September 18, 2025 • 60 mins
Join Danielle Walker as she dives into the inspiring journey of Stephen and Candace Crothers, a dynamic duo bringing hope and healing to the remote village of La Moskitia, Honduras. Discover how their faith, resilience, and love for community transform lives through aviation and healthcare, all while navigating cultural quirks and challenges. Tune in for heartwarming stories and a testament to the power of trust and service.
SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY:
But I promise you this -- the Holy Spirit will come upon you and you will be seized with power. And you will be my messengers to Jerusalem, throughout Judea, the distant provinces -- even to the remotest places on earth. Acts 1:8
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KEY POINTS:
00:00 Introduction to Freedom and Service
03:07 Meeting Stephen and Candace Crothers
04:07 The Call to Mission Work
08:15 Life in La Mosquitia
11:43 Family Dynamics in a Remote Village
13:51 Missionary Work Beyond Traditional Methods
17:31 Rescue Missions and Medical Stories
22:26 Cultural Differences and Humor
28:51 Life in La Mosquitia: Grocery Adventures
29:57 Trusting God in Foreign Lands
31:38 Finding Contentment in Change
33:46 The Challenge of Homeschooling Abroad
36:38 Balancing Community and Privacy
39:40 Cultural Differences in Community Living
44:19 The Joyful Spirit of the People
46:31 Navigating the Savior Complex
49:16 Seeing the Fruits of Labor
51:21 Stepping Out in Faith
55:15 Supporting the Mission in La Mosquitia
59:41 FLF Outro AUGUST 2025.mp4
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(01:11):
Welcome everybody to For the Love of Freedom.
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It's 10 a.m.
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I am your host,
Danielle Walker, and on this show, we meet people who've rejected the status quo, rejectedconvention, and each in their own way are working to bring freedom to the world.
(01:51):
Joining me today, let me bring them on, are two people who are so dear to my heart.
They are family.
Stephen and Candace Crothers are living and working in a remote village in Honduras calledLa Mosquita.
Stephen is a mechanic and a pilot.
and Candice is a nurse and together they serve the people of La Mosquita and thesurrounding areas with emergency medical treatment and transport and by showing the love
(02:16):
of Christ.
Welcome Stephen and Candice.
It is just such a treat to have you with me today.
so much.
We're excited.
You know, it was my dad's idea to do this.
He was like, you should have Stephen and Candace on before they go back to Honduras.
So yeah, so thanks, dad.
Shout out to you.
(02:37):
Great idea.
uh Well, I love to start out the show and frame it with a scripture.
And today's scripture is Acts 1-8.
It'll be a very familiar uh passage to you.
says,
I promise you this, the Holy Spirit will come upon you and you will be seized with powerand you will be my messengers to Jerusalem, throughout Judea, the distant provinces, even
(03:04):
to the remotest places on earth." And I obviously brought that scripture because you areliving and working in one of the most, what feels definitely like one of the remotest
places on earth.
Let me see.
So why don't we start?
I don't want to start really there.
(03:24):
I want to go back before you got to the remotest place on earth and tell tell me how youtwo met.
And I just want to say that this is this is going to be really fun because some of thequestions I have for you all today, I know the answers to, but a lot of them I don't.
And these because, whenever we have when we get to visit, there's a lot going on.
(03:45):
And so you don't always get to know.
You don't always get to dig into this stuff.
So this is an absolute treat for me as well.
So let's go back to the way way back.
How did y'all two meet?
We met in college.
We had tons of mutual friends growing up, but we never crossed paths until Nichols.
Yeah, we met at the BCM in Nichols.
(04:07):
And I think I don't know if this was the first interaction, but one of the firstinteractions, like I already knew that I wanted to be a missionary.
And um one of the first memories of Stephen I have is he is going around handing everybodya Pray for Sudan prayer card.
And I was like, hmm.
(04:30):
So that was...
I crushing on him pretty soon.
Uh, as you should, as you should.
Now that was what you kind of touched on what I was going to ask you next, which is yourcall to the mission field.
what, mean, Candice, you already knew that you were called to the mission field.
Maybe tell me a little bit about that.
(04:51):
And then Steven, you know, did you, I mean, was Candice first in the mission field wassecond or how did that all happen?
uh Yeah, I guess as a teenager I started feeling called to missions.
um I think just in the church in general there was like a huge missions push and youngpeople going to the field and you know, I took several trips and fell in love and it just
(05:16):
got in my blood, you know, and so I just yeah at some point I just the Holy Spiritconfirmed it in me and I went to college looking at what what should I do?
in order to be able to use on the field, you Yeah.
There's several majors.
(05:36):
uh I landed on being a nurse.
Yeah.
So for only one, like, well, yeah, I guess one degree, but yeah, I think four majors.
Yeah.
main degree, but then there was a path to get there.
(05:59):
And what about you, Steven?
I feel like God put a love for people in my heart as a kid.
um When I was, we were in vacation Bible school, I think I was like six or seven.
um We were taking up offering with the Lottie Moon, um for the Lottie Moon Missionaryoffering, and I just felt God put, he said, you're gonna just put a desire to help people
(06:25):
and to do that.
And so,
I actually got to go share on this furlough at church.
It's the first time I've been back in probably 30 years.
It was pretty special because I got to sit, I could see it, and I got to sit in a seatwhere I feel like God put the love and the call in my heart and just to share with the
(06:47):
congregation there and that the things they're doing are special and sometimes it feelslike the little things that you do and even for Sherry for.
em Share vacation Bible school with the kids.
Sometimes it doesn't feel like they're listening.
They're just all over the place, but the things that they're doing are making an impact umfor the kids there too, even at a young age.
(07:11):
Yeah, that's pretty neat.
that is so cool.
And for the viewers, Stephen and I grew up together since we were teeny, teeny tiny.
Stephen lived in my house for a while.
He's part of the family.
They're they're part of the family.
uh We met Candace shortly after you met Candace because you brought her around.
So anyway, it's just this is just such a.
(07:32):
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
I mean, this is such a special uh opportunity for me.
So let's talk a little bit about La Mosquita.
Am I saying it correctly?
Mosquita?
Mosquitia.
OK.
I feel like down here in South Louisiana, we feel like we live in the land of La Mosquita.
(07:55):
But tell us about it.
What's the place like, the people like?
Tell us about your work and home setup.
for people who have absolutely no idea what living in a remote village in central Americawould be like.
La Moskitia is basically like another country of, it's in Honduras, but it's kind of, it'sa forgotten place by the government.
(08:20):
Um, and they don't get any real help from them.
There's, um, one real hospital in the, in the capital town with, um, about maybe two milesof paved road in all of La Moskitia.
and we live about 70 miles from the.
the biggest town there, the capital town that has about a 5,000 foot gravel runway.
(08:45):
And it takes us on average about four hours to get there.
That's where we get all of our groceries.
And if we need some stuff, hardware things or just basic stuff, we can get there.
it's only, so normally here in the States you can get there, I mean, maybe an hour, know,half maybe tops.
(09:10):
But yeah, it is uh just the everyone there is oh I mean that they seem pretty contentYeah, I mean, it's a very poor poor people Poor culture.
They don't have a lot of Yeah, they they work their crops that's how they you know, theylive off their own crops and they make
(09:38):
Probably on average, like eight to ten dollars a day is a normal.
If they work.
Yeah, if they have a job, you know, like it's there's not a lot of job opportunities inour village.
um There is a McCall sanctuary in the next village over and some some people get jobs withthat project.
So that's a blessing.
(09:59):
And then last year there was a well, like every summer, I guess it would be like uhprobably from about
February to May or June, there's a firefighting position because there's lots ofwildfires.
So they can get jobs doing that too, which is very, very hard job.
They go out and make, they make fire breaks with machetes.
(10:21):
And so they cut eight to 10, probably 10 to 12 foot sections of fire breaks with machetesand hoes.
And so just miles and miles.
They just basically go around the perimeter of the village, of the villages and try tokeep the...
fires out because two years the past two years the fires have been really bad.
They've come to the village.
(10:44):
sometimes in the village.
Yeah.
It was just really dry.
Our whale ran out to eat those past two years.
This past year we were good but the past two years we were not out water for probably twomonths.
Two and a half months I think.
But there's other there's other whales there hand whales and get water from and so.
Wild.
Now, how long have y'all been there and how old were your kids when you moved there?
(11:11):
little over four years.
and a half years.
We moved to Honduras in January of 21 and we were in language school for almost a year andthen in December of 21 we moved to Roos Roos.
That's the name of our village.
yeah, almost four years in Roos Roos.
My little was 14.
(11:32):
So your oldest was 14 and your youngest was three.
Crazy.
Now, um when, were you nervous about bringing your kids?
Yeah, mean, yeah, up to an extent.
mean, I guess the years leading up to us moving like God really had to do a lot in myheart, you know, just as in trusting him and believing that he was going to keep us.
(12:04):
you know, I mean, even not just the safety issue, but the giving up of a culture, youknow, like playing sports and having friends and
I mean, we were always homeschooled, but like having co-ops or anything like that, likeyou just had, we also had to trust God in that, that he was gonna, we knew we were moving
(12:24):
to a remote place, like how are our kids gonna do?
Like, are they gonna be okay?
Are they gonna be depressed?
Those are all things we had to think about and wrestle with and decide to trust God in.
