FLF: #15 Obedience to God Unlocks Mysteries & Brings Adventure w/ Dave Hayes

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I am your host, Danielle Walker, and on the show we get to meet people who have rejectedthe status quo.
who've broken with convention and each in their own way are working to bring freedom tothe world.
Let me bring my guest on.
Hey, Dave.
Today, my guest is Dave Hayes, who's also been widely known under the pseudonym prayingmedic.

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He has been on a wild ride the last 25 years from atheist to Christian to a praying EMTwhose prayers healed patients before the ambulance got to the ER.
and he then delved into the world of Q.
He's a prolific author, written 16 books to date.
I believe that's the right number on topics like 23.

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All right.
I am behind the times.
But he's written books on topics like dream interpretation, hearing God's voice, emotionalhealing, the chronicles of Q and so much more.
There's so much to cover.
I think we're going to have to have you on again.
Dave, just to scratch the surface of everything, but thank you so much for joining metoday.

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Thank you for having me on the show.
And I have a little housekeeping I'd like to take care of real early.
Is this streaming on Rumble right now?
Okay.
ah I can probably get some more people on the live stream if you give me just a minute togo to your Rumble channel and I can put this in my telegram channel.

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Let's see, is it, what's the name of the Rumble channel?
It's the state of freedom.
Yeah, maybe you can get some, there it is.
All right.
And there we are, live streaming.
Let me put this over in my telegram channel and we'll maybe get some people on the livestream.

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Cool.
Yeah.
So anyway, back to what we were talking about.
Sorry for the interruption.
no, that's helpful.
That's so helpful.
Well, I always start out every show with a scripture reading to kind of frame thedirection of travel.
So let me do that.
The scripture that the Lord led me to for this morning is First Timothy chapter one, verse14.

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And it says, I was flooded with such incredible grace like a river overflowing its banksuntil I was full of faith and love for Jesus.
the anointed one.
And Dave, I was reminded this week that obedience is the natural overflow of love to theLord.
And to me, it looks like the Lord has filled you with his grace by, excuse me, ah filledyou with his grace, ah with faith and love.

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And that's what's enabled your ability to be obedient to him in all these realms he'scalled you to.
One of the reasons I wanted to have you on the show is because
your story from my vantage point, far, far away in Louisiana, is one of two-wayfaithfulness with the Lord.
And of course, there's so much we can get into here.

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um But on the first time I have a guest on, I just want to get into your journey with theLord and what he's walking you into now.
um
Maybe just to set it up a little bit, as I think back on my story with the Lord, there wasa big turning point for me that started with a dream.

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And that turning point invited me to change my mindset.
And it opened me up to hearing from the Lord in ways that were way outside of the gridthat I had with my background.
So maybe as a starting point, do you have a moment like that that you can point to withthe Lord that kind of changed everything?
Just one mindset shift changed everything?

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Well you know that I did.
If you know my story.
Yeah so I was an atheist until I was 38 years old.
And I'm not going to go into the long backstory about how I met Jesus at a fire station inon May 25th in the year 2000 because of a bunch of stuff that I screwed up and I kind of

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crashed my boat.
I got out of the boat and I said, okay God if you're real prove to me like that's theshort story how I how I met the Lord going from atheist to believer but in 2008 I had been
going to kind of a oh mainline Evangelical Church for seven years and I Didn't believe inmiracles didn't believe in healing or the supernatural.

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I was just you know, to church learning the Bible
sitting in the church for you on Sunday, you know, uh paying my tithe and listening to asermon.
In August of 2008, Denise, my wife, she had always been a very active dreamer and she was,a friend of ours, was hosting a dream interpretation workshop in Tacoma that weekend.

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And Denise went to the workshop and she's learning about dream interpretation, biblicaldream interpretation.
She comes home and says, hey, Melody said that, you know, we can pray over people whoaren't having dreams and maybe God will give them dreams.
I'm like, I haven't had a dream in 25 years.
So she prayed over me that night and I had my first dream in 25 years that night.

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In the dream, I met God.
that is wild.
I just, God was talking to me.
There was this bright light and I was having a conversation with the creator of heaven andearth.
And he said, he basically gave me an anatomy test.
oh So he said, I'm going to show you what is wrong with your patients and I want you topray with them and when you do, I'll heal them.

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And he gave me this anatomy test.
He showed me like a brain tumor, like sort of like a CAT scan oh of a skull with a braintumor and a normal skull.
He showed me another image.
It looked like esophageal varices and a healthy esophagus.
He said, what do you see?
And I said, okay, well, that's esophageal varices.
That's a brain tumor.

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And he gave me this anatomy test.
And each time um I saw an image, I told him what I saw.
He said, correct.
It was a little bit like, if you've ever read Jeremiah chapter 30, sorry, Jeremiah chapterone, where the Lord commissions Jeremiah and he gives him this test.
He's like, okay, I'm going to show you some visions, me what you see.

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Showed him the branch of an almond tree.
And he says, what do you see?
I see an almond tree.
I see a pot.
And the spout is pointing north and Lord tells him what it means.
It was a little bit like that.
And I was like, you want me to pray for my patients?
Like, I don't even believe in healing.
I didn't know what that was about.

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I was dumbfounded.
But over the next year, um I began begging God to heal my patients.
And uh it was just, I'd transport four, five patients a day.
and I would quietly ask God, Lord if it's your will, heal this person.

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And I did that for four or 500 patients over the course of nine months and nobody gothealed.
And at that time in 2008, there was a thing going on, there was kind of a street healingrevival going on in a segment of the church.
Todd White was one of the guys who was doing it.

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He was out on the streets all over the United States and in other countries.
He was praying for people to be healed and he was commanding sickness to leave, commandingbones to be healed, commanding uh tumors to be gone.
And he was, he had a really good success rate with healing.

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And I was, I was pretty tripped out.
I was like, wait a minute, you can't command things to work.
That's not how it works.
You're supposed to beg God to heal people.
Well, I went back and I started reading the New Testament, the gospels particularly with anew perspective.
And I realized, wait a minute, nobody in here is begging God to heal people.

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They're all like, in the name of, you know, well.
They didn't say in the name of Jesus, but ah sometimes in the authority of Jesus.
particularly in the book of Acts, Peter, James, and John, they were casting out demons andhealing the sick uh in the authority that Jesus gave them.

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Luke chapter nine, verses one and two, Jesus called his disciples to himself, said uh hegave them power and authority.
over demons and to heal diseases.
And once I saw healing with that perspective, realized, wait a minute, he gave usauthority, he gave us power to heal the sick.

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So the authority is I command you, disease, to leave.
I command evil spirits to go.
That totally changed everything.
I started uh praying with a different ah perspective.
exercising authority, releasing power, and then I started seeing people healed by thehundreds.

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was just crazy.
We seeing people healed of everything.
And so that was, that was the, the inciting incident as I would call it, that startedeverything rolling.
I was like, all right, here we go.
We're getting, seeing people healed.
And I got started writing stories.
had been blogging at the time, writing some of the stories about people getting healed.

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My wife had a brainy idea.
She said, why don't you start writing books?
And I was like, I don't want to be an author.
That just, no, I don't want to do that.
She said, you really need to start writing these.
Take your stories, put them in the
so I began writing books and yeah so I started praying for people in 2008 I we saw ourfirst miracles 2009

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I was on Facebook, that was my primary platform at the time.
I was connected to a lot of people in the street healing, we call it the street healingmovement.
There was people out on the streets getting people healed like crazy at grocery stores andhardware stores and soup kitchens.
So that was 2009, 2010.

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I was on Facebook writing a lot of notes, little notes, or kind of articles on Facebook.
And I was explaining various aspects of healing, emotional healing, physical healing,deliverance, all that stuff.
Emotional healing, not at that time.
I began writing about emotional healing later because I had to learn about that.
then December of 2013, we published our first book, Divine Healing Made Simple.

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And then Denise was like, oh, you know, you gotta write some more books.
we began this Made Simple series.
So there's books in that series, Dream Interpretation Made Simple, Hearing God's VoiceMade Simple, Seeing in the Spirit Made Simple, Traveling in the Spirit Made Simple.
I've got a lot more books planned for that series.

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uh Two books coming on spiritual warfare one is going to be spiritual warfare made simple.
The other one is going to be Defeating evil spirits made simple.
We have a book on marriage coming out love and marriage made simple ah so that series ofbooks is going and uh Very popular a lot of people really like how I take my my my mission

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is to take the abstract concepts
spiritual life and put them in concrete terms that the average person can understand them.
So when people talk about the anointing, when people talk about ah the glory of God, thosethese are abstract terms.
Power and authority.

