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Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's up everybody, Thanks for listening to the what cast? Mike.
How much snow are you under right now? Not very much.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Most of it melted today because it rained.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Oh god, snow and then rain.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah yeah, this time of here, it's usually how it goes.
We'll get we'll get a few inches of snow, and
then a few days later it'll rain and all the
snow goes away. And actually, this next week I'm looking
like I'll be in the mid to high forties, so
a little bit of a heat wave going into the
winter season.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, you'll have your sprinklers on running around in the
front yard.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, yeah, get out, get out the Hawaiian shirt and
swim trunks. It's gonna be nice.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well, fucking Thanksgiving came and went. What's your thoughts on Christmas? Mike?
Do you like the Christmas season?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
No? I fucking hate it. I hate Christmas music, I
hate Christmas decorations. I hate the fact that I always
blow my back out every year having to get the
Christmas decorations, not to mention that a Christmas tree is
the reason that I have a bionic leg now, so
it's you know, Christmas. Christmas is just annoying. To me,
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and I go along with it because you know everybody
else likes it.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I think we're on the exact same page with Christmas.
But just to uh, it's just because it's December, really
not because of Christmas. We've got a christmas y type
of a really weird Christmas the type of case here.
It's made its rounds on YouTube and we got a
couple requests for us to cover it, so we're going
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to it is the case of the minced Pie Martians.
Have you heard anything about this, Mike.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I have never heard of such a thing, but I'm
very interested.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, there's a couple YouTube videos out there. I'll put
them in the show notes because they're great videos. But
there's a couple of our homies that sent us links
to a couple other videos, and after reading about it
and watching these videos, I was just blown away. We
love the weird ones, so that's what we're going to do.
This story comes from a lady named Jeane Hingley from
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a bluestone walk in raleg Regi's, England, and she states
that on January fourth, nineteen seventy nine, she was waving
goodbye to her husband as she saw him off to
work with her dog, Bobo. At around six thirty am.
After he drove off, she noticed a light near their garage,
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and she figured that her husband had left a light
on inside the garage and she started to make her
way to it to turn it off. And that's when
as she got closer, she realized that it the light
wasn't coming from her garage, but above her garage. She
said that it was a very bright, orange, glowing orb
and it was hovering above the garage, and it was
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bright enough to light up her entire backyard and produce heat.
This kind of freaked her out, so she made her
way back into her house with her dog and she
watched the glowing orb from her back doorway. The orb
floated towards her house, stopped, and then landed in the
middle of her backyard. She said that the orb changed
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color from orange to white as it landed, and as
it finished landing, it started to emit a buzzing, slash
electric sound, which caused her to run inside the house completely.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, at least she had the sense to escape at
some point.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You know, right, yeah, I already liked her attitude already,
which is fuck this and fuck no I'm getting out
of ear. Okay. So as she ran into her house,
she ran into her kitchen, which is the back door
led directly into her kitchen. She turned around to see
what she described as three four foot tall glowing beings
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float through the back door and into her kitchen.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And is there any more to the description than that,
or just oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
We're it's gonna go okay, all right, all right? She
mentioned that they were glowing so bright that she couldn't
make out any other shape, And she said at this
point she noticed that she had become paralyzed with fear.
And she watched the creatures enter her living room, but
she noticed that her dog Bobo, started acting strange. She
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said that he kind of moved around to his water bowl,
kind of confused and groggy. He laid down next to
it and seemed to freeze in place with his eyes open.
And that's what made it stand out to her and
seem strange, is he didn't go to sleep. His eyes
were wide open. He just kind of put his head down. Now,
she said that she started to notice what she called
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a change in herself and her thinking. Now, a lot
of times there's people who experience stuff like this, like,
correct me if I'm wrong. They when they have these
encounters with supposed aliens, they some of them get this
sense of like overwhelming peace. And that's what she got.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, like almost like lulled into I don't want
to say, a comatose state, maybe like a sedated sort
of state.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Right, And that kind of gave me a question, especially
after covering the Manhattan abduction. Now, I think the manhattanbduction,
if that was real, that was a case of whatever
they used to put us to sleep and forget and
all that stuff, of that type of procedure not working
too well. Do you think that when people are getting
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these overwhelming sensations of peace, of not fear, of not
being afraid, do you think that's whatever procedures that's used
to do that working too well.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
No, I would say it's working just as intended.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Hmmm. Yeah. There's certain drugs that can make you feel
like that, so still could be people.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, well, I mean not only drugs, but but like hypnosis, right, god,
you know, and because we're we're getting we're getting these
reports as like a person's recollection of what was occurring.
So if there was a hypnosis effect that took place.
They would probably not even have any recollection of the
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hypnosis taking place if the person that's hypnotizing them didn't
want them to know.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, so what do you think about them having some
type of alternate form of hypnosis, something instantaneous? What do
you I mean, do you think that's a lot of
these lights that people are describing.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, it's probably the lights and maybe some sort of
tone or frequency. Ooh, maybe an unhearable frequency. That's yeah,
that's but it's still but your body can still feel it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, your ears can pick it up. It's
just not an audible tone for you. That's scary, dude.
You just hear some subwile for break and you just
start clucking like a chicken. That's all it takes. Government
has like hypnosis songs. Oh, let's make a hypnotizing song.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Dude, a hypnotizing song.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Maybe I don't know if that's a very good idea,
and maybe it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Won't work, but it'll be our interpretation of what a
song that can cause somebody be hypnotized would sound like. Okay, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It can be. The message will be send Mike all
the cool books. Yeah, send Mike all the cool books.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh yeah, we'll do some subliminal messaging in there as well.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So she said that she got that sense of peace.
She said that she got a feeling of everything is
going to be okay. She said she felt like a
different person. She said she knew she wasn't dead, but
felt the sensation that many describe as being in heaven
completely at peace. So that that's like again an.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Extremes so when she says like when she says like
in heaven, like a feeling of ecstasy.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Here she she described as being completely at peace, like
no fear of anything, no anxiety of over what was happening,
just completely at ease with everything that was going on
in a deep sense.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I guess I got you okay, all right?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I mean that could be through hypnosis or some sort
of drug or combination of the two, right right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So she made in her way into the leaving room
after these these creatures, but quickly had shield her eyes
from the bright white light that was coming from them.
She said that suddenly she felt like the beings were
peacefully scanning her mind and can tell and understand that
the creatures could now understand her. She kind of felt
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like they understood that their lights were too bright for
her to even see them or see anything, so they
actually dimmed these lights just enough for her to see
what they actually look like. I'm going to use some
quotes from her from this case. She said they were
three little slim men in silvery gray tunics and silver
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waistcoats with six silver buttons going down the front of
the chest. They're about three between three and four feet tall.
They varied in height. Their arms ended in points with
no fingers, and those two were covered in a silver rematerial.
I noticed right away that sounds like uh, drill hands there.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, yeah, so maybe it's a type of species or
something like that. She said.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They also did he also have the cool eighty spiked hair.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
No, they had. That's her next descriptions that they had
silver pointed caps with a light on the top. So
maybe like a.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Like a short dun Sky updated fashion.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, exactly. Maybe they're just the high tech version. Maybe
if they took us off, they'd have the cool little
nubs there you go. Or maybe these ones grew mullets instead.
Oh boo, instant boo, don't have don't have a mullet.
