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November 29, 2024 • 59 mins
Hey Everyone! Think we would leave you in a turky coma all alone. Pffft. Join us as we go over the Sudbrink Calls. A series of call made to a man named Geary Sudbrink. A man. an excitable man. And his dad. An excitable dad. And mom. And uncle......

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's up everybody? Thanks for listening to the What Cast. Mike,
I have some questions for you before we talk about
the case we're going to cover tonight. When you were
a kid, did you do much prank calling?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Am I under investigation for something?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Why?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Why? Why this sudden question?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
No, I'm sure the statutes of limitations of phone harassment
have have long passed.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Likely, Yeah, I uh, yeah, I did a fair number.
I remember in high school. Well, actually, my prank calling
days go way back. We in middle school, A group
of friends and I would go to these things that
a lot of kids, a lot of you kids out
there probably don't know what it is, but we used
to go to these things called a payphone. Now what

(01:12):
a payphone was. It was a telephone that was wired
into the wall and you had to put a quarter
in to get five minutes, and later on it was
three minutes at a time, and then you'd throw a
diamond for you know, two or three more minutes every
time or whatever. But with payphones, you could call eight

(01:36):
hundred numbers, so we would always call just mostly we
would just hit one eight hundred and then hit just
random numbers, and probably eight times out of ten it
would be a sex number, and you just get some
recording with some woman made, you know, doing a sexy

(01:57):
sounding voice, like hey baby, you reached sexy sex lines.
And then but then it prompts you to call a
nine hundred number. But sometimes we would get like random
business and we would just fuck with them, you know,
put on a fake accent or whatever and just just
fuck around, like no real like intention behind it, just

(02:21):
fucking around. And then in high school we used to
call people I would call do you remember the Jerky Boys?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, So I used to be able to do a.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Pretty good impression of Sal Rosenberg and I would call
people as Sal Rosenberg. So I used to do that.
And then the probably the best prank I ever did
was I had a friend that I sold. This was
when I was in college and I had a friend

(02:54):
that I sold one of my cars too. I had
been in an accident and I got, know, just some
cosmetic repairs done, but I didn't want to deal with
it anymore, so I sold it to my friend. He
bought it from me, and he ended up putting a
bunch of work in it, got everything going again, and
he went he went to school. I think like three

(03:16):
hours away, and he left his car here and his
brother was still in high school. And one time I
was hanging out with some of my friends and there
was this random girl there and she was one of
my friend's friends from college, but she lived in New
York City so she and she had a really thick

(03:38):
New York City accent. So I'm like, and they were
pranking people. I'm like, I know what we can do,
and we came up with this story where she was
going to be portraying the bar manager at some strip
club in New York City, and she asked him if
he had this particular car. It's registered in his name,

(04:03):
and it's been parked outside of their club for two
days now and it's gotten a bunch of tickets and
they're gonna tow it, and they were able to get
the registration information, so they're calling him and he's like, oh, man,
I've been I'm away at school. I don't I left
my car home, so it's not even I don't know
who would have it. They we went on and on

(04:26):
and it was fucking hilarious, and he was getting so
pissed thinking his brother stole his car and drove to
New York City and just abandoned his car next to
some strip club.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we we didn't let it go
on to the point where he was going to like
lose his shit or anything like. Once he started like
really freaking out, we told him it was a prank.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
But oh yeah, but it just helped.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Like it was like just the perfect alignment of things
because I knew he had the car registered, but he
wasn't home to be using it. This girl was there
who had a who had a and oh and the
other thing was he used to always prank prank call
my friends who was friends with this girl. So we
just kind of turned it around.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
That's so funny, dude.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, yep, but yeah, I so I did a fair number.
How about you. Did you get into those shenanigans.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, but we never went the payphone route. I mean,
this is I think this was when I was in
middle school, so it was before like stars sixty nine
or blocking numbers or caller IDs. So we would just
call people from home, just random numbers. It's funny, you're
pranking your friends with their cars. Were it was never
anything but like farting into the phone or you know,

(05:40):
making dumb noises. I wish we would have thought of
some cool pranks to do.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I knew people that would do like some mean spirited pranks,
like like call a somebody's home and pretend to be
like their lover, not knowing if they were married or
had kids, and just leave like this longage on there.
Oh my voicemail.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, I'm like, oh fuck, you could be starting some
real shit.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Oh yeah, we would just we would do this thing
where we can make a fart noise while we talked,
So we would just call someone and try to be
as natural as possible and then throwing like yeah so
uh just in the middle of it, and they would
just see how long they could take it.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, but we're gonna we're gonna talk about a creepy
fucking set of phone calls. And it's just I was
gonna ask you, Mike after that. It's like, besides pranking
your friends and just calling random people, I don't think
and maybe like prank calls are lost on the you know,
newer generations ever since cell phones came out, because you
can't really just hide what you're you know, who you're where,