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Well what does that mean?
What does that look like?
So I take these abstract concepts, spiritual concepts, put them in concrete language thatthe average person can understand.
That's what these books are all about.
And Dave, have to say I want to put a plug in for your book, Emotional Healing and ThreeEasy Steps.

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When I say, when I talk to people about it, anybody who is going through any kind of hangup in life that I think might be connected to trauma or some kind of emotional baggage, I
recommend that book because I just say that it's like emotional healing.
You can do it a red light because I literally have like
Literally, it's not like re-traumatizing yourself to go through the whole thing again.

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There's not like a lot of tears.
Maybe there'll be like one or two tears, but generally not.
Generally, it's just like moving past it completely.
It's so beautiful.
Yeah, Denise, my wife went through counseling.
to therapy for years because of her, she had some past issues.
And she always resented the fact that counseling was about dredging up your wounds fromthe past and talking about them and never getting resolution on anything.

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And she was like, it's just month after month of just dredging up the same old junk andnothing ever changes.
When we found the emotional healing process, like you said, it's you bring up this memoryone time, ask the Lord to heal that wound in your soul and boom, it's gone, like forever.
It's a crazy process and very simple.

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Yeah, so I appreciate you bringing it up.
Yeah, no, it's been absolutely amazing for me and I recommend it to everybody.
I saw you speak on that.
We originally met at Threadfest in Nashville in 2021.
uh And so you taught on that uh there.

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And so I immediately took those principles and I was like, I don't know if this is goingto work or not, but we'll see.
And sure enough, it worked.
like a charm is just what a gift.
thank you very much for doing that.
ah I want to get back to so you're healing people in the ambulance.
You were an EMT for many years.
Was it a job you loved?

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I mean, it suddenly became a target rich environment for ministry.
But was it something you love?
Love-hate relationship um Gosh working as a paramedic um I Was pretty severely traumatizedI'm just gonna say that uh I saw the worst things you can ever imagine and um It took me a

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long time to go through the emotional healing process to deal with most of the stuff thatI
have seen over my lifetime, not just in terms of seeing blood and gore and guts and brain,you know, gray matters, sprayed out along the highway and stuff like that.
But m I had a couple of jobs where the management at my employers um caused a lot ofproblems for me personally.

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So I have had to get a lot of emotional healing over that stuff as well.
When I moved down here to Arizona in 2011, that's when the healing stuff was.
mean, in Tacoma, 2009, 2010, I was seeing a lot of people healed and transformed inTacoma.

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One of the really cool stories that came out of Tacoma was my encounter with a well-knownnotorious drunk by the name of Cecil, who was a legend around the world.
for his drunken escapades.
ah The Washington Post, New York Times, they all wrote articles about Cecil.

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That's how famous he was.
For costing the taxpayers of Washington State millions of dollars in healthcare expensesover his 50 year career as an alcoholic.
Very abusive guy.
Long story short.
ah
I transported him one time in a rare moment of sobriety.

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He had been admitted to a hospital and he had been off the booze for about a week.
And I was transporting him for a mental health evaluation to a treatment facility and hewas sober.
I gave him this prophetic word.
It was the craziest thing.
We're transporting this dude and I said, Lord, just give me something that will justchange his life.

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And the Lord just, boom, just dropped on me.
This really, I just felt this spirit of prophecy hit me.
And I said, Cecil, the Lord says you are not created to be a drunk.
You're created to be a man of sobriety.
You're a wise man.
You're going to encourage people.
You're going to get off the booze.
You're going to be a change man.
You're going to preach at the rehab centers.

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And your testimony is going to change the lives of thousands of people.
I was just prophesying to him in the ambulance.
Boom, boom, boom.
And he was just like sitting there stunned.
what the heck is going on here?
No joke.
That was probably in, gosh, I'm going to say March, March or April, 2010, I think.

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And I am at Tacoma General Hospital three months later, June of 2010, I think.
And I heard the cops, I'm in the,
room writing my report after a call and I these cops talking about Cecil and they're like,yeah man, guys, isn't that crazy what happened to Cecil?
And I was like, what happened to Cecil?

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And the cops were like, he's off the booze.
And I was like, what?
Like, yeah, he hasn't been drunk in like a long time.
He's like, he's down at the rehab center going to like, know, 12 step or something.
I was like, I gotta find out more about this.
So I think a month later,
I was in the ER and I saw some nurses talking about Cecil.

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And the nurses were like, I walked up and said, you guys, like what happened to Cecil?
They're he's going to sober now.
He hasn't been.
uh
on the booze for like four or five months.
You gotta be kidding me.
So, um at that time I prayed for someone, a guy to be healed of a GI bleed.

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He got miraculously healed of this GI bleed.
He was in the emergency room in Lakewood and they had given him a transfusion of like fouror five units of blood.
He was bleeding out like crazy, bleeding for like three days.
I transported him and I prayed for him.
He had his big abdominal bleed going on.
And by the time he got over to St.

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Joe's Hospital where he was going to have surgery done, they did some scans on him and allof his bleeding had stopped.
And they didn't have to do surgery on him.
It was like crazy.
And I went to the hospital and I followed up.
I went to his room and I went in and I told the nurse, I'm like, hey, I transported thisguy over here.
Like, you know, I want to check up on him.
They said, he's doing great.
We're going to discharge him today.

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I'm like, what?
But yeah, he's fine.
uh
stopped.
was like cool.
So I hung out with him for a few minutes and I went outside and I went back to my car andthere was Cecil walking down the sidewalk right near me.
I was like oh great I gotta go talk to Cecil.
So I talked to him and and sure enough he had finally gotten off the booze.

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He'd he'd been playing the sober for like six months.
and he was going down to uh the, there's a church in downtown church, Baptist church inTacoma.
And he was down there going to, he was, he was not, he was, he's in rehab, but he wassharing his testimony and encouraging people.

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He's like, look, I was the worst of the worst.
Abusive crazy drunk alcoholic for 50 years.
He said God got me off the booze He can do it for you and what I prophesied to him sixmonths earlier literally came true And so that was in that was I was in Tacoma in the good
old days then it Yeah, then it My gosh, are you kidding me?

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Like this stuff really works.
This is not just make-believe ah
But then I came down here to Phoenix and I was still praying for patient people to behealed.
And this is where I learned about the emotional healing process because I was doing a lotof psychiatric transports.
I worked for a private ambulance service down here.

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So I did primarily inner facility calls and I was transporting psych patients from theemergency room to the treatment center.
And this is where the Lord started to teach me about emotional healing.
And I developed that process that you talked about, ah but it was very stressful.
uh I was doing critical care medicine down here, transporting high risk patients.

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And I was working for managers who did not have my best interest at heart.
And I knew that from some of the interactions I had with them.
So it was very stressful.
uh
ah I was making ah almost no money doing this work either.
The company that I worked for kind of screwed me over.

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When I left Tacoma, I was at the top of my pay scale because I had been there for years.
I transferred within the same company down here to Phoenix and they put me at the bottomof the pay scale when I came here.
ah It was just a bad, bad deal all the way around.
Job was stressful.

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You say, did I like what I was doing?
Gosh, I liked seeing God transform people and change them and heal them.
The job itself, I hated it.
I couldn't wait to get out of it.
In 2015, after publishing, I think we published six books by 2015.

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And Denise said, you know what?
You can kick your day job to the curb.
Just be an author now.
I was like, cool.
So yeah, I've just been writing full-time since 2015.
Do you have some advice for people who feel stuck or like in a job they hate or feelunseen or feel like they're in a wilderness season that maybe they're not released from

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yet but for some reason God's just got them hanging in that tough spot?
Yeah, well, it goes back to what you said when we started this little segment here.
You had a point where God yanked you out of the same old, same old and started you on adifferent path, right?

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All right, I did too.
I was minding my own business and one night I had this dream and God's like, okay, Mr.
Paramedic, you're gonna start healing people.
And I was like, you're crazy.
I've never even.
prayed for anybody.
um I think it kind of comes down to this uh issue of when you're uncomfortable where youare doing what you're doing, it's not working.

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There's no passion.
You don't love it anymore.
You're stuck.
It's at that point when you need to um step out of the boat, get out on the water.
and take some risks and do some different things that you've never done before.
I think a lot of times people get stuck because they get in this routine and they get sortof uncomfortably comfortable in the routine.

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You don't like it, you don't necessarily enjoy it, but it's your routine.
And if you're gonna get out of that routine, you're going to have to make some changes,take some risks.
and do things differently, do things you've never done before, do things you don't like.
When Denise told me, oh no, we should start publishing books and you could be a full-timeauthor.