Everyone Rule number one, don't have a mullet. She also
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said that they had a glass dome that covered their
heads that went down to their shoulders, not just to
their necks, and their faces were waxy and pale, like
that of a corpse, and they had no hair or eyebrows,
and another familiar description, she said their eyes were black.
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She called them black diamond eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Black diamond eyes. I wonder if they were like I
wonder if it was like the classic almond shape but
like because that's like vaguely diamond shape, you know, or
I wonder if they were like glistening like diamonds. What
did she mean by it?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Right, it's kind of like with the Hopkinsville Goblins ones
those I've seen drawn with actual like crystal like diamonds
in their eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But I know, yeah, I know, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I know that they in the in the case then
they did just describe him as gleaming like diamonds. Yeah,
so who knows?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, So what does she mean?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Right? Yeah? I wonder if they're like actual black stone
looking crystals, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh yeah, maybe it's like some sort of like construct
or something.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Oh yeah, like their powers that give him energy to function,
but she said, had another classic description, a thin mouth
just like the grays there with no nose or ears,
so again matching other species of aliens that have been reported.
Do you get the sense of a little bit of
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a chmira activity going on? Is this like some type of.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yet, But I feel like a lot of these sort
of things get kind of into that territory, and even
cryptids too, Like just the way that they're described, it
seems like they're kind of like a chimera of sorts.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Right, Or maybe some genetic engineering going on, a mixing
of different types of alien species to make a certain
type of species to do certain things.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Always a possibility, Or maybe they're just weird fucking alien guys.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, they're about to get weirder, she said. They had large,
old shaped, multi colored wings covered in dots, similar to brail.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
What. Yeah, but now they're starting to sound like some
sort of Marvel villain or something.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
She said that they had several silver streamers that hung
from their shoulders down to their waist, and that they
crossed their arms over their chests. Their legs dangled freely.
She said, then they started to run amuck. They floated
over to her Christmas tree, which was up, and they
started to shake the tree and examine everything on it.
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After that, they started flying around the living room and
touching everything, and she said that it seemed like their
hands were almost like magnetized to anything they touched. Their
hands had no fingers, but whatever they touch just stuck
to their little pointing nub there. She said that at
this point she found herself stunned again, and she said
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that her face was stuck in an expression of shock.
But it was stuck like that for a moment, but
she regained her composure again and she wasted no time
in asking the creatures, you know, what did they want
with her? What were they going to do with her?
And after pressing some buttons on their chest, which caused
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loud beeping sounds, they all said, in unison and raspy voices,
we shall cause you no harm. She said that she
could tell.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Nothing's less creepy.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Okay, sure, buddy, yeah, yeah, that doesn't sound appealing at all.
But she said that she could tell that they couldn't
understand certain words she was saying, so they would hit
the buttons she said, one, two, three very quickly, and
they would understand what she would say. She said the
beeps were very, very loud. They were loud enough to
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hurt her ears. But she said to them, which is
a funny way of talking, she said, you can learn
a lot from me with that bleep bleep. And she
said that. They said, they responded with the enthusiasm. Yes, yes,
we can. So they went back to the Christmas tree
suddenly and started to shake it so violently that the
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angel on top of the tree fell off. And she
told them, quote, we put a tree up at Christmas
because we believe Jesus was born then. And they replied,
we know all about Jesus.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Are they implying that he was an alien.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Or that they were around at the time of Jesus.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Or maybe both. Maybe Jesus was one of them and
he was around back then, and they belled and he
was he got left behind, and he's like, ah shit,
he was the star. But also then he possessed the baby.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I better pretend to be the senate guy.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's the only way. He didn't. He didn't know the
way it was gonna end, and if he did, he
would get the fuck out of Dutch.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's why their back. They're pissed off about humans killing
their their homie.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, yeah, they're like, yo, Jesus was our boy and
you guys fucked him up because you're assholes.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, they did a lot of weird stuff during this
little visit. They noticed a newspaper that had a list
of citizens that were being honored, I guess, And she
said the creatures told her that these people have been
made lords, but there is only one lord. It sounds
like she had she had at me, like Christian is it?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Is it Jesus? Alien? Is that the one Lord?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Holy shit, Mike, that just backed up your whole theory.
God damn, why does that always happen?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah? Do you see that? I didn't even know what
was going on with this story, but now I know.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
God damn, Well, this might even back it up further.
She said that they talked to her for a great
length about Jesus and about the Queen of England. She
said that out there talking to them for a while,
she was puzzled at why they were visiting her if
that's the type of stuff that they knew about, And
she told them you should talk to the queen or
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a real lady, and they replied to them, the little
cutie pies told her, you are a real lady.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
She said that, Oh, did they pet her on the
head too, Yeah, gently kissed her hand. She said they
all floated over to her couch and started to jump
all over it like a bunch of little kids, and
that she basically yelled at them to be careful with
her furniture. And she said she had a bark at
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them like that a few times, and each time she did,
the light on their hats would glow and basically blast
a beam of light right onto her forehead that would
paralyze her. And she said that they started to blast
her with this light anytime she fucking asked them anything.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's a little unnerving.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah. She said that she told them not to do
that because it hurt her eyes. She said it hurt
her head as well. It physically hurt her head. And
she said that they continued to do it, but the
light wasn't as intense or painful.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
They're there, so they're considerate at least, they're like, all right, well,
well we'll demn it down just a bit for you.
We want to make your abduction experience as pleasurable as possible.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It kind of reminded me of the doctor or the dentist,
So like, is that is that too hard? Or is
that too fast? Okay, we'll relax, well, we'll tone it
down or something sounds it sounds very procedural, like they
almost had they knew that might happen, so they're just
like without saying all right, we'll turn it down. Yeah. Yeah. Basically,
she said that she stopped asking them anything because this
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light was so painful even with it turned down, that
she didn't want to get hit with it again, and
she felt like she was being punished with this light,
so she decided to make small talk with them, and
she said, quote, I can't call you creatures, so I'll
call you gentlemen. Nice to see you, to see you nicely,
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And they replied with.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Nice nice, Yeah, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So they started floating around the house again, and she
said that their wings did move, but not enough to
actually make them fly like they were, so they didn't
appear to be funk.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So like the wings are just there for show, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
But they were moving, so who knows, you know. But
they started to float around her house again, and she
said that she stayed there as they flew up the stairs,
but when they got up there, they found out all
her doors were closed, so they just came back down
stairs and passed the leave room and into her kitchen.
She followed them into there, and she he noticed that
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they had become fascinated by this bottle of booze that
she had, and she offered them a drink. She said,
would you like a drink? And they asked for water,
So m night, Shemelan was wrong. They love the shit
They preferred over brandy.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, brandy isn't very delicious, and water is nice and refreshing.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That was my favorite man, Brandy some irkin jerk.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Well, you are clearly not an alien, sir Boom.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Remember he said that everybody I proved that I'm not
an alien.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I approved that message. I will not be an alien.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
She said that she brought back four glasses of water
because she said she should bring one for herself and
show them how to drink, and that it was okay
to drink. And when they went to drink their water,
they kind of went to take off their little helmets
and drink and saw her looking at them, so they
blasted her with that light again. And when she was
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done with cocod.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You will not watch us drink water. Wow, they're they're
very self conscious, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, yeah, kind of. It's kind of weird that they
keep doing that to her, even though she's even asked
them to stop, and they've shown, like you said, consideration.
