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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to The Quick and the Weird. This
is usually reserved for Patreon homies, but we're putting this
one out for Christmas since Mike has got a Christmas
the subject to cover, which when I'm excited to cover,
the little boy is is excited to effort.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, it's it's Christmas time, God damn it. And I
and I know we've been lately slacking on the episodes,
and so we figured this month we'll fucking put one
out every week because why not, look at us going
back to the old ways. But you know, unfortunately, this
(01:16):
will not be your typical full episode. This is the
Quick in the Weird for anybody who's new. Quick in
the Weird is a series that we do over on Patreon,
and it's basically, we'll just take these little like kind
of one off cases where there's not a whole lot
of to go on, definitely not enough to make a
(01:36):
full episode out of, and we'll just talk about it
and release it on Patreon. They're a little more loose,
and this one in particular, there's this is mostly other
people's stories, but I thought it would be an interesting conversation. Nonetheless,
so I just like I said, we we might how
(02:04):
do I how do I put this? Buttaio, this isn't
stuff that's vetted. I guess we'll we'll start there this.
I found this subreddit that was all about Santa Claus encounters,
but not like, not like I saw Santa Claus delivering
presence or I had a conversation with Santa Claus, or
(02:26):
Santa Claus is hunt hunting my closet, nothing like that.
It's just kind of the like these weird things that
maybe were Santa Claus, maybe not. But there was one
story I read in particular that reminded me of of
Mateo's Easter Bunny story. And when I read that, I'm like,
oh dude, we got to cover this on quick in
(02:47):
the weird at the very released and then we kind
of we literally right before we recorded this, decided that
we were going to release this too to everyone so
that you can all participate in the Christmas Eve weirdness.
So this we're recording this three days before Christmas, so
I'm assuming that this will probably be out in the
(03:10):
next day or two. So either the day before Christmas
Eve or Christmas Eve, this should probably be out or
maybe Christmas Day, maybe you're listening to this while you're
opening presents. Oh yeah, that would be That would be
so sad. And I hope that you're not listening to
this while opening Christmas presents because you know, we say
(03:32):
some some very naughty words, and I don't want to
offend your children.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, Nana's here, bro, you got to ane.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That being said. Fuck them kids and Nana. I hope
you break a hip Nana, bitch. No, I'm just kidding.
I'm sure your nana is very sweet and she probably
has a really awesome oatmeal cookie recipe. I don't even
know her, but I just I feel like that's the thing. Anyway,
(03:59):
with all that Christmas cheer out of the way, let's
let's talk about Santa. So we all we all know
Santa isn't real, but is it possible that either Santa
could be a talpa or that other sort of entities
(04:21):
might take on the appearance of Santa.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I gotta say, even though that you got these off
a Reddit list, this is a really bizarre thing to
claim to have seen Aliens. Sure that can bring popularity
a book deal, like we've talked about one hundred times
on the show, But don't you think that's when that's
a little bit out there, like that most of the
time you're going to look that strange saying you saw
(04:46):
Santa Claus.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Right, yeah, definitely, And but I guess it's all in
dependent on the context. Like if you're if you see
something weird and you're like, it could have been Santa,
you know, or or like you saying there was I
(05:08):
saw Santa and his elves and his reindeer like in
my backyard and they were they were loading presents and
I witnessed it. Like that's that's one thing. But if
you were to say, like I saw a glowing object
with what looked to be some animals pulling it in
the sky, what's that all about?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It is And I think that's why I find it
a little bit more interesting than like a Santa encounter,
more than an alien or creature encounter. There's a possibility
that aliens exist. There is no possibility that what we
know traditionally as Santa Claus exists. So to hear somebody
say I saw Santa, my ears are perked.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So the first story that I read was from this
old woman who, well the old woman wasn't telling the story.
