FLF: #16 Delivering the Truth Comes at a Cost w/ Joe Hoft

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Well, hello everybody.
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Well, I'm your host Danielle Walker and on this show we meet people who have rejected thestatus quo.
who've broken with convention and each in their own way are working to bring freedom tothe world.
Joining me today is my friend and a regular guest on The State of Freedom, Joe Hoft.
And as many of you know, Joe's professional background is in the world of corporate auditand finance.

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He's been at the forefront of the truth movement as an author and commentator since atleast the Obama years calling Robert Mueller and the Russia.
gate hoax, what they were when few others would dare to do that.
And he's the author of six books, including a three volume set on the 2020 election heistthat's received accolades from President Trump himself.

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Welcome to the show, Joe.
Hey, thanks.
Thanks for having me.
Great to be here.
Thank you for coming.
Well, you know, I love to start the show by framing it out with scripture.
So today I'd ask, I always ask the Lord for this show specifically, well, for all theshows, what scripture to bring.
And this is the one he drew me to for today.

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It's Psalm chapter 27 verses one through three.
And it says, the Lord is my revelation light to guide me along the way.
He's the source of my salvation to defend me every day.
I fear no one.
I'll never turn back and run from you, Lord.
Surround and protect me.
When evil ones come to destroy me, they will be the ones who turn back." And Joe, I'm sureyou know why the Lord brought that scripture up.

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You have been targeted for being a voice of unwavering truth, and we don't need to getinto the particulars of that.
But I did want to mention it as a point of fact and just encourage you that this scripturein particular
um is a shield to be used as a weapon.
Well, that's that's really cool.
That's so cool.
So much to talk about, Danielle.

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I just, you know, for your listeners and those watching it's before the show, Danielledoes a prayer and that's just really, really awesome.
And it's just what a nice way to set the tone.
I was thinking as you were praying today, I once had a challenging situation I was goingthrough in my life and I was talking to my mom who's now passed away.

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um And I said, well, I guess I can always pray for this person.
And my mom said something I've never forgotten.
I'm sharing it today.
She said, well, that's the best thing you can do is pray for somebody.
she put it all back in perspective.
This isn't just a physical presence here on earth.

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This is a spiritual battle.
And uh those weapons of prayer.
m are really, really um lethal against evil.
And so I appreciate you, you know, starting this off with a prayer and a scripture andit's just perfect.
So thanks.
Absolutely.

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Well, I hope it's an encouragement to you.
think it, you know, for me, it started out, um the Lord is the one who drew me into doingthis in the first place.
So I said, well, I don't know what the heck I'm doing.
So you better, you better guide me, Lord.
So the, know, it started out from that point.
And of course, on the political side, uh we started out with scriptures.

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um That was an early uh finding of common ground for me and Chris after we met was just
our love of the scriptures.
And it's been so interesting because it's become like a vital point for us to start outwith scripture so that we can kind of keep things ah civil, know, keep our heads on

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straight because you can kind of go, you can go cuckoo if you don't start out withsomething that grounds you, if you don't have like a home base.
It's very easy to get disillusioned and blackpilled and all of that.
actually one of the things that I was wondering, Joe, and you kind of alluded to it, buthave you always been a person of faith?

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Because it seems like that's something you carry very close to you, but I'm wondering, hasthat always been the case?
That's a question.
um I was talking to some guys about it this morning.
um And it was like, you know, I grew up in a big family, nine kids.
I guess we can jump into this right away.

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um My parents had nine kids.
My mom was Catholic.
My dad wasn't.
My dad grew up in a Protestant family and he had two sisters that were missionaries.
this, my dad's passed away as well.
Both my parents...
uh
born a long time ago.
As a matter of fact, Jim and I had this big event last couple of weeks ago, now it's earlyAugust and like the 10th or whatever, it was the 9th, actually Saturday the 9th was really

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the first big day and I spoke at the event and I reminded Jim as I was speaking that thatwould have been our mom's 100th birthday.
So uh kind of put age as me as well but.
It was a real special day because we had this event where we brought in Rudy Giuliani,who's been all over the news, General Flynn, Roger Stone, Laura Logan, oh glued it all

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together with her presence and she emceed the event.
She was just incredible.
David Clements was there.
uh Christina Bob, Simone Gold.
The list just went on and on of these great Americans.
And we changed the name of it to vindicated about a month before, because that's whenTulsi Gabbard came out and said, Hey, I'm referring this information to the DOJ.

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And, um, so was like, we're finally being vindicated.
We've been sharing this stuff for years and, been told we're conspiracy, been attacked,like you said, in every way imaginable and, um, every way.
And then, um, we, you know, it's because we're sharing the truth.
Yeah.
and, and we had a dinner on that Friday, the night before, and I talked about it.

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I shared this and everybody cheered and I was like, wow, that was, that was a neat thingto say, I guess.
But it was, um, it was basically, this is it.
It's the truth and God versus, you know, versus evil and evil hates the truth.
And, and that's what we stand for all of us, you know, whether it be Rudy Giuliani, know,Roger Stone, General Flynn, whoever, Gateway Pundit.

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It's a, we're standing for the truth and there's no other way.
You know, there, there is no other way.
And, uh, and you read in the Bible too about, know, I think Jesus said this, right?
You stand for me or maybe St.
Paul or whatever.
You're going to get attacked.
You are going to get attacked in this world.
And we have been attacked ruthlessly at times.
I think in my God, are the Nazis running the show?

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Is it Nazis or communists?
What is going on?
As we watched Trump.
You know, nearly get killed, nearly put in prison for life.
On all, every, every charge was a lie.
He did nothing wrong.
They could not find a thing on this guy.
And, um, so yeah, it's, we're in a battle and I love being on this side.