But there, I'll take that, bitch. She said that they
talked about a popular singer after that that they knew about.
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They noticed a pack of cigarettes and she asked if
they wanted to see how cigarettes worked and how they
were smoked, and they said yes, and she busted out
a lighter and lit it to light one of the cigarettes,
and that kind of freaked them out. And just then
she heard a loud, loud, deep come from the orb outside,
and that prompted the creatures to rush out of the
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back door and they tried to get into this. They
were headed towards this. What she can now see was
a craft, which she would call a UFO. She said
it was clearly a UFO. It was a long cylindrical one,
but she said the ends tapered. She said that it
was about ten feet long by five feet tall. She
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watched them enter the craft and the craft jetted up
into the sky, and she said that the light that
it emitted the orange light blinked two times before taking off,
which she said that she felt was them saying goodbye
to her a little wave. Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah yeah.
She said she felt elation and excitement over the encounter,
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but suddenly felt immense pain all over her body. And
now that's another thing that's commonly reported too, right, Mike,
the wearing off of this uh serenity sensation they get.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well, usually when it wears off, it's it's replaced with
like a sense of longing, like like they want to
go back with them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Oh you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, like like they're left with the void.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That's that's kind of weird. And you know what I
was just talking to somebody about, Like I don't know
if you ever got this when you were younger, Mike,
but like after concert blues.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah yeah, or or like after vacation, you know, like
like it's just you were having such a good time.
Then you go back to your real life and like,
oh really sucks, dick.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah. I remember when I was younger and I would
play music after playing a show, like one of us
would call one of us like at three in the morning,
be like, are you up and be like yeah, Like
are you bummed out? We'd be like yeah. And it
was just a very potent thing that everybody experienced after
after playing a show, no matter how long we did it,
no matter how many shows we played with that sensation
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still accompanied playing a show afterwards. And I wonder that's
a Do you think that's like a personality thing that
that some people have because of the experience, and maybe
it wasn't horrible for them.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, I think it could be. Like so, so like
with what you're talking about, it's likely your brain reacting
to the loss of the adrenaline and serotonin that you
were experiencing while playing, and then afterwards you don't have that,
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so it feels like there's a void in your brain.
It's that similar situation is with like if you if
you were to take ecstasy, and with ecstasy, you're it
creates added serotonin receptors in your brain and they're getting
they're all getting filled with with all the serotonin, and
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then after it wears off, you've got these empty receptors
that are remaining and you feel, you know, basically kind
of depressed because you've got these empty receptors that were
just being pumped full of happy juice and now they're
just sitting there empty and you're like, oh, this sucks,
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And you know it's because you don't have all of
all of the happy juice that flows through your brain anymore.
So I wonder if that if they're kind of simulate
or stimulating that sort of thing where where it's like
heightened adrenaline and like dopamine or serotonin going through your
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brain and you're just and and then once it's all
over with, you're like, I want to go back to that.
That was so awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And then you undergo the hypnotherapy and you're like, no, actually,
they removed your gallbladder, spit on it, wipe their testicles
across your face, then put your gallbladder back in upside
down and gave you a good slap on the ass
and sent you on your way. And you're like, well, fuck,
that was a terrible time. Why do I feel so
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good afterwards?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
You're never gonna poop the same way again? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
what a weird thing. Huh, what a weird thing?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, but but it The thing that's weirder to me
is that you can have other people that to them
this is this is a nightmare that haunts them for
the rest of their life. It's it's weird, right, right.
And then you have some people that it's in between,
like they had a good experience, but for whatever reason,
there's this underlying, uh sensation of like menace or terror
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and then and that it doesn't really click with what
their remembered experience was. So what really happened and how
did this memory replace what actually happened.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Hmmm, Yeah, I wasn't aware that that was the effects
of ecstasy. I've never taken that shit. I wouldn't know.
I've never been around them. Yeah, me neither, Yeah, so
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I just I've I've taken some classes about drug use
and stuff, so I know a bit about it, right, right.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So, I mean that sounds like something that would be
perfect to achieve that feeling for people who are going
through something like this, And that's something I mean, she
didn't drink anything till the end, and she felt that
heaven sensation in the beginning, so I don't think anything
was administered to her that way.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But again, this is all reliant on her memory. So
I've talked a bunch of times about the military abduction experience,
and how it's most likely humans that are staging these
sort of experiences, using a mix of hypnosis and some
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sort of drug cocktail to get someone to remember this
sort of thing, so they'll they'll they What they'll try
to do is erase the memory completely, but if it
were to resurface, they've got like a post hypnotic suggestion
that would detail what happened to them, but in the
frame of an alien abduction and there goes the shadow ban. Yeah,
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no one will ever hear this episode.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, they don't like one because I'm on to them.
They don't like when we talk about military abduction scenarios yet.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
No, they're pretty soon. I'm gonna be on a milk
carton somewhere and then they're gonna make milk illegal so
no one'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We have to put the post on the milk, but
we'll get rid of all the milk.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, the only way to get the word out that
he is missing is through milk cartons. But we will
make milk illegal and no one will know.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, I'm sure like only half our audience even knows
what the fuck I'm talking about with the milk. Curton bit,
but oh, yeah, you know, ask your parents, ask your
parents about it. Yeah, look up, Johnny, Gosh, have a
good day.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Okay, all right, So well.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I don't know if they'll have a good day with yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So after she got the sensation of all this pain
all over her body, she said she felt so bad
that she had to go lay down, and she did
on her couch and I don't know if she fell
asleep or just basically laid there, but she got up
at around four pm and early afternoon, and she said
that she finally felt good enough to get up, and
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when she did, she instantly ran to the phone and
called her husband and told him that she had visitors.
And I don't know if she was being incoherent and
he or were. I mean, we'll find out about his attitude,
but she just told him she had visitors and he
was kind of like, great, good, I'm glad, and she
said no, there were winged men and he was kind
(29:36):
of just like what And she was like, there were
weird people that were here with wings on that had
multiple colors in them and dots on them, and he
was like, okay, that's nice. Maybe you should like call
one of your friends and tell them and hung up
and went back to work. But that's exactly what she did.
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She called one of her girlfriends and told her about
the experience, like right right then and there after it happened,
and her friend suggested that she call the police, And
that always makes me laugh a little bit. But like,
who else? I mean, if you're gonna report something like
this happening, who else are you gonna call? I mean,
what do you think about when people call the police
(30:17):
for stuff like this, Like even like poltergeist activity. You
always see these episodes of unsolved mysteries or these poor
fucking cops are like, shit, dude, I don't know what
to do about ship flying off the walls or blood
coming down out of the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I wasn't trained for this. No, maybe they should start
including that in police academy, Like how to deal with poltergeist, Yeah,
what to do during a bigfoot attack, how to deal
with demonic possession.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, what do you think about that? I mean, do
you think you would do that? If? I mean something
like we understand how traumatic this is and how traumatic
this can be if you had that happen to you
and it's scared the fuck out of you do you
think are you going to call the police? Are you
going to just be like fucking no, one's gonna believe me.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Fuck no, I'm not calling the police.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Really, they're going to notify the FBI and they're gonna
take you.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I'm absolutely never calling the police for any paranormal activity
or alien visitation scenario.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, I always, I always have.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I will call the police if my house is being
attacked by Gules.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh okay, so.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'll be like, yo, I need I need a SWAT
team because there's Gules attacking my house, Like what do
you mean Gules? And then they'll think that it's like
a bunch of like a raving army of meth heads
or something, and then they'll get here and it's actually
fucking Ghules.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
That would be awesome. You got to word it right though,
Like there's that phone call.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And I disagree. That would be very unawesome. I would
hate to have my house surrounded by.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Gules, but with swat on the way, that would be
the worst. You're gonna have like the most viral video
of all time.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I mean I guess I could. But what if what
if they take a no holds barred approach, and they
fucking gun me down too, because I look like a ghoul.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
M They could just throw them all atop out on
your front door and just be like they're in fact.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, that's that's all it takes. Burn the whole fucking playstone.