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was like, you are crazy.
I am not gonna be an author.
I'm not gonna have my own business publishing books.
No, that's not what I wanna do.
I was like, absolutely not.
It took her a year to convince me that that was actually a plan.
I hated my job as a medic, but I was like, gosh, I really don't want to do this.

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But I took a risk and it's worked out great for the last 10 years.
So when you're stuck, um ask God specifically, what is my next step?
I will take the uncomfortable step.
I'll take the risk.
I just want to know what am I supposed to do next?
love that.

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Especially, you know, it's funny because God was talking to me just this week about beinguncomfortably stuck.
And the truth is you can be uncomfortably comfortable or you can be uncomfortablyuncomfortable, but either way, either way, you know, you're either stuck or you're moving
forward.
Yeah, you're uncomfortable.

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It's, yeah.
Okay, is there a pattern that the Lord has?
called you into these kinds of off the beaten path places.
like, can as you look back, can you see a pattern in the way that the Lord has called youto into those things?
What first healing, then emotional healing, deeper levels of faith and then Q like,what's, what's his pattern with you and how do you just know now like reflexively, okay,

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this is okay, Lord, this is what we're doing now, I guess.
All right, here we go.
Are you ready?
All right.
Denise and I were talking about this very thing last night.
uh We got an unexpected email and then a phone call from somebody yesterday who hasproposed something to us that is totally out of the blue, not expected, wasn't on our

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bingo card.
What the what?
Are you serious?
Like, we're just like, we don't even know how to respond to that.
All right.
So, so I said to Denise, of all the stuff that's happened to us in the last 10 years, didyou see any of it coming?

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She's like, no, not any of it.
Like zero, like nothing.
We haven't planned any of this.
um
When we got married in 2007, our um expectation was we were going to go to church onSunday, listen to sermons, pay a tithe, and maybe help people who have problems in their

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marriages.
At that time, Denise and I were looking at...
um
doing marriage workshops to facilitate people, a process where people could get past theirdifficulties in marriage.
That was what we planned to do.
That was our vision.
We haven't done any of that.

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We immediately got kicked out of a church.
ah And ah the marriage workshop thing.
just vaporized, we ended up moving down here.
Everything has been something, I didn't see any of this coming.
None of it was on my heart, none of it was my plan, oh none of it was expected.

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I resisted every single step.
When Denise said, you know, I think you need to get a YouTube channel.
Let's start doing live streaming.
I was like, you know, I think you're crazy.
I'm not going to do that.
No, and you need to start publishing books and we need to have our own company.
was like, no, you're a crazy woman again.
Stop talking that way.
the pattern for me is uh God.

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Here's the thing.
God has given me confirmation of everything through dreams, much of it in advance.
So like that.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
When Denise was talking about me writing books and having a publishing company, Godstarted confirming my wife's intuition through dreams.

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It's like dream.
I'm writing a book dream.
I'm, you know,
Setting up this this advertising campaign on Facebook for my for my first book Yes, godliterally showed me how to set up advertising campaigns for the book divine healing made
simple back in 2014 ah So then it shifted to something else when q came along god startedgiving me dreams about q I had Easily a hundred dreams about q during the first three or

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four years
where God was showing me different aspects of the Q operation.
um So although some of the stuff that God does, God does, some of the stuff God shows meis uncomfortable.
He has always confirmed for me whether it's through a prophetic word from a friend, adream that a friend has shared with me.

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I've had a number of significant moves in my life confirmed through dreams that my friendshad.
They came to me said, hey, you know, I had this dream last night and you were doing this.
And then three days later, another friend of mine sends me an email saying, Hey man, um, Idon't know if you ever thought about doing this, but I had this dream and you were doing
this thing.

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And it's the same thing.
The other person said, like, okay, well maybe.
And then I have a dream with the same subject and I'm like, okay, I got three dreams.
I got it.
I'm making it.
Got it.
I'm there.
Let's go.
when, um,
when in 2021 when the big social media purge came along because of the hunter buying alaptop and the election in 2020 and they had to steal the election and we all got purged

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off of Twitter and YouTube and all of our social media accounts got shut down.
My first two Q books got blacklisted on Amazon.
God showed me all of that coming ahead of time, months ahead of time in advance.
We saw it coming.
So in addition to the fact that God brings all these unexpected changes, for me, he'salways warned me ahead of time that it's coming and get ready for it.

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And I don't know why that is.
Like some people go through horrific changes in their life and they don't seem to get a aah heads up that it's coming.
I don't know why some people...
get blindsided by these things.
Almost everything that happens to me, God is like giving me dreams months in advance.

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That's amazing.
It sounds like maybe Denise, do you view Denise as the voice of Holy Spirit in your housesometimes?
It sounds like she's...
All right, literally every major thing that we have done in the last 10 years, Denise wasthe one who suggested it and I was the one who resisted it and it ended up being the right

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move.
everything from the book publishing to the YouTube channel to the Q stuff to the electionstuff to everything Denise is like I think you should do this and I'm like after a while
I'm like, okay I don't really want to but I guess I'm going to because I know if I resistit's just gonna make it worse

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But isn't it beautiful because it means you can't take credit for it.
You can't say that it's coming from a place of ego, right?
Because you literally dug your heels in and we're not into it.
no, she's the one who has ah the insight into what is the next best move.
ah Like I, the reason why I started doing Q videos, she's like, she was the one followingQ initially, like from the very first weekend that Q was posting.

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She was on the computer, Tracy Beams was doing the Q decodes, Denise is listening to theQ, yeah.
Tracy read the post and then give her impression.
And I was like, what in the world is this nonsense?
I don't understand any of this.
And Denise followed the Q post for the first couple of months.
And then she said, honey, I need you to start doing live streams and videos decoding the Qpost.

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And I'm like, but that's not really my calling.
She's like, yeah, well, I would do it, but I don't want to do video.
And you're really good at it.
So it's your turn to get on the camera.
I choose you to do it.
I was like, great.
I just got drafted into doing this um So she has these brilliant ideas and she's like butnobody follows me on social media Nobody wants to see me on camera.

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So you get to do it So I get to I get to work out a lot of her brainy ideas She has allthese great ideas and she's like now get out there and make it happen.
Like, okay, whatever you say boss
I love that.
And I love that you brought up Q.
So I was mentioning to you before we got on the air that the reason that I originally knewabout you is because my mom and my aunt followed you decoding Q probably back, I think she

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said in like 2018.
I think she's like a little younger than the Boomers.
Okay, so she's a Gen Xer probably.
Because there's a lot of boomer parents who have followed Q and their kids are like,they're crazy.
Like, my crazy boomer is following this Q stuff.

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the other ones, the rest of us don't think she's crazy.
So your sister and your mom got on board first.
My aunt and my mom got on board first and then I was living in New York, working forPfizer of all places uh during COVID.
Yeah, super fun times.

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And came home and kind of all this stuff started unfolding with, you know, I came homeJune of 2020.
So probably, I don't know that I woke up, woke up until probably around the election time,like maybe leading into the election.
of 2020.
to see some data points in the summer of 2020 during the COVID thing that was making yoususpicious?

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Yeah, I left New York because of the BLM riots.
I was living in Manhattan.
They boarded up downtown.
I'd been in my little white box in the sky on the 23rd floor by myself for 10 weeks whilepeople, you know, did the sing to uh the first responders every night.
And it was one of the most depressing atmospheres you could possibly imagine because Idescribe it this way, you know, in

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In the rest of the world, we get to live probably in houses.
You have some space from your neighbors, but the spiritual atmosphere of living literallynext to and on top of other people, beneath other people, it was so horrible.
Like the despair was palpable.
And I think there was definitely like uh a suicidal spirit that was very rampant at thattime because people were in such despair.

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I hated it and my dad came and rescued me, praise God.
And I came back down to Louisiana the first time I'd lived at home in 17 years.
But that's when I started.
It took me a little while.
I had to detox because I had lived in DC done DC culture for 14 years.

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Then I did some detox from DC in New York, which is its own interesting animal.
And then I moved back to God's country, the South, rural South, and it was like, yeah,yeah, I have some uh rethinking of things to do.

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have some, you know, I haven't been seeing things very clearly.
So.
during the election, something happened.
Yeah.
Well, I think, you know, a friend of mine had started talking to me about childtrafficking probably in like the September timeframe, August, September timeframe of 2020.
And I started digging into that and got into the fall of the cabal.

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I like binge that, which I wouldn't really recommend anybody just binging that, especiallynot if you're going to be home alone.
um But that kind of started me down a path of like, OK, everything people have been sayinghas been a lie.
And not that I like necessarily believed everything everybody said, you know, on the TV tome um as truth, but I thought that there was more truth to it than there was, I guess.

