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December 16, 2024 59 mins
By this point, unless you're living under a rock, you should be aware of the drone situation in New Jersey.  A fleet of unidentified aerial vehicles have been reported in the skies over New Jersey for weeks, and it seems that now there are similar reports popping up in various areas all over the country.
Just what the Hell is going on?  Is it a foreign adversary? US Military operations? Aliens? Hollow Earth Deros?  

This week, Mike and Mateo made their first attempt at recording a show with a live audience commenting and asking questions. 

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's up everybody? Thanks for listening to the what cast?
My holy shit? What the fuck is happening?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Dude? End of the goddamn world?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Sure seems like it according to Instagram.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, I mean, fuck, dude, you're you're getting tsunamis and tornadoes.
I had to deal with tornadoes all year during the summer.
Like we're on the brink of it. Man, that the
Earth wants is gone. It's it's saying, hey, human, fuck
off and die. And I mean, really, at this point,
can I blame it? We're not only not only are

(00:56):
we being assholes in the normal sense, but now we're
sending fucking drones everywhere. You know, you know how much
of a carbon footprint that's gonna leave. Goddamn ridiculous Matteo. Frankly,
I'm siding with the Earth. I've had enough.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, I'm starting to believe you.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
If I could produce a hurricane, I would start fucking
weaponizing hurricanes as well.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh well, people have people have.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh yeah, let's let's let's not get into harp this
early on. Although what if these drones are weather control devices?
That's that's what they're secretly there for. They're just like
distracting everyone. And then tornado. Ooh, maybe maybe there's gonna
be a tsunami in New Jersey tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
It wouldn't surprise me. There were two tornadoes here in
California today or yesterday, two of them, two of them
one in a place cho in near in Santa Cruz
and one in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
And I'm I'm willing to bet that that's not typical
behavior for the Bay Area.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Not at all, not at all.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, we had this year alone, we had seven tornadoes.
There were three that touched down in one day and
then four spread out over a week. And we never
have tornadoes here ever, and just out of nowhere, seven
fucking tornadoes.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
That's terrifying. All right, Well, let's let's break this down
real simple. We're gonna start with the classic Dick Tracy method,
and we're going to do the who would win, where, how,
and why? Who? It's it's it's all of it's in America.
But where did these sightings start?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Mike, Well, this particular wave, are you saying yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
And that's one thing we'll cover too. This is not
the first time something like this has happened, maybe to
this extent now, but.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. This is a repeat from a
few years ago. But this this started November eighteenth, New Jersey,
and it started out it didn't really pick up much
steam until like last week, Like the beginning of last
week is when it really started ramping up. For a while,
it was just thought maybe people were misidentifying things. But yeah,

(03:10):
it started in November eighteenth, and it seems to there
doesn't seem to be an end in sight, and these
reports just keep getting weirder and weirder. Man Like, it
started out just as basically reports of sightings of weird
lights in the sky. And I remember at first there

(03:34):
was I'm not really active on Twitter anymore, but I
still like monitor things on Twitter, like in terms of
things that are going on, and I kept seeing UAPs trending.
So whenever it trends, I click on it, and usually
it's some bullshit about hey, there's another press conference with
the with fucking Congress and nothing's gonna come out, and

(03:55):
you know, that's typically what it is, or some fucking
bullshit a video, So you know, I clicked on it,
and then I started seeing this stuff about drones and
a lot of it seemed like these sightings were overlapping,
and even now, like if you were to fucking go
on and just do hashtag UAP, the majority of the

(04:18):
stuff that's going to be coming up is going to
be about these drones.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Let me cut in right there, because like I remember
when this first started back in November, and I talked
to you about them, and it was just weird at first.
So when did this turn into drones? Why is everybody
assuming these are drones? I mean, drones are loud, you
can hear them. Some of these things that they're calling
drones now are reported to be the size of cars

(04:43):
and even bigger from what you're telling me. But when
was it instantly drones? I mean like people just called
them lights for the first week.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, I think people were speculating it with drones, but
a lot of them have lights on them that would
follow that followed the FAA regulations. So there's a blinking
red light, a blinking green light, and then a white
light and these things. They The weird thing is that
they look like they're following the regulations, but they look

(05:15):
fucking weird. They look almost like some of them really do,
like some of the videos I've seen really do almost
look like UFOs if it wasn't for the blinking red
and green light, like just the way the lights are
arranged like it just it looks if you were seeing that,

(05:35):
you wouldn't think it was a plane. Like it doesn't
look like a plane. It looks like something else. And
then there there's one, uh one clip that I saw
where it actually looks like a plane, but like the
the arrangement of lights is weird, like not a normal plane.
Like it's got a red light in the middle, and

(05:57):
then they're at the edge of each wing is a
white light, and then there's two white lights above the
red light and two white lights below the red light,
and it's it looks like a plane, but it was
flying really low and it was, you know, considerably smaller
than a regular plane. Then there were there in addition

(06:19):
to these lights, there's also reports of helicopters that are
that are flying low in the sky with spotlights on.
And then there's I saw a report from I believe
he was an off duty police officer who saw a
what he reported as a forty foot drone and he

(06:42):
called it a drone, but he said it was forty
feet in diameter.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Okay, do you think this is a fucking term that's
just getting thrown all out, thrown around a little bit
too loosely here. Drone I mean are they I mean disease?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, because because who I mean really, who's to say
that it's even a drone? And and not not to
jump to aliens immediately, but but why couldn't this be
experimental aircraft? Why does it have to be a drone?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Okay, let's see that's a great question to where this
let led us to pay attention and whatever it seems
to have picked up on the Internet and the media
and all that stuff. We had kicked around the idea
of these things. We definitely noticed them. But you had
texted me the other day about some congressmen saying something
about a mothership. Can you can you talk about that happening?