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I'm, I don't have any regrets.
That's, that's my belief.
So, um, but yeah, it wasn't always this way.
I guess I grew up Catholic, went through a
great Catholic school system up in Fort Dodge, Iowa, Fort Dodge.
I've shared the story with a friend in Australia.
I used to go there so much for work.
had friends down there and he said, Fort Dodge, you know, can't believe that's the name ofa city.

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went to the Catholic school there and all of my siblings, we all graduated from the sameschool.
Our mom was a staunch, I shouldn't say staunch, that's not the word, a very saintly woman.
And today I believe she was a saint.
She prayed for our family for years.
Our family suffered, uh, growing up.
Our dad was alcoholic and he was violent.

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And so, um, that's what we grew up with.
When you're in it, you, you know, you don't like it at times, but you don't know any otherway really.
And you keep it quiet.
You don't share it with people outside your family.
So my brothers and I were real close, Jim and I, my twin brother real close.
And yet outside the family, were, uh,

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you know, known as really good kids and, and, you know, to excelled, uh, I knew a kid whosaid to me, man, my mom used to say, why can't you be more like those Hoff boys, you know?
And, um, so, but, then, uh, unfortunately, uh, my, my, myself and my siblings fell intothis pattern of alcohol and, um, addiction and, um, which probably isn't too surprising.

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Not many people in that situation that I grew up in are able to escape it.
And although incredible kids, just a beautiful kid, and I shared this this morning too,when I started drinking, I started lying because I can't tell mom, hey, I'm out drinking

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with my buddies, you know, when we're not of age.
So that came together and I always ignored that as...
insignificant or what else you gonna do, but if you don't drink, you don't have to lie,you know, and that was synonymous for me with drinking.
There was this connection and my moral compass was changed immediately with that firstdrink because I couldn't tell mom and be honest with her.

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and she, you know, loved her boys.
She loved us and we went through.
Quite a bit, and I'd say our family was as broken as a family could be for alcohol andaddiction, as bad as it could be.
I'm not kidding you.
uh It just, was really bad.
And I guess I won't get into details today on some of that, but suffice it to say that thefamily was pretty broken and really due to alcohol.

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There was one piece of glue that I think in the middle of it was my mom, kind of likeLaura Logan in our event, just was the MC.
She knew everybody, she knew everybody's story, and she loved everybody.
And she was perfect.
She's great at what she does.
You know, she's world-class anyways, having been on like 20, 20 or 60 minutes or whatever.
Just incredible.

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That's what my mom was like, you know, with our family, I believe.
And you know, there's nine siblings there.
And everybody has their own perceptions, which is wild, even in the same family.
em yeah, and uh I didn't appreciate her until I got clean.
And through a series of miracles, our family, and I believe my mom's prayers, uh yearsago, decades ago, miracles happened.

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And over about a year and a half period of time, our family found sobriety.
And, um, and today has hundreds of years, hundreds of years of sobriety with myself and mysiblings.
So that process has taught me about miracles and that they happen, you know, we can getdown, we can be discouraged.

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We can, uh, you know, feel broken and certainly there's reasons for that.
Some days it's tough.
Some days are tough.
No matter what you're doing.
and how good you are and how much you've got it together.
Life can be challenging, to say the least.
uh But miracles happen.

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I've seen a miracle.
I've seen six.
Me and my five siblings have found a new life.
uh And years ago, decades ago.
And so I've talked to people.
never met anybody with this much sobriety in a family, immediate family as me.
And I've been around the world.

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I've been around the world.
So.
all nine siblings um in good shape and, you know, walking the right path?
well, I've got two that's passed and passed and I've got uh one who's now she's old andshe's getting like forgetful Alzheimer's.

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And yeah, so the ones that are still functioning are doing great.
That's absolutely amazing.
And what an encouragement to people who, know, there's this lie that says there's alwaysone, there's always one in the family.
There doesn't have to be, there doesn't have to be.
Your mom's prayers prove that.
No, I'm just saying the black sheep, know, you think that there, people say that there'salways one, you know, there's one in every family.

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And that's a lie.
That's an absolute lie of the enemy.
nah.
We loved each other.
grew up with a lot of love, even through that, you know, through really some horrificcircumstances.
We just loved each other, cared each other.
I didn't want to my brother's hurt.
That's the last thing I did.
We got into sports in high school.
We were really pretty good.
My brother, Chris, was good a year older than us.
Had a name in the corner of the state in Iowa when we were in sports for running andstuff.

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We we were fast and that was fun.
And we, good students.
We're good kids, great kids.
then addiction can take over and destroy that.
And that's what it is.
It's evil.
It's evil, pure evil.
Evil versus good.
And that's, it's the lie.
It's a lie.
And in an addiction, you'll be told things like, well, you might as well go drink now.

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You've blown it anyways.
Well, it's too late.
Your life's over.
At age 23, I was thinking.
man, I've blown it, you know, I just have blown it.
And that was a lie.
It's all a lie.
It's just lie after lie after lie.
Might as well have another.
All these thoughts that might cross through your mind.
But it's a spiritual disease as much as anything.

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uh so oh that part has to be, you you need full recovery.
I don't know if I could say full.
You need God's, you know,
blessing, you need some strength and that's, it's inevitable, I think, and that's how itworks.

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And then great things can happen.
Great things.
Well, let's talk a little bit about where politics entered into the scene.
Did you grow up being politically aware or, and what would you say is your awakeningmoment?
um No, not really.
uh I can remember our dad and I've learned he and his family were Democrats and my mom andher family were Republicans.

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And Jim mentioned this to me the other day.
We have like a great grandmother and her twin brother who were named after two presidents,Maude and Claude.
And Jim was saying it was like Arthur B.
Hayes and
and Benjamin Harrison or something like that.

