sand like material suspended in it in the slurry and Itgoes out of the aircraft.
What happens with the jet fuel?
Well, you're in a very low vacuum area.
There's not not a lot of air up there At 44,000 feet very very very thin so

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the liquid fuel going out as a mist with the oh particulates, the talcum powder sizedgrains of sand, if you will.
ah Very quickly, the oh kerosene dissipates.

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It goes oh into a vapor state.
uh
ah the sand like particles are carried for a little distance in these droplets as it'sdispersed and then the sunlight breaks down those droplets and the kerosene goes into

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total vapor.
and dissipates away, leaving just those little pieces of sand like dust at thesealtitudes.
Now that whole process, there are 44,000 feet, it goes out as kind of a mistress stream.
And it falls pretty quickly down through altitude-wise.

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So you can picture 44,000 feet, you're about a half mile up.
And a...
And it's going to fall down to where the atmosphere gets heavier and thicker.
And ah down into that ozone area where the moisture is thicker and you're creating ozonebecause there's water vapor there that's starting to get fairly dense.

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As these particles fall down, it's like landing on a feather bed.
And they fall out of the air, the kerosene dissipates away and goes
which by the way, you're already getting kerosene anyway, because all the aircraft are upthere.
The sunlight breaks it down and becomes essentially relatively harmless, really.

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But it's the additives that they add to the jet fuel to help stabilize it and do differentthings.
Some of those are actually pretty nasty and you wouldn't want to...
have them all over your hands or skin and things like that.
It could be very cancerous, but the amount of that material is ultimately fairly thin.

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And as the sunlight is hitting it, the sunlight itself is neutralizing it and taking awaylot of the properties where it just becomes like a salt.
oh so now you have this dust.
that is away from the droplets of the kerosene that has further vaporized and gone away.

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And it hits that upper atmosphere up there, oh you know, six miles up, you know, 34,35,000 feet.
It's still falling because, you know, it's got weight to it, but it's very, verylightweight.
And it's in the jet stream now where the moisture is at.

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and that jet stream is moving anywhere from.
Yesterday when we flew back from Africa, ah I watched the jet stream change in one area.
had a jet stream that we were going against and it was 80 miles an hour.
In another area, the jet stream went down to almost zero.

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And then as we came across the United States, we had a headwind of.
uh
28 miles an hour, most of the trip where I happened to look at it, uh coming fromWashington, D.C.
to Los Angeles.
And so it was a pretty steady 28 to 32 miles an hour of headwind at the angle that we wereat.

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Well, if you're a piece of dust, like a piece of sand, only lighter, essentially a featherin the wind.
and the jet stream is moving at 30 miles an hour, think of a car moving at 30 miles anhour, going from west to east, you're getting carried along with it.

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You're not as much falling out of the atmosphere at that point, you're being pushed like akite.
And so all of those little pieces of material are flying across above the country likelittle teeny kites.
and they're getting hit with the sun's energy during the daytime and heating up andthey'll actually float a little bit higher and they're moving with the stream.

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So even though it doesn't sound like much speed and end up in the jet stream you get upyou know into you know 100 plus miles an hour or even higher at different altitudes down
at those levels generally you know somewhere you know 30, 40, 50, 80 miles an hour.

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And like when we send up weather balloons, we send up weather balloons, we launch them outtowards the West Coast and they go up and they go to 80, 90, 100,000, 110,000 feet.
And they're moving across the whole entire country.
Remember the Chinese had those weather balloons that were coming into the U.S.?

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Well, they'd come all the way from China.
They're up in the jet stream.
The jet stream, they're like a sail in the jet stream, and the jet stream is pushing themacross the country.
They're not getting pushed with fuel.
ah you're weather, part of our problem with China was with those balloons, they werepowered.

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They claimed they weren't.
They were ah using ah hydrogen gas that was in the balloons.
which is very light.
If people could see them, surely weren't in the jet stream anymore.

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Is that fair to say?
Nope, that's not true.
were up there at high altitudes when they were launched from China.
They were up there at 80,000, 90,000 feet ah in a high altitude jet stream.
When they got to the US, what the purpose of those weather balloons was is that they hadengines.

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that worked on uh hydrogen.
The balloons were filled with hydrogen, which is very lightweight.
It's the lightest weight material.
Helium has two electrons and hydrogen has one, so it's much lighter.
And ah they were using that as a fuel and they could make coarse adjustments with it.

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And so miraculously, they went right over various military bases.
But what they did was to defeat something that we have going with all of that material wesprayed.
Think of all these planes.
They're spraying it out at 44,000 feet.
The kerosene essentially goes to vapor.

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It's no longer in a liquid form.
The particle is left falling through the air.
It continues to fall until it hits this feather bed pillow.
kind of an area of thicker atmosphere up here on 35, 34, 33,000 feet.
So it's fallen about two miles, roughly.

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A little less than that, but just for sake of discussion, it's fallen two miles.
And now it hits this denser area of air and it starts getting buffeted.
It's already kind of moving with whatever direction the jet stream is going, but now it'shit thicker air.
And so instead of falling through that layer all the way down to the ground below.

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ah It's kind of skipping along in that area about uh six miles up.
And by the way, when people tell you they're having a horrible day, it's horrible becausespraying is happening and those planes are getting stuff on me and they're just, we're
sick and we're dying.
Anything you see sprayed, it's not coming down to the surface where you're at ah in aperfect world for days.

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It's all the way in Europe or back in Russia or something like that, or come back aroundthe second path around when it got to you.
It's been around the world a couple of times.
You're, it's not reaching the surface instantaneously, not even a small fraction of it.
Um, so if you see it, you didn't get hit by it.

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Uh, so with that material up there, it gets into that buffeted area.
Now the interesting thing about material particles is they can store energy ah literallyalmost like a little battery and You know, it's kinetic it's heat it's other things but

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it's a particulate there so Now I can hit it with an energy device and heat it up give ituh
know, momentum, all sorts of things.
ah What we have on the earth, and people were aware of this from, you know, a couple ofbooks, angels don't play this harp, uh which Nick Baggage did up there in Alaska, uh

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referring to the harp, it's a double A, high altitude atmospheric research project.
uh
What they can do from the ground, and this is an SDI, Strategic Defense Initiative, StarWars, popularly named uh system, is from the ground, ah in these huge arrays of diodes,

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old fields of them, like a football field, bigger, they can send up a little teeny bit ofenergy from thousands and thousands of these little
energy generators, you will, or not generators, but transmitters.