(07:31):
Because this is where it all kind of started. Hey
with Stephanie, I see it. I see you in the chat.
Let's see you in the chat. I feel like a
Twitch streamer.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, what's up chat?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, that's that's us now, man, it's not it's really
not put what's up chat? Anyway?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay, So yes, break down this Congress.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I got completely if there. What was
the question that you asked?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
So, yeah, this this, uh, this was noticed by us.
But things really picked up when you you texted me
about this congressman making a statement that include the words
of mothership and and all that shit. So can you
start with that, Like as far as what this dude said.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, so so this was a new Jersey, uh congressman.
But he he comes out and this was this was
I think early last week, and for for one, he
was saying that these things need to be shot down.
And I remember the I believe it was on Fox
News and the the host of Fox News was like, well,

(08:43):
we don't know what they are. What if we shoot
them down and they're nuclear and they blow things up,
which I mean is a real danger. And that's allegedly
the reason they didn't shoot down the uh that Chinese
spy balloon that was seen floating around.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Right, which we'll get into a little bit more. I've
got I've got some questions for you about that.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
But what he was saying was that there was a
a military a high ranking military official who he would
not name because he was speaking under the condition of anonymity.
But but he was saying that a high ranking military
official had told him that these drones were from Iran

(09:29):
and that there was an Iranian mother ship that was
just kind of parked off the coast of of or
the East coast and somewhere off in the Atlantic Ocean
and was sending out these drones and so he was
trying to to he was saying, we need to shoot
him down, and it's fucking it's hilarious. And then later

(09:53):
that day, after that arid on Fox News, the Pentagon
came out to say that they were not on Iran
and that they also were not US drones and they
don't pose any sort of threat allegedly, but we don't
know what they are or where they are, or where

(10:13):
they're coming from or where they're landing, and so how
can they how can they say that it's not a threat.
They even restricted areas of airspace in New Jersey and
these things are flying within that restricted airspace.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Whoa and that early huh? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
So what well, no, not not early on, but at
this point okay, okay, there has there's been restricted airspace.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay, so at this point when when this they say
that they don't know where it's coming from, but it's
not Irans, it's not ours. What are you thinking at
this point after seeing what There was not that much
footage at this point, but there is there's some going around.
What were you thinking, did you automatically assume drone?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well, the only reason I'm assuming drone is because people
keep saying that they're drones. But I mean, but some
of them are like smart they people have been able
to see them, so like they're able to like that
vet looks that looks like a drone. But then there's
the there's multiple different things that seem to be going
on in the sky, like different or different. It's not

(11:17):
all uniform what's being reported. And even if you if
you look at the videos that have been posted, like
there's there's some crazy shit, man, Like, there's things that
look like planes. There's things that look like helicopters. And
it's not to say that they're not planes and they're
not helicopters, but they just look kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Have you seen that clip of the one that doesn't
have any lights on and it's being backlit.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
By the one that's like at sunset, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
It looks like a fucking Star Wars ship.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
It does, and it's and it's just filmed during the
uh film, during the the the Twilight Hour, the you
know that one. I don't know, man, that looks too
good to be true. I don't I don't know if
that's real. Yeah, that's I mean, And that's the problem.
That's the biggest problem here is that there's so many

(12:05):
videos out there that are being purported as drones. There's
videos of drones being shot down. I saw one video
of it looked like a drone getting shot down and
there's like fire coming out of it and you see
it fall like below the horizon. But it was a
video that was posted online like over a year ago,
but now it's being attributed to New Jersey. Just like

(12:28):
that happens a lot, and it sucks because it really
muddies the waters. And then you've got this shit for
like the AI making videos or people using video editing
software to turn a normal light into something spooky.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Now, right in my notes here, I have the amount
of bullshit videos that's coming out, you know, I mean
so early in this when there's something this strange happening,
the amount of fake shit that's come out is just
a Yeah, it's just they're putting right they're putting sounds
from like the movie Signs and clips and expecting people

(13:06):
to buy it, and like if you read the comments,
people are because they're not old enough to remember the
movie fucking Signs.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, I remember watching Signs and like that part
were where they were broadcasting on the news about those
lights that were in the sky that weren't like that.
Just the way that it was done in that movie
just made it seem like it was so real.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, that movie was terrifying watching it for the first time.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I really liked that movie a lot. But there's so
much bullshit that's going on with this though, Like like
there's a video, for for instance, there's a lot of
these quote unquote door doorbell cam videos that's picking up
these things, Like there's this one that's saying that their
doorcam is on motion detection, and apparently motion detection picks