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So there were some Republican on part of the family as well.
think looking back at history, the Republican party was such a miracle to come out ofnowhere like they did.
And Lincoln to win, the Democrats were running this country and this country was reallygoing downhill.

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slavery, they're trying to push slavery then out to the rest of the
rest of the country with that Kansas Nebraska Act that really made people stop and say,no, we don't want this anymore.
And uh so I was, you know, proud to be from a state from Iowa up north where we could say,you know, hold this moral ground to like, hey, we were the ones that freed the slaves, you

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know?
So, um and I had some great, great grant, my great, great grandfather, my dad's dad's dador whatever.
was in the civil war and then the other side was well, they were either in Iowa or Ohio.
This one guy fought in the war.
He made it through like 20 battles and, um, my great, great grandfather, and then, thengot married for 50 years after that.

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So what a life.
So yeah, there's a picture of him with, with his son, his son and his son.
My, and my dad was the youngest and, uh, four generations.
this one picture, so yeah.
so politics went on both sides.

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I didn't really get it until probably, uh, the 1990s.
ran some people that were telling me more about, you know, challenging the beliefs that Iwas getting on TV.
Cause I, that's basically what I was getting.
I didn't have it.
I didn't know the difference between, you know,
Bush and Clinton.

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And quite frankly, now, as we look back, as after I've learned lately, maybe there was it,you know, you hear Romney or Obama or McCain or Obama, know, uh Bush or or Gore.
I thought there was a big difference there, but it was.

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who was getting the money at the time.
It was really no moral difference.
So, but I liked the idea that people were telling me about the Republican party and that'skind of started becoming more Republican.
then Jim in the early 2000s, our mom went and lived with him.
Our dad had passed and she was old and she was living with him and they'd sit down andwatch Fox every night and I'd go over there and see him and we'd watch Bill O'Reilly.

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Mm-hmm.
stuff like that.
And then that kind of helped solidify more our belief in conservatives more than anythingand belief.
I didn't like the media.
I didn't like what the media was doing.
That's when Jim started the Gateway Pundit around 2004.
then, um and he wrote because he thought the media wasn't being honest and they weren't.

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Hello.
And uh Bush was getting killed and he didn't know how to, he didn't know what to do withit.
And they just, and somehow he beat, he won that, his second election.
And, uh but John Kerry was a terrible choice.
I mean, just a radical lying communist.
And so, and I can back that up with that, uh that one book on him and the swift voters.

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It's like, this guy's a liar.
He got all these metals.
He says he was a liar.
He, he, he made me turn himself in for most of them, you know?
And some of them were joking.
That's what the book tells you is from the guys that were with them.
No, he didn't do that.
No, no, he was a crazy guy that came over to NAMM with a camera, you know, back in the1960s.

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He was, you know, crazy and nobody around him liked him.
And that's who was running against Bush.
uh But the media is really powerful.
Then we saw it really terrible on Bush.
Jim was writing at that time saying the good things that were happening.
that the media would never share, especially from overseas.

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then, and then Obama came in and then, you know, Jim was writing through that too.
He had a just small little website, not many viewers, you know, not many.
I'd maybe follow, he'd tell me about stories.
I'd check it out.
I didn't, I, you know, never imagined that it would grow to the size that it has.
Was he always doing it full time or did he do it part time?

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no, it's part time for at least 10 years.
So he started like 2004 and I, at the same time, I got, I got this position where I'mtraveling the world.
I'm for this corporation doing audits of all these businesses around the world.
Some that we were doing business with and some that were own.
And I had this, you know, got to see all these great cities, all our customers and, andbusinesses were in these.

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beautiful cities around the world.
mean, I can, I've been, so I went to London a number of times and Montreal a number oftimes.
Montreal was my first trip outside the U S and I was almost, you know, I was, I was in mythirties and then London a number of times and I've been to Madrid and Lisbon and other

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sites in Europe.
Then after that, just on personal, uh, South Africa a few times.
And Australia, probably spent a year of my life in Australia on business trips, NewZealand, India, Thailand, Singapore, Shanghai, Beijing, Tokyo.

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Yeah.
It, yeah, it was really cool.
It was really neat.
And then it lived in, it got an opportunity to move to Hong Kong.
So.
I did this work traveling and then there's an opportunity to take over the financials forthis international block and it's Asia Pacific block.
I, and I got that and, um, that was just a meat grinder for a couple of four years.

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All I did was work.
My friends are telling me, Joe, man, get something else.
I was doing his work and, um, did that for four years, learned a hell of a lot.
I ended up, uh, it was a couple of billion dollar.
block of business and everything had to be perfect.
It had to be perfect.
There was no, no choice in the matter.
It didn't matter how many hours you worked.

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Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
We care about your hours.
We don't care about your hours, Joe.
We want the numbers right.
And, um, and it was a meat grinder.
And then, uh, there was an opportunity to go over to, asked me if I'd want to go to HongKong to start a regional audit team over there.
So I was like, sure.
And, uh, it was great.
Spend a almost a decade there.

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That time, so I went over to Hong Kong in about 2011, Jim was still working and was stilldoing his blog, we called it.
And it got real big and the left still would call it a blog.
And it could be bigger than these sites that are calling it a blog.
St.
Louis Post-Dispatch would put a list of their local blogs and they stopped putting GatewayPundit on it because Gateway Pundit was getting more readership than maybe the

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host in certain days.
So it was like, you know, what a joke.
And, um, so it got big at around 2000 and I think about 2014, Jim just dropped the jobbecause he was, uh, making whatever twice as much on the website.
And he went full time with that.
And then about 2016, when Trump came along, we both fell in love with them.

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And we're talking about every day, uh,
pretty much at that time, I'm overseas.
That's when I started writing for him.
then uh that's, you know, so that's how I got involved and started writing about a post aday in 2016 and that point forward.
And then came back in 2020 and wrote full-time, can't wait upon it, um for some time too.