Who knows if that shit's contagious.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Oh god, yeah, that's people don't think about that stuff.
What if does come out? But his farts just like
cause like pestilence and shit.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Nope, it's all madness.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's just the sight of them will cause you go mad.
But his farts will just make you try to eat
your own toenails for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, that's the thing. You don't need to see him.
You just have to smell his fishy farts, and that's
that's all it takes.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh man, So it depends on which way he's facing,
what he rises from the sea. That's what's gonna happen
to that part of the world. The whole Western hemisphere
is trying to bite their toes off. The Eastern atmosphere
is running around the streets naked, trying to bash their
own heads in Cthulhu has rhysen.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, and somewhere in the middle, you've got naked people
bashing their heads on other people's feet.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Oh no, don't do it, guys, fight the urge to
bite your toenails. That's gross. Even if you're being possessed
by an ancient space being, there's no excuse.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
They don't know any better, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So after she called the police, they actually responded and
they did something which I think is really really fucking awesome,
even for the time. This is like like seventy eight,
I think, so it's it's I think it was a
really great response. The police didn't know what to think
about this, so they fucking called a UFO investigative team
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and they came right over to her house, and they
did find a huge impression and missing snow where she
said this craft landed. But that was the only thing
they were able to find, and they were.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
They able to do these sort of like tests on.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It or anything. They I believe they said it had
a it was radioactive, like a higher level than just
stagnant radioactive levels, but I don't I think that from
what I read, that was basically the only the only
thing that substantiated her claim. But it was a big
old missing patch of snow and from what I understand,
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an indentation from this thing being parked there, and it
was exactly where she said it was.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, maybe maybe she saw the indentations first and then
conveniently made up the soul story.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Maybe maybe, But it doesn't end there. That is not
the end of this ordeal.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Well, do go on?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Then, she said that she suffered long term effects from
them blasting her in the head with that light threasking question,
she said that it physically hurt her head and that
it actually left a mark on her head, which she
was interviewed many times afterwards, and apparently she did have
this mark. She said that she did have some issues
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with her eyes, but after the ordeal she was basically
left wearing dark glasses permanently after that, and she said
the beats that their buttons made when they pressed them
were so loud that she was left with permanent hearing damage.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
So some some after effects, right right? Interesting? Yes, hmm, yeah,
I mean there's a lot of cases like this where
there's there's like physical effects left on the victim's body, huh.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Especially there's some people who wake up with the markings
that they don't understand or can't explain. And and there's
sometimes they're weird things like patterns and injuries that they
don't remember getting and they don't make sense and they
link it to the alien stuff. But this is something
that she went through. This is something that she had
an explanation for. I have this mark here because they
blasted my fuck and forehead with this fucking training light.
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But about a week after that, her Christmas tree turned
up missing, just vanished, those bastards. Yeah, so she thought
that was strange and directly related that to these visitors.
That wasn't the end of that either, she said. Over
the next week or two, the ornaments that were on
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her tree started to show up in her backyard.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Well that's weird, yeah, randomly, but still no tree.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah. Still she did not get a tree back, but
her ornaments did appear reappear randomly and sporadically over a
short period a short period of time.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Maybe it seems weird if they were like, I don't know,
like why why they're just like, let's just fucking leave
some Christmas ornaments here, like we're sorry, oh wait, we
found another one. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, I wonder what that was about. Maybe them just
playing with her, teasing with her, who knows, but there
was just such a weird case. A lot of elements
there that match up with other cases. Even the creatures
match up with other creatures in several different ways, like
we talked about. But this lady's been interviewed many, many times.
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You know this this happened in the late seventies, so
you can look it up. There's there's more to her story.
There's she goes into a lot of detail about what happened.
There's other weird things that happened, Like she said that
when she was laying down to rest, she said that
she would see a partial, tall, cloaked person that would
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kind of phase in and out standing over her. You know,
it was just a very bizarre experience. That's yeah, that's
a little underving. But also like I wonder if if
these like after the like these things that happen afterwards
are a way to discredit her, just in case there's
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something that goes wrong. Like like just so you tell
a story about a weird angel alien encounter, then you
so so automatically like you're you're talking about something fantastical.
Then they steal your Christmas tree, but they will leave
(38:24):
little Christmas ornaments for you to look at in the
backyard that they and you're like, hey, I remember when
that was on my stone Christmas tree, and it's in
my backyard. And then you send some shadowy figure to
just lean over you while you're asleep. So then you're like, oh, no,
I'm being visited. But you know it just this all
adds up together and you're like, okay, all right, sure,
(38:47):
and it's like the the Manhattan abduction thing where the
story just keeps going and you're like, all right, lady, okay, Yeah,
that's one thing I noticed. It's it's such a sudden
change in behavior. They're able to talk to you about
Jesus and the Queen of England and communicate with you
and even punish you with I mean asking questions. I
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don't think she was like what's what's the construct of
time and space? Where did life begin? I don't think
she was asking things that would cause them to feel
like they even had a dodger question. They were kind
of just like shut a bit and shut her in
the head with this thing. And then even that's like
I can understand why they do that. Maybe they just
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weren't supposed to be interacting her with her as much
as they can. But they did tell her that they
constantly come down and try to talk to people. They
said that, They told her they go to fuck England,
the United States and Australia and try to talk to
people all the time, but nobody seems to be interested.
But it was such a weird change of behavior to
(39:54):
be cordial and like even like I said, demonstrate like
a maybe like some type of consideration like you said,
and then to just do stuff that try to make
her seem crazy, almost steal her Christmas tree. It almost
seems like they try to show her their best representation
of a ghost and then putting backward ornaments. That's that's
(40:14):
like CIA operative fucking tactics to make somebody.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Go crazy, like Paul Benowitz exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, that seems very weird, very a big change of
attitude from these things, you know, and from honking when
they left to having to add, well, my christmastery disappeared.
Wait the ornaments are back, you know, Okay, lady, So
maybe they construct some of this far fetchedness during some
of these abductions.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, maybe it's all made up. They made up the
whole goddamn thing. There's never been aliens.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Got what if there is no need for the probing,
they're just like all right, time time for the dish.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
They just do it for kicks.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
No, it's more of the disinfo party, like all right,
we gotta muddy the waters. We took their blood sample,
we took their reproductive Oh.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
They're muddying something madea thank.
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What's up everybody, Thanks for listening to the what cast? Mike.
How much snow are you under right now? Not very much.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Most of it melted today because it rained.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Oh god, snow and then rain.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah yeah, this time of here, it's usually how it goes.