(13:55):
up things hundreds of feet in the sky, like come on,
and uh, it shows these these two these two fixed
lights are not blinking or anything or just these round
fixed lights cruising through the clouds and leaving like almost
a wake. But it's that grainy black and white footage,
just as allegedly recorded on December eighth, but I don't

(14:19):
know that that looks fishy to me. And then I
saw another one that was like a street view from
from a ring camera, but it was like a fish
eye lens, and you see these three lights going overhead,
like really low disc shaped lights, and it's clearly bullshit,
like it's it's not a real video. And that's that's

(14:41):
the annoying thing, because there's so much crazy shit that
is out there and it's just being all this bullshit
is being recorded and it's muddying the waters.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, and it's just shocking how fast it happened with
just such obvious bullshit. And that's one thing I wanted
to talk to you about as well, is the how
the descriptions and the videos of wild variation of different
crafts here. And I don't know anything about drones, but
I've seen pictures of some pretty big fucking drones the

(15:13):
size of small cars, and chat me, Miss Lisa is
saying combat drones are huge with fixed wings, and she's
got a link here, and if you check that out,
I mean, these things are big. So I mean, do
you think people are just saying drone because they it's
the most easiest comfortable thing, or it's the most likely.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Thing, probably because it's it's the most likely thing. And
like I said, they've got lights that are that are
in compliance with FAA regulations, so it's clearly not aliens
unless aliens are like, oh shit, we're entering US airspace.
Time to turn on the blinking right in green lights. Okay,

(15:51):
so let's let's pick up.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Where after the Congress said that it's not from Iran,
it's not ours, what was the next thing they said?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
And then the penn the Pentagon did their press conference
saying that it wasn't from Iran and it's not our drones,
but we don't know where they're coming from. But we
know that they're not foreign drones, but they don't pose
a threat to us. But again we don't know what
they are. And so to me like having too, Like

(16:21):
I understand the Pentagon is a completely different part of government,
but you've got two people that are working within the
government saying two very different things. And it kind of
reminds me of the the Roswell Report where immediately they say, hey,

(16:41):
it was a flying saucer and then the next day
they're like, nah, it was a weather balloon. And then
it was a radar balloon, you know, like it's uh
to me, it's it's in the government intentionally muddying the
waters on what's going on, and the fact the fact
that they're able to fly in restricted Arizone, they're able

(17:06):
to fly near military bases, and nobody is acting on
it speaks volumes. If that was if that was a
civilian drone pilot who was flying their fucking bullshit little
quad copter over a military base, that dude would be
in deep fucking shit, like immediately. And they're just letting

(17:28):
these these things fly William Nilliam all around the fucking state,
over military bases or restricted airspace, over fucking urban areas,
and nobody does anything about it. It's fine, So.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Let's call these things drones. I mean, we all watched
the quote Chinese weather balloon thing happen and they let
it fly around for three days. Do you think that
was a test to see the American government's reaction to
something that's completely foreign and unknown to them just fly
around the US.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Well, they didn't want to shoot it down because they
didn't want it to potentially land on civilian areas and
cause damage or hurt somebody, because apparently the United States
government gives a shit about the people that live here.
But you know, I think it's more they were probably
worried that if it fell near a civilian area, that

(18:27):
civilians would find this thing and be like, oh my god,
now we've got all these secrets. That's more likely why
they didn't want to shoot it down over a civilian area.
But h I mean, that could be the case here too.
Maybe they really don't know when they're just trying to
be act all cool. But you'd think if it was

(18:48):
something they didn't know about, especially with the proximity to
the Air Force base, that they would scramble jets to
try to intercept these. But instead we're getting reports of
helicopters that are flying low with searchlights on.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, so let's just call them drones. Let's say they're
hours even though they're saying they're not. I mean, why
such a braze and test of something, And it's like,
it's not like they haven't done that before. There's a
few years ago about that one weird rocket they shot
over California near Halloween that everybody crapped their pants about. Remember,

(19:27):
we compared it to the one that was in Sweden
that they shot that rocket at night time and that
weird like wavy aura after it. It was the same,
you know, the same footage. But why is this? Is
this a trauma based mind control experiment? Why do this?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well? I mean it could be a number of different things.
Do you remember a few days ago I sent you
those screenshots that were deleted from Facebook and Reddit?

