#339 Local Justice & A National Awakening w/ Brenden Craig & Ohio Amy

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Good morning, everybody.
Welcome to the state of freedom where we are grounded in faith and the constitution and weare committed to the core principles of giving voice to the truth, living with courage and
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It's Tuesday, October 7th.
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I'm Danielle Walker and I'm joined by my good friend and co-host, Chris Alexander.
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We're here for you and we're so proud to be here with you.
So thank you so much for joining us today.
um Today we have a special guest with us, Brenden.
Craig is running for city court judge in Baton Rouge.
She's been in city courtrooms as a practicing attorney for 16 years and he's running on aplatform of ensuring that justice is administered with fairness for every citizen.

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And then on the second half of the show, we'll have Amy Young joining us.
She's also known as Ohio Amy.
She's the executive director, stage announcer, event coordinator and tour guide for theStay Awake America Tour.
They were in Grandview, Texas last week and they have a few more stops on their tour thisyear.
So we'll be getting to hear from her about that.
Before we do, oh, and just a note to everyone watching, our friend Brenden Craig isjoining us by phone.

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So you won't see him on the screen, but we'll be hearing from him shortly, right after thescripture of the day.
And that is Matthew chapter 17, verses 10 through 13 today.
And it says, let me see.
All right.
His disciples asked him, why do all the religious scholars insist that Elijah must firstappear before the anointed one comes?

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He answered them, they're right, Elijah must come first and restore all things, but Elijahhas already appeared and yet they didn't recognize him.
So they did to him whatever they pleased and the Son of Man is destined to suffer the sameabuse as what they did to him.
Then the disciples realized that Jesus was referring to John the Baptist all along.

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And the disciples were asking this of Jesus when they hiked down the mountain afterJesus's transfiguration.
was uh James, John, and Peter.
And that's where Moses and Elijah both appeared.
So they were connecting Elijah's appearance to the prophecy of the Messiah as theyunderstood it.

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They understood the scripture they'd been taught at face value, but Jesus explained tothem that the Elijah mentioned really pointed to John the Baptist because John the Baptist
carried the same anointing that Elijah did.
And this is just, as I was reading that, I just thought it was a great example of how thescriptures are alive and how they have layers of meaning.
And with Jesus' help, the disciples were able to understand the fullness of the prophecy,and we have Holy Spirit to call upon and ask for.

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help in understanding the scriptures as we read them today.
He turns on the light of revelation for us and he leads us into all truth.
And didn't he say, uh Danielle, that didn't Jesus say that many didn't recognize John theBaptist?
Yeah.
And I thought as you were reading the prayer that, you know, I would not want to be in asituation where one of God's great prophets were to appear tomorrow or even Jesus himself

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and not recognize him.
I want to be one who recognizes him.
I want to be one who
who knows him and has no doubt that that's him because a lot of people didn't recognizewho he was during his day.
A lot of people didn't recognize John the Baptist and it really is a charge for mepersonally to make sure that I'm in a state of mind and a state of spiritual ah awareness

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that I recognize the Savior and I pray humbly that I will.
I love that Chris and I just want to add to what you're saying because uh Jesus said toPeter, know, you Jesus asked who do who do they say I am?
And Peter said, you know, they said who other people said he is and he said, who do yousay I am?

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And Peter said, you're the Messiah.
And if you recall, Jesus said, you didn't say this of your own volition.
God the Father revealed that to you.
And so just to underscore the exact point of this whole scripture this morning is that itdoes take the Lord for us to understand our times.

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It takes the Lord to understand what we're walking through.
It takes the Lord to understand the scriptures.
And so, as you said, being guided by Holy Spirit is the way that we'll be able to do that.
And I just think it's a great reminder, you know, we're not going to understand what we'reliving through on our own.
Exactly.
Without that perspective.
And as we know, Danielle, everything that we do ultimately, ah you know, is informed byGod's justice.

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And there are a few places in our country, in our city and in our state where justice ismore important, no place rather than in court where justice is supposed to be blind.
ah As you mentioned earlier, uh Brenden Craig, candidate for Baton Rouge City Court,judges with us today.

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I've known Brenden for a long, time.
I've always respected him, both as a lawyer and as a man of principle.
And that's why I wanted to have him on this morning.
You know, the early voting is over now.
The election is this Saturday.
So here to talk to us is the man himself, Brenden Craig.
Brenden, thank you so much for taking a few minutes to join us on the State of Freedomthis morning.

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Well, thank you, Chris.
Thank you, Danielle.
I certainly appreciate the opportunity to be here with y'all.
it's our pleasure.
uh
election.
I know you have nothing going on except, know, bonbons and margaritas in the sun.
Yeah, exactly.
slow, slow spaghetti sauce every day.

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It's fun, you know, yeah.
exactly.
So what, you know, you have one candidate, Brenden, and what is your platform for thebenefit of our listeners who have not had the opportunity to listen to you or meet you?
What is your platform generally going into the election?
Well, first of all, I apologize.
I couldn't appear visually.

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I had some scheduling conflicts and so I got stuck only on the phone.
So my apologies for that.
But as far as my platform, one of the biggest things about City Court that we have, one ofthe biggest problems we have in City Court is that we have 133,000 bench warrants in City
Court alone.
That's a whole lot.
And that causes a lot of problems for our community.
One of the reasons we have so many bench warrants is, well,

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Most, the vast majority of them are in fact for traffic tickets.
Okay.
And so what happens is, and I've seen it time and time again, is that uh somebody mightget a traffic ticket for a rather minor violation uh or whatever the violation may be.
But a lot of times it's minor stuff like expired inspection, sticker registration,obscured plate.
uh And then uh they get that ticket.

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they can't afford to pay it and they get scared.
So if I go, I can't, if I go, if I go in and I can't afford to pay it, what is the judgegoing to say?
So they just don't go in.
And then, uh, that could, that bench warrant, the fact that it didn't go show up, it getssent to the DMV, their license gets suspended.
Um, it takes a lot more time, effort and money on their part to get it all straightenedout.
Uh, and additionally, the fact, you, so now you have more unlicensed drivers on the road,which makes it harder for them to get car insurance, which raises all our U M rates in the

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end of the day.
Um, but what I want people to know is, is that if you can't afford to pay your ticket, youknow, just come in and talk to me about it.
I can work with people.
I can give people time.
know, Chris, you've been a criminal defense attorney.
We charge flat fees.
Uh, we say, look, this is the total cost.
This is what we need upfront.
You can pay the balance monthly.
I've always said that, um, you know, if somebody can't afford to pay one month, that's allright.

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Just call me, let me know, shoot me a text.
I'll work with you.
Cause I don't want people out to choose between paying their light bill, paying theirrent.
and paying their attorney.
At the same time, I don't want to see them at the blackjack table or dropping dollars inthe slot machine.
But I want them to go ahead and take care of it and I'll work with people.
I'd be the same way as a judge, you know, I'll be the same way as a judge.
say this, let me just say this because I have personal experience myself uh working withyou over many years and I've seen how you've dealt with your own clients and you've always

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dealt with your clients in a way that's respectful and always uh your default position isalways to continue to work with your clients to get them to a good solution.
You don't give up on your clients.
And I have no reason to believe that you would be any different uh with regard to adefendant before you as a judge.