We'll get we'll get a few inches of snow, and
then a few days later it'll rain and all the
snow goes away. And actually, this next week I'm looking
like I'll be in the mid to high forties, so
a little bit of a heat wave going into the
winter season.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, you'll have your sprinklers on running around in the
front yard.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, yeah, get out, get out the Hawaiian shirt and
swim trunks. It's gonna be nice.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well, fucking Thanksgiving came and went. What's your thoughts on Christmas? Mike?
Do you like the Christmas season?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
No? I fucking hate it. I hate Christmas music, I
hate Christmas decorations. I hate the fact that I always
blow my back out every year having to get the
Christmas decorations, not to mention that a Christmas tree is
the reason that I have a bionic leg now, so
it's you know, Christmas. Christmas is just annoying. To me,
(01:33):
and I go along with it because you know everybody
else likes it.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I think we're on the exact same page with Christmas.
But just to uh, it's just because it's December, really
not because of Christmas. We've got a christmas y type
of a really weird Christmas the type of case here.
It's made its rounds on YouTube and we got a
couple requests for us to cover it, so we're going
(01:59):
to it is the case of the minced Pie Martians.
Have you heard anything about this, Mike.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I have never heard of such a thing, but I'm
very interested.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, there's a couple YouTube videos out there. I'll put
them in the show notes because they're great videos. But
there's a couple of our homies that sent us links
to a couple other videos, and after reading about it
and watching these videos, I was just blown away. We
love the weird ones, so that's what we're going to do.
This story comes from a lady named Jeane Hingley from
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a bluestone walk in raleg Regi's, England, and she states
that on January fourth, nineteen seventy nine, she was waving
goodbye to her husband as she saw him off to
work with her dog, Bobo. At around six thirty am.
After he drove off, she noticed a light near their garage,
(02:50):
and she figured that her husband had left a light
on inside the garage and she started to make her
way to it to turn it off. And that's when
as she got closer, she realized that it the light
wasn't coming from her garage, but above her garage. She
said that it was a very bright, orange, glowing orb
and it was hovering above the garage, and it was
(03:12):
bright enough to light up her entire backyard and produce heat.
This kind of freaked her out, so she made her
way back into her house with her dog and she
watched the glowing orb from her back doorway. The orb
floated towards her house, stopped, and then landed in the
middle of her backyard. She said that the orb changed
(03:35):
color from orange to white as it landed, and as
it finished landing, it started to emit a buzzing, slash
electric sound, which caused her to run inside the house completely.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, at least she had the sense to escape at
some point.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You know, right, yeah, I already liked her attitude already,
which is fuck this and fuck no I'm getting out
of ear. Okay. So as she ran into her house,
she ran into her kitchen, which is the back door
led directly into her kitchen. She turned around to see
what she described as three four foot tall glowing beings
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float through the back door and into her kitchen.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And is there any more to the description than that,
or just oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
We're it's gonna go okay, all right, all right? She
mentioned that they were glowing so bright that she couldn't
make out any other shape, And she said at this
point she noticed that she had become paralyzed with fear.
And she watched the creatures enter her living room, but
she noticed that her dog Bobo, started acting strange. She
(04:40):
said that he kind of moved around to his water bowl,
kind of confused and groggy. He laid down next to
it and seemed to freeze in place with his eyes open.
And that's what made it stand out to her and
seem strange, is he didn't go to sleep. His eyes
were wide open. He just kind of put his head down. Now,
she said that she started to notice what she called
(05:02):
a change in herself and her thinking. Now, a lot
of times there's people who experience stuff like this, like,
correct me if I'm wrong. They when they have these
encounters with supposed aliens, they some of them get this
sense of like overwhelming peace. And that's what she got.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, like almost like lulled into I don't want
to say, a comatose state, maybe like a sedated sort
of state.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Right, And that kind of gave me a question, especially
after covering the Manhattan abduction. Now, I think the manhattanbduction,
if that was real, that was a case of whatever
they used to put us to sleep and forget and
all that stuff, of that type of procedure not working
too well. Do you think that when people are getting
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these overwhelming sensations of peace, of not fear, of not
being afraid, do you think that's whatever procedures that's used
to do that working too well.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
No, I would say it's working just as intended.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Hmmm. Yeah. There's certain drugs that can make you feel
like that, so still could be people.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, well, I mean not only drugs, but but like hypnosis, right, god,
you know, and because we're we're getting we're getting these
reports as like a person's recollection of what was occurring.
So if there was a hypnosis effect that took place.
They would probably not even have any recollection of the
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hypnosis taking place if the person that's hypnotizing them didn't
want them to know.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, so what do you think about them having some
type of alternate form of hypnosis, something instantaneous? What do
you I mean, do you think that's a lot of
these lights that people are describing.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, it's probably the lights and maybe some sort of
tone or frequency. Ooh, maybe an unhearable frequency. That's yeah,
that's but it's still but your body can still feel it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, your ears can pick it up. It's
just not an audible tone for you. That's scary, dude.
You just hear some subwile for break and you just
start clucking like a chicken. That's all it takes. Government
has like hypnosis songs. Oh, let's make a hypnotizing song.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Dude, a hypnotizing song.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Maybe I don't know if that's a very good idea,
and maybe it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Won't work, but it'll be our interpretation of what a
song that can cause somebody be hypnotized would sound like. Okay, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It can be. The message will be send Mike all
the cool books. Yeah, send Mike all the cool books.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh yeah, we'll do some subliminal messaging in there as well.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So she said that she got that sense of peace.
She said that she got a feeling of everything is
going to be okay. She said she felt like a
different person. She said she knew she wasn't dead, but
felt the sensation that many describe as being in heaven
completely at peace. So that that's like again an.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Extremes so when she says like when she says like
in heaven, like a feeling of ecstasy.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Here she she described as being completely at peace, like
no fear of anything, no anxiety of over what was happening,
just completely at ease with everything that was going on
in a deep sense.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I guess I got you okay, all right?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I mean that could be through hypnosis or some sort
of drug or combination of the two, right right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So she made in her way into the leaving room
after these these creatures, but quickly had shield her eyes
from the bright white light that was coming from them.
She said that suddenly she felt like the beings were
peacefully scanning her mind and can tell and understand that
the creatures could now understand her. She kind of felt
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like they understood that their lights were too bright for
her to even see them or see anything, so they
actually dimmed these lights just enough for her to see
what they actually look like. I'm going to use some
quotes from her from this case. She said they were
three little slim men in silvery gray tunics and silver
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waistcoats with six silver buttons going down the front of
the chest. They're about three between three and four feet tall.
They varied in height. Their arms ended in points with
no fingers, and those two were covered in a silver rematerial.
I noticed right away that sounds like uh, drill hands there.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, yeah, so maybe it's a type of species or
something like that. She said.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They also did he also have the cool eighty spiked hair.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
No, they had. That's her next descriptions that they had
silver pointed caps with a light on the top. So
maybe like a.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Like a short dun Sky updated fashion.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, exactly. Maybe they're just the high tech version. Maybe
if they took us off, they'd have the cool little
nubs there you go. Or maybe these ones grew mullets instead.
Oh boo, instant boo, don't have don't have a mullet.
Everyone Rule number one, don't have a mullet. She also
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said that they had a glass dome that covered their
heads that went down to their shoulders, not just to
their necks, and their faces were waxy and pale, like
that of a corpse, and they had no hair or eyebrows,
and another familiar description, she said their eyes were black.
