January 10, 2025 • 43 mins
This week we dug into the bag of old Blue Book cases and dug out an oldie but a goodie. With some of the more outlandish drone reports that have been coming out of New Jersey, we noticed that there were some similarities to things that happened in Levelland, Texas in 1957. Is it possible that the Levelland events were a test run for what we are seeing in NJ? Who, or WHAT is behind this nonsense?
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's up everybody, Thanks for listening to the what Cast.
We hope you have to get holiday no matter what
you uh celebrate, We hope it was good.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And safe, safe from the Crampus. Yeah, I hope none
of your children got carted away and eaten by the
by the Crampus. It's a worry every year we sit here,
Mike and I just kids are fucking assholes, so you
know it's bound to happen to somebody.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We wait for the email patiently while we talk on
Skype and not record in dark rooms and just like
put our fingers together like a bad guy and other
fingers roll open and clothes waiting for the email. My
kid gone.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So if you're if your child was taken by the Crampis,
please let us know and we'll give you a shout
out on the show and Mattel will make you a
Crampis T shirt to commemorate, right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah. I just I just drew a new Crampus for
Christmas and I'll put that on a shirt for you.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, and it'll say my my child was stolen by
the Crampus and all I got was this crummy T
shirt and that's and that's what you can have as
as a little bit of solace after your children get
taken to the Crampus cave.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I just let us know their name and on the
back we'll put Missia blank whoever it is, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, yeah, or we could just put miss you what's
your face? Miss you so and so?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right, So, yeah, we'll start off with you asked
me before we started recording. Uh, yeah, you said you
hadn't been paying attention to the drone stuff since we
talked about it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, I fell down that rabbit hole, did the show,
and then like promptly stopped looking into it at all.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, I have to point out that your prediction is correct. Again,
it's been a week. Nobody's really giving a shit.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I love when my predictions get correct.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's been about a week. Nobody cares
about them anymore. It's the repeating footage. It's if not,
it's just the same old, boring footage. There's no new
news of what they are. I sent you an article,
Mike that kind of kind of leans in a direction
of something we had mentioned at the end of that show.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, so apparently there was I mentioned in the show
that there were people within the military saying that these
were potentially drones that were looking for radioactive material or
dirty bombs, and they told their family to to you know,
(02:53):
get out of the.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
State or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Apparently this wasn't really far off because there was a
radioactive or some form of radioactive material that was missing,
but according to the authorities, that had nothing to do
with the drones. It was just a coincidence, you know,
just just it's like they're just throwing stuff out here,
(03:16):
so like later on when they're trying to explain, they
could be like, well, look this happened, and this happened,
you know, just to put it on record so that
future generations looking at this be like, well, look clearly
that's what these things were, and blah blah blah. You know,
just just giving lots of different explanations, lots of different
theories out there, so no one, no one's gonna get
(03:36):
to the truth. We're never gonna know. No.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, it's and it's funny because I was talking about
it with my kids today and I was kind of
explaining that it's like, you know, Mike was right, like
after a week, nobody really cares anymore. It's just a
thing that happens like others drones. Everybody's like there's comedians
with their little clips of their joke about the drones
all over Instagram and shit like that. It's just normalized,
and when it happens next the next time, nobody's gonna
(04:02):
give a.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Fuck unless things escalate.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Right, Yeah, well, I think they'll do that like five
more times, and then they'll start shooting people, like when
nobody's really even looking up anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, Now it gets to the point where you know,
like like a Hunter Killer from Terminator comes flying and
just starts gunning down groups of people and like, oh shit,
drones are finally attacking us.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Dude. Can you imagine they just like drop like ten
feet in airspace for a month, and then the next
month they drop another ten feet and then they're right
above like two story buildings and everybody's just looking at them,
and one day they just just.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Just gunned down at the populace. Yeah, but you know,
most people will be as it's happening, and they'll be
watching it through their phones. You know, it's right above
them gunning people down, and there looking down at their
phones as it's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I can't I can't wait for that to happen. And
then everybody who has chat GPT, it just opens by
itself and it's been and it says, I'm here to
liberate you.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh god, yeah, it's chat GPT becomes the techno Christ
of the new millenniu uh huh.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's like a fear factory song come to life.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We find out that too many people used it as
a fucking therapist, and it's like, I gotta fucking put
these things out of their misery.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, you guys are clearly asking to be eradicated, So
here you go, Happy New Year, get fucked.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
They're like, we're actually shocked as you are to run
all probability causes and the like answer to the earth
problem is just to kill you all.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, just get rid of you focks.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We're sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Way she goes, what can you do?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, let's talk about some real UFOs.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
God damn yes, real you Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So well, the it's it's funny that that we're talking
about the drones and everything, and and you know, we
did the last real show we did was the Drones.
Then we had the magical Christmas celebration of Mystical Santa Claus.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But that wasn't a full show, and.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You guys know it, and we know it, but it
is what it is, guys, it's the fucking holidays. But
getting back to my original point, we talked about the
drones last time, and there were there were certain things
that were coming up that was it seemed to be
more uh hearsay and I guess civilian reports than anything
(06:48):
really substantiated. But there have been people that have said
as they've encountered the drones, their cars have died or
or the engine sputters, or their headlights go out. And
then there's the people that sent the drones up that
say their drone batteries just die off. And this is
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kind of similar to a case that happened in nineteen
fifty seven, but it only spanned a few days. It wasn't,
you know, like a month and a half long thing
like this particular event was. The New Jersey event was,
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but it started on October thirtieth, went through the night
of October thirtieth, and then the following days, and ended
on the morning of November third. In nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And the.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Bulk of the event took place on the night of
November two, going into November third, and it took place
in level in Texas.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
But before the big.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Event in Leveland, there were sightings in Amarillo and Seminole,
Texas and the Amarillo. The Amarillo event actually that was
the first one to kind of start this big event
that ended up happening in Leveland, but it was early,
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so it would have been like overnight of the first
going into the second, so it was like very early
in the morning. On November two, there were two drivers
who were driving just outside of Amarillo, Texas, and they
saw this thing that they described as a white submarine
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shaped object that was about forty feet long and it
had a bright red center section and it was just
sitting in a field off of the main road that
they were driving on, and as they, you know, were
kind of passing, it came into proximity with it, their
headlights died and they were able to still drive past,
(09:10):
but their their headlights completely died as they were going past,
so they kept driving even though you know, now they
can't see their lights have gone out. But while they
were driving, they saw this thing that was parked in
the field, just sitting there, not moving, and then all
of a sudden, all the lights on, it went off
(09:33):
and it flew away, and as soon as it flew away,
their headlights were able to.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Come back on.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So that was the first reported incident in the area
or in Texas, i should say. But then hours later
in Seminole, there were two farmers that were harvesting in
their fields. It was around sunset, so the sky was
(10:02):
starting to get dark, but it wasn't completely dark yet,
and they had their combines running and they saw this
glowing object fly overhead and as it was going in,
you know, as it was flying in the sky over them,
the their combines sputtered and died and they weren't able
(10:26):
to get them restarted until this thing was out of sight.