Someone was telling it. Who knew the old woman, But
she had this story that when she was a little girl,
she was out walking alone and she heard sleigh bells,
(06:10):
like you know, just jingle bells, and it sounded like
it was coming from the sky. So she looked up
and she saw what appeared to be a sleigh with
white reindeer pulling it. And she said, it looked like
this muscular like lumberjack guy wearing a green hat holding
(06:31):
a magic wand and they flew over and out of sight,
and that was it. She did see it. Land didn't
see didn't didn't see it, do anything else, just this
object flying with what appeared to be deer pulling it. Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, And she's how old did she say it?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Just said that she was an elderly woman, but she
saw it when she was a little girl.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh, just a little girl. Okay, So she's not on
acid or drunk out in the woods now.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But the other the other there was another story on
there that was kind of similar. But this this was
a kid who he was five or six at the
time that he saw and he was looking out his
window on Christmas Eve like like kids do, looking for Santa,
and he ran he saw this glowing thing flying through
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the sky and he ran and told his mom, like, Mom,
I just saw Santa. And she's like, oh, yeah, sure
of course you did. And so he kept this memory
in his head, and he said when he grew older,
like when he was a teenager, he brought this up
to his mom again and she's like, oh, you probably
(07:44):
just saw a plane. And I was just playing along
with you. But he said, in his memory, what he
saw was this glowing light that seemed to be it
looked like it was being pulled by something. He said,
he was it was too far away to make out
the details, but he saw this glowing light that was
being It looked like it was trailing behind something. And
(08:07):
he said it wasn't flying steady like a plane like
he said, it was like how you would imagine if
you were to actually see someone in a flying sleigh
flying through the air, like where it was moving, you know,
kind of bobbing up and down as it's going. And
he watched it until it went out of sight, and
(08:27):
he didn't, you know, there, he didn't see it land.
It wasn't anything like that. He just saw this object
in the sky on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Wow of all days.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, But I'm curious about it though, because I'm like,
I don't want to go through every one of these
stories here, because there's a lot of stories that are
that are the same. But the thing that really gets
me and and kind of like it makes me wonder
if there's maybe more to it, because well, for one,
(09:00):
most of these stories are being reported by kids that are,
you know, of the age where they would believe in Santa.
So memory. We've talked about memory and how unreliable your
memory can be. So even if you saw something as
a kid, and you remember it as a kid because
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it seemed so weird to you at the time, and
you're thinking back, you know, and you're remembering things how
you perceived it as a child, Like, for instance, I
remember as a child seeing a pterodactyl flying in the sky,
and my memory, I can see it perfectly clear. I
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remember exactly what it looked like in my head when
I was a little kid. But with that being said,
now being an adult and having knowledge of the world
around me, I know what I saw as a kid
was actually a crane. But I didn't know what a
crane was when I saw it as a kid. This
was my first time seeing a crane. So to me,
(10:03):
seeing this crazy fucking bird flying over my head, it
looked like a fucking pterodactyl. So that's what I thought.
It was a pterodactyl. And uh, but I know that
wasn't the case. So I wonder how many of things
are like this, like where people are seeing something or
maybe maybe they're you know, let's let's say they are
(10:24):
seeing something really strange that's not there, but maybe it
maybe it's like a UFO, you know, and and in
their little kid had they're like that that's not a plane,
that that doesn't have the blinky lights, or that's moving weird,
and what they were seeing was a UFO. But because
it was Christmas Eve and they're thinking about Santa, that's
what's in their head. Was I saw what I saw
(10:48):
fucking Santa, But really you saw goddamn alien.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Wow, that's an interesting way to look at it. Yeah,
I wonder how many Santa sightings were actually UFO side.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But also I wonder about you know that we've talked
about Tulpa's before, and I wonder when when we're talking
about sightings of of this sort, like the fact that
all these people are reporting seeing it when they are
of age that they're going to believe in Santa Claus
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and they're reporting it, you know, Like I said, it
could very well be misidentification and then false memory. But
also with that many children thinking about this entity on
this particular evening, is it possible that the collective consciousness
could come together and put form to this, to these thoughts,
(11:45):
and create like a tulpa of Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, I mean that's the basis of like most holiday movies, right,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Maybe, yeah, I mean in that case, but usually in
those cases, it's not a tulpa. It's a real thing
that was just brought together, but based on the need
of children.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Right right, Yeah, I mean we've talked about Tulpa Mancy
in depth on the show many times, and I think
something like that could definitely happen. There's too many examples
and weird things that have happened related to toulpomancy for
me not to consider it seriously.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, And and the weird thing about some stuff with
with Tulpa Mancy, especially if you let your your tulpa
get out of control, some of these end up becoming
negatively corrupted if they don't receive attention, and they'll kind
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of take on like, uh, become an evil entity, so
to speak, if they don't have like like say, they
were created for like as an imaginary friend, for instance.