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Right.
Well.
Welcome to the rabbit hole.
Yeah, the rabbit hole.
It's dark and spacious.
Yeah, well, and the rabbit hole is getting deeper now with the return of Spygate, so weget to look forward to that.

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Yeah, now tell me, you, maybe, okay, so you started doing the Q decodes at Holy Spirit andDenise's direction.
And then were you already awake when you started doing that?
Yep, oh my awakening came in 2016 during the Hillary Clinton email investigation, which itlooks like Cash Patel might be reopening that investigation.

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Let's shut that.
So in 2016, there were, um the lead up to the election, there was a bunch of stuff goingon with Hillary Clinton.
was FBI was doing the Hillary Clinton email investigation.
There was the Clinton Foundation investigation.
FBI was doing that there was an IRS investigation of the Clinton Foundation's taxesbecause it looks like they were actually committing tax evasion is an easy way to say it

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and all those investigations are going on um spring and summer of 2016 at that time Ithink early 2016 maybe March or April the Holy Spirit gave me a dream
And he said, I want you to go look into the Clinton Foundation.
You need to know about this stuff.
So I did a month long deep dive into the Clinton Foundation.

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Just reading mostly mainstream articles, the Atlantic, New York Times, Washington Post,know, mainstream stuff.
Even the mainstream stuff at that time, uh what I could find exposed all kinds of
pay-for-play, whether it was the Stinger missiles that went to Benghazi and then it endedup in the hands of terrorists or the trafficking allegations in Haiti with Lauren Silsby.

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I just began going down this Clinton Foundation rabbit hole and it was I was actuallyphysically sick after a month of seeing all this corruption.
And I was like, oh gosh, I gotta come out of the rabbit hole.
So for anyone who is new and hasn't done any of this stuff, I do not recommend a deepwater immersion in the world of corruption.

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ah you'll make yourself physically or mentally sick.
Take breaks, get away from it, go touch grass, uh go for walks and stuff.
Don't immerse yourself in this stuff for too long because it will affect you in a negativeway.
That said, in 2016, later on in the fall, Devin Nunes was chair of the House IntelCommittee.

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And that's when Spygate started this illegal surveillance of the Trump campaign, the FISAwarrants on Carter Page, the Obama surveillance of Trump.
All of that started fall of 2016.
Holy Spirit was like, now I need you to get out on Twitter and start doing Twitter threadsfollowing this scandal investigation.

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people need to know about this.
just get on there with all the other guys and gals and start tweeting about it.
So I started doing deep dives into the FISA, the Spygate, Russiagate, whatever you want tocall it.
And then a year later, came along.
I was, when Q came along, I was primed, you know, ready to do some Q threads and exposesome more corruption.

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Before your awakening moment, would you consider yourself like politically aware,politically active?
Where were you in the grid of following politics?
Yeah.
So maybe the nightly news.
No, I didn't, I would have had no interest in politics at all.
didn't watch follow the news.
Denise, on the other hand, my politic, as I call her, has always been politically active.

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She listened to Rush Limbaugh.
She was, she was kind of, she's, yeah, she's OG.
She's always been very politically interested, politically active, and I have not.
I'm like, whatever.
When I took political science in my first couple of years of community college, I veryquickly realized what politics is about.

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It's all about the money.
It's about money and power and nothing else.
And so I had no interest in politics after that.
But then Q came along, and Denise is like, guess what?
You get to be interested in politics again.
like, you know.
And I had started to recalibrate my internal compass when in 2016, when the Lord saidClinton Foundation, I was like, what?

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I don't want to go in down this rabbit hole.
That's not my thing.
And he said, yes, it is.
Start looking, start digging.
And I was like, oh gosh, I really don't want to do this.
This is another one.
Like, I don't want to do this.
And the Lord's like, I don't care.
Start digging and start with, you know, Benghazi.
Let's just look into that.

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ah yeah, I have not, by nature, I'm not, I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I'm notterribly interested in politics by nature.
but the Holy Spirit gives me these assignments.
He's like, I don't care.
This is like, you need to follow this stuff and you need to report on it.

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People need to know about it from your perspective.
And I was like, yes, sir.
Okay.
I'm going to enjoy this job as much as I can.
I want to pull on two threads from that.
The first one is, I'm not interested in that, but the Holy Spirit told me to do it, so I'mgoing to do it.
You just kind of started answering it, but you have fun once you get into it.

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Yes, I do and see God knows What makes me tick because You know, I have an ungoodauthority that he's probably the one who made me so he understands what makes me tick And
he's like uh look, I know that you have a closed mind right now I know that your eyes arenot open I know that you're a normie and you're kind of blind to all this but you're gonna

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have fun doing this
Trust me, Dave, you're gonna get in there with the anons and you're gonna start postingmemes and you're just gonna get all in this thing.
You'll like it.
And I was like, okay, if you say so.
But that's what happened.
I, on the outside looking in, I thought, I don't wanna go into this whole, whatever thatis, I'm not interested.

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And God's like, well, you will be, just trust me, just do it.
And I did it and I've had a great time doing it, I really have.
It's been a lot of fun.
that's advice I want our viewers to take to heart because you may think that you're notgoing to like it at all and it's the worst thing ever and it's going to be painful and
boring or I don't know, whatever, fill in with your adjective of choice.

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But once you get into it, like you said, the Lord made you, the Lord made me.
So the thing that He's calling you in to do is actually to bring you into your purpose, tobring you into your destiny.
And I think that's the beautiful thing about just obeying the Lord even when it seemsreally like icky um because he brings us into places we would never ever go ourselves.

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He does and you know, I don't want to get too legalistic on this issue.
But when people talk about obedience to God, a lot of times that conversation kind ofstarts to wander into religious legalism, like, you know, like following the commandments

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of God.
you know, have to follow the way the 10 commandments and don't curse and don't do this anddon't do that.
From my perspective, obedience to God is when the Holy Spirit says, I want you to stop andpray for that lady in the line at Walmart who's got this shoulder immobilizer on.
And I'm like, oh gosh, all I wanna do is get out of here and get home and make breakfast.

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And the Holy Spirit's like, I want you to pray for that lady.
I'm like, okay, I'll go pray for her.
That's obedience to God.
uh For me, obedience to God is when God asks me to do something.
I want you to look at this article.
I want you to read this next article.

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I want you to do this.
I want you to do that, whether through dreams or impressions or visions or prophetic word.
the Holy Spirit, following the Holy Spirit's leading and instruction in how you carry outyour day's activities, work with your family, your friends.

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To me, that's obedience to God.
It's, it is allowing God to take the reins and say, here is what you're really called todo.
These are the people you're really called to partner with.
ah These are the projects I want you to get involved in.
ah Because he's trying to get you to manifest your divine destiny.

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That's at the end of this whole thing.
God knows your destiny.
He knows.
what he has called you to do and he's trying to get you to follow him so that you canpursue your divine destiny and accomplish it.
might ask you the impossible here, but can you talk about internally what that feels like,ah the nudging of Holy Spirit?

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Yep.
Ah, let's see.
It comes in a lot of different ways.
Um, and for those of you who are interested in more resources, there's a guy named BrianFennimore that, uh, he's become a friend of mine over the years.
We've known each other for 10 years.

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Um, I've had him on my podcast a couple of times.
There is no one right now in who's on social media.
who has a better uh ministry and a better approach to helping you hear, sense, feel, andfollow the Holy Spirit than Brian Fennimore.

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His teaching is awesome.
If you go to Plum Line Ministries, they have a YouTube channel, Plum Line Ministries.
Brian Fennimore is the pastor, the leader of Plum Line Ministries, and he has really goodvideos that...
going back 15 years about how to hear the Holy Spirit how to sense his leading the subtleways in which he directs us and leads us and prompts us I'll give you a kind of my my

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version of that right now I Happen to be a dreamer.
Although I wasn't for 25 years
I am heavily uh led through my dreams.
um God gives me a lot of dreams.
uh A number of them are literal dreams.

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Not all of them, but a portion of them are literal dreams.
God is literally speaking about an actual person, an actual situation that is going tohappen.
And he wants me to know how to react in that situation.
the Example when my YouTube channel got shut down God told me in a dream a year before ithappened You're going to lose your YouTube channel get ready for it start taking your

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videos move them over to these other platforms a literal dream wasn't symbolic He wasliterally telling me this is coming get ready for it So sometimes God's leading through
dreams and things of that nature is very literal plain
It doesn't need to be interpreted.
It's like, you know, the Q books, the first two Q books that I wrote, Q Chronicles one andtwo.