(06:47):
you're calling from anymore?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Right?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
But uh, I never were any of them mean spirited.
It was always a fun and funny thing to do.
Most of the time people would just be like, oh
God and hang up on us. Very rarely somebody will
get pissed. So when you come across phone calls like
the one we're going to cover tonight, like, doesn't it
have like an extra creepy feel, Like, what's what's the

(07:09):
purpose of being malicious when it comes to calling people?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, I wouldn't even classify these as as malicious calls,
Like I think it's I honestly do feel like it's
a prank call and that they and we'll get into
this as we get into the case, but I think
that they planted ideas in the prankster's head and that's
what led to the weirdness of these calls.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Ooh, okay, okay, Yeah, there's there's plenty of cases with
creepy phone calls when it comes to serial killers, and
and I don't know, looking into it a little bit
before we record it, it's always just a bunch of
unknown stories that came from Reddit. So it's just you know,
Sally got this phone call and it and it being
traced through addict like that's a new fucking story, like

(07:56):
when we heard that shit. But there's there are some
pretty creepy phone calls and recordings of phone calls, and
this one's just strange.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah it is. And so for anyone who might be
actually interested in the case that we're covering, we're talking
about the Gary Sudbrink phone calls. The story behind them
coming out is weird because a lot of people want
to say that this was like a hoax that was

(08:25):
fabricated by Gary and his family, and I don't think
that's the case, because, for one, it was like ten
years after the fact after these calls happened that they
were even released. The calls were recorded in February of
nineteen ninety three, and it wasn't until Gary Sudbrink was

(08:47):
at a UFO conference where he heard some here a
presenter talking about men in black and men in black
phone calls that he presented this case and actually had
the call recordings digitized and put on a CD that
he gave to the investigator, and then from there the

(09:08):
story got out. But I do want to start this
whole thing by saying he never wrote a book. He's
not out there like on the podcast circuit doing interviews
talking about it. He's not trying to gain any sort
of publicity or fame out of this. He's not making

(09:29):
money off of it. In fact, he's even I guess.
He's had a few interviews and he has referenced poltergeist
sort of activity that he had, but didn't really get
into it, didn't expand upon it, and hasn't been like
periodically releasing stuff like my ongoing adventures in the paranormal

(09:50):
or you know, stuff like that. Like, he seems just
like a normal guy. And we always talk about the
reliable witness and who they realize, and for some reason,
politicians and police officers and members of the military always
seemed to get like or have more authority to their story,

(10:13):
I guess, more credibility. And so I with that in mind,
I do want to say that Gary Sudbrink also has
a military background.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Okay, I did not know that he was.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
He was actually a captain in the Air Force.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, So the whole story starts with him. So he
stationed in uh San Antonio, Texas, and he decides to
just take a trip home just kind of on a whim.
His home is in in Long Island, New York, so

(10:51):
he just decides to come home. He doesn't tell any
of his friends or family that are home. He just
goes to the airport and goes to get on the
plane and go home. So this was the first weekend
in February of nineteen ninety three, and at this point
in time, Gary was twenty seven years old. So when

(11:13):
he makes this random and it is a very important
detail on the story because of what's going to come
later that he did not tell anybody that he was
coming home. This was just a spur of the moment thing.
He's like, I'm going home this week, and that's that's
what I'm doing. So he gets to the airport in

(11:34):
Texas and he's getting ready to board his flight when
he gets approached by this guy with a clipboard who
asks him details about himself, like his name, how to
spell his name, asks him where he's going, and just
like random personal information. So Gary actually answers all the

(11:55):
questions not thinking this is really anything weird. He just
assumed that it was probably someone taking a census or
something in the airport, like you know, trying to just
document the comings and goings that maybe it's part of
some survey. He didn't really think anything of it, answered
the questions and then continued preparing to board the plane.

(12:17):
So he gets on the plane, takes a seat, and
this other person boards the plane, comes right next to him,
and sits down in the seat next to him. This
guy is also holding a clipboard and he starts asking
Gary questions similar to what this guy just asked him.