And we've we've heard of ghost stories where the imaginary
friend turns on them as they get older because they
(13:02):
stop believing in it. But what if there's some truth
to that. You know, you created this thing to be
your constant companion and be there, and you play with it,
and you talk to it, and and basically you're you're
creating this other thing. It just exists in your imagination
or in your own mind, but it's you know, it's
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your creation. And there's a lot of cases where like
possessions and hauntings will take place, but they start as
like an imaginary friends sort of situation. And then as
the imaginary friend starts I don't know if I want
to say, becoming more real or taking taking hold of
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the child, or maybe just becoming more fleshed out, I
don't know, but then things kind of start to escalate.
So I wonder if maybe it's that sort of thing
where the child realizes that it was just an imaginary construct,
but they've given so much energy to this thing that
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now when they're withdrawing, they're kind of cutting off its
source of energy, so it becomes desperate. And you know,
a lot of hauntings and things like that, they seem
to feed on negative energy. So maybe it's just like
it's like that asshole little kid in class when when
you're in elementary school who couldn't get good attention, so
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he just would do whatever to get attention, period, and
that that was, you know, just feed off the attention.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, I believe it. I can buy it, you know, they.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So I don't. I mean, I don't necessarily have any
stories of Santa attacking anyone, but but I did. There
was a story that I did read that and and
again this was the one that reminded me of your
Easter Bunny story and the whole reason I wanted to
(15:07):
talk about this, but there was someone in this thread
that was talking about their experience seeing Santa when they
were a child and they woke up Christmas morning before
their parents, and you know, like any kid does when
they wake up before their parents on Christmas, they sneak
down to check out under the tree, even though they
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can't open anything yet. You gotta see what's under there,
and so she went down there and she wanted to
see the presence. And she goes down there and she
saw it was it was Santa Claus in like you know,
in full color, but he was transparent, so she was
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able to like see through him. But he was like
almost like a projection of Santa, and he had his
back towards her, and he was facing the fireplace, and
she started to creep down the hall and he slowly
started to turn his head to the side, and she
didn't want to be seen by him, so she ran
(16:11):
into her parents' room and got all pumped and was like,
Santa is here. We gotta we gotta get up. Santa's here,
and her parents are like, well, he might still have
to eat the cookies, so we should go back to bed.
And so she went back to bed, but she couldn't
get back to sleep, and she never heard him leave.
She never you know, and that was that was it.
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But she later really this was her first memory of
anything paranormal happening, But she said as she grew older,
she started to realize that her house was haunted and
there were other paranormal things that happened, and In fact,
there was even something similar to this event that happened
to her, but it was in the middle of the night.
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She woke up and she saw her brother walking down
the hallway, but it was again a transparent version of him,
but he was in full color, wearing the same pajamas
he was wearing to bed that night, but he was
completely see through and he just walked into a mirror
and disappeared.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Wow, a mirror. Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah. She did say that there was a Ouiji board
in the house and they did used to fuck around
with it when they were kids, but she doesn't necessarily
know if that has anything to do with it or not.
But there were a lot of she said, while she
was living there, she had a lot of different paranormal experiences.
(17:42):
And I know when you were growing up in your house,
you also had a lot of paranormal experiences and witnessed
the Easter Bunny. So yeah, that's you know that. That's
my second theory. Maybe these are entities that are aware
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of our thoughts, or are aware of our fantasies or
our fears, and they're able to kind of latch onto
that and form themselves accordingly.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Right or even even somehow gather information to appear as
less offensive as possible too.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, or a way to try to gain the trust
of a child so that later they can draw the
energy from it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right to a child telling your parents you saw the
Easter body or Santa Claus is as good as adults
saying they were adopted by aliens.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
But also it's if a kid says that to you're like, oh,
that's that's cute. They're right, they're looking forward to the holiday,
you know, they're getting excited. And meanwhile the kids like
that shit is really fucking happening, and the adults just like,
they're so there's they've got such a good imagination.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yep, it's just instantly played off or credited to something else. Yeah, yeah,
very interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, I don't know really, uh what else to make
of it. It's I mean, sure, you can just go
the the standard round and say these are just kids
and they're remembering things wrong, like me remembering the pterodactyl
that was actually a crane. But what if they're not.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, absolutely, that's how I that's how I take me
seeing the Easter bunny. I did, I did see it.