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She called them black diamond eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Black diamond eyes. I wonder if they were like I
wonder if it was like the classic almond shape but
like because that's like vaguely diamond shape, you know, or
I wonder if they were like glistening like diamonds. What
did she mean by it?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Right, it's kind of like with the Hopkinsville Goblins ones
those I've seen drawn with actual like crystal like diamonds
in their eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But I know, yeah, I know, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I know that they in the in the case then
they did just describe him as gleaming like diamonds. Yeah,
so who knows?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, So what does she mean?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Right? Yeah? I wonder if they're like actual black stone
looking crystals, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh yeah, maybe it's like some sort of like construct
or something.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Oh yeah, like their powers that give him energy to function,
but she said, had another classic description, a thin mouth
just like the grays there with no nose or ears,
so again matching other species of aliens that have been reported.
Do you get the sense of a little bit of
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a chmira activity going on? Is this like some type of.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yet, But I feel like a lot of these sort
of things get kind of into that territory, and even
cryptids too, Like just the way that they're described, it
seems like they're kind of like a chimera of sorts.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Right, Or maybe some genetic engineering going on, a mixing
of different types of alien species to make a certain
type of species to do certain things.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Always a possibility, Or maybe they're just weird fucking alien guys.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, they're about to get weirder, she said. They had large,
old shaped, multi colored wings covered in dots, similar to brail.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
What. Yeah, but now they're starting to sound like some
sort of Marvel villain or something.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
She said that they had several silver streamers that hung
from their shoulders down to their waist, and that they
crossed their arms over their chests. Their legs dangled freely.
She said, then they started to run amuck. They floated
over to her Christmas tree, which was up, and they
started to shake the tree and examine everything on it.
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After that, they started flying around the living room and
touching everything, and she said that it seemed like their
hands were almost like magnetized to anything they touched. Their
hands had no fingers, but whatever they touch just stuck
to their little pointing nub there. She said that at
this point she found herself stunned again, and she said
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that her face was stuck in an expression of shock.
But it was stuck like that for a moment, but
she regained her composure again and she wasted no time
in asking the creatures, you know, what did they want
with her? What were they going to do with her?
And after pressing some buttons on their chest, which caused
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loud beeping sounds, they all said, in unison and raspy voices,
we shall cause you no harm. She said that she
could tell.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Nothing's less creepy.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Okay, sure, buddy, yeah, yeah, that doesn't sound appealing at all.
But she said that she could tell that they couldn't
understand certain words she was saying, so they would hit
the buttons she said, one, two, three very quickly, and
they would understand what she would say. She said the
beeps were very, very loud. They were loud enough to
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hurt her ears. But she said to them, which is
a funny way of talking, she said, you can learn
a lot from me with that bleep bleep. And she
said that. They said, they responded with the enthusiasm. Yes, yes,
we can. So they went back to the Christmas tree
suddenly and started to shake it so violently that the
(15:23):
angel on top of the tree fell off. And she
told them, quote, we put a tree up at Christmas
because we believe Jesus was born then. And they replied,
we know all about Jesus.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Are they implying that he was an alien.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Or that they were around at the time of Jesus.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Or maybe both. Maybe Jesus was one of them and
he was around back then, and they belled and he
was he got left behind, and he's like, ah shit,
he was the star. But also then he possessed the baby.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I better pretend to be the senate guy.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's the only way. He didn't. He didn't know the
way it was gonna end, and if he did, he
would get the fuck out of Dutch.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's why their back. They're pissed off about humans killing
their their homie.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, yeah, they're like, yo, Jesus was our boy and
you guys fucked him up because you're assholes.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, they did a lot of weird stuff during this
little visit. They noticed a newspaper that had a list
of citizens that were being honored, I guess, And she
said the creatures told her that these people have been
made lords, but there is only one lord. It sounds
like she had she had at me, like Christian is it?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Is it Jesus? Alien? Is that the one Lord?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Holy shit, Mike, that just backed up your whole theory.
God damn, why does that always happen?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah? Do you see that? I didn't even know what
was going on with this story, but now I know.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
God damn, Well, this might even back it up further.
She said that they talked to her for a great
length about Jesus and about the Queen of England. She
said that out there talking to them for a while,
she was puzzled at why they were visiting her if
that's the type of stuff that they knew about, And
she told them you should talk to the queen or
(17:17):
a real lady, and they replied to them, the little
cutie pies told her, you are a real lady.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
She said that, Oh, did they pet her on the
head too, Yeah, gently kissed her hand. She said they
all floated over to her couch and started to jump
all over it like a bunch of little kids, and
that she basically yelled at them to be careful with
her furniture. And she said she had a bark at
(17:45):
them like that a few times, and each time she did,
the light on their hats would glow and basically blast
a beam of light right onto her forehead that would
paralyze her. And she said that they started to blast
her with this light anytime she fucking asked them anything.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's a little unnerving.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah. She said that she told them not to do
that because it hurt her eyes. She said it hurt
her head as well. It physically hurt her head. And
she said that they continued to do it, but the
light wasn't as intense or painful.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
They're there, so they're considerate at least, they're like, all right, well,
well we'll demn it down just a bit for you.
We want to make your abduction experience as pleasurable as possible.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It kind of reminded me of the doctor or the dentist,
So like, is that is that too hard? Or is
that too fast? Okay, we'll relax, well, we'll tone it
down or something sounds it sounds very procedural, like they
almost had they knew that might happen, so they're just
like without saying all right, we'll turn it down. Yeah. Yeah. Basically,
she said that she stopped asking them anything because this
(18:55):
light was so painful even with it turned down, that
she didn't want to get hit with it again, and
she felt like she was being punished with this light,
so she decided to make small talk with them, and
she said, quote, I can't call you creatures, so I'll
call you gentlemen. Nice to see you, to see you nicely,
(19:16):
And they replied with.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Nice nice, Yeah, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So they started floating around the house again, and she
said that their wings did move, but not enough to
actually make them fly like they were, so they didn't
appear to be funk.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So like the wings are just there for show, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
But they were moving, so who knows, you know. But
they started to float around her house again, and she
said that she stayed there as they flew up the stairs,
but when they got up there, they found out all
her doors were closed, so they just came back down
stairs and passed the leave room and into her kitchen.
She followed them into there, and she he noticed that
(20:01):
they had become fascinated by this bottle of booze that
she had, and she offered them a drink. She said,
would you like a drink? And they asked for water,
So m night, Shemelan was wrong. They love the shit
They preferred over brandy.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, brandy isn't very delicious, and water is nice and refreshing.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That was my favorite man, Brandy some irkin jerk.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Well, you are clearly not an alien, sir Boom.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Remember he said that everybody I proved that I'm not
an alien.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I approved that message. I will not be an alien.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
She said that she brought back four glasses of water
because she said she should bring one for herself and
show them how to drink, and that it was okay
to drink. And when they went to drink their water,
they kind of went to take off their little helmets
and drink and saw her looking at them, so they
blasted her with that light again. And when she was
(21:00):
done with cocod.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You will not watch us drink water. Wow, they're they're
very self conscious, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, yeah, kind of. It's kind of weird that they
keep doing that to her, even though she's even asked
them to stop, and they've shown, like you said, consideration.