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Well, thank you.
And I'd like to think that that would be the same.
You know, I see the good in people.
You know, want to and I want Baton Rouge to be the best place it possibly can be for allof us.
And, um you know, like I said, I would want people to know that just come on in if youcan't afford to pay your ticket.
ah The problem is, is that, you know, if somebody doesn't come in, then I would have nochoice if I'm elected, I'd have to issue the bench warrant.

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And that's just that's just the law.
And
And you know, so I want people to know that I want everybody in the city to know that uhit's not just the people that can vote for me.
It's the entire city because oh because it's not if the entire city doesn't know oranybody gets a ticket doesn't know that then you know, the message doesn't get across to
where it needs to be.
oh And we can't reduce the amount of bench warrants we have in city court.

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And Brenden, what kind of cases besides tack traffic violations do city courts here forthose of us who are not attorneys and who fortunately
have not had the misfortune, I guess, of having to go to court and understand, find thisout the hard way.
Sure.
So city court, the vast majority of the docket is, in fact, traffic tickets.

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And then you're going to, after that, you're going to have misdemeanors.
The worst of those you're going to see would be DWI second offense and domestic abusebattery, which is a serious problem in our community.
A very serious problem.
I would certainly be
You know, I can certainly be tough on those who batter their spouses or their children.

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And then after uh misdemeanors, you're going to see civil suits up to over 35,000 smallclaims and addictions.
And that's basically the entirety of the Dockhead and City.
Yeah.
So you'll be handling criminal uh traffic and civil cases in city court.

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And you've done all of that.
You smaller civil matters up to...
You've done all that.
Yeah.
I have my first civil and criminal trials.
fact, we're in city court.
Yeah.
One thing that jumped out at me, Brenden, when I was reading about you was uh the ideathat Baton Rouge City Court, and I think there are a lot of people who would agree with
this, uh is sort of an organ of revenue harvesting.

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As much as it is a court of justice.
And you have an interesting proposal uh to...
maybe move away from that and allow a defendant to do meaningful community service in lieuof paying all these fines that set them back financially and as you said sometimes make

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them choose between you know feeding their family or paying their mortgage and payingtheir court fines and I thought that was intriguing talk a little bit about that.
Sure, yeah, Baton Rouge City Court fairly or unfairly has been called just simply amoneymaker for the city revenue generator.
I don't know, I won't opine on that at the moment, but uh yeah, somebody that can't affordto pay their ticket, I don't necessarily want them to keep coming back over and over

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again, keep telling me that, uh judge, can't afford to pay a ticket, I can't afford to paya ticket and just give him another date to come pay.
Um, cause then we don't get anything done and then their docket would in fact get cloggedup.
But so at some point, you know, if they want to do community service, they can certainlydo that.
And, uh, community service is already offered.
Um, I don't, I don't necessarily like the rates sometimes that they're offered.
So what I can perhaps do as a judge is I'd like to be able to tell people if you make $15an hour at your job, uh, you know, I'll give you $30 an hour community service credit.

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That way, if you have, let's say $120 fine.
You can, all of again, all of this is assuming you're found guilty of the trafficinfraction anyway, right?
But assuming you were guilty or you pled guilty of the traffic infraction, you have $120fine, then I can give you $30, you know, $30 an hour community service if I'm elected.
And then that way, instead of working at your job all day for eight hours to pay off thatfine at $15 an hour, you go do four hours community service, work off the traffic matter.

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and then still have four hours a day to go to work and make yourself 60 bucks.
um And so I, yeah, I like that idea.
Along uh those lines, you said something minute ago, assuming you're found guilty ofsomething.
And that reminded me uh that cases are tried in Baton Rouge City Court.
There are trials there.

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ah And those trials have great significance and great consequence to both the defendants,the city and the prosecutors.
uh Brenden, you and I both have tried a lot of cases in Baton Rouge City Court.
And my question to you is, as a judge, uh how do you view the presumption of innocence,the burden of proof that the prosecutor is required to maintain?

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We've both known judges who will go unnamed now, who never seem to find a case in which adefendant is not guilty.
no matter what the evidence is.
And then there are judges that never seem to find a case in which a defendant is innocent,no matter what the evidence is.
So how do you foresee approaching the constitutional uh requirement uh that a defendant ispresumed innocent and the prosecution must prove the case with competent evidence by proof

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beyond reasonable doubt in every case?
Well, you're right.
Every case.
And you said it is the presumption of innocence.
I mean, that's exactly what it means.
as, as in city court, uh, you know, they're bench trials.
So the judge is the fact finder.
and so you got to go in as the judge knowing that, okay, it's, there's nothing against thedefendant right now.

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If we see, you know, right now, we're going to say the trial begins, the prosecutorpresents the affidavit charging the defendant.
And at that point, without anything else, they're not guilty, period.
Because we know, you know, the charging instrument is not evidence of guilt.
It's simply the charging instrument.

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you have to, you know, at that point, it's still a presumption of innocence.
And, know, then, so the prosecution still obviously has to meet their burden of proofbeyond a reasonable doubt that uh the defendant is in fact guilty.
And, you know, you mentioned that there have been some judges that
in the past that we've both been in front of, uh, that, know, perhaps in their mind thatproof beyond a reasonable doubt is really just, well more, more along the lines of

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probable cause.
Yeah, they probably did it.
And, and I think that's, I think that's, you know, it's obviously unconstitutional, but Ithink it's, it's completely, um, unfair to the defendant.
the proof beyond a reasonable doubt is, is, is a very high burden.
It's the highest burden we have.
And as a judge, I'd make sure that the prosecutor absolutely meets that burden of proofbeyond a reasonable doubt before I would find anybody guilty of any infraction or crime.

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That's great to hear.
Now, Brenden, this uh race on its face is a race between two Republicans, yourself and oneother.
How would you say, you know, what differentiates you from your opponent?
So, well, my opponent Ms.
Boudreaux.
She's a wonderful attorney.
I didn't meet her until, I guess probably January.

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I her once and I've seen her a few times since, know, since the qualification period endedand during the campaign.
she, she's everything I've heard is she's a wonderful attorney.
She's a medical malpractice defense attorney at a very, very highly regarded firm here intown.
She's been there forever.
You know, she's done that her whole career and she's very, very good at it.
You know, as far as I, as far as,

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How we're different though is, you know, I've represented hundreds and hundreds of peoplein city court over the years.
I have tons of experience in city court.
When I first got out of law school, I worked for a guy named Jamie Rothkam and I was thecity court guy.
And so I would go to court city court every morning with 10, 15 files and handle them.

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And that was every day of the week.
And so, you know, I know city court, I know what works well.
I know it doesn't work well.
Um, and so it's really just, you know, what differentiates us is the city courtexperience.
Um, and I, and I've got it.
Great.
And you really can't emphasize that enough, know, and certainly not to impugn youropponent at all.

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As she said, I've never met her and I'm sure, you know, that she's a very fine lawyer, butthere's nothing in the practice of medical malpractice that really qualifies a lawyer for
everything that you have to be prepared for in Baton Rouge City Court.
And you never know really what you're going to see there.