(12:40):
So this is kind of weird because you know, people
that are taking a census or anything like that, like
they're not going to follow you on on board a plane,
and especially considering you just answered these questions. He was
kind of he thought it was weird and he was
kind of annoyed, so he asked the guy to leave
him alone, but the guy kept trying to talk to

(13:01):
him until his stewardess came up and told him that
he was sitting in the wrong seat. So this guy
then gets up and sits directly behind Gary and starts
trying to get him to answer questions again. And so
the flight attendant comes back and she asks him again
to that's not a seat. He need to go to

(13:23):
your seat. So at that point, the guy gets up
and walks away, and Gary said later on that he
he didn't see this man on the flight again, and
when they were disembarking the plane, he was looking for
this guy and he never saw this guy leaving the
plane with the rest of the passengers. So after he

(13:44):
left that seat, Gary doesn't know what happened to him.
But he wasn't there when they landed in Long Island
at least he didn't see him.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Okay, So Gary gets home and there's two different stories
on what happened. And after Gary gets home. In one story,
Gary goes with his father to go talk to a
guy about a UFO sighting that his father had. They
were going to talk to some UFO investigator and his

(14:14):
father had a UFO encounter in West Virginia. They were
going to hit his father and his uncle Tom went
to investigate this big satellite dish in West Virginia, and
it's it's actually kind of this will this will kind

(14:36):
of come into the story later on with the observatory
and the satellite dish and everything. But they while they
were there, like this this place had been known to
be a hotbed of UFO sightings. Apparently a UFO attacked
the satellite dish in the sixties or seventies, something like that.

(14:58):
But Gary's dad and uncle went to this place to
investigate a couple weeks before and had come back, which
gets referenced in these calls. But so one story says
that Gary got home, surprised his parents, and then his
dad's like, hey, why don't you come with me and
we'll go talk to this investigator. The other story is

(15:19):
that Gary got home and then called his friend Mike.
Now the story where he went with his dad, this
happened first and then he talked to Mike. The other
one was that he came home and then once he
got home, called Mike and there was no investigation. I
don't know why there's a discrepancy. It seems like it
would be pretty easy to figure out. But for whatever reason,

(15:43):
there's this discrepancy. I just want to throw.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
It out there.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
But anyway, he ends up calling his friend Mike. Regardless
of which story, he ends up calling his friend Mike,
and he was trying to make plans because he unexpectedly
came back into town seen Mike in a while. So
he calls Mike and he's like, Hey, let's let's get together.
While I'm here, and while he was trying to make

(16:09):
plans with him, Mike told Gary that they actually talked
to each other the day before, and Gary's like, no,
we definitely didn't. I flew in, I flew home, and uh,
I'm calling you today. I was I was flying yesterday.
And Mike said, no, you You called me yesterday and

(16:31):
you sounded a little you sounded like it sounded like you,
but a little bit off and told me that you
just flew in from or flew into LaGuardia Airport and
that you were feeling a little under the weather. The
truth of the situation is that Gary the previous day

(16:51):
had flown into New York through JFK and was feeling
completely fine. There was no illness, nothing going on. He
just thought it was kind of a weird mix up there,
didn't really know what to make of it. So they're
kind of discussing this and how weird it is, and

(17:13):
you know, Gary's not sure if his friend's fucking with
him or what the deal is. But while he's talking
to his friend, call Waiting comes in. Remember call Waiting.
Oh yeah, I mean, I know it's a thing on
cell phones now, but when we were kids. It was
just you just hear the beep and you're like, oh shit,
I got another column. It was novel at the time,

(17:35):
in the nineties. It was relatively new still. But he
gets another call at ten thirty pm, and so he
switches over to this other call, and what he hears
is very strange. It's strange enough to the point where

(17:55):
he actually hits record on his answering machine. Now, I
know I'm using a lot of old man terms in this,
but for all the kids out there, and answering machine
was a little tape recorder that was connected to your
phone that would record your voicemails. So it wasn't a
digital storage thing like it was literally on a cassette tape.

(18:19):
And now I know what you're saying, what's a tape
like like something you stick like duct tape? No, No,
tapes were these little plastic things that had magnetic ribbon
in them that would play sound when pushed up against
something inside of a tape player, and you could also
record on it, and they were magical things that you know, like, actually,

(18:40):
I know there's there's a lot of kids that are
that are hipster nerds out there, so you probably know
what a VHS is? VHS is a tape? Right anyway, I'll.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I'm so fucking old.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I think it's a I think it's required these days.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, I just want to Like I could hear people like,
what's an answering machine? What's a tape? What's a payphone?
What even are you talking about? How many arms does
the answering machine have? Yeah? What does it say? Whatever
you want it to? But this was so weird, This

(19:23):
whole conversation was so weird that he hit record. So
there's there's there is recording out there. So let's let's
play the first call. So the first call starts off
like I don't want to say halfway through, but it
starts off already in progress.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
We'll say, I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Who it is.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Yeah, do you want to speak to him?