But there, I'll take that, bitch. She said that they
talked about a popular singer after that that they knew about.
(21:30):
They noticed a pack of cigarettes and she asked if
they wanted to see how cigarettes worked and how they
were smoked, and they said yes, and she busted out
a lighter and lit it to light one of the cigarettes,
and that kind of freaked them out. And just then
she heard a loud, loud, deep come from the orb outside,
and that prompted the creatures to rush out of the
(21:50):
back door and they tried to get into this. They
were headed towards this. What she can now see was
a craft, which she would call a UFO. She said
it was clearly a UFO. It was a long cylindrical one,
but she said the ends tapered. She said that it
was about ten feet long by five feet tall. She
(22:12):
watched them enter the craft and the craft jetted up
into the sky, and she said that the light that
it emitted the orange light blinked two times before taking off,
which she said that she felt was them saying goodbye
to her a little wave. Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah yeah.
She said she felt elation and excitement over the encounter,
(22:33):
but suddenly felt immense pain all over her body. And
now that's another thing that's commonly reported too, right, Mike,
the wearing off of this uh serenity sensation they get.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well, usually when it wears off, it's it's replaced with
like a sense of longing, like like they want to
go back with them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Oh you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, like like they're left with the void.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That's that's kind of weird. And you know what I
was just talking to somebody about, Like I don't know
if you ever got this when you were younger, Mike,
but like after concert blues.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah yeah, or or like after vacation, you know, like
like it's just you were having such a good time.
Then you go back to your real life and like,
oh really sucks, dick.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah. I remember when I was younger and I would
play music after playing a show, like one of us
would call one of us like at three in the morning,
be like, are you up and be like yeah, Like
are you bummed out? We'd be like yeah. And it
was just a very potent thing that everybody experienced after
after playing a show, no matter how long we did it,
no matter how many shows we played with that sensation
(23:43):
still accompanied playing a show afterwards. And I wonder that's
a Do you think that's like a personality thing that
that some people have because of the experience, and maybe
it wasn't horrible for them.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, I think it could be. Like so, so like
with what you're talking about, it's likely your brain reacting
to the loss of the adrenaline and serotonin that you
were experiencing while playing, and then afterwards you don't have that,
(24:17):
so it feels like there's a void in your brain.
It's that similar situation is with like if you if
you were to take ecstasy, and with ecstasy, you're it
creates added serotonin receptors in your brain and they're getting
they're all getting filled with with all the serotonin, and
(24:38):
then after it wears off, you've got these empty receptors
that are remaining and you feel, you know, basically kind
of depressed because you've got these empty receptors that were
just being pumped full of happy juice and now they're
just sitting there empty and you're like, oh, this sucks,
(24:59):
And you know it's because you don't have all of
all of the happy juice that flows through your brain anymore.
So I wonder if that if they're kind of simulate
or stimulating that sort of thing where where it's like
heightened adrenaline and like dopamine or serotonin going through your
(25:19):
brain and you're just and and then once it's all
over with, you're like, I want to go back to that.
That was so awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And then you undergo the hypnotherapy and you're like, no, actually,
they removed your gallbladder, spit on it, wipe their testicles
across your face, then put your gallbladder back in upside
down and gave you a good slap on the ass
and sent you on your way. And you're like, well, fuck,
that was a terrible time. Why do I feel so
(25:48):
good afterwards?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
You're never gonna poop the same way again? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
what a weird thing. Huh, what a weird thing?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, but but it The thing that's weirder to me
is that you can have other people that to them
this is this is a nightmare that haunts them for
the rest of their life. It's it's weird, right, right.
And then you have some people that it's in between,
like they had a good experience, but for whatever reason,
there's this underlying, uh sensation of like menace or terror
(26:23):
and then and that it doesn't really click with what
their remembered experience was. So what really happened and how
did this memory replace what actually happened.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Hmmm, Yeah, I wasn't aware that that was the effects
of ecstasy. I've never taken that shit. I wouldn't know.
I've never been around them. Yeah, me neither, Yeah, so
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I just I've I've taken some classes about drug use
and stuff, so I know a bit about it, right, right.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So, I mean that sounds like something that would be
perfect to achieve that feeling for people who are going
through something like this, And that's something I mean, she
didn't drink anything till the end, and she felt that
heaven sensation in the beginning, so I don't think anything
was administered to her that way.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But again, this is all reliant on her memory. So
I've talked a bunch of times about the military abduction experience,
and how it's most likely humans that are staging these
sort of experiences, using a mix of hypnosis and some
(27:32):
sort of drug cocktail to get someone to remember this
sort of thing, so they'll they'll they What they'll try
to do is erase the memory completely, but if it
were to resurface, they've got like a post hypnotic suggestion
that would detail what happened to them, but in the
frame of an alien abduction and there goes the shadow ban. Yeah,
(27:56):
no one will ever hear this episode.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, they don't like one because I'm on to them.
They don't like when we talk about military abduction scenarios yet.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
No, they're pretty soon. I'm gonna be on a milk
carton somewhere and then they're gonna make milk illegal so
no one'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We have to put the post on the milk, but
we'll get rid of all the milk.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, the only way to get the word out that
he is missing is through milk cartons. But we will
make milk illegal and no one will know.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, I'm sure like only half our audience even knows
what the fuck I'm talking about with the milk. Curton bit,
but oh, yeah, you know, ask your parents, ask your
parents about it. Yeah, look up, Johnny, Gosh, have a
good day.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Okay, all right, So well.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I don't know if they'll have a good day with yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So after she got the sensation of all this pain
all over her body, she said she felt so bad
that she had to go lay down, and she did
on her couch and I don't know if she fell
asleep or just basically laid there, but she got up
at around four pm and early afternoon, and she said
that she finally felt good enough to get up, and
(29:12):
when she did, she instantly ran to the phone and
called her husband and told him that she had visitors.
And I don't know if she was being incoherent and
he or were. I mean, we'll find out about his attitude,
but she just told him she had visitors and he
was kind of like, great, good, I'm glad, and she
said no, there were winged men and he was kind
(29:36):
of just like what And she was like, there were
weird people that were here with wings on that had
multiple colors in them and dots on them, and he
was like, okay, that's nice. Maybe you should like call
one of your friends and tell them and hung up
and went back to work. But that's exactly what she did.
(29:57):
She called one of her girlfriends and told her about
the experience, like right right then and there after it happened,
and her friend suggested that she call the police, And
that always makes me laugh a little bit. But like,
who else? I mean, if you're gonna report something like
this happening, who else are you gonna call? I mean,
what do you think about when people call the police
(30:17):
for stuff like this, Like even like poltergeist activity. You
always see these episodes of unsolved mysteries or these poor
fucking cops are like, shit, dude, I don't know what
to do about ship flying off the walls or blood
coming down out of the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I wasn't trained for this. No, maybe they should start
including that in police academy, Like how to deal with poltergeist, Yeah,
what to do during a bigfoot attack, how to deal
with demonic possession.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, what do you think about that? I mean, do
you think you would do that? If? I mean something
like we understand how traumatic this is and how traumatic
this can be if you had that happen to you
and it's scared the fuck out of you do you
think are you going to call the police? Are you
going to just be like fucking no, one's gonna believe me.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Fuck no, I'm not calling the police.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Really, they're going to notify the FBI and they're gonna
take you.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I'm absolutely never calling the police for any paranormal activity
or alien visitation scenario.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, I always, I always have.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I will call the police if my house is being
attacked by Gules.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh okay, so.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'll be like, yo, I need I need a SWAT
team because there's Gules attacking my house, Like what do
you mean Gules? And then they'll think that it's like
a bunch of like a raving army of meth heads
or something, and then they'll get here and it's actually
fucking Ghules.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
That would be awesome. You got to word it right though,
Like there's that phone call.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And I disagree. That would be very unawesome. I would
hate to have my house surrounded by.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Gules, but with swat on the way, that would be
the worst. You're gonna have like the most viral video
of all time.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I mean I guess I could. But what if what
if they take a no holds barred approach, and they
fucking gun me down too, because I look like a ghoul.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
M They could just throw them all atop out on
your front door and just be like they're in fact.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, that's that's all it takes. Burn the whole fucking playstone.