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He gave me a dream where those books are being blacklisted and removed from Amazon.
I was like, why are you, why do want me to write these books?
He said, because for the few months that they're going to be available on Amazon, peopleneed to read them.
So I want you to publish them, write them, publish them.
know they're gonna get blacklisted ahead of time, but don't worry about it, I'll take careof it, just write the darn books.

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I was like, yes sir.
So like I said, some of the stuff that I get that the Holy Spirit leads me on is veryliteral, it's very plain, it doesn't need interpretation.
The meaning is obvious as heck.
And then other things are uh very symbolic and very nuanced.

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And I have a lot of dreams where I'm like,
I wake up, I write the dream down, I'm like, I have no idea what that means.
ah And that's a bit frustrating.
But ah what I've found is if you journal your dreams, or if uh the Lord speaks to you morein visions, journal down, journal your visions.

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That the Lord speaks to you through the still small voice.
We'll talk about that here for a second.
There's still a small voice.
So a lot of people believe that if God is going to talk to me, it's going to be in thisloud booming voice and I'll know it's the voice of God.

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And that is not how it works.
uh It almost never works that way.
I've only had God speak to me in a loud, clear, distinct voice.
very early on in my walk ah in 2000, so 25 years ago, after I got saved, uh I heard God'svoice very clearly in my mind for about six weeks.

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And it was really loud, really clear at the beginning, and then the volume knob got turneddown over the course of five or six weeks to the point where uh
that voice that I heard was just a whisper.
It was hard to distinguish between my thoughts and what God was saying.

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And that's the key.
So God generally talks to us in a way that sounds exactly like our own thoughts.
Hate to break it to you, but that's how it works.
A lot of those
Brilliant brainy zany ideas that you have are not actually your ideas It's the Holy Spiritspeaking to you and that's actually how you know God is speaking to you so ah The Bible

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says God's ways are not our ways his thoughts are not our thoughts Now you're gonna saywell, what do you mean Dave?
You just said that his thoughts are our thoughts.
Well, no, that's not what I his thoughts
Sound like our thoughts they God's impressions his voice often comes to us in a way thatsounds just like our thoughts except it's a different kind of information, so if you want

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to know how Learn how to discern whether that thought you just had is your thought or
thought from God, you have to learn ah how you think.
It comes down to pattern recognition.
And I posted about this on X about a week ago.

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And I was talking about pattern recognition and how if you learn pattern recognition, ifyou learn to see, oh,
You know that breadcrumb over there, that's not just one breadcrumb because there'sanother one right over there and there's another one right over there.
And those three breadcrumbs are related.
They're talking about a similar subject, even though one's there, one's there, one's overthere, they're connected.

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They sort of make a path, a trail.
There's a pattern there.
When you're looking at political things, like we're looking at Spygate right now becauseJohn Solomon is dropping all these, you know, bombshells about
what's happening with the former Obama administration people.
Well, I saw a pattern in there right away.
John Ratcliffe highlights, he sends in a criminal uh referral for John Brennan and JamesComey.

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And then Tulsi Gabbard puts the laser pointer on Barack Obama.
And then we get some uh declassified documents about Sally Yates and Loretta Lynch.
And I was like, oh, they're highlighting all these people at the top.
of the Obama administration because they're all going to get indicted.
Probably, right?

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I was like, oh, they're telling us in advance who's going to, who we can look for to, beas a part of this criminal investigation that they're going on.
So I saw that I saw this pattern, right?
Pattern recognition.
Well, when you're talking about the Holy Spirit talking to us, it's kind of the same way.

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I have
patterns of thinking, the way that I think, the way that I view the world, the way that Iview relationships, the way that I view my job, I have patterns of thinking.
And I know the way that my mind thinks.
I know the way that I think about food.

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I know the way that I think about politics.
I know the way that I think about church leadership.
I know my thoughts.
And then, so because I know the way that I think, when I get this thought that comes kindof out of the blue and I'm like, what the heck?

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Where did that come from?
That thought?
Like that's not the kind of thought I would think.
And I realized, oh, that's God.
All right.
So here's, here's what that looks like in reality.
I, uh,
I'm sitting here thinking I'm writing a book and I'm working on a manuscript.

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And it's a book about marriage, which I'm actually working on right now.
Denise and I are drafting a book on marriage.
right.
I know I haven't, those of you who are listening, we haven't talked about this a wholelot.
Denise and I have been batting around the idea of writing a book on marriage for years,five or six years.
This was actually when we first got married, this was what we thought our ministry wasgoing to be, facilitating marriage workshops.

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So we're composing this book on marriage.
and I'm sitting here writing a chapter and I'm kind of in a stuck place and all of sudden,boom, I get this idea.
Like, oh man, I gotta write about this.
Oh yeah, like I don't even really know about.

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And I start writing and I'm writing about things I haven't actually considered before.
Right?
So for example, I'm writing about ah how ah men and women ah get involved in what's calledindependent behavior, which is behavior that the other person doesn't know of and doesn't

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approve of.
but you're gonna do it anyway.
This is an example in this marriage book.
I had not thought about writing about this.
I hadn't planned on writing about it.
And suddenly, boom, this idea comes to me.
And I'm like, I gotta start, I have to look into this and research it and do, and find outabout it.
When those ideas come to you that you haven't thought about, you don't know nothing aboutit, ah or the subject comes to you from a different perspective, you get this insight.

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I'm like, wow, I totally understand this now.
That's how that is an example of how God is speaking to you.
He's giving you insight, information, a perspective you didn't have before.
ah Here's a here's a better example.
ah There you are.
You're having dinner at a restaurant and you're sitting with boyfriend, girlfriend,father, mother, whoever.

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Someone is there at the restaurant with you and
You go in there just to get something to eat.
You don't plan on staying there very long.
And suddenly the person who's serving you comes over and you're talking to them and youget inspired to talk to them a little bit more about their personal life in a restaurant.

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And you start asking about their personal life.
And suddenly you find out that
They're actually going through cancer treatment and they've got massive bills and ahthey're just trying to keep their head afloat, keep their head above water.
And you have this uh unexplainable feeling to reach into your wallet and give them $50 andpray for them.

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That urge to pray for them and give them $50 didn't come from you.
I was the Holy Spirit talking to you saying, you need to give them money and you need topray for them.
All right.
It's in that way where you get these ideas, these thoughts, these alluding to dosomething, talk to somebody, write something that came out of the blue.

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It's not how you would normally react.
It's not the way you normally think about something.
It is...
distinct and different from your way of thinking.
When you get this idea, this urge that is different from your way of thinking, that is avery good possibility that God is speaking to you about something.
ah It's a very nuanced thing.

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Again, it comes down to this issue of do you know your own ways of thinking, your ownviews toward money, your own views toward what is normal behavior in a restaurant?
Well, normal behavior in a restaurant for me is not praying for a stranger and giving themmoney, right?
So that's kind of my explanation of how to be led by the Holy Spirit.

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Super helpful.
Do you think the Lord um speaks through deja vu or has he ever spoken to you through dejavu?
Yep.
Oh boy.
Have I had some deja vu.

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Alright, 2008.
Yep, was right after I had that dream where I talked to God.
It's 2008.
I had a dream and in the dream, Denise and I went to see Kim Clement.

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I didn't know who Kim Clement was.
I'd never heard of him.
I wake up and I write the dream down and said, Denise and I are having coffee.
She I said, she said, you have any dream?
I said, yeah, I had this dream that one saw this guy named Kim Clement.
I don't even know who that is.
She's like, really?
I said, yeah, we're, we're at a Kim Clement thing.
She's like,
He's gonna be in Tacoma in like three weeks.

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I said, well, maybe we should go.
So we get tickets to go and see Kim Clement in Tacoma in 2008.
And I didn't know who this guy was.
I knew nothing about him.
We go there.

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And this crazy man from South Africa.
He's got this piano and he's singing and he's prophesying and something.
The charismatic prophecy stuff was all new to me at that time.
I didn't have a grid for it.
I like, this is really weird.
He starts singing this song and I'm like, holy crap, I know the words to this song.

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And he's singing and I know the tune and I know.
the words and I'm singing the song with him.
Denise is staring at me.
She's like, what are you doing?
How do you know this song?
And I'm like, I don't know.
I know it.
And then he sings another song and I know all the words to that song.
I know the melody.
I know all the entire song is in my head.

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I'm like, I'm singing a song I've never heard before.
like on key.
And Denise is kind of tripping out like, boy, you're really getting into this.
And
I'm like, I don't know what's happening.
I know both of these songs.
And then Kim Clement goes, there are some of you out there who are wondering how you knowthe words to these songs.