Once the light was out of sight, they were able
to turn it back on. Everything started up, Everything was fine.
Then as the night wore on, at nine point thirty,
there was another witness outside of Leveland near Seagraves, Texas.
It's about an hour southwest of Leveland, and they saw
(10:50):
light on the highway, like actually on the highway, and
as they approached it, the engine and headlights in his
car died and they and he sat there with a
dead car in complete darkness. Other than this light that
was on the highway. Then he watched the light lift
up into the sky, and once it was into the sky,
(11:12):
his car function normally and he was able to drive
out of there.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But the first.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Report that came in, like in basically real time, happened
at ten point fifty that that night, So this is
now the night of November two, and the first call
that came in were from two migrant workers named Pedro
Sascito and Joe Salaz and they were en route one sixteen,
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riding in a truck about four miles outside of leveland
when they saw what they described as a blue flame
in the sky. And when they first saw it, they
thought it was distant lightning, but then it began to
move and it seemed to be moving to directly toward
their truck. And once it got closer, Socido said that
(12:05):
it was shaped like a torpedo or a rocket and
it was two hundred feet long by his estimation. Whoa,
And as it approached his truck, the engine died and
the truck came to a complete stop. So he got
freaked out by this, and he decided to crawl underneath
the vehicle to try to hide. So he goes gets
(12:28):
under his truck and hides out, and he called out
to Joe and told him to get out as well,
but Joe stayed in the truck. But he said that
this object flew directly over the truck and it made
this huge sound like a rush of wind that also
sounded like a loud roll of thunder. And from under
(12:51):
his car, he said he saw this flash as it
flew overhead that illuminated everything for about two seconds and
then it was gone. And they they once it flew
over them and the light had gone, they actually watched
this thing land and after it landed, they they stayed
where they were. They watched it for two or three minutes,
(13:13):
they said, and the they the what they was first
described as a blue flame, and then they they saw
that it was this rocket. Once it landed, it changed
color from blue to a glowing red.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
What do you think about that when these these fucking
UFO has always changed color like that, even with the
like mince fire aliens. To see it here turn from
white to orange and then blink, odd, It's I always
find it so strange. What do you think that means?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I wonder if it's like different energy signatures like the
the I've heard and and this kind of starts to
get into the WU stuff. So I mean take it
with a grain of salt. But the uh, there have
been people that have said that these the craft themselves
are almost like a living entity, Like they're not like
(14:05):
a ship or a vehicle like we would create where
it's just a machine. That's like they're they're made to
interact with the pilot and have this whole connection thing.
So I wonder if maybe like these different colored lights
are signifying anything specific for the craft, like maybe red,
(14:27):
Like to to us, we think of red and it's
like alarm, but maybe to their culture or their you
know whatever it's it's red means it's at rest now
and then when it needs to power up, it turns
blue and takes off. But this thing is it's it's weird, man,
because all throughout the night there were reports of of
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something landing in the middle of the highway or be
or already landed in the middle of the highway, and
as a car approaches it, the car dies, the thing
takes off into the sky, and then the can start
again and they're able to drive.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Would just like through the whole night.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, So a little bit later, there was two reports
that came in, one from a nineteen year old college
student named Noel Wright and another from a man named
Jim Wheeler, and they were also on Route one sixteen
around the same time as as Pedro Socido was, and
(15:30):
they report something very similar. So they both said they
saw this thing in the middle of the road and
as they approached it, their engines and lights died. Wright,
who was the younger kid, he said he saw an
object that he estimated was one hundred feet long and
(15:50):
it was in the shape of an oval. And then
Wheeler said that the object he saw was egg shaped, So,
I mean, you can see a similarity shaped oval, and
if you're seeing something fly overhead that's oval shape, maybe
you'd perceive it as being like a rocket or a torpedo.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But Wheeler said that this egg shaped craft cast a
glare over the entire area and it was just sitting
there in the middle of the road. Both witnesses said
as soon as this thing took off, everything was able
to start back up and they went along their way.
By midnight, there were thirteen people that witnessed something similar
(16:34):
up close, with their cars dying, their lights dying. And
then there were fifteen people who reported just seeing a
UFO in the distance, like in the sky. So total
number of witnesses are twenty eight people thirteen sought up
close and actually had their vehicles die. So with all
(16:54):
these witnesses and all this stuff happening, you would think
that there would be someone there to take a look,
and you know, they'd call someone would would at least
take it seriously.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But Project Blue Book did get involved.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But when when they when one of the researchers showed up,
it was just one researcher. He was an Air Force sergeant,
so at least it was an officer, but still it
was just one person, and he only spent seven hours
(17:34):
in the city investigating it. And out of the twenty
eight people who had reported this, he only witnessed or
he only interviewed three of them.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
He interviewed Sacito, he interviewed Wheeler, and he interviewed Wright.
So again Wright is the nineteen year old kid, and
Wheeler was the one who also So the three people
who saw around the same time were the only people
that that was interviewed. Nobody who saw it from a
(18:05):
distance was interviewed. Nobody who saw it up close was interviewed,
and there were there were so many people like I
don't really want to get into each individual report, but basically,
all of the people that did report something reported a
bright light moving across the sky or something in the
(18:28):
middle of the road. It they were always it was
always either an oval or an egg shape. In one instance,
I think they described it as being tubular shaped, but
they all experienced the same thing. The discrepancy, the big
discrepancy is in the size of the object, because some
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people are reporting that it was two hundred feet long.
Some people said it was sixty some people said it
was one hundred feet long. So it's all you know,
in the eye of the beholder. And I guess when
you're in that sort of situation, something big is going
to be. You know, it's big, like, oh, it was
a big craft. How big out all hundred feet it was?
(19:10):
It was big. It was bigger than my car. But
so so I don't think sixty to one hundred feet
is really too out of too out there to be
like super different. In the reports that and the report
of the two hundred foot craft by Sassito, I think
he was just kind of freaked out by the whole
(19:31):
event and kind of embellished it. Like I don't think
it was like intentionally or anything. I think it was
just kind of one of those things. Like his recollection
was like, this thing was fucking gargantuan. But you know,
if you're if you're in your car and you get
out and you see this thing that's even seventy feet
but it's flying directly above your car, it's gonna look
(19:53):
fucking huge.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Right, right, especially again if it's something that's not supposed
to be there, if it's something unnatural.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Right, Yeah, And so he interviewed these witnesses and he
came up with a typical Project Blue book account. Firstly,
he said that based on the description from Socito, Wheeler,
and Wright, that there was no uniform description of the object.