I can redraw it I fucking remade it in VR
for people to go look at if you want to.
But I know it wasn't the Easter bunny.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Dun dun da da duh.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So you know, if your kids are telling you they're
seeing Santa tonight or tomorrow or whenever you're listening to this,
maybe maybe they're not full of shit. Yeah. Here's the
one thing that none of these stories say about Santa,
and that's that Santa actually left them anything that their
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parents hadn't bought them. Like, there's no stories of my
parents are like, I have no idea where this, where
this whatever came from. I didn't buy that. And you know,
there there's nothing like that. Santa isn't leaving magic. He's
just like rolling up being like, yo, where where the
cookies at?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He noticed that parents were buying all this shit in
the forties. Yeah, fuck this, I'm getting fit all night.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah. And you know, if parents woke up and the
next day and the cookies weren't there, they would probably
just assume that their kids took the cookies and wouldn't
say anything about it to keep the magic of Christmas alive. Meanwhile,
the kids like, oh my god, Santa ate my cookies
and their parents are like, oh, little Timmy, we know
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you took those cookies. And meanwhile he's like, I didn't
take any cookies. Santa took those, and no one ever
knew that it was secretly, really Santa that took those cookies.
The kid grows up and he's like, oh, remember every
year you would take the cookies away, so that so
that I would think Santa took and their parents like, no, actually,
you were the one that took the cookies away, and
the kids like, I don't. I don't have any memory
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of that, and then it just, you know, one of
those things, It just gets chucked up to kids being kids. Yeah,
but in reality, it was Tulpa.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Claus Topa Claus roaming free.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, roaming free. He's walking down your hallways, ringing the bells,
getting muddy footprints all over your carpet, leaving deer shit
in the yard. Tulpa Santa is an asshole.
Hey, everybody, Welcome to The Quick and the Weird. This
is usually reserved for Patreon homies, but we're putting this
one out for Christmas since Mike has got a Christmas
the subject to cover, which when I'm excited to cover,
the little boy is is excited to effort.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, it's it's Christmas time, God damn it. And I
and I know we've been lately slacking on the episodes,
and so we figured this month we'll fucking put one
out every week because why not, look at us going
back to the old ways. But you know, unfortunately, this
(01:16):
will not be your typical full episode. This is the
Quick in the Weird for anybody who's new. Quick in
the Weird is a series that we do over on Patreon,
and it's basically, we'll just take these little like kind
of one off cases where there's not a whole lot
of to go on, definitely not enough to make a
(01:36):
full episode out of, and we'll just talk about it
and release it on Patreon. They're a little more loose,
and this one in particular, there's this is mostly other
people's stories, but I thought it would be an interesting conversation. Nonetheless,
so I just like I said, we we might how
(02:04):
do I how do I put this? Buttaio, this isn't
stuff that's vetted. I guess we'll we'll start there this.
I found this subreddit that was all about Santa Claus encounters,
but not like, not like I saw Santa Claus delivering
presence or I had a conversation with Santa Claus, or
(02:26):
Santa Claus is hunt hunting my closet, nothing like that.
It's just kind of the like these weird things that
maybe were Santa Claus, maybe not. But there was one
story I read in particular that reminded me of of
Mateo's Easter Bunny story. And when I read that, I'm like,
oh dude, we got to cover this on quick in
(02:47):
the weird at the very released and then we kind
of we literally right before we recorded this, decided that
we were going to release this too to everyone so
that you can all participate in the Christmas Eve weirdness.
So this we're recording this three days before Christmas, so
I'm assuming that this will probably be out in the
(03:10):
next day or two. So either the day before Christmas
Eve or Christmas Eve, this should probably be out or
maybe Christmas Day, maybe you're listening to this while you're
opening presents. Oh yeah, that would be That would be
so sad. And I hope that you're not listening to
this while opening Christmas presents because you know, we say
(03:32):
some some very naughty words, and I don't want to
offend your children.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, Nana's here, bro, you got to ane.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That being said. Fuck them kids and Nana. I hope
you break a hip Nana, bitch. No, I'm just kidding.