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You've never heard them before.
You've never heard of me.
You've never heard my songs and yet here you are singing these songs.
The Lord says you are having a future memory.
You have been in this event before.
Weeks ago you came here in the spirit and you saw this concert and you went back andthat's why you're singing these songs and I was like oh my god are you kidding me?

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uh It was the craziest thing ever.
uh Deja vu.
Yeah I guess I'd call that deja vu.
That's amazing.
I first got saved, that's how God spoke to me a lot.
And I guess I just used it as like, uh I'm on the right track.

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I didn't know how else to, I didn't have a grid for it.
I was pretty young.
uh And so that was something like if I felt like, I've been here.
I've been in this moment before, not been in this place before.
Yeah, that's how I took it.
Awesome.
mean, that's the little deja vu thing where you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
I've been here.
I talked to you.

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We already had this conversation.
Right.
Like, is that like the breadcrumb or God's telling you?
Yes, you're on the right trail.
Just keep going.
Just keep going.
Just keep going.
Follow the red crumbs.
Yeah.
switching gears a little bit to pick up on something you talked about with Loretta Lynchand all of that nice cast of characters, very nice people, I'm sure.

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Are the Q posts still relevant today?
gosh yes and no.
right yes and no um here's here's my perspective on the Q-posts and I'll break it downinto two general statements.
um There are many subjects that Q talked about and Q-posts have

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Some of these posts have a specific reference only to an event that happened at the timethat the post was dropped.
So let me give you an example.
January 13th, 2018.
If you're living on the island of Hawaii, your phone went off with an alert of an incomingballistic missile that was going to uh kill you.

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And for about a half hour, everybody on the island of Hawaii thought they were going todie.
And then it turned out that this was a false missile alert and the missile never actuallykilled anybody.
And Q dropped a post that day talking about a scare necessary event.

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And it was related to the Hawaiian false missile alert, specifically to that day.
Right now today, there are thousands of people on social media saying that there is ascare necessary event coming because they have taken that post out of context and they

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think it's something that's gonna happen in the future and it's not.
It already happened.
Here's another example.
10 days darkness.
There's a lot of talk on social media every time there's a little hint about power goingout, internet going down.
People say, oh, 10 days darkness, it's coming.
told us it's coming.

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10 days darkness already happened.
From December 25th to January of 2017 to January 4th of 2018, Q went dark for 10 days.
And on the very last day that he posted on December 25th, he actually started the 10 daycountdown on that day, his last post before he went dark.

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So the 10 days darkness already happened.
It's not a future event.
Watch the water.
There's people on social media talking about, watch the water.
You know, Sky Event, all these famous posts from Q.
Watch the Water was a specific post in the first week of March, 2018, when Trump wassecretly negotiating with Kim Jong-un to meet with him in Singapore at this big uh resort.

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the Watch the Water post was specific to uh two photos.
one of Kim Jong-un and one of Kim Jong-il, his father, and they were both standing infront of a picture of water.
And a nun posted these two photos side by side and Q said, watch the water.
So the watch the water post specifically refers to that event.

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It's not something coming in the future.
So.
Bridge collapse.
It's not all those things.
not, you know, and this river overflowed its banks.
Q said, watch the water.
Most of those phrases that people are using from old Q posts had a specific application toan event happening at that time.

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And there is no future event coming that that event refers to.
uh At least not as far as we know.
Whenever there are double meanings for many posts.
ah But when there's a double meaning for something someone will post it on the board and Qwill say correct Interpretation double meanings exist if Q confirms a double or triple

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meaning then we know it refers to more than one thing a Good example is hunt for redOctober hunt for red October Not only does it have more than one meaning it actually has a
couple of iterations red October by itself Was a Russian steel plant?
uh And there's a thread on that stuff.

(01:12:32):
But if there's a double meaning, Q always confirms for us, yes, this is the intended othermeaning for this thing.
And all these other, know, the 10 days darkness, watch the water, uh sky event, none ofthem have a confirmed double meaning.
So in that sense, uh there's a lot of Q posts that I think do not have a current relevantuh application.

(01:12:58):
Now, having said all that, if you take all the subjects a queue posted about in thealmost, almost 5,000 posts, by far, there are more posts about Spygate than any other
subject.
It was the most frequently posted about subject of all.

(01:13:21):
And so the Spygate posts are coming back around because now,
that Cash Patel is head of FBI and Pam Bondi is at DOJ, John Ratcliffe is at CIA, andwe're getting all this declassification.
Thank you Tulsi Gabbard.
A lot of the Spygate posts are coming back around.
Like for example, I posted last night on X, here's tonight's homework.

(01:13:45):
It's an old post from Q from 2018 about the 13 people in the Obama administration thatused private email addresses, right?
Loretta Lynch.
ah
James Brennan, John uh Clapper and Comey, Rubiki, ah James Baker, Susan Rice, all thosepeople, John McCain, they all use private email addresses.

(01:14:08):
And John Solomon has been dropping some bombshells about Rubiki and his use of privateemails to leak information to the press as authorized by James Comey.
So.
I wouldn't say all the queue posts, they're not relevant anymore.

(01:14:28):
The Spygate ones are coming back around for sure.
It's good to go and review those and just kind of look at them and get refreshed because alot of these people are gonna end up getting prosecuted.
So ah that's a short answer to your question.
Do you think we'll hear from Q again like, or has that time passed?

(01:14:49):
The utility for Q has passed and we're in another, another phase.
I think we're in another phase, but it's, I'm not gonna say Q is not going to return.
And there's a couple of reasons why I say that.
So in 2018, 2019, 2020, we, the Anons, the researchers on the board, we're doing a lot ofresearch.

(01:15:18):
We're digging into all the things that Q is posting about, connecting the dots.
doing open source research, finding open source information, posting it, helping people towake up to the realities of institutional corruption.
Q's operation at bottom was an exposure of institutional corruption.

(01:15:40):
That's what it's all about.
And in that early phase of the operation, we were all digging and posting articles andvideos and online information, helping people see what's going on.
Now, we are, I think we're approaching the justice phase of the operation.
So in, whereas in 2017, 2018, 2019, the deep state was in control of FBI, DOJ and CIA, wecould only expose the information if we could find open source corroboration of it.

(01:16:20):
Now we have cash, Pam Bondi, Kelsey Gabbard.
John Ratcliffe, they're declassifying the information and making criminal referrals andholding grand jury investigations.
And we're probably going to see these people indicted.
So now we're into this justice phase.
We don't have to do all the digging anymore.

(01:16:41):
We don't have to connect the dots with open source information.
They're giving us declassified information.
They're painting the picture for us.
And it's going to lead to uh criminal prosecution.
So it's a different phase.
Now, having said that, the second to the last post by Q and Anand said, hey Q, it's a timefor a question and answer session.

(01:17:05):
Q said, planned for a future event.
So Q, a few years ago, back in 2022, was planning on a Q and A session in the future.
That's number one.
Number two, there's a whole bunch of.
placeholders that need to be filled out.
So the placeholders with respect to SpyGate, Q has a private board called Project DECOMS.

(01:17:38):
It is a read-only board.
Anons cannot comment on that board.
Q is the only one who can post on it.
Over the time of the operation, Q has used this private board as a place to post
general information uh that we're supposed to know about.
uh Currently on that board, project D comes, there's only two posts.

(01:18:03):
There have been hundreds and what Q will do is Q will post oh a drop on this board andthen two or three or four or five or 10 more.
And then after a period of time, they'll all be erased.
Okay.
And then QO start posting more posts on that board.
Currently on Q's private board, all the drops have been erased except for two.

(01:18:28):
And they both pertain to SpyGate and they're both about placeholders.
And one of the placeholders is specifically about indictments.
And there's a bunch of spaces.
I think there's six lines that are just blank lines.
And one of them is filled in and has Kevin Kleinsmith.
Kevin Kleinsmith

(01:18:49):
was a FBI attorney.
He's the only person so far prosecuted successfully for his involvement in Spygate.
He was charged with a 1001 lying, uh giving false, making false statements charge.
ah Yes, he was the only person who uh pled guilty or was convicted in Durham'sinvestigation.

(01:19:15):
uh
The other two people that were charged were Danchenko and Sussman, Michael Sussman.
They were both acquitted.
So on that placeholder, Kevin Clansmith is there.
There's a whole bunch of lines for more names.
I wouldn't be surprised if Q comes back and starts filling in some names as people areindicted and convicted.

(01:19:37):
And there's placeholders that refer to, I think, military trials and civilian trials.
And there's also placeholders that allude to Supreme Court challenges and other issues.
So there are some things that Q may want to come back and fill in some blanks for us.