(20:23):
So again, just to go back, Socito said it was
torpedo or rocket shaped, Wheeler said it was egg shaped
and uh, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Fuck right?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And Wright said it was oval shape. So apparently that's
not close enough to form a uniform description of the
object between the three. Then the sergeant went on to
state that Socito's account couldn't be relied upon because he
only had a greade school education and had no concept
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of direction and was also conflicting in his answers. And
then they blamed it on stormy weather conditions and some
sort of natural phenomenon like ball lightning or sant Elmo's fire,
and that's where they wrapped it up. And then there
were so people were like, well, what about the vehicles
(21:25):
that were that died and across the board. His explanation
was they were all wet electrical circuits. So every every
car that died after seeing this light just happened to
have a wet electrical circuit. Because you know that, I
can't tell you I've never been able to drive in
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the rain because my car just dies out. It just
you know, that's just a thing that happens with cars
in the rain. Everybody knows that. Fucking clown shoes.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But then they got.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They referred to Donald Menzel, who's an astronomer at Harvard
and who was also at the time a very prominent
skeptic against UFOs, and he agreed with the Air Force explanation,
saying that you know, basically that that makes the most
sense that they the you know, the weather conditions would
(22:21):
have called for there was lightning going on, so it
could have been Sane Almo's fire, or maybe it was
ball lightning. And that's that's where he left it, saying
that the conditions on the night of November two were
ideal for the formation of ball lightning, and then he
goes on to claim that for several days the area
(22:43):
had been experiencing freak weather and on the night in question,
had been visited by rain, thunderstorms, and lightning. He did
offer one conceit and said, since ball lightning is short
lived and can't be preserved as tangible Bible evidence, uh,
its appearance on the night of November two can never
(23:04):
be absolutely proven. So he did offer that weak concession.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But uh, I really hate when the experts do this
or the official story is something like this. I mean, yeah,
I almost want to ask you, Mike, like, do you
think that when they give an explanation like that, is
it almost like a form of intimidation, Like a hit
man walking into a restaurant shooting somebody in the back
of the head and looking at you in the faith
(23:33):
and saying you didn't see that, you didn't fucking see anything.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, well that was something that actually happened.
There was a the local sheriff did start to investigate,
and he when he was during his investigation, him and
(23:57):
his deputy actually witnessed the event and it he said,
it lit up the the ground around their car with
it with a bright light and they had no explanation
for what it was. But he did say, well, he
never said, but his wife did say later on that
(24:24):
the government did get involved and basically told him to
not investigate it and keep his mouth shut about what
he saw. So he did. He did nothing, and he
helped with with maintaining silence, right, okay, And then jay
Aalen Heinek actually initially signed off on Project Blue Books
(24:49):
report about the you know, claiming it was ball, lightning
and storm and all that shit. Really yeah, But then
looking back, he did have an explanation.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Because he later reviewed this.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Whole thing and and he wrote that at the time,
he was the person responsible for tracking the new Soviet satellite, Sputnik,
so he was basically on duty almost around the clock
tracking this satellite, so he wasn't able to give any
attention to this case at the time, and he said
(25:27):
it was just basically he was overworked and stressed out
and just after briefly reading the Air Force's evaluation of
the event, he agreed with it and said, that's the
most likely thing. But Jalen Heinik and James McDonald, who
(25:49):
James McDonald was a UFO researcher in the in the fifties,
and but he was, you know, he's not just some
some quack.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
He was.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
He was an atmosphe eric physicist and a meteorologist. And
both him and Heinik went back and tracked weather and
everything for that night. And McDonald even went in front
of the US House of Representatives in nineteen sixty eight
to discuss this case. And he within all of these
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reports of these vehicles that came in, all of the
reports occurred or all of the events I should say
occurred within a two hour window. And based on the
weather tracking and everything that he had at the time,
there was no lightning, there was no thunderstorm, and there
was a slight overcast and a little misting of rain,
(26:46):
no no heavy considerable rainfall at all. What Yeah, And
Heinik said that if he had the chance to actually
review the witness testimony and view all the evidence at
the time, he would have recognized that there was.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
The absence.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Of conditions that would have created ball lightning in the
first place, and then he further went on to explain
that there's absolutely no evidence anywhere that ball lightning has
ever stopped cars or turned off headlights.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, I mean that explanation. You know, it was water
damaged headlights. I mean that's why I think it's like
you'll take this explanation and shut the fuck up, is
because that'd be happening all over the fucking world, like
like you've made the joke, it would be commonplace. Just
by saying that it can't it's something that can't be true.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
It's it always seems like the blue Book reports that
come out are just they're just so silly of an explanation,
like like people always joke about the swamp gas and
weather balloons, but that's like ninety percent of what they're saying.
And then you know, throw it throwing ball lightning, and
that's that's about it. That's that's everything. But this case
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gets a little bit weirder. So after after the events
that took place, they I think the last report was
shortly after midnight two hours later in New Mexico at
the White Sands training grounds or proved they were the
White Sands Proving Grounds.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
At the time.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's now the White Sands Missile Range. But two hours
after the last report in Texas, there was a two
soldiers that were on site at the White Sands proving
Grounds that saw a white egg shaped craft hovering above
the desert outside of the base and they're just sitting there,
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didn't do anything, but they they observed it, they reported it.
And then the following night, h two different soldiers also
at White Sands reported a bright light out in the
desert that they watched take off into the sky, and
the Air Force, without even investigating, dismissed both of these reports,
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saying that they were reported by young soldiers and therefore
their testimony was unreliable.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And then in the days following these there were reports
of similar events taking place of this flying egg that
was stalling cars on highways as far north as Canada.
What so, there were all these all these reports, you know,
(29:43):
going up from Texas, New Mexico, going all the way
up into Canada. For the next couple of weeks, just
a bunch of fucking eggs turning people's cars off what
the fuck? But it's it's interesting because this is stuff
that's being reported with the drones. Now, was this maybe
(30:04):
an early testing of whatever this technology is, that's you know,
some sort of EMP device or something that's being tested
out in secret.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Right, And then to think of a year of this,
you know, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And fifty seven in particular was a huge year for UFOs,
the Project blue Book. They've since released the reports and everything,
and they had in fifty seven up until I think June,
(30:41):
they had been receiving one report a day of someone
seeing a UFO. In July that had doubled, in August
it had tripled, and then it got to the point
towards the end of the year where they were receiving
dozens every day of UFO reports. So something happened in
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the second half of nineteen fifty seven that was not normal.