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So ah it sounds like your awakening was probably a slower uh burn than necessarily onething that just set you off down a path to say, yeah.
Yeah, I think it's probably like most people though, you meet somebody that just talks,that you respect and then they just talk common sense.

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And you're just like, well, that makes sense.
That's what I believe.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Why?
What's this other stuff?
I mean, really today, I don't know how anybody could jump on this Democrat train.
It's just, mean, and Trump keeps putting them in these terrible positions where he's sogood at it.
Maybe it's just a God thing.
It's just being blessed because

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These guys are fighting him, cleaning up the crime in their cities.
Something, something really weird happened here the last few days was that the head ofBowser, is that her name?
The head of DC who's married to Donna Brazil.
Did you know that?
Uh, yes.
Yeah.
And, uh, she's now coming out and saying, uh, we need to start working with the nationalguard.

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need to, know, because of course it's, it's so stupid.
to be on the other side of protecting people and their property.
What do you want?
You want them all to die?
Because basically that's what they do.
do.
Rudy Giuliani said this at this event we had, and it was profound.
Some of these guys are just profound, brilliant people.

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And he said, the only thing he thought that kept the Democrat party together with allthese factions, he says, is that they all hate America and want to destroy it.
That makes sense.
That's what holds them because they are insane and they don't agree on everything, butthey do agree on let's destroy America.

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And they're so bizarre.
Did you see yesterday that Senator, uh the idiot from New Jersey, uh Booker, just anidiot.
I think he's got the brain power of a mushroom, you know?
And he announced yesterday there's pictures of him with some girl.
He just engaged to her and there's these wonderful pictures.

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It's like, does anybody believe that?
Does anybody believe that he just got engaged to this girl?
mean, everything's a production.
It's just a bunch of, they're a bunch of weirdos.
And it goes on both sides.
That Senator from South Carolina, who's a Republican, that was appointed to his position,has been able to keep it ever since.

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Tim, Tim.
I see his face.
Oh darn.
decided he was going to run for president.
I remember McCarthy interviewing him at the State of the Union or something right afterthey stole the election from Trump in 2020.
Biden talks.
Yes.
And, and, and, and McCauley, is that his name?

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McCarvel interviews him and talks to him after it, cause, cause Tim Scott's going to givethe message.
They don't mention a thing about the stolen election.
They don't mention a
thing about the theft, about the January Sixers being in, you know, starting to be inprison, about that big lie, about everything that we just went through.
And when they're done, the people on Fox started saying, that Tim Scott, he's presidentialmaterial.

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It's like, give me, the guy, so he married this, this pretty white woman here, half, a fewyears back.
And I'm like, that's garbage.
I don't believe it at all.
I, you know, same with Booker.
I don't believe this stuff.
It's all just.
oh Who are you?
You know, it's gross, you know?
And you can see right through it, can't you?

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To me, I just don't believe it at all.
like, no.
Everything's a facade and a lie on the left.
And I don't understand why people want to put their personal lives out there that muchanyway.
I feel like your political stance, people, maybe your wife goes to some events orwhatever, but I don't understand why your whole life needs to be put on a silver platter

(29:56):
for the world to look at as if you're a reality TV star.
I think it's because they're running for office.
uh know, they want to paint this picture.
They want to paint a picture.
And it doesn't matter if it's true or not.
It's a picture.
Barack Obama was a great example.
You know, what a picture.

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And what a snake and vile person.
I was just thinking about him, Danielle, earlier today too, how, you know, that guy comesin, he gives, he bombs how many countries?
I don't remember 1713, something like that bombs.
He gives guns to Al Qaeda and then he gives billions to Iran.

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And that is the opposite of a peace president.
Trump comes in this time.
He's got about eight or 10 peace deals already.
He's trying to help Ukraine and Russia settle things.
think Russia wants to.
I think Ukraine is being managed by probably our CIA, our deep state.
And then.
uh
you know, European globalists and they want, they want a war.

(31:02):
They want a war.
And uh so it's, that's been a, maybe impossible for anybody to negotiate right now.
It's just because there's too much against them.
It's not, Trump's willing to help, but no.
there's so much money that's at stake.
That's what it all boils down to.
yeah.
And in Ukraine, it's even especially, they've got a lot of gas and oil and minerals andstuff there.

(31:27):
It's not, it's a pretty wealthy country despite the people being so poor.
aid for war stopped flowing in?
I know Trump made the Europeans start paying for the weapons.
If you want Ukraine to have weapons, you buy them.
So good.

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that, okay, yeah, sure.
Go ahead.
But you're going to have to buy the weapons.
We can supply them, but you got to pay for them.
And um that's all of a sudden they didn't want a war, right?
isn't that Trump's had to be so smart in everything that he does because these leftist,vile, dishonest, evil people like Jerome Powell, his assistant now, Lisa Cook at the Fed.

(32:13):
Mm-hmm.
Jim and I were talking about her.
She's just totally uh way, way under qualified for that position in the first place, letalone her crimes, mortgage crimes that we're finding out about.
She worth.
all of that has to be scratching the surface of what the real crimes are,
Right, right.

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And I think that I think it is, as a matter of fact, I've talked to Mark Fincham.
I don't know if you've had him on the show.
He's got he's got some some new information on this mortgage thing.
Another guy talked to was Jason.
oh What's Jason's last name out of New York?
He dug into Leticia and Weissman, and I sent him stuff on Schiff.

(32:57):
I got to tell you, Daniel, brag here a bit.
That Adam Schiff stuff was stuff I put up like two years ago.
A girl from California reached out to me with this stuff and I looked at it I go, she'sright.
And I put it up.
And I think that's the new news cycle, by the way.
Somebody has a great story.