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from one day to the next.
It's a huge docket that has to be run efficiently.
And as you said, it's civil cases, traffic cases, criminal cases, and it's just soimportant, not only from a procedural standpoint, that the judge knows what he's doing,
but also has an understanding of substantive criminal law and the Constitution and whatthe...

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The mechanism is whereby you try a a criminal case, and a civil case for that matter.
uh And so I do believe that that truly distinguishes you from your opponent insofar asyou're not gonna have a uh six week or a two month or a three month learning curve when

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you get there, as she will have.
uh You're gonna be able to get on the bench.
on day one and know exactly what you're doing.
And I think that that is an estimable benefit to defendants who appear before you.
It's a benefit to the prosecutors.
It makes their process smoother.
And it's just a benefit to the whole system, to the economy of the judicial system.

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And so I think that's important that you continue to point that distinction out.
Thank you, Chris.
And yeah, I do.
I know.
I guess in fact, I do know that I could jump in there on day one and not have a problemwith it at all.
I would know exactly what I'm doing behind the bench.
You know, like I said, I can't, I don't know how many times I've walked through thosedoors as a lawyer and I've seen a ton of stuff in city court.

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I know how it works and I could jump right in, not have a problem.
Yeah.
And I, you know, like I said, I've seen it and many others have seen it as well.
the way you conduct yourself, which is always with great professional uh decorum andrespect.
and, and one thing that, uh, that I know you will have is respect for everyone who appearsbefore you.

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Uh, you and I have both also been in front of judges who, who often do not respect thepeople who appear in front of them and they don't treat them.
fairly or with any degree of graciousness.
And I know that you will.
And that's just not my opinion.
That's based upon a body of work over a course of 16 or 18 years and seeing you operate.

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And unless you have a uh doppelganger out there somewhere who ah is going to go up andassume an entirely different personality, I think we'll be ah in good hands with you.
But I want to ask you this last question before you go, Brenden, because I asked thisquestion to every candidate when they're on the verge of Election Day.

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What is it that you want people to think about, uh maybe who haven't made up their minds,as they go in to vote on Election Day, a lot of people will be voting.
What do you want them to think about when they're trying to make a decision between youand your opponent and who to pull this lever for?
Sure, thank you, Chris.
So, you I mentioned earlier that I don't want people to be afraid to come into city courtif they can't afford to pay their ticket.

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um that's, uh Chris, you know, when somebody gets a bench warrant, it's contempt of court.
And so contempt of court is a, contumatious failure to appear.
And contumatious simply means willfully disobedient.
It's an utter and complete disregard for the authority of the court.
I don't necessarily consider fear of going in because you can't afford to pay your ticket.

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I don't consider that necessarily to be a contumatious failure to appear.
However, there's a very big worry about crime in Baton Rouge at the moment.
There's a lot of discussions about some judges in the 19th JDC giving ridiculously lowbonds to very, very violent offenders, and then those guys getting out and reoffending.

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Um, and you know, I mean, honestly, look, there's, there's a lot of merit to that, uh, is,know, criminal defense attorney, we try it, we get preset bonds for clients that have
arrest warrants and, you know, I'll go present the, the warrant to a judge and ask for apreset bond.
And sometimes I'm looking for 50,000 and I'll get 25 and I say, oh, okay, well, you know,I'll take it.

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Um, but, uh, but, know, so what a city court judge can do, however, is when you haveinstances like that, um,
where you've got an individual who's been arrested for a very serious violent offense,such as murder, attempted murder, rape, robbery, whatever it may be.
uh A lot of those guys have city court bench warrants, multiple city court bench warrants.

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And when somebody is out there committing very heinous offenses and they're not evenbothering to take care of their basic city court traffic matters, uh yeah, you could
certainly consider that.
one could certainly argue that that is in fact a contumacious failure to appear.
That is very willfully disobedient uh of the authority of the court.

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And so what a city court judge can do to help crime, you know, to help lower crime in ourcity is when those individuals are arrested, regardless of how low their bond may be for
that violent offense, if they've got multiple city court warrants or even just one, uhthey still have to go to call out before they bond out.

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So they get arrested, they get a bond set for the violent offense, and then before theycan bond out, they've got to go, usually on TV court before a city court judge and have
their contempt of court hearings relating to those bench warrants.
And so a city court judge can in fact give that individual six months on each and stackthem on top of each other.

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Obviously the defendant would have a right to be heard under the statute and you canlisten to his defense, but it's a summary proceeding.
A city court judge can give that individual six months on each, can stack them on top ofeach other.
And, you know, if somebody has eight bench warrants, a city court judge, sometimes it maybe necessary to give that individual four years, six months on each, run them consecutive,

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perish prison.
So doesn't matter what their bond is, they're not getting out.
So in that respect, a city court judge can in fact be a bulwark against really, really lowbonds being set for violent offenders.
And you would not hesitate to do that under appropriate circumstances.
Absolutely not.
Yeah.
Last question, Brenden.

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There are some who say, Brenden Craig, he's practiced many years as a criminal defenselawyer.
He has defended uh people who are accused of crimes.
And therefore there's a chance that his view of the judicial system ah and perhaps the wayhe would administer justice from the bench is skewed by his own experience because he

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hasn't prosecuted.
you have strictly defended.
And I want to ask you, is there any concern about whether you can completely remove anypartisanship about guilt, innocence, or previous position of advocacy when you get on the
bench and be entirely and completely objective and fair to both sides?

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So I understand that a lot of people, you know, look, I can see how people might thinkthat a lot of times, you know, people have this mindset.
Okay, well, this person was a prosecutor.
Now they're a judge.
So they're going to be prosecute prosecution friendly.
Okay.
This person was a defense attorney.
Now that they're going to be defense friendly.
Well, look, I mean, I've been a criminal defense attorney.
I've died in, I do my job and I think I do my job pretty well.

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And I'm a zealous advocate for my clients because that is what I'm supposed to do.
That is what the constitution requires.
However,
Judges on the other hand, if I'm elected, my job would then simply be to be a judge, not azealous advocate for either side.
A judge calls balls and strikes period.
Okay.

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And I would understand my role.
would take my oath very seriously.
And that role is simply to be a neutral arbiter of the facts and the law.
And that's it.
It's really, really that simple.
And
to anybody who's worried that I would simply be defense friendly, I can promise you Iwould not be.

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I'm gonna follow the law and I'm going to rule fairly and I'm gonna approach every casefrom a neutral perspective, always remembering of course, as you mentioned at the
beginning, is that the defendant does start with a presumption of innocence.
However, I'm gonna be fair to the prosecution.
I'm gonna be fair to the defense.

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And...
I don't know how to put it any other way is that I will objectively be a neutral, neutralarbiter of the facts and the law as a judge should be.
Well, we have no doubt that that will be the case.
We wish you the very best of luck on Saturday.
uh Very little doubt in my mind that we're leaning in the right direction with you.

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I think you're going to be a very good judge, and it's a privilege to have you with ushere today.
Thank you very much for having me.
certainly appreciate it.
And thank you, Danielle, too.
Thanks, Brenden.
Best wishes in your race.
Thank you so much.
And everybody, don't forget to go vote.
It's going to be a very, very low turnout election.
So check your sample ballots.
See if you're in the voting district.

