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October 6, 2023 72 mins

Author Adharanand Finn chats with Iliass Aouani, who recently broke the Italian marathon record, running 2:07 in only his third marathon. The former Syracuse University standout talks about his Moroccan heritage, running in super shoes, missing his training group and his plans to take on the Kenyans. Ultra runner Damian Hall also joins us to talk about his recent efforts in the 330km Tor des Géants. Music by Starfrosch

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