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Who said Stephen?

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Are you playing games with the what? Huh Stevens? If
you're playing game, we're gonna kick your ass?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Can come up your big bag from the huh you
being a person? The other voice?

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yeah, Steve, idiot, you're pissed me off. It's jerk. I'm
gonna get you once. Let's see what it says. Review
one new call out of area. Stephen out of the area,
can come up your big bag from the Texas?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Quite said again being a person by the other voice.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Wait, hold on, its Stephen out of the calling area.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
What do you don't know?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
He's in Queens.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I don't know what it's. Oh, hello, here's Carris, So break.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Compare h who is it?

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Okay, come up to be back from the Texas? How
is that against that you being a person by the
other voice.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
He'll be couie.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Sorry, will just see that again? Hello and being impersonated
by wide voice? Yeah, hello cars, so break yeah, hold
on a second, let's seek Yeah, what is your question?

(21:46):
I'll answer it.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Street?

Speaker 5 (21:51):
So how long we can go up to be back
from the texts? How long you're being a person by
the other right? When am I coming back? Is that
your question? Okay?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
There was a break?

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
You want to know when I'm coming back to Texas?

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Oh? Is that your question?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
So?

Speaker 4 (22:20):
How long go on to back?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
How long am I going to be back in Texas?
That question?

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Doesn't it make any sense? Okay, I'll be coming back eventually.
I can't tell you when you should know that question
to answer to the questions because you seem to know
more about me than I do. You know what I'm saying,
Are you anti galactic person? Are you a space alien?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Sounds like you high up? I can't believe this.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
He comes back.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
So, now that we've listened to the first one, I
want to provide a little bit of context to some
of the things that happen there. So there's there's four
voices on that call. There's Gary, there's the weird voice,
There's Gary's mom, and then Gary's dad. So the voices
in the background are Gary's parents reacting, and then at

(23:31):
one point his mom gets on the phone, and then
at the end of the call, the voice that says
are you an intergalactic person? That's that's his dad, And
that's where I'm saying. I feel like they provided the
ammunition for this prankster, because immediately they jump to are
you an intergalactic person?

Speaker 3 (23:52):
You know?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
So of course any prankster worth his sult is going
to go and be like, oh, you bet yours, I'm
an intergalactic person.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Just do you wait.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
The other thing that I want to provide context on
is this Steven person that they keep referencing. Steven is
Gary's brother and the reason he thinks. So Stephen himself
is not known for pranking, but there's a reason why
he thinks that this might be Steven. About a year prior,

(24:25):
Gary and his brother Stephen were invited to a wedding.
Gary was living in Texas at the time as well,
and Steven was driving to the wedding and on his
way to the wedding, he saw Gary's car driving on
the highway and it pulled up alongside of him. The
driver looked at him and made some funny faces at

(24:47):
him and then sped off. So his brother's like a
fucking weirdo. So he gets to the He gets to
the wedding, finds out that Gary is already at the
wedding and didn't drive in. He actually flew in from Texas.
His car is still in Texas, and uh.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
You know that that was that.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
So he's like, well, that's weird. The guy had your car,
looked just like you and made some fucking weird faces
at me and then drove off. Yeah, so that's that's
why he was saying, is that you, Steven. If it's you,
I'm going to be really pissed off, all right.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
So they already had a somewhat strange experience.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Right, Yeah, so based just on that call alone, what
what do you what do you get from that call?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, so this might be from like I'm messing around
with music recordings and editing the show for a long time.
I think that the person who's calling it's obviously a
slowed down voice. There's only three phrases, and they're stopping
to rewind, uh, to get to the appropriate response to
continue the conversation. I think it's hello, It's in is

(26:00):
what's his name? Sorry? Stanley's sudbring Gary Gary?

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Gary?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Is Gary Sudbrink there, Yeah, and then you're being impersonated
by the other voices. The only three things that.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
That that no, and also how long are you going
to be back from Texas?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Right?