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Go on the Secretary of State's website.
Check your sample ballot.
See if you can go out and vote for city court judge.
It's very, very low turnout.
So in this case, every vote will carry more weight.
simply because of the amount of votes cast.
And so your vote is going to be heard.
It's going to matter.
And I hope you pull the lever for me.

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Awesome.
thank you for joining us, Judge Craig.
Knock on wood, Thank you.
All right.
Take care.
Thank you.
have a good one.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Well, let's welcome in Amy.
She's here.
Amy, you there with us?

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Awesome.
Thank you.
is our first time kind of doing two segments in a single show, but we had two great peoplewe wanted to get in today.
You might have to turn your camera the other way or your phone the other way.
Sorry about that.
ah But you are the executive director of the Stay Awake America Tour.

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And we're so thrilled to have you with us.
Appreciate you taking some time out of your busy schedule.
And I look forward to hearing what you got to tell us about the tour.
Absolutely.
It's honored to be on.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, I am in route driving back second day driving from Texas So this past weekend wasour stay awake America tour, Texas in Grandview uh Texas so I'm in We had a fantastic

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lineup fantastic lineup I a lot of 20 national um speakers Judy Mike of edge
Dr.
Brian Ardis We had the band, the Christian Rock Band.
I believe you guys had interviewed them in the past.
Casper McLeod, Pastor Caster.

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So we have Pastor Caster McLeod.
No?
Okay.
I thought I had coordinated that.
And then we had a number of different candidates that are running for different stateoffices and federal offices in Texas.
We had Doc Pete Chambers who is running for governor of Texas.

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Then we also had um Valentina Gomez and she's running for uh federal US uh Congress, 31stdistrict.
uh We had um Timothy Maybree who is running for lieutenant governor in Texas.

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ah Also we had two J-6ers.
I, Stuart Rhodes, uh Weston Marx, Rhodes.
Yeah.
How did you get involved, Amy, in this uh movement spreading freedom and truth andconstitutional government and biblical principles and all the other good things that we

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need to be reminded of?
How did you get involved?
Absolutely.
Well, I turned into a mama bear 2020 like a lot of other uh mothers.
Prior to that, I woke up when the financial crisis of 08, it was a light bulb that wentoff in my mind.

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When Benghazi came to be, was a huge, it was like a slap in the face.
They think we're idiots.
I've got to do some research.
I've been in sales for 24 plus, 34 plus years in multiple industries, but never inpolitics, never in media or broadcasting, these are that sort.

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After Benghazi, I just, I became a lot more outspoken.
I've always been on top of politics, interested, involved, but raising a family.
We have six children, four grandchildren, and I'm taking care of my mom who hasParkinson's.
So we're pretty busy.
So I was just living my life, trying to get on, a new life, have a life like most of us,um most of us Americans want.

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We want to be left alone and just take care of our family, enjoy a nice quiet life, have avacation every now and then, right?
And do a 40 hour work week and weekends off.
Well, um
That all changed November 15th, 2021.
I got fired because I refused to take my job in industrial manufacturer supplier.

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So in the industrial supply business, I got fired because I refused to take the mandate.
And I also exposed the executive leadership for exempting themselves.
So mind you, in a $3 billion company, they wanted all of us to take the shots, but itwasn't good enough for them.
So at that point, that was a huge turning point in my life.

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Enough was enough.
I had some layering to know that things didn't appear as they wanted the narrative for usto believe.
And so from that point after, I call it my fearless freedom day, because it was finallythe wake up call.
to propel action in February, that following year, 2022, I uh encouraged, drag demanded myhusband to go with me to our first Reawaken America tour.

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And that was a huge God moment.
um In the middle of the night, the Reawaken America tour are two day events, Friday andSaturday.
Friday in the middle of the night, God woke me up in a sound sleep.
And mind you, this had not...
I have intuition, but I haven't had God speak to me before.
So it was quite a pivotal moment.

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He woke me up and said, did you bring your resume?
And I said, no, sir.
And he said, I tomorrow at the hotel, go downstairs, print.
He was very specific.
Print three resumes and get three envelopes and take them with you tomorrow.
And I said, okay, who am I supposed to give them to?
And as God does, he was silent.
So I woke up in the morning, I shared with my husband, he thought it was crazy.

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And I went downstairs, printed the resumes and brought them with me, put them in theenvelopes, them with me.
And we went back to the conference, listened.
I had bought four tickets, ah again, unemployed.
My husband was like, we don't need to go to this conference.
It's silly to tickets, you know, at this time.

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But instead of buying two, bought four because I was actually, had referred to being amama bear going back that summer when the mandates were coming out and people were getting
coerced um and told they had, you know, it was very evident that they were going to haveto take the shot.

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I started learning about affidavits.
I had written eight affidavits for family and friends.
um And I also was was suing our local school district because I had two um I had two myyoungest sons were in high school and they were mandating the mask plus they had They had

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clinics on campus for the kids to conveniently get their shots.
They weren't the high school wasn't mandating
but they were highly encouraging.
And so I defined it as bullying because across the corner was CVS.
So they, you know, they can let them out at lunch if they so needed that shot so fast.

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So um in backpedaling, I was suing the local school board and I did a pro se, but then asthey do, they brought off the guns and I, in the sense of, you know, the highfalutin
lawyers.
And through my connections, I received a lawyer that would take our case and do a pro se.

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So jumping to I bought two tickets for my husband and two tickets for the lawyer becausehe also lived, he lived in Canada and I hadn't had the ability to meet him in person.
We were always doing Skype and Zoom calls.
So needless to say, I met him at the door to give him
to honor him with the tickets to just, and lo and behold, I give him the ticket and hesays to me, oh, I just spoke to Clay Clark.

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He's gonna give us backstage passes.
And I'm sitting here in my brain, wow, he didn't need my tickets.
That's amazing.
He already had a way to go there.
And so I text my husband really quick who is sitting in the auditorium and I said, uhwe're going backstage.
I'll be back right back.

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Well, Wernher Mendenhall is the lawyer.
We went backstage.
ah I was in awe.
These were many speakers that I had been following uh for four or five years, GeneralFlynn, huge admirer.
And we were backstage.
I whispered to Warner, the lawyer, said, it would be fantastic to meet General Flynn.

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He said, really?
Walked up to General Flynn and said, this young lady would like to meet you.
And General Flynn, as she does, so composed, he said, well, I'm just going on stage.
I'll be right back.
And as he did, he walked off stage.
We walked off to the corner and he afforded me 45 minutes of wonderful just speaking.

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And I'm just, you know, am I'm just like, wow, I'm sitting here speaking to General Flynn.
And as I could tell that the conversation was winding down, my hand holding the threeletters, uh which I went to the bathroom with, they did not leave my side from the time we
left the hotel, is hitting, you my hands hitting the side of my thigh thinking, oh, and Isaid, General Flynn, I'm going to be bold.

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I shared with him that God told me to.
to make these copies and I said, I think I'm supposed to give one to you.
So I handed in the copy and it was very evident that his security came in, kind of swoopedin.
And he said, no, um this is fine.
And he asked me, he said, is your contact information on there?

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And I said, yes, sir, it's my resume.
So um he opened his breast, his suit jacket, put the envelope in his jacket and we were onour way.
um
Continue that to meeting more people at that point.
I gave I and Vander still my resume and also Clay Clark.