I'm sure your nana is very sweet and she probably
has a really awesome oatmeal cookie recipe. I don't even
know her, but I just I feel like that's the thing. Anyway,
(03:59):
with all that Christmas cheer out of the way, let's
let's talk about Santa. So we all we all know
Santa isn't real, but is it possible that either Santa
could be a talpa or that other sort of entities
(04:21):
might take on the appearance of Santa.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I gotta say, even though that you got these off
a Reddit list, this is a really bizarre thing to
claim to have seen Aliens. Sure that can bring popularity
a book deal, like we've talked about one hundred times
on the show, But don't you think that's when that's
a little bit out there, like that most of the
time you're going to look that strange saying you saw
(04:46):
Santa Claus.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Right, yeah, definitely, And but I guess it's all in
dependent on the context. Like if you're if you see
something weird and you're like, it could have been Santa,
you know, or or like you saying there was I
(05:08):
saw Santa and his elves and his reindeer like in
my backyard and they were they were loading presents and
I witnessed it. Like that's that's one thing. But if
you were to say, like I saw a glowing object
with what looked to be some animals pulling it in
the sky, what's that all about?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It is And I think that's why I find it
a little bit more interesting than like a Santa encounter,
more than an alien or creature encounter. There's a possibility
that aliens exist. There is no possibility that what we
know traditionally as Santa Claus exists. So to hear somebody
say I saw Santa, my ears are perked.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So the first story that I read was from this
old woman who, well the old woman wasn't telling the story.
Someone was telling it. Who knew the old woman, But
she had this story that when she was a little girl,
she was out walking alone and she heard sleigh bells,
(06:10):
like you know, just jingle bells, and it sounded like
it was coming from the sky. So she looked up
and she saw what appeared to be a sleigh with
white reindeer pulling it. And she said, it looked like
this muscular like lumberjack guy wearing a green hat holding
(06:31):
a magic wand and they flew over and out of sight,
and that was it. She did see it. Land didn't
see didn't didn't see it, do anything else, just this
object flying with what appeared to be deer pulling it. Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, And she's how old did she say it?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Just said that she was an elderly woman, but she
saw it when she was a little girl.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh, just a little girl. Okay, So she's not on
acid or drunk out in the woods now.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But the other the other there was another story on
there that was kind of similar. But this this was
a kid who he was five or six at the
time that he saw and he was looking out his
window on Christmas Eve like like kids do, looking for Santa,
and he ran he saw this glowing thing flying through
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the sky and he ran and told his mom, like, Mom,
I just saw Santa. And she's like, oh, yeah, sure
of course you did. And so he kept this memory
in his head, and he said when he grew older,
like when he was a teenager, he brought this up
to his mom again and she's like, oh, you probably
(07:44):
just saw a plane. And I was just playing along
with you. But he said, in his memory, what he
saw was this glowing light that seemed to be it
looked like it was being pulled by something. He said,
he was it was too far away to make out
the details, but he saw this glowing light that was
being It looked like it was trailing behind something. And
(08:07):
he said it wasn't flying steady like a plane like
he said, it was like how you would imagine if
you were to actually see someone in a flying sleigh
flying through the air, like where it was moving, you know,
kind of bobbing up and down as it's going. And
he watched it until it went out of sight, and
(08:27):
he didn't, you know, there, he didn't see it land.
It wasn't anything like that. He just saw this object
in the sky on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Wow of all days.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, But I'm curious about it though, because I'm like,
I don't want to go through every one of these
stories here, because there's a lot of stories that are
that are the same. But the thing that really gets
me and and kind of like it makes me wonder
if there's maybe more to it, because well, for one,
(09:00):
most of these stories are being reported by kids that are,
you know, of the age where they would believe in Santa.
So memory. We've talked about memory and how unreliable your
memory can be. So even if you saw something as
a kid, and you remember it as a kid because
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it seemed so weird to you at the time, and
you're thinking back, you know, and you're remembering things how
you perceived it as a child, Like, for instance, I
remember as a child seeing a pterodactyl flying in the sky,
and my memory, I can see it perfectly clear. I
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remember exactly what it looked like in my head when
I was a little kid. But with that being said,
now being an adult and having knowledge of the world
around me, I know what I saw as a kid
was actually a crane. But I didn't know what a
crane was when I saw it as a kid. This
was my first time seeing a crane. So to me,
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seeing this crazy fucking bird flying over my head, it
looked like a fucking pterodactyl. So that's what I thought.