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yes, sir, I still got them.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah. So this this guy was who is part of
like a drone hobbyist group on Facebook, was talking about
what's going on here? I think this was on Tuesday,
which would have been what Monday or Tuesday, which would

(20:17):
have been the eleventh or the twelfth, I think right, probably, No, no,
ninth or tenth, My bad, Yeah, thank you, thank you.
It was the tenth. Yes. So they were posted this
Facebook group and it was taken down by Facebook, and
then they posted the screenshots from the group to Reddit

(20:38):
and then read it took it down for some reason.
But the person in there was what he was trying
to do is get this group to because they're drone
hobbyists of varying degrees, they were going to play citizen
detective and try to figure out what was going on,
and he says he's claiming that they're military drones one

(21:04):
hundred percent. And this particular person, his name is Dale Lasher.
He he has a commercial drone license and whenever, whenever
he has his drone above fifty feet in the air,
they're able to assign a unique signature to it and
track it on radar. And then once it goes below

(21:26):
fifty feet, they're not able to track it anymore. But
at fifty feet and above it's trackable by radar. Wow.
While this mystery was going on, he was talking to
one of his friends who's in the military, who's a
drone pilot, and he said that he's also one hundred
percent positive these are military drones. And he said they

(21:47):
would only be used in this sort of situation like this,
in this access if there was a serious reason. And
as an example, he said, if a dirty bomb where
to fall or get dropped, or if they were tracking
WMDs or terrorists things like that.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
You don't say, I that's funny, you say that. I
got a message from a friend of ours in Europe
that said the word over there is is that these
are type of nuclear sniffing drones. Because there's something dirty
in the wild.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah. Well that he goes on to say that he
knows of two families that are both military families that
left the state to go somewhere else whoa and the
both families, the husband in the family is active military
who has been deployed, and once it started happening, his

(22:47):
family's left.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yikes.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, it's it's it's weird, man, It's it's fucking weird.
But they were they were trying to get a group
together to get radiation detectors on their drones so that
they could get their own drones and start figuring out
if there's anything radioactive that is going on out there.

(23:14):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
You had mentioned that civilians were trying to fly their
drones towards these things and their batteries were being depleted
and falling out of the sky.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah. Yeah, So there's a lot of weird stuff that's
going on with these drones now, and I'm wondering if
maybe there's some sort of EMP field on them, like
an outward facing field, because there's civilian because you know,

(23:44):
people aren't getting answers, so civilians have started trying to
send their own drones up to intercept them, and there
have been a number of reports that have said they
have they've had a full battery, they go up and
within three and it's their batteries dead. It it doesn't
make sense. There been people that'll that have reported drones

(24:08):
hovering over their house and their lights will start to flicker.
There have been people that have said the drone has
flown over their car and their car kind of sputters.
And there have been reports of digital clocks being changed
due to a drone hovering over the house like it's

(24:28):
it's fucking wild man. Wow.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, I don't see. I don't see how they don't
expect to induce panic by doing shit like that if
it's the government controlling these things.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, I I don't. I've so Here's here's another weird thing.
Like like I said earlier, this this this particular sort
of incident happened before in same same time or well
same time frame. Actually it started in Nova, remember twenty nineteen,

(25:02):
and lasted through January twenty twenty, and this was in
Colorado and western Nebraska. But there were as many The
most seen at one time was nineteen drones that were
flying in grid formations and they seemed to have a
scheduled time. They would fly between six and ten PM.

(25:26):
The FAA investigated it, the FBI investigated, local law enforcement
investigated it, but as of yet there has not been
It hasn't been solved. But these drones were mostly said
to be smaller inside in size, about six feet in diameter.

(25:49):
They would typically fly in smaller groups, usually of six
to ten, but they at most there was nineteen at
one time.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, I was surprised to hear of something so similar
to what's happening now, And funny enough, I'll keep people's
names out of it because I don't know if they
want their names all over the place. We have a
buddy in New York who sent me some footage of
what's happening over there, and it's weird to see something
that's the same as all these viral little videos that's

(26:20):
going around. Because it's the same thing. It's scary to
see that it's coming from somebody that you know and trust.
And he sent me a video that he recorded from
twenty seventeen, and that video is the exact same thing
of what's happening now.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, and then it's now being reported in England December eleventh,
there was Drone's videotape flying over Barkstell Air Force Base
in the UK, so I'm and the sightings in North
Carolina were also seen around an Air Force bace, so

(26:55):
it makes sense, you know. I mean, these things are
flying over fucking air force baces. So either they're they're
aliens and they're able to basically run the air or
they're our own and I'm going to go with their hours.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Well, see that made me think of the who controls
our Airspace episode we did. They don't when they when
they are videos of things that look like traditional UFOs
and stuff like that and they fly over air force
bases and shit like that, it's an obvious display that
they don't control the airspace and they can't do anything

(27:34):
when it's these UFOs or UAPs. So it kind of
that's the kind of what they're doing now. They're just
not doing anything about it, so it kind of can
go either way in my opinion. I mean, they've scrambled
jets against UFOs and they just ditch them and take off.
It's not like they can do anything about it when
it is just regular traditional UFOs.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah. Yeah, And I mean we've we've seen UFO videos
like older videos where the UFO seems to be shape
shifting almost. So, I guess if you want to go
the alien route, you could say, well, these things are
our actual UFOs. They're just mimicking human craft and that's

(28:15):
why they look so weird. And there's a lot of
talk of this being like soft disclosure from the aliens themselves,
like hey, look it out. Weird we are. We're we're
doing weird shit over New Jersey. Oh my god, and
you know it. I don't think that's likely, but sure,
if you want to make that argument, these are shape

(28:37):
shifting UFOs and they're out there trying to prove their
existence by disguising themselves as human aircraft. Maybe, I don't know,
it doesn't make sense when you when you when you
get into that, but but they could. It could be
part of this this false flag invasion thing.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Right, the one you've been talking about for all long time.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I mean yes, yeah, And the fact that I've been
talking about it and there's there's dozens of episodes of
me talking about this. So when I say I told
you so, you can't just be like, oh, looking fucking
Johnny come lately. No, No, motherfucker. I've been saying that
from the get go, and I'm I mean, think about

(29:23):
think about how long this thing is. But like if
if we talk about the the military abduction scenario, where
where the military or some shadow government entity that has
ties it. I don't know if it's people that have
ties with the military that are behind the abduction scenario.