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We had it Yeah, I after that we went home.
um I continued interviewing Excuse me and found another job started working So threemonths after the can't reawaken I to our I get a phone call
And the gentleman introduces himself and says, hi, I um am General Flynn's right-hand man.

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I have your resume in front of me.
What would you like to do?
And it would.
That's what you call selling yourself there.
That is stunning.
Yes.
is I answered the call because typically I think we can all kind of attest to this that ifthere was no number, it wasn't recognizable.

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You know, it wasn't in my contacts, but I just had a feeling.
I was like, I answered it.
And lo and behold, I said, sir, I want to save America.
I want to do this full time.
I am in this corporate rabbit hole and I feel like the Lord is calling me to do this.
I don't know what that means.
You know,

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Let's have a conversation.
so from that, General Flynn put me and his different groups put me to work volunteering.
I volunteered for like four.
I did a border 911 event helped with media on that side.
Then I did a election integrity event in Avalon.

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Ohio with Laura Logan, which was amazing.
After that, I worked at nine of the Reawaken America tours in the in the media side, justvolunteering, traveled um all over.
And then that leads to last fall, the last Reawaken America tour in Selma, Ohio.
I was uh working that event and got the privilege to meet Pastor Casper, Casper McCloud.

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and he's of the Castaway Cloud band, they're a Christian rock store.
uh He's from the UK, he is Atlantic record uh rock star.
He's played with all the great, but at a point he had a near-death experience and fromthere on he started writing songs for Christ and uh left the recording business, came to

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move to the States and has been a pastor at the Upper.
Fellowship so needless to say I met Castro MacLeod.
We immediately connected that day and I Continued speaking after the tour.
He met with General Flynn because they were very good friends and I had a conversationThis was after the event in October and then November I President Trump gets elected and

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their conversation I
is after the election of President Trump.
And they come to both agree that the greatest concern was America going back to sleep.
Having a false security.
Yes, that President Trump's got this.
We can move on.

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We can go about our lives and, you know, we're saved.
And we know as far as from the truth, there's not one man or one woman that's going tosave us or save America.
until Jesus Christ walks again on this earth and neither can President Trump alone, youknow, restore the Republic or, you know, affect and bring peace to the world.

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He needs our prayers.
He needs our support loud and clear, but ultimately he needs our action, local action,national impact.
So with that conversation with General Flynn and Casper and Cloud, they brought me intothe
uh So this is how it went.
Okay, Ohio Amy, can you create, organize, and promote the Stay Awake America Tour?

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And I went, oh, no way.
I'm way too busy.
I have six kids, four grandchildren.
I'm working full time.
I was back in the industrial supply industry.
uh
very large territory and I said no but I'll help anyway you just tell me I'll volunteerwell as God does he taps you in the shoulder and God kept tapping me on the shoulder and

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said yes daughter Amy this is what I want you to do and so I Casper and uh Casper, Pastorthat's a mouthful, Casper and he likes to say he's uh not Pastor Casper of the uh
Casper the ghost of he is cast right he's he's not of the ghost he's of the Holy Ghost soI I met me yeah yeah nothing so flash forward

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me stop you for just a sec.
Okay, go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Okay, just a blast through and then that'll be probably it'll lead you up to today.
So God kept tapping me on the shoulder and uh Casper and I kept speaking.
We had another couple calls with General Flynn.
uh said, leading on to local action, national impact, which is his coin phrase is asGeneral Flynn does very well, he

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He endorses, he encouraged, and then he says, good work.
So um by January, I was in tune to the fact that, yes, we need to do this.
um I agreed, let's do one.
Let's do it in Columbus, Ohio, which is where I live.
That'll be easy to manage.

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We'll see how it goes and we'll go from there.
So we actually had our first event at the end of March in Delaware, Ohio at a church.
I and it was fantastic because of the reawaken America events.
I was I've been afforded some amazing connections and ah when I approached uh all thesedifferent national speakers, they said yes when and I confirmed to them I said, you know,

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we're a grassroot movement.
We have no speaker fees.
We have no travel class.
We are asking you to come.
afford us your time and we're walking on faith.
We truly believe this is what God is calling us to do.
And we know that um we got to reprieve with Donald Trump being um elected as president,but it's only allowed us to exhale.

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We need to get back to work.
The midterms are around the corner.
We cannot lose one seat.
and in Congress or the US House, or everything can be dissolved, all the work that hasdone.
So it's immediate.
We had success with Columbus, uh with Delaware, Ohio, and General Flynn could not bepresent, but he was in Rome and he recorded a video on his phone to speak to the audience

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and tell them why it's important to stay awake.
why America needs to stay awake and get activated.
So our mission is to unite, engage, and activate local action for national impact.
So with the success of that one, we planned our second event in Venice, Florida, becausethat's where General Flynn lives.

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And so we knew we'd be able to have him actually be our headliner.
In May,
this year, I like to say I jumped off the cliff, I quit my job and inspired and I am doingthis full time.
our second event was a huge success.

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Patrick Byrne was there again.
I can go into the list, but General Flynn was present.
And then from there, the end of August, we went to Knoxville.
And then just last weekend, we were in Texas.
So
We're walking by faith because we know this is God's calling um for America to stay awake.

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We have limited time and we need to let people know that each and every one of us are partof the solution.
What sets us apart, our event is uh the Reawake America was a wake up call to uh

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deliver uh to people of the information and truth that we're functioning under a lot oflies and deceptions.
And now it's time to activate.
So the difference of our event is we are delivering solutions.
We've had enough of the rhetoric.
We need to get to work.

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We're past due.
We need to get to work and activate.
we're bringing hope with President Trump in office.
and people aware of the lies and deceptions, there is a vacuum for leadership.
So there are people that are awake, but they're not really sure what to do.

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So what our purpose is, is to come in and to bring hope, because we know God's alreadywon, but until then we need to occupy.
So Luke 19, 13 says, you will occupy until
return.
So that is our responsibility to occupy.

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So people, know, faith over fear, but then there's a vacuum.
Okay, what do I do?
And so our purpose is to come in, bring hope, but ignite leadership.
And through truth and freedom and solutions, that engages people for personal andspiritual sovereignty.

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So we are giving them detailed solutions of where they can go next.
And we're really bringing people um the truth that you are the solution.
Nobody else is going to come in and ride on a white horse and solve this.
need to be engaged and activate.

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First, it needs to start with yourself and your home.
We need to take back our homes.
We need to take back...
our education of our children.
They are after our children.
And whether that is education, uh nutrition, vaccines, uh health, we are delivering thatinformation for mothers and for families to take back their homes.

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And as you take back your home and your personal spiritual sovereignty, then you can moveout.
But not until then can you really be powerful.
So there are people at all different parts of life that just need to read the Bible, needto know that the truth is in their hands in the Bible, then take back their families.
Then there's people that are already engaged, already running for school board, already intheir communities and their churches.

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um So they are looking for a greater piece of the puzzle.
And then...
As we take back our homes, our communities, our churches, our states, then we can moveinto the federal level.
But local action, national impact.
Yeah.
And Amy, you know, as you were talking, you're describing um exactly what I see.