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And what they would do, just like the magnifying glass, is they could be focused so thatall of that little bit of energy arrives at the same spot at the same time, ah wherever
it's at.
It's not just distance away, it's altitude.
And so they could send ah

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a energy wave at the speed of light, uh technically just to air under it, but they cansend it, and hit a very small place and they would heat up an area at high altitude way
above the earth, know, uh technically could be, you know, 40, 50 miles above the earth,one little teeny spot.

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and create an area of high heat where there's very thin particulates.
And then they would send a different wave at a different frequency, hit that spot like areflective mirror and bounce energy off of it and hit other places, uh you know, way

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across the earth.
So was like a reflection, point of reflection, refraction.
And
So they can send something up say at up there uh out east of Anchorage where the site thatmost people know about was out.
And they could hit Los Angeles, they could hit a place out over the ocean, could bouncethis thing off this high altitude location back oh to Whidbey Island up in Washington

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state.
And, or,
They can also hit these particles of dust that I just mentioned to you in that, you know,six miles up zone and heat them up.
And when you heat them up, they're jiggling really fast.

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Feynman used to like to use that term jiggling.
He was a very famous scientist, kind of an Einstein type guy.
And when you get those particles to heat up really, really hot,
in a short period of time, they'd jiggle around, create a little bit of a bubble.
And there's different things you can do.
It's not just one effect.
There's multiple effects.
But if you knew there was an incoming missile and a very intercontinental ballisticmissile was coming into the atmosphere at a certain location to hit, say, Seattle, then

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you could heat up the spot where that missile's going to be in 30 seconds.
and do it at the speed of light.
And when the missile goes through that exact little spot, the particles that you've putthere are jiggling so fast that they act like a semi-solid.

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And when the missile goes through that area, suddenly it's like hitting water with yourhand.
ah You go from the air and you hit that surface where it's real dense with water.
and you might have moved your hand five feet swinging around above your head and all theway down and that slapped the water.

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When you hit that water, your hand goes from, you know, 50 miles an hour to zero in abouttwo inches, right?
When you put those particles out there and the missiles coming in, it makes it act muchdenser, has higher energy, it's moving around a lot.

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And as the missile hits, it's like hitting the surface of the water will just break up themissile and destroy it.
It will cause super high heat energy transfer to the missile's warhead and it can'tsurvive that.
And you're six miles up.
So is this the Iron Dome?

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Is this the Iron Dome technology?
Is that how it works?
Well, I think it's within that zone, but it's not what the Iron Dome is.
Iron Dome as Israel uses it, is actually firing a bullet at a bullet.
It's firing a missile, an atom missile, and trying to hit it or get very close to it, thenexploding just in front of it.

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So it has to go through debris.
And so the technology to hit a missile with another missile is complex, but uh
That's what that dome is.
This is a different type of a dome in the sense that we're creating uh in an instant anarea in the atmosphere that a missile would get to and then suddenly everything was going

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smooth, it's all right, no problem.
You hit this super concentrated area of high energy and it destroys the missile.
That's what the dumb missile, what we and the Russians and China and Iran now have alldone has gone to hypersonic missiles.

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And so they can be steered or remember it takes a few seconds of this energy being setsent from a field of diodes up to a heated area in the upper atmosphere and then reflected
back down to that exact spot.
to heat those particles up to create that defensive location.

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And I can move it very fast.
It's just like holding a mirror in your hand.
If you hold a mirror in your hand, you're reflecting out the sun.
I can reflect that sun's light off of a mirror, and I can move from one spot to anotherspot that could be dozens of feet away, even miles away in a fraction of a second, right?

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Well, that's all you're doing here is you're moving energy around.
If I know where the missile's coming in, I can put that hot spot right where I want it tohave that missile hit it.
But when you're talking about something that can change direction multiple times a minute,moving at hypersonic speed, relatively slower, but steerable, it's very hard to create

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those hot spots.
And the problem for
for us also is the hypersonic missile is up out of the thicker atmosphere.
Remember, we're down at six miles.
Those hypersonic missiles are up there ah at 20 miles, 15, 18 miles.

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There's not much atmosphere there.
There's nothing to heat up.
There's no particulates because I'm not spraying them out of aircraft.
So what was done during the SDI project
worked for intercontinental ballistic missiles, but it's not near as good with the latesttechnology.
So it's becoming obsolete in many ways.

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Although the Russians still have huge numbers of intercontinental ballistic missiles, sohas China.
So until their intercontinental ballistic missiles are gone, this is still a relevanttechnology.
The other thing though that's going on that most people continue to have forgotten about

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The ability to control the weather is still a very big deal.
so uh about 25 years ago, we basically had weather control uh almost completely figuredout ah to where we could, with precision, uh change weather patterns.

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uh
weather anomalies, etc.
with impunity without any problem anywhere we want to do it across the continental US andto a large extent most anywhere in the world we want to do it.
The problem is there's a lot of different ways of controlling the weather and ah as I saidyou know you do things are like throwing a rock in a stream and then the weather has to oh

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go around that rock at the stream.
There's a lot of little things you can do with the weather.
And then a big portion of that goes back to these dust particles that you have in the air.
Raindrops form around particles of dust.
And those particles of dust can be electrified.

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uh Anywhere that US military operates, like guys in Iraq and Afghanistan, where
uh, we didn't want to take a chance on, uh, surface to air missiles, being able to trackan aircraft and fire a missile using, uh, you know, red eye, which, is just looking for a

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heat source or, uh, other types of missiles are more complex to track our aircraft.
We would spray dust in the air the same way, but at lower altitudes.
cause we didn't care.
It was only for a few hours and we'd be spraying where our, uh bombers or fighters mightbe working so that the people on the ground couldn't get them and we could energize that

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material was sprayed into those areas in such a way that the simple red eye technologytracking a heat source, uh, we could fool it and show, make it look like
the aircraft was someplace else.
And so we'd spray these materials into an active area.
And of course, you know, got wind and like that.

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So it might not be sprayed right where the action was at.
They might spray it 50 or 100 miles upwind, knowing it'd be right where we wanted it whenour aircraft went to the work in a certain area.
And with the, you know, atmospheric wind that's moving 20 or 30 miles an hour or more.