And how's it working?
How are they doing?
Yeah, that our oldest one, Mila, she would probably say she wants to go back to, butthey're ready.
(12:51):
They're saying, I'm ready to go home now.
You know, they, you know, the kids in the village, they play with the kids in the village.
So, I mean, even though it's a very small village, they have good relationship with the,the kids and the teens there.
And, um, they just like the slow pace of life that we've, that we have over there.
(13:11):
So.
Definitely not city folk and it works out really good.
Now, when people think about missionaries, you I think you think about holding churchservices, maybe going door to door to tell people about Jesus.
What does it look like in your life?
Because I think, you know, with you being a pilot and a nurse, maybe there's a differentemphasis there.
(13:33):
We have a couple different, I mean we can have uh a different reach for people.
Our main tool is the airplane, but we just use it as a tool to share the love of Jesuswith the people.
And so when people need medical care, there's no access there, em no advanced care.
And so we're able to take them into the city, which would take two plus days.
(13:55):
We can do it in about two hours.
em But each flight, em we try to pray with the family and just give them hope.
You know, just connect with them and encourage them to uh love Jesus and trust him inthings.
uh And the clinic is a really good area for us.
Candice is able to, she spends time with the patients there and is able to have one-on-onetime.
(14:19):
And so there's opportunities there just to able to sit and, there are, one thing about theculture is they're not like us.
They're not task oriented.
It's a very people in time, just culture.
So they know how to sit and just listen and talk.
And so that's one thing we're learning.
(14:40):
But it's really good to be able to share because they're usually receptive to listen.
And so it gives opportunities to share.
Yeah.
And how's the language barrier?
Well, um most people in our village speak Spanish.
(15:00):
In La Moskitia, the languages are Mesquito and Spanish.
So the majority of the people that live in the Honduran side of La Moskitia speak Spanishalso.
uh But we also, live about five miles from Nicaragua.
And so we get a lot of patients that travel from Nicaragua and come to the clinic.
(15:23):
uh
A lot of those people don't speak Spanish, so we have to, of course, have a translator.
you know, most, like I said, most of the people in the village speak both, so it's easy tohave a translator.
Yeah.
been of y'all being there by the local people?
How have they received you?
(15:46):
They've been very gracious and um they're excited to have the airplane back because it hadbeen probably about five or six years since the previous missionary.
They have retired.
So there was no airplane for about five or six years.
um So when we came, um you know, we may not always hear what people are actually saying,but...
(16:09):
Sometimes that's for the best, right?
But I think the large majority are super grateful and realize that it's a huge blessing tohave the airplane, to have the free clinic, you know, for access to medical care.
(16:31):
yeah, but it is also a culture that you have to develop relationship always, you know,it's not like us.
You know, we can not see people for, you know, months and months and just pick up whereyou left off.
You know, everybody's busy, but they're like, if it's been a couple of weeks since I'veseen somebody, they're like withdrawn.
(16:54):
And I'm like, oh man, you got to kind of like draw it out again.
so it's, it takes a lot of cultivating relationships for sure.
Wow.
And share some stories.
I know y'all have so many.
um Talk a little bit about some of maybe a rescue mission and then share some funny stufftoo because I know there's got to be some really um hysterical moments based on just the
(17:28):
cultural differences and your view of things has got to be coming from such a differentplace.
to start out with, just share some stories.
about them.
Oh yeah, this is probably one of our favorite stories.
(17:52):
Last year we had a doctor come visit and she was teaching us cervical checks, a certainway to do cervical checks to screen for cancer.
said, hey, you have an ultrasound machine.
We did, but it was like from the 70s.
And I mean, I'm a nurse.
(18:14):
I don't do ultrasound.
I'm not familiar with it.
You know, I don't know what I'm looking at, but especially on this machine was just blur.
I had no clue.
So she was like, you know what?
I have a nonprofit where I gift um other nonprofits that work in poor communitiesultrasound machines.
And so she brought us a portable ultrasound machine.
(18:37):
and trained me on it.
And so I started doing a lot of pregnant women.
I started just learning, trying to learn and see what I could see.
um So one day we had one of our pregnant girls came in and um she, but she was bleedingbecause she had fallen, slipped in some mud and done like a split and she was bleeding.
(18:58):
So I took the ultrasound machine out.
She was probably about five months, not very far along and
not really far enough along like that the baby would be viable if something was happening,you know.
So we did the ultrasound machine, we did the ultrasound and it showed that she hadplacenta previa, which means the placenta was over the cervix, had grown over the cervix
(19:22):
and she had an abruption.
So it had detached from the uterus and it wasn't a complete abruption, but it was a verylarge abruption.
So.
We called ahead to the hospital.
It was that night, so we couldn't fly the plane, but Stephen packed up the truck, put herin the truck, and uh we sent her with some fluids.
And I called ahead and said, look, we have this abruption, this is medical emergency.
(19:46):
So when he got there five hours later, the miracle was that God sustained her life throughthat very rough trip.
You know, I mean, she was bleeding.
She was so weak by the time she got there, but they knew, they had heard, you know, we hadcalled ahead and they knew what was happening.
And uh
They were ready for her in surgery.
They gave her IV fluids.
The baby didn't make it because she wasn't far enough along, but Doris's life was savedthrough that.
(20:11):
I just was so just in awe that God, you know, like we just see that he's always preparingthe way for himself.
You know, like he makes provision for whatever his plans are.
And so that he would give us that, that he would prepare that way and that he would
just show Doris his care for her in that just very hard and traumatic time.
(20:35):
It was just such a blessing to see that and to be a part of that.
And she recovered well and she's doing well now.
So, praise God.
We just praise God for that.
His provision, yeah.
I know you got a different story, but you go ahead.
(20:56):
no, go ahead with your other story.
It was one, was a guy in about his mid-20s.
He came in late one night and his horse had bucked and his saddle hit him in the stomach.
so he was hurting really bad and he came in and we had the ultrasound in and we were justkind of seeing and it looked like he might have had a liver laceration if we weren't sure.
(21:21):
And so he was, we waited.
At that time our base vehicle was broken.
And so we didn't have an option to leave at night.
so, but first light, we put him in the airplane and we brought him to one of hospitalsthere.
And um a lot of times with patients, we don't really know what happens to them because wenever get to see them again.
um And so about a month later, I was in town shopping and I saw the hospital administratorfrom that hospital and he's like, and he asked me, said, Hey, he said, he asked if I knew
(21:53):
about the patient.
said, no, I haven't seen him.
He said, well, when he got into surgery,
He was probably, the doctor said he was about an hour from losing his life.
He was all full of infection and blood everywhere and stuff.
so that was kind of neat to better hear that what we're doing is helping him.
Yeah, he recovered and he's fine after.
(22:14):
They were able to help him and that was neat.
oh
a little bit about some cultural moments that you've had where it's just been hystericalin the eyes of an American.
Every day.
I'm going to tell them the frog story.
(22:35):
Okay.
So when we first got there after a few weeks, we got a bunch of chickens.
We bought some chickens from a lady and there was already a chicken coop in our our yard.
So we had the chickens in there.
Well, after, you know, several weeks or months, I don't even really know the time frame,but
(22:55):
We ended up hatching like a bunch of chickies, like 18 chickies.
And it was like really great.
And so um they would go in this spot that was completely closed off at night.
um There was no way for anything to get in or out.
And they would stay there at night.
It was all fenced in.
(23:16):
um But then I noticed them starting to get sick and they just started dying off, all thesechickies.
And we ended up with two chickies left out of 18.
And so one of the guys in the village, Lustin, his name is, he was like, you know what Ithink the problem is?
(23:36):
I think it's a frog.
A frog's licking your chickens at night.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
He's like, yeah, frogs, they lick the chickens and it could kill them because they'revenomous.
The frogs are venomous.
And I'm like, I mean, they're not like poison dart frogs.
They're talking about toads, you know?
Yeah.
I'm like, okay, last and I'm like, it's all closed off.
There's nothing that can get in there, but frogs were licking them apparently.
(24:00):
So, you know, we just time went on.
We ended up building another chicken coop and moved all the chickens over and he wastearing it down one day and he says, here, come here, And I said, and he's like, look at
this.
And he had taken everything down and the posts that were in the ground, the
(24:22):
post that was in that spot, was opened to where the chickies stayed at night.
There was a toad living in there.
It had rotted out and there was a toad.
I was like, oh my gosh.
then, you know, they say.
Because sure enough it was a tone so I'm you know I believe a lot.
(24:48):
Yeah I was looking at your face.
That is so crazy.
So yeah, that was one thing.
Culturally, was like, you know, they just all of Honduras thinks that the frogs are thinkfrogs are poisonous, you know, they're scared of frogs.
But I was like, with reason.
(25:08):
So.
Yeah.
at that.
Not just superstition.
Are there some weird belief systems that you've encountered being there where you're like,why would you think that?
it's just things that are maybe superstitious?
Yeah, they have lots of superstitions and there's some kind of witchcraft stuff mixed inin their beliefs and like they do the when the baby's born or an animal even sometimes
(25:34):
they'll do tie a red band around their wrists so you can see the wrist first before youlook at the baby.
To keep ward evil spirits off.
Snake bites, if you get bit by a snake, like you can't look at the person or you're gonnadie.