(33:18):
They try to get it out.
They find gateway pundit quite, quite often.
We put it up and, and it goes viral.
And then maybe there's a
There's a waiting period like there was here with Schiff.
And then two years later, it's now real.

(33:39):
They're looking at it because it was real from the start.
Some of this stuff gets buried, which is really unfortunate, but a lot of it happens.
I thought about this the other day, this story on ActBlue and how they are churning moneylaundering for the Democrat Party.
That story was mine.

(33:59):
Again, it wasn't, I didn't, I didn't, there's some that I have, but this, this one too,guy named Chris Gleason in Florida sent me this stuff and I looked through it and again,
my background's in audit and finance.
I looked at much bigger numbers than these and, and, you know, I looked through it andthought, no, this is, this is legit.
And we had source, the source data was from the FEC, you know, the federal electionscommission, because everybody has to both.

(34:27):
Republicans, Democrats, I suppose other parties as well, have to funnel their giftsthrough the FEC.
It's the law.
So they have these big organizations for the DIMS, it's Act Blue, that they funnel allthis money then these reports to the FEC.
Well, what we found was that these elderly people, it's what we found out ultimately,James O'Keeffe found that after we put up this report, these people are donating small

(34:54):
amounts.
from across the country, sometimes like 10 donations a day to candidates maybe in anotherstate.
It didn't make sense.
And the mons were $100 range more or less.
And what's going on here?
So Keefe went out to meet some of these people and they're elderly that are beyondretirement age.

(35:14):
Don't probably most of them don't even have jobs.
And that's what, because you don't have to put down a, they ask your job if you got oneand they ended up.
We found, no, these people, 22 million was going to that Warnock in Georgia in hiselection.
22 million from across the country, money that was, it wasn't stolen from these people.

(35:35):
Their names were stolen.
These people should file, yes, they should file a class action against the DNC.
They'd make billions, billions.
because everybody whose name they took that maybe gave a donation once or maybe never did,somehow they got their information and they launder the money through these people into

(35:57):
the Democrat coffers.
And I think that Republicans are doing it too.
That's why Republicans aren't too keen on getting into this too much.
But the proportion is 101, I think.
I think, maybe it's 102.
But anyways, yeah, we uncovered that.
James O'Keefe went out and identified him.
That was the kind of stuff we put up at Gateway Pond that, you know, we had, you know, forme, it was like, well, I would look at this stuff and decide if I was comfortable with it

(36:26):
or not, because there's other people who send you stuff and it's garbage.
And it's like, I don't want to put that up, you know?
And you learn you don't have to.
you've been so courageous this whole time, Joe, like a voice in the wilderness, really.
um Where did that come from?
How did you get to the place?
Because you think about those psychological experiments that we learn about in schoolwhere everybody says the one thing and so it's impossible to say the truth because

(36:55):
everybody was planted to say the lie.
That's the world we've been living in for I don't know how long.
So to be the man that stands up and says the truth when it's extremely unpopular, how haveyou had the courage to do that?
Thanks for that compliment, really.
Thank you.

(37:15):
um I think it's because it's the truth.
So it's not, oh you know, it's just, this is the truth.
And so another example, early March, mid March of 2020, the whole world's freaking out.

(37:35):
Ted Ross from the WHO just came out and said, we're all going to die.
One out of 30 people is going to die.
3.4 % mortality.
Good luck.
We're all going to die.
Causes this major panic.
And, and we did some research on him.
Some people sent me some stuff.
Now he's a communist.
He's also a, he's also a terrorist.

(37:56):
He's part of a terrorist regime that owns, that's ruling a country in Africa.
He's one of like number four.
Yeah.
Which one?
Ethiopia?
Is it?
Yeah.
And, he's like fifth in line.
And somehow he gets this job at the WHO.
He's not a medical doctor.
And then we find out he's got ties to China, as well as his country, and um that they'vekilled people and stuff like that.

(38:25):
And it's...
No.
in Africa.
Yeah, he was the foreign minister when I was doing African government affairs.
Who are you with?
Why are you there?
to work with the US Chamber of Commerce back at end of, let's see, I started there in2007, 2008.

(38:48):
Yeah, and so I started working on Africa probably 2008.
yeah, right when Obama came in.
So pretty interesting time.
I traveled to Ethiopia with his US trade ambassador.
which is a very bizarre experience.
Did you feel safe?

(39:09):
in Africa or just generally?
Most of the time, yeah, I did.
I think there was a grace there for that.
There's also the grace of being young and not necessarily thinking everything through.
So I know that I had a lot of angelic protection looking back on things.

(39:32):
like, yeah, that could have been bad, but it wasn't.
it could have been.
Wow, that's wild.
You met him.
yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
And the former dictator of Ethiopia too.
I know, crazy.
Yeah.
Totally crazy.

(39:52):
I was in Hong Kong when I looked at those numbers and I said, he's not right, he's notbeing honest.
With the flu, they take everybody, they don't take just people that come into the hospitaland those that die from those that come into the hospital having flu.
uh They take an estimate of how many other people had the flu that they don't know about.
And then that's your population and the people you die, you do know is the ones in thehospital.

(40:17):
So the deaths are a smaller portion of the population.
Once you factor in an estimate of how many people have had it, they weren't doing thatwith COVID.
They took a thousand people that came into the hospital and they took whatever 30 that uhdied or whatever, it's, you whatever, you had to come up with the 3%.

(40:38):
And that's how they got their mortality rate.
They didn't gross it up for all the people that had COVID that didn't go to the hospital.
And I looked at that and I could see that in a matter of about 10 minutes, put that up.
We're the only ones saying it.
And um maybe part of it is too, it's nice being the first and you have to be the first.