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I could be 20 miles away, spray it an hour before we were going need it, and it'd be rightwhere I wanted it on time, very predictable.
And they just go back and forth, putting down a layer of this material to be in that area.
And so that's kind of a common thing, and at much lower altitudes.

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So what?
And that material sprayed at lower altitudes, by the way, falls out of the atmospherewithin just, you know...
hundred miles, 200 miles, so it doesn't go around here the same way generally.
So anyway, go ahead.
No, so there's so much more to this than I could have even fathomed.
you know, whenever you think about chem trails and you kind of start digging into it um inthe way that a lot of people have, the ultimate conclusion is apparently they're trying to

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poison us and kill us.
uh This is a very different perspective and it's a very
complex um series of systems, it seems like, that they're using.
A couple of things come to mind.
One is um after the 2020 election, when there were all of those um military planes flying,patrolling the US, just like a tremendous number of drones.

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Was that in part something to do
with what you've been describing or was that just a level of readiness because things weregetting pretty tense?
different.
Okay.
No, completely different.
ah Let me just add one thing.
our military isn't out to kill the American people and the pilots in those aircraft arenot out to kill the American people and grandma and their brothers and friends and wives,

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babies.
ah There's been excellent security.
on those people involved in those types of operations.
uh You haven't had people coming out talking about, flew this, I did that, whatever.
No.
And in fact, the program back, uh for example, under Reagan uh was supervised directly bythe vice president that continued with uh Clinton and uh Bush administration, um where

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they had pretty direct uh
control, knowledge, et cetera, of those operations that were brought back to the presidenton it.
And again, you know, we're in the Cold War, there's still people that have missiles, evenif it's just Iran throwing up, you know, half a dozen intercontinental ballistic missiles.

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having the ability to keep the cities from getting hit by a nuclear weapon, you know,which do you want?
We're in the Cold War right now, Putin's been talking about, you know, nukes.
and threatening that it could be on again.
ah And so do you want to let go of that technology while you still have intercontinentalmissiles?

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Probably not, not for the moment.
ah Is it killing lots of people on the ground?
That particular program is probably not.
You could make a case how many are getting cancer because they're a little moresusceptible and all that.
ah If you're smart, you're doing certain things to help make yourself not readily right onthe tipping point of getting sick from that.

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that material is relatively, and I know I've got people jumping out of their chairs rightnow, relatively uh benign.
I don't want to be the one that gets the one hot spot that somebody else, everybody elsegot.
m
And by the way, and I'll get to your question in a moment, but I want answer this justgoing into it.

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um It is a problem.
These materials are like salts, and they do take on some of the other materials that Imentioned that are the stabilizers in the jet fuel.
And so you noticed as these programs got really going uh in the early 90s and beyond.

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uh, a pass into the two thousands like that.
For example, on the West coast, because the air goes from West to East, the spraying washeavier in the Western United States and then allowing these materials to just filter out
like a curtain across the country.
And so they were doing all the early spraying, you know, on the West coast or justoffshore of the West coast and very, very, very heavily.

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And, um,
The problem was that there is a percentage of it, especially with the way they were doingit in the early days, where more particulates, it was all concentrated on the west.
Just by volume of the jet fuel that was going out there, more of what was falling throughthat area up there, 30 to 33,000 feet, where you wanted it to sit 29 to 30.

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getting down to the surface.
And so in the Western forests on the Western side of the United States, you started seeingdamage to the trees.
And a lot of those particulates, they act like salt.
But what did they do in the old days?
If you wanted to destroy the land where an enemy lived, would salt the earth, the areaswhere they would plant their food.

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and then you couldn't grow anything.
So if you're sending down these salts through the atmosphere, ah salting the earth, you'redestroying the growing area, you're hurting it.
Well, it's one thing if it's a year.
It's another thing if the program's been going on for 30 and 40 years.

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And in the same stuff.
They switched because of a specific incident that I won't go into for...
uh agreements.
Something happened that was a result of this, and it was a very sad thing.

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And then it was understood that you had to spread this activity out.
And so instead of just spraying north and south along the western coast of the UnitedStates and Canada, they uh lightened the load there radically and only allowed it
be sprayed in stitches so many miles at a time.

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And so you'll see aircraft where they're spraying and they stop after uh they've traveleda certain distance across the sky and they're no longer spraying.
And then they will either circle around or they'll go a certain distance further on thattrajectory and start spraying again.
So you don't get high concentrations um in any area all at once.

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oh
uh and also across the country.
And um you'll notice that changed just around the 9-11 uh time period.
nothing to do with 9-11, the way.
Something else happened.

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And then um the loads in various places, including in the Western forests, was lightenedradically.
uh
so that allowed for a little bit of ending at this exact moment in time, we're probablygoing to see an end to this program at the far side, 10 years.

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I expect it to be done probably by the time that Trump leaves office.
We have other systems that can defend a much better.
That don't require this type of thing.
But the only thing that's in play here also is that.
again the weather control because you have these particles there you can put energy in.

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The weather is you know run by energy sunlight and we can artificially do things that thesun does naturally oh with the uh water droplets in the air and with these materials in
the air and so um for the moment ah there's a couple of different aspects including one ofthe people that I talked with not that far back.

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They had been modeling out how you turn this off.
If you just turn it off today, we're done.
um For the weather system north of the equator to re-stabilize is going to take oh severalcycles.
So they were looking at how to turn this off with the least negative effect.

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There is effects to doing that.
So easing out of it may take a few years when the decision is made.
So even if you were to end it as a program at the end of the Trump administration, theymay want to continue to be able to do some managing.
And then you have a huge weather control operation out of Wright-Patterson and modelingall of these things that's military.

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They're not going to want to let go of this thing.
They'll still want to have it available to them for various things.
And part of the problem is this.
getting that dust, if you will, into the atmosphere isn't a one-day job.
That's why they're it, you know, all the time.
They're not spraying it at night.
They're spraying it at daytime because you need that uh sunlight heat energy to dissipatethe kerosene and like that the most effectively.

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so that's why it's not done at night.
A little bit that's done at night is usually something specific that they're trying to doto
you know, get ahead of something.
anyway, all of that said, I guarantee you all the people involved do understand this doeshave an effect at the surface.