It was a pterodactyl. And uh, but I know that
wasn't the case. So I wonder how many of things
are like this, like where people are seeing something or
maybe maybe they're you know, let's let's say they are
(10:24):
seeing something really strange that's not there, but maybe it
maybe it's like a UFO, you know, and and in
their little kid had they're like that that's not a plane,
that that doesn't have the blinky lights, or that's moving weird,
and what they were seeing was a UFO. But because
it was Christmas Eve and they're thinking about Santa, that's
what's in their head. Was I saw what I saw
(10:48):
fucking Santa, But really you saw goddamn alien.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Wow, that's an interesting way to look at it. Yeah,
I wonder how many Santa sightings were actually UFO side.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But also I wonder about you know that we've talked
about Tulpa's before, and I wonder when when we're talking
about sightings of of this sort, like the fact that
all these people are reporting seeing it when they are
of age that they're going to believe in Santa Claus
(11:20):
and they're reporting it, you know, Like I said, it
could very well be misidentification and then false memory. But
also with that many children thinking about this entity on
this particular evening, is it possible that the collective consciousness
could come together and put form to this, to these thoughts,
(11:45):
and create like a tulpa of Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, I mean that's the basis of like most holiday movies, right,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Maybe, yeah, I mean in that case, but usually in
those cases, it's not a tulpa. It's a real thing
that was just brought together, but based on the need
of children.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Right right, Yeah, I mean we've talked about Tulpa Mancy
in depth on the show many times, and I think
something like that could definitely happen. There's too many examples
and weird things that have happened related to toulpomancy for
me not to consider it seriously.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, And and the weird thing about some stuff with
with Tulpa Mancy, especially if you let your your tulpa
get out of control, some of these end up becoming
negatively corrupted if they don't receive attention, and they'll kind
(12:40):
of take on like, uh, become an evil entity, so
to speak, if they don't have like like say, they
were created for like as an imaginary friend, for instance.
And we've we've heard of ghost stories where the imaginary
friend turns on them as they get older because they
(13:02):
stop believing in it. But what if there's some truth
to that. You know, you created this thing to be
your constant companion and be there, and you play with it,
and you talk to it, and and basically you're you're
creating this other thing. It just exists in your imagination
or in your own mind, but it's you know, it's
(13:25):
your creation. And there's a lot of cases where like
possessions and hauntings will take place, but they start as
like an imaginary friends sort of situation. And then as
the imaginary friend starts I don't know if I want
to say, becoming more real or taking taking hold of
(13:49):
the child, or maybe just becoming more fleshed out, I
don't know, but then things kind of start to escalate.
So I wonder if maybe it's that sort of thing
where the child realizes that it was just an imaginary construct,
but they've given so much energy to this thing that
(14:10):
now when they're withdrawing, they're kind of cutting off its
source of energy, so it becomes desperate. And you know,
a lot of hauntings and things like that, they seem
to feed on negative energy. So maybe it's just like
it's like that asshole little kid in class when when
you're in elementary school who couldn't get good attention, so
(14:33):
he just would do whatever to get attention, period, and
that that was, you know, just feed off the attention.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, I believe it. I can buy it, you know, they.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So I don't. I mean, I don't necessarily have any
stories of Santa attacking anyone, but but I did. There
was a story that I did read that and and
again this was the one that reminded me of your
Easter Bunny story and the whole reason I wanted to
(15:07):
talk about this, but there was someone in this thread
that was talking about their experience seeing Santa when they
were a child and they woke up Christmas morning before
their parents, and you know, like any kid does when
they wake up before their parents on Christmas, they sneak
down to check out under the tree, even though they
(15:28):
can't open anything yet. You gotta see what's under there,
and so she went down there and she wanted to
see the presence. And she goes down there and she
saw it was it was Santa Claus in like you know,
in full color, but he was transparent, so she was
(15:49):
able to like see through him. But he was like
almost like a projection of Santa, and he had his
back towards her, and he was facing the fireplace, and
she started to creep down the hall and he slowly
started to turn his head to the side, and she
didn't want to be seen by him, so she ran
(16:11):
into her parents' room and got all pumped and was like,
Santa is here. We gotta we gotta get up. Santa's here,
and her parents are like, well, he might still have
to eat the cookies, so we should go back to bed.