(40:59):
um I put that up.
We were on with Alex Jones a day later.
He had one guy that was like, we're all going to die.
And then he had me and I'm saying, no, I think the numbers are bogus.
I think it's going to be like the flu.
uh
I was right.
I was right.
But I just knew that from maybe I knew from looking at the numbers.

(41:21):
You know, I just knew what I saw.
So based on this, it's not going to be that bad.
And uh so, but then we get attacked for that.
We get attacked severely.
And so same with the election attacked severely because these were real big operationsthat they didn't want any truth get down.
And quite frankly, they hate us.

(41:41):
They must.
They hate us.
They hate the truth tailors.
Yeah.
And they can't stop us though, too.
They can't stop.
You can't bend the truth.
You know, and that was the theme to this vindicated event.
It's about the truth and they cannot stop us.
The Internet, they don't own the Internet.
Fortunately, thank God, even with all their efforts.

(42:05):
So that's it.
I guess it's just about getting the truth out.
After a while, maybe you like having a big story and uh
But yeah, it's scary too, because these people are evil.
They are.
And you know, this, the last five years have been so wild.
If you just sit back and think of what we've lived through in the last five years, I kindof just, you know, we don't sit back very often, I think, and think of it because we just

(42:35):
are moving forward in day to day life.
But whenever you sit back and think, wow, we've been through some wild times.
the truth is loyalties, courage, honesty have all been put through the refining fire.
in that time.
Looking back, are you surprised by those who seem to have exposed themselves as frauds orcowards who you thought were like salt of the earth, who you thought were like with us in

(43:02):
terms of telling the truth?
Um.
I don't know.
Maybe not.
Maybe, maybe not.
I thought Mike Pence seemed like a pretty soft pick for Trump, that he was going to bejust a good Christian man.
And he's probably the worst to me, the worst.

(43:23):
The more I learn about him, he's a vile person.
He's very dishonest.
That's my opinion.
I mean, I believe, you know, he, I guess he did a talk show is what is, you know, beforehe became a rap.
claims to be a discreet Christian man.
That's the worst, think.
Somebody who claims to be a Christian or a good guy.

(43:44):
These guys on the left are vile.
Some of them are just vile.
But people on the right that play the super Christian thing, and then they're not, to methey're just as vile, if not more.
And that's what Pence played.
And he had a piece in General Flynn going.

(44:04):
Big piece.
As a matter of fact, we found out
doesn't have any love lost for, for Mike Pence.
Yeah.
Pence worked for the deep state and they needed to get rid of Flynn because Flynn was, heknew what was going on.
It's like, you know, they had to get rid of him.
He was, he'd already figured stuff out.

(44:24):
Even when Comey told Trump on January 5th of 2021, the day before the sixth, where Obamahad his meeting in the White House, tells, Comey's telling Trump by the way,
You know, we've got some information that, you know, you were involved with the Russians.
We're checking into it, but we just want to let you know, right?

(44:46):
Good old Jim Comey, who's the man of integrity, walks around, they call him CardinalComey, a vile human being.
I don't think I've ever really, once I got to know him, ever thought that that guy isanything other than vile, disgusting.
And now he's even done the same thing with his family, his daughter, Maureen.
for example, I could tell you a story about her that we've uncovered too, that we'rereporting on and now it's coming out.

(45:09):
I don't like it when some of these other reporters come out and say, oh, we broke that.
saw, I'll tell you, John Solomon say after the shift stuff came out on the mortgage, said,we reported that a year ago.
Well, John, we reported it two years ago.
Calm down, you're just not being honest there.
We broke that story.
And I don't like people that do that and there's quite a bit of that in this business,but.

(45:32):
is.
You know, so what do you do?
You can't do much about it, but you can point them out.
The, um, the thing with Pence is, you know, we find out recently that Trump asked him togo over and look at some documents and he came back and said, yeah, it's bad for Flynn.
It's, you know, he's, he's lied.
And so Pence was a hundred percent responsible for Flynn leaving.

(45:57):
We knew he had a big part in it.
I remember writing on January 6th.
And you know, riding away, staying focused on the TV.
Immediately I knew something was going on and I was pretty ticked off.
Jim had a couple other writers that were putting up all the stories from the media.
look here, this, you know, the police are getting beat up here and this is terrible here.

(46:17):
And I'm sitting here like that ain't normal.
That's not right.
You guys, I almost want to say you need to stop reporting that because it's not real.
It's a, it's fake.
And cause I felt like I could see through it and I.
That morning I wrote a piece and I said, today we'll know if Mike Pence is a good guy or avillain.
His history will tell today based on what he does.

(46:39):
And Pence was a traitor.
And m Flynn wrote me later in a direct message and shared, you're right on Joe, you'reright on.
And so um I didn't know that.
But yeah, I know it now.
Yeah, Pence is a bad, bad guy.
I saw him came out overnight with something about the Trump did.

(47:00):
goes, this is the right thing to do, Mr.
President.
And the comments are like, nobody cares what you say anymore, Pence.
Just go away.
Leave us.
You're a traitor.
You know?
And that's pretty harsh, but it's pretty true.
he was there the whole time.
So we've seen, you said it, the life we've lived through, this is historic times.

(47:23):
And I hear Bannon say sometimes a short period of time will be historic.
I read a book, a great book, if you ever get a chance.
I don't read a lot anymore because I just want to produce, right?
And, but this book, April 1865, that's the name of it, April 1865.
And so what happened in that month was Lee surrenders to, to uh Grant, I believe

(47:51):
Lincoln is re-inaugurated either in that beginning of that month or into the prior month,but I think it was the beginning of that month.
Lee surrenders.
then Lincoln's assassinated all in one month.
My God.
And these guys go, it's a great read about this historic stuff that happened in just thatone month.