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
That that phrases well and to me, to me, it's
when I I've heard this these calls a long time ago,
and the first thing I noticed then, as I do now,
is that it's amazing how wild up these people get
off of four phrases.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, and especially I love when when when Gary says,
you tell me you seem to know more about me
than I do, Like he didn't say anything about you.
Other than how long are you going to be back
from Texas?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
It seems like he seemed to be a little bit
of a reactive person. And then the way his mom
and dad reacted, I was like, Okay, that's just the
type of people these these folks are. They were just
they were easy to rattle.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, yeah exactly. So like the fact that they're willing
to engage, and then they throw out the are you
an intergalactic person? And are you a space alien? Like
that's everything that they need, right right, And it's it's
obvious that it's not a person talking because every time
he asks is Gary Sudbrink there, it's is Gary sud

(27:19):
Brink there? Done in the exact same way every time.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, it is only those it's a repeat of the
same four phrases over.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, yeah exactly. So that phone call happened, and then
about a half hour later, at eleven pm, the caller
called back again. So this time when they when the
caller called back, instantly, Gary hit the record button on
the answering machine. So here is the second call, and

(27:50):
then we'll give our thoughts.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
On that one. What's your question? Yes speaking, yes, okay,
answer any questions for you?

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Are you back from?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Not back yet? No?

Speaker 6 (28:25):
How long?

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Let me answer first, you tell me where are you
calling from?

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Gary?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
So? Yeah, why don't you tell me where you're calling from?
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Who is this?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
You should know who it is. It's me Gary, m
h uh yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Wait, let me let me answer this question. Where are
you calling from? Okay, I'll be back. Excuse me, I can't.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Hear too well.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah it's a full moon. Ad that's true. H Could
you identify yourself? Identify yourself? Why are you calling me?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Excuse me?

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh, I cannot hear too well. Hold on, let me
twitch phones. Okay, okay, okay, hold on.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Now who are you keep an eye in the sky?
He said? Okay, hold on? You say that? Repeat that again?

(30:30):
Please repeat?

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Okay, near orion, tonight.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
The full moon? Repeat? Okay, repeat last word? They were static?

(31:17):
How am I like to? Hey?

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Hung up?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Hello?

Speaker 4 (31:26):
There was.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
In like the the eighties and early nineties, there were
personal recording devices that took those miniature tapes and you
could just you know, it's like made for you. You
might see have seen it in like older movies, like
someone will pull a recorder out and be like you know,
like anyone who's seen Twin Peaks. Yeah, Agent Cooper is

(31:51):
always talking to do his thing.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Dictation device is what they used to call it.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
But also just a couple of months before this these
calls happened, Home Alone two came out and one of
the things in there was was Kevin McAllister used the
talk boy and one of the things he actually did
was slowed down the playback on the talk boy at
one point. And that was part of the commercial too.
The the commercial, I remember it was like a older

(32:21):
sister and her boyfriend sitting on the couch and they're
supposed to be babysitting the brothers, and they're like, oh,
let's and they high kids were home, and then they
they you know, slowed down so high kids were home. Yeah,
so it's you know, a similar sort of thing. So
it's a possibility. But I mean, even even a regular

(32:43):
tape recorder, you most of them, you'd be able to
do like half speed playback. And and you know, I'm
sure if we took this audio and played it back
at at like one point five or or two two
times the speed that we'd have a regular voice.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Right, And on most of those, even those small dictation
machines if there's a tape there even I mean goddamn
near all of them. If you just put your thumb
on the wheels that are turning the cassette tape, it'll
slow it down enough to where you can get that effect. Yeah,
it's very easy to do.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, but now he is taking you know, he took
the bait from the first call with the AREU an
intergalactic person and starts talking about keeping an eye on
the sky and nero Ryan and look at the full
moon stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Right, That's the first thing I noticed is whoever is
making the print call has gone with the like you said,
they gave him ammo for what they talk about next,
and that's exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
What they're And then like how excited his dad gets
with the Holy mackerel and tell him I want to
talk to him.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, there's no way you can convince me that this
whole family doesn't sit around and listen to art bell together.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, right right, And I mean just with like all
the silences that are there too, like most people would
have hung up, you know what, you know what it
And I think it might be the third one, or
it might be the final call. I don't know, but
but after listening to this, it reminded me of did
you ever listen to the Adams Sandler album They're all

(34:19):
going to laugh at you?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
All right?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
So do you remember the one where I can't remember
what the what the title of it is, but but
someone calls I think a high school principal maybe, and like,
you know, it's like a prank call, but it like
vaguely threatening, and then they hung up, and he's just
after they hang up, you just hear him going, hello, Hello,
just tell me your name, and then the the busy

(34:48):
signal starts going, who's that hello. That's that's what it
reminded me of, because because I mean, these they just
keep talking and there's complete silence, and they're just keep
talking and keep talking and keep talking. And you know,
clearly the guy called and then recorded some stuff and