(29:47):
And then you look at the fact that the military
has had all these secret UFO program going on, and
now we're getting the what I would call soft disclosure
or with these witnesses now coming before Congress and making
all these claims and discussing the fact that these things

(30:08):
are real and military pilots don't know what the fuck
they are. I think that's kind of like the beginning
of disclosure scenario. But we've got these all these things
that are like the idea of an alien abduction is

(30:29):
like ingrained in pop culture now, like everybody knows what
an alien abduction scenario entails, and you know, they make
jokes about taking one up the pooper and all that shit.
But the I think that's where it all starts, is
making a joke out of it. Because I've said so
many times how pissed off. It makes me when the

(30:50):
news would always play the X Files theme whenever they're
talking about UFOs, and now they talk about UFOs in
a serious way. We're not getting the bull shit, uh
half smiles and smirks and X Files theme music and shit,
now it's being taken seriously. So I think to present

(31:12):
it as a joke first, to make the to make
it seem more palatable, probably, and then slowly start talking
about the fact that it might be real. But with
all of that, if you now start you know that
you've got the military, You've got respected members of the

(31:33):
military talking about these things being real, and now you've
got the the media taking it seriously all of a sudden,
and the government seriously listening to reports of these now
and now we've got these mystery drones. Like it just
seems like the stage is being set for something bigger.

(31:54):
And maybe maybe I'm being conspiratorial. I likely am. It's
probably just you know, being conspiracy minded and all that shit,
But it really seems like there's a lot more going on.
Like even if we take because like I said, obviously
this is our stuff, this is this is ours, but

(32:15):
why are they why are they beating her on the bush.
Why don't they just say yeah, it's ours and call
it a day. And if they're testing experimental craft, there's
places they could go to test this craft that it
wouldn't be seen by more than like three people. But

(32:36):
they're doing it over states.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, we've talked about that before. It's weird that they're
doing it over states. And like I said, it's gonna
cause panic and disruption. Obviously, clearly it's going to do that.
I was gonna ask you, do you find it strange
that this is happening what two three weeks after the
latest UAP hearing and basically right after the US elections.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I I don't know. I don't know if that's necessarily
the case. I don't want to say that the elections
have anything to do with it.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
No, maybe just a distraction basically.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
No, if anything, I think they would have done it before.
Now that it's over, what's what's the point.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I'm kind of waiting for Trump to pop up and
be like, yes, this is the space Force, bro, this
is what.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I Well, that's I have heard because and that's another
thing that's really hard is you've got all these people
now saying like, oh, I want to remain anonymous, but
I work for I work for the government, or i'm
I'm a major in the military, but I won't give

(33:43):
my my name. But you know, just bullshit like that.
But I did hear someone. I read someone posting in
a thread that said that they were military and that
they that this was a space Force experiment and it's
it's being run out of Picatinny Air Air Force Base.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Hmm. Yeah. I got a message from somebody that I
had no idea. I'll leave them nameless, but they told
me they were a former drone pilot, and they said
that we have weapons that can take these things down. Again,
you know, maybe they don't want it to crash in
front or on houses and shit like that, but having
these things like much like that the quote Chinese weather balloon,

(34:28):
spy balloon, whatever you want to call it, these were
already places where they could have taken these things down safely,
right Well, I.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Mean a lot of these sightings are are being seen
over populated areas, so you wouldn't be able to safely
take it down over populated area. But again, if this
was something that was posing a legitimate threat that they
were that the military thought would be you know, a

(34:56):
greater threat than crashing on a house. They would shoot
that fucker down in the second mm hm, but nobody is.
Nobody's shooting them down. And and again that that in
and of itself speaks volumes. The fact that they're not
doing anything about it means they know exactly what it
is and they're that's why they're not doing anything. They're

(35:19):
just not admitting to it.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
M So, why why do you think they won't just
say it's ours? Like why have they already denied that when.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I mean for the same reason I think it's it's
they're setting the stage for something like either either it's
going to be an alien invasion or there it's a
flex of power to see what the citizens will do,
and we're not doing anything or we can't do anything,
you know, we're powerless against it. I don't really want

(35:48):
to go down that road, like the whole tyrannical government
is gonna turn us into slaves sort of thing, Like right,
I don't want to go down that that conspiracy rabbit hole,
but it does. It seems like it's a test to
see what the reaction will be and what they can
get away with, what the endgame is I don't know.