Who knows if that shit's contagious.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Oh god, yeah, that's people don't think about that stuff.
What if does come out? But his farts just like
cause like pestilence and shit.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Nope, it's all madness.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's just the sight of them will cause you go mad.
But his farts will just make you try to eat
your own toenails for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, that's the thing. You don't need to see him.
You just have to smell his fishy farts, and that's
that's all it takes.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh man, So it depends on which way he's facing,
what he rises from the sea. That's what's gonna happen
to that part of the world. The whole Western hemisphere
is trying to bite their toes off. The Eastern atmosphere
is running around the streets naked, trying to bash their
own heads in Cthulhu has rhysen.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, and somewhere in the middle, you've got naked people
bashing their heads on other people's feet.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Oh no, don't do it, guys, fight the urge to
bite your toenails. That's gross. Even if you're being possessed
by an ancient space being, there's no excuse.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
They don't know any better, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So after she called the police, they actually responded and
they did something which I think is really really fucking awesome,
even for the time. This is like like seventy eight,
I think, so it's it's I think it was a
really great response. The police didn't know what to think
about this, so they fucking called a UFO investigative team
(33:46):
and they came right over to her house, and they
did find a huge impression and missing snow where she
said this craft landed. But that was the only thing
they were able to find, and they were.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
They able to do these sort of like tests on.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It or anything. They I believe they said it had
a it was radioactive, like a higher level than just
stagnant radioactive levels, but I don't I think that from
what I read, that was basically the only the only
thing that substantiated her claim. But it was a big
old missing patch of snow and from what I understand,
(34:25):
an indentation from this thing being parked there, and it
was exactly where she said it was.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, maybe maybe she saw the indentations first and then
conveniently made up the soul story.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Maybe maybe, But it doesn't end there. That is not
the end of this ordeal.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Well, do go on?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Then, she said that she suffered long term effects from
them blasting her in the head with that light threasking question,
she said that it physically hurt her head and that
it actually left a mark on her head, which she
was interviewed many times afterwards, and apparently she did have
this mark. She said that she did have some issues
(35:06):
with her eyes, but after the ordeal she was basically
left wearing dark glasses permanently after that, and she said
the beats that their buttons made when they pressed them
were so loud that she was left with permanent hearing damage.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
So some some after effects, right right? Interesting? Yes, hmm, yeah,
I mean there's a lot of cases like this where
there's there's like physical effects left on the victim's body, huh.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Especially there's some people who wake up with the markings
that they don't understand or can't explain. And and there's
sometimes they're weird things like patterns and injuries that they
don't remember getting and they don't make sense and they
link it to the alien stuff. But this is something
that she went through. This is something that she had
an explanation for. I have this mark here because they
blasted my fuck and forehead with this fucking training light.
(36:03):
But about a week after that, her Christmas tree turned
up missing, just vanished, those bastards. Yeah, so she thought
that was strange and directly related that to these visitors.
That wasn't the end of that either, she said. Over
the next week or two, the ornaments that were on
(36:24):
her tree started to show up in her backyard.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Well that's weird, yeah, randomly, but still no tree.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah. Still she did not get a tree back, but
her ornaments did appear reappear randomly and sporadically over a
short period a short period of time.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Maybe it seems weird if they were like, I don't know,
like why why they're just like, let's just fucking leave
some Christmas ornaments here, like we're sorry, oh wait, we
found another one. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, I wonder what that was about. Maybe them just
playing with her, teasing with her, who knows, but there
was just such a weird case. A lot of elements
there that match up with other cases. Even the creatures
match up with other creatures in several different ways, like
we talked about. But this lady's been interviewed many, many times.
(37:19):
You know this this happened in the late seventies, so
you can look it up. There's there's more to her story.
There's she goes into a lot of detail about what happened.
There's other weird things that happened, Like she said that
when she was laying down to rest, she said that
she would see a partial, tall, cloaked person that would
(37:41):
kind of phase in and out standing over her. You know,
it was just a very bizarre experience. That's yeah, that's
a little underving. But also like I wonder if if
these like after the like these things that happen afterwards
are a way to discredit her, just in case there's
(38:03):
something that goes wrong. Like like just so you tell
a story about a weird angel alien encounter, then you
so so automatically like you're you're talking about something fantastical.
Then they steal your Christmas tree, but they will leave
(38:24):
little Christmas ornaments for you to look at in the
backyard that they and you're like, hey, I remember when
that was on my stone Christmas tree, and it's in
my backyard. And then you send some shadowy figure to
just lean over you while you're asleep. So then you're like, oh, no,
I'm being visited. But you know it just this all
adds up together and you're like, okay, all right, sure,
(38:47):
and it's like the the Manhattan abduction thing where the
story just keeps going and you're like, all right, lady, okay, Yeah,
that's one thing I noticed. It's it's such a sudden
change in behavior. They're able to talk to you about
Jesus and the Queen of England and communicate with you
and even punish you with I mean asking questions. I
(39:09):
don't think she was like what's what's the construct of
time and space? Where did life begin? I don't think
she was asking things that would cause them to feel
like they even had a dodger question. They were kind
of just like shut a bit and shut her in
the head with this thing. And then even that's like
I can understand why they do that. Maybe they just
(39:31):
weren't supposed to be interacting her with her as much
as they can. But they did tell her that they
constantly come down and try to talk to people. They
said that, They told her they go to fuck England,
the United States and Australia and try to talk to
people all the time, but nobody seems to be interested.
But it was such a weird change of behavior to
(39:54):
be cordial and like even like I said, demonstrate like
a maybe like some type of consideration like you said,
and then to just do stuff that try to make
her seem crazy, almost steal her Christmas tree. It almost
seems like they try to show her their best representation
of a ghost and then putting backward ornaments. That's that's
(40:14):
like CIA operative fucking tactics to make somebody.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Go crazy, like Paul Benowitz exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, that seems very weird, very a big change of
attitude from these things, you know, and from honking when
they left to having to add, well, my christmastery disappeared.
Wait the ornaments are back, you know, Okay, lady, So
maybe they construct some of this far fetchedness during some
of these abductions.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, maybe it's all made up. They made up the
whole goddamn thing. There's never been aliens.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Got what if there is no need for the probing,
they're just like all right, time time for the dish.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
They just do it for kicks.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
No, it's more of the disinfo party, like all right,
we gotta muddy the waters. We took their blood sample,
we took their reproductive Oh.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
They're muddying something madea thank.
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