(25:59):
Yeah, like pregnant women.
Pregnant women can't look at a person.
So there was one woman who her son, her one and a half year old got bit by a snake.
And she was in there, but she would not look at him because she was pregnant.
And she was like, my baby's gonna die if I look at him.
So she was like very standoffish and not wanting to interact with her son who was bittenby a snake because
(26:21):
she thought her baby in utero was gonna die.
So, I mean, there's lots, of course, lots of like what we would call old wives' tales.
know, people will say, you know, with this hack, I'm kind of not thinking.
um I can't think of like anything in particular, but you know, like us, we have, you walkunder a ladder or if a black cat walks in front of you, you know, things like that, that
(26:45):
nobody really believes that, but people say that, you know?
So there's things like that, but.
uh
Yeah, there are more serious things like the snake thing.
had a worker, a cattle ranch owner, his worker got bit by a snake and he needed to betransported to the hospital in an airplane and he did not want to get in the airplane with
him.
He's like, I can't get in.
(27:06):
I'm going to die.
Because the guy's getting bitten.
Or his wife.
Because it's something about pregnant women.
But they do say that snakes will chase after pregnant women.
Really?
I mean, I don't know that might actually be something because of hormones.
(27:27):
I don't, oh I wouldn't totally discount that one, oh but people say that.
I'm like, might actually be true.
I can see how that could be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's in Revelations.
(27:51):
Now, Candace, you have made a great friend who um is your Uber Eats driver.
Would you talk about him?
Yes, so when we first moved to Roostroos, the Stephen and Brad are our teammate.
They were going every at least every two weeks to go get groceries.
(28:12):
Take that five hour at that point.
It was five to six hour drive because the roads were bad oh and they were going every twoweeks about to get groceries and then not too long, probably several months into living
there.
we met Guy Rye and he used to work for MAG.
He used to be the administrator for the hospital, our clinic in um Roos Roos and then umhe's a pastor.
(28:41):
But he also has a ranch past our village.
So he comes with his cattle truck empty, fills up with cattle and then goes back toLampira.
And um so he was like, look, if y'all ever need anything, I can pick up your groceries.
I can go to the hardware store for you.
So now we what's up for grocery grocery list, which I just did this morning because we'reabout to head back and oh he goes pick it up and drops it off.
(29:07):
And it's like Instacart of La Moskitia in a cattle truck.
But, you know, I'm not complaining.
No, and did it come, I think I saw a video that you shared of it coming over in a um boat.
No, well, no, he, he, he transported cattle on a boat.
Yeah.
(29:28):
Yeah.
I have no, I would love to go on that trip with him to see how they get them in and out.
Oh my gosh.
It's a 25 foot boat probably, huh?
That's like three feet wide enough to fit two cows side by side.
No, no.
(29:48):
He's brave.
one angry cow, and you're in the water.
Well, y'all have touched a little bit about our Candice you have about the Lord's teachingyou to trust him um with your kids.
Would you talk maybe a little bit about um some of the things he's taught you outside ofthat about trusting him in a foreign place so far away from family, so far away from
(30:16):
convenience?
I feel like a lot of it, you know, your life just has to be kind of
holding on loosely if you hold on at all.
Yeah, yeah, I think everything is, it's not just being flexible is being fluid, you know,things change so quickly, you know, and especially the nature of what we do is, you know,
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I mean, you just have to be ready at any time, you know, something comes in the villagethat you mean, you're just doing life as normal.
And then, you know, all of a sudden, you're 100 miles an hour, you know, so
Yeah, I think that's one thing that, um, goddess taught us.
mean, when we first moved there, it was the kids really adjusted probably faster than Idid.
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They fell in love and they were like, we'd love this place wide open spaces.
They were getting to play all the time, but, um, it took me a little while to findcontentment.
And, um, so I wrestled with that for a while just because, you know, I missed
going to meet my friends at coffee shops or just being able to go to the grocery storeanytime I wanted.
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So it did, but he gave me this verse and I clung to that and I spoke it so often so thatit would become truth.
it was, God makes everything beautiful in its own time.
And you know, when you when he first would have asked me, you know, people asked me, doyou love it there?
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One of my missionary friends in in Honduras, she's like, do you love it there?
was like, love is a strong word.
But now I can say that I do because he's made it beautiful in its time, you know, so Ijust I'm so grateful for that, that he, you know, I can't even imagine us doing anything
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else.
So.
I'm just so blessed by that, that he, you know, it's what he did to change me.
He didn't change anything in our situation.
He changed me, you know, and that was, that's the big takeaway that it says that he needsto change.
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Yeah, it's true.
What about you, Steven?
Yeah, just I think before we left, I had a moment where I had to, like, I felt God to say,I mean, you have to, are you going to trust me even if something really bad happens?
Like, and I mean, I had to just come to the realization that, I mean, I have to because, Imean, everything is in his hands and he's going to work everything for his good, good
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things and bad things.
which I've gotten to see how God um can work bad situations into good.
um Being able look back at things that have happened and see how he connects the dots andworks in the background whenever we don't see anything.
Sometimes we're just seeing a wall and we're just trying to push through or go around itor wait and knock at the door.
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And he's working something from another corner from a different way.
And if that didn't.
if we weren't waiting and uh something, an inconvenience or something didn't happen, thenwe wouldn't have gotten the answer to our prayer or whatever it is, or an answer for
someone else.
um And so just making the decision to say, yes, I trust you with everything.
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ah And it's a daily thing too.
Not just a one-time decision.
It's kind of, you know.
Yeah, and one thing with trust that I remember that I guess was just, you know, a questionasked by the Holy Spirit, like, you know, in the preparation and in the process, like,
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God, can I really trust you?
And then he's like, who are you going to trust yourself?
Like, do you have all the ability to control your life and to protect your childrencompletely?
You know, like I...
you know, so that really brought it into perspective.
Like I can't do anything, anything more, but obviously a lot less than God can, you know,so, um, so that was, I remember.
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a good word.
And you have been homeschooling your kids there.
How has that been?
Challenges with the internet, challenges with, I don't know.
ah I can't even imagine what the challenges are.
lots of challenges for sure.
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Yeah, at the beginning, internet was really spotty.
mean, we had a lot of our stuff was in book form, but we did have some things that wereonline.
And, you know, when when our internet would go out for like a month at a time, the kidswere like, I can't do my work, mom, the internet's not working.
So
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Yeah, but now we have Starlink, so that's a huge help and we never run out.
Although on cloudy days, it does affect it some.
It's a lot slower sometimes.
There's probably two years or so before we got good internet.
Yeah, least.
And battery power.
We were running on generator at first.
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Sometimes we run the generator 12 hours a day and it was just way too expensive.
ended up getting...
We have solar now with some pretty good batteries.
uh
And so we have power every day for the most part.
m
you keep him motivated?
Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, it's definitely I feel like from older kids, you know, because we've alwayswe've always homeschooled um from older kids.
I felt like I was a lot funner homeschooling.
And now my second set or second set Jojo and simple, you know, we had the first three andthey were really close.
And then five years later, we had the second set.
So I'm like, man, I'm not as fun of a homeschool mom as I used to be.
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I'm like, let's just get this done.
Let's just get this done because it's really hard to balance.
for me it's hard to balance the like the ministry and the people who always need you overyou know and trying to get your kids.
So this year I think I did a better job than previous years of like putting boundaries andsaying hey look no I can't come in right now I can't go to the clinic or they're gonna
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have to wait you know if it was an emergency.
Sorry I'm schooling with my kids right now you know so um
I did a better job with that this year and so last year.
I think this year my focus is going to be just to be a funner to do funner stuff with mylittle kids.
Well, I think that's an excellent thing.
I can't imagine, I mean, you got to give yourself some grace in that too, because youtalked about how much um the local people require kind of continual relationships.
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So it's got to be a really hard thing to balance, like saying, how do I put up boundaries?
How do I say no, if I know that maybe this boundary is going to cause me, you know, alittle more difficulty in connecting the next time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think it's also just being upfront and honest with people like, you know, like notexpecting them to know and understand what we're doing, you know, but just saying, hey,
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look, I this is what I'm working on right now.
I need to be able to do this, you know, and then, you know, I think people what I'venoticed is that
you if they may not have understood what you were doing before and then you explain it andthey're like, oh, well, that makes sense.
Okay.
See, yeah, go ahead.
You know?
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So, um, so yeah.
But you have to, because they don't know their, uh, they don't know boundaries.
And if they need something, they're going to come to you and just say, and you could be inthe middle of surgery, like doing something and they're just go, Hey, what are you, can
you help me with this?
you.
No, they really don't.
mean, but that's their culture.
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You know, they're just always at each other's houses.
Like I remember our nurse, was she's a Moskito and she was sick one weekend and she waslike aching, you know, she was in bed, but there were kids in her house, like village kids
just hanging out and playing at her house.
And I'm like, it's a limo.
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Why are you letting all these kids in your house?
She's like, oh, they just always come over.
And so it was, it's just different.
You know what mean?
They just, they're just very communal and they just are at each other's house all the timeand visiting and it doesn't, there really are not many boundaries.
And there's not really, there's not a, I don't think in this culture, there's even a valueof privacy.
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Like they don't even know what that would mean, privacy, you know?
So.
that's a culture shock.
Yes, as Americans, we value our privacy, right?