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There is a concern for all of the people beneath it.
uh And the equation that's being run on the other side is, okay, it's relativelynegligible.
Would you like to lose a hundred thousand quarter million half a million people?

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Because of a few nuclear devices even if it's just North Korea or Canada, I mean NorthKorea, okay, North Korea or Iran All your Canadians jumped out at me what we would never
do that.
Yeah, I know anyway, I know where that came from but oh there's oh

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kind of a, uh you know, there's more to it than a lot of people want to have to have theresponsibility to think through.
And ah the people involved are not monsters in that sense.

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This was done to protect us, save lives.
And by the way, again, go back to the water control, they killed a lot of people.
Soviet Union specifically, killed a lot of Americans when they moved the jet stream aroundin that decade and a half they were actively doing that and affecting weather in the
United States.

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They killed probably real number, a couple thousand Americans.
So this was done to save lives in this Cold War, this hidden war that was going on here inAmerica over weather control.
You don't put those materials up in a few minutes.
The systems to do that are huge.

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I it's the Manhattan Project, okay?
oh If you want it tomorrow, okay, well, we can have it for you in about a year.
Okay, that's how problematic it is.
Because there's a lot to it, and you can't up and do a bunch of money.
You can't get enough material in quickly.

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to make enough of a difference rapidly to affect the weather the way that we're talkingabout these huge areas of weather like that.
anyway.
John, that's extremely helpful.
A couple questions for you.
So we had Steve Jarvis come on the show a few weeks ago and you may know who he is.
He's a regenerative farmer out in um Idaho.

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He's working with RFK Jr.
on uh re-establishing
small farms across the U.S.
And his number one thing is the fact that the soil is tainted and um depleted, like thesemetals have depleted the nutrients and the minerals in the soils.
Would you say that this program is responsible for that?

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Or do you think there's something else going on?
Like there's another layer closer down to the surface that may be responsible for that.
Well, you know, I'm very familiar with a lot of that part of the fight.
There's no question that we're seeing more materials oh in the topsoil than we believewere present a long time ago.

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Of course, look, we've had a couple of nuclear disasters that are fairly serious and uhmaterials come from that normal industrialization oh exhaust from across the planets
there.
There's a lot of
pollutants that are getting in there, this material that's being sprayed is like a saltand it does have, uh the volumes are just almost unfathomable that are being sprayed

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daily.
ah So ah is it measurable?
Absolutely.
Is there things that you can do that may help to break some of that up or lower the amountthat's going into the plants?
I think so.
I've looked at some of the stuff where people are saying, but it's just monstrously highthis and that.

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If you look at the numbers, the amount that's being ingested by the plants is very, very,very oh minuscule in the stuff that I've seen.
I'd be glad to take a look at what they're seeing and look at those numbers, but I've seenthe stuff, uh one particular study that

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that I can't go into detail on, but was looking at the effect oh in Yellowstone Park oncertain materials where there's no other activity going on there.
And uh the brucellosis with the um elk herd there.

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And when you looked at it and went to the source, it had zero to do with the atmosphericspray.
It had to do with a specific project that was going on in Utah and oh where the falloutwas coming from.
That was stopped and moved to another part of the world.

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The rest of the stuff from just the atmospheric spraying was uh extremely minuscule.
Look, just like I was talking about this company with the shipping location for trucks orfor trains, trucks, ships and the dust there in average life, you're getting a lot of

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stuff.
We changed the fuels that are going into cars radically and reduced the exhaust gases andthe LEDs and everything else coming out radically.
People have no idea how much cleaner the air is.
than it was in the late 60s, early 70s and into the 80s.

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We have really cleaned things up and it's not due to electric, I can guarantee you that.
So that has minimal effect on what's going on in the atmosphere, real numbers.
So um I think we're on the right path.
um

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if anything, if I was going to look at the...
uh
the food that we're getting.
My main concern would be that it has to do with the fertilizers that are used and the umoveruse of the soils where they don't get a chance to regenerate the rest of the minerals

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that you need for adequate mineralization of the food we're So you're not getting thenutrients, you're not getting the iodine, you're not getting uh
the trace minerals that were present in the food where we had magnesium, you need to getproper nutrition.

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so looking at our practices so that you get the most nutrient dense food, more important,probably is more important at this point in time than what is
in the soil, they could be a problem to you.
You know, my personal opinion, I'm more than glad to look at stuff and consider otherthings.

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That's why though, I'm looking at doing large scale greenhouse operations and very sharppencil expenses for farmers wanting to switch a portion of their operations into
greenhouse operations.

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We can control the nutrient density better.
We can control the environmental factors better, ah including especially the water, ahwhere we're getting water to the plants in hydroponics or misting or other things.
ah You know, there's a big fight.

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kind of going out behind the scenes.
It's not a fight fight, but it's a contest, which is better going to soil-based growthsystems, plant systems, or to hydroponic or water or mist-based systems.
What grows the tastiest, healthiest foods?

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And so you'll see at farmers markets, know, guys, know, soil-based on stuff.
Because think of all the trace minerals that you get in various things.
And is the soil where you're growing something, is it weak or strong enough?

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Things like mint up in Idaho, you can only grow mint for so many seasons in an area.
And then it's done.
Why?
Because it pulls so much nutrients out of the soil that you're very limited on what youcan grow in that same area for a while.
while the soil recovers and other plants that you should plant in the area that help toput nutrients back into the soil.

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uh So the converse is if you want a high nutrient dense uh food, a little bit of mintbrings a lot of nutrients with it.
Why?
Because it's a plant that sucks the nutrients out uh of the soil very hard.

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hard and vacuums it up.
So certain foods, you know, there's cycles to it.
Are you getting food that's the tail end of the amount of nutrients left in a piece ofsoil?
You know, is the farmer rotating crops adequately?
A lot of things going on there.
or even where you have...

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oh
what I think is just extremely interesting and I've got to leave here momentarily so I'vegot to bow out here momentarily but you have no plow farming systems where we see all the
tractors out there mowing down and grinding up and tilling the soil at the end of the yearbefore you start the planting and all that.

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What they do is they just knock down the plants at the end of the growing season and leavethem right where they're at.
when they come in the next year to plant, they plant right through that hubris right ontop and grow oh the next season through that hubris.
And I was with one of the farmers a while back that was doing a no plow system.