(01:20:01):
Maybe, I don't know.
I'm not making like a hard prediction Q is coming back.
I think there's reasons why Q might come
And what about that famous Q post, which I might botch, but it's something like the returnto Twitter, these words exactly, the storm is upon us.
What about that?
it yep oh gosh we're all waiting for that tweet yeah the tweet is look to Twitter exactlythis my fellow Americans the storm is upon us ah I've been waiting we've all been waiting

(01:20:36):
for that tweet for like what seven years now ah it hasn't dropped yet could it drop itcould ah and
You know, there's been people spitballing, you know, ideas about like, is it going to beDan Scavino?
Cause Trump got suspended off of Twitter for a long time.
And we're all like, well, maybe Scavino will be the one to drop the tweet.

(01:20:58):
is that tweet coming?
Uh, perhaps.
Um, what is it?
What does it signify?
Um, we have all sort of thought that it would signify the beginning of the real battle.
Um,
to take down the deep state, the storm is upon us.
um It'll be interesting to see if that tweet drops.

(01:21:22):
If it does, there's gonna be a whole lot of people that are gonna be throwing popcorn andbeer, and there's gonna be a whole lot of deep staters who are gonna be probably soiling
their underwear.
That's right.
Absolutely.
Do you think, so do you think it's going to come from Trump?
Does the post itself indicate that it should come from Trump?

(01:21:43):
What about that Q account on Twitter?
no, yeah, there's no specific reference that has to come from Trump.
Although, uh, it seems likely that he would be the one to tweet it.
If anyone's going to tweet it, it would probably be him.
uh What has got you most excited about where we are politically right now?

(01:22:06):
I know that you have done a lot into the spy gate.
Spy gate is coming back around.
John Solomon.
mean, that man is just swimming in the best news ever, every day.
Where's your head on all that?
Uh, I am extremely optimistic, very optimistic.

(01:22:28):
I was, I'm not going to say that I was blackpilled back in 2021, but 2021 was a verydifficult year for a lot of us.
Um, when the election was stolen and Trump got, you know, removed from the office and thenthey tried to put him in prison.

(01:22:50):
All of the criminal cases and the civil cases are brought against Trump us most of usgetting banned from YouTube Facebook X um It was It was a difficult couple of years um I
Never lost hope um I always felt that that it was going to be a difficult season.

(01:23:15):
We'd have to get through but that
I thought Trump had a good chance to get back in the White House.
Did the midterms crush you?
Did the midterms just crush you in 22?
Or you were already like past, you were kind of past it by then?
I was really kind of wrapped up in the Arizona midterm elections because that's when KerryLake was running for governor.

(01:23:40):
And I was really following a lot of our local Arizona election hoopla, which, you know, asa lot of us are finding out our elections are rigged way more than we realize.
So I I was, I was pissed off.
Mm-hmm.

(01:24:01):
the way that the election went down in 2020 and then in 2022.
I was like, man, we have got to change this system.
We have to change these elections.
We've got to get some some new people in.
But the encouraging thing that I kept on seeing that whole time was I saw the Democratspolicies moving further and further left and further left and further more woke.

(01:24:24):
and embracing the trans LGBTQ issues and the DEI and all the woke nonsense.
What I could see was, oh, these people are doubling down on stupid, which means the nextelection we're probably going to win.
And when I saw...
this continual progression of sliding further and further into communism.

(01:24:49):
I was like, you people really are dumb.
You don't know what you're doing.
You should be moving back to the center, but they're not.
They're moving further left and that's why they lost a lot of seats in the White House in2024.
I was cautiously optimistic that Trump would get back in.
I was praying that when he got back in he would not hire all these deep staters in hiscabinet like he had in the first administration and sure enough um He's got a stellar team

(01:25:21):
of people around him in his cabinet this time and when I when I heard that cash Patel Wasnominated for FBI.
I was like it's game over if cash gets in if he's confirmed
cash, knows where the bodies are buried.
was, you know, Devin Nunes, right-hand man during Spygate.

(01:25:43):
He knows all the ins and outs of that, that nonsense.
If anyone's going to get to the bottom of it and hold people accountable, it's going to becash.
So when, when he got in at FBI, I was like, okay, we got it shot here.
And then John Ratcliffe went in as CIA director and I was like, I trust John Ratcliffe.
I've been following him for years during Spygate stuff.
He was there in Congress.

(01:26:05):
uh grilling Comey and all the slime balls, uh trying to bring transparency andaccountability to all that.
So when I saw Trump putting these people in at the top of these agencies, I was like, wegot a good chance.
And as soon as when Ratcliffe made those first two criminal referrals to the DOJ forBrennan and Comey, I was like, all right, it's game on.

(01:26:30):
We're going to have prosecutions and we're going to have arrests.
and I've been feeling very, good ever since then.
Amazing.
Do you feel like we've had a first arrest or first arrest, the first, the Q first arreststill pending?
Okay.
And Q confirmed it.
So there's some old posts where Q talked about the first arrest and the first indictment.

(01:26:56):
It's two different incidents.
And ah one of them refers to the beginning of a mass population awakening.
The other one refers to ah that it'll signal ah future actions.
So.
We already have confirmation from Q that Ghislaine Maxwell was the first arrest and KevinClinesmith was the first indictment.

(01:27:24):
And when that was posted, people began pushing back saying, that's not gonna create masspopulation awakening.
That's not gonna do anything.
And Q actually pushed back and said, look, don't use your way of thinking, your...

(01:27:44):
rationale to say that this isn't going to create a mass awakening, mass awareness of theproblem.
One arrest leads to another leads to another.
uh Human trafficking is the one issue that unites all of mankind.
Democrat, Republican, doesn't matter.
And here's the interesting thing.

(01:28:05):
Most of us were thinking this is kind of BS at the time, like Clinesmith and BlaineMaxwell.
Okay.
Well.
Um, one of the two most talked about subjects on social media right now, Epstein andSpygate Epstein because of Ghislaine Maxwell, Spygate is related to Kevin Klein Smith.

(01:28:31):
So it cues prediction that the indictment of Klein Smith and the arrest of GhislaineMaxwell would lead to mass awakening awareness of these issues was actually correct.
because now uh the House Oversight Committee under Comer is going to bring in and have uhBill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, four past uh attorneys general, FBI directors.

(01:28:58):
They're all gonna be, they're all been subpoenaed and they're all gonna have to come inand testify about what they know about Epstein.
And there could potentially be a lot of information come out of those hearings.
I don't, I'm not making any predictions, but it could.
The other issue with Clientsmith, he was the only successful indictment and there aregonna be more indictments.

(01:29:19):
So again, it's interesting to me that what we all kind of dismissed at the time as thefirst arrest and first indictment and Q saying, one leads to another leads to another,
hang in there over time, you're gonna see that these are gonna be the two big issues.
This is actually proven out to be correct.
Do you think that the Epstein Island saga as it's understood kind of in the truthcommunity is really what it's been made out to be or do you think it's a daisy chain into

(01:29:50):
the rest of those worlds of child trafficking?
If that makes sense.
I don't have enough information to make an educated guess on that.
I think that
think a lot of really bad stuff happened on Epstein Island.
ah I don't know that we're ever going to get any clarity or closure or further disclosureon those issues because it looks like ah the four years when President Trump was out of

(01:30:29):
office, it looks like that whole information chain was poisoned.
Trump keeps on telling us that it was all that information was in the hands of peoplelike, you know, uh, the, deep staters at FBI, CIA and DOJ.

(01:30:51):
And somehow they poisoned that evidence and Trump keeps on telling people, we need to moveon.
It's a hoax that this information was in the hands of the wrong people and it's only goingto incriminate innocent people if you keep pulling on this thread.
let's move on.
ah I doubt that we're ever going to get ah official closure or revelation.

(01:31:14):
I just, think that it's probably too late for that.
I like to think that similar to Spygate, em the criminals who were doing the bad behavioron Epstein Island, it was not the only place, the only time that they did bad behavior and
they will be gotten somewhere else.
And this is what Ed Martin has said.

(01:31:34):
So Ed Martin, ah if you don't know him, he is uh like Marco Rubio, who has four jobs inthe administration.
Ed Martin is multitasking like crazy right now.
He is president Trump's pardon attorney.
ah He is also head of the weaponization.

(01:31:57):
So there's a Trump setup through the DOJ.
a government weaponization work group.
Ed Martin is heading that, but he's also special counsel investigating Adam Schiff andLetitia James for their mortgage fraud allegations.
And uh he said something very interesting in an interview about a week ago.