(48:18):
And then he talked about the.
the funeral for Lincoln and, and in DC and how the people cheered.
One day it was Grant.
And then the other day it was Sherman marching their troops through DC.
The crowd just, they said the crowd loved the, I remember this part, the crowd loved the,Sherman there and his Western troops.

(48:41):
were taller, leaner guys.
And that would have been my great grandfather.
He was, he, and he survived like 20 battles with Sherman.
So, um,
I'm like, my God, and the horror those guys must've seen.
You talk about trauma.
anyways, um yeah, so that's it.

(49:01):
That's what we're living through now.
What we saw, the stolen election, all the things surrounding that, the Russia collusioncoup, Barack Obama, and I mentioned earlier, Barack Obama comes in, everybody loves him,
he's gonna be peace and all this stuff.
Mm-hmm.
He blows up the freaking Middle East, bombs like whatever 15 countries, 13, 17, whateverit is, gives guns to Al Qaeda and then gives billions to Iran.

(49:30):
And he should have been arrested.
He should have been arrested then.
Yeah, absolutely.
the, um, and what was the, guns and the drug stuff?
There was a name for it, Operation, Fast and Furious or something.
Yeah.
Trying to get ready guns, still are.
No, don't, I hope we never give up our guns.

(49:52):
I don't own a gun, but I hope we never do because they have a purpose.
It's to protect us against the government.
that's right.
What's your prediction or any predictions?
um I feel this and I'm pretty sure you do as well, a reckoning still has to happen withall that we've seen.

(50:12):
um Both a reckoning for the media, in the media, and a reckoning um in politics.
What do you think is going to be?
Is it a straw that breaks the camel's back or is it something really big that's going tohave to happen?
think that's really a great observation.
agree.
If we don't have a reckoning, then this country's over.

(50:36):
We can't have any more of this bogus stuff.
It's now September.
We haven't had an arrest.
It's getting very, very concerning.
Very, very, very concerning.
I think we had evidence on Comey and others that you could have arrested him day one.
John Brennan, he's toxic.
He's a toxic individual.
I uh understand he's a Muslim and a communist.

(50:59):
was card carrying communist.
I've heard guys, somebody told me, pretty good source, that yeah, he went and visitedBrennan when he was CIA director, he had a Muslim rug on his floor, so a prayer rug.
So that's John Brennan, and he's a little man too, and he's just a vile human being, vile.
And so, um we gotta put these people in prison, or worse, it's treason or whatever thepenalty is.

(51:27):
We have to start arresting people.
Keep hearing it's going to happen, but we heard this with Bill Barr.
Barr is going to bring the tab, know, stuff like that.
And it just never happened.
And he was a crook.
And we've got to pray that, you know, there's more happening now with Bondi and, and cashand Bongino.

(51:48):
And now they brought in Bailey from Missouri, the attorney general there.
I'm hoping that they just start charging people.
It's time.
mean, the people on like Trump and so many people that have been attacked ourselves.
you have to bring these guys to justice and, know, it's, it's probably, I'm sure it's allover the Bible.

(52:11):
I can't think of a phrase or, you know, what, you know, chapter verse at this time, butyou have to have justice.
If you don't have justice, it's, you know, it's garbage.
You'd sound like you're looking like, yeah, I know one.
I know one because I say it every day and it's in Psalm chapter 91.
This will tell you where my head's at, Joe.

(52:32):
You might think less of me.
um It says, Psalm chapter 91 verse 8, you will be a spectator as the wicked perish injudgment for they will be paid back for what they've done.
That's That's awesome.
No, that's what we absolutely need.

(52:54):
until then, we're still a broken, broken country.
We've had miracles though.
See, that was the thing you made me say historical earlier.
I think, I've made this statement before, this is gonna go down a thousand years from now.
The most famous saying maybe in human history, fight, fight, fight.

(53:15):
Barnan.
It's going to be huge if we win.
And if justice, if, if we don't win, they will ignore that, throw it away or associate itwith Brock Obama or something, you know, or, or, you know, she or something from China.
It's, um, it was really, really powerful.
The fact that he survived that turned his head, just that this, and then just that extralittle bit at the end that saved his life.

(53:42):
Um, historic, the stuff.
This is historic.
What he's doing now is historic.
He's doing great.
He's doing great.
We have to deal with our judges.
We have to get rid of these corrupt judges.
We have to remove them from office.
If it means, in my opinion, and I don't care what people say, if it means we need to sendthe National Guard in to remove these people from their office and throw them behind bars,

(54:07):
then we have to.
These people are not working for the country.
They are sabotaging our legal system and destroying it.
by making these judgments that are grabbed out of nowhere because the judge just is aradical, non-ethical, disgusting human being.
I think the same thing with Jerome Powell.

(54:29):
Like Jim and I were talking about that Lisa Cook, she's got this mortgage stuff.
And jumping back to that, it's a much bigger situation.
This is how they're laundering money as well.
It's a money laundering scheme.
And talking to Mark Fincham, you can maybe get him on to talk more about it.
My understanding is, I used to be a mortgage broker as well.

(54:50):
I used to work at a bank as an auditor as well.
And uh I did a lot of stuff, right?
But when you get a mortgage, there's a bank involved and there's a mortgage through thebank.
And then there's uh other forms that you file for legal purposes on who owns the property,et cetera, the title and all that.

(55:12):
And what we're finding out is that some of these people that live in some of these reallykind of crappy homes, they're getting money sent to them through the title companies, not
even through a mortgage.
And then there's no payments or anything.
It's just somehow registered through a title company.
And like it appears there's something going on.