And so she went back to bed, but she couldn't
get back to sleep, and she never heard him leave.
She never you know, and that was that was it.
(16:35):
But she later really this was her first memory of
anything paranormal happening, But she said as she grew older,
she started to realize that her house was haunted and
there were other paranormal things that happened, and In fact,
there was even something similar to this event that happened
to her, but it was in the middle of the night.
(16:57):
She woke up and she saw her brother walking down
the hallway, but it was again a transparent version of him,
but he was in full color, wearing the same pajamas
he was wearing to bed that night, but he was
completely see through and he just walked into a mirror
and disappeared.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Wow, a mirror. Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah. She did say that there was a Ouiji board
in the house and they did used to fuck around
with it when they were kids, but she doesn't necessarily
know if that has anything to do with it or not.
But there were a lot of she said, while she
was living there, she had a lot of different paranormal experiences.
(17:42):
And I know when you were growing up in your house,
you also had a lot of paranormal experiences and witnessed
the Easter Bunny. So yeah, that's you know that. That's
my second theory. Maybe these are entities that are aware
(18:02):
of our thoughts, or are aware of our fantasies or
our fears, and they're able to kind of latch onto
that and form themselves accordingly.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Right or even even somehow gather information to appear as
less offensive as possible too.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, or a way to try to gain the trust
of a child so that later they can draw the
energy from it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right to a child telling your parents you saw the
Easter body or Santa Claus is as good as adults
saying they were adopted by aliens.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
But also it's if a kid says that to you're like, oh,
that's that's cute. They're right, they're looking forward to the holiday,
you know, they're getting excited. And meanwhile the kids like
that shit is really fucking happening, and the adults just like,
they're so there's they've got such a good imagination.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yep, it's just instantly played off or credited to something else. Yeah, yeah,
very interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, I don't know really, uh what else to make
of it. It's I mean, sure, you can just go
the the standard round and say these are just kids
and they're remembering things wrong, like me remembering the pterodactyl
that was actually a crane. But what if they're not.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, absolutely, that's how I that's how I take me
seeing the Easter bunny. I did, I did see it.
I can redraw it I fucking remade it in VR
for people to go look at if you want to.
But I know it wasn't the Easter bunny.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Dun dun da da duh.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So you know, if your kids are telling you they're
seeing Santa tonight or tomorrow or whenever you're listening to this,
maybe maybe they're not full of shit. Yeah. Here's the
one thing that none of these stories say about Santa,
and that's that Santa actually left them anything that their
(20:03):
parents hadn't bought them. Like, there's no stories of my
parents are like, I have no idea where this, where
this whatever came from. I didn't buy that. And you know,
there there's nothing like that. Santa isn't leaving magic. He's
just like rolling up being like, yo, where where the
cookies at?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He noticed that parents were buying all this shit in
the forties. Yeah, fuck this, I'm getting fit all night.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah. And you know, if parents woke up and the
next day and the cookies weren't there, they would probably
just assume that their kids took the cookies and wouldn't
say anything about it to keep the magic of Christmas alive. Meanwhile,
the kids like, oh my god, Santa ate my cookies
and their parents are like, oh, little Timmy, we know
(20:51):
you took those cookies. And meanwhile he's like, I didn't
take any cookies. Santa took those, and no one ever
knew that it was secretly, really Santa that took those cookies.
The kid grows up and he's like, oh, remember every
year you would take the cookies away, so that so
that I would think Santa took and their parents like, no, actually,
you were the one that took the cookies away, and
the kids like, I don't. I don't have any memory
(21:13):
of that, and then it just, you know, one of
those things, It just gets chucked up to kids being kids. Yeah,
but in reality, it was Tulpa.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Claus Topa Claus roaming free.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, roaming free. He's walking down your hallways, ringing the bells,
getting muddy footprints all over your carpet, leaving deer shit
in the yard. Tulpa Santa is an asshole.
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