And so uh it's a very, it's a very, it's something that we have to balance, you know,because we want to be involved in the community and we want them to trust us and to want
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to come to us.
But also, you know, we do like privacy too.
Yeah.
But we do have the, we have some missionary friends in across the border in Nicaragua, butthey are fully living like Moskito She said, yeah, we have people in our house all the
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time from the time we wake up to the time we go to sleep.
Like there's people in our house.
And so that's, we haven't gotten to that level, you know?
And I really admire her for that.
But we do still try to, you know.
cultivate those relationships.
Yeah, and there's another missionary family on your base, like close by, right?
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So that's got to be kind of in a way a lifeline of just like we can connect on some mainpoints of mutual understanding, you know, not like it's just different when you come from
a similar cultural background.
cool.
Well, you all shared a video with me and I thought I would take the opportunity to playthe video.
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I'll go.
and give people a little flavor of what your life is like.
So let me play that now.
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Okay.
you
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.
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Okay.
Okay.
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What beautiful people, what beautiful country.
I mean, it's just amazing.
And one thing I was really struck by is that it's not a convenient place to live.
I can see that.
But it seems like the lack of convenience is what causes community to be necessary, right?
And you think about our own culture and how convenience has actually separated us frompeople.
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It's allowed us to not have to live.
in community, but we were made to live in community.
We were made to rely on each other.
And I think we've make our own lives more difficult and less fulfilling by being such anAmazon, Uber Eats type of culture.
You you really lose human connection.
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How would you describe the people?
I mean, it looks like it's a very joyful people.
Mm hmm.
yeah, for sure.
um I mean, yeah, life is hard.
And I feel like in our community, there is just a blessing of, don't know, just a spiritof blessing.
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I there's definitely people who have it hard.
You know, I their lives are harder than everybody else's, but they're accustomed to thatway of life.
You know, I mean, they're hard compared to what we think, you know, and uh
you know, having to wash clothes in the river, wash their dishes in the river, you know,that's every day for them.
But, um you know, and when we had to do that, that was really hard, you know.
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But for them, it's just their way of life, you know, it's just normal.
um So I forgot where it was going with that.
yeah, joyful people.
But yeah, I mean,
The kids are always smiling and laughing.
I mean, they're laughing at everything, even at the expense of people sometimes becausethey're just so joyful.
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Yeah.
And initially when you would maybe come across uh mosquitoes and they, you know, they justhave that resting, mean looking face, you know, but then whenever you start talking to
them.
They're just the sweetest people, you know?
And so uh it's easy to view them a certain way, but like you saw in the video with, youknow, them receiving things or playing or, you know, em being in a VBS, being in a church
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service, yeah, their demeanor just changes and em yeah, they're beautiful people.
where you em had to let go of like maybe some kind of instinct to save people from theirown lives?
You know, like you see how hard life is and you just maybe want to fix it for everybody.
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But there's no way you can.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
yeah, absolutely.
There's what we call um in missions or maybe anywhere a savior complex, you know, that youwant to do, do you want to give, give, give.
And, you know, we've definitely learned that being there and living full time, like youcan't just give everything to everybody, you know, like it's just not sustainable.
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Yeah.
Healthy, know, it's not healthy for the people, it's not healthy for you as a missionary,you know, like it's fine to bless people and to, you know, to be a conduit of somebody
else giving to them, you know, that's fine.
But, but to always being receiving things for free or receiving, you know, that's not ahealthy way of life, you know.
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And we have seen how that has backfired in a lot of areas, you know, and
So you just have to have discernment, have wisdom on when to do things, when it's okay togive, when the Holy Spirit leads you to do it.
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But...
It just depends.
And there's different projects that have come in and just gave and left and they don'twork.
Things are just sitting there.
Because they didn't really want it in the first place, but it was somebody's cool idea andit would help, but that's just not how they do things.
Nobody's there to help cultivate that and there was no ownership in the project.
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like people who have flown in to help or something, but then.
not even like our organization or worked with us, just different groups that come into thearea.
Really good ideas and stuff, but it's just good work there.
Yeah, and you kind of see that across the board in missions in general.
You know, you hear that a lot.
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You know, I don't know that a lot of people hear that, but um I guess being in missions,you do hear that, you know, like this is
It's not so great to just pour out pounds and pounds of clothes, you know, for people, youknow, like it's just not...
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It's not healthy for the community.
And there's a book, actually a book called When Helping Hurts.
And it's a really good book.
And they also have When Healthcare Hurts.
And we're just kind of seeing that playing out live in our lives, you know.
So it's really just discernment.
And uh we always have to pray to know what decisions to make, you know.
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Yeah, are you seeing the fruit of your work?
Are you seeing people's lives changed or people feel, are you seeing people maybe morediscipled or are coming uh with more Augusto to faith?
Yeah, we were just uh talking about this when we do a medical brigade every year and weshow a Jesus film during the nights.
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And this year we had 30 people give their lives to Christ during that week.
But it's not just like what we're seeing, it's other communities like that.
Our pastor friend who brings our groceries, he said that they had gone to differentvillages.
going door to door and they were seeing people be saved.
And another village about an hour from us had some night, night crusades and they wereseeing people be saved.
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So yeah, I mean, God's moving even though, you know, on the day to day, we kind of feellike what are you doing God?
But, you know, looking back, we're um we're just seeing God change little by little, youknow.
In the video there was, we had done a...
we had hosted a marriage conference.
had two pastors and their wives come in from the interior in Honduras and we did amarriage conference.
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And that was a big deal because they don't really have those.
There's no marriage conferences happening.
There's a lot of church conferences, but with a specific um context of marriage, theydon't have that.
So there's a lot of people, most people aren't married, even though they might have beenwith each other for a long time.
they're not married, after that, at end of the year last year, there were five couples whocommitted to marriage.
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um They had marriage ceremony, wedding ceremonies, and they committed after years of beingtogether.
So that was...
um
Hey Sybil.
She's showing us her loose teeth.
Is it to fall out?
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Okay.
All right.
We'll do that after.
Well, a lot of your work is dangerous.
What advice or wisdom would you give to people who may be sitting on the sidelines, maybenot following an instruction from the Lord to do something because of fear?
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I it's, I don't know about dangerous, but it's not...
um
If you're in the will of God, mean, God's gonna be with you.
I mean, it's not to say that you're gonna be protected from any kind of harm.
mean, anything we do, there's gonna be risk in it.
I mean, just going to work in your car, there's risk.
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Every time I get on the road, I'm like, man, how can you?
Like, we have to have more faith in everybody else on the road that they're not gonna hitus or they're not gonna do something silly, or if they're drinking or, know, like that has
to be way more, but.
oh
When God asks you to do something, it's going to be uncomfortable.
And so we just, one thing I try to teach the kids is to do, be comfortable beinguncomfortable.
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Cause anything God asks you to do is going to be bigger than, than you, or it's not goingto be worth doing.
And so it's just going to be of you but whenever he asks you to do something, um, it'susually going to be out of your comfort zone.
And so that's, um, big things anyway.
So that way he can show up and he can get the glory for it.
And you can say, that definitely wasn't me.
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m Like that's all that's all God's work and that's just how he chooses to work and so justto I think as we spend more time with them ah in the quiet and just knowing that he's
gonna show up and have an expectancy for him to to do what he does uh and put ourselvesaside and let him and move then we can start seeing things more and so as he has to do
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something small we can step out and do it and then
who ask us to do other things.
Yeah, and how has God surprised you lately?
Um, man, just, well, he, being here, we've been on furlough for several um months and justsurprised us with, um, just new people who have just really wholeheartedly jumped on with
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the vision and really, wanted to join the team being partners, you know, that's been sucha huge.
huge thing.
um Last, I don't know if you remember in the video where we were building a learningcenter and we're gonna use that for like um tutoring or just continuing education, uh
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conferences, know, the options are endless, you know, but uh one of our...
Yeah, one thing Brad, whenever Brad was visiting the village,
God gave him a word and said he felt like God said, you guys are gonna use this buildingjust to reach more people, not just in the village, and that's an outreach.
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And so he was just like, okay.
And he didn't have any context to it or anything.
so.
But one of our supporters, she works for one of the Texas school districts and they weregetting rid of a bunch of tech, so they donated like 30 iPads, 30 Chromebooks, and two
like big.
Promethean boards.
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m And we're like, we're just finishing up this learning center.
I'm like, I don't know what we're going to do with this.
Like, I mean, we do have a vision what we could use it for, but we're just, we know by nowthat God is always preparing his way.
And so we're like, okay, let's get, you know, receive those.
And so those are going to be, I think, really great resources.
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And I'm just excited to see like what God's going to do with it.
So.
Amazing.
Well, how can people support you as you are his hands and feet?
um Not just for him, but for us um in La Moskitia, in Rus Rus.
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Well, there are several ways to give if I don't know we can maybe put the link on there Imean prayer is definitely the biggest because we You know a lot of times we come across
like you said dangerous situations dangerous things and we need Discernment on how to dealwith it Discernment and wisdom on what to say what to do at the time.
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So
just his covering and his blessing over us that he would establish the work of our hands.
um And then you can also join in um like monthly or one-time gifts as um on the MAGwebsite and support.
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And for those who are listening, if you're just listening, it's flymag.org,F-L-Y-M-A-G.org.