(35:09):
then he's like, ah, I got new stuff to call
back on. And and I do think that there's multiple
devices being used here, because some of the later calls
go back to the is Gary Sudbrink there?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Oh? Really?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Then yeah, and then they make I can't remember exactly
what he says, but the way he says texts. I
think he says, are you back from Texas? Mm hmm,
and that gets repeated in a later call as well.
I think that in the next call he does the
Texas right.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I have to say that if I was doing these
prank calls, the reaction that they're getting from Gary and
his family is exactly what I'd want to get either.
They really really want to talk to whoever's doing it.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, and the person just keeps repeating the same shit,
and they're just like a fish on a hook. They're like, yes, yes,
right right talking. They almost want you can almost feel they.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Want to coach them, like speak louder, speak clearer, please,
we want to hear your mess right yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
So with that call came in at so ten thirty eleven,
and then the final call of the night came in
at eleven thirty eight pm. So this, this next one
is going to be the final call that they received
on February eighth.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Okay, yeah, it's taken time from the talk. Who is
this Stephen? This is not funny, you know, Brian, It's
not Stephen. What do you mean, Brian? I mean, how
do I know it's not Steven? It's not Stephen.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
Hello, I had a UFO experience in West Virginia, which
you'd probably know. And I know that you're into a
uh an antechonolactic person. Can you speak a little louder, sir?
Can you speak a little louder louder?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Let me speak to him that. I guess I don't
know what alright, I don't hang out so you can
talk to him. He wants to talk to you. Mkay, Hello,
can I help you? Oh?

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yes, yes, that's me. Yes, could you please identify yourself?

(37:49):
Identify so, yeah, I'm back. I'm in Texas right now. Yah.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Oh, he aksed me a good question. Now I'm in
New York right now. You know that. Why are you
asking me such a question? Kid?

Speaker 4 (38:04):
See when you're gonna pull back.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
A few times in the world, what do you.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Er? Yes, Stephen, if this is you, I'm I swear
to God, I'm gonna be pissed. Huh, that's Steve. I'm
trying to listen to him. Who excuse me?

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Lay Steve? Kid that house? Okay, I eventually I'll be
back from Texas. Could you speak more? Please speak more?

(38:48):
I guess it's not Stephen. I believe it because I'm
getting static, not least three times. Well, let me go
on this phone, cause I can never hear on his phone.
Hold on, okay, okay, please speak hello the story.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Okay. Should I go out right now? Right now? Before? Okay, see,
I'm not sure where Ryan is now, but we'll go outside.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Sure it.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
We show double from me? Cheat that again. Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
So these, to me, these are getting more and more
comical because it starts to become more of like the
inner actions between Gary and his dad and I love
I love his dad just getting it like he's so
excited he can't wait to get on there to tell
him I had a UFO experience and you know all
about it. I know it because you're an intercollected person.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I know.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, he just he was in full believe. I mean,
this person hasn't said shit yet, especially on this one.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, this one, all the all the audio is barely audible,
and they're just like again, it's like we've been told
me your name and I love Please talk to me,
please talk.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Uh that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
So that was the last call of the night, and
uh then everybody, you know, they they're probably probably stayed
up for like another hour or two, just waiting around
the phone because he gonna call back, right, go back,
That's what.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
It seems like. They're all waiting around. I'm sure they're
recording this on the tape recorder themselves, like just gathered
around and if if they had a video camera, I'm
sure they'd have.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
It.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Just seems like they're into this type of stuff. I
mean it did it seem like a like a CIA
operatives wet dream. I mean, just fucking say three days
people are gonna freak out tell you where they are everything.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, Well, his dad, his dad and his uncle Tom
are both in like some local UFO investigating group club.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
So they they do have a history.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
And like I said, they they went out to West
Virginia to investigate this site and apparently had UFO sighting
while they were there. Okay, So when when he talks
about when his dad said, I had an encounter but
I'm sure you already know that that's what he's referring to, Okay,

(41:53):
and then when when his dad said Brian and then
Gary goes Brian. Uh, just to provide a little context
to that, Brian is Gary's other brother.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Could have bet money.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
You know, anyone who's got more than a single kid
has messed up their names countless times.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I always loved, like, ever since my kids were little,
if I messed up one of their names, they would
look so offended, and I would just go, what's your face?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, I know you got a name, just whatever it is,
Go do that.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, you little one, tell the big one to do this.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, yeah it have And then if you have pets too,
you'll start crossing names there too, and it just becomes
a big mess. That's probably why I never call anybody
by their real names. I just make up names for
people and I'm like, that's your name now.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I think that's why I do that too. I used
to watch my dad sit there and like go through
all of us kids, like while looking me dead in
the face, like you start saying my sister's names. I'm like, nope, nope, nope.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah, I mean I'm a I've got four brothers, so
you know, we had five kids in the house, and
that would have with my mom all the time. Just
just go down the line. Eventually you'll hit one of us.
You'll know, you'll know, like yes, third try, got it?