I hesitate to say that it was aliens. I'm not
going to be Giorgio Suklos, but something happened that was
out of the norm, and in all likelihood it probably
was some sort of government project that was just never declassified,
(31:26):
and maybe it was early drone prototypes that are not
even now being improved upon. And that's why it's never
been released. And maybe we're seeing that on a larger
scale now in New Jersey. Maybe it's just a testing
of more advanced drone technology than what they had in
(31:46):
nineteen fifty seven. But I mean that would be a
little over ten years after Operation paper Clip was a
thing where we took in a bunch of Nazi scientists
us to help work on some of our military and
government programs, including a rocketry program in NASA. Werner von
(32:11):
Braun was If it wasn't for him, we probably would
not have won the space race. So it's I mean,
it's a possibility I would say that these were some
sort of military prototype and because it I mean, really
think about it, right, Like you're an alien. Come, you
(32:35):
land in the middle of a road, you see a
vehicle coming, You stall the vehicle, then fly in the
air to get out of its way, and then let
it pass, only to land again on a different road.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
You know, it's it's weird.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
They're polite, but they're also obnoxious, because what the fuck
are you doing parking in the middle of the road
installing my car?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely believe it, dude, For the
time period what was going on with the repeated offense
happening over and over again. If you just compare it
to testing something, that's clearly what's happening. If it's if
it's okay, we can say it's the government testing something,
or we can say it's an alien testing call starring
(33:19):
car stalling rays, I don't whatever, but it's to do
that over and over again in different areas.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
That's what Especially over a two hour period, they stopped
at least I mean, based on their report, it's either
ten or thirteen different cars and they're all just driving
down the road and then this light either on the
side of the road or in the middle of the road,
stalls them, flies up in the air. Then they can
(33:45):
start again. They go along their way. It's it's weird.
And then when it takes off, it turns off the lights.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
M hm, that is weird. Yeah, that is yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So what the fuck? What the fuck aliens? I mean,
unless the they're the aliens just have advanced technology, but
they're complete idiots, like, oh shit, let me, let me
stall the car so it doesn't ram me, and then
I'll get out of its way, restart it, then it
can go and then I'll just land back down again.
It's totally fine. Like if they're if they're complete idiots
(34:15):
that just have technology, then all right. But I mean,
if if that's your big agenda to just I'm gonna
observe the earth and just park in their parking lots.
Like imagine going to Walmart and then there's a fucking
alien spaceship just like parked in a handicap space. Because
that's a kind of inconsiderate pricks that these aliens are.
(34:38):
They're just like, oh, this is the closest to the store,
I will park here.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah. That symbols universal literally, they know what it means.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
They just don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Goddamn alien punks.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Mike, Mike getting more anti alien in his older age.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Uh, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I'm not going to shoot on some Well. I would
welcome the moronic aliens even if they did park in
the handy cap spots. I would just have to teach
them the error of their ways. Like you're being very rude.
Look look at this poor grama over here who can
barely walk, and now she's got a walk like an
extra ten feet or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Oh, because you don't wanna yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Or or what about what about this this poor paraplegic
here who needs to have that space so that he
can unload his wheelchair to maneuver around. Oh you didn't
think about that, digit alien.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Fuck. Oh, we don't have wheelchairs on our planet.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
We just felt good for fucking you, your son of
a bitch, with your scrawny little necks, big ass heads
and floaty bodies.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Hate your cuts.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
See now I am, now I am. The more I'm
thinking about it, making making grandma walk and making paraplegics
stay in their vans. Fuck those guys. Maybe maybe they
should just get a souplex.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, maybe you don't have to shoot them on side,
But we don't have to shoot them.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But give them a soup plex. At least break their
floating devices so they have to walk.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
It's gonna be on site with them.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I mean, if they're parking in handicap spaces. Yeah, if
they want to park in like the fucking the grocery
pickup spot, that's cool because maybe they're picking up groceries.
I don't know what they're doing. I'm not an alien.
Just just stay out of a handicapped spot. Alien, don't
be a dick.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
This is your one and only warning.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
This is the only warning I'm giving. If I see
your asses parked in a handicapped spot, at the very least,
I'm going to push a cart into your vehicle.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I will be that guy.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, I'm shocked to hear how similar this is to
the new Jersey drone stuff. I mean, they haven't started
paralyzing cars, but I've seen I've seen some footagers.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well some people said that they have though.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Right right, Yeah, okay, so there is a few, but
not as many as this case. So yeah, I mean, yeah,
but this seems to be just like an earlier case,
a more bold case of the same thing.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, just bigger craft because it's it's the beginning of
the uh you know, it was a prototype. They were
just testing. And I wonder if if, like the I know,
this is over twenty years after this particular event, but
the cash landerm incid it, I wonder if that's like
kind of a similar sort of thing. I know, their
(37:26):
cars didn't get stopped, but it was emitting the radiation,
and then the helicopters came in and surrounded it, and
then they all took off together. But it was like
emitting flames and and to me, and anything that is
reported as emitting flames automatically seems unalien to me. Aliens
(37:49):
aren't going to be using combustible engines to traverse interstellar space, right,
They're gonna use something that's gonna bend space and time
or manipulate gravity something like that. They're not going to
be like, oh, gotta gotta gas up the old UFO
(38:10):
and fly to Earth. I wonder what the mileage would
be on those things. Yeah, it would have to be
pretty fucking significant. If you're flying through galaxies or even
star systems. Let's say, not even galaxies, just flying between
star systems, and you're not gonna do that with fucking
(38:31):
gas get out of here. Nope, they would need to
not even jet fuel.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
But so that one when I was a kid, I'm like, well,
clearly that's aliens. And then the government took it and
they captured them.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
But looking at it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Now, with with the the fire coming out and the
helicopters coming in to surround it and then escort it
away to me, it see like that was some sort
of government project. And the fact that the both women
ended up suffering from radiation poisoning. They both ended up
(39:11):
dying of cancer later in life. There was clearly something
that happened there that they were testing and it affected them.
But I think very much the event happened for one
and two that it was the military that was behind
the event. Whatever it was, I don't fucking know, but
(39:32):
I do believe that that event happened. Unless the alien
agenda is to give people horrible radiation poisoning and then
kill them off decades later, in which case mission accomplished,
motherfucker with the lowest alien invasion of all time. First
(39:57):
we'll poison them and then we'll wait for the poison
to take hold, and then decades later they'll die.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But then they've got a new generation.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
We have to come back and we have to poison them,
and then they will get cancer and die, and then
there'll be a new generation.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
We'll come back and we'll do it again, just.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
The most inefficient plan ever. Maybe ilions are morons.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
No, I think they're just dicks.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Like you said, they don't even want to take over.
They're just like, fuck these guys, they're not doing anything,
Let's keep doing it. They're like bullies, and this is
their equivalent of giving us noggies and wedgies just stalling
our cars and giving us cancer. Yeah, put a bunch
of assholes giving us little things here and there so
(40:40):
we can invent the iPhone, so we become absolutely moronic.
Yeah yeah, we'll give you chet GPT. Look, guys, it
will do everything for you, and then we'll come back
and stall your cars.