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And I was shocked when he was showing me what was going on with the material.
says, here's my neighbor's runoff.
was raining.
He had to stop the truck and show it.
Look, look, look.
And so on these huge fields, his neighbor, the runoff was brown.
I mean, a dark brown.
He says, there's all your nutrients going right down to the river.

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It's leaving the property, know, washing it out.
That soil is going to be, he's ruining this farm because he's piling.
He's spending all that money and gas and energy to plow that field up.
On his side, he was doing no plow.
He was just knocking it down.
and leaving it right where it was at.

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If he did anything, it was a very light till, but he was keeping all the fabric of thematerial of the previous years of crops right where it's at and letting it digest into the
ground and become the fertilizer for the future.
But the other thing is, it's a filter.
That mat, when the rain hit it, it was a hard rain.

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At the edge of his field where the water was running off,
It was crystal clear.
My nutrients going downstream.
They're not going to the river.
Okay.
You get out of the stream and the river is cloudy where his stuff is clean, clean for thefish.
It's beautiful.
So a no plow system keeps the nutrients right where it's at.

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And when you check the nutrient density of his soil, he could plant earlier.
And he could wait to harvest later because that mat provided a certain insulation andprotection and security and strength for the crop.
The other guy got wiped out by a rain, especially a couple years earlier.

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His didn't get wiped out from the rain because it had more density in the soil to hold upand the crop came up stronger.
So there's lots and lots of parts of the equation that have to be dialed in and guyssometimes get in a bubble.
with what they're seeing or saying, they've got their zone that everybody knows about.

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um It's worth looking at it.
And knowing he's up there, I'd love to pop in and take a look at it see what they'reseeing, there's a lot of different things going on here.
And uh that's what's fun.
We have real geniuses experts applying their uh life energy.

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to solving some of these problems and I am glad.
We should all be thankful that we have those people doing that.
I'd love to see what he's seeing and what can be applied to what he's doing and what mightbe improved with some of the other stuff people are doing too.
Yeah, I'd be happy to put you all in touch.
I think it'd be great for the two of you to connect.

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So I'll be sure and connect you by text.
One last question for you.
know you have to run.
Is there anything to...
Well, I'll tell you, have a little theory that Trump's plan for a golden dome, the movefrom the iron dome to the golden dome, does that have anything to do with the kind of

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particulates we'll see in the sky?
Like, I was just thinking that maybe it would mean that we would have something non-toxicin the sky, or maybe they would actually use gold because it would still reflect in the
sky.
Is that too out there, Juan?
Well, there's...
oh
atomic levels of, you know, we atomic oxygen, have atomic gold or solar, and there's beencases made for doing that because there's a certain lens effect that we can do if it's

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done at high enough altitude out, you know, towards space, you know, 60, 80, 90 miles up.
But the volumes would be pretty high.
We have enough on the Earth to do it, but that's probably quite a ways out.
What he's talking about is the fact that...
We don't have to do it with chemical rockets, which are very caustic.

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We don't have to do it with stuff down in the ozone layer.
We can do it with lasers, and that's the defensive system that we're moving to.
So the goal is light.
that new technology.
Well, if you wanted to spray in that, that's not what they're going to do.
In what he's doing, it's more the principle that

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We're just using light energy to do what we have to do.
We don't need that dustification stuff.
ah And uh by the way, the earth is not heating up, it is cooling.
And that early stuff was there, it's just not cooling very much in a lot of the places.

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But it's also heating.
For example, we have ah up in Alaska and the northern climes.
We have glaciers that are growing, not just receding like we've had.
uh that was stuff that most people, what are you talking about?
No, we're melting.
It appears that it has to do with magnetic field lines coming from the sun.

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And so depending on where you decide to measure, uh some areas are getting bigger in theglacification.
And 50 miles away, it's getting less because it's following certain
uh tracks that have to do with the flow of magnetic energy across the surface of theearth.
So where you measure might be as important as the measuring itself.

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And it's more complex than most people are understanding.
What Trump is talking about with protecting us from people wanting to hit us with missilesis let's move away from ah these things that are
dirty and messed up and going to uh things that have a prayer of oh actually defending youfrom not just the current technology but future technologies which again are going to hit

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these energy weapons.
Look, and this is just one little clip, maybe we'll talk more about it the next time, butthe systems that were used in California.
in the Paradise and Palisades fires, the system was used in Maui against them.
Those are directed energy weapons.

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Zero question about it.
I'll go to court, get us in the courtroom, we haven't been able to get there yet, andprove it nine ways from Sunday.
Who had the authority to use those weapons?
And by the way, they weren't used on US soil by China or Russia.
Who had the authority to?
engineer those systems to do what they did under what auspices, authorities.

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Those are crimes, those are murder scenes, okay?
Those are homicides.
They were not an act of nature.
These weapons can be used in a lot of different ways, and we have people within oursystems.
Those are militarized systems that were not done by private companies, private groups.

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ah used against American citizens.
And I would contend 9-11 falls in the same category.
When we get to that agency that's been playing these kinds of games, ah people will needto hang.
uh They did it with knowledge, they did it because they were geoengineering for the planetand moving us to their 15-minute cities and everything else.

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there's a huge war that's got to come.
And the only way we get to the bottom line there won't be the FBI or the governors or thelegislature in the Senate.
It will have to be because of the um ways in which that technology is held within themilitary defense system.

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It will have to be commander in chief.
uh
executive presidential commission to get to the bottom of who had the authorities ah andmade the orders and deployed those systems ah to be used in those locations and for what

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purposes.
And was it legal?
Was it constitutional?
Which it wasn't.
ah
to deal with that and their alliances with global groups.
These are serious things that unfortunately, while people might think Trump should this,Trump should that, he should have done this already.

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There's layers and levels to this game that you have to get through.
He hasn't even got 150 appointments cleared by the House and Senate yet.
most of any president in the last 125 years, more than anybody else.
They're fighting a war with them to keep them from being able to do stuff.

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we got one hell of a fight ahead of us.
then by the way, you know, just as a closing thought, you're talking about what are allthe metals, what are all the contaminants, the pollutants.
I talked about the nutrients.
I guarantee you the most damaging thing to every single person in this audience, youbetter pay attention, isn't any of those.