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You know, we're facing a war on so many fronts and you think about President Trump and,you know, if you could stand in his shoes for a second, you can probably see warriors all
around you coming after you, right?
Going after the people, because I do believe that the war is literally in every facet oflife.
It's not just one.
uh But one of the main areas that we have the ability

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to make extraordinary change in a short amount of time is the elections.
If we can fix the elections, we can fix a whole lot faster.
Because I was talking to my dad about this, I think yesterday, and I was like, why are wecontinuing on this ridiculous um ruse of having elections?

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We're just trading out crooks, basically, by and large.
Of course, there are good people running and we need good people to run.
and we just interviewed someone um who's an honorable man that's running.
But at the same time, know, the primary system in a lot of ways is hijacked.
And um how is the Stay Awake America Tour tackling election integrity and with the vastnumber of influential people that you've had the opportunity to speak to over the last

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number of months?
Are you hopeful that we will see something click over soon?
that will make big change on that front.
Well, just like President Trump is working from the top down, we need to work from thebottom up and we need to get involved.
I mean, you can go all the way down to the detail level of precinct strategy.

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We have so many precincts that aren't filled.
That is actually the, are,
elections are supposed to be run.
It's supposed to be in the precinct, let it all and then bring out to our representatives.

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So restoring the public Republic is a huge initiative within the speakers that we bring.
ah But we really need to engage good people and get behind them so that they can run.
ah One of our speakers is Dr.
Douglas Frank.
He's doing amazing, amazing work.

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And he is teaching.
There's a lot of initiatives.
What I found with volunteering at the Reawake America Tour and affording all of these, Icall them God connections, is um a lot of people are doing great things, but they're in

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these uh little circles and not working together.
So.
That's a huge initiative, even in Texas last weekend.
That was something we repeated.
You are here for a reason.
You are called here for a reason.
Let us know what your skill set is.

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Let us know what your passion and purpose is, because all of us have different passion andpurpose and skill sets.
we're helping to connect people so they don't have to recreate the wheel.
There are people that...
so important.
Amy, you know, that's one of the things that Danielle noticed.
I know I certainly noticed when I first started Louisiana Citizen Advocacy Group righthere in Louisiana was how fractured the advocacy groups were and how unwilling for

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whatever reason they were to work with one another and compliment one another and give oneanother credit for doing great things.
I never could understand that.
And it was rather disillusioning for me because it's not my personality.
It's not how I approach life.
uh And fortunately, we have been able to consolidate with a number of other groups.

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And you know, the greatest thing that we have going at, you know, it's we the people Bayoucommunity, we the people, Northwest Louisiana, Louisiana Republican Assembly, my group,
LeCAG, others, the Republican women of New Orleans.
You know what we all have in common?
Nobody cares who gets credit for anything.

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Nobody cares who gets the credit.
And we're more inclined to give somebody else credit than to take credit for things.
And I think that is strictly the grace of God that allows us to keep in mind whatultimately is important because we truly do not care.
And that's why I think we've been able to be effective.

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And so your point about that is critically, critically important.
And I think both of you make a great point because the thread that ties all of thosegroups you mentioned together, Chris, is exactly what you were saying, Amy, it's faith.
It's belief that we're here for a higher purpose.
We're not doing this for our own ego.

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We're not doing this to get our name in lights.
We have a nation to save.
We have a state to save.
We have a community to save.
and God has given us marching orders.
And I think that's what we're seeing.
And what a gift to be part of something like that.
Yeah, and and you'll look at all of our flyers it's local our mission is to unite engageand activate on local action for national impact but all for the glory of God and It's

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interesting when you when you walk in this circle because you always get opinions andsuggestions and and whatnot and there was a suggestion
just after I think the second or maybe after the third event and someone said, oh, we'd bemore in tune with you if you weren't so all about the glory of God, know, all about

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Krishna.
said, well then, you know, we're not your cup of tea because there is nothing moreimportant than that.
since God put me in this position, my journey and my personal journey has just flourishedand is just gotten
so much stronger.

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I've born and raised Catholic.
I'm practicing.
I'm a devout Catholic.
My personal relationship with Christ is centered around the Eucharist.
you know, I know lies and deceptions.
I see that within, you know, organizations that, including the Catholic Church.
But that's a part of who I am.
But ah my personal relationship has just grown because I've said

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the Isaiah 6, 8, put me in, I'm an athlete so I kind of paraphrase it, put me in coach,put me in, your will not mine.
And that's a big thing Chris that we articulate mission over ego.

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And that's where it gets jacked up is when the ego gets in the center of it and that'swhen
uh good things turn rogue and that's why it's so important that our mission has to stayawake America.
We're going to be uh non-negotiables.

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We're going to always deliver solutions.
know, we're done with rhetoric.
If people aren't awake, we're just going to like tell them, you know, we'll catch up, butwe're moving forward.
We have no more time.
It's critical that we keep
uh We keep driving towards being active, action.

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So solutions in God, if that doesn't speak to you, that's fine.
uh But that's what we're about and that's what the call is about.
And it's interesting, um ever since it came up with Stay Awake America, it answers everyquestion, every question that's presented.

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um They'll be like, well,
this so this is happening today this is happening today this is the urgency or this is thefear mongering or this is and it's like that's right stay awake america stay awake we know
god wins but we need to activate and it's no longer a spectator sport we are hanging on bya thread and as america goes so goes the rest of the world so the responsibility is

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What do you say, Amy, to people who perhaps it's not fear with them, and perhaps it's noteven not knowing what they could do?
Maybe they're not particularly afraid, and maybe they have an idea of what they could do.
But there's an apathy there, almost a despair there.

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And I see it more often than I than I even care to.
where people are saying it doesn't really matter what I do, ah it's not gonna make anydifference.
It's not gonna make any difference that our decline is inevitable and I'm not going to getout there and sweat and bleed and cry uh for an exercise in futility.

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What do you tell people who are in that situation psychologically?
exactly what Charlie Kirk said, turn off your television, forget about politics, and openup your Bible.
Open your Bible and read.
And, um you know, that's harsh to some people, but they really need to step back becauseit's not about them.

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And when we get overwhelmed, and when we freeze, it's usually because...
um
We're not looking above.
We're thinking that everything needs to be solved by us and that we're the solution.
There's only one solution.
That's Christ.
That's God.
every, when I, my mom taught me this long because um she dealt with depression and thatkind of like ran in the, the, in our family or whatever.

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But she always, not something I did, but that she always told me,
action whenever you feel overwhelmed or anything action will always give you a differentmindset it's like you take the focus off of you whether it's go take a walk whether it's

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you know do something you know for a friend I I tell people in the audience that come Isaid you know you're a part of this beautiful tapestry
And the tapestry has many different colors and different shapes and sizes and forms.
But without any of that, the tapestry isn't beautiful.

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And each and every one of us have a different call from God.
I mean, it may be that you just need to check on your neighbor.
And that will propel whatever it is.
Maybe you need to be, you know, I need volunteers.
I cannot put this on alone without people just volunteering and helping.

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And it's so beautiful to ask somebody, well, you know, what's your passion and purpose?
And then they start talking and I see fabulous.
This is where we need you.
And that's really how we can get outside of ourself and kind of get out of that funk.

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that hope, the hopelessness is because we're looking for solutions within ourself.
Once we get in communion and we start coming together, then all the solutions actually,they're presented because God presents them.