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Perfect?

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah. I like his dad.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
He's very adorable in his eagerness and excitement.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Wait, wait till Uncle Tom gets on the line. Uncle
Uncle Tom, so, oh my next night, Yeah, I got
the next day. The next day, February ninth, everyone is
still talking about these calls from the from the previous night,
like holy shit. So Uncle Tom rolls up and he's
hanging out at the house, and then at ten thirty,

(43:40):
just like the night before, they get the fourth call.
And this was the final call, and Uncle Tom does
make an appearance. Yeah, you'll, you'll, you'll. He's got a
very distinct voice, and and I don't know about you,
but as soon as I heard his voice in my head,
I had this guy down.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I knew exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I've never seen a picture of him, but I know
this guy.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
All right, I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Here we go. Yes, this is me? Can I speak
clay ks? Why you yes? Can I X? Why you're calling?

(44:28):
Can I please? Ever?

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
This is.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (44:37):
That is me said that again. There's a leave pretty calm.

(45:04):
I'm staying right here.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
To be good.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Uh, there's a plot of is this a joke or
was it? Do that? Good?

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Many?

Speaker 3 (45:21):
To be contact.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
That's the same writ do you.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
I have to think about that.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
I'd like to see you.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Good.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Many to be contact. That's the same grit, do you.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Hey, let me tell you something. I've been listening to
you and I've had contacts with you. Interherence of'em? Interference
you have? And please explain what type of interference.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
Anywhere?

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Okay, interherence.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
There's a tissues to be disrupted like that your parents,
something will rise or dark side of.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Well, now.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
If someone rise on the dark side of the moment? Okay,
what branch of the government?

Speaker 4 (47:12):
Uh what?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Uh? What should I do? The rare.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Govern interference presentations to be disrupted? Doing them?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Okay? Is that good for me or bad? They hung up?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yes, so Uncle Tom.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah he was uh, just like his dad.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
He can't wait to get and get it out there.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah exactly. I mean, these people are nuts. I love them.
I think they're fantastic. This needs to be a sitcom
where somebody from out of space calls this family every week.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
But I mean, and they can't the best part, like
I think my favorite part and it only happened in
the second and third call, but where he's on the phone,
he's like, hold on, hold on, I gotta switch lines,
and you hear him clicking over. And the funny thing is,
I that's something I distinctly remember from growing up, like

(48:32):
being like, oh wait, wait my cordless phone, let me
get on the let me get on the wired phone.
And then you pick up the phone and hang up
the cordless phone and be like, hello, oh yeah, you're
much clearer.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, but uncle, just as eager saying that we've had
I've had communications with you, and these people were all
in on just a few words. It's like you said that,
we're seeing a mixture of all three recordings now actually
separate recordings. They're using all different and even new phrases.

(49:06):
They're still running with this.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
And this is way heavy on the alien implication in
this one right right, the government interference, Like yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I don't see how whoever was doing this ever stopped
doing this to them.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I know, why would you ever stop doing that? Like
you're getting that reaction, Like every week, I'd be giving
new updates, like you know, they they would become Paul
Benowitz for.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Me, absolutely, and I'd make them do like adopt all
the kittens you can, Like I would just make them
do nice things, and yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
That's the way to save the world as adopting kittens.
You must adopt the kittens.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
One of the kittens are a refugee leader in the
form of a kitten.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
And please make sure to spay and neuter your kittens.
It's the only way to save our species. Don't ask how.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't imagine being the person doing
these prank calls and getting the reaction. It just couldn't
be better. I mean, they are dedicated there in one
hundred and ten percent. I loved how in this last call. Uh,
it was just nobody reacted to or understood or even
heard a fucking word this person was saying. Everything they

(50:17):
responded to had nothing to do with what they said,
or it was a what huh huh what they.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Just they they did They were asking which branch of
the government though, so they were responding to.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
That, right, Well, that's that was their question to them.
But anytime this call said something, it was what or
they would respond with something that didn't have anything to
do with it, But I did They're just a I
wonder if they were playing along with whoever was doing
this call, like trying to give them a show back,
but you can tell it's just too authentic. Mom's there