(36:11):
I mean, I'm I've been predicting the fake alien invasion,
but maybe it's because I'm a fucking uf ow nerd
that that could be very possible, you know, that could
be the reason why I'm that's where my head's at.
But it just seems like that's that's where things are
leading to.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Hmmm. I didn't assume aliens either. I went with the
drone thing what's being described in their sizes, like those
things already exist. Plus it's kind of like the next
gradual step in that area is technology, right, and it's
just gonna be that big. They're gonna look that fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah. So so go back to the the stealth bomber,
and remember when they were they were flying that thing
all over the place and it was being by so
many different people and then nothing, and then in the
nineties they're like, hey, it was us. It was us.

(37:08):
It was the stealth Bomber. That's that's what you guys
were seeing the whole time. And then they turned it
into a fucking fruit snack and it was delicious. I
don't know if anybody I can't even remember what they're called.
They're fruit snacks that were shaped like different fighter planes,
and they had one for the stealth bomber. It was awesome.
It was dark purple.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
It was rare that you got a stealth bomber.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah. Yeah. It was like the Great White Shark and
shark bites.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
M hmm, my god, I want shark bites now and
they don't exist.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
The dude, I would love some shark bites right now.
Why can't they make those again?

Speaker 1 (37:43):
No, they're just gonna make pac Band movies and redo
the Ghostbusters for the fifth time.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Oh sweet, Maybe this time it'll work.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
No, it won't.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah. So, I mean really, at the end of the day,
it's mass hysteria and swamp ca and that's that's all
there is to it.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, you said that. Later on, the government made another
statement that there are no drones and it's mass hysteria.
Is that true? Is that? Is that? Did they really
say that?

Speaker 2 (38:12):
No? No, not no, that not really. I mean they
they basically said they're not. Yes, thunder jets, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
The best way to go, Miss Lisa.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
And yeah, it was the saddest Ghostbusters discussion ever. So sad.
What the fuck was I saying? God damn it. I got.
I got very excited by the thunder jets. I don't
know how much of this side ship we're leaving in,
but if any of this is left, it just just
so people that aren't here to know we're doing this

(38:48):
live and we're reacting to people in the chat.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah seeah, we should have mentioned that.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, this this is kind of a test run with
a with a live show, and so in the future,
well we'll try to announce it well in advance so
people can can hop on if they want not in hour. Also,
you know, for for anybody who's not a patron, join

(39:14):
Patreon and you'll you'll find out about that stuff, you know,
on our Patreon stuff, so to do that. But I'm
so good at promotion, I'm like the best, Hire me
to be your marketing person.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Gay, So where where are we now? Where are we
at right now? With these things? They're just I mean,
people are shooting out them from what I'm seeing.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Well, so there was a report on Friday that was
on the news about a crash and the police had
shut down the area where it was where this thing crashed,
but apparently there was nothing there, so you know, typical
typical government crash. Like bullshit, nothing to see here.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Right, that's weird, dude? Are they? Are they testing crash
recovery tactics and populated areas?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah? I don't know, but I I mentioned earlier that
I saw a video and I anyone who who's if
anyone here has seen it in the in the chat,
let me know. But it looks like a burning fireball
that's just kind of falling from the sky. But it
looks like it has wings though, right, Yeah, but that's

(40:28):
not even a new video, but it's being said that
that was a new Jersey drone. Wow.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Okay, yeah, I saw that one. I used it in
the video to advertise our live show here. That one's
not from or not recent anyway.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
From I think like a year ago or something.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Oh wow, okay, hmmm yeah. So have you seen any
news reports like the footage? Are they? Is what the
news showing much different from what's on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I mean, I've seen a lot of news clips. I
don't have like any any sort of TV thing, so
I don't really watch the news, but I've seen a
lot of clips from news shows, like from Fox News,
from CNN, which I mean, both of those are are
laughable to call news. But you know it's establishment news,
We'll say. And yeah, they've been covering it as though

(41:20):
it's a genuine mystery.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Wow, dude, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
And there and their report like the congressman that said
that it was Iranian ships that was on Fox News.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, when you sent that text, I mean like what
I asked you instantly, what does he mean? Mothership? Is
he talking about like a warship or a spaceship? And
you said he didn't elaborate on that, and he hasn't
said anything since.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Uh, I not I he may have. I don't know.
I haven't seen anything else with him. It was just
the he did a couple interviews on Monday or Tuesday
and said this. I don't I don't know, but I've
seen there's the Uh what's his title? He's claiming to

(42:08):
be a commanding officer. I don't know what his actual
rank is, but he's a commanding officer in the New
Jersey Coast Guard. And he told Representative Chris Smith that
he runs a forty seven foot ship for the Coast Guard.
And he said that his ship was followed at different
points in time by between twelve and thirty drones and

(42:31):
the drones followed right behind his craft.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Do you think that them not taking action against shit
like this and shit like you know, all these things
just obviously really being there and them following our coast guard,
them not acting on that kind of hints towards it
is from maybe an adversary. You know, they're not shooting
these down, not to start a war or something like that.