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More people in this audience are dying because of parasitic exposure than anything to dowith the nutrients, with the uh pollutants, et cetera.
Even the metals, you know, we're talking about that are in

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some of the surfaces like that.
The lack of minerals that your system has, the immune system isn't able to defend itself,but also the metals in there.
um Holda Clark, who was a friend of mine around 30 plus years ago, she was doing amazingwork looking at parasitic loads in oh

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of the human population and showing that it was increasing and the variety was increasingfor lot of different reasons.
um If you address the parasitic loads in your body and getting the things that keep thoseparasitic loads under control and even reverse it, you've done more for your health than

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any other single thing you probably could do today.
There's, and by the way, there's about 30,000 different parasites that we find in thehuman situation around the world, lots of different varieties like that.
There's, you know, a dozen or so uh main groups and they're all a little bit different.

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oh And so, you know, you want to knock down that parasitic load.
That's why Jennifer put together
She has a kind of a cheat sheet on the parasite stuff.
She's got a thing over at her site, JenniferMac.com.

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put that in there.
Yeah, cool.
We'll put it in the show notes.
Because I want to save people's lives.
If you knock down the parasitic load and you could have different kinds and you could haveone load and your kids or your neighbor have a different load,
for different reasons, diet, exposure, age, all sorts of things.

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You want to knock that down, eliminate it, and then if you've got some kind of anopportunistic disease, as Holden said, all disease is traceable to two primary things, uh
the parasites and the metals.

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that are in your system for various reasons, exposures, even the utensils you eat from.
uh know, knives, forks, pans, et cetera.
In Holda's work, she showed the difference in the way that your system reacted to thepresence of those metals, and they create different types of opportunities for different

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types of parasitic loads.
to get a grip in your body.
And so you can get parasitic loads that are in the kidneys, the liver, they can show up ohas um kidney stones, fecal stones, um things like that.
ah And then also you have a mold, know, talking about old and moldy.

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Well, when doctors do autopsies, they see uh molds literally on the brain tissue.
uh So even with uh Alzheimer's and dementia and things like that, oh it's probablyultimately going to be proven in our lifetime, probably in the next few years,

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definitively, not even as a question the way it's stated right now, that those molds areoh the real ultimate cause of the loss of brain function.
uh
Alzheimer's and dementia like that.

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And I was just with a great doctor friend of mine in um Africa.
He actually went to prison in South Africa because he became known as the doctor that wascuring AIDS.
And uh he could do it in his little, in lab research, lab verified work.

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not just, you know, opium.
He could show that in 16 days he was eliminating the AIDS virus in the bodies.
And then uh you'd have to maintain that till it was completely flushed out.
But he could bring it down below a level where, you know, you would test for AIDS.

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And he was doing it with hydrogen peroxide.
uh His version was 40%.
He was using it intravenously, very, very small amounts.
uh you don't just do it at home for these types of particular effects.
But uh he was taking people that were literally on their last step and um getting themwhere they came back and functional and lived a full life.

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the blood uh
A lot of the blood diseases, which is his specialty, he's got a couple of PhDs, he's oneof the top people in the world.
But he was a threat to the pharmaceutical companies that were making unbelievable amountsof money.
He was only treating the poorest people, he was doing it as a mission.

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Literally contributing his life to this and wasn't about to make a buck, yet they threwhim in prison because he was disrupting the machine.
The blood level parasitic infections, again, the cures for these things, the treatmentsfor these things are relatively simple to knock down that parasitic load, that

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opportunistic parasitic load.
I think that's where you have to, parasites are all through our environment, the water,the food, the stuff you touch, other people that have something from somewhere.
far away, your animals, your cats, birds.
I got very sick several decades ago because I was in an environment where I was exposed tobird feces over a period of about a week that were fairly dense.

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Never gave it a thought.
Didn't think a thing about it.
And three, four months later, I was very, very sick in my lungs.
And it took several months before
I just, it was almost a year before somebody, Holden Clark in fact figured out you've beenexposed to bird feces, avatars.

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Here's the parasites that are in your lungs.
This is what's causing all the rest of the profits and your mucus and everything else.
And so it took about a month.
I had relief in like, you know, five or six days, but it took about a month.
to clear lot of that.
was using the zapper primarily and then you've got magnetic pulsars and things like that.

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That's all in Jen's stuff in her cheat sheet that she has.
uh she's also, we've got the same thing over at my site over at gumroad.com.
And so I'll shoot you over those links, but those those will help people tremendously.
They're every penny, you know, she's got them in a package in both places.

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And
I think it would benefit everybody in the audience to understand this.
I can do more to help people, think, getting you to concentrate on knowing there's aparasitic issue.
Even you mentioned Robert Kennedy.
Robert Kennedy, a lot of people don't know this.
He was having brain fog and other issues many years ago.

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writes about it in his book.
And they're looking at him doing all this stuff.
They finally figured out
He had a four inch parasite in his brain.
That's so wild.
So there's a person that everybody here in the audience knows.
He's talked about it.
They found a four inch parasite in his brain.

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Think about that.
Yeah.
Okay.
And so you're immune.
Every person in this audience is exposed to parasites all day long.
The question is, they get some extra opportunity by something going on in your lifestyleor stress?
that's brought down your ability to kind of keep them in check?
Or have they just been around in your system long enough that they finally are overtakingit?

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uh Old age is less to do potentially with actually getting old than all the things they'retrying to kill you, getting the upper hand.
And you got to get the upper hand back.
And some of that's a bit more aggressive.
And I think at this exact moment, we all need
be a little bit more aggressive.
And then the last thing I'll say on this, you were mentioning all of the drones runningalong the East coast looking for um nuclear weapons, specifically Trump even told you that

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fact during the campaign.
But beyond that, one of the other things that uh has been discussed behind the scenespretty consistently is there was some of these very large drones.
They're used for farming operations, so we're doing spraying.
And we see oh increased parasites of certain types in those areas.

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And there's been quite a bit of speculation behind the scenes that in fact that wasintentional based on what they were spraying.
wasn't an accident of the process and related to farming operations run by China.
So that's not a death sentence.
It's not the end of the world.
It just means that you need to be aware of the fact that you may want to attack this andthe, the, the treatments are actually very, uh, very inexpensive.

(02:15:29):
They're very, you know, personal, uh, you know, uh, with the certain of the nutrients, uh,iodine being a very big thing.
One of the guys said here recently in one of the
things talking on this, if I had to go to a desert island, I could only take one thingwith me for my health to be iodine.