Yes.
And there's, you know, when you go to give there's several, several options and severalways to give on there.
So, yeah.
Well, thank you both so much for coming on.
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It's just such a pleasure.
It's such a gift to spend some time with you and just hear how God's working in yourlives, but also how He's using you and what He's teaching you because it challenges us.
It challenges me to know that you guys have been so faithful and you constantly have tostep out on faith every day.
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is a faith step, know, m living where you're living and serving the people you're serving.
So thank you for loving the people of La Moskitia.
Thank you for being such a blessing to them for um the work that you're doing um in healthcare, but also the work you're doing just sharing the love of Christ, which is the main
thing, the absolute main thing.
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So God bless you and I will, I think I'll see you later this afternoon.
Yep.
good.
Thank you, Dan.
Thank you so much.
I love you.
And just a reminder to everyone watching, the state of freedom will be back here live at10 a.m.
Central tomorrow.
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We will be speaking with Dr.
Mary Talley-Boden about the Maha agenda and the future of hopefully seeing someaccountability for all that went down that was so horrible during COVID.
So please tune into us tomorrow.
um We look forward to being back here with you.
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All right, God bless.
Welcome everybody to For the Love of Freedom.
Today is Wednesday, September 17th.
It's 10 a.m.
Central.
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So please do that.
I am your host,
Danielle Walker, and on this show, we meet people who've rejected the status quo, rejectedconvention, and each in their own way are working to bring freedom to the world.
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Joining me today, let me bring them on, are two people who are so dear to my heart.
They are family.
Stephen and Candace Crothers are living and working in a remote village in Honduras calledLa Mosquita.
Stephen is a mechanic and a pilot.
and Candice is a nurse and together they serve the people of La Mosquita and thesurrounding areas with emergency medical treatment and transport and by showing the love
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of Christ.
Welcome Stephen and Candice.
It is just such a treat to have you with me today.
so much.
We're excited.
You know, it was my dad's idea to do this.
He was like, you should have Stephen and Candace on before they go back to Honduras.
So yeah, so thanks, dad.
Shout out to you.
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Great idea.
uh Well, I love to start out the show and frame it with a scripture.
And today's scripture is Acts 1-8.
It'll be a very familiar uh passage to you.
says,
I promise you this, the Holy Spirit will come upon you and you will be seized with powerand you will be my messengers to Jerusalem, throughout Judea, the distant provinces, even
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to the remotest places on earth." And I obviously brought that scripture because you areliving and working in one of the most, what feels definitely like one of the remotest
places on earth.
Let me see.
So why don't we start?
I don't want to start really there.
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I want to go back before you got to the remotest place on earth and tell tell me how youtwo met.
And I just want to say that this is this is going to be really fun because some of thequestions I have for you all today, I know the answers to, but a lot of them I don't.
And these because, whenever we have when we get to visit, there's a lot going on.
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And so you don't always get to know.
You don't always get to dig into this stuff.
So this is an absolute treat for me as well.
So let's go back to the way way back.
How did y'all two meet?
We met in college.
We had tons of mutual friends growing up, but we never crossed paths until Nichols.
Yeah, we met at the BCM in Nichols.
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And I think I don't know if this was the first interaction, but one of the firstinteractions, like I already knew that I wanted to be a missionary.
And um one of the first memories of Stephen I have is he is going around handing everybodya Pray for Sudan prayer card.
And I was like, hmm.
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So that was...
I crushing on him pretty soon.
Uh, as you should, as you should.
Now that was what you kind of touched on what I was going to ask you next, which is yourcall to the mission field.
what, mean, Candice, you already knew that you were called to the mission field.
Maybe tell me a little bit about that.
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And then Steven, you know, did you, I mean, was Candice first in the mission field wassecond or how did that all happen?
uh Yeah, I guess as a teenager I started feeling called to missions.
um I think just in the church in general there was like a huge missions push and youngpeople going to the field and you know, I took several trips and fell in love and it just
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got in my blood, you know, and so I just yeah at some point I just the Holy Spiritconfirmed it in me and I went to college looking at what what should I do?
in order to be able to use on the field, you Yeah.
There's several majors.
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uh I landed on being a nurse.
Yeah.
So for only one, like, well, yeah, I guess one degree, but yeah, I think four majors.
Yeah.
main degree, but then there was a path to get there.
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And what about you, Steven?
I feel like God put a love for people in my heart as a kid.
um When I was, we were in vacation Bible school, I think I was like six or seven.
um We were taking up offering with the Lottie Moon, um for the Lottie Moon Missionaryoffering, and I just felt God put, he said, you're gonna just put a desire to help people
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and to do that.
And so,
I actually got to go share on this furlough at church.
It's the first time I've been back in probably 30 years.
It was pretty special because I got to sit, I could see it, and I got to sit in a seatwhere I feel like God put the love and the call in my heart and just to share with the
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congregation there and that the things they're doing are special and sometimes it feelslike the little things that you do and even for Sherry for.
em Share vacation Bible school with the kids.
Sometimes it doesn't feel like they're listening.
They're just all over the place, but the things that they're doing are making an impact umfor the kids there too, even at a young age.
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Yeah, that's pretty neat.
that is so cool.
And for the viewers, Stephen and I grew up together since we were teeny, teeny tiny.
Stephen lived in my house for a while.
He's part of the family.
They're they're part of the family.
uh We met Candace shortly after you met Candace because you brought her around.
So anyway, it's just this is just such a.
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Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
I mean, this is such a special uh opportunity for me.
So let's talk a little bit about La Mosquita.
Am I saying it correctly?
Mosquita?
Mosquitia.
OK.
I feel like down here in South Louisiana, we feel like we live in the land of La Mosquita.
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But tell us about it.
What's the place like, the people like?
Tell us about your work and home setup.
for people who have absolutely no idea what living in a remote village in central Americawould be like.
La Moskitia is basically like another country of, it's in Honduras, but it's kind of, it'sa forgotten place by the government.
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Um, and they don't get any real help from them.
There's, um, one real hospital in the, in the capital town with, um, about maybe two milesof paved road in all of La Moskitia.
and we live about 70 miles from the.
the biggest town there, the capital town that has about a 5,000 foot gravel runway.
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And it takes us on average about four hours to get there.
That's where we get all of our groceries.
And if we need some stuff, hardware things or just basic stuff, we can get there.
it's only, so normally here in the States you can get there, I mean, maybe an hour, know,half maybe tops.
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But yeah, it is uh just the everyone there is oh I mean that they seem pretty contentYeah, I mean, it's a very poor poor people Poor culture.
They don't have a lot of Yeah, they they work their crops that's how they you know, theylive off their own crops and they make
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Probably on average, like eight to ten dollars a day is a normal.
If they work.
Yeah, if they have a job, you know, like it's there's not a lot of job opportunities inour village.
um There is a McCall sanctuary in the next village over and some some people get jobs withthat project.
So that's a blessing.
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And then last year there was a well, like every summer, I guess it would be like uhprobably from about
February to May or June, there's a firefighting position because there's lots ofwildfires.
So they can get jobs doing that too, which is very, very hard job.
They go out and make, they make fire breaks with machetes.
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And so they cut eight to 10, probably 10 to 12 foot sections of fire breaks with machetesand hoes.
And so just miles and miles.
They just basically go around the perimeter of the village, of the villages and try tokeep the...
fires out because two years the past two years the fires have been really bad.
They've come to the village.
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sometimes in the village.
Yeah.
It was just really dry.
Our whale ran out to eat those past two years.
This past year we were good but the past two years we were not out water for probably twomonths.
Two and a half months I think.
But there's other there's other whales there hand whales and get water from and so.
Wild.
Now, how long have y'all been there and how old were your kids when you moved there?
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little over four years.
and a half years.
We moved to Honduras in January of 21 and we were in language school for almost a year andthen in December of 21 we moved to Roos Roos.
That's the name of our village.
yeah, almost four years in Roos Roos.
My little was 14.
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So your oldest was 14 and your youngest was three.
Crazy.
Now, um when, were you nervous about bringing your kids?
Yeah, mean, yeah, up to an extent.
mean, I guess the years leading up to us moving like God really had to do a lot in myheart, you know, just as in trusting him and believing that he was going to keep us.
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you know, I mean, even not just the safety issue, but the giving up of a culture, youknow, like playing sports and having friends and
I mean, we were always homeschooled, but like having co-ops or anything like that, likeyou just had, we also had to trust God in that, that he was gonna, we knew we were moving
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to a remote place, like how are our kids gonna do?
Like, are they gonna be okay?
Are they gonna be depressed?
Those are all things we had to think about and wrestle with and decide to trust God in.
And how's it working?
How are they doing?
Yeah, that our oldest one, Mila, she would probably say she wants to go back to, butthey're ready.
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They're saying, I'm ready to go home now.
You know, they, you know, the kids in the village, they play with the kids in the village.
So, I mean, even though it's a very small village, they have good relationship with the,the kids and the teens there.
And, um, they just like the slow pace of life that we've, that we have over there.
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So.
Definitely not city folk and it works out really good.
Now, when people think about missionaries, you I think you think about holding churchservices, maybe going door to door to tell people about Jesus.
What does it look like in your life?
Because I think, you know, with you being a pilot and a nurse, maybe there's a differentemphasis there.