(55:34):
These houses are these crappy house.
None of them are gorgeous.
that House Schiff had in Maryland that he says is his primary residence as well as hisresidence in California, which they all do.
They're all saying it's primary both times.
So there's a reason they're doing that.
And that's what this cook girl is involved in now from the Fed.
She's grossly incompetent and not able to, you know, she was, to me, she's a DEI hire whohas no, there's no reason she should be where she's at.

(56:05):
And then the judge now is a sorority sister and you just can't make this stuff up.
The judges need to be removed from office.
And I think at charge, need to be, we need to, we need to hold them accountable.
You cannot have the rulings that these judges have and, and be of a sound mind.
And, um, you're, you're, you're a criminal and same with Jerome Powell.

(56:26):
He's costing this country a trillion dollars a year by not lowering these rates, trilliondollars to every, you know, split amongst all Americans.
trillion dollars because he won't lower those rates, which should be lowered significantlyto the point that we'd save a trillion.
And that would really help the economy.
It helped the housing industry and all this.

(56:46):
I don't know why real estate agents aren't screaming for this guy to lower the rates.
And he won't because he's a vile, disgusting human being.
He did the same thing with Trump his first term, raised the rates, kept raising them andjust almost crashed the economy himself.
And so these kind of people, we just cannot allow them to continue.

(57:09):
They're too damaging and the damage is too severe.
uh You know, it's like looking back at COVID.
Yeah.
else needs to be held to account?
The tech execs who allowed all of our voices to be silenced in 2020 and 2021.
I feel like that's kind of gone undersaid lately, you know, because we've moved on, Elonbought Twitter, whatever.

(57:36):
Zuckerberg's visited the White House, Bill Gates has visited the White House, whatever.
One interesting thing that's happened in the last week or two, I don't know if you've seenthis, I'm sure you have, is that the DOD has started uh making tech executives,
commissioned officers at the rank of Lieutenant Colonel with this idea that they need tohelp train our DOD, like our soldiers for irregular warfare and technology and AI so that

(58:07):
we would be some of, you know, in the best position.
And I can't help but wonder if that's a double-edged sword right there.
Because I would imagine that that, you know, of course, what tech executive is going tosay no when they say, would you come and help us?
And then the ones, after they do, are they subject then to the USCMJ, MCJ?

(58:33):
m
you know, we always have that risk.
We've got to have real strong people of integrity in those roles.
But it's true.
I just think, well, you're absolutely right.
This war over in Ukraine, drones are running that thing pretty much.
Drones and missiles.
I don't think there's a lot of hand-to-hand combat.

(58:53):
You know what I mean?
They're just blowing people up from the sky and that's going to be happening more and moreand more.
So yeah, you need people that are, you know, these video games, these kids are...
doing today, I don't think they're all bad because that's going to be the soldiers in thefuture.
They're going to be sitting here running a battle, know, thousands of miles away, perhaps.

(59:17):
And hopefully, you know, hopefully if we don't have, you know, wars and stuff, uh thewhole, everything's changing so fast, you know.
So I, I think in Jim mentioned this the other day too, and I kind of, I agree.
Those aircraft carriers, they saved World War II.
They learned that whoever owned the Sky won, and that probably still the theory.

(59:40):
Whoever owns the Sky wins, but now you got a lot of drones up there.
Some of them are little, and they could probably do incredible damage, just a little tinydrone.
what, know, so.
ah
You know, SecDev Hexeth said that yesterday at the press conference that he who owns theskies wins whenever they were talking about the change in venue for Space Command.

(01:00:06):
yeah, okay.
So oh yeah, that's how was in World War II.
They learned that.
I mean, if you can't defend yourself and you're getting bombs dropped on you all day,you're toast.
Doesn't matter how far you bury yourself into the ground.
Probably kind of like life too, you You can't hide yourself.
You gotta face some of this stuff sometimes.

(01:00:31):
And that's it.
If you face it fearlessly and just do the right thing, even though it's not always easy.
oh
Well, uh then your life's easier, actually, in the long run, right?
It's true.
Yeah, I think what you said earlier even about lying, it strikes a chord because being onthe side of truth, you don't really have to watch your back so much.

(01:00:57):
you know that what you said is what you did and what you did is what you said.
And that makes life a lot easier to live.
Yeah, I heard somebody say that once.
He said it was somebody who was a big time drinker.
And he said, you know, when I was drinking, I'd tell one thing to one guy, one to another,another, another.

(01:01:18):
I was full lies Everything.
And it took so much energy because I had to remember, what did I say that guy last?
And what did I tell that person last?
And for various reasons.
And he said, was so nice to just clean up and just start sharing the truth.
If you share the truth, you don't have to.
remember, what did I tell that person?
know, it's just, life's a lot easier.

(01:01:41):
So that's maybe what it is too, I don't know about this writing stuff.
There is something, there's a reward to it.
There's definitely a reward.
You feel like a soldier of sorts in the spiritual war because ultimately then that'swhere, like we talked at the very beginning, that's what it is.

(01:02:03):
This is all a spiritual battle.
It is.
And I appreciate so much what you were bringing to the fight, Joe.
you're just, I don't know.
You've been such a point of authenticity for me.
That's one of the very first things I noticed about you is that you, you seem to be JoeHoffed inside and out.
Like I haven't seen you behave one way, um, here in another way, you know, um, what yousee is what you get.

(01:02:29):
And I appreciate that because it's a rare quality.
um,
Thank you for what you're bringing.
Thank you for your courageous commitment to the truth.
And um I think we're going to continue seeing some really big wins here.
I think September is going to be pretty spicy.
Yeah.

(01:02:50):
Well, thank you so much for coming on and spending time with me, Joe, and peeling back thecurtain on ah your life outside of politics and before politics.
It's great getting to hear that side of your story.
Yeah, thank you.
Thanks for having me.
Anytime.
Yeah, you're most welcome.
We'll be talking to you soon, Soon.
Thank you.

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