(02:15:50):
uh And different iodines operate differently in the way that they propagate in the body.
And so there's some that are better than others.
Jen goes into that, the cheat sheet, who she likes and why, and she's used all the stuffthere.
So I just say all that.

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At the end of the day,
I need everybody here intact.
all got to get over the finish line together.
This is a team effort for all the things that Trump can and is doing.
If we don't get through this intact, then it was all for naught.
So I need everybody here in the fight with us and win by the numbers.

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know, yeah, it's more, and by the way, I ever met in that, just mentioned something to me.
It only hits about 20 % of the parasites.
So if you've been taking ivermectin, then there's all other things.
Great, fantastic.
And you may have noticed a huge difference, but there's other stuff where you didn'tnotice a difference.

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Well, that's because you may have a parasitic load that's in other areas of the spectrumthat's dominant.
the ivermectin, you know,
farmers use it for the horses because they get parasites.
You you go get dog dewormer.
Why?
Because they can get a heartworm.

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Yeah.
They'll kill them.
How many people are in here worried about, you know, the cholesterol when they actuallyshould be thinking about a heartworm?
Well, so true.
And it's very clear that, I mean, I had no idea that there was some indication that thatthere were they were spraying this soil to either propagate parasites or put

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One of the places without Idaho, you talk about Germany, look at this stuff, more of thesites was there in the Idaho, Oregon border.
So, you know, I know there's continuing looks at that.
It's very hard to using those types of biologicals to take over, but it's very possible,especially where you have fog conditions like that.

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So there's a lot goes in that part of the conversation.
I'm just telling you generically,
as a country, let's all be a little bit more aware of what's going on.
And then the nutrients stuff, by the way, last thing I'll say on this, it's not just thefoods that you're eating, but how they're prepared.
For example, with the breads, people back in the turn of the century, last century, peopleactually were tracking that the pre-ground flour,

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that was going out into the uh food system, where it's ground and it might not be used formonths or years after the flour was ground up, had a different biological effect on people
than freshly ground flour and then baked immediately.

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The nutrients weren't the same.
And so there was uh quite a bit of work done back in the
uh, twenties, uh, where it was being established that even mental disorders could be tied,uh, very directly to the fact that the nutrients that people were getting with the cereals

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and, and, uh, the breads, um, it's not a gluten issue.
It's a nutrient issue because when you freshly went, freshly ground and then baked allkind of in the same day.
the nutrient density uh and digestibility is very high.
As soon as you let it sit for a couple of days, the ability to um get all the nutrientsthat you need goes down radically.

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uh They literally uh are depleted over time out of the...
flowers and like that because of the way that you're waiting for weeks even before it'sturned into bread and baked in a position.

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So there's a very strong move right now to go to freshly baked breads with freshly groundgrains.
And in fact, in the stuff that I'm looking at for Africa,
That will be a key component of when you go to freshly ground flowers and then immediatelygo to baking it all within the same day.

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The way that the body absorbs those nutrients and the amount of nutrients that the bodygets is radically higher.
And so to help in those locations where these populations are in just brutal shape, youknow, right this second, right this second, uh,
Congo, Rwanda, and Uganda, just the kids, not counting the adults, it's about 50-50, justthe kids.

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You have two and a half million that are right on the brink of starvation because of thewars going on right in that area.
they have to have, I'm gonna send them in a care package from UNICEF, okay?
of stuff that was packaged two years ago, three years ago, okay, beautiful, wonderful, Igot it.

(02:21:41):
In reality, it may get them through the day or the week or the month, it may not actuallybring them back to true health.
And so we need to look at how can we actually improve the nutrient density anddigestibility of what they're getting and do it the more local way and we're gonna try to

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do that plus all the pollutants from.
everything else that's in the environment around them, the way it's done.
And by the way, that area is one of the easiest places in the world to grow food.
And yet you get people starving because of all the bullshit going on.
It's grinding.
So anyway, there you go.

(02:22:24):
I appreciate that your audience allowed me to go on.
I wanted to take some extra time with you because we didn't get to cover this stuffbefore.
I hope I didn't have people's
brains melt or eyes cross too much over going into all the minutiae.
hopefully that kind of helps with that subject for you.
It was incredibly helpful to me and got great feedback in the chat.

(02:22:45):
So thank you so much, Juan and thanks to Jen as well for lending you for that time.
We really appreciate the work that you guys are doing.
And I would love to be in touch with your doctor in South Africa.
don't um
You know, it breaks my heart to say this, but I used to work for Pfizer and governmentaffairs in Africa and I would travel to South Africa pretty frequently in that job talking

(02:23:09):
to government officials about, you know, getting drugs into the country and those kinds ofthings.
So I'd love to hear about some of the stuff that he's facing because we probably know someof the same uh players.
Well, let me just say this.
He's one of a number and uh
I'm looking forward to working through some issues that they're working on right now andgoing more public.

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It probably won't be till next year that we are comfortable to do that for variouslogistical reasons.
But I'll tell you this, some of the greatest patriots, men of God on the planet are theones that I got to hang out with even over the last few weeks.

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that oh are working at breakneck speed against every mobster group, political business ohthat you can imagine on the planet just to help and save lives.
These are people that could go out and make massive incomes with their skill sets, and yetthey're focused on trying to oh save a generation of kids.

(02:24:26):
like the conversation we had the other day up in Johannesburg, you know, to get the kidsto get that area back on track.
And this was a place where we had world-class business architecture, everything else, justa generation ago, to get them back on track.

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It's probably gonna take about two and a half generations, just for comparison.
And it's a brutal number.
to hear, but I'll just take a second and tell you this.
in that region around Johannesburg where they're burning all the garbage, they're livingin filth, it's just horrendous.

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In some of the work that's done there, you have an average IQ now of about 70.
What's that?
Is that just you can get educational opportunities?
Is it nutrients?
Is it pollutants?

(02:25:32):
Is it just the communications and things like that?
I can go on and on about that.
So when you have other people that are coming in and have higher IQs, do you blame thosepeople that are only working at the lower IQ?
It's not genetic.
Right.
No, it's not genetic.

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It's not natural at all.
It's not natural.
because, and at some level, if you don't turn, if you can't turn it around there, thatwould be where you'd end up more more and more uh as a planet with literally a very
advanced culture right beside a very um de-advanced culture.