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We have a couple different, I mean we can have uh a different reach for people.
Our main tool is the airplane, but we just use it as a tool to share the love of Jesuswith the people.
And so when people need medical care, there's no access there, em no advanced care.
And so we're able to take them into the city, which would take two plus days.
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We can do it in about two hours.
em But each flight, em we try to pray with the family and just give them hope.
You know, just connect with them and encourage them to uh love Jesus and trust him inthings.
uh And the clinic is a really good area for us.
Candice is able to, she spends time with the patients there and is able to have one-on-onetime.
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And so there's opportunities there just to able to sit and, there are, one thing about theculture is they're not like us.
They're not task oriented.
It's a very people in time, just culture.
So they know how to sit and just listen and talk.
And so that's one thing we're learning.
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But it's really good to be able to share because they're usually receptive to listen.
And so it gives opportunities to share.
Yeah.
And how's the language barrier?
Well, um most people in our village speak Spanish.
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In La Moskitia, the languages are Mesquito and Spanish.
So the majority of the people that live in the Honduran side of La Moskitia speak Spanishalso.
uh But we also, live about five miles from Nicaragua.
And so we get a lot of patients that travel from Nicaragua and come to the clinic.
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uh
A lot of those people don't speak Spanish, so we have to, of course, have a translator.
you know, most, like I said, most of the people in the village speak both, so it's easy tohave a translator.
Yeah.
been of y'all being there by the local people?
How have they received you?
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They've been very gracious and um they're excited to have the airplane back because it hadbeen probably about five or six years since the previous missionary.
They have retired.
So there was no airplane for about five or six years.
um So when we came, um you know, we may not always hear what people are actually saying,but...
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Sometimes that's for the best, right?
But I think the large majority are super grateful and realize that it's a huge blessing tohave the airplane, to have the free clinic, you know, for access to medical care.
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yeah, but it is also a culture that you have to develop relationship always, you know,it's not like us.
You know, we can not see people for, you know, months and months and just pick up whereyou left off.
You know, everybody's busy, but they're like, if it's been a couple of weeks since I'veseen somebody, they're like withdrawn.
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And I'm like, oh man, you got to kind of like draw it out again.
so it's, it takes a lot of cultivating relationships for sure.
Wow.
And share some stories.
I know y'all have so many.
um Talk a little bit about some of maybe a rescue mission and then share some funny stufftoo because I know there's got to be some really um hysterical moments based on just the
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cultural differences and your view of things has got to be coming from such a differentplace.
to start out with, just share some stories.
about them.
Oh yeah, this is probably one of our favorite stories.
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Last year we had a doctor come visit and she was teaching us cervical checks, a certainway to do cervical checks to screen for cancer.
said, hey, you have an ultrasound machine.
We did, but it was like from the 70s.
And I mean, I'm a nurse.
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I don't do ultrasound.
I'm not familiar with it.
You know, I don't know what I'm looking at, but especially on this machine was just blur.
I had no clue.
So she was like, you know what?
I have a nonprofit where I gift um other nonprofits that work in poor communitiesultrasound machines.
And so she brought us a portable ultrasound machine.
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and trained me on it.
And so I started doing a lot of pregnant women.
I started just learning, trying to learn and see what I could see.
um So one day we had one of our pregnant girls came in and um she, but she was bleedingbecause she had fallen, slipped in some mud and done like a split and she was bleeding.
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So I took the ultrasound machine out.
She was probably about five months, not very far along and
not really far enough along like that the baby would be viable if something was happening,you know.
So we did the ultrasound machine, we did the ultrasound and it showed that she hadplacenta previa, which means the placenta was over the cervix, had grown over the cervix
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and she had an abruption.
So it had detached from the uterus and it wasn't a complete abruption, but it was a verylarge abruption.
So.
We called ahead to the hospital.
It was that night, so we couldn't fly the plane, but Stephen packed up the truck, put herin the truck, and uh we sent her with some fluids.
And I called ahead and said, look, we have this abruption, this is medical emergency.
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So when he got there five hours later, the miracle was that God sustained her life throughthat very rough trip.
You know, I mean, she was bleeding.
She was so weak by the time she got there, but they knew, they had heard, you know, we hadcalled ahead and they knew what was happening.
And uh
They were ready for her in surgery.
They gave her IV fluids.
The baby didn't make it because she wasn't far enough along, but Doris's life was savedthrough that.
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I just was so just in awe that God, you know, like we just see that he's always preparingthe way for himself.
You know, like he makes provision for whatever his plans are.
And so that he would give us that, that he would prepare that way and that he would
just show Doris his care for her in that just very hard and traumatic time.
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It was just such a blessing to see that and to be a part of that.
And she recovered well and she's doing well now.
So, praise God.
We just praise God for that.
His provision, yeah.
I know you got a different story, but you go ahead.
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no, go ahead with your other story.
It was one, was a guy in about his mid-20s.
He came in late one night and his horse had bucked and his saddle hit him in the stomach.
so he was hurting really bad and he came in and we had the ultrasound in and we were justkind of seeing and it looked like he might have had a liver laceration if we weren't sure.
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And so he was, we waited.
At that time our base vehicle was broken.
And so we didn't have an option to leave at night.
so, but first light, we put him in the airplane and we brought him to one of hospitalsthere.
And um a lot of times with patients, we don't really know what happens to them because wenever get to see them again.
um And so about a month later, I was in town shopping and I saw the hospital administratorfrom that hospital and he's like, and he asked me, said, Hey, he said, he asked if I knew
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about the patient.
said, no, I haven't seen him.
He said, well, when he got into surgery,
He was probably, the doctor said he was about an hour from losing his life.
He was all full of infection and blood everywhere and stuff.
so that was kind of neat to better hear that what we're doing is helping him.
Yeah, he recovered and he's fine after.
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They were able to help him and that was neat.
oh
a little bit about some cultural moments that you've had where it's just been hystericalin the eyes of an American.
Every day.
I'm going to tell them the frog story.
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Okay.
So when we first got there after a few weeks, we got a bunch of chickens.
We bought some chickens from a lady and there was already a chicken coop in our our yard.
So we had the chickens in there.
Well, after, you know, several weeks or months, I don't even really know the time frame,but
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We ended up hatching like a bunch of chickies, like 18 chickies.
And it was like really great.
And so um they would go in this spot that was completely closed off at night.
um There was no way for anything to get in or out.
And they would stay there at night.
It was all fenced in.
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um But then I noticed them starting to get sick and they just started dying off, all thesechickies.
And we ended up with two chickies left out of 18.
And so one of the guys in the village, Lustin, his name is, he was like, you know what Ithink the problem is?
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I think it's a frog.
A frog's licking your chickens at night.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
He's like, yeah, frogs, they lick the chickens and it could kill them because they'revenomous.
The frogs are venomous.
And I'm like, I mean, they're not like poison dart frogs.
They're talking about toads, you know?
Yeah.
I'm like, okay, last and I'm like, it's all closed off.
There's nothing that can get in there, but frogs were licking them apparently.
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So, you know, we just time went on.
We ended up building another chicken coop and moved all the chickens over and he wastearing it down one day and he says, here, come here, And I said, and he's like, look at
this.
And he had taken everything down and the posts that were in the ground, the
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post that was in that spot, was opened to where the chickies stayed at night.
There was a toad living in there.
It had rotted out and there was a toad.
I was like, oh my gosh.
then, you know, they say.
Because sure enough it was a tone so I'm you know I believe a lot.
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Yeah I was looking at your face.
That is so crazy.
So yeah, that was one thing.
Culturally, was like, you know, they just all of Honduras thinks that the frogs are thinkfrogs are poisonous, you know, they're scared of frogs.
But I was like, with reason.
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So.
Yeah.
at that.
Not just superstition.
Are there some weird belief systems that you've encountered being there where you're like,why would you think that?
it's just things that are maybe superstitious?
Yeah, they have lots of superstitions and there's some kind of witchcraft stuff mixed inin their beliefs and like they do the when the baby's born or an animal even sometimes
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they'll do tie a red band around their wrists so you can see the wrist first before youlook at the baby.
To keep ward evil spirits off.
Snake bites, if you get bit by a snake, like you can't look at the person or you're gonnadie.
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Yeah, like pregnant women.
Pregnant women can't look at a person.
So there was one woman who her son, her one and a half year old got bit by a snake.
And she was in there, but she would not look at him because she was pregnant.
And she was like, my baby's gonna die if I look at him.
So she was like very standoffish and not wanting to interact with her son who was bittenby a snake because
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she thought her baby in utero was gonna die.
So, I mean, there's lots, of course, lots of like what we would call old wives' tales.
know, people will say, you know, with this hack, I'm kind of not thinking.
um I can't think of like anything in particular, but you know, like us, we have, you walkunder a ladder or if a black cat walks in front of you, you know, things like that, that
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nobody really believes that, but people say that, you know?
So there's things like that, but.
uh
Yeah, there are more serious things like the snake thing.
had a worker, a cattle ranch owner, his worker got bit by a snake and he needed to betransported to the hospital in an airplane and he did not want to get in the airplane with
him.
He's like, I can't get in.
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I'm going to die.
Because the guy's getting bitten.
Or his wife.
Because it's something about pregnant women.
But they do say that snakes will chase after pregnant women.
Really?