(42:56):
I mean, we have the right to shoot them down
if they're just fucking flying over our shit.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
You'd think so, right. I had. I had a really
creepy experience with a drone over the summer. I was
out in my backyard just.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
You know, sunbathing, gardening things.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yes, topless sunbathing, getting sunburned on my nipples.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Now we know why the drone was there.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Dude, Yeah, check it out, my sweet tits. But I
was just just out back gardening and I hear this
buzzing sound. I'm like, what the fuck is that? And
I look up and there's a drone flying over my
house like I would say, maybe like sixty seventy feet

(43:40):
in the air, and it was flying just like hovering
over my house. And as soon as I looked up
at it, it took off. So it was definitely. It
was definitely watching me, and as soon as I noticed it, it
flew away. I'm like, what the fuck get out of here,
you son of a bitch. God, damn it, God, it's
the Yeah, I I did not like that at all.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, what a weird ull like almost and like actual
invasional privacy. That's weird.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, yeah, super creepy and like I mean it didn't
do anything obviously because it was a personal drone, like
small little drone, but it's just it's weird. Man, Like
you're hovering over my house watching me do yard work,
and when I notice you, you take off, Like why
don't you use your drone and like bring me a
water or something. Like I've I've been to two concerts

(44:33):
before and I've seen people outside the gate, like out
you know, outdoor concerts and I and I've seen people
outside the gate that'll have a drone and they'll like
fly it in and fly it over the show and everything,
and that's you know, that's fine, that's cool. I don't
care about that. But if you're you're filming me doing
yard work, like that's really fucking creepy and I don't

(44:55):
enjoy that at all.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
My MIC's got a long distance ad bar.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, it happened to my partner too. She was getting
out of work and her she's got a client that
works or that lives up in the hills, and we've
got a wind farm that's somewhat close to us, within
like ten miles, and her client lives right across the
street from one of one of the one of the windmills.

(45:25):
And she got out and she said she heard this
really loud noise and all of a sudden she looks
up and there's a drone. She said. It was maybe
twenty feet away from her, just watching her.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
WHOA, that is weird.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, And then as she was leaving, the drone took off,
and then she was driving down and there was a
dude who had this old pickup truck parked in a
cornfield and he was the drone controller, just sitting in
the middle of a cornfield creeping on people. Yeah, so

(46:00):
fucking creepy man.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
That is creepy, dude, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Especially because they live like in the middle of nowhere,
you know. And he's like, what's he doing creeping in
a fucking cornfield, going that close to people's houses with
his drone? Yeah, you know that seems a little nefarious
to me.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, for sure. Oh, I don't know. If I would
have reported that, I would have been like it. It
would have been cool if it was a couple of
dudes standing on the corner, you know. But it's a
guy parked in the middle of a cornfield.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't like it. I don't
like where we're at in this fucking world, man, I
don't appreciate any of it. So have you seen someone
someone online? And I don't know how much of it
you've seen, but if someone posted a video of someone
trying to fly a drone over area fifty one, No,

(46:53):
and as soon as they got to the perimeter, within
three seconds, it was shot.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Down, shot down with a bullet, No.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Just dropped like they were able to bring it down.
So that gives credence to what you were saying about
your drone pilot friend who said they could basically use
like a blast of light or a laser or something.
But yeah, it's fucking they can they do that? But
these things have been flying over other military bases. Fuck

(47:25):
out of here, man.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Right right? So yeah, I mean it's it's clearly our
own stuff. The government's not bashful and not telling the
truth and denying them. They did it pretty quick to
say it wasn't theirs. But I mean, how long till
they scramble a jet? How long till one crashes into
a fucking mall? What's next? Do you think?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
What I think is next is that they're going to
continue for another few weeks, then they disappear and everybody
forgets about it. Up for UFO nerds.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Hmmm, Oh, Miss Lisa is betting on one gets shot
down by a civilian. I mean that's bound to happen,
and that's so it's so dangerous.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, but that's assuming one that they're not watching somebody.
You know, if the drone is flying over people, it's
going to be watching the people. And I'm sure that
these things are not little quad copters that can be
taken down by a rifle. It's not. You can't get

(48:32):
bazookas and RPGs in in New Jersey. So this isn't Florida.
If it was Florida, i'd say, yeah, someone will figure
it out, yeah, or yeah, or Texas right yeah, yeah,
And I mean there's we'll see if there's any response
around New Year and you know with people lighting off fireworks,

(48:56):
see what happens there.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Right, hmmm, video of people shooting fireworks at them?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, yeah, but that I mean, fireworks can only go
so high. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Do you think that that's when the government will say
that it's theirs, is when somebody shoots one down and
they fucking start arresting people.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
No, well, that's going to be the thing. If someone
shoots it down, there's going to be an immediate response
to that, and that person will probably get arrested and
uh disappeared. And then what they'll say is is this
thing crashed and it killed a civilian when it crashed,

(49:39):
And you know what really happened was a civilian shot
it down and then men in black came over and
put a couple rounds in his face and called it
a day. God forbid that there were people there that'd
blow up the fucking house and be like, oh my god,
it crashed on the house of the house, blew up.
Oh my god, it's so tragic. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
No, it'll be another meth lab, dude, it'll be another
cast line.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, or who knows, maybe these things are rigged a
self destruct so if it gets taken down, it does
explode and takes anybody out with it, so that they
can say that this thing crashed and blew up a civilian. Clearly,
whoever's behind this is an enemy of the United States
of America and hates freedom and probably is also somehow