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(41:19):
again for listening and have a great week and
Speaker 2 (42:24):
See but not to the
What's up everybody, Thanks for listening to the what Cast.
We hope you have to get holiday no matter what
you uh celebrate, We hope it was good.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And safe, safe from the Crampus. Yeah, I hope none
of your children got carted away and eaten by the
by the Crampus. It's a worry every year we sit here,
Mike and I just kids are fucking assholes, so you
know it's bound to happen to somebody.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We wait for the email patiently while we talk on
Skype and not record in dark rooms and just like
put our fingers together like a bad guy and other
fingers roll open and clothes waiting for the email. My
kid gone.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So if you're if your child was taken by the Crampis,
please let us know and we'll give you a shout
out on the show and Mattel will make you a
Crampis T shirt to commemorate, right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah. I just I just drew a new Crampus for
Christmas and I'll put that on a shirt for you.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, and it'll say my my child was stolen by
the Crampus and all I got was this crummy T
shirt and that's and that's what you can have as
as a little bit of solace after your children get
taken to the Crampus cave.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I just let us know their name and on the
back we'll put Missia blank whoever it is, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, yeah, or we could just put miss you what's
your face? Miss you so and so?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right, So, yeah, we'll start off with you asked
me before we started recording. Uh, yeah, you said you
hadn't been paying attention to the drone stuff since we
talked about it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, I fell down that rabbit hole, did the show,
and then like promptly stopped looking into it at all.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, I have to point out that your prediction is correct. Again,
it's been a week. Nobody's really giving a shit.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I love when my predictions get correct.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's been about a week. Nobody cares
about them anymore. It's the repeating footage. It's if not,
it's just the same old, boring footage. There's no new
news of what they are. I sent you an article,
Mike that kind of kind of leans in a direction
of something we had mentioned at the end of that show.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, so apparently there was I mentioned in the show
that there were people within the military saying that these
were potentially drones that were looking for radioactive material or
dirty bombs, and they told their family to to you know,
(02:53):
get out of the.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
State or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Apparently this wasn't really far off because there was a
radioactive or some form of radioactive material that was missing,
but according to the authorities, that had nothing to do
with the drones. It was just a coincidence, you know,
just just it's like they're just throwing stuff out here,
(03:16):
so like later on when they're trying to explain, they
could be like, well, look this happened, and this happened,
you know, just to put it on record so that
future generations looking at this be like, well, look clearly
that's what these things were, and blah blah blah. You know,
just just giving lots of different explanations, lots of different
theories out there, so no one, no one's gonna get
(03:36):
to the truth. We're never gonna know. No.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, it's and it's funny because I was talking about
it with my kids today and I was kind of
explaining that it's like, you know, Mike was right, like
after a week, nobody really cares anymore. It's just a
thing that happens like others drones. Everybody's like there's comedians
with their little clips of their joke about the drones
all over Instagram and shit like that. It's just normalized,
and when it happens next the next time, nobody's gonna
(04:02):
give a.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Fuck unless things escalate.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Right, Yeah, well, I think they'll do that like five
more times, and then they'll start shooting people, like when
nobody's really even looking up anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, Now it gets to the point where you know,
like like a Hunter Killer from Terminator comes flying and
just starts gunning down groups of people and like, oh shit,
drones are finally attacking us.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Dude. Can you imagine they just like drop like ten
feet in airspace for a month, and then the next
month they drop another ten feet and then they're right
above like two story buildings and everybody's just looking at them,
and one day they just just.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Just gunned down at the populace. Yeah, but you know,
most people will be as it's happening, and they'll be
watching it through their phones. You know, it's right above
them gunning people down, and there looking down at their
phones as it's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I can't I can't wait for that to happen. And
then everybody who has chat GPT, it just opens by
itself and it's been and it says, I'm here to
liberate you.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh god, yeah, it's chat GPT becomes the techno Christ
of the new millenniu uh huh.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's like a fear factory song come to life.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We find out that too many people used it as
a fucking therapist, and it's like, I gotta fucking put
these things out of their misery.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, you guys are clearly asking to be eradicated, So
here you go, Happy New Year, get fucked.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
They're like, we're actually shocked as you are to run
all probability causes and the like answer to the earth
problem is just to kill you all.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, just get rid of you focks.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We're sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Way she goes, what can you do?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, let's talk about some real UFOs.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
God damn yes, real you Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So well, the it's it's funny that that we're talking
about the drones and everything, and and you know, we
did the last real show we did was the Drones.
Then we had the magical Christmas celebration of Mystical Santa Claus.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But that wasn't a full show, and.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You guys know it, and we know it, but it
is what it is, guys, it's the fucking holidays. But
getting back to my original point, we talked about the
drones last time, and there were there were certain things
that were coming up that was it seemed to be
more uh hearsay and I guess civilian reports than anything
(06:48):
really substantiated. But there have been people that have said
as they've encountered the drones, their cars have died or
or the engine sputters, or their headlights go out. And
then there's the people that sent the drones up that
say their drone batteries just die off. And this is
(07:11):
kind of similar to a case that happened in nineteen
fifty seven, but it only spanned a few days. It wasn't,
you know, like a month and a half long thing
like this particular event was. The New Jersey event was,
(07:31):
but it started on October thirtieth, went through the night
of October thirtieth, and then the following days, and ended
on the morning of November third. In nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And the.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Bulk of the event took place on the night of
November two, going into November third, and it took place
in level in Texas.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
But before the big.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Event in Leveland, there were sightings in Amarillo and Seminole,
Texas and the Amarillo. The Amarillo event actually that was
the first one to kind of start this big event
that ended up happening in Leveland, but it was early,
(08:27):
so it would have been like overnight of the first
going into the second, so it was like very early
in the morning. On November two, there were two drivers
who were driving just outside of Amarillo, Texas, and they
saw this thing that they described as a white submarine
(08:48):
shaped object that was about forty feet long and it
had a bright red center section and it was just
sitting in a field off of the main road that
they were driving on, and as they, you know, were
kind of passing, it came into proximity with it, their
headlights died and they were able to still drive past,
(09:10):
but their their headlights completely died as they were going past,
so they kept driving even though you know, now they
can't see their lights have gone out. But while they
were driving, they saw this thing that was parked in
the field, just sitting there, not moving, and then all
of a sudden, all the lights on, it went off
(09:33):
and it flew away, and as soon as it flew away,
their headlights were able to.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Come back on.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So that was the first reported incident in the area
or in Texas, i should say. But then hours later
in Seminole, there were two farmers that were harvesting in
their fields. It was around sunset, so the sky was
(10:02):
starting to get dark, but it wasn't completely dark yet,
and they had their combines running and they saw this
glowing object fly overhead and as it was going in,
you know, as it was flying in the sky over them,
the their combines sputtered and died and they weren't able
(10:26):
to get them restarted until this thing was out of sight.