(50:51):
and everything. It's it's great.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
It just it really is so funny, like just a
few words are able to get so much involvement from
you know.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah, three words on the first call had a whole
family fucking gathered around the phone.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
And the fact that so this happened in ninety three
and here we are thirty years later, still talking about it.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, and what.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Essentially amounts to maybe ten phrases total, exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
And today if we got a call like that, it
would be like is boar Ball there? We would just
hang up, We would just hang out.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Well, or we would just ignore the call completely. Yeah,
we would have never Oh I don't recognize this phone number.
I am not answering, right, Just a much simpler time.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
And I remember, not, like I said, not mean spirited stuff,
but just trying to get them to stay on the
line as long as we could, and just so many
different personalities and people who would laugh and play along
and wouldn't care. These people who would go into a rage,
but the ones who would just buy it were the
funniest ones. And these people are perfect.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, Yeah, it's great. I enjoy it. I like the
I just it's to me. I want to know who
did it, and that's, you know, not not that I
think that it was a government, Like it was clearly
somebody fucking with him, and I want to know why
they didn't continue and the fact that they like the

(52:20):
weird things like the the tie to the people with
the clipboards for one, why are they questioning him? You know,
why was that a thing? And then the doppelganger sighting.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
No, right now with the doubleganger sighting, this is all
being told to us by Gary, right, yeah, okay, after
hearing how his like, you know, I'm not I'm not
making fun of them, but the very eager and gible
personalities of him, I mean, we get to see generational
goibility happening in real time. I don't believe those other

(52:54):
things happened at all.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Well, so what do you think Steven was just fucking
with him?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
No, I think Gary's just saying that those things happened.
So his story about the call sounds stranger.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Oh you think Gary's making stuff up that?

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
I think I think that's the thing, Like, why would
he make stuff up to go around this call? If
he wasn't planning on exploiting the story.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Right, I think that, uh. I think that that's the
type of exploitation that he wanted. I think that he
hoped that landed on something like art Bell and it
was just played on there. He didn't want to have interviews.
Who knows if his name is but there.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Also, why would he wait all that time to put
it out?

Speaker 1 (53:35):
That's true too, I don't know. Yeah, that's very true.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
I did.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
They just seemed too into it man. To me, it
just seems like they would have shopped it everywhere and
tried to get on every show, but they just didn't.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean he gave it to someone who
was talking about men in black calls. I'm assuming that
he was under the impression this was that he was
being contacted by a man in black maybe, but I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I don't think that that it's a legitimate paranormal or
alien contact case. Like I I'm convinced that this was
either a prank or a hoax. I'm leaning more towards
the prank than a hoax. Yeah, but who would have

(54:24):
done it? And maybe it was Mike. Maybe Mike was
just fucking with him because of like, you know, if
they were friends, presumably Gary would have told Mike about
this weird occurrence. So maybe when he called Mike Mike,
just like on a he had this plan in his head,
like if he calls me and he's home, I'm gonna
come up with this whole thing, and maybe Mike's behind it,

(54:47):
and he just never told him because Gary got like
super freaked out by it. So he's like, you know what,
I'm just we're just gonna let that fade away.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Before Gary starts talking about how we're going to be
on GERALDO.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, but I mean to me, that is the most
likely scenarios that Mike is fucking with Gary.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Right, I I definitely think it's somebody just brank calling
them and and they just happen to bleed the right
information to get a couple more calls out of him.
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
If it's Yeah, he was probably fucking with him for
it because he kept saying the other voices impersonating you
like I, And I don't know why he wouldn't go
directly to Mike. Maybe because he was on the line
with Mike previously.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I don't know. Hmmm, good point. Nonetheless, of fascinating calls there,
they are a little creepy if you take out the
goofiness of of that that family. But uh that maybe
that's told be our our new term for a completely
global person. And we'll say, don't be a sudbrink.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, that's that's a good one. I like that, don't
don't be a Sudbrink. I I just I want, like,
I want to follow up call like all the time
later and he just is Gary, soid brink there and
then it's like that this is is your refrigerator rule?

Speaker 1 (56:11):
They ask if Gary is there and he goes, yes,
yes I am finally Yeah, you're a gullible dupe. Yeah,
I just I wouldn't have been able to stop myself.
I would have taken it easy, like once a month,
but I would have kept that going until I died.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Oh absolutely, yeah, I I to this day I would
be calling that person.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I would have just given up, try to be I
would just start six to seven and then they that
way they'll never track me down.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I would just give up, try to be scoop like
spooking weird. I'd just be like, how are you Gary?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Did you start talking like Bain?

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Did you have a good Christmas? How'd your mom?

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Gary?

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Gary, tell me about your mom? Did your dad recover
from his back storgery?

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Well?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Gary, how are your bowel movement?

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