(50:26):
a socialist and a fascist at once.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
If that's what they If that's their endgame here, why
not just start off with we don't know what these are.
I mean, they're causing panic anyway. Why not just say
we don't know, like this might be an enemy. We're
on high alert. We're doing what we're supposed to do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, So to answer the question from chat, they typically
run on radio frequencies. There is a state trooper unit
in New Jersey that specializes in drone activity, like they
investigate legal drone activity. They've got their own fleet of

(51:04):
drones and everything. And they said they weren't able to
detect the frequency that these drones were operating on.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
They can't detect them. No, whoa, they haven't.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Been able to detect the frequency.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, I thought of that picture in chat. They said,
what if all this is just a bunch of a
whole bunch of people got bored and decided to three
print some drones and screw with people. I mean, the
monolith thing, it was shocking that so many people coordinated
themselves that well to put up so many fake monoliths.
We can go all the way back to the weird
sounds from the sky, like the trumpets. Do you think

(51:40):
this could just be a new level gag?

Speaker 2 (51:43):
It could be, But some of these drones are reportedly
way too big. But I suppose if you were to
string a bunch of drones together, you could do all
sorts of crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah. People can fabricate almost fucking anything on their own, now, dude,
I mean they can make one the size of the car.
There's people who make them that they can fly themselves
on fucking YouTube in their backyard, right.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
But it's also like like the the people that blame
the the Phoenix lights on a bunch of by wing
planes and wrapped in Christmas lights, And yeah, it's I mean,
it's anything's possible. And but I think too, if it
was just Board's civilians, they would have been found out

(52:26):
by now and they likely would have been arrested. I
don't I don't think that that's the case here. I
feel like this is this is the government for sure,
and that's why no one's getting arrested. That's why no
one's getting no one's calling attention to it. They're just
kind of they're just doing the ignore thing. We don't

(52:47):
know what it is. We don't know what it is.
We don't and then it's gonna end in January and
that's gonna be it. You're not going to hear about
it again. Definitely a distraction mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, that's what I just noticed. The timing of everything.
My first thing that came in my mind is distraction
just from everything that's going on in this country anyway
and around the world. You know, we'll see hopefully it's
just the US testing weird new drones or something like that.
Hopefully it's not an enemy of the United States. That

(53:18):
would be weird that they get to just fly around.
I mean, those things can collect information rather quick, you know,
if it is a foreign military's drone system or whatever,
they're just sucking up information every hour that takes by.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, it's it's gonna it'll be another one of those things.
We're not going to get answers to what it is,
and then we're all going to get attacked by fake
aliens and get so many, so many abjects crammed in
our rectum. So I guess learn to relax.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I don't know, man, Yeah, we'll have to see, you know,
Project Bluebeam. Possibly it could be the new the new
version of Project Bluebeam, the latest updated version.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah. Well that's the thing, because Project Bluebeam has been
out there in the conspiracy world for a while and
it's likely going by a different name now. But I
think all of this disclosure stuff is is kind of
leading towards that we're gonna be seeing a false flag
alien attack at some point, whether it's here or overseas,

(54:36):
it's it's gonna happen. It's gonna get blamed on aliens,
and then you know, we're we're basically screwed at that point, because,
as we all know, a person can be smart, but
people are fucking idiots, and that you get the government
or the media telling people, hey, listen, this this isn't

(54:58):
a this isn't an attack by a human on humans.
This is an attack by aliens, and they're like, oh,
the news.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Told me its aliens. That I believe that it's aliens.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
And then you're gonna have probably fifty to sixty percent
of the public believing that it's actually aliens, and then
you're gonna have like a bunch of the ufone nerds
thinking it's aliens, and it's gonna end up being the
majority of the people think it's aliens, and the people
that are saying it's not aliens are going to be

(55:30):
the conspiracy theorists. Ironically, like it's going to completely switch around,
where if you're not a believer, you're the conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah. I found it interesting howeveryone's like it's the government
before they said aliens. I was like, no, no, let's
make it fun its aliens. Nope, they just said it's
fucking the government right off the bat.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Well, yeah, it's clearly the government. I mean the fact
that the government is allowing it to happen, they're not
providing any answers, they're not actively investigating that, not trying
to shoot things down. It's it's one the government and
what they're endgame is I don't know, but it's gonna
stop in January and we're not gonna hear anything about it.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, even if something
as gnarly and as huge as this it is something
as crazy as this, I think it's just going to disappear,
which is fucking absolutely insane. It's conditioning. I think it's
a little bit of fear based trauma, mind control, a
little bit of conditioning. You know, no big deal. They'll
they'll get over it. When it happens to again, people

(56:32):
will take out their cell phones and be like, Oh,
it's the things.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah, here we go again.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, until they say it's the Space Force drones that
are scanning the skies for interstellar threats and.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Not Yeah, what what it is? It's a test run
on Hunter Killers and we're all fucking doomed. Yeah, sky
Night is real and Terminator was a warning that it
wasn't a piece of fiction. So here's to a new
judgment day. Everyone.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
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