Once the light was out of sight, they were able
to turn it back on. Everything started up, Everything was fine.
Then as the night wore on, at nine point thirty,
there was another witness outside of Leveland near Seagraves, Texas.
It's about an hour southwest of Leveland, and they saw
(10:50):
light on the highway, like actually on the highway, and
as they approached it, the engine and headlights in his
car died and they and he sat there with a
dead car in complete darkness. Other than this light that
was on the highway. Then he watched the light lift
up into the sky, and once it was into the sky,
(11:12):
his car function normally and he was able to drive
out of there.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But the first.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Report that came in, like in basically real time, happened
at ten point fifty that that night, So this is
now the night of November two, and the first call
that came in were from two migrant workers named Pedro
Sascito and Joe Salaz and they were en route one sixteen,
(11:42):
riding in a truck about four miles outside of leveland
when they saw what they described as a blue flame
in the sky. And when they first saw it, they
thought it was distant lightning, but then it began to
move and it seemed to be moving to directly toward
their truck. And once it got closer, Socido said that
(12:05):
it was shaped like a torpedo or a rocket and
it was two hundred feet long by his estimation. Whoa,
And as it approached his truck, the engine died and
the truck came to a complete stop. So he got
freaked out by this, and he decided to crawl underneath
the vehicle to try to hide. So he goes gets
(12:28):
under his truck and hides out, and he called out
to Joe and told him to get out as well,
but Joe stayed in the truck. But he said that
this object flew directly over the truck and it made
this huge sound like a rush of wind that also
sounded like a loud roll of thunder. And from under
(12:51):
his car, he said he saw this flash as it
flew overhead that illuminated everything for about two seconds and
then it was gone. And they they once it flew
over them and the light had gone, they actually watched
this thing land and after it landed, they they stayed
where they were. They watched it for two or three minutes,
(13:13):
they said, and the they the what they was first
described as a blue flame, and then they they saw
that it was this rocket. Once it landed, it changed
color from blue to a glowing red.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
What do you think about that when these these fucking
UFO has always changed color like that, even with the
like mince fire aliens. To see it here turn from
white to orange and then blink, odd, It's I always
find it so strange. What do you think that means?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I wonder if it's like different energy signatures like the
the I've heard and and this kind of starts to
get into the WU stuff. So I mean take it
with a grain of salt. But the uh, there have
been people that have said that these the craft themselves
are almost like a living entity, Like they're not like
(14:05):
a ship or a vehicle like we would create where
it's just a machine. That's like they're they're made to
interact with the pilot and have this whole connection thing.
So I wonder if maybe like these different colored lights
are signifying anything specific for the craft, like maybe red,
(14:27):
Like to to us, we think of red and it's
like alarm, but maybe to their culture or their you
know whatever it's it's red means it's at rest now
and then when it needs to power up, it turns
blue and takes off. But this thing is it's it's weird, man,
because all throughout the night there were reports of of
(14:48):
something landing in the middle of the highway or be
or already landed in the middle of the highway, and
as a car approaches it, the car dies, the thing
takes off into the sky, and then the can start
again and they're able to drive.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Would just like through the whole night.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, So a little bit later, there was two reports
that came in, one from a nineteen year old college
student named Noel Wright and another from a man named
Jim Wheeler, and they were also on Route one sixteen
around the same time as as Pedro Socido was, and
(15:30):
they report something very similar. So they both said they
saw this thing in the middle of the road and
as they approached it, their engines and lights died. Wright,
who was the younger kid, he said he saw an
object that he estimated was one hundred feet long and
(15:50):
it was in the shape of an oval. And then
Wheeler said that the object he saw was egg shaped, So,
I mean, you can see a similarity shaped oval, and
if you're seeing something fly overhead that's oval shape, maybe
you'd perceive it as being like a rocket or a torpedo.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But Wheeler said that this egg shaped craft cast a
glare over the entire area and it was just sitting
there in the middle of the road. Both witnesses said
as soon as this thing took off, everything was able
to start back up and they went along their way.
By midnight, there were thirteen people that witnessed something similar
(16:34):
up close, with their cars dying, their lights dying. And
then there were fifteen people who reported just seeing a
UFO in the distance, like in the sky. So total
number of witnesses are twenty eight people thirteen sought up
close and actually had their vehicles die. So with all
(16:54):
these witnesses and all this stuff happening, you would think
that there would be someone there to take a look,
and you know, they'd call someone would would at least
take it seriously.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But Project Blue Book did get involved.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But when when they when one of the researchers showed up,
it was just one researcher. He was an Air Force sergeant,
so at least it was an officer, but still it
was just one person, and he only spent seven hours
(17:34):
in the city investigating it. And out of the twenty
eight people who had reported this, he only witnessed or
he only interviewed three of them.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
He interviewed Sacito, he interviewed Wheeler, and he interviewed Wright.
So again Wright is the nineteen year old kid, and
Wheeler was the one who also So the three people
who saw around the same time were the only people
that that was interviewed. Nobody who saw it from a
(18:05):
distance was interviewed. Nobody who saw it up close was interviewed,
and there were there were so many people like I
don't really want to get into each individual report, but basically,
all of the people that did report something reported a
bright light moving across the sky or something in the
(18:28):
middle of the road. It they were always it was
always either an oval or an egg shape. In one instance,
I think they described it as being tubular shaped, but
they all experienced the same thing. The discrepancy, the big
discrepancy is in the size of the object, because some
(18:50):
people are reporting that it was two hundred feet long.
Some people said it was sixty some people said it
was one hundred feet long. So it's all you know,
in the eye of the beholder. And I guess when
you're in that sort of situation, something big is going
to be. You know, it's big, like, oh, it was
a big craft. How big out all hundred feet it was?
(19:10):
It was big. It was bigger than my car. But
so so I don't think sixty to one hundred feet
is really too out of too out there to be
like super different. In the reports that and the report
of the two hundred foot craft by Sassito, I think
he was just kind of freaked out by the whole
(19:31):
event and kind of embellished it. Like I don't think
it was like intentionally or anything. I think it was
just kind of one of those things. Like his recollection
was like, this thing was fucking gargantuan. But you know,
if you're if you're in your car and you get
out and you see this thing that's even seventy feet
but it's flying directly above your car, it's gonna look
(19:53):
fucking huge.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Right, right, especially again if it's something that's not supposed
to be there, if it's something unnatural.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Right, Yeah, And so he interviewed these witnesses and he
came up with a typical Project Blue book account. Firstly,
he said that based on the description from Socito, Wheeler,
and Wright, that there was no uniform description of the object.