I mean, I don't know that might actually be something because of hormones.
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I don't, oh I wouldn't totally discount that one, oh but people say that.
I'm like, might actually be true.
I can see how that could be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's in Revelations.
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Now, Candace, you have made a great friend who um is your Uber Eats driver.
Would you talk about him?
Yes, so when we first moved to Roostroos, the Stephen and Brad are our teammate.
They were going every at least every two weeks to go get groceries.
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Take that five hour at that point.
It was five to six hour drive because the roads were bad oh and they were going every twoweeks about to get groceries and then not too long, probably several months into living
there.
we met Guy Rye and he used to work for MAG.
He used to be the administrator for the hospital, our clinic in um Roos Roos and then umhe's a pastor.
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But he also has a ranch past our village.
So he comes with his cattle truck empty, fills up with cattle and then goes back toLampira.
And um so he was like, look, if y'all ever need anything, I can pick up your groceries.
I can go to the hardware store for you.
So now we what's up for grocery grocery list, which I just did this morning because we'reabout to head back and oh he goes pick it up and drops it off.
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And it's like Instacart of La Moskitia in a cattle truck.
But, you know, I'm not complaining.
No, and did it come, I think I saw a video that you shared of it coming over in a um boat.
No, well, no, he, he, he transported cattle on a boat.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I have no, I would love to go on that trip with him to see how they get them in and out.
Oh my gosh.
It's a 25 foot boat probably, huh?
That's like three feet wide enough to fit two cows side by side.
No, no.
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He's brave.
one angry cow, and you're in the water.
Well, y'all have touched a little bit about our Candice you have about the Lord's teachingyou to trust him um with your kids.
Would you talk maybe a little bit about um some of the things he's taught you outside ofthat about trusting him in a foreign place so far away from family, so far away from
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convenience?
I feel like a lot of it, you know, your life just has to be kind of
holding on loosely if you hold on at all.
Yeah, yeah, I think everything is, it's not just being flexible is being fluid, you know,things change so quickly, you know, and especially the nature of what we do is, you know,
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I mean, you just have to be ready at any time, you know, something comes in the villagethat you mean, you're just doing life as normal.
And then, you know, all of a sudden, you're 100 miles an hour, you know, so
Yeah, I think that's one thing that, um, goddess taught us.
mean, when we first moved there, it was the kids really adjusted probably faster than Idid.
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They fell in love and they were like, we'd love this place wide open spaces.
They were getting to play all the time, but, um, it took me a little while to findcontentment.
And, um, so I wrestled with that for a while just because, you know, I missed
going to meet my friends at coffee shops or just being able to go to the grocery storeanytime I wanted.
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So it did, but he gave me this verse and I clung to that and I spoke it so often so thatit would become truth.
it was, God makes everything beautiful in its own time.
And you know, when you when he first would have asked me, you know, people asked me, doyou love it there?
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One of my missionary friends in in Honduras, she's like, do you love it there?
was like, love is a strong word.
But now I can say that I do because he's made it beautiful in its time, you know, so Ijust I'm so grateful for that, that he, you know, I can't even imagine us doing anything
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else.
So.
I'm just so blessed by that, that he, you know, it's what he did to change me.
He didn't change anything in our situation.
He changed me, you know, and that was, that's the big takeaway that it says that he needsto change.
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Yeah, it's true.
What about you, Steven?
Yeah, just I think before we left, I had a moment where I had to, like, I felt God to say,I mean, you have to, are you going to trust me even if something really bad happens?
Like, and I mean, I had to just come to the realization that, I mean, I have to because, Imean, everything is in his hands and he's going to work everything for his good, good
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things and bad things.
which I've gotten to see how God um can work bad situations into good.
um Being able look back at things that have happened and see how he connects the dots andworks in the background whenever we don't see anything.
Sometimes we're just seeing a wall and we're just trying to push through or go around itor wait and knock at the door.
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And he's working something from another corner from a different way.
And if that didn't.
if we weren't waiting and uh something, an inconvenience or something didn't happen, thenwe wouldn't have gotten the answer to our prayer or whatever it is, or an answer for
someone else.
um And so just making the decision to say, yes, I trust you with everything.
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ah And it's a daily thing too.
Not just a one-time decision.
It's kind of, you know.
Yeah, and one thing with trust that I remember that I guess was just, you know, a questionasked by the Holy Spirit, like, you know, in the preparation and in the process, like,
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God, can I really trust you?
And then he's like, who are you going to trust yourself?
Like, do you have all the ability to control your life and to protect your childrencompletely?
You know, like I...
you know, so that really brought it into perspective.
Like I can't do anything, anything more, but obviously a lot less than God can, you know,so, um, so that was, I remember.
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a good word.
And you have been homeschooling your kids there.
How has that been?
Challenges with the internet, challenges with, I don't know.
ah I can't even imagine what the challenges are.
lots of challenges for sure.
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Yeah, at the beginning, internet was really spotty.
mean, we had a lot of our stuff was in book form, but we did have some things that wereonline.
And, you know, when when our internet would go out for like a month at a time, the kidswere like, I can't do my work, mom, the internet's not working.
So
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Yeah, but now we have Starlink, so that's a huge help and we never run out.
Although on cloudy days, it does affect it some.
It's a lot slower sometimes.
There's probably two years or so before we got good internet.
Yeah, least.
And battery power.
We were running on generator at first.
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Sometimes we run the generator 12 hours a day and it was just way too expensive.
ended up getting...
We have solar now with some pretty good batteries.
uh
And so we have power every day for the most part.
m
you keep him motivated?
Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, it's definitely I feel like from older kids, you know, because we've alwayswe've always homeschooled um from older kids.
I felt like I was a lot funner homeschooling.
And now my second set or second set Jojo and simple, you know, we had the first three andthey were really close.
And then five years later, we had the second set.
So I'm like, man, I'm not as fun of a homeschool mom as I used to be.
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I'm like, let's just get this done.
Let's just get this done because it's really hard to balance.
for me it's hard to balance the like the ministry and the people who always need you overyou know and trying to get your kids.
So this year I think I did a better job than previous years of like putting boundaries andsaying hey look no I can't come in right now I can't go to the clinic or they're gonna
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have to wait you know if it was an emergency.
Sorry I'm schooling with my kids right now you know so um
I did a better job with that this year and so last year.
I think this year my focus is going to be just to be a funner to do funner stuff with mylittle kids.
Well, I think that's an excellent thing.
I can't imagine, I mean, you got to give yourself some grace in that too, because youtalked about how much um the local people require kind of continual relationships.
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So it's got to be a really hard thing to balance, like saying, how do I put up boundaries?
How do I say no, if I know that maybe this boundary is going to cause me, you know, alittle more difficulty in connecting the next time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think it's also just being upfront and honest with people like, you know, like notexpecting them to know and understand what we're doing, you know, but just saying, hey,
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look, I this is what I'm working on right now.
I need to be able to do this, you know, and then, you know, I think people what I'venoticed is that
you if they may not have understood what you were doing before and then you explain it andthey're like, oh, well, that makes sense.
Okay.
See, yeah, go ahead.
You know?
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So, um, so yeah.
But you have to, because they don't know their, uh, they don't know boundaries.
And if they need something, they're going to come to you and just say, and you could be inthe middle of surgery, like doing something and they're just go, Hey, what are you, can
you help me with this?
you.
No, they really don't.
mean, but that's their culture.
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You know, they're just always at each other's houses.
Like I remember our nurse, was she's a Moskito and she was sick one weekend and she waslike aching, you know, she was in bed, but there were kids in her house, like village kids
just hanging out and playing at her house.
And I'm like, it's a limo.
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Why are you letting all these kids in your house?
She's like, oh, they just always come over.
And so it was, it's just different.
You know what mean?
They just, they're just very communal and they just are at each other's house all the timeand visiting and it doesn't, there really are not many boundaries.
And there's not really, there's not a, I don't think in this culture, there's even a valueof privacy.
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Like they don't even know what that would mean, privacy, you know?
So.
that's a culture shock.
Yes, as Americans, we value our privacy, right?
And so uh it's a very, it's a very, it's something that we have to balance, you know,because we want to be involved in the community and we want them to trust us and to want
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to come to us.
But also, you know, we do like privacy too.
Yeah.
But we do have the, we have some missionary friends in across the border in Nicaragua, butthey are fully living like Moskito She said, yeah, we have people in our house all the
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time from the time we wake up to the time we go to sleep.
Like there's people in our house.
And so that's, we haven't gotten to that level, you know?
And I really admire her for that.
But we do still try to, you know.
cultivate those relationships.
Yeah, and there's another missionary family on your base, like close by, right?
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So that's got to be kind of in a way a lifeline of just like we can connect on some mainpoints of mutual understanding, you know, not like it's just different when you come from
a similar cultural background.
cool.
Well, you all shared a video with me and I thought I would take the opportunity to playthe video.
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I'll go.
and give people a little flavor of what your life is like.
So let me play that now.
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Okay.
you
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.
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Okay.
Okay.
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What beautiful people, what beautiful country.
I mean, it's just amazing.
And one thing I was really struck by is that it's not a convenient place to live.
I can see that.
But it seems like the lack of convenience is what causes community to be necessary, right?
And you think about our own culture and how convenience has actually separated us frompeople.
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It's allowed us to not have to live.
in community, but we were made to live in community.