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Yeah.
You know, um I know you're close to General Flynn and so he just put out a really powerfulvideo this past week about us being at war.
And I just wondered if you had any insight, do you feel like we have moved into a newphase of the war just like very, very recently?
And if so, what phase would you say we're in?

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Well, General Flint is a good friend and he's such an amazing, I mean, he's definitely thepeople's general.
He wrote three books with uh his good friend and a good friend of a wonderful um soldierand warrior uh for freedom and Christ, Boone Cutler.
He wrote three books, Fifth Generation War, uh They're All a Citizen's Guide, that's nameof them.

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The topics are fifth generation war,
AI and the church.
And so we're on fifth generation war and we've been in that for quite a long time.
It's just that people are recognizing it.
The one thing that everybody, I would assume 90 % of the population can recognize,lawfare.

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Lawfare is a way that we have visualized with President Trump.
But it's existed for quite a while.
General Flynn is a huge uh attack on lawfare.
They tried to silence him by um wrongfully um accusing him through, and really he is the,he was the catalyst to the Russia, Russia, Russia.

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They called him dossier, everything.
So that's lawfare.
So that was back in 2016.
when he was a national security advisor.
And before then, he was appointed by Obama as the DNI, Defense Intelligent National.

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Thank you.
And they brought him in from Afghanistan because he had written a 250-page intel.
about how we weren't winning the war in Afghanistan.
His brother was on the front line, Charlie, he had, besides just intel, he had a brotherthat was delivering the truth.

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And he wrote that, sent it to the Joint Judiciary Committee, and they did not want thatvoice to be heard.
So what did they do?
They hired him to be National Security Advisor.
then um actually the defense
defense intelligence.

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Yeah, DIA.
Yeah, the acronyms get all flipped up.
They brought him in front of Congress and they wanted him to lie and he was abused.
So because of that they fired him.
And then they then then when President Trump came in they told him, you know, the twopeople

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that do not hire General Flynn, know, he and then also, you know, Kim Jong-un, you know,those are the two people that you have to be most aware of.
Well, he, he, President Trump hired him and, know, very, very quickly they eliminatedthat.
So going back, we're in fifth generation war.
Fifth generation war has a lawfare taking over the mainstream media, being communicationsand narrative without, without weapons and bullets.

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We have been under attack for quite a while.
It's just a little more visible because President Trump had the wisdom to call mainstreammedia out, fake news.
That was the beginning.
So we could actually learn that we need to research and find other sources of informationso we're not controlled by the narrative.

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because communication is part of the war.
So we're in a spiritual war.
a war against good and evil and the prize are our souls.
And if that doesn't stand the hair up on the back of your neck, then you need to, youknow, do a little soul searching.
But we're also in an information war.

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Not everybody is getting the same information and I like to say, aka the truth.
So that is a...
That's the two pillars of where we are in America.
We're in a spiritual war and we're in an information war.

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So once you realize and can come and verbalize that evil exists, then you can kind ofstart understanding the spiritual war because there is evil out there.
It's penetrating um in all, like you said, in all aspects of our life.
ah If you look at the Georgia Guidestones, they were
They were either the of God just dissolved them very quickly and that gave it their wholeplan because evil has to announce what they're doing.

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That's just their contract with the devil.
And so the Georgia guys told exactly what they were going to do is depopulization.
So depopulization, how can you do that?
Vaccines, food, water, bio weapons, things of that sort.
And then you move into the mind, which is communication, control.

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a character assassination when you when you have a mainstream media if you have evil thathas uh mainstream media at their disposal to have 4 a.m.
talking points that the whole world is is regurgitating a same narrative it's shown thatit doesn't take so it only takes so much if you repeat a lie till people

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start to believe it.
Yeah.
the war.
then uh going back to the video, yes, I saw General Flynn's video and he has a he worksevery day with President Trump, know, whether everybody wants to have a name uh next to
you know, what cabinet he is uh a resource to Trump.

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has an office in DC now.
He spends majority of his time in DC.
timing is everything.
And just like President Trump and Bobby and the HHS cabinet or officers delivered lastweek about Tylenol, there was...

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In the truther community there was a huge like letdown like my gosh you know in the mahamovement he's talking about not Tylenol he didn't talk about vaccines you know how bad but
you have to understand i shared with you oh eight the veil was lifted to me in my walkinto truth uh how long

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Hey, and then being in that was the economic that was I I saw how communication had powerwith oh no eight and how quickly you know everything changed with the housing crisis and
then it the same thing where it is had in Benghazi.
Yeah, right.
It was a video now, you know, and that we've got the plandemic which COVID and 2020 and weyou know before that President Trump

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you know, winning the election and then him just being just the lawfare and the attacksand how much he actually got done in his first his first administration with every type of
of obstacle and he was still yeah, extraordinary.

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So again, to answer your question.
It takes so much layering.
We have been lied to and brainwashed and the whole world would collapse if just thenarrative could be, if the truth could actually be delivered in uh a 20 minute speech.

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So there's layering.
uh
evidence, let me say this evidence, uh Amy, of the grip and the power and the strangleholdthat the traditional legacy media has had on the American people for so long.
The ultimate evidence of that is that there is still a significant population of Americansthat still believe them.

(01:14:06):
despite all of the lies that they've told, all of the proven lies.
I mean, and I ask myself, how many times does a person have to be lied to before they stopbelieving the person or the institutions that are lying to them?
When does that happen?
You know, it's...
not enough right i said the same thing when is enough

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doing a great, great service in waking people up, you and your organization for sure.
And we're just very, very proud of everything that you're doing and in a relatively shortperiod of time.
It's amazing.
It's amazing what God can do.
And all glory be to God because it's only myself and Casper who's doing this.

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We're pulling this off without any sponsors.
We're asking for people to sponsor because at some point these speakers, need paid.
They're doing tremendous work.
we do honor a day's wage.
you know, they're keeping on keeping on because we do, we do know that this is the will ofGod.

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He wants to give us a reprieve.
He doesn't, he wants America to succeed.
But it won't until all of us, all of us do our part.
And there's one leader, President Trump is doing amazing things.

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Poor guy.
He's still getting a lot of our complaints because he's not doing fast enough.
And this man has just been incredible with the number of EOs in the first 24 hours of hisbeing 45, president number 45.
And then we just were such an instant gratification type of society.

(01:16:12):
and we just need to exhale, we need to do our part, and as soon as you get uh involved,you realize how hard it is to get things moved.
It really takes each and every one of us to rise up, stand up, and say enough is enough,and if you can't do that for yourself, do that for your children, your grandchildren,

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great-grandchildren, because we were so
We were so privileged to live, even though there are a lot of lies that have started along time ago, in all aspects, we got to live the American dream.
And that's not going to be up us.
And we are so close.
I mean, it's not like, oh, okay, if we just do a good job in this next year.

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No, we've got to, by January, we've got to be out the door.
Having our candidates, like you said, um Danielle, that we need to have constitutionalcandidates.
No more rhinos.
No more people with agendas that are against our Constitution, our First Amendment, ourSecond Amendment, just for the good of humanity.

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No more wars, endless wars.
People see through all that.
um
We're the majority and if we don't stand up arm in arm, we don't have a voice because theycan attack one of us, but if a thousand of us are standing, it's gonna be really hard to
knock that thousand down.
that's what we're to empower people to know.