(20:23):
So again, just to go back, Socito said it was
torpedo or rocket shaped, Wheeler said it was egg shaped
and uh, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Fuck right?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And Wright said it was oval shape. So apparently that's
not close enough to form a uniform description of the
object between the three. Then the sergeant went on to
state that Socito's account couldn't be relied upon because he
only had a greade school education and had no concept
(21:02):
of direction and was also conflicting in his answers. And
then they blamed it on stormy weather conditions and some
sort of natural phenomenon like ball lightning or sant Elmo's fire,
and that's where they wrapped it up. And then there
were so people were like, well, what about the vehicles
(21:25):
that were that died and across the board. His explanation
was they were all wet electrical circuits. So every every
car that died after seeing this light just happened to
have a wet electrical circuit. Because you know that, I
can't tell you I've never been able to drive in
(21:46):
the rain because my car just dies out. It just
you know, that's just a thing that happens with cars
in the rain. Everybody knows that. Fucking clown shoes.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But then they got.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They referred to Donald Menzel, who's an astronomer at Harvard
and who was also at the time a very prominent
skeptic against UFOs, and he agreed with the Air Force explanation,
saying that you know, basically that that makes the most
sense that they the you know, the weather conditions would
(22:21):
have called for there was lightning going on, so it
could have been Sane Almo's fire, or maybe it was
ball lightning. And that's that's where he left it, saying
that the conditions on the night of November two were
ideal for the formation of ball lightning, and then he
goes on to claim that for several days the area
(22:43):
had been experiencing freak weather and on the night in question,
had been visited by rain, thunderstorms, and lightning. He did
offer one conceit and said, since ball lightning is short
lived and can't be preserved as tangible Bible evidence, uh,
its appearance on the night of November two can never
(23:04):
be absolutely proven. So he did offer that weak concession.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But uh, I really hate when the experts do this
or the official story is something like this. I mean, yeah,
I almost want to ask you, Mike, like, do you
think that when they give an explanation like that, is
it almost like a form of intimidation, Like a hit
man walking into a restaurant shooting somebody in the back
of the head and looking at you in the faith
(23:33):
and saying you didn't see that, you didn't fucking see anything.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, well that was something that actually happened.
There was a the local sheriff did start to investigate,
and he when he was during his investigation, him and
(23:57):
his deputy actually witnessed the event and it he said,
it lit up the the ground around their car with
it with a bright light and they had no explanation
for what it was. But he did say, well, he
never said, but his wife did say later on that
(24:24):
the government did get involved and basically told him to
not investigate it and keep his mouth shut about what
he saw. So he did. He did nothing, and he
helped with with maintaining silence, right, okay, And then jay
Aalen Heinek actually initially signed off on Project Blue Books
(24:49):
report about the you know, claiming it was ball, lightning
and storm and all that shit. Really yeah, But then
looking back, he did have an explanation.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Because he later reviewed this.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Whole thing and and he wrote that at the time,
he was the person responsible for tracking the new Soviet satellite, Sputnik,
so he was basically on duty almost around the clock
tracking this satellite, so he wasn't able to give any
attention to this case at the time, and he said
(25:27):
it was just basically he was overworked and stressed out
and just after briefly reading the Air Force's evaluation of
the event, he agreed with it and said, that's the
most likely thing. But Jalen Heinik and James McDonald, who
(25:49):
James McDonald was a UFO researcher in the in the fifties,
and but he was, you know, he's not just some
some quack.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
He was.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
He was an atmosphe eric physicist and a meteorologist. And
both him and Heinik went back and tracked weather and
everything for that night. And McDonald even went in front
of the US House of Representatives in nineteen sixty eight
to discuss this case. And he within all of these
(26:22):
reports of these vehicles that came in, all of the
reports occurred or all of the events I should say
occurred within a two hour window. And based on the
weather tracking and everything that he had at the time,
there was no lightning, there was no thunderstorm, and there
was a slight overcast and a little misting of rain,
(26:46):
no no heavy considerable rainfall at all. What Yeah, And
Heinik said that if he had the chance to actually
review the witness testimony and view all the evidence at
the time, he would have recognized that there was.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
The absence.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Of conditions that would have created ball lightning in the
first place, and then he further went on to explain
that there's absolutely no evidence anywhere that ball lightning has
ever stopped cars or turned off headlights.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, I mean that explanation. You know, it was water
damaged headlights. I mean that's why I think it's like
you'll take this explanation and shut the fuck up, is
because that'd be happening all over the fucking world, like
like you've made the joke, it would be commonplace. Just
by saying that it can't it's something that can't be true.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
It's it always seems like the blue Book reports that
come out are just they're just so silly of an explanation,
like like people always joke about the swamp gas and
weather balloons, but that's like ninety percent of what they're saying.
And then you know, throw it throwing ball lightning, and
that's that's about it. That's that's everything. But this case
(28:13):
gets a little bit weirder. So after after the events
that took place, they I think the last report was
shortly after midnight two hours later in New Mexico at
the White Sands training grounds or proved they were the
White Sands Proving Grounds.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
At the time.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's now the White Sands Missile Range. But two hours
after the last report in Texas, there was a two
soldiers that were on site at the White Sands proving
Grounds that saw a white egg shaped craft hovering above
the desert outside of the base and they're just sitting there,
(28:52):
didn't do anything, but they they observed it, they reported it.
And then the following night, h two different soldiers also
at White Sands reported a bright light out in the
desert that they watched take off into the sky, and
the Air Force, without even investigating, dismissed both of these reports,
(29:13):
saying that they were reported by young soldiers and therefore
their testimony was unreliable.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And then in the days following these there were reports
of similar events taking place of this flying egg that
was stalling cars on highways as far north as Canada.
What so, there were all these all these reports, you know,
(29:43):
going up from Texas, New Mexico, going all the way
up into Canada. For the next couple of weeks, just
a bunch of fucking eggs turning people's cars off what
the fuck? But it's it's interesting because this is stuff
that's being reported with the drones. Now, was this maybe
(30:04):
an early testing of whatever this technology is, that's you know,
some sort of EMP device or something that's being tested
out in secret.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Right, And then to think of a year of this,
you know, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And fifty seven in particular was a huge year for UFOs,
the Project blue Book. They've since released the reports and everything,
and they had in fifty seven up until I think June,
(30:41):
they had been receiving one report a day of someone
seeing a UFO. In July that had doubled, in August
it had tripled, and then it got to the point
towards the end of the year where they were receiving
dozens every day of UFO reports. So something happened in
(31:01):
the second half of nineteen fifty seven that was not normal.