We were made to rely on each other.
And I think we've make our own lives more difficult and less fulfilling by being such anAmazon, Uber Eats type of culture.
You you really lose human connection.
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How would you describe the people?
I mean, it looks like it's a very joyful people.
Mm hmm.
yeah, for sure.
um I mean, yeah, life is hard.
And I feel like in our community, there is just a blessing of, don't know, just a spiritof blessing.
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I there's definitely people who have it hard.
You know, I their lives are harder than everybody else's, but they're accustomed to thatway of life.
You know, I mean, they're hard compared to what we think, you know, and uh
you know, having to wash clothes in the river, wash their dishes in the river, you know,that's every day for them.
But, um you know, and when we had to do that, that was really hard, you know.
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But for them, it's just their way of life, you know, it's just normal.
um So I forgot where it was going with that.
yeah, joyful people.
But yeah, I mean,
The kids are always smiling and laughing.
I mean, they're laughing at everything, even at the expense of people sometimes becausethey're just so joyful.
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Yeah.
And initially when you would maybe come across uh mosquitoes and they, you know, they justhave that resting, mean looking face, you know, but then whenever you start talking to
them.
They're just the sweetest people, you know?
And so uh it's easy to view them a certain way, but like you saw in the video with, youknow, them receiving things or playing or, you know, em being in a VBS, being in a church
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service, yeah, their demeanor just changes and em yeah, they're beautiful people.
where you em had to let go of like maybe some kind of instinct to save people from theirown lives?
You know, like you see how hard life is and you just maybe want to fix it for everybody.
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But there's no way you can.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
yeah, absolutely.
There's what we call um in missions or maybe anywhere a savior complex, you know, that youwant to do, do you want to give, give, give.
And, you know, we've definitely learned that being there and living full time, like youcan't just give everything to everybody, you know, like it's just not sustainable.
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Yeah.
Healthy, know, it's not healthy for the people, it's not healthy for you as a missionary,you know, like it's fine to bless people and to, you know, to be a conduit of somebody
else giving to them, you know, that's fine.
But, but to always being receiving things for free or receiving, you know, that's not ahealthy way of life, you know.
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And we have seen how that has backfired in a lot of areas, you know, and
So you just have to have discernment, have wisdom on when to do things, when it's okay togive, when the Holy Spirit leads you to do it.
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But...
It just depends.
And there's different projects that have come in and just gave and left and they don'twork.
Things are just sitting there.
Because they didn't really want it in the first place, but it was somebody's cool idea andit would help, but that's just not how they do things.
Nobody's there to help cultivate that and there was no ownership in the project.
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like people who have flown in to help or something, but then.
not even like our organization or worked with us, just different groups that come into thearea.
Really good ideas and stuff, but it's just good work there.
Yeah, and you kind of see that across the board in missions in general.
You know, you hear that a lot.
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You know, I don't know that a lot of people hear that, but um I guess being in missions,you do hear that, you know, like this is
It's not so great to just pour out pounds and pounds of clothes, you know, for people, youknow, like it's just not...
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It's not healthy for the community.
And there's a book, actually a book called When Helping Hurts.
And it's a really good book.
And they also have When Healthcare Hurts.
And we're just kind of seeing that playing out live in our lives, you know.
So it's really just discernment.
And uh we always have to pray to know what decisions to make, you know.
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Yeah, are you seeing the fruit of your work?
Are you seeing people's lives changed or people feel, are you seeing people maybe morediscipled or are coming uh with more Augusto to faith?
Yeah, we were just uh talking about this when we do a medical brigade every year and weshow a Jesus film during the nights.
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And this year we had 30 people give their lives to Christ during that week.
But it's not just like what we're seeing, it's other communities like that.
Our pastor friend who brings our groceries, he said that they had gone to differentvillages.
going door to door and they were seeing people be saved.
And another village about an hour from us had some night, night crusades and they wereseeing people be saved.
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So yeah, I mean, God's moving even though, you know, on the day to day, we kind of feellike what are you doing God?
But, you know, looking back, we're um we're just seeing God change little by little, youknow.
In the video there was, we had done a...
we had hosted a marriage conference.
had two pastors and their wives come in from the interior in Honduras and we did amarriage conference.
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And that was a big deal because they don't really have those.
There's no marriage conferences happening.
There's a lot of church conferences, but with a specific um context of marriage, theydon't have that.
So there's a lot of people, most people aren't married, even though they might have beenwith each other for a long time.
they're not married, after that, at end of the year last year, there were five couples whocommitted to marriage.
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um They had marriage ceremony, wedding ceremonies, and they committed after years of beingtogether.
So that was...
um
Hey Sybil.
She's showing us her loose teeth.
Is it to fall out?
(52:29):
Okay.
All right.
We'll do that after.
Well, a lot of your work is dangerous.
What advice or wisdom would you give to people who may be sitting on the sidelines, maybenot following an instruction from the Lord to do something because of fear?
(52:58):
I it's, I don't know about dangerous, but it's not...
um
If you're in the will of God, mean, God's gonna be with you.
I mean, it's not to say that you're gonna be protected from any kind of harm.
mean, anything we do, there's gonna be risk in it.
I mean, just going to work in your car, there's risk.
(53:19):
Every time I get on the road, I'm like, man, how can you?
Like, we have to have more faith in everybody else on the road that they're not gonna hitus or they're not gonna do something silly, or if they're drinking or, know, like that has
to be way more, but.
oh
When God asks you to do something, it's going to be uncomfortable.
And so we just, one thing I try to teach the kids is to do, be comfortable beinguncomfortable.
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Cause anything God asks you to do is going to be bigger than, than you, or it's not goingto be worth doing.
And so it's just going to be of you but whenever he asks you to do something, um, it'susually going to be out of your comfort zone.
And so that's, um, big things anyway.
So that way he can show up and he can get the glory for it.
And you can say, that definitely wasn't me.
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m Like that's all that's all God's work and that's just how he chooses to work and so justto I think as we spend more time with them ah in the quiet and just knowing that he's
gonna show up and have an expectancy for him to to do what he does uh and put ourselvesaside and let him and move then we can start seeing things more and so as he has to do
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something small we can step out and do it and then
who ask us to do other things.
Yeah, and how has God surprised you lately?
Um, man, just, well, he, being here, we've been on furlough for several um months and justsurprised us with, um, just new people who have just really wholeheartedly jumped on with
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the vision and really, wanted to join the team being partners, you know, that's been sucha huge.
huge thing.
um Last, I don't know if you remember in the video where we were building a learningcenter and we're gonna use that for like um tutoring or just continuing education, uh
(55:29):
conferences, know, the options are endless, you know, but uh one of our...
Yeah, one thing Brad, whenever Brad was visiting the village,
God gave him a word and said he felt like God said, you guys are gonna use this buildingjust to reach more people, not just in the village, and that's an outreach.
(55:51):
And so he was just like, okay.
And he didn't have any context to it or anything.
so.
But one of our supporters, she works for one of the Texas school districts and they weregetting rid of a bunch of tech, so they donated like 30 iPads, 30 Chromebooks, and two
like big.
Promethean boards.
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m And we're like, we're just finishing up this learning center.
I'm like, I don't know what we're going to do with this.
Like, I mean, we do have a vision what we could use it for, but we're just, we know by nowthat God is always preparing his way.
And so we're like, okay, let's get, you know, receive those.
And so those are going to be, I think, really great resources.
(56:33):
And I'm just excited to see like what God's going to do with it.
So.
Amazing.
Well, how can people support you as you are his hands and feet?
um Not just for him, but for us um in La Moskitia, in Rus Rus.
(56:55):
Well, there are several ways to give if I don't know we can maybe put the link on there Imean prayer is definitely the biggest because we You know a lot of times we come across
like you said dangerous situations dangerous things and we need Discernment on how to dealwith it Discernment and wisdom on what to say what to do at the time.
(57:19):
So
just his covering and his blessing over us that he would establish the work of our hands.
um And then you can also join in um like monthly or one-time gifts as um on the MAGwebsite and support.
(57:39):
And for those who are listening, if you're just listening, it's flymag.org,F-L-Y-M-A-G.org.
Yes.
And there's, you know, when you go to give there's several, several options and severalways to give on there.
So, yeah.
Well, thank you both so much for coming on.
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It's just such a pleasure.
It's such a gift to spend some time with you and just hear how God's working in yourlives, but also how He's using you and what He's teaching you because it challenges us.
It challenges me to know that you guys have been so faithful and you constantly have tostep out on faith every day.
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is a faith step, know, m living where you're living and serving the people you're serving.
So thank you for loving the people of La Moskitia.
Thank you for being such a blessing to them for um the work that you're doing um in healthcare, but also the work you're doing just sharing the love of Christ, which is the main
thing, the absolute main thing.
(58:47):
So God bless you and I will, I think I'll see you later this afternoon.
Yep.
good.
Thank you, Dan.
Thank you so much.
I love you.
And just a reminder to everyone watching, the state of freedom will be back here live at10 a.m.
Central tomorrow.
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We will be speaking with Dr.
Mary Talley-Boden about the Maha agenda and the future of hopefully seeing someaccountability for all that went down that was so horrible during COVID.
So please tune into us tomorrow.
um We look forward to being back here with you.
(59:28):
All right, God bless.
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