(01:32:21):
said, the interviewer asked Ed Martin, so are you interviewing Adam Schiff?
Are you interrogating him or investigating him only for mortgage fraud?
And he said, no, he says absolutely not.
uh You know, people who are liars lie about many different areas of their life.
People who steal, steal in many different aspects.

(01:32:43):
People who are corrupt and corrupt in many different ways.
So mortgage fraud is just the beginning when you do a special counsel investigation.
It gives you access to all other areas of the subject's life.
So we're going to be digging into everything.
So beautiful.
So, you know, people are like, Adam Schiff, you know, he needs to go down for some otherthings.

(01:33:05):
Like, well, you know what, just hang on.
Mortgage fraud is the start.
It's probably going to lead to some other things.
And I think a lot of these people who were involved with Epstein, if they were involved inany kind of child abuse, child trafficking, they're probably going to get wrapped up in
some other charge.

(01:33:27):
I think a lot of these people...
are involved in many different uh criminal enterprises and they're going to get snared inone of them.
Yeah, I'm hopeful.
Just to switch gears.
Well, one, you've been super generous with your time and I don't want to hold you hostage,but I did want to touch on something else.

(01:33:47):
Our mutual friend, Joanne Pappas, wrote a review of your new book and you want to flag itup there?
yet.
And so I was just wondering, did you know that you had a sci-fi book inside of you?
Or was that also a surprise?
Alright, well, um no I did not know I had a sci-fi book inside of me.

(01:34:13):
I got hooked on science fiction when I was uh young, as a teenager, thanks to theinfluence of my older brother, Patrick.
who was, he was a big science fiction fan and he influenced me.
I read the foundation trilogy by Isaac Asimov in a single weekend.
I all three books.

(01:34:34):
just plowed right through them.
And I really loved science fiction when I was younger.
Didn't, I never really fancied myself as a writer.
And then when I began writing books I never saw myself writing fiction.
I thought I would just write non-fiction books.

(01:34:55):
um You know, how to hear God's voice, how to see in the spirit, emotional healing.
I like instructional books.
But then again, you know, God has his plans and we have ours.
so he gave me this dream two and half, maybe almost three years ago, where...

(01:35:16):
He gave me the entire storyline for these books, the science fiction series.
In one dream, I had this entire arc of a guy going to a planet out there doing some stuff.
uh The storyline involved a technology that a lot of us called Project Looking Glass.

(01:35:39):
uh So the book, my first science fiction novel, Obturious,
Yes, it incorporates a technology similar to project looking glass in the story becausethat was in the dream that God gave me.
So I was like, oh gosh, I guess I have to start writing some science fiction because Godgave me this dream.

(01:36:02):
I did not see it coming.
And then when he gave me the dream, I was like, all right, I'm gonna start working on it.
So two and a half years ago, I began the research on,
I picked a red dwarf star called Trappist-1.

(01:36:23):
I did a bunch of research on this solar system.
It's a very small solar system and a very small, um the sun, Trappist-1 is very smallcompared to our sun.
And it's a red dwarf and it actually exists.
And the solar system has a number of planets that are in what,
scientists believe is a habitable zone where there's two or three planets that couldactually support human life ah and have a potentially an oxygen atmosphere.

(01:36:51):
So I based the stories on that solar system that actually exists.
And after having read C.S.
Lewis's Space Trilogy, I thought, yeah, I can do this.
I've got the chops.
I'll take a swing at it.
I spent some time writing the science fiction novel.
And of course, if you know me, if you read my books, uh I can't stop teaching about Godand the supernatural.

(01:37:19):
So um the thesis of this book, Obturius, is that
It's a living planet.
It is alive, it is sentient, and it has plans.
And so these cats go and visit this planet and they have an encounter with a veryinteresting, living, breathing, intelligent planet.

(01:37:45):
And I won't spoil it for you, but it's an interesting story.
Awesome.
Well, and it's available on Amazon.
It is available on Amazon and actually all my Q books are available on Amazon now as well.
We republished the books that got blacklisted back in 2021.

(01:38:07):
We republished them under new titles.
So Q Chronicles, book one, two, three and four, they're all available on Amazon as well asOcturias.
it's available on amazon uh...
ebook is available on all the you get the paperback and bars and noble if you don't likeamazon and ebook is available on all ebook platforms um

(01:38:31):
It's available and there will be two more books coming out in this series.
I've got them, the draft manuscripts for the other two books are already written.
I wrote all three at the same time so that I wouldn't have to do any retrogradecontinuity.
The stories flow seamlessly, all three of them ah in the series.

(01:38:53):
So, well, I kind of – you might be answering my next and close to last question, butwhat's next?
It sounds like you've got these books coming out.
You've got – I'm sure –
book.
uh Denise is hammering away on her computer working on the marriage book.
The marriage book is gonna be uh alternating chapters where she is writing from herperspective and I write from my perspective and then back to her and back to me and back

(01:39:21):
to her and back to me.
So I tentatively titled Love and Marriage Made Simple.
That'll be the next book coming out.
And then maybe a book on spiritual warfare after that.
Maybe a fifth Q book.
I think I have a fifth Q book coming out too.

(01:39:42):
Awesome.
I was going to say I just got like a little flash and maybe it was Holy Spirit, but Ithink you and Denise might end up doing some kind of a duo podcast, some kind of broadcast
where you give ah not opposing perspectives, but your own perspectives that would berelated to marriage.
So maybe your marriage uh counseling thing, maybe your marriage workshop has legs in adifferent form.

(01:40:06):
Well, she has floated the idea of jumping on some streams, whether it's a live stream or arecorded broadcast, to share her insights on a couple of subjects.
She's really interested in politics and Spygate stuff.

(01:40:30):
So she may be adding her commentary on that.
On the last Supernatural Saturday, she actually came on as a listener and raised her handand I had her come on and she was offering her perspective on some things.
We could see some more of her weighing in on some subjects in the coming days, especiallythe marriage thing because marriage is a big deal for her.

(01:40:52):
Relationships is a big deal for her.
So we may get her on microphone in the coming days.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Well, I'm looking forward to that.
And just a reminder to people where they can find all of your resources.
um All of that is available on your website, prayingmedic.com.
m
Yep, PrayingMedic.com and PrayingMedic.org are the two websites.

(01:41:16):
Okay, and you have Supernatural Saturdays where you're praying for people.
That's so amazing.
um Talking to people about helping them kind of understand um spiritual realities in realtime.
Yep, Supernatural Saturdays are recorded on my Telegram channel because that's reallywhere my tribe is.

(01:41:37):
After I got booted off of X by the previous owners, uh I went to Telegram and created amassive community there.
And so I do live streams there second Saturday of the month at 1 p.m.
Eastern.
And if you find my Telegram channel and you want to get on the live streams.
Jump on the livestream, raise your hand, and I do question and answer ah for a couple ofhours on the second Saturday of every month.

(01:42:04):
Awesome.
Dave, thank you so much for all that you're doing, just the insight that you have thatyou're sharing with the body of Christ and people who are just looking for answers um on
such a wide range of topics.
I just appreciate you so much and I know so many others do as well.
I know you've prayed for my sister over in Nashville.

(01:42:25):
You've prayed for so many people and um it's just such a blessing.
How can we be praying for you?
Gosh, well, thank you, first of all, Danielle.
All right, here's how I need prayer, what I need prayer for.
We are receiving inquiries from people who are interested in potentially turning some ofour stuff into films and TV shows.

(01:42:56):
And I'm just asking people if they would be praying into that.
uh praying for direction, praying for funding.
um All of this stuff requires money and funding.
We want the right people to come along and fund it, who would preserve the story the wayit's supposed to be told.

(01:43:19):
So yeah, you could pray for that.
uh We would cover your prayers on those issues.
All right, well, let me pray for us right now.
I want to pray that prayer while we have all these people in the chat who can join handswith us and then I will let you go.
uh Jesus, thank you so much for Dave and Denise.
I pray that you would um fling wide the doors that you have for them, God, doors offunding, doors of new opportunity and doors that lead to people.

(01:43:52):
who love you, who love the story that you're telling and it will be true to it becauseyou're the author behind these books.
So I pray that for Dave and for Denise and that you would bless them and so many amazingnew things would come out of this.
Yeah, in your name we pray, Jesus.
Amen.

(01:44:13):
Amen.
Thanks, Danielle
Awesome, Dave.
Thank you so much.
And of course, I would love to have you back on again.
I really appreciate you being with me and being so patient and giving with your time.
I have so many questions for you.
So I just enjoyed it so much.
I'd be happy to come back on the show.

(01:44:34):
Awesome.
Well, thank you.
I'll follow up with you on that.
God bless.
All right.

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