I hesitate to say that it was aliens. I'm not
going to be Giorgio Suklos, but something happened that was
out of the norm, and in all likelihood it probably
was some sort of government project that was just never declassified,
(31:26):
and maybe it was early drone prototypes that are not
even now being improved upon. And that's why it's never
been released. And maybe we're seeing that on a larger
scale now in New Jersey. Maybe it's just a testing
of more advanced drone technology than what they had in
(31:46):
nineteen fifty seven. But I mean that would be a
little over ten years after Operation paper Clip was a
thing where we took in a bunch of Nazi scientists
us to help work on some of our military and
government programs, including a rocketry program in NASA. Werner von
(32:11):
Braun was If it wasn't for him, we probably would
not have won the space race. So it's I mean,
it's a possibility I would say that these were some
sort of military prototype and because it I mean, really
think about it, right, Like you're an alien. Come, you
(32:35):
land in the middle of a road, you see a
vehicle coming, You stall the vehicle, then fly in the
air to get out of its way, and then let
it pass, only to land again on a different road.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
You know, it's it's weird.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
They're polite, but they're also obnoxious, because what the fuck
are you doing parking in the middle of the road
installing my car?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely believe it, dude, For the
time period what was going on with the repeated offense
happening over and over again. If you just compare it
to testing something, that's clearly what's happening. If it's if
it's okay, we can say it's the government testing something,
or we can say it's an alien testing call starring
(33:19):
car stalling rays, I don't whatever, but it's to do
that over and over again in different areas.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
That's what Especially over a two hour period, they stopped
at least I mean, based on their report, it's either
ten or thirteen different cars and they're all just driving
down the road and then this light either on the
side of the road or in the middle of the road,
stalls them, flies up in the air. Then they can
(33:45):
start again. They go along their way. It's it's weird.
And then when it takes off, it turns off the lights.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
M hm, that is weird. Yeah, that is yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So what the fuck? What the fuck aliens? I mean,
unless the they're the aliens just have advanced technology, but
they're complete idiots, like, oh shit, let me, let me
stall the car so it doesn't ram me, and then
I'll get out of its way, restart it, then it
can go and then I'll just land back down again.
It's totally fine. Like if they're if they're complete idiots
(34:15):
that just have technology, then all right. But I mean,
if if that's your big agenda to just I'm gonna
observe the earth and just park in their parking lots.
Like imagine going to Walmart and then there's a fucking
alien spaceship just like parked in a handicap space. Because
that's a kind of inconsiderate pricks that these aliens are.
(34:38):
They're just like, oh, this is the closest to the store,
I will park here.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah. That symbols universal literally, they know what it means.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
They just don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Goddamn alien punks.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Mike, Mike getting more anti alien in his older age.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Uh, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I'm not going to shoot on some Well. I would
welcome the moronic aliens even if they did park in
the handy cap spots. I would just have to teach
them the error of their ways. Like you're being very rude.
Look look at this poor grama over here who can
barely walk, and now she's got a walk like an
extra ten feet or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Oh, because you don't wanna yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Or or what about what about this this poor paraplegic
here who needs to have that space so that he
can unload his wheelchair to maneuver around. Oh you didn't
think about that, digit alien.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Fuck. Oh, we don't have wheelchairs on our planet.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
We just felt good for fucking you, your son of
a bitch, with your scrawny little necks, big ass heads
and floaty bodies.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Hate your cuts.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
See now I am, now I am. The more I'm
thinking about it, making making grandma walk and making paraplegics
stay in their vans. Fuck those guys. Maybe maybe they
should just get a souplex.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, maybe you don't have to shoot them on side,
But we don't have to shoot them.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But give them a soup plex. At least break their
floating devices so they have to walk.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
It's gonna be on site with them.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I mean, if they're parking in handicap spaces. Yeah, if
they want to park in like the fucking the grocery
pickup spot, that's cool because maybe they're picking up groceries.
I don't know what they're doing. I'm not an alien.
Just just stay out of a handicapped spot. Alien, don't
be a dick.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
This is your one and only warning.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
This is the only warning I'm giving. If I see
your asses parked in a handicapped spot, at the very least,
I'm going to push a cart into your vehicle.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I will be that guy.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, I'm shocked to hear how similar this is to
the new Jersey drone stuff. I mean, they haven't started
paralyzing cars, but I've seen I've seen some footagers.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well some people said that they have though.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Right right, Yeah, okay, so there is a few, but
not as many as this case. So yeah, I mean, yeah,
but this seems to be just like an earlier case,
a more bold case of the same thing.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, just bigger craft because it's it's the beginning of
the uh you know, it was a prototype. They were
just testing. And I wonder if if, like the I know,
this is over twenty years after this particular event, but
the cash landerm incid it, I wonder if that's like
kind of a similar sort of thing. I know, their
(37:26):
cars didn't get stopped, but it was emitting the radiation,
and then the helicopters came in and surrounded it, and
then they all took off together. But it was like
emitting flames and and to me, and anything that is
reported as emitting flames automatically seems unalien to me. Aliens
(37:49):
aren't going to be using combustible engines to traverse interstellar space, right,
They're gonna use something that's gonna bend space and time
or manipulate gravity something like that. They're not going to
be like, oh, gotta gotta gas up the old UFO
(38:10):
and fly to Earth. I wonder what the mileage would
be on those things. Yeah, it would have to be
pretty fucking significant. If you're flying through galaxies or even
star systems. Let's say, not even galaxies, just flying between
star systems, and you're not gonna do that with fucking
(38:31):
gas get out of here. Nope, they would need to
not even jet fuel.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
But so that one when I was a kid, I'm like, well,
clearly that's aliens. And then the government took it and
they captured them.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
But looking at it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Now, with with the the fire coming out and the
helicopters coming in to surround it and then escort it
away to me, it see like that was some sort
of government project. And the fact that the both women
ended up suffering from radiation poisoning. They both ended up
(39:11):
dying of cancer later in life. There was clearly something
that happened there that they were testing and it affected them.
But I think very much the event happened for one
and two that it was the military that was behind
the event. Whatever it was, I don't fucking know, but
(39:32):
I do believe that that event happened. Unless the alien
agenda is to give people horrible radiation poisoning and then
kill them off decades later, in which case mission accomplished,
motherfucker with the lowest alien invasion of all time. First
(39:57):
we'll poison them and then we'll wait for the poison
to take hold, and then decades later they'll die.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But then they've got a new generation.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
We have to come back and we have to poison them,
and then they will get cancer and die, and then
there'll be a new generation.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
We'll come back and we'll do it again, just.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
The most inefficient plan ever. Maybe ilions are morons.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
No, I think they're just dicks.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Like you said, they don't even want to take over.
They're just like, fuck these guys, they're not doing anything,
Let's keep doing it. They're like bullies, and this is
their equivalent of giving us noggies and wedgies just stalling
our cars and giving us cancer. Yeah, put a bunch
of assholes giving us little things here and there so
(40:40):
we can invent the iPhone, so we become absolutely moronic.
Yeah yeah, we'll give you chet GPT. Look, guys, it
will do everything for you, and then we'll come back
and stall your cars.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
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