(01:17:53):
timely reminder of what Jefferson said along the lines of what you're saying, Amy, thatdemocracy is not determined by a majority, it's determined by a majority who have the
courage to participate.
And we have to remember that, the courage to get involved.
ah And I hope everybody remembers that.
And certainly your daily life and activities are a reflection of that 100%.

(01:18:19):
Yeah.
And tell us.
your voice because we need to reach.
know, we just need, we need people to know about us and to join us and ah and tovolunteer.
ah
Where are headed next?
Virginia DC area.
So November 14th to 15th and so November 11th is Veterans Day and there's and PresidentTrump is having a huge parade in DC.

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So we want to kind of capitalize on that the end of the week and um get people together.
Church, the church venues have been wonderful for us.
because they're already set up in the AV and area and they have a good basis of peoplethat already aligned with a Christian uh worldview.

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um so yes, and then December, we are already at a church 1122 in Jacksonville, Florida.
So that's December 12th and 13th.
And then we've been called to Arizona in January.
And people are like, okay, you're coming every month.
And we're like, yeah, we're coming every month because we can't stop.

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We have to engage cities to get on board, know that they're important.
Everybody is important.
And it is a shame, that people feel overwhelmed.
But that's the enemy's playground.
That's exactly where he wants you.
He wants you.

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He wants you
The wearing down of the saints.
Yep.
Danielle reminds us, me and many others of that all the time.
That's where he wants us.
Yes and when you're lukewarm, that's good.
You can just stay over there because you're no threat.

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we need to be in community because as soon as we pick up our sword, our sword of the HolySpirit and the Word of God, he attacks.
And I personally have those.
And within the families.
And he does that where he wants you to stop.
And that's why it's so important to be in communion.

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Christ wants us to be in communion with each other, to encourage each other, to lift eachother up, to pray for each other.
And that's the only way.
When you know that it's mission over ego and your goal is to save America and ultimatelysave the world, uh it gets bigger than you can.

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so you know it has to be from God.
Yeah.
amen.
Well, and we want you, we'll extend the invitation, Amy, to come down to Louisiana.
We'd be happy to help you put something together here.
We'd love that.
If you come anywhere in the neighborhood, just let us know.
We'll definitely go out of our way to help you get that together.
100%.

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that.
If you have a church in mind that you can make connection, it would be wonderful.
We can start planning.
We're all about 2026.
So, yeah.
forward looking, always forward looking.
Amy Young, thank you for being with us today.
Keep up the good work and hopefully at some point in the near future, we'll be able tomeet you right here in God's country down here in Louisiana.

(01:21:50):
We'll make that happen.
Thank you so much.
God bless you and thank you for what an honor it is to be on your podcast.
I really appreciate what you guys do and bringing the truth and being a reach the voice.
You're part of the solution.
So I appreciate you.
Thank you.
Awesome.
Thank you, Amy.
God bless you.
God bless you.
Bye.

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Wow, Chris, I can see how she can plan events by herself basically.
She's got so much energy, she's got so much passion, and I know you can tell the joy ofthe Lord is her strength.
No question about it.
She seems happy.
And I was thinking as she was talking, you know, she has six kids.
ah And even before she started doing what she's doing now full time, she had a full timejob.

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She was taking care of a family member with Parkinson's, yet she was still devoting timeto better our body politic and and, you know, to return really our government and our
constitution to the people.
So what excuse do any of us have?
We don't have any excuses.
And yet we were always able to come up with an excuse for failure to act.

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And so I would just gently encourage Danielle, all of our listeners to do something, to doone thing every day that helps our state and your local community be a better place to
live.
And so much of it is instinctive.
You don't have to be trained and necessarily in advocacy in order to do things that youknow instinctively are good.

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for your community.
It's just a matter of making up your mind and recognizing on a core level that you matter,that you were put here for a reason.
You were not put here to be idle.
You were put here to act.
You were put here to engage ah and to use the gifts that God gave you.
And if everybody would have that mindset, can you imagine how quickly, quickly thingswould turn around?

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Yeah, you're so right.
And I think that's a great segue, Chris, to tomorrow, I will be having a woman namedRachel Owen on For the Love of Freedom.
started a 24-7 nurses hotline that saved over 200,000 babies from being aborted just byconnecting expectant mothers, crisis pregnancies with nurses who could counsel them.

(01:24:14):
So that's amazing.
I'm really looking forward to that.
She's obviously a person who has stepped up
and done her part, ah listened to the call of God on her life.
And then Thursday, we will be back here on the state of freedom with Gary Musgrove, who isfighting the good fight against carbon capture right where Chris and Alan perish.

(01:24:35):
And Alan Parrish, well actually he is in Rapids Parish, but the fight is very active thereas well.
But he's very, very active and is really at the spearhead, at the tip of the spear onbattling against the carbon capture sequestration racket.
I can't wait to have him on, a wealth of knowledge and just a truly humble man.

(01:24:59):
I think it's going to be a great experience for him to come on.
But I'm blown away by your guest, Rachel, and what she's done.
Can you imagine uh knowing that you are responsible for the fact that 200,000 human beingsare alive because of your efforts that otherwise would not be here?
I mean, that is a walking saint among us, you know?

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I know Chris, your mother was very involved with crisis pregnancies and making sure thatbabies had a home to go to when they got here.
And you know what?
It's exactly what Amy just talked about.
It's every single person, every single life is important to the Lord.
And so whether we're saving one or we're saving literal city's worth of people, um it'sall in service to the Lord.

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It's all in service to the Lord.
It's all in His honor.
No question about that.
And that's what we will maintain every day.
Make sure that y'all join, subscribe and support the state of freedom.
Invite your family and friends to do so as we continue to spread our voice acrossLouisiana, growing more every day.

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And the commitment we've made to you is that we will be uncompromising in our devotion toyou.
and uncompromising in the manner in which we speak the truth.
No doubt about it.
We cannot be bought off and we need your support so that we can continue to spread thetruth of liberty and freedom and justice, not only in Louisiana, but across America.

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So the state of freedom is for you.
We're your family and you are our family.
So if you're enjoying what you're hearing, support us, talk about us, subscribe, share,and donate and advertise with us.
Yeah, absolutely.
And support Louisiana Citizen Advocacy Group as well.
Chris is out there fighting for us in and out of legislative session.

(01:26:58):
we're edging nearer and nearer to the legislative session.
Chris, I do have uh some things on my list that I want to talk to you about, by the way,about legislation that we need to get queued up, we need to get sponsors for in the coming
session.
I know it seems like it might be far away, but it is not.
It's gonna come so quickly up on us.
we got to end.

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You what else I was reminded of yesterday in the meeting is that this is going to be anelection cycle year for us.
2026 will be right.
2026 is an election cycle year.
So all these folks are gonna be on their very best behavior.
And we're gonna have to remind people how they really voted the whole time, which I knowwe will do and we will take great pleasure in.

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And there is nobody ah who knows meticulously exactly what they did, even in the shadowsmore so than LeCAG.
So LACAG.org, support us, share as we continue moving forward.
And Danielle, it's a pleasure as always to be with you.
You too, Chris.
God bless you and I will see you on Thursday.

(01:28:00):
You bet.

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