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And then those people that are caught up in that,
You can help them, you can work them to become functional, but they're almost certainlynever going to be able to compete with a properly fed, ah environmentally sound, uh

(02:26:43):
educated uh group.
And then a lot of that is intergenerational to help the next one have that.
you literally are probably two and a half generations from being able to work right again.
And that is a crime against humanity, a crime against all those people.
The quicker we get in there and help those that can be helped, the better off we all are.

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And some of it, you know, look, the Pygmies up in the Congo, they're just smaller.
They're short people.
They're not tall.
And when the Pygmy
Husband wakes up in the morning that they get married now 14 15 years old because they'reall dead by 30 ah when he wakes up and his 14 or 15 year old uh wife ah As the newborn

(02:27:38):
baby, what's the first thing in his mind?
What are they gonna eat today?
You don't have a refrigerator.
They live in the trees And they're very simple people they are Christians
Most often, they have a belief in God.
They're just simplistic people that are just barely at the edge of uh the way they'velived for thousands of years.

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uh he just figured out, know, he gets up, he's going to figure out where he's going to getfood, which plants are available.
Is his buddy going to help him or are they going to get uh some type of wild animal?
They can put some stuff together and cook it.
They're very simplistic.
You know, it's not their fault that this is all they know.

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They didn't have to worry about a city.
don't punch a clock nine to five.
They're very vulnerable to everything that is society.
They're not worried about can they mine ah anything out of the mine and do it coherently.
oh They're just somebody else's cannon fodder for a more advanced situation.
Let me just.

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finish the whole conversation this way.
ah What those people wanted with only a half a billion people on the planet with theGeorgia guide stones, the way some of these breakaways are operating ah that are in play
around the world at one, the one world government where they can burn the world down likeNero did in Rome and rebuild it in their own vision.

(02:29:16):
They have access to technology just like what was used with the directed energy weapons at
Palisades, ah Paradise, Maui, that if you can't get them under control, you're as dumb andstupid and vulnerable as those people with the 70 IQ, as those pig leashes coming out of

(02:29:40):
the wilderness, to their access to AI, higher tech technology, uh all the other advancedstuff.
This is a God moment.
But for the hand of God, he won't survive their madness.
You're going to be as caught in the middle as those merchants and people that came in fromall over the countryside to sell their wares in Rome and died in the fire because of the

(02:30:09):
ambition of one man and his troops going out, starting the fire just when the afternoonwinds came up and burning the world down for their
Gain advance, but they're all listening to the devil himself.
So let me just say a quick prayer with audience for I leave Father God We know thatthere's so much going on in the world so far advanced beyond who we are where we are But

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we know or understand we get occupied with the world around us oh Make sure our kids arefed when we wake up in the morning that we get the paycheck in that week
uh Cars still works and is running to be able to get back and forth to work or things thatwe have to do in a society running around.
And that we depend on things that are ultimately out of our direct control in many ways.

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Honest votes to get people that are into office that are the ones we actually elected.
The things we actually want them to do on our behalf, not somebody else's.
Not bought and paid for by somebody else who can manipulate.
our lives from thousands of miles away, a world away.
The devil and his minion seek our destruction, seek that one world global dominance.

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ah But you have the leaves, the line, the river, the center of your holy city, the leaveson those trees that give their fruit ah in season ah annually, but the leaves of those
trees are for the healing of the nations.

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And in fact, you created the nations.
want the nations.
You want that individuality.
You want the individuality of our genetics, our different families, and how through time,from where we are right now, we pray that you would preserve us as children of Abraham,
children of promise, an earthly seed and a heavenly seed, not just to populate the earthand the solar system and the area around us, but to populate galaxies.

(02:32:19):
According to your will, Father God, I will be done.
Protect every person in this audience.
Give them the knowledge and the wisdom to exercise it in order to be healthy, in order tomake gains so they have hands that are full with which to minister and to help the people

(02:32:40):
around them and that are strong in order to pull up the people around them and help themstand on their own feet.
so that we as individuals can work with strong teams around us and that we as a nation,once we get our nation back under control of before you, Father God, according to your

(02:33:01):
will, to be about the covenant work that was planned all the way back to the pilgrims thatcame here and founded this Christian nation, that we would be able as a country, as a
people,
to have the luxury to be able to go out into the world, not to be our brother's keeper,but to be our brother's brother, to do the beautiful things that you would have us do to

(02:33:28):
be your instruments of beauty and righteousness, uh art, uh kindness, health, healing outinto the world according to your will, that we would be instruments in your hands to do
amazing and beautiful things.
that please you, Father God.
You created us for your pleasure, and we desire to do oh pleasant, beautiful, fun,interesting oh things with that which you've given us, uh and to enjoy the company of each

(02:34:05):
other before you, Father God.
We thank you that you make this possible.
We look forward to being part of that.
I pray for each person in this audience that they would have ah health, uh abundance, alltheir provisions met, that they would be delivered from evil, and they would be able to be

(02:34:29):
uh instruments of good and to bring a holy message, divinely inspired message uh via theblood of Christ, healing.
uh
life eternal in your presence, Father God, without sin.
No shadow of darkness in any person in this audience forever and ever.

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Radiant with your radiance according to your will, Father God.
I pray all of this in Jesus' name who makes this all possible by His blood, by Hissacrifice.
Amen.
Amen.
Well, thank you, Juan.
That was so beautiful and we're so blessed to have you today.
Thank you again for your time and thanks again to Jen for sharing you and we will betalking to you soon All right, beautiful.

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I appreciate all the time.
I'm glad I got to take a bit extra I couldn't have done that any other days except justtoday.
Yeah.
Now I got to get to work and get all my stuff done before Sunset.
Anyway, beautiful folks.
Thank you.
God bless All right
Well, thanks everybody for joining us today.

(02:35:41):
was a bit of an extended uh time, but what a blessing and what an education.
We will be back with you on Tuesday with Louisiana's AG Liz Murrell to talk about her caseagainst the kids gaming app that's been a haven for predators, Roblox.
And we may also get into the latest on the congressional redistricting issue because Ibelieve she was uh up at the Supreme Court earlier this week.

(02:36:07):
So.
With that, we will see you at 10 a.m.
Central on Tuesday and say a prayer for Chris that he uh fully recovers.
Have a great rest of your week.